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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey

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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in

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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 1: scripted as well. All right, so let's break up Claudia

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Speaker 1: Dusted to see how they're gonna respond to this.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Hi, First of all, you forgot the biggest hit

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Speaker 2: of them all with none other than the Goat Candy,

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Speaker 2: Birds on the hook, Legs to the motherfucking Moon for.

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Speaker 3: Retret, and you already know. So you know we're gonna

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Speaker 3: be in front row hit rolling legs to the moon.

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Speaker 2: That's right, let's go, let's go, and we're going to

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Speaker 2: get outfits from press.

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Speaker 3: Yep, Carlos.

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Speaker 4: That's right, Bruce Carlos doing is he showing those lights?

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Speaker 4: Because I feel like he's got white shorts on today.

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Speaker 4: I feel like Carls has no draws on.

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Speaker 2: They called him shorts move something. Remember that song by

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Speaker 2: the Two Lives Move.

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Speaker 4: Shorts.

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Speaker 5: That's all.

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Speaker 4: Let them plain. I'm short saying that's got planned after

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Speaker 4: the show. That's what that kind of I know those

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Speaker 4: kind of.

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Speaker 5: I before the show, I'm jealous.

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Speaker 2: They had pall doing that ship. Did you see it?

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Speaker 2: They had paid the bill. Yeah, you gotta go online.

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Speaker 2: I think it's on her social media. It was so funny.

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Speaker 3: I love y'all.

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Speaker 4: Hey, y'all, he felt it look good. I went and

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Speaker 4: my dad had a cook out this weekend. I want

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Speaker 4: to coast. And then my mom texted me when I

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Speaker 4: was on the East Coast and she's like, today it

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Speaker 4: would be a good day to go to the beach.

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Speaker 4: She didn't know that my dad's because I didn't tell her.

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Speaker 4: So I was like, well, what you doing tomorrow? And

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Speaker 4: I just like surprised her and went to Providence for

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Speaker 4: six hours and then got it.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I just less a good daughter.

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Speaker 4: Oh no. And since last week and we last for Shirlly,

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Speaker 4: I had to put her down like the next two

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Speaker 4: days later, so on Wednesday, So thank you for the flowers,

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Speaker 4: thank you for the well wishes, all the messages. Thank

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Speaker 4: you so much. I feel like she said bye, so

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Speaker 4: I'm in a good place. They said, my dad's fine.

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Speaker 1: Girl. I've been caught that you are beautiful, so you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you have you no great jeans on both

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Speaker 1: bands seemed.

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Speaker 4: I first got that he didn't have his teeth in.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I text my brother. I was like, yo,

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Speaker 4: I wasn't ready for this, like it was giving crack.

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Speaker 4: And then he went paid him in and I was

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Speaker 4: like it made such a difference, Like it made a

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Speaker 4: huge difference. So anyways, you know, because the whole yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, it makes the big difference. So anyways, put

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Speaker 4: him he did. He look like he's a great drama.

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Speaker 4: He was killing it to go to my page, Like

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Speaker 4: what you guys know, I have Tourette's. Okay, if Amanda

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Speaker 4: Fields can self diagnosed and say she has she's autistic,

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Speaker 4: then I can self diagnosedurette.

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Speaker 2: I just say Chris Cross made a whole song about it.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm just playing, let me chill out jump.

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Speaker 4: What was he saying? I was kind of trying to

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Speaker 4: catch him on some clips. Is he is he working

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Speaker 4: out for the Rashida show, the pre show. We're gonna

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Speaker 4: do the pre show.

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Speaker 5: So don't talk to think that's a good listen. And

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Speaker 5: I'm not being funny. I'm not ver funny.

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Speaker 1: I am okay. So I want to have a real conversation,

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Speaker 1: as you all know. As you all know, when it

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Speaker 1: comes to Rashida, there is this trend that's happening on

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Speaker 1: social media, especially TikTok, of people calling their friends they Mama,

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Speaker 1: they auntie's, they bestie about surprising them with Rashida tickets and.

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Speaker 5: Listen.

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Speaker 1: I know that sometimes we all can't get our own bubble.

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Speaker 1: I am a huge fan of Fema rappers, huge, I

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Speaker 1: love all Fema rappers right, So I love Rashidah's music.

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Speaker 1: Even before I met her, I used to play Rashidah

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Speaker 1: all the time. So when people started to play on

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Speaker 1: her discography, I'm like, okay, this is like fun shade.

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Speaker 1: But then it happened so much that I was like,

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Speaker 1: why are people dissing Rashida? So we're all around the

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Speaker 1: same age, and am I the only one that grew

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Speaker 1: up listening to Rashida of theerground music?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 3: I remember when my bubble gum was really popular.

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Speaker 2: I remember it. Shout out to my friend Quinton. Quinn

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Speaker 2: used to blast the shit out of that song all

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Speaker 2: the time, my bubble gum. So I was familiar with

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Speaker 2: Rashida's music for a long time. That's why she ended

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Speaker 2: up landing a spot on Love and Hip Hop Atlanta

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Speaker 2: because people knew who she was, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So it's funny.

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Speaker 2: It is hilarious because it is an unlikely concert, right,

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Speaker 2: It's not one when I used to Rashida performing, So

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Speaker 2: people were surprised, I think, when they were offered the

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Speaker 2: opportunity to attend one of her concerts. And that is

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Speaker 2: funny to see people's reactions to that. I think as

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Speaker 2: long as people leave it in like the comedic space,

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Speaker 2: it's funny. But once you start trying to say Rashida

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Speaker 2: ain't shit, you know what I mean, that is when

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Speaker 2: it becomes mean spirited. But it's funny, you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. Somebody call you or ask you to go

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Speaker 2: to a concert that you've never seen happen before. That

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Speaker 2: is funny, you know what I mean. It just I

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Speaker 2: think she was a good sport about it too, because

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Speaker 2: then she posts that she posted a comment laughing at

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Speaker 2: the joke, so she oh, she don't give a fuck.

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Speaker 3: They got money, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, personally, I don't know much about her music. I

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Speaker 4: know her more of a personality and love and hip hop.

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Speaker 4: I got the hosts of Reunion a couple of times,

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Speaker 4: and I've worked with her.

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Speaker 1: I liked with you.

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Speaker 4: I saw her at Candy's birthday party a last month

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Speaker 4: Atlanta at a mc K. Apparently everybody goes to Okay.

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Speaker 4: I love that spot in Atlanta. Great food, great lofster bite, amazing,

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Speaker 4: amazing you. Every time I'm there, you will see me there.

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Speaker 5: And you'll see a lot of married men there too.

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Speaker 4: I don't. I don't. They don't register in my eyes

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Speaker 4: ever since I had that eye surgery.

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 1: Mind surgery.

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Speaker 4: It's a filter. I don't see married man. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: oh yeah, I would never fit on a housewives. But anyways,

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Speaker 4: uh so, what was I saying?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 4: I saw Rashida there and I was like I went

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Speaker 4: up to her. I was like, yo, I like you.

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Speaker 4: I really love your personality and you look beautiful every

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Speaker 4: time I see you. And she's always out here working.

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Speaker 4: I did through the trend at first. It's funny. I

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Speaker 4: think it's kind of getting a little mean now though,

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Speaker 4: Like it feels like the pylon with everyone like being

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Speaker 4: anti Rashida, and I don't know what she did to

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Speaker 4: deserve that, Like I keep it light and cute, like

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Speaker 4: Dustin was saying, it's one thing, but to take it

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Speaker 4: a step further and trash as women like she's not

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Speaker 4: with over a billion with streams. She made money, she

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Speaker 4: had a business that's doing well. The girl woman has

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Speaker 4: kept herself relevant for many years, you know what I mean? Like,

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Speaker 4: let's you know, Like I don't know. I feel like

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Speaker 4: sometimes people on social can get a little carried away. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 4: what they driving, what's in their account and what marks

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Speaker 4: have they made on the culture. So I don't know

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Speaker 4: much more music, I know I make want to marry me.

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Speaker 4: I know that song of cod one song loud of

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Speaker 4: Tell at the pre show, you make this happen, Okay.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna make it, lift it so okay.

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Speaker 1: So that's in Claudia, mark my words, because I'm saying

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Speaker 1: it publicly live for the thousand people. If I'm able

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Speaker 1: to secure Monding, I live for all of us to

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Speaker 1: do the pre show, to host it, and to interview

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Speaker 1: carly Rid, to interview a lot of the celebrities right

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Speaker 1: before Rashida hops on. I want us to have backstage

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Speaker 1: access to Rashida's concert so that we can get hurt

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Speaker 1: minutes before she gets on stage, and we could also

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Speaker 1: do the post interview if I'm able to secure that

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Speaker 1: dust in a Claudia with y'all com.

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Speaker 2: Not only will I come, I'll lead the backstage prayer

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Speaker 2: before she goes out on stage. We're gonna hold hands,

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Speaker 2: goddamn it. So yes, we're coming.

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Speaker 4: I think it'll be fun. I'll be there.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 4: I like going to Atlanta, so iur in twenty minute

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Speaker 4: flight for me. Let's do it when we find you

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Speaker 4: this now, when's the show?

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Speaker 5: I will call Kirk myself.

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Speaker 1: And listen, right job, y'all think i'll make the best

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Speaker 1: to a joke, I'm actually not.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to call Kirk myself and I'm going to

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Speaker 5: pitch this to him, and we're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna see what happens. Because again, I believe in giving

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Speaker 1: people their flowers while they are alive, and I also

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Speaker 1: believe in seizing a moment. So I want all of

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Speaker 1: us to be there because I think it'll be great

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Speaker 1: for the three of us to show, right, she does

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Speaker 1: some love. But I think I think it's such a

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Speaker 1: culture shifting movement that I think is dope for the

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Speaker 1: three of us to be a part of something so iconic.

