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Speaker 1: Merrick Garland is held in contempt. That's a big deal.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that some foreigner is spending

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Speaker 1: We have the reporter who's all over that, a.

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Speaker 2: Female swimmer who was forced to swim with the dude,

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Speaker 1: We have so much tonight, and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Right, all right, Merrick Garland is held in contempt today,

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Speaker 2: it's official. How's held Merrick Garland in contempt of Congress.

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Speaker 2: Now let's talk about what this is and let's talk

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Speaker 2: about what it's not. First, is this a big deal? Well,

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Speaker 2: it depends. That's a terrible way to answer that, because

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Speaker 2: just stay with me. Is it a big deal? Well,

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Speaker 2: there's something that you and I are going to have

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Speaker 2: to get used to. We are going to have to

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Speaker 2: get used to living in a different country than the

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Speaker 2: one we have known and the one our parents have

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Speaker 2: known and our grandparents have known.

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Speaker 1: Essentially, the next twenty thirty.

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Speaker 2: Forty fifty years in America it's not going to look

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Speaker 2: hundred years in America. Did things are changing? They're changing rapidly.

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Speaker 2: And yes, you can argue, oh yeah, they're all bad changes. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'll give you the hat, and most of them are

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Speaker 2: bad changes. But things are changing rapidly. We now live

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Speaker 2: in a country where the Republican nominee for president has

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Speaker 2: been wrongly convicted of felonies and might spend election day

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Speaker 2: in state prison in New York. That's insane. That's the

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Speaker 2: country we live in now. We live in a country

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Speaker 2: from that Sun's laptop that shows Joe Biden is pretty

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Speaker 2: much the head of a political criminal enterprise designed to

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Speaker 2: enrich himself using his office.

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Speaker 1: That's not normal. Okay, so normal, let's focus on that word.

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Speaker 2: Normal isn't what it used to be. We don't have

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Speaker 2: to go back to ancient history. If we rebound to

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Speaker 2: contempt of Congress, that would be a big deal, and

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Speaker 2: it's not.

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Speaker 1: What happened today is a small deal.

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Speaker 2: But honestly, are you surprised this is our politics now?

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Speaker 2: It's all so evil and so corrupt, and we have

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Speaker 2: so many bad people fighting oftentimes other bad people. And

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Speaker 2: it's just crazy that we wake up now and the

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Speaker 2: norms have all changed and they will continue to change

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Speaker 2: in ways that I can't see and you can't see.

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Speaker 2: Things are going to get weird, for lack of a

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Speaker 2: better way to put it. Okay, so the Attorney General

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Speaker 2: has been held in contempt to Congress.

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Speaker 1: What happens next?

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Speaker 2: Jim Jordan joined us while Ago talked about what happens next?

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Speaker 3: You'd have to have a vote on the floor and

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Speaker 3: then it goes and of course you.

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Speaker 1: May wind up in court. You never know how these

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Speaker 4: I don't think Merrick Garlands suddenly going to charge himself.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So is Merrick Garland going to go to prison? No,

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Speaker 2: don't be ridiculous. Is he going to be removed from office?

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Speaker 1: No, of course not.

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Speaker 2: So don't be hoping for that kind of a pound

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Speaker 1: Now, that's it, that's it. Let's give credit where it's due.

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Speaker 2: There is good that comes from this and the House

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Speaker 2: Republicans voting this way, it is good. They did good. No,

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Speaker 2: what is the good that comes from this. If he's

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Speaker 2: then what's the good. Well, Merrick Garland gets to experience pain.

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Speaker 2: And it's important for Communists to experience pain, because that's

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Speaker 2: all they understand. They're religious zealous. They only understand fear

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Speaker 2: and pain being held in contempt of Congress. It is

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Speaker 2: a big enough deal, and it is going to bring

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Speaker 2: about pain and discomfort to Merrick Garland. And because he's

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Speaker 2: an evil piece of Communist trash, he deserves that pain.

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Speaker 2: And the next Democrat age and the one after him

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Speaker 2: the pain Merrick is going to go through now before

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Speaker 1: But it's something, all right.

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Speaker 2: And now let's move past the Merrick Garland thing, because

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Speaker 2: I want you to picture this moment. I want you

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Speaker 1: All right, we're back in the nineteen sixties and John F.

