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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on eight

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Oh baby, let's do it live on a victory Monday

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Speaker 2: edition of Cleveland Browns Daily.

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Speaker 3: I am merely Bo. He is the great z. The

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Speaker 3: air is a little fresher, the water's a little crisper.

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Speaker 3: Or back beby.

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Speaker 2: We're back, We're so back. It's look, it's this is

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Speaker 2: what's a binary business?

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Speaker 3: Buy jinx?

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Speaker 4: What a binary business?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And once you know, you could, you would the show

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Speaker 2: that we are doing. If the last three minutes don't

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Speaker 2: turn out the way that they do, could not be

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Speaker 2: more diametrically opposed.

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Speaker 6: We might have to bring in Kansas, just like I

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Speaker 6: asked for at my own Kansas, Little dust in the wind.

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Speaker 4: It's now or not worth so much more than that.

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Speaker 2: Sports are undefeated, man, they just are. It's it was

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Speaker 2: sorts are the best they are. It was a it

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Speaker 2: was a crazy and and honestly so for so many

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Speaker 2: of you out there, if you're watching on television or

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Speaker 2: listen to you guys driving around or whatever.

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Speaker 3: It was last ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: The NFL of the afternoon windows was absolutely bonkers and

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Speaker 2: we were smacked ab in the middle of it with

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Speaker 2: just improbability. But if you think of everything that happeneding

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Speaker 2: and negatively against Cincinnati and the opener, this was the

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Speaker 2: other side of that, and you benefited. And not only

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Speaker 2: did you benefit than you took advantage. And now we

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Speaker 2: have this.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I would even say in this one it

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Speaker 6: was may may make your future. We made this. I mean,

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Speaker 6: in reality, we got the interception. We you know, it

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Speaker 6: wasn't a drop pass that popped into our arms. We

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Speaker 6: went out and got an interception to take away first

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Speaker 6: of the season, first giveaway by Green Bay at the

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Speaker 6: most opportune moment. We then special team Shelby, Harris and

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Speaker 6: Denzel did get a piece of it confirmed. Denzel gets

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Speaker 6: a block, then Shelby gets the big block, and you know,

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Speaker 6: we get on the ball and then we have an

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Speaker 6: unbelievable operation to get ourselves into field goal range, get

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Speaker 6: the spike off.

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Speaker 4: Big shout out to the.

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Speaker 6: Umpire for his hustle and then Andre Schmidt, who the

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Speaker 6: last time he kicked on that field was the goat

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Speaker 6: and not the good goat.

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Speaker 4: You know, yeah, there was for you.

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Speaker 6: We'd have to explain to our children that the goat

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Speaker 6: can be very bad, very bad.

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Speaker 4: Don't want to be the goat. But and then he's

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Speaker 4: the hero.

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Speaker 6: And the mood outside of our booth because we are

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Speaker 6: right there with the best fans in the NFL, the

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Speaker 6: mood outside of our booth for the vast majority of

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Speaker 6: the afternoon was not a joyous mood. No, and in fact,

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Speaker 6: it was angry at times and voicing their frustration rather loudly.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure you were able to hear it on through

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Speaker 6: the television. And then it's pure joy, just absolute jubilation city.

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Speaker 6: It's pure joy. And the Browns won. I thought, I

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Speaker 6: can tell you on the field pregame, I wasn't sure

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Speaker 6: about the the Alpha Dog's uniforms.

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Speaker 4: From the booth.

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Speaker 6: They were beautiful, okay, and on TV I think from

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Speaker 6: the clips I saw, I thought they looked really good

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Speaker 2: So my kids were like wear them all the time.

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Speaker 2: So I'm guessing that is probably music to everybody around.

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Speaker 2: Like they loved it like. It looked awesome. It was

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Speaker 2: the brown is so dark, yeah, menacing no it and

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Speaker 2: I think that they were awesome.

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Speaker 4: They were awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the all white ones looked great too. Last

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Speaker 4: So yeah, there's some options there.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's you know, you think about how fickle

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Speaker 2: that had to happen for our loss to Cincinnati, and

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Speaker 2: then how you made your own breaks in this game.