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Speaker 4: Culture You're doing too much. Now, I gotta like stop.

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Speaker 1: Cultureship.

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Speaker 4: Wait now you're gaslight in the audience. Now I have

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Speaker 4: to call you. I don't know, you're doing too much.

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Speaker 4: If cut, it's gonna be fun, gorgeous. There's a whole

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Speaker 4: bunch of people in the comments. I don't know what

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Speaker 4: you want but to read here. There's a lot of

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Speaker 4: energy right now. I'll leave it alone until we get

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Speaker 4: more information. But Cultureship, you're doing wait you you be

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Speaker 4: gassing you you no.

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Speaker 5: No, no no no no no no no no.

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Speaker 4: Not get it together. Dick out and I thing any time.

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Speaker 1: You're trending for three weeks on TikTok, that's a ship

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Speaker 1: in the culture. That's all I.

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Speaker 4: Meant to Carlos, we love you, We calum be lyon. Sometimes.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: Here's the bridge, right, here's the bridge. Rashitah needs to

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Speaker 2: have a concert. She needs to throw a concert right

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Speaker 2: now for real, now that people are talking about this,

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Speaker 2: Rashida needs to start.

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Speaker 3: She needs to plan a performance.

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Speaker 2: I know she's on the bill for like the I

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Speaker 2: think she's performing at one music fest in Atlanta. She's

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Speaker 2: a part of a down South tribute performance or something

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Speaker 2: at one music fest coming up in Atlanta. But she

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Speaker 2: needs to throw a concert while the getting is good,

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Speaker 2: while people are talking about this and doing all that.

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Speaker 2: Rashida totally needs to throw a concert in Atlanta, invite

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Speaker 2: some other people to perform as well, you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, and have a concert. She needs to make

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Speaker 2: it a thing now that it's a joke and into

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Speaker 2: some money. She needs to do what Candy did with

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Speaker 2: that Dungeon tour. How Port was talking shit about Candy

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Speaker 2: having a sex dungeon and she turned that shit into

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Speaker 2: a dungeon tour and made all that money doing it.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what Rashida needs to do with this, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I wish I had a piano.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back and forth, Dustin, come on, you take

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Speaker 4: Okay, bags her husband and girl, her career is over.

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Speaker 3: All over the world.

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Speaker 2: Then it's a beata lady, bad lady.

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Speaker 3: She's a prune. Get her husband out of the room.

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Speaker 3: You gotta go, you gotta go, you gotta get.

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Speaker 4: Because like I like the boat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she't.

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Speaker 4: Of course, you know said some things about Came a

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Speaker 4: This is like road Runner and I was it the coyote. Yeah, did.

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Speaker 1: Nothing?

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Speaker 5: You are so.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why. I can't help it. Arries love

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Speaker 4: what did we do?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 4: There's two here and a Libra sandwich in between us,

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was a funny ass moment back in the

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Speaker 4: You want to take it from the top.

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Speaker 3: One, Yeah, can you laughed?

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Speaker 5: That's the ass show.

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Speaker 3: Rashida got bags.

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Speaker 4: Her career is over her.

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Speaker 3: Husband or girl, Claudia.

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Speaker 1: See that's why, Claudia, go get your luggage. Claudia, you

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Speaker 3: Baby bye.

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Speaker 4: My second earlier and I said it right. I think

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Speaker 1: That's okay, No, no, no, that's exactly why. And listen, listen.

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Speaker 1: They are so best to hear it. Go dust it, Claudia,

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Speaker 3: Knew them both. You love k Michelle and Rachida. You

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Speaker 7: And I will say this, I think too if if if, hey,

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Speaker 1: I will say this, that is a type of comedy

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Speaker 5: They even laughed at it and get.

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Speaker 5: And in my opinion, in my opinion, I think they're

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Speaker 2: And that was before she got on stage where she

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Speaker 2: now you know what I'm saying, That was before she

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Speaker 5: But I feel like if all.

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Speaker 4: Works out, do you think they'll ever like think, after

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Speaker 4: all this kind of dietown, do you think that Rashida

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 4: Do you think? It's one of those.

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Speaker 2: It's I'm sorry, go ahead, loose, go ahead, No, I was.

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Speaker 1: Gonna say, and that was okay. I think I think

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Speaker 1: what Ca Michelle is requesting is an apology to her face.

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Speaker 1: In case you guys don't know, there were some allegations

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Speaker 5: This is legally vetted.

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Speaker 1: There were allegations that were set on the show from

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Speaker 1: But Rashida questioned whether or not it happened to her

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Speaker 5: Listen when when that scene.

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Speaker 1: What people don't know is this, oh my god, exclusive

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 1: What people don't know is this, when ky Michelle and

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Speaker 1: Rashida started loving hip hop Atlanta, they filmed that scene

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I want to apology from key Michelle because she cuts

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Speaker 5: Well, damn, I wanted kid.

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Speaker 8: I don't have money.

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Speaker 1: And based on the rain drops, again, I don't know

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Speaker 5: Apologize to ca Michelle, that she's she never knows all right,

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Speaker 5: So so that's that. But listen, I hope that so

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry. I have to rats.

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Speaker 4: Remember me and a man of disabilities. Someone said they

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Speaker 3: Remember that that'll never happen.

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Speaker 4: I know because I was out one time when I

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Speaker 4: Sorry in New York. But yeah, so there's some pathnic

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Speaker 8: I would love.

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Speaker 3: That dusting in the comments.

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Speaker 4: Salon where falcon you guys and the truth.

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Speaker 8: On that note.

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Speaker 5: All right, so that was Saggy the.

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Speaker 4: Gun license, you know, saying that's so many things. I know,

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Speaker 4: they just show called the conversations that I think you

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Speaker 4: something think about whose weak would you want to be? Scott?

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Speaker 4: That's never ended me? Who do you think? Sut Kenny Natasha?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ty Bardiya see that Scott video she released. I

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Speaker 2: guess she got some music coming out when she was

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Speaker 5: Tweeted, That's how I saw it. That's just so messy.

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Speaker 2: She had she she can rolled out of a car

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Speaker 2: You hear the chain breaking. It was the most ridiculous

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Speaker 4: Oh, Kenya and Kim Fields, come on now.

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Speaker 3: They gotta be standing up. There no chairs, They got

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Speaker 1: You know what's so funny about that is Kenya did

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Speaker 1: apologize to Kim Fields, but not in person.

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Speaker 5: She didn't go on your show, Cocktails.

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Speaker 4: She apologize just to be able to say its face

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Speaker 4: because sometimes.

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Speaker 8: I was not open.

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Speaker 4: I was healing in this this era, we need healing.

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Speaker 4: I'm ready for some healing.

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Speaker 1: I am too. I am too.

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Speaker 5: I am too, I am too, I am I know

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Speaker 5: you fucking line.

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Speaker 1: Oh I may be available for that.

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 1: So listen. That was our We have a new segment,

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Speaker 1: rain Drop, So listen rain Drops. We have a segment

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Speaker 1: our new game that well, we will be playing weekly

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Speaker 1: because a month and alive. I do want us to

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Speaker 1: get into the hot topics of things happen in the

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Speaker 1: reality world. So right, before we breaking our guests, I

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Speaker 1: would like for us to get ready to take a shot.

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Speaker 5: I don't drink, so I got my green juice.

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Speaker 4: This next, my god, I have she's already acting up.

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Speaker 4: I haven't drinking. I haven't drank.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay you all ready wait?

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Speaker 4: What are we drinking to?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 5: Shot our new segment called Shot Topics.

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Speaker 1: You ready?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Teers one, two three, love.

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Speaker 5: Y'all love? Okay.

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Speaker 1: So I would like to break in our first guest

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Speaker 1: of the evening as we get ready.

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Speaker 5: To talk about a hot talk bic before we get into.

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Speaker 1: The latest episode of Love and Marriage, Huntspille, rain drops, ladies, jentlemate,

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Speaker 1: Days and Days give it up for the Golden Child himself.

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Speaker 5: Maurice Jefferson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love doing.

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Speaker 6: I love doing.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Maurice?

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Speaker 8: What's going on? Dustin?

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 8: Carlos?

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Speaker 1: Hey, Claude, I'm good.

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Speaker 8: I'm good.

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Speaker 4: I think were you listening to us acting up?

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Speaker 1: Are you ready to? Like?

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Speaker 4: You already see what we right now?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 8: Yes, everybody took this shot. Dustin took some honey. So

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Speaker 8: you know my going on?

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Speaker 3: Well? You and you from yack town.

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Speaker 2: So I felt like it was only appropriate, you know,

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Speaker 2: to be on a yak.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: We go down?

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Speaker 1: Do you have a drinks?

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Speaker 8: Do I have a drink?

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Speaker 6: I can? I can?

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Speaker 8: I can arrange one.

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Speaker 4: You should get a drink to people.

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Speaker 5: That is that Jay you're summoning.

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Speaker 4: Oh good, that's why you feel away.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 8: Listen, listen, I get my annual from Carlos. I did

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Speaker 8: an annual baptism from from love marriage.

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Speaker 5: The social media streets.