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Speaker 2: Kennedy gets up and gives a speech as president, and

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Speaker 1: It's bunkers right.

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Speaker 2: It's not something you would ever see from a Democrat

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Speaker 2: of Democrats with that. However, this line that Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: is a line that Joe Biden has used some version

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Speaker 1: Eric Swalwell has used it.

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Speaker 2: Media members have used it time and time and time again.

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Speaker 1: Now it has become part of the Democrat.

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Speaker 2: Language that they threaten us with military force.

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Speaker 6: By the way, if they want to take is to

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Speaker 2: So why is that something that they come up with

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Speaker 2: Eric Swalwell threatened to drop nuclear weapons on American people.

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Speaker 2: You can't take on the government. We've got nookes, Joe Biden,

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Speaker 2: all of them every day. Yeah, good luck, We've got

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Speaker 2: f thirty fives. Why does that come out of their

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Speaker 2: mouths because they think about it. Remember, the great story

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Speaker 2: What really drives these people crazy, what bothers them, is

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Speaker 2: communists believe in using power. They always have you get power,

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Speaker 2: you use power to gain more power. So a communists

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Speaker 2: all these bombs, bullets, planes, and they think to themselves, huh,

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Speaker 2: this phrasing, we'll send that thirty fives. It constantly comes

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Speaker 1: These people don't sit.

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Speaker 2: Around thinking about Russia, and gosh, they probably should, because

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Speaker 2: Of course, they're calling it for exercises. They're doing exercises.

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Speaker 1: Hey, just doing some.

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Speaker 2: Exercises over here, just let you know we're here, and

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Speaker 2: I told you this is coming. Last week, we are

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Speaker 7: Do you understand what an escalation that is? Do you

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Speaker 1: That's how he sells himself.

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Speaker 7: He cannot allow American weapons to kill Russians inside of

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Speaker 1: He can't. And now we have submarines that.

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Speaker 1: No, No, I do not.

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Speaker 2: Missile crisis, a Russian sub commander, the commander captain of

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Speaker 1: He ordered it to be deployed. That happened.

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Speaker 2: Do you know that, by the grace of God, his crew,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get a lot of people killed. Man,

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Speaker 1: and I won't even mention. Do you hear this? You

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Speaker 6: Is that going to do anything?

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Speaker 4: So does it frustrate you when you hear that? When

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Speaker 5: And if I don't allow the cross and Nicolls a

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Speaker 3: He blames the current administration.

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Speaker 2: The administration has ordered Border Patrol to open the board.

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Speaker 2: We of course cut the official numbers out today, but

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Speaker 2: Insulting thing in the world when the talking heads come

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Speaker 1: Her latest is you will own nothing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the inflation numbers. Break them down for us. What's

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Speaker 8: All right? So I'll set the stage here. And I

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Speaker 3: Because the data is trash. It's very hard to rely

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Speaker 8: And I always feel like it's when the FED comes

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Speaker 3: What we know is over the.

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Speaker 8: Last four years that reported inflation is up twenty two

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Speaker 1: Eventually it would catch up.

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Speaker 8: But of course we keep letting millions of people into

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Speaker 8: Granted we're just paying for that out of taxpayer dollars

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Speaker 8: So you know, you may see a lot going up,

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jerome pile fed chair talk today about rates and

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Speaker 1: And look, we're all are.

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Speaker 2: Interested now in what this guy has to say because

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Speaker 8: The takeaway is the same as it's always been, which

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Speaker 8: So I don't think that that's going to unleash inflation.

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Speaker 3: We have a lot of that that's.

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Speaker 3: Of that is going to show up after the election.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So tell me this, Carol, when this next fiscal

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Speaker 2: If we don't have Joe Biden in office, can we

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Speaker 8: So there is a growth scenario, but imagine that at

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Speaker 1: And buy the debt.

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Speaker 8: That is monetization of the debt, that is inflationary, that

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Speaker 3: And so that I think is the reality.

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Speaker 8: And it's why I've been warning people that inflation is sticky,

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Speaker 8: And so you don't want to be the person that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Carol for making us smarter again and

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you as always.