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Speaker 2: This is the other part of this though, that I

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Speaker 2: But there was what we saw in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 2: of this game in large part because of Quinch Jos Judkins.

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Speaker 2: What he brings you offensively, it gives you a roadmap

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Speaker 2: to me, while you created your own breaks in this game,

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Speaker 2: you created the turnovers, you blocked the kick, but you

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Speaker 2: also had an answer offensively in terms of the guy

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Speaker 2: plays down the field that we didn't make and there

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Speaker 2: duan news and some of the duress that Joe was

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Speaker 2: under offensively because it was pretty real. But quin Shawn

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Speaker 2: you an identity now offensively, like before he got here,

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Speaker 2: before we saw him in regular season games, we missed

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Speaker 2: the opener. Obviously, we're like, how do we go about

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Speaker 2: our business? I use that phrase a lot. How do

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Speaker 2: we go about our business ideally offensively. Now I know

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Speaker 2: how we go about our business ideally offensively, and it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I mean. That's what this team was

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Speaker 6: When you let Nick Chubb go and you say we're

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Speaker 6: bringing in you know, Quinn Shawn Judkins and Dylan Samson,

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Speaker 6: that's what it was going to be. It was going

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Speaker 6: and he brought that to you in that game. Now,

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Speaker 6: the irony is the game that in Week one where

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Speaker 6: eight balls. That was your best offensive performance of the

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Speaker 6: he gives you that dynamic down the field presence and

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Speaker 6: that is something that is certainly exciting, that gives you

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Speaker 6: Now you're going to be a team that I think

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Speaker 6: to be a team that defenses will say job one

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Speaker 6: is stop quin Shawn Judkins, right like that is going

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Speaker 6: a little bit. Let's not let you know, Flacco get

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Speaker 6: going on any explosives, and man, as you said, there

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Speaker 6: are there are many opportunities for explosives in this game.

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Speaker 6: But we now at least have that identity, We have

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Speaker 6: because I think at the end of the day, it's

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Speaker 6: what Kevin Stefanski has always felt the most comfortable having

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Speaker 4: Hang their hat on.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there was Dalvin Cook with him in Minnesota. Nick

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Speaker 6: Chubb here yep, now quinch On here.

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Speaker 2: And the other thing this one does is it allows

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Speaker 2: for our defense to get a little bit of credit. Yes,

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Speaker 2: because if you lose, it's different, right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, if you our defense is playing is the best

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Speaker 6: should be in the discussion right now for a defensive

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Speaker 6: Rookie of the Year. Mason Graham is playing very well.

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Speaker 6: Also Sweassinger keeps this up. He's a pro bowler. I mean,

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Speaker 6: It's three games, but I don't know. And I had

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Speaker 6: that there's anybody playing linebacker better.

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Speaker 4: Oh wait, he should have had two sacks.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, there could be some people equal to him,

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Speaker 2: but in terms of what he's being asked to do,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's an absolute study. So yeah, it allows for

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Speaker 6: that validation. And that's what you know, that's what allows

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Speaker 6: for these talk shows to say, oh, the Browns, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 6: that defense is good. They've shut down. Now it's hard

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Speaker 6: they scored forty one points. Now, they did get a

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Speaker 6: defensive touchdown, but Lamar threw for four touchdowns. But you

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Speaker 6: certainly shut down there running, yes, you did, and really

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Speaker 6: The fourth quarter was just a debacle, and I think

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Speaker 6: the first time since being drafted. You shut down the

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Speaker 6: Bengals in week one in every facet, and then you

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Speaker 6: Josh Jacob's touchdown streak held him to what did he

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Speaker 2: I think he had forty four receiving and maybe like

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Speaker 2: twenty eight rushing. Thirty rushing and forty four receiving. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: thirty yards.

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Speaker 6: Sixteen carries for thirty eight carries for thirty yards were

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Speaker 3: August run was seven yards. I mean he got nothing.

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Speaker 4: Nothing.

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Speaker 6: By the way, it should be pointed out that the

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Speaker 6: game was the Green Bay Packers and quinch On Judkins.

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Speaker 6: No running back can even rush for fifty yards against them.

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Speaker 6: He goes eighteen for ninety four, kids, and.