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Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show. No, it's funny because

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Speaker 1: at the lamp Reunia listen, I listen. I'm very blessed

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Speaker 1: to do what I do. I love hosting Hunter Rejulias

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Speaker 1: because the cast Claudia A Dusted be sitting already for Washa, Datigants, Yes,

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Speaker 1: and Maurice and I plus plus is why Kenny had

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Speaker 1: some of the best exchange last It was funny. It

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Speaker 1: was funny. It was funny. So No, Maurice is a

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Speaker 1: good sport. So before we get into the latest episode,

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Speaker 1: I love and matche hants bell I wanted to bring

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Speaker 1: in Maurice, Claudia and Dusta to join us on our

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Speaker 1: shot topic of the evening, and that is from my

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Speaker 1: friend Keisha Kiyor Davis. So Keisha Kiyor Davis recently, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: went viral because she did speak about her husband, Gucci Man,

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Speaker 1: and how the only thing that Gucci Man has to

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Speaker 1: worry about is taking a shower, because she takes care.

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Speaker 5: Of everything else.

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Speaker 1: She buys, the food, she cooks, the food, she buys

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Speaker 1: his clothes, she helps him with everything. And she said

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Speaker 1: that she would be miserable if she did not cater

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Speaker 1: to her husband in this way because she wants her

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Speaker 1: husband to need her and not need another woman, another person,

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Speaker 1: and that's what she finds to be the happiness in

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Speaker 1: her marriage. So that's our hot topic of the evening,

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Speaker 1: starting with Claudia. Okay, only female in the crew.

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Speaker 5: Hey, look, Cam, what's your thoughts on that?

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Speaker 4: Claudia, Well, because the way he provides so much financially

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Speaker 4: where she doesn't have that stress on her. And then

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Speaker 4: of course she returned the favor when he was in

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Speaker 4: prison and flipped that money and she showed that she's

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Speaker 4: a good stewardess and guardian for his assets. She'd go

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Speaker 4: blow it on herself. I think they deserve each other

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Speaker 4: and I'm totally for this. I think though, you know,

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Speaker 4: that's the way it should be. Like he provides a

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Speaker 4: soft life for her financially, so she doesn't have that

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Speaker 4: burden of stress, so she can make provide the vibes

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Speaker 4: at pen he has no worry. She can feed him,

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Speaker 4: she can cater to him, and I think most women

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Speaker 4: will properly take care of and that's one thing off

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Speaker 4: their plate. What else are you supposed to do? You

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Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like if you don't have to

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Speaker 4: be out there hustling, I think that. I think that's

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Speaker 4: a beautiful thing. I'm a little traditional. If you paint

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Speaker 4: all the bills, your food, all that stuff. I'm doing

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Speaker 4: all that because that's kind of like what my job

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Speaker 4: is now right now. These fifty to fifty dudes, you

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Speaker 4: can't yahhing like that, like because you're both working and

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Speaker 4: you both should be contributing to the house. But that's

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Speaker 4: the benefits and what we ask for when we want

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Speaker 4: a man to lead and to provide, and then we

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Speaker 4: can be in our soft error and give you those things.

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Speaker 4: I love it, and I think it makes her feel

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Speaker 4: like that's what her value is. And the other girls

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Speaker 4: want to come try to throw some ass at him,

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Speaker 4: some kouchie that's cute, but he knows with her, he

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Speaker 4: gets all that a badass ship. She's beautiful and she

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Speaker 4: loves and it actually really enjoys doing all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: And because he takes care of us so well like that,

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Speaker 4: I guarantee you their sex is still very passionate because

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Speaker 4: she still respects him. So I'm with it. I'm yes, I.

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Speaker 1: Love it okay, and also does so I'm able to

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Speaker 1: add to it. She makes her own money too, like

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Speaker 1: she has her own businesses, not my life when out,

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Speaker 1: she has her own businesses, and she is somebody that

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Speaker 1: still wants to take care of her man. That's one

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Speaker 1: of your thoughts on that she hasn't.

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Speaker 4: Half to work. She's she works. She isn't like he's

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Speaker 4: not like you better have this mortgage.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so, and you know right, yeah, So

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Speaker 2: number one, I think the most important piece here is

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Speaker 2: that this is what Keisha has said that Keisha wants

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Speaker 2: to do. This is not a request nor a requirement

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Speaker 2: from Gucci Maine, nor is it a rule in their household.

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Speaker 2: This is what she expressed that she wants to do,

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Speaker 2: and it makes her happy and fulfilled to do so,

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Speaker 2: and to that, I say kudos number two. We're not

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Speaker 2: gonna sit on this podcast and act like niggas aren't filthy.

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Speaker 2: There's a what's It's a poet, so you listen. You

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Speaker 2: want something done, right, damn it, you do it yourself.

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Speaker 2: She probably don't want to smell his butt.

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Speaker 3: There's a guy what's that? What's that podcast? So it's

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Speaker 3: a light.

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Speaker 2: Skinned niggah chant ain't. I can't remember his name, but

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Speaker 2: he literally was saying he was saying he don't wash

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Speaker 2: his ass, and he looks like he don't wash his ass.

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Speaker 2: And Keisha probably don't want to deal with none of

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Speaker 2: that ship, so she don't. She ain't seeing no doodos

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Speaker 2: things in no under here. She's lifting up balls, getting

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Speaker 2: back there, making sure everything is clean. So they probably

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Speaker 2: do have a great sex life, and I admire that.

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Speaker 2: So I think Keisha or you got it, figure it out,

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Speaker 2: and it looked like it's working for her, So there

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Speaker 2: you have it.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that's it. If talking about Claudia, we

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Speaker 5: all aware.

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Speaker 1: He talked about chatting Crowder and the podcast is called

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Speaker 1: The Pivot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you can be a pivot.

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Speaker 2: What you mean you got your grown self on that

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Speaker 2: podcast Mike and said, you're don't wash your ass. I

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Speaker 2: was so disgusted by that, and Keisha probably was too,

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Speaker 2: and she said, not in my house. She got that

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Speaker 2: rag and got up in there. Okay, so that I

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Speaker 2: ain't mad at her. Go ahead, Keisha.

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Speaker 4: Henny has entered the chat.

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Speaker 1: So Marie as the only married person on this chat,

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Speaker 1: I would love to get your thought on what Keisha

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Speaker 1: Kior said. She said just to refresh her memory mares

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Speaker 1: that Listen, She's a working woman.

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Speaker 5: She makes her own money. She earns the bacon too.

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Speaker 1: However, she did say she would be miserable if she

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Speaker 1: wasn't able to cater and take care of her husband

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Speaker 1: because she loves to do it. She said, she only

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Speaker 1: wants him to worry about getting in the shower and

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Speaker 1: she takes care of the rest as.

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Speaker 5: A married man.

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Speaker 1: Is that something that you know all married men want

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day.

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Speaker 8: I think all married men want to partner, you know,

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Speaker 8: and how that you know comes about and how that

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Speaker 8: looks different for each person. However, the Bible does talk

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Speaker 8: about a Proverbs thirty one woman, and seems like that's

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Speaker 8: what she's doing. She can make the bread, she can

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Speaker 8: go and get her own, and she takes care of them.

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Speaker 8: So I think Gucci got and if you look at Gucci,

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Speaker 8: Gucci now looks different than Gucci did forward.

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Speaker 6: He's a whole.

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Speaker 8: Different dude right now. And I think that you know

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Speaker 8: that connection and that trust in the fact that he

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Speaker 8: has the right partner on his team, you know what,

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Speaker 8: that can make you look different too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Claudia, I would love to get your thoughts

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Speaker 1: with before I do for the rain drops for Dustin

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Speaker 1: as well. I would like for you guys to know

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Speaker 1: that the Proverbs thirty one woman is described in a

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Speaker 1: poetic depiction as a virtuous woman, not a literal historical figure.

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Speaker 1: She is presented as an ideal embodying qualities like diligence, wisdom, generosity,

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Speaker 1: and devotion to God, particularly within the context of her

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Speaker 1: home and her community. Claudia, Oh, is there the question

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Speaker 1: are you are you a Props thirty one woman?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Sure, then.

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Speaker 8: I don't really read the Bible.

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Speaker 4: I lived my life as a good person, Okay. I

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Speaker 4: feel like when I lived in Atlanta, there was a

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Speaker 4: lot of people I could quote the Bible and they

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Speaker 4: were so trifling. They were saying all the things. They

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Speaker 4: had a great memory to quote versus in the Bible.

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Speaker 4: But they were some of the biggest whores, skanks, liars,

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Speaker 4: DL double life line to everyone in their circle, credit cards, scams,

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Speaker 4: epp all, God and shit. So I don't do any

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Speaker 4: of that stuff, but I know I treat people right

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Speaker 4: and I do believe in somewhat traditional roles. I don't

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Speaker 4: think you should be a demand from a guy like

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Speaker 4: this woman caveman shit. I think the way they have

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Speaker 4: to set up is he provided that, you know, financially,

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Speaker 4: and then she liked to step into that feminine role.

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Speaker 4: And then she's also like, you know what, I still

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Speaker 4: have time. Let me go flourish my business, be a

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Speaker 4: billionaire over here on my own, and they think I

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Speaker 4: would be. It works some and like like Murray said,

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Speaker 4: Gucci lost that fat stomach he had that was like

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Speaker 4: that the body that he had before. It looks like

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Speaker 4: a cortisol body, like when you hold stress eating poorly.

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Speaker 4: It looks like the woman once he got her, look

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Speaker 4: the woman in his life got him like slim down.

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Speaker 4: He looks like he's glowing teeth so much. So remember

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Speaker 4: there was a conspiracy theory going around that Gucci Man

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Speaker 4: was closing. But when you have phone nuts in your

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Speaker 4: life making you like like happy, and you glow and

662
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 4: you just look like you can tell when someone's happy,

663
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So it's worked for that.

664
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, I'm all those things in the Bible.

665
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 4: I'm all those things. I'm all those things, the fantastic things.