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Speaker 2: All Right, one of the things that frustrates me is

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Speaker 2: We have foreigners, wealthy, powerful foreigners who wage open warfare

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to Luke about that in a moment. Before

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Speaker 2: a great cup of coffee, Blackout Coffee.

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Speaker 1: And I already felt good when I drank coffee in

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Speaker 2: I don't like what the left is doing to the country.

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Speaker 2: I hate it as a matter of fact. And it

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Speaker 2: grades on me that you have these super rich guys

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00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: right here in America who live, work and worship here.

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Speaker 1: They were born here, and they spend their money to

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Speaker 1: ruin it here. It blows me away.

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Speaker 2: But that, honestly, it takes second to me to the

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Speaker 2: foreigners who do this. Everyone of course knows the name

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Speaker 2: of George Soros, wasn't born in America, uses his fortune

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Speaker 2: to wreck this country.

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Speaker 1: But everyone knows that name.

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Speaker 2: They don't know others, And there are many, many, many

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Speaker 2: others out there, these foreign born guys who take their

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Speaker 2: fortune and use it to attack our country. It grades

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Speaker 2: on me. You ever heard of Pierre oh Midya. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if I'm saying that right. I don't know

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna American Well, I bet Luke knows how to

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Speaker 2: say it. Joining me now, Luke Rosiah, investigative reporter of

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Speaker 2: the Daily Wire. Luke, this is your story, not mine.

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Speaker 2: That's why we reached out. I wanted you to tell it.

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Speaker 2: The floor is completely yours. Who is this Pierre whatever?

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Speaker 2: His name is, and what's he doing in the country.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Jesse, thanks for having me. You kind of hit

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Speaker 4: the nail on the head. I mean, this is basically

477
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Speaker 4: the new George Soros. George Soros, if you've seen any

478
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Speaker 4: pictures or video of him lately, he's barely barely hanging

479
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Speaker 4: in there. And his son is not really up to

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Speaker 4: the task. I don't think to take over. So Pierro Midiar,

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Speaker 4: he was born in France and he founded eBay. So

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Speaker 4: he was one of these big tech guys, you know,

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Speaker 4: ten years ago, made his billions and he spent about

484
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Speaker 4: two billion dollars plowing them into plowing this money into

485
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Speaker 4: left his politics, and he's kind of gone mostly unnoticed

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Speaker 4: because he's not usually writing campaign contribution checks. He's kind

487
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Speaker 4: of found a more insiduous and probably more effective way

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Speaker 4: to do it, which just fund all these nonprofits that

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Speaker 4: serve as the minor leagues or the farm teams for

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Speaker 4: the White House and the federal government, and so he

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Speaker 4: you know. In September twenty twenty, the Midiar Network issued

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Speaker 4: a call to reimagine capitalism in America, bemoaning structural racism, colonialism, paternalism.

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Speaker 4: It said we needed to build an explicitly anti racist economy.

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Speaker 4: So this is a big guy who's since the election

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Speaker 4: take it over some of the government agencies that basically,

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Speaker 4: you know, have a lot of influence over the economy,

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Speaker 4: specifically the Federal Trade Commission. You know, the left talks

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Speaker 4: about colonizers a lot. That's basically what he's done there.

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Speaker 4: He's come in and planted his people from his various

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Speaker 4: nonprofits and a huge number of key positions, you know,

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Speaker 4: from the chair of the FDC itself to the chief

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Speaker 4: of staff, associate director, chief technology officer, on and on.

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Speaker 4: Similar deal with the Anti Trust division of the DOJ,

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Speaker 4: where the Assistant Attorney General in charge of Anti trust

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Speaker 4: comes from a Midir group, so you know, and on

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Speaker 4: and on with all the top deputies. So again, I mean,

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Speaker 4: this is a group, the AMDIR network, that pledged to

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Speaker 4: commit to the calling Evangela Davis, you know, the communist

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Speaker 4: who was charged with murder and was involved in the

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Speaker 4: Jonestown suicide cult. Just to give you an idea of,

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Speaker 4: you know, kind of where they're coming from here. The

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Speaker 4: other thing to know about Amidir is he really likes

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Speaker 4: to make it seem like basically astroturfing, making it seem

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Speaker 4: like people are saying all this liberal stuff but it's

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Speaker 4: not coming from him. So like when you hear Bill

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Speaker 4: Crystal being like as a Republican you know, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 4: You know he Bill Crystal's bankrolled by peer On Medir.