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Speaker 2: Tell them who they I mean, you think about who

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Speaker 2: they played, yep, and they shut them out green Bay.

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Speaker 3: They got nothing.

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Speaker 2: We went over that last week in terms of running

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Speaker 2: Backs got nothing out of them, and Q went and

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Speaker 2: got ninety four of them. And yeah, so that all

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Speaker 2: of those things, it's just and I go back to

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Speaker 2: the video that's making the rounds of Kevin running off

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Speaker 2: was better than the outside world believed that it would be.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and you certainly.

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Speaker 2: Played better than that in two weeks, but nobody wanted

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Speaker 2: to hear it because you lost. Here's the reality. All

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Speaker 6: the joy and the relief. I think that Kevin Savanski

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Speaker 6: you have to imagine they're they got to they're gonna

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Speaker 3: So that you bring them up.

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Speaker 2: And that is the type of thing that because that

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Speaker 2: And that's the difference of it's still it's still type

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Speaker 4: How about doing that?

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Speaker 2: For sure, it would be nice make people chase it

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Speaker 6: We are, and it is good that people know that.

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Speaker 6: I think it's great to be able to talk some

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Speaker 6: Isaiah Bond runs open down the field a lot. The

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Speaker 6: Joe Fleckel makes that throw, I know ninety five times

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Speaker 6: But we've got to figure a way to get that out.

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Speaker 6: With Flacco and he talked about it after the game,

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Speaker 2: So what you just said, and that's always a word

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Speaker 3: Bond I think it's Bond that's on the flea flicker.

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Speaker 2: Yes, because he went to Fan and Bond is there's

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Speaker 6: So it's a flea flicker that has built into it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So it's a flea flick that has that has

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Speaker 5: Is okay.

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Speaker 6: So it's a it's a flea flicker that's built into it.

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Speaker 6: So this is a screen you see post it's coming out,

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Speaker 2: I think it's got to be that. I think it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's not good.

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Speaker 2: And it there look the Dewan thing, if you're just

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Speaker 2: But so the injury to to Dewan, which is heartbreaking

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Speaker 2: He's just a great kid. He's just a great kid

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't feel like there's enough off quality offensive

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Speaker 2: some of it might just be there aren't enough offensive

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Speaker 2: My hunch is all of those things, Mary. So let's

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Speaker 2: You might go on the blank side because we're gonna

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Speaker 4: The other side, so you can like kind of have like,

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Speaker 3: Okay, would you like a line in between?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a good idea.

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Speaker 6: he was he averaged sixty seven percent completions eight point

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Speaker 5: Of one hundred.

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Speaker 6: Per attempt was what eight point five yards per attempt

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Speaker 4: So that's in.

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Speaker 6: And then here we'll do twenty twenty three as well.

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Speaker 6: From under pressure, which was thirty three percent of the time,

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Speaker 3: Much how much under pressure?

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Speaker 4: How many thirty three percent?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, opposite, yeah, and then what was the completion

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Speaker 6: with just those two and then we're gonna come back

441
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,120
Speaker 6: to a couple other things and we'll kind of see

442
00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 6: where things are not lining up right now. So this

443
00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 6: year clean sixty sixty and a half percent, seventy two

444
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:18,240
Speaker 6: percent completion, only five point seven yards per attempt and

445
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 6: only five point six air yards per attempt, and the

446
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:28,160
Speaker 6: quarterback rating is eighty five under pressure, which is thirty

447
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,359
Speaker 6: nine and a half percent of the time, completion percentage

448
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 6: just forty two percent, three point nine yards per attempt,

449
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 6: eight point seven air yards per attempt, but a rating

450
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 6: of thirty four. So clearly he had an opportunity or

451
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 6: was choosing to throw. Now, he's just our throw percentages

452
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 6: are significantly less down the field than they were before.