666
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 5: Well, no, well that's.

667
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: The famous thing. I will say this, And obviously, Maurice,

668
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: your brother Marcella was on last week and he was

669
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: trying to give Claudia some advice too.

670
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 5: But I will say this as well.

671
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 1: I think it's one of those things whereas this every

672
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: relationship operates differently for those two people involved, and I

673
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: think what Keisha and she have is a system that

674
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: works for them. And I applaud Keisha for being a

675
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: woman in this day and age, speaking her truth and

676
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: being proud to be a woman who says I would

677
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: be miserable if I don't take care of him, and listen,

678
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this and we're gonna be popular, and

679
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: it's fine. I think there is something nice to be

680
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: with somebody that desires to be there for you in

681
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: whatever way they need.

682
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 5: The needing right, Like.

683
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: She said, Gucci just has to shower and get in

684
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 1: the studio and she takes care of the rest.

685
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 5: But the beauty of that, to me is this. The

686
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 5: beauty of that is the fact that.

687
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: It doesn't diminish Keisha's accomplishments and how she is still

688
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: able to go to work every single day. And Keisha

689
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: k Or Davis has a mask a billion dollar business.

690
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: So for me, what I got from that is for

691
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: women and men that you can't take care of your

692
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: partner but also take care of yourself and do things

693
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: that makes you happy. And I think the unhappiness and

694
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: most marriages is when you spend so much time taking

695
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: care of one person and you feel depleted and you

696
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: don't have enough time to take care of yourself.

697
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 3: So that's what I don't want to be labor this.

698
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 2: But what I love the most and what I want

699
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: to make sure we highlight here is the fact that

700
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 2: Keisha spoke from her own perspective. Now one time did

701
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 2: she say as a woman, I feel like I'm supposed

702
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: to do this in a relationship, as a wife, I'm supposed.

703
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 3: To do it was none of that language.

704
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: And we're by no means promoting archaic, out of touch

705
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: gender roles. In this conversation, what Keisha said was that

706
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: she liked doing those things, and she wanted to do

707
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: those things for her man Gucci. It wasn't even really

708
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: a husband wife conversation. It was much of a this

709
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 2: is how I like to show up in this relationship,

710
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: and I like that. She made sure that it was

711
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: focused that way because it was encouraging as opposed to oppressing.

712
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 3: And I like that.

713
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 4: And if you take the money out of the equation, right,

714
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 4: you don't have to have like a Gucci man level

715
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 4: of money coming in. She clearly is still in love

716
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 4: with her husband, Like, be that something that you can

717
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 4: be broken and be in love with your person and

718
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 4: just feel safe with them no matter however he makes

719
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 4: you feel safe, Like when you're crazy about someone, you

720
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 4: want to do those things like you go above and

721
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 4: be I know, I do. Like when I'm looking to

722
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 4: love someone, I'm like, I want to think about Okay,

723
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 4: what else can I do? Say? I made French toes

724
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 4: with the cinnamon and the vanilla and it like you like,

725
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 4: or I made the pasta that you like, you know,

726
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 4: I mean, like whatever it is like when you're still

727
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 4: love with someone. You do those things just because you're

728
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 4: thinking about them, like what would make them smile? So

729
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 4: they're just on a much bigger high level, like the

730
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 4: you know, grander scale, I guess you say, But those

731
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 4: people they still look good, they're in love.

732
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 8: You know. I got a question for that, Claudia, because

733
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 8: you're a proverb story will women or the like right,

734
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 8: do you think that you could do the same thing

735
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 8: if the finances or the provisions weren't there, Like if

736
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 8: Gucci didn't have those provisions, do you think that she

737
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 8: could do the same thing or she would do the

738
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 8: same thing.

739
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 4: I don't know her to say, but I do think that,

740
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 4: of course. I think that sometimes the greater like population

741
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 4: to women gets a little misrepresented because of social media.

742
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 4: We see the worst of the worst a lot of times,

743
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 4: people that just focus on bags and material things. But

744
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 4: I know a lot of women in my real life

745
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 4: that they make more money than their men, and they

746
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 4: spoil them men. They love them then because their men

747
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 4: provide them something that makes them feel secure and feels

748
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 4: good and feel safe in other ways. When I was

749
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 4: with kJ and we were together for four years, four

750
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 4: years and he's still a best friend to the day.

751
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 4: We didn't get married, but like I made weigh more

752
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 4: money than him, but that man made me feel so

753
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 4: safe and taken care of, like he has my back

754
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 4: even to the day, like if I'm out of town,

755
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 4: like I might show to my house and he's mowing

756
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 4: the lawn. Now, a rich guy wouldn't do that, Like

757
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 4: they would just go het thrown and do that. I

758
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 4: appreciate that. So it depends like you can make your

759
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 4: woman feel safe without enormous amounts of money, you know,

760
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 4: by just showing up to her where she feels like

761
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 4: you got my back, you know, like and you're listening

762
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 4: to me. So yeah, I don't know her, but I

763
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 4: think there's a lot of women that the answer will

764
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 4: be yes. But we got to stop like believing everything

765
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 4: we see on social media and reality show because I

766
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 4: don't really think that's so much more. I don't think

767
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 4: that's as close to reality as I think.

768
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, maur babe, you.

769
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 8: Yes she has, but those were for intimate moments, not people.

770
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 8: You know, like Dustin said earlier, to make sure that

771
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 8: my my draws are good, right, it's not.

772
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,959
Speaker 4: A hard thing for men to keep like it like.

773
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 5: That hard for me, it's not hard at all.

774
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 8: It's not hard, and it shouldn't be hard for boys.

775
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 3: It shouldn't be hard for nobody.

776
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 8: That's not a hard thing.

777
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 4: You learn.

778
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 8: Really, you turned the brown purch white.

779
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would think that would know. Oh my god,

780
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 4: they're saying that Cage is the cock block. Yes, well

781
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 4: he is. I know for a long time he I

782
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 4: know he is. Trust me, I know he's a professional

783
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 4: cock block. Like, sorry, I'm not going to come, you know,

784
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 4: don't worry. He ain't gonna want come for much longer

785
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 4: because I'm I'm ready. It's been too long.

786
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: Okay, go there the light, Caroline. So the big is

787
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 1: this I do want to get into this season eleven

788
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: America tians Ville.

789
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 5: So, Marie, the biggest storyline that we're seeing thus.

790
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: Far has a lot to do with you and your

791
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: step son Jayleen.

792
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 5: Okay.

793
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: It has caused a star on social media, it has

794
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: caused a star in the commentary where your wife's son Jalen,

795
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: and and you and Kimmy just recently set the is

796
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: it seven years of marriage?

797
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 8: We'll be celebrating seven years on the twenty fifth.

798
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: Okay at the university.

799
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 8: Thank you, thank you, and love a marriage.

800
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: Wow, yes they got they got married season one of

801
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: the show.

802
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 4: I mean on TV in the public eye is like

803
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 4: fourteen years.

804
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 5: I think, Oh, he's easy, you know.

805
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 8: I mean, I think it's easier for us because, you know,

806
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 8: we were a little more mature when we got married,

807
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 8: so we kind of knew who we were. Now. Mind

808
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 8: you having a lot of feedback about your marriage, that

809
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 8: can also present some new challenges. But I think that

810
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 8: as you know that old saying that you know, reality

811
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 8: television breaks up your marriage, I don't believe that. I

812
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 8: think it's the individual that are in the marriage. Are

813
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 8: you guys, are you guys gonna make it? Or if

814
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 8: you guys are not. You know, if there's some cracks,

815
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 8: people can find a way, they can find a way in.

816
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 8: If you present a crack.

817
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: No, for sure, for sure, for sure. I do want

818
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: to get into you and Jalen's relationship.

819
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 5: Jayleen made a comment this.

820
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: Season on the show that he never felt that you

821
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: were somebody that he looked to as a father figure,

822
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: that in fact, he looked to your brother Marcel as

823
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: the father figure. When you first heard that, did that

824
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: shock you and did that hurt your feelings?

825
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 8: I'd say that it definitely hurt my feelings. Shocking. I

826
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 8: think that the relationship that you have, or a person

827
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 8: can have with their uncle was different than they would

828
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 8: with their dad, right, And I think that when you

829
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 8: don't have as much discipline, like parents have to also

830
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 8: discipline as well.

831
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 3: Right.

832
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 8: So, first of all, Jalen was a teenager and Kimmy

833
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 8: was doing a phenomenal job of raising Jalen and you

834
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 8: it's with every relationship because I have two older daughters too, right,

835
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 8: so I've been raising children that weren't mine that are

836
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 8: still mine and I still claim them and we still

837
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 8: have conversations with all that stuff even till today. So

838
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 8: the relationship that that most people think, oh, you love

839
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 8: differently because they're not yours. No, I've been choosing to

840
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 8: love children that I didn't create for for all you

841
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 8: know of my marriage and my previous marriage as well.

842
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 8: So I think that really the relationship that he had

843
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 8: with Marcel, and not just Marsa, he had another relationship

844
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 8: with the dark as well, it was different because you know,

845
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 8: it's more of a I can share more, I can

846
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 8: open up more. There's a little bit of an apprehensiveness

847
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 8: that Jalen also had with uh. He grew really close

848
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 8: to one of Kimmy's old boyfriends, and then that relationship

849
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 8: soured and then they went apart, but Jalen was still

850
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 8: close to that guy and he lost that connection. So

851
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 8: I think that there's a lot of different moving parts

852
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 8: to it, and I really wish that I would have

853
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 8: done better, you know, seeing that, because you know, at

854
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 8: the end of the day, I look at him like

855
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 8: my son.