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Speaker 4: He's funding like evangelicals to say liberal stuff and can

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Speaker 4: try to convince other evangelicals to you know, say, you know,

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Speaker 4: Jesus would be a lib basically same with you know,

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Speaker 4: conservative millennials. So yeah, I mean this Pierr a Medir guy.

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Speaker 4: I mean he's got massive influence in the Biden administration

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Speaker 4: and it's yeah, billionaire just basically buying the government.

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Speaker 2: Okay, can you walk me through how this guy how

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Speaker 2: does he get his people into something like the FTC DOJ.

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Speaker 1: It's not like he can just show up at the front.

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Speaker 2: Door and say this is my cousin, the dirty commie Sarah,

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Speaker 2: please hire her.

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Speaker 1: How does he get his people in.

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Speaker 4: By basically giving them these sinecures, these fake jobs where

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Speaker 4: they write think tank papers and so on, and you know,

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Speaker 4: basically they have then the background of being I'm from

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Speaker 4: this group that's been focusing on this issue. So you know,

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Speaker 4: they try to pretend that they're mostly focused on policy,

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Speaker 4: but it seems to me there's a really politics is

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Speaker 4: lurking not far behind the scenes. A big thing they're

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Speaker 4: focused on is artificial intelligence and breaking up the tech firms,

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Speaker 4: which is interesting because arguably the tech firms like Google

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Speaker 4: and Facebook and TikTok should be broken up. But when

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Speaker 4: you look at the materials from this group, they're basically

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Speaker 4: saying they should be broken up because they weren't liberal

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Speaker 4: enough in the twenty twenty election. You know, they only

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Speaker 4: listened to us our demands to censor like ninety percent

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Speaker 4: of the time when it should have been one hundred

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Speaker 4: and so we're going to basically punish them now. So

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Speaker 4: the government just last week indicated that they're going to

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Speaker 4: pursue these anti trust actions against some of the big

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Speaker 4: tech firms, which is a really big deal. It may

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Speaker 4: or may not be a good idea, but it seems

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Speaker 4: to be done here for the wrong reasons.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: An AI same deal. I mean, that's a pretty big

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Speaker 4: topic right now. We're not talking about some obscure branch

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Speaker 4: of the government. But this guy had this whole nonprofit

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Speaker 4: called AI Now, and they hired the entire staff of

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Speaker 4: his nonprofit and made them advisors at the FTC. So

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Speaker 4: again they had the kind of resume thanks to his

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Speaker 4: money that made them seem like good candidates for a

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Speaker 4: federal job. But then they bring their whole network with

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Speaker 4: them and they're basically their entire background is, you know,

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Speaker 4: funded by this guy. They've got all their friends in

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Speaker 4: the government. And so, you know, I don't think it's

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Speaker 4: illegal or anything what he's doing, but he's extraordinarily successful

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Speaker 4: at it.

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Speaker 2: So they're creating the resume that gives them the credentials

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Speaker 2: that gets them into the government job, so they can

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Speaker 2: destroy what he wants to to destroy. Honestly, it's it's

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Speaker 2: brilliant when you think about it. Do we know Do

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Speaker 2: we know what this guy's acts to grind is with America?

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Speaker 2: He made an eBay fortune, what's his problem?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, America has been pretty good to him. He's an

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Speaker 4: Iranian heritage, he's from his family's from Iran originally, but

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Speaker 4: he was born in France. Then he comes over here,

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Speaker 4: makes his money in Silicon Valley, and now he's ostensibly

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Speaker 4: taking on Silicon Valley. He has some sort of acts

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Speaker 4: to grind against the you know, the place that made

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Speaker 4: him literally a billionaire. But he keeps coming back to

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Speaker 4: and his groups keep coming back to this idea that

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Speaker 4: they didn't censor enough information about coronavirus, misinformation about COVID.