453
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 6: Here's another thing just to kind of so play action

454
00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 6: this year off of play action, fifty five percent completions,

455
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 6: four point three yards per attempt, seven point three air

456
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 6: yards per attempt, and a fifty one rating. That's this

457
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 6: year off play action. In twenty twenty three on play action,

458
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 6: and this is where things get start. You start to

459
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 6: see some of what's happening here. He was sixty seven

460
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 6: percent completions, twelve yards per attempt, average depth was eleven

461
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,400
Speaker 6: and a half yards down the field, and the quarterback

462
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 6: rating was one hundred and twenty one point three. Wow,

463
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 6: So we're getting nothing off of the play action game

464
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,360
Speaker 6: right now. And that's even with two games of Judkins

465
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 6: averaging over five yards of carry. Our deep passing is

466
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 6: non existent, no, non existent. And that was kind of

467
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 6: what made up for a lot of what was happening,

468
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,439
Speaker 6: you know, in twenty twenty three. That's how that's how

469
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 6: we did a lot of it. In fact, this might

470
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 6: be a crazy He has already this year almost as

471
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 6: many yards completed on passes behind the line of scrimmage

472
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 6: than he did in all of in two more games

473
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty five, and we have so far on

474
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,919
Speaker 6: passes of more than twenty yards in the air, Flaco

475
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 6: was two for ten, no touchdowns, two interceptions, and a

476
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 6: quarterback rating of eight point seven, whereas in twenty twenty

477
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 6: five he was down the field, we were or twenty

478
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 6: twenty three, I'm sorry, on twenty yards in the air more,

479
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 6: he averaged seventeen point seven yards per attempt, threw four

480
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 6: touchdowns and had a rating of ninety one point five

481
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 6: with an average opotoberher of thirty one yards down the field.

482
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 6: So that we have eliminated really what made Joe Flacco

483
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 6: very good in twenty twenty three was was that level

484
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 6: twenty plus and was ten to nineteen in the air.

485
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 6: Now in he averaged ten yards in attempt one hundred

486
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 6: and six rating, five touchdowns, two pay fourteen yards on

487
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 6: ten to nineteen. Those two depths are really not really

488
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 6: kind of happening for us right now, and so that

489
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 6: is that's making everything be below. He has more yards

490
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 6: on throws right now that are short of ten yards

491
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 6: in the air than over ten yards in the year,

492
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 6: whereas in twenty twenty three it was the complete opposite.

493
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 6: The bulk of his yardage came from In fact, it

494
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 6: was that year it was eleven hundred and thirty one

495
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 6: to seven hundred and ninety two eleven and thirty one

496
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 6: on pass They came from passes more than ten yards

497
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 6: in the year. Where's this year more of his yards

498
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 6: are coming on passes under ten yards a year, where

499
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 6: it was in particular, basically three for every two.

500
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 4: We're over ten yards in the air.

501
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 6: So that's the numbers tell you, what your eyes are

502
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 6: telling you and what the tape tells you. And so

503
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,959
Speaker 6: what we've got to figure out is number one, how

504
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 6: do we give him the time to get the ball

505
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 6: down the field that he feels comfortable with? And how

506
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 6: do we like the depth of target on the play

507
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 6: action isn't even there. We're just our play action is

508
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 6: kind of non existent. Whereas that was the chunks, that

509
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 6: was the shots. Those are gone. And he's also not

510
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 6: the Drew Brees rhythm, you know, short passing guy, and

511
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 6: so we're kind of caught in a tough spot right

512
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 6: now with this offense because things are not operating necessarily

513
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 6: the way that we want them to be operating, and

514
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 6: we're not able to take advantage of what's going on.

515
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you know, and so much of that, I mean,

516
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 3: part of that, the.

517
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 4: Pressure numbers aren't all that different.

518
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:35,239
Speaker 5: They are.

519
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 2: It is more this year, it's more, it's more he's

520
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 2: two years older. And you know the other part of

521
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 2: it is, I mean, I just was curious to see,

522
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 2: but it was really just.

523
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 3: The one game with a Mari where he went nuts,

524
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 3: because what did he start?

525
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 4: He threw over three hundred yards zone every game.

526
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: No, I know, and I was trying to think if

527
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 2: there was a correlation with Amari, like did he just

528
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: see the field like with a Mari. But it was

529
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: really that only that Texans game where they went nuts

530
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 2: gaven To.

531
00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 4: Joko had two one hundred yard games.