856
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 4: Did that make you feel jealous?

857
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 1: Though?

858
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 4: Like what you said about your brother like I had.

859
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 4: It's hard fitting it jealousy at you know, and like

860
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 4: I don't want to say that, you know.

861
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 6: What I mean.

862
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, No, I wouldn't say jealous. I'm just happy that

863
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 8: we were able to get that, he was able to

864
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 8: get it, Like there's a lot of young men that

865
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 8: don't get the father figure, right my my pops. He

866
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 8: he was locked up for a little while, and some

867
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 8: other men that were in our village had to step up,

868
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 8: and we're better off because of it. You know, a

869
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 8: lot of a lot of the individuals I grew up with.

870
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 8: By the time I was twenty one thirty, one of

871
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 8: my friends were dead, yeah, dead, And then we had

872
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 8: other ones that went to jail, and you know, some

873
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 8: of them got out when I'm in my forties. So

874
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 8: the fact that you have someone there that you can

875
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 8: that you feel comfortable to share with is meaningful to me.

876
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 8: And if I can't give it all, of course, I

877
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 8: want someone else around me to be able to get

878
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 8: you what you need.

879
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 2: Mary's what do you have to say to the people

880
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 2: who because again you've been clear even tonight you said

881
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 2: plainly that you see Jayleen as your son and that

882
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: you love him.

883
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 3: You love Jalen.

884
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: Right, there's some viewers who have decided that there's an

885
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 2: emotional piece that you don't see when you're in a

886
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 2: confrontational conversation with someone that you care about. This is

887
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 2: family shit we talking about, so it's deeply personal, you.

888
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 3: Know what I mean?

889
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,439
Speaker 2: What do you want to say about the emotional component there?

890
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: Because Jalen was expressing his feelings in that scene, right,

891
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 2: He felt like you did not love him fully and

892
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 2: totally as your son, and he felt like you parented

893
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 2: your son monster differently than him, and you cited examples

894
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 2: of things that you had done for him. You brought

895
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: up you know, material things and and other things to

896
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 2: try to sort of illustrate right that you do make

897
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 2: an effort and you are you do feel that way

898
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: about him, but we didn't see you necessarily speak to

899
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 2: the emotional piece. What do you have to say about

900
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 2: how Jalen feels and what do you want him to

901
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: know about how you feel about him?

902
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 8: Okay, there's two parts to that dustin. First part is

903
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 8: and some of this is gonna come out in the

904
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 8: new season. Okay, I looked at life completely different than

905
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 8: most people did, right. I completely eliminated a lot of

906
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 8: the emotional aspect to life. Right, most of my life

907
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 8: has been just is this logical? Does this make sense?

908
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 8: If it doesn't make sense, then I don't kind of

909
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 8: understand how it works and how you think like that.

910
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 8: Like for me, one of the greatest things I even

911
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 8: told Carlos when we first got on the show is

912
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 8: man the comment section, like some of this stuff is

913
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 8: like I can't believe y'all think like this. Some of

914
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 8: its comedy, some of it's like where the hell did

915
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 8: y'all get this stuff from? You know, one sentence leads

916
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 8: to a whole. You can write a book off of

917
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 8: just one sentences, right, So it's it's it's it's amazing

918
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 8: to see all of these different aspects. But some of

919
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 8: that stuff comes from an emotional standpoint and an emotional

920
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 8: place where that individual is from. So when Jalen said

921
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 8: that he didn't feel like monster, I'm looking at him

922
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 8: like monster, only you're older, right, So I treat I

923
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 8: treat Monster differently as he gets older than he does

924
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 8: when he's younger. You know what I mean? And part

925
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 8: of it is I grew up in a big family, right,

926
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 8: And the older siblings they have more responsibilities because the

927
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 8: younger siblings naturally looked up to them more struggle than

928
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 8: the parents. They have more influence over their younger siblings

929
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 8: than the parents. So it's like, if I can get

930
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 8: you on my side, then you know it may easier

931
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 8: for the younger guy.

932
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 2: So what do you have to say, Marie about how

933
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: Jalen feels about the emotion Because I get trust me,

934
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: I get what your I get the influence on taking

935
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 2: and removing that from the way that you view the world.

936
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: But we saw a scene where your son, Jalen was

937
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: saying to you, Hey, I don't feel like you love

938
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: me as much as my brother, who is your biological son.

939
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 3: What do you want.

940
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 2: Jalen to know without having to explain why you arrived

941
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,959
Speaker 2: at those feelings are what your makeup is per se,

942
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 2: but just strictly focusing on the emotional piece. What is

943
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 2: there anything that you want to say about that scene

944
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 2: or about how you feel about Jalen or what you

945
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 2: want to what you want him to know about how

946
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 2: you feel about him?

947
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, I absolutely or Jalen just like you. If I

948
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 8: would have made him and I would have had the

949
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 8: pleasure of raising him from a boy all the way

950
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 8: into a man, I love him just like that. And

951
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 8: I dropped the ball like there's a there's a significant

952
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 8: there's a significant piece to this puzzle missing, and that

953
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 8: is mental health, right, the whole idea of living until

954
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 8: I'm in my I'm in my late forties, going through

955
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 8: the world, navigating without the whole emotional aspect. That's like,

956
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 8: that's that's the motivation oftentimes of why people do what

957
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 8: they do. And I'm divorced from that, not really you know,

958
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 8: not really understanding the feeling aspect of it. So I'm

959
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 8: looking at the situation like I'm here right but going

960
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 8: through therapy. This is this is just something I just

961
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 8: want to put out there in the atmosphere.

962
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:39,439
Speaker 3: We need to have.

963
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 8: We need to have emotional and intellectual conversations as black men,

964
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 8: and to widely accept mental health like we do physical health.

965
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I agree.

966
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 8: It should be really available, like they should have mental

967
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 8: gen just like they have, you know.

968
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 5: Physical jibs. It's called the strip clod.

969
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 8: No, it's called doesn't it's called black.

970
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: Marie.

971
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 4: Do you think because it sounds to me like you're

972
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 4: very logical and like I'm looking at the comments in

973
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 4: this and he doesn't emot he doesn't show emotion. And listen,

974
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 4: everyone doesn't. Everyone's not mushy like I don't show up

975
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 4: for people like that. It's very hard for some people,

976
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 4: depending on how you're raised. Like me and my mom,

977
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 4: we've never said I love you, but we do things

978
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 4: in our actions. You ever said your mom does loving

979
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 4: like you are to your goudy of mind, she is

980
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 4: because she does this, she does that, she does this right.

981
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 4: Do you feel that maybe you're being misunderstood or do

982
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 4: you show an emotion or do you do you see

983
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 4: them with the comments that have you heard that before?

984
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 8: They're actually calling it like it is I'm learning emotion.

985
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 8: I'm actually learning this. This is something that's new to me.

986
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 4: Learning emotions.

987
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 8: Absolutely, this is a whole different world. I don't as

988
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 8: a matter of fact, I don't know any black men

989
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 8: that's in my circle that just sits around and talks

990
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 8: about how they feel.

991
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 4: Are you like that with your wife as well? Or

992
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 4: is it just an other like is it hard for

993
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 4: you with her as well, because that can be something

994
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 4: that's across the border. Or is it just like with

995
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 4: with children?

996
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 8: It is in general? Like in general, like me and

997
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 8: my wife, we've been going to therapy and it's been

998
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 8: eye open, like legitimately eye opening. I look at the

999
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 8: world now with color, and it used to be black

1000
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 8: and white, you know all you know, no shades of grade.

1001
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 8: It's like writing lane like at the end of the day.

1002
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 8: Even in it was hard for me in law school,

1003
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 8: like I had to actually make it logical, like so

1004
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 8: for example, I'll give you a perfect example of this.

1005
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 8: A five to four decision means that one person makes

1006
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 8: the law to land right. So going into law school,

1007
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 8: everything had to have a right answer. It's either right,

1008
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 8: room and until I got to that point, like these

1009
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 8: are the greatest minds in law, how do you come

1010
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 8: up with a five four decision. That's because there's shades

1011
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 8: of great.

1012
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 2: Do you see what I'm saying, Listen, I have a

1013
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 2: lot of respect for anybody that's brave enough to admit

1014
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: that they're and be open to learning and understanding systems

1015
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 2: better to improve the relationships in their life. So I

1016
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 2: have a lot of respect for you admitting that you know,

1017
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 2: understanding and acknowledging feelings and emotion is something new that

1018
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 2: you are willing to do. Obviously is critically important because

1019
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 2: your son just told you that he had a challenge

1020
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 2: with emotions when it came to connecting, and I know

1021
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 2: it's important for you to connect to Jayleen.

1022
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 3: You've said it plainly tonight alone.

1023
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 2: So I just applaud you for being open to that,

1024
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 2: and I wish you and Kenmya and Jalen the best

1025
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 2: with that work in therapy. I think that's wonderful and

1026
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: you're incredibly self aware to even admit that, So I

1027
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 2: respect that.

1028
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 3: Marius, Thank you, classy.

1029
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 4: One thing, seeing how this emotion piece has been a

1030
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 4: struggle few and I'm glad you and that people are

1031
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 4: very appreciative of that. Like while we've never heard you

1032
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 4: say this and opening up a lot of people don't

1033
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 4: say that. Have you been accused of being a narcissist,

1034
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 4: because that's what some people will say. They'll be like, oh,

1035
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 4: they're a narcissist. They don't feel anything, they're always right.

1036
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 4: Has that ever been thrown your way? That label?

1037
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 3: Man?