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Speaker 4: I think they wanted us not to hear about things

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Speaker 4: like the lab leaku, which is almost certainly true, but

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Speaker 4: which they were furious about. You know, back arounds is,

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Speaker 4: you know, September twenty twenty that how could these fit?

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Speaker 4: How could Facebook be allowing people to hear about the

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Speaker 4: lab leak? And then you know, same thing with election conspiracies.

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Speaker 4: They're just it seems like really mad that you know,

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Speaker 4: Biden barely squeaked out a win in twenty twenty. Maybe

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Speaker 4: they think his margin should have been wider. If the

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Speaker 4: Facebook and Beta, you know, Google, all these guys would

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Speaker 4: have just had complete obedience to the to the Democrat Party,

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Speaker 4: which I think for us hearing that, it just illustrates

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Speaker 4: how strident this guy's politics are, because to us, it

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Speaker 4: seems almost insane to be like the problem with the

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Speaker 4: tech giants is that they're not liberal enough, Like how

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Speaker 4: far left your politics have to be to think that

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Speaker 4: Google is too conservative?

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Speaker 5: All Right?

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Speaker 1: I don't want to.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to let you go without getting the

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Speaker 2: skinny on this story about George Soros speaking of these

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Speaker 2: foreign billionaires and Soros himself, Pierre Gascott, Pierre Gascon, George

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Speaker 2: Gascon See, I've got the Pierre thing on the mind.

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Speaker 2: George Gascon, LA's DA and elections software.

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Speaker 1: What's all this?

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Speaker 9: Well, so you know, there was a guy basically Gasco,

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Speaker 9: who's a far left sorous back DA brought charges against

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Speaker 9: this election company a couple of years ago, and there

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Speaker 9: was some conservatives who were like, you know, this is good.

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Speaker 1: We think the elections, you know, maybe aren't on the

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Speaker 1: up and ups. This is good that someone's being charged.

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Speaker 4: So when the far left DA was praised by conservatives,

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Speaker 4: it seemed like he suddenly had to do the opposite.

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Speaker 4: So instead of prosecuting this Chinese guide that owns this

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Speaker 4: election company, they wind up dropping the charges and paying

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Speaker 4: him five million dollars for the trouble of having been

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Speaker 4: what they say is wrongfully charged. But they don't really

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Speaker 4: say wrongfully charged. No one has really answered questions about

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Speaker 4: what it was in the indictment that that was not true.

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Speaker 4: Now I'm not saying whether you know, for all, I know,

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Speaker 4: maybe he is innocent, but no one has explained why,

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Speaker 4: and it never really got to play out in court. Instead,

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Speaker 4: they put the prosecutor, the you know, the deputy DA

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Speaker 4: who was.

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Speaker 1: In charge of this.

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Speaker 4: They put him on leave and basically tried to make

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Speaker 4: it seem like he bungled the case. So the development

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Speaker 4: in the story is that now he's been restored to

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Speaker 4: his job, they cleared him. No, there's no indication that

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Speaker 4: he you know, bungled this case and was all made up.

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Speaker 4: So the question now is if the prosecutor didn't do

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Speaker 4: anything bad, why did you drop charges and pay the

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Speaker 4: dude five million dollars for this election thing? So, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it gets into you know, some of this election stuff.

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't think all the stories you hear

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Speaker 4: about election firms are true. But the conduct in this

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Speaker 4: as far as paying this this guy who was even

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Speaker 4: if he was wrongfully charged, you don't typically get paid

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Speaker 4: five million dollars by a prosecutor. So it's pretty interesting

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Speaker 4: to see this play out. You know, when he was arrested,

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Speaker 4: it kind of it wasn't good for the Democrats and

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00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 4: narrative that it's all made up and it was a

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Speaker 4: little nuanced. When Omen was alleging that votes were stolen,

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Speaker 4: it was more about some data potentially going over to China.

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Speaker 4: But anything that was perceived as being helpful to conservatives.

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Speaker 4: I think there's an instinct among these leftist prosecutors that

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Speaker 4: they have to do the opposite of anything conservatives say,

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Speaker 4: and that can make them do some pretty weird things sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt, Luke. I appreciate you as always, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Keep on keeping on.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 2: Remember that UPenn swim team one with a dude on it.