532
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 2: In those I had four for one oh nine and

533
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: then he had the eleven for two sixty five. He

534
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 2: had a seven for seventy seven. First game, it was

535
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 2: three for thirty four in the loss of the Rams,

536
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: but it was I mean, it's good games for Amar

537
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 2: for sure, and it was down the field stuff that

538
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: Amari hadn't really done much else.

539
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know what it is that it is.

540
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:19,959
Speaker 3: Here's what I do know.

541
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 2: It's better to figure it out with a win and

542
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 2: then you can have conversations about it. One more thing

543
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: that we have to acknowledge before we get out of here,

544
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 2: and that is mister Andre schmidt.

545
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 6: Incredible story, and obviously there were It was always kind

546
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 6: of presented to me is that he had been going

547
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 6: through a lot of personal stuff and that he would

548
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 6: talk about it when it was time to talk about it.

549
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 6: And obviously we learned about it following this game. With

550
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 6: the tragic passing of his mother and how that weighed

551
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 6: on him. And I'll tell you what, I give the

552
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 6: Browns a lot of credit because it was very easy

553
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 6: to second guess that decision to keep going with him

554
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 6: after he was going to be pulled after this after

555
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 6: the Bengals game, and yet he comes back with a

556
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 6: perfect game in Baltimore and then to hit this fifty

557
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 6: five yarder.

558
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 4: And that's why I said on this is why sports

559
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 4: are the best. You can't you.

560
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 6: Can't write stories or moments or emotions like that. And

561
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 6: he makes the kick. Rex Sunahara and Greg Newsom run

562
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 6: to him, carry him down, hop him into the Dog

563
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 6: Pound in the fortieth anniversary of the Dog Pound, and

564
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 6: fans are all over him. I mean that, no matter

565
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 6: what happens in the rest of Andre Schmidt's career, he'll

566
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 6: have that moment, much like and it wasn't obviously the

567
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 6: career that I hope that his career goes on a

568
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 6: better trajectory than Kid's, but like Kid will always have

569
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 6: the kick in Carolina like that is oh yeah, always

570
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 6: an unbelievable moment. Now to do it in your home

571
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 6: stadium and to get carried up there into the crowd

572
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 6: and to have that moment and that jubilation, It is

573
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 6: awesome and I give him so much credit to just

574
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 6: go out there and do it.

575
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 4: And it was weird. I don't know, you know, Ciciliana

576
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 4: is gonna be joining us? Am I right about that?

577
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 4: I don't believe so, No, I'm not right about that.

578
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 3: About that.

579
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 4: Well, he's here. I'd be curious to see what he says.

580
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 4: But I'll ask.

581
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 6: Him, all right, because he's got the gator right thing.

582
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 7: He's waiting.

583
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 6: He is back in there, all right, they ask a

584
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 6: Siciliano back there. I really felt like he was gonna

585
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 6: make it. It wasn't even like I was even nervous about it.

586
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 4: I just like it.

587
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 6: I was like, he's gonna make it. It just felt like, ye,

588
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 6: too much of a story. It just was the way

589
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 6: this game played out at the end. I kind of

590
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 6: put myself sometimes in those situations, like in the mind

591
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 6: of a Packers fan, Yeah, and a Packers fani be like,

592
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 6: of course he's gonna make this kick, Like how are

593
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 6: we gonna blow this game?

594
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 8: Right?

595
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 9: Right?

596
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 8: Right?

597
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 3: I was more nervous on the extra point.

598
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 10: If I was too, Yes, I was very nervous on

599
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 10: the extra If you miss the extra point, then you're

600
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 10: you're Week one all over again.

601
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 5: Right.

602
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 6: Well, I even talked about on the brocketting and like,

603
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 6: all right, do you go for two?

604
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, you did say that, do you go for two?

605
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 6: Because it's either gonna end with them kicking field goal,

606
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 6: which because we blocked it and it ended up somehow

607
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 6: with us kicking the field goal. But typically they kind

608
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 6: of say in these situations, if you know the other teams,

609
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 6: the better team, go in it. Go in it with

610
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 6: a two point you have one play from the two

611
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 6: yard line, like to try to let's condense the game

612
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 6: to that right now. Obviously they we STI would had

613
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 6: an opportunity get the field goal, and the block would

614
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 6: have been even more dramatic.