1038
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 8: People say whatever, Like I listened to professionals. So like,

1039
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 8: at the end of the day, when I sit down

1040
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 8: with a professional and these people have actually went to school,

1041
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 8: they've actually got you know, real training behind this, then

1042
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 8: they are the ones that I actually think should diagnose

1043
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 8: because your friends, they kind of have their perspective, they

1044
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 8: want the best for you, but that doesn't mean that

1045
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 8: they're professionally trained for this, you know. So yeah, and

1046
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 8: in general, I try not to be wrong, Like I

1047
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 8: don't know anybody it was to go in wrong.

1048
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 3: You know.

1049
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 8: And what's important to me about this even more so,

1050
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 8: is I don't want Jalen to have the same relationship

1051
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 8: with his children because the truth is based on the statistics,

1052
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 8: he may wind up marrying someone that already has a kid.

1053
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 8: So how do you connect, how do you how do

1054
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 8: you work your way through that blended family?

1055
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: You know, I do want to I do want to

1056
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: talk to you a little bit about this too, because

1057
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 1: when you were talking to your brother in the scene

1058
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: in last week's episode that's also finished off in the

1059
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: beginning of this past Saturday's episode where your you, you

1060
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: and Marcel are a part of is it nine siblings

1061
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: or eight?

1062
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 5: Hey, so it's it's a kids total.

1063
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: Marcel said that growing up you were considered the golden child,

1064
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: and that the reason why the audience and and the

1065
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: world and the people around you feel like you're so

1066
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: hard on your son Monster is because you want him

1067
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,720
Speaker 1: to be the golden child. Help and that Jalen feels

1068
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 1: like his stepbrother is a golden child just like you

1069
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: are his father. What was going on as you being

1070
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: a part of the construct of having southern siblings where

1071
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: your brother Marcel even said, like, of all the kids,

1072
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: you were the golden child, Like what made you the

1073
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: govern child of all of them?

1074
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 8: I really don't know. I tried my best not to

1075
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 8: do stuff wrong. I tried to do things right, but

1076
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 8: you know I got my fair share of trouble, and

1077
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 8: one of the number one things was because I was stubborn.

1078
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 8: You know that my personality fits my profession to a

1079
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 8: t Like I'm stubborn I'll do what it takes to

1080
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 8: work hard. I'm an advocate all of those things. I've

1081
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 8: always had. Like matter of fact, one time, man, my

1082
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 8: family jumped me. They jumped me because my mom was

1083
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 8: Marcell had gotten out the line, and I felt like

1084
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 8: Marcell had had enough, right and uh, I was like, well,

1085
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 8: why don't he just ent her back? And they were like, wait,

1086
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 8: what hit your mom back? I learned that lesson very

1087
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 8: very very clearly. You kind of need to stay in

1088
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 8: a child's place.

1089
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 3: Please talk about.

1090
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 8: My siblings helped me figure that out.

1091
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: Please don't bring us a crowd hitting their mama on

1092
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 2: this podcast.

1093
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: We're just now getting over that, all right. But wait,

1094
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: they jumped you because you said you were going to

1095
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: do that.

1096
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 8: I said that Marshall should hit my mom back, and

1097
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 8: my older sister, now, mind you. I grew up in

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00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 8: a blended family, so the step we never called anybody

1099
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 8: in our house step siblings like that. That never that

1100
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 8: didn't need That concept doesn't even exist in my world, right.

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00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 8: My older sister said, you do what he should do?

1102
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 3: What?

1103
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 4: Oh?

1104
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 8: And it was on like my mom actually, now mind you.

1105
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 8: My mom stopped to address me after I got mine

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00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 8: from my mom. Then the siblings all jumped in and

1107
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 8: took care of it. And you know what, I never

1108
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 8: had to learn that again.

1109
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 5: So so your mom, your mom whooped you.

1110
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: And then then.

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00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 3: At a job Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

1112
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 4: Are you crazy?

1113
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 6: I was a little bit that day.

1114
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 4: Okay, I'll call you crazy and a little little blue.

1115
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 8: Hey, Claudia, I need to see I need to see

1116
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 8: the words behind your name in order for you to

1117
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 8: you know, diagnose me.

1118
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 4: Well, I as someone who's fifty one, eighty forty years,

1119
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 4: thirty years, I'm saying you and you never answered my question.

1120
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 4: What has anyone ever accused you of being that? Whether

1121
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 4: or not letters behind the name, it is not the issue.

1122
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 8: The check the check and and social media they do

1123
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 8: it all the time, like a narcissist.

1124
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 4: By the way, for your wife, but people like your

1125
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 4: wife or your brother.

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00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 8: No, none of no. But once we learned the term

1127
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 8: as like a culture, we'll use it.

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00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 4: I know, I know, but you didn't answer me until

1129
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 4: just now. But okay, thank you.

1130
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 3: Hobout I said it the first time.

1131
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: Oh you give a.

1132
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 4: Whole We went around the lock and down the street

1133
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 4: impact and that's why me and Dustin took a shot

1134
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 4: low key. I said, Okay, you went back on.

1135
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 3: The brown back on the brown Man. We're back on

1136
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 3: the brown Man because I'm over here swinging for you, Marise.

1137
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm trying to help you, brother. I think, Carlos, let's

1138
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 2: have a real conversation. Rights. We have watched you on

1139
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 2: this show for so many years. Right, it's a lot

1140
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 2: of people that are rooting for you. We all remember

1141
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 2: the conversation that were very controversial that you bravely showed

1142
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 2: between you and Kimmy when she was going through her

1143
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 2: diagnosis and her treatment and her sex drive had been affected.

1144
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 2: And y'all had a very honest conversation about that on camera,

1145
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 2: and you experienced people misunderstanding your intentions and painting you

1146
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 2: as a person who didn't give a damn about a

1147
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 2: fam of familial connection or caring how a person was

1148
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 2: made to feel.

1149
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 3: Right, So now.

1150
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 2: Here we are again, where we're in an opportunity. You

1151
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 2: have an opportunity to show people how you care about

1152
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 2: these people in your life, and it is again, deeply personal.

1153
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 2: So ain't nobody trying to step on your toes or

1154
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 2: disrespect these real issues that you all are sharing. But

1155
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 2: we want to see you say we don't want to

1156
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 2: see you say anything. Are surrounding what you need to say.

1157
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 2: You want to just hear you say, Yo, I care

1158
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 2: about you. I care about you, Jaalen. You are my son.

1159
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 2: I love you, and I'm sorry that I made you

1160
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 2: feel that way. I never wanted to do that. That's

1161
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 2: all people want to hear you say. And when you

1162
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 2: offer up these very honest and very brave because you're

1163
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 2: sharing all this real personal stuff, right, so we respect it,

1164
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 2: but it's not helping to get people to understand that

1165
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 2: you actually do care. You actually are concerned with Jalen's

1166
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 2: feelings toward you, you know what I mean, more so

1167
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 2: than being defensive or trying to change his mind about it,

1168
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 2: because he shared with you a feeling, right, So you

1169
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 2: can't cite experiences to try to change the perspective. You

1170
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 2: could just reassure. And I think people just really want

1171
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,959
Speaker 2: to see you be reassuring in that way and it'll

1172
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 2: make them feel a little bit more understanding of like

1173
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 2: where you're coming from, because I feel like you explained

1174
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 2: it beautifully and you were honest tonight, right, But there's

1175
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 2: just that missing piece where you kind of like hit

1176
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 2: the bull's eye and say like, this is what I

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01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 2: want you to know for sure, now why I feel

1178
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 2: like this or what happened or what else could be,

1179
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 2: how it could be different. This is how I feel

1180
01:01:58,040 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 2: and I want you to know. I think that's what

1181
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 2: people want to see. And this is a great opportunity

1182
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 2: for you to you know what I'm saying. You have

1183
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 2: you have shared that tonight, like Yo, I love Jalen.

1184
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 2: He is my son, and that's what I want him

1185
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 2: to know. I think people just want to see you

1186
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 2: do that.

1187
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 3: Man. You're a black lawyer.

1188
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, business owner like real estate mogul,

1189
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 2: got a beautiful black, blended family that people need to see.

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01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 2: It's a lot of people rooting for you that want

1191
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 2: to see you or be successful and have thriving relationships,

1192
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 2: and they just really want to see you show up

1193
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 2: in that way.

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01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 3: I think that it's really that simple, bro.

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01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 8: You know what, Dustin, I'll tell you. I take that,

1196
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 8: you know wholeheartedly. Ultimately I'm crossing that bridge. Yeah, I'm

1197
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 8: coming from a place to where I know that there's

1198
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 8: the feeling side of life and I'm trying to get there.

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01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 8: You can say it so much better than I do,

1200
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 8: because you've already been experiencing that for so long, right,

1201
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 8: and I'm trying to get there. I'm also saying, Okay,

1202
01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 8: that's not what I meant that. I'm trying to tell

1203
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 8: you why I said this, and that's that's meaningless. Really

1204
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 8: know that, Hey, I got it. As a dad, I

1205
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 8: got it. You know what, son? I love you. I

1206
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 8: should have never dropped the ball. I should have been better.

1207
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 8: That's I can't from here forward.

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01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 3: That's it, right there, bro, that's it man, m h.

1209
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 4: I think that's like the best thing that you said tonight.

1210
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 4: With with what you're saying, and I understand a person

1211
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 4: that feels I'm constantly being misunderstood. So you want to

1212
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 4: train your stance. No, I didn't mean like that. No,

1213
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 4: I didn't mean to make it.

1214
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 5: No, I didn't do that.