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Speaker 2: It was dominating everybody. One of those swimmers. Paula Scanlan,

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Speaker 2: she's speaking out, she's speaking loudly about what happened to her,

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Speaker 2: what it was like.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to talk to her. She's going to

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Speaker 1: join us next.

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Speaker 2: Before we talked to Paula, maybe the thought of a

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Speaker 2: dude changing in a women's locker room is the kind

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Speaker 1: You see.

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Speaker 2: Beam is right there to help you sleep. But not

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Speaker 2: just like anything else. You see, there's lots of things

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Speaker 1: But you know what they all have in common. You

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Speaker 1: wake up and feel like crap every time. You never

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Speaker 2: Dream Powder is essentially it's hot chocolate, only it's got

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Speaker 2: all kinds of natural stuff in their melowtone and other

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Speaker 2: stuff that just kind of helps you drift off to sleep.

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Speaker 2: And then when you wake up eight nine hours later,

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Speaker 2: you don't feel like your body weighs five hundred pounds

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Speaker 2: and like you're half dead. You wake up feeling great.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that the idea? Want forty percent off forty shop

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Speaker 2: beam dot com.

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Speaker 1: Slash Jesse Kelly is where you go get that.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot to be hopeful about.

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Speaker 10: Actually, when you look at the landscape right now, all

681
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Speaker 10: over the country, lawmakers are standing up for children. They're

682
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Speaker 10: enacting laws such as the Safe Act all over the country,

683
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Speaker 10: legislation that protects kids from irreversible surgeries, hormones and puberty blockers.

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Speaker 10: And even further, these detransitioners are speaking up in a

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Speaker 10: way that they never have before. When Chloe Cole was transitioning,

686
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Speaker 10: there were no people out there to warn her against this.

687
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Speaker 10: She didn't have any major media figures saying this is dangerous,

688
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Speaker 10: don't do this. You know, several years ago we didn't

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Speaker 10: have any high profile advocates for women's spaces and women's sports,

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Speaker 10: and now we have people like Riley Gaines and Paula

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Speaker 10: Scanlon who are so articulate and really standing up in

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Speaker 10: st out.

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Speaker 2: Paula Scanlon, someone should track her down so we can

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Speaker 2: talk to her about all that, and we did, joining

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Speaker 2: me now ambassador for the Independent Women's Forum, former UPenn swimmer.

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Speaker 2: She's one of the ladies who had to swim against

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Speaker 2: that dude who still had a penis, And we're going

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Speaker 2: to talk.

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Speaker 1: To Paula now about that whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Paula, first of all, I'm sorry you had to swim

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Speaker 2: against the dude in college. That freaking sucks. Can you

702
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Speaker 2: please just tell people your story and how all that

703
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Speaker 2: came to be? Go ahead, The floor is.

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Speaker 3: Yours, absolutely first, Thank you so much for having me on.

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Speaker 3: I was a member of the University of Pennsylvania women's

706
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Speaker 3: swim team, or of course I had a normal swimming

707
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Speaker 3: team experience my first year and then the being of

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Speaker 3: my sophomore year, a member of the men's team named

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Speaker 3: Will comes to all of us and says, I identify

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Speaker 3: as a woman, please refer to me with she her pronouns,

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Speaker 3: and I will be joining your team next season. And

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Speaker 3: of course it happened, it gets delayed, and before you

713
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Speaker 3: know it, I'm a senior in college, supposed to be

714
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Speaker 3: the last year of my career in swimming, and he

715
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Speaker 3: joins our team. He quickly breaks all of the records

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Speaker 3: in every event that he swims. He then goes on

717
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Speaker 3: to qualify for end C doubleas which by the way,

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Speaker 3: most people Navy League do not even qualify for the

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Speaker 3: meet at all. And then he went on to become

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Speaker 3: the first ever man to win a women's NC double

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Speaker 3: a title, which she has that photo right there flashing

722
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Speaker 3: before me that as his championship win there. But in

723
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Speaker 3: the experience it was, I mean, it was as crazy

724
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Speaker 3: as it sounds. The administration went to great lengths to

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Speaker 3: silence us. We were told that if we objected to it,

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Speaker 3: that we were the problem, and if we ever spoke

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Speaker 3: out about it publicly, we would never be able to

728
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Speaker 3: get a job. We would be tainted by this for

729
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Speaker 3: the rest of our lives and we would be on

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Speaker 3: the wrong side of history. And finally they told us

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Speaker 3: if we continue to object, please seek psychological services, and

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Speaker 3: they gave us the number for a therapist.