615
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 4: But that was kind of where my I was. You

616
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 4: had to think.

617
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 6: About it because of that that very reason. But then

618
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 6: he put that through.

619
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 4: And then man, pandemonium palaces.

620
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 8: Yea.

621
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 10: As the great nev Chandler would say, five team in

622
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 10: the house, I would say I would say this as well.

623
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 10: And I'm kicking myself, so to speak, because I paid

624
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 10: too much attention on the flag. I didn't see the

625
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 10: d line jump necessarily, so I'm like, oh boy, the

626
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 10: kick it's up, but there's a there's a flag there.

627
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 3: They were off side, so.

628
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,479
Speaker 10: Even if he missed it, he would have had a

629
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 10: second shot. I'm just glad he didn't have to go there,

630
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 10: but like he would have had a shot from fifty,

631
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 10: he would have had a shot.

632
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 3: There was built in redemption there.

633
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 10: That's awesome if you missed the first one and he

634
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 10: didn't didn't need it.

635
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: From your guys's perch too, like you get this incredible thing.

636
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: And I when people ask me, like you've been in

637
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: all sorts of places, where do you like to watch

638
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: a game from?

639
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 3: I always say press box. I love press box, especially

640
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 3: if it's somewhere near me.

641
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 4: Ar booth is an.

642
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 3: It's open.

643
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: So that's what I was getting to because basically you

644
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: are You're sitting there and there's a little bit of

645
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: a gladiator feel to it, right like you can hear

646
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: the natives restless or as you mentioned, angry, and then

647
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: it flips. For those who stayed, it flipped and you

648
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: go from despair to adulation and pandemonium in a matter

649
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: of a couple of minutes. And it's hard to even

650
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: make We've had it happen to us, right with the

651
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 2: Jets game, remember Joe on the other side of it,

652
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: and we were going like there's no, you can't. It's

653
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 2: impossible to lose that game. Impossible, and it does. And

654
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: then the other side of it with the with the

655
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: Donovan game against the Ravens with Kyle Hamilton like sports

656
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: are the best, man, Yeah, it's the best. Yeah, there's

657
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: nothing else, It doesn't make sense.

658
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 10: It was fifty best minutes of frustration in four minutes

659
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 10: and miracles.

660
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and that's that's all you need.

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Speaker 2: Hey, fellas, fifty five yarder wasn't a chippy no, no,

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Speaker 2: he banged a fifty five yarder.

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Speaker 3: That was good from sixty five.

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Speaker 10: It's day in which like the kicker pendulum kind of

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Speaker 10: swung yesterday from oh yeah, sixty four yards right, yeah,

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Speaker 10: these are gimmes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, these guys are robots.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 10: To all of a sudden yesterday, like you had that crazy,

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Speaker 10: that crazy stretch with our block hour make the two

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Speaker 10: blocks in Philly.

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Speaker 2: Dude, it all happened within five minutes of real time.

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Speaker 2: So I had it on red zone. I had our

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Speaker 2: game on mainscreen, and then red Zone had the others

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Speaker 2: and they were bounced.

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Speaker 3: It was block, block, block block. In five minutes.

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Speaker 2: The Tampa Jets block the two blocks in Philly our

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Speaker 2: block like all things, all of those happened in a five.

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Speaker 10: Aaron Glenn's celebration was right like. It looked like Taylor

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Speaker 10: Trommel right out of God.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good, drop right there.

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Speaker 3: It was awesome. It's great NFL delivered to the big beach.

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Speaker 3: Joy all right, buddy, good seeing you.

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Speaker 11: Injuries Duane Jones. His injury will require surgery, so he's

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Speaker 11: out for the season, which is disappointing for the young man.

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Speaker 11: So he'll battle back, he'll rehab and he'll be ready

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Speaker 11: to roll, but disappointed for him the game itself, obviously,

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Speaker 11: like we talked about yesterday, the effort for sixty minutes,

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Speaker 11: all sixty minutes were required, and really pleased with how

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Speaker 11: the guys fought and