1215
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 4: And then I get that, and then the balance of

1216
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 4: do you want to be right or do you want

1217
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 4: to be happy? And sometimes that's the adults or the

1218
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 4: older person we have to like sometimes suck it up

1219
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 4: sometimes and understand that everyone's not going to understand how

1220
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 4: we think and we process things. And that sucks, right

1221
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 4: because especially you're doing in front of an audience and

1222
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 4: you have all these people trying to I say, skilled

1223
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 4: with the comma, the saying right. It's between how your

1224
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 4: son and your wife feel that's right, they're lacking. It's

1225
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 4: about how they feel school. We say we gonna do

1226
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 4: commentary regardless, and so the comments right. But like, and

1227
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 4: I think you are going in the right direction because

1228
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 4: you did say tonight, which I've never heard someone say

1229
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 4: I was black and white before, and now I think,

1230
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 4: mm hmm, that is a major first step. And if

1231
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 4: you just leaning keep leaning to that light, that's major.

1232
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 4: It's so hard for people to change. It's so easy

1233
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 4: for us to sit back and say, well, why can't

1234
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 4: you just do it the way I would do it. Right,

1235
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 4: the fact that you are going in that direction and

1236
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 4: just lean more towards that, and I think you'll be fine.

1237
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 4: Like acknowledging it is the hardest part, and like seeing

1238
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 4: it from someone else's perspective is so hard. But it

1239
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 4: sounds like the night you're saying you have.

1240
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 8: And I want to be better. I don't want to

1241
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 8: be you know, the more East is right and lose

1242
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 8: his family and lose his children and all the rest

1243
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 8: of this stuff. Because this principle that I think that

1244
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 8: works right, should have worked or whatever. It doesn't matter.

1245
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 8: If your kids don't love you, right, you could give

1246
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 8: them the world and then I don't even like you. Yeah,

1247
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 8: So the thing is, do you have the connection with

1248
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 8: your children? This is my lineage, right, What am I

1249
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 8: doing all this stuff for if they're not the ones

1250
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 8: that that connect with me and see, you know, all

1251
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 8: the best that I want for them in the world.

1252
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 8: That's yeah. Outside of that, man, you know, just to

1253
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 8: keep the same perspective that I've had. There's no growth far.

1254
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no.

1255
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 6: That's good.

1256
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: And listen, I'm happy we're able to really listen to

1257
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: Claudia and DestinE about that too, because I think they

1258
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: helped you sort of like drive home your point. One

1259
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 1: thing I did want to ask you to is you

1260
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: know and that scene between you and your brother, it

1261
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: ended with you calling your brother Marcell a liar and

1262
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: pretty much saying that he lies all the time. What

1263
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: did you mean by that? Because the world had a

1264
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 1: reaction to it, and your brother Marcel said that did

1265
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: piss them off.

1266
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 8: I did that to pis Mars off because I knew

1267
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:57,919
Speaker 8: that there was because he was trying to intentionally piss

1268
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 8: me off. And the thing is, Marsa siblings know what

1269
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 8: you can say and how to say it to piss

1270
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 8: you off. It's one thing you know to say, Hey, Maurice,

1271
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 8: you know what, Let's sit down and have a conversation

1272
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 8: with Jalen or whatever. And then Marcell brings up, hey,

1273
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 8: but you're the golden child and this I'm like, man,

1274
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 8: come on, that's the stuff that you used to say

1275
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 8: when we were kids. You don't have to bring that

1276
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 8: up to try to make this point. At the end

1277
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 8: of the day, the most important thing is how does

1278
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 8: Jalen feel?

1279
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 3: Right?

1280
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 8: Let me correct that, let me see where he's coming from.

1281
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 8: Let me deal with that situation. But and Marcel, like Carlos,

1282
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 8: you know anybody, and especially you Dustin because you're a

1283
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 8: comedian too, right. Y'all know how to pour sauce on

1284
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 8: some stuff. Y'all know how to go ahead and add

1285
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 8: a little bit air to it. Marcel adds flair whether

1286
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 8: it's for a reaction or whether it's to make a joke.

1287
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 8: But he knows what gets people going. That's the thing

1288
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 8: about comedians. They know how people think, so they know

1289
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 8: how to get a reaction out of people.

1290
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 4: Did you think he brought up the golden child thing

1291
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 4: because it's a relatable like position. He feels like, well,

1292
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 4: I feel kind of like how Jalen feels seeing a

1293
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 4: fellow golden child. Do you think he meant it? I

1294
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 4: thought maybe he was doing that and not Jabba. Did

1295
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 4: you feel like he was javingue?

1296
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 8: I think Marshall was jabbing me. And I also think

1297
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 8: that Marshall knows what's commuter reaction m hm.

1298
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 1: And indeed, what we did see in the premiere episode,

1299
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 1: am I happy feedback?

1300
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 3: Yeah? You sound fine to me. Okay, okay, all right,

1301
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 3: I'll keep it going.

1302
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 1: So one of the things that occurred in the premier

1303
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 1: episode was the top of conversation with.

1304
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 5: Martell doing an interview.

1305
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 1: That he felt was a response to what Tsha said

1306
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: about him on Actually.

1307
01:07:58,920 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 5: A Mother Night Live.

1308
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 8: And we're going.

1309
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: To see what happens in that conversation in two weeks

1310
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: when Maurice sits down with Martel to talk to him

1311
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: about that interview. What I do want to ask you

1312
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 1: before we see that episode in two weeks, I do

1313
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 1: want to ask you, how did you feel knowing that

1314
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: somebody who you considered a friend did an interview in

1315
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: response to what Tisha was saying, but that your name

1316
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,839
Speaker 1: was brought up in that interview with you being accused

1317
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: of doing things per.

1318
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 8: The interview, Yeah, I didn't. First of all, I didn't

1319
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:47,799
Speaker 8: like it, right, I don't. I don't like the mess

1320
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 8: like I think they had a little light shade. I

1321
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 8: understand the back and forth, but we don't have to

1322
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 8: go scorch earth. I think we should be above that, right,

1323
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 8: There's no need for us to dress up in suits

1324
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 8: and talk about business and as you tay it and

1325
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 8: then you know, do dumb ship like that. So yeah,

1326
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 8: I think that that was offensive. But you know, I

1327
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 8: also understand that you know, Martell has been battling with

1328
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 8: his back to the wall for seven years, six years,

1329
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 8: seven years, right, and we've actually seen the demise of

1330
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 8: his whole family in front of the world. Like at

1331
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,759
Speaker 8: the end of the day, I don't know. I don't

1332
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 8: know any person that was on reality television that was

1333
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 8: hated more than Martell, Like it was right, you're laughing, right.

1334
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:41,839
Speaker 4: But he's very nasty.

1335
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 8: Right after a little while, you probably need to feel like,

1336
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 8: you know what, man, it's mere versus everybody. And if

1337
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:52,640
Speaker 8: I think that you may do something, I'm going to

1338
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 8: do it pre emptively. That's where Martell has been and

1339
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 8: I want, I've been wanted him to get out of

1340
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 8: that because there's a completely different side of Martel that

1341
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 8: the world hasn't seen. There's a reason why he was

1342
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 8: well liked by people. That's the side that people that

1343
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 8: haven't seen yet, and that's the side that I really

1344
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 8: liked for him the show.

1345
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 3: It's probably too late now.

1346
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 8: I mean, he's been he's they put him in a space,

1347
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 8: but you.

1348
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 2: Know, he put itself in that space to be honest,

1349
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 2: because we watched him make and not judging him for

1350
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 2: making a mistake, because everyone makes mistakes. But the problem

1351
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 2: is that we watched Martel time after time not take

1352
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 2: any accountability, place the name on everybody else, you know

1353
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, and those things just compile a profile

1354
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,600
Speaker 2: that does not reflect someone giving a damn enough to

1355
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 2: even know if you're fund and got a good, you know,

1356
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 2: fun loving side and connect your side.

1357
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 3: And unfortunately it's just been so much at this point.

1358
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 2: Bro, Like, we watched him in this week's episode have

1359
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 2: a conversation and go all over the place to a

1360
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 2: dialogue concern in the demise of his marriage, not one time,

1361
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 2: but lightly alluding to you know what, I did do

1362
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 2: this and it wasn't hurt it was me.

1363
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 3: Just still no.

1364
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 2: Accountability, no clear understanding. You just want to shake your

1365
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 2: fucking TV when he starts talking about stuff because you

1366
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 2: can't believe that he's ignoring this real, blatant thing that

1367
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 2: has influenced everything else falling apart.

1368
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 3: So it's just, you know, he.

1369
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 4: Seems like he would be a nightmare to deal with.

1370
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 4: Like I got to push your button, deflect, get people

1371
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 4: look over here and say the things Maurice's I want

1372
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 4: to give you a positive comment for you, Rodney made

1373
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 4: in nine real or six as after the interview. I

1374
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 4: have a greater understanding and empathy for Maurice, give him

1375
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 4: grace and let him grow.

1376
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 3: So that's right.

1377
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 4: I feel like you should share the positive comments with folks.

1378
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, no, that's why.

1379
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: No. You if listen, we thank you for coming onto

1380
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 1: this show because you know it's live and invested. You know,

1381
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 1: ask tough questions too, so it's nice for you guys

1382
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 1: to get that experience. One thing I do want to

1383
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 1: talk about that we saw this episode was Chris Fletcher.

1384
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:12,839
Speaker 1: Chris Fletcher made a comment that you and your brother

1385
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 1: do have women sign in das he repeated that to

1386
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:24,719
Speaker 1: in the Huntspell sais his wife, Tsha and your wife.

1387
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 1: Kimmy confronts miss Nell about it, and then Tisha and

1388
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 1: her him and see that she got from Justin's bar

1389
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 1: started to check everybody about it in this past week's episode.