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Speaker 2: So I mean.

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Speaker 3: Us women who object to undressing next to a man

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Speaker 3: six eighteen times per week we had to do this

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Speaker 3: six ft four tall man, and again they told us

737
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Speaker 3: it again. If we objected, we were the problem, and

738
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Speaker 3: no one stood up for us. So I said to

739
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Speaker 3: myself and Riley and much of other girls, if we

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Speaker 3: can't expect them to stand up for us, we had

741
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Speaker 3: to do it for ourselves. And that's why a bunch

742
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Speaker 3: of us are now speaking out about this issue and

743
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Speaker 3: raising awareness to not just on fairness in sports, but

744
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Speaker 3: also the silencing of all of it. Again, we were

745
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Speaker 3: told if we had opinions on this, we should not

746
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Speaker 3: share them publicly, and if we ever did, our life

747
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Speaker 3: would be over.

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Speaker 2: Okay, setting aside just the hebgbi's it gives me to

749
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Speaker 2: realize that all those young women had to change in

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Speaker 2: front of a dude that many times a week. But

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Speaker 2: just set that aside for a moment. That's really grows

752
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Speaker 2: you say. We were told I'm not asking you to

753
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Speaker 2: name names. But who's coming to you and saying these

754
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Speaker 2: things to you? Is it coaches? Is it professors talking

755
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Speaker 2: about just some dirty commy activist on the quad.

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Speaker 1: Who's coming to you and saying shut your mouth or

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Speaker 1: or your life will be ruined?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean I can paint the picture for you

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Speaker 3: very clearly. There was this this day. We got this

760
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Speaker 3: email and said mandatory team meetings. This time, pool stands.

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Speaker 3: Every member of the women's team, you must be there.

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Speaker 3: And our coaches were at this meeting, but they were

763
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Speaker 3: pushed aside into the corner, and they brought in multiple

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Speaker 3: people from the athletic department, so liaisons to the ad,

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Speaker 3: the athletic director. They brought in activists from the LGBTQ Center.

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Speaker 3: They brought in a representative from psychological services. They brought

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Speaker 3: in a bunch of other random administrators that probably shouldn't

768
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Speaker 3: have jobs anyway and are making way too much money

769
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Speaker 3: to do absolutely nothing at all. All of those people

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Speaker 3: were just it was a whole panel. I honestly, I

771
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Speaker 3: didn't even realize there was that many administrators that were

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Speaker 3: available to be sent to this meeting at the time.

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Speaker 3: But of course, you know, you know, college campuses, the

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Speaker 3: bureaucracy of it. They find people, and they brought us

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Speaker 3: a whole panel to try to scare us. And actually

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Speaker 3: after that they would keep sending representatives in the athletic

777
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Speaker 3: department to watch over our meets. They accompanied us on

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Speaker 3: training trips to say we're here to help. They're not

779
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 3: here to help. They're here to say, we're watching you, guys,

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Speaker 3: and we want to make sure our message is loud

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Speaker 3: and clear. And you've heard every single word we've said

782
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Speaker 3: this entire season. Shut your mouth.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm curious you had your senior years swimming

784
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Speaker 2: ruin because some dudes helicoptering across the pool beside you,

785
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Speaker 2: and eventually you've had enough for you decided to speak out.

786
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Speaker 2: Why what prompted that? What was the response like when

787
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Speaker 2: you did it?

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Speaker 3: At the beginning during the season, I was very vocal

789
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Speaker 3: about my opinions of it being unfair, but again, it

790
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Speaker 3: was not met with encouragement. Most people told me that

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Speaker 3: I should be quiet, that it was a privilege to

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Speaker 3: even swim d one in college, which of course it was.