1390
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 5: But I do want to ask you this, when you

1391
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 5: saw that Chris Fletcher.

1392
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 1: Said that you, Maurice, you have women sign n DA's

1393
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 1: as well, what does where did he get that from?

1394
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:53,839
Speaker 1: Because you know when people when people here Martell say something,

1395
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: everyone tries to say, well take that from the grain

1396
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 1: of salt. So with Chris Fletcher that people do see

1397
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 1: as sort of like the godfather of Huntsville. A lot

1398
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,799
Speaker 1: of people don't see Chris Fletcher to be a liar.

1399
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 1: Why would he say something like that?

1400
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 8: I have no idea? And that's kind of why I

1401
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 8: really felt like I had some smoke for Chris, because

1402
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 8: it's like, bro, where is this stuff coming from? And

1403
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 8: then this is the unfair part, right, The unfair part

1404
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 8: is I'd rather you make a criticism about me personally

1405
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 8: that my wife doesn't have to defend it. Doesn't impact

1406
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 8: my wife. Right, if you're gonna if you have something

1407
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 8: that you have negative to say about me or whatever,

1408
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 8: I can handle, you know, extreme levels of criticism, right.

1409
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, it's it's like, man,

1410
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 8: where did this come from? I don't even we never

1411
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 8: really hung out really like that, so I don't even

1412
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 8: know where you're where you're getting this information from so

1413
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 8: much so to put it out there like this is

1414
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 8: something that I do.

1415
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 2: And then he lied about it when y'all asked him

1416
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 2: about it. When Marceau asked him about it, he straight

1417
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,599
Speaker 2: up live, well, no, no, no, I no, I ain't

1418
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 2: say that, but he.

1419
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, the record, right, and for the record, he said,

1420
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 1: it sounds like something y'all would do.

1421
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 8: Right, But even even if if where would you get

1422
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 8: that from? Like if if it sounds like something that

1423
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 8: I would do, where would you get it from? Like

1424
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:24,599
Speaker 8: when Basis on.

1425
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 4: That Martel, do you think Martel said that seems like

1426
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:28,679
Speaker 4: he's a little bit of a hater with you guys

1427
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 4: at times. So you know, he seems like he's the

1428
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 4: messiest one on there that likes to gossip and ship

1429
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 4: and run his mouth. I'm just saying there's.

1430
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 8: A fair of sure gossip from all of the men.

1431
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 4: Technique I'm out to call in. I want from it.

1432
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 4: Bring him on, I don't care.

1433
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 1: No, but.

1434
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 4: Are saying they're they're throwing his name out there, and

1435
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 4: you know some of the Matthew thinks. Martel calls your

1436
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,600
Speaker 4: wife a side chicken, calls you a cheap damn and

1437
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 4: y'all so cool. He's saying, only thing it's about y'all.

1438
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 8: This is the thing, Martell. This you could tell Martel

1439
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 8: is about to lie. Normally he'll just like clear his

1440
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 8: throat before it does it, Like there are certain mannerisms

1441
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 8: that you can't get away from that people tend to do.

1442
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 8: Like some people scratch their neck, other people clear their throat,

1443
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 8: other people, you know, look away.

1444
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, but what does he do before he lies?

1445
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 8: Typically clears his throat.

1446
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 2: But mind you, my mind is racing back to I'm

1447
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:44,679
Speaker 2: thinking about maruh Martella and his confessionals shrugging his shoulders

1448
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 2: and clearing his so you know, I can see it.

1449
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 4: Alic, what do you think about this? I know you

1450
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:56,560
Speaker 4: like Martel. I like everybody, don't Martell?

1451
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 1: I like everybody.

1452
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 4: I think he's the poor shot. No, ye oh, police.

1453
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:08,600
Speaker 1: No, I will say this. Listen, it's funny, which is

1454
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 1: why that's a good question. You asked funny about how

1455
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 1: you can tell I.

1456
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 4: Think you like take another realities.

1457
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 6: I think.

1458
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 1: They're all great. No, the thing is this, what's funny

1459
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 1: is I never.

1460
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 5: I'm like Dustin.

1461
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 9: I never even I don't know, I've never took clear

1462
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 9: his throat. But that but again, I don't. I'm not

1463
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 9: in the hotspale. But that's why I'm.

1464
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm laughing because I'm like Dustin. I'm trying to like

1465
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 1: rewind and roll the tape of of those things. But

1466
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:48,839
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have a moment to say, watch this,

1467
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: this is what is going on. That's hilarious, Maurice, that's funny.

1468
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 8: I couldn't be wrong.

1469
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 4: We need one of the rain Drops to put a

1470
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 4: compilation video together.

1471
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, something, we need a Martell clearing his throat, scuper cat.

1472
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 1: That's what I want.

1473
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 5: I want to ask the ray Drops.

1474
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: So, ray Drops, does Martell clear his throat before he

1475
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 1: starts to say anything? Let me know, ray Jobs, because again.

1476
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 2: They must be where he lies. That's what that's what

1477
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:29,719
Speaker 2: we're looking for. Lies that man.

1478
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 4: In the words of Colors king.

1479
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 1: I love all.

1480
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 5: Y'all are shady tonight. I love it, thought, I love it.

1481
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 4: We need another drink on this one.

1482
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 3: Come home, get that green drinking.

1483
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,520
Speaker 4: Get you something here, your clear.

1484
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 3: Claudia.

1485
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 1: Okay, wait the Copps, I said, he surely does he does.

1486
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 1: Wait wait, Missus, Jones says, wipes his nose.

1487
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:10,680
Speaker 5: And mouth, you are hilarious.

1488
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 2: He looked down to he always started looking down at

1489
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 2: his right shoe and left.

1490
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,839
Speaker 3: Just look down every time. I can see it, Mari.

1491
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 4: When he gets a little smirk like that little what

1492
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 4: a lot of men do they smirk they when they

1493
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 4: they know they're about to try to.

1494
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:30,719
Speaker 8: Be an Easter hunt.

1495
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,679
Speaker 5: Miss said, can't forget thinks of that nature?

1496
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 3: Oh where is that to down to the ground. He's

1497
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 3: always saying that.

1498
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 4: You know, I think, damn Martell d'afaniel's tell.

1499
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 3: To take that to the reunion this year.

1500
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 2: You gotta let me clear my throat to this year.

1501
01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 4: Let me clear mindself.

1502
01:18:59,280 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 3: That's right.

1503
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 1: Music are hilarious. Okay, So Maurice, thank you for stepping

1504
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 1: it to mother. And I like what I will say

1505
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 1: is this you guys this season will see I think

1506
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 1: I told din I tell you this. I may have

1507
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 1: told this Kimmy. I told Kimmy because we did pressed

1508
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. There's the theme between Kimmy and

1509
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 1: Maurice that happens this season that.

1510
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 5: Shook me to my core.

1511
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, Love Plant, Season one, episode seven. So look,

1512
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 1: there's the theme between Jimmy and Maurice where they talk

1513
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 1: about their marriage. And this is post. I don't want

1514
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 1: to get too much away, so just watch it. But

1515
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 1: what I will say it is, in my opinion, the

1516
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 1: most dynamic scene between a married couple where they talk

1517
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 1: about issues that leaves your mouth on the floor like

1518
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 1: it's oh, it is shocked. It's shocking. Do you know

1519
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, Maice? I think so okay, yes, yes, yes,

1520
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: yes it was.

1521
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 8: It was.

1522
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 1: It was shocking.

1523
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:36,600
Speaker 4: But are we gonna be mad?

1524
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 6: I hope not. I'm growing. People give a measure of greatness.

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Speaker 6: It's listen.

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Speaker 1: I will say that, Yes, all was progress.

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Speaker 4: We don't made tonight, missus Scott here, we don't think tonight.

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Speaker 1: You are he already felt.

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01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 5: It is already filmed, is it the cab?

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01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,600
Speaker 1: I watched that scene. I was on a flight. I

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01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 1: watched that scene three times cause I was and I

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01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 1: called my producers when I land and I said, wait

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01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 1: a minute, y'all to tell me it happened like that,

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Speaker 1: like it's a real The beauty of this show is

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01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 1: these couples have real conversations to each other like like like,

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01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 1: like Marie said early, listen, all the men on the

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01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 1: shows gossap. It's what they do. But but what I

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01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 1: love about this show is when the couple themselves can

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01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 1: have a real conversation and does in the CLAUSEA, it

1540
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 1: was so real and raw the conversation that I felt

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Speaker 1: that they forgot their own camera.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait too well, it.

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Speaker 1: Was, it was, it was, It was good. So listen.

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Speaker 1: Love Match Husville is back every Saturday, eight o'clock, seven

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01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 1: Central on the Upper Winfrey Network. It is the number

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01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 1: one show in the network. Congratulations Maurice Scott. He is

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01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 1: an og. Like he said, he and Kenny got married

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01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:59,879
Speaker 1: first season on the show. We are celebrating our tenth season.

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Speaker 1: So my thanks to the crew, the cast, the fans

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01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 1: for keeping the show alive and it's been good. So

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01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:15,639
Speaker 1: thank you Maurice for coming online and good job because

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Speaker 1: you journalism back.

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Speaker 8: Tonight, y'all, take it easy.

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01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 1: You have a good one, don't worry, and I will

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01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 1: and Maurice, I will see you at the Hieta concertn't

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01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 1: get to me all right, thank you, Marie. Reality with

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Speaker 1: the King is executive produced by me Carlos King, produced

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Speaker 1: by Lizzie Nimitz.

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Speaker 5: And a partnership with the Lack Effect Network.

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Speaker 1: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at

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Speaker 1: the Carlos King Underscore