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Speaker 3: It was a privilege, but that should not come with

794
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Speaker 3: being shut down. That should not come with being told

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Speaker 3: you're a horrible person because you're speaking truth, noneth the

796
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Speaker 3: last I mean I again. I struggled with this for

797
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Speaker 3: a long time, but eventually my turning point is this

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Speaker 3: this high school of volleyball player named Peyton McNabb. Not

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Speaker 3: sure if you're familiar with the story, but Peyton was

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Speaker 3: a high school volleyball player in North Carolina. She was

801
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Speaker 3: knocked unconscious by a volleyball hit by a trans athlete

802
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Speaker 3: on the opposing team. So a boy playing on a

803
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Speaker 3: girl's a volleyball team knocked her unconscious completely. She's partially

804
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Speaker 3: paralyzed in her face, and she went on to not

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Speaker 3: be able to play sports at all in college. She's

806
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Speaker 3: now in college. She just finished her this year, and

807
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Speaker 3: she was not able to play sports in college whatsoever

808
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Speaker 3: because of these sustaining injuries. And it was that moment

809
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Speaker 3: when I heard that story. And that was a few

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Speaker 3: months after I had experienced what I did on the

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Speaker 3: University of PENNSYLVANIASIME team. I graduated. At this point Peyton's story,

812
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Speaker 3: I you know, showed up and I was working that

813
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Speaker 3: corporate job that they told me I was going to

814
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Speaker 3: lose if I ever spoke out. I was doing what

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Speaker 3: they wanted me to do. I stayed quiet. I had

816
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Speaker 3: a job, I, you know, was who they wanted me

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Speaker 3: to be. I read story and it brought me to tears.

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Speaker 3: I mean legitimately. I had this moment where I realized, Okay,

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Speaker 3: what I went through is silencing the locker room. It

820
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 3: was uncomfortable, it was awful. All of those things are true,

821
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Speaker 3: but we are now allowing girls and young girls to

822
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Speaker 3: be permanently injured by this. That's not acceptable. And it

823
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Speaker 3: was that moment where I said, if I continue to

824
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Speaker 3: stay quiet on this issue, I felt personal responsibility for

825
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 3: that happening to Peyton because I had an opportunity to

826
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Speaker 3: share what the University of Pennsylvania did to us. Again,

827
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Speaker 3: at this point in time, nobody knew the full truth

828
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Speaker 3: of the great links they went to silence us. Nobody

829
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Speaker 3: knew the full details of how often Thomas was changing

830
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Speaker 3: the locker room with us, and I knew that I

831
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Speaker 3: was part of the problem if I continued to stay quiet.

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Speaker 3: So it was really at that point I just said,

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Speaker 3: I don't care what I might lose, I don't care

834
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Speaker 3: who might call me names if I stand by this,

835
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Speaker 3: I stand by abuse to young girls. And again we

836
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Speaker 3: were college students, We were aware of what was happening.

837
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Speaker 3: But Peyton is a high school student. She's a minor,

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Speaker 3: and you can't stand up for her. I can't call

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Speaker 3: myself a good person.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm glad you did see. Now there's two

841
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Speaker 2: of you on that team with Paul. Good for you,

842
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Speaker 2: PAULA Scammon rooting for you big time. Keep going. All right,

843
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Speaker 2: let's talk about streakers. Someone streaked a baseball field. Don't streak,

844
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Speaker 2: all right, but it is funny when you do.

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Speaker 1: We'll play it in a second. All right, it is

846
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Speaker 1: time to lighten the mood.

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Speaker 2: And you know why they don't show streakers on television

848
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Speaker 2: during games. They don't show streakers on television during games because, well,

849
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Speaker 2: the thinking behind it is if we broadcast this, this

850
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: person's doing it for attention. If we broadcast it, then

851
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: more people are going to do it. And they're not

852
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: wrong about that. But the problem with that is it's

853
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Speaker 2: the Internet age, and there's always somebody videoing it and

854
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: it always gets out. And I don't want you to

855
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 2: ever streak a game or anything like that, but it

856
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: is always funny. The dodging of security is always funny.

857
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Speaker 2: When security finally spears him or chases him. Always funny.

858
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, this is funny. I love how there are

859
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Speaker 2: multiple angles. Just everybody put the phone.

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Speaker 1: That's a nice backflip. I'll see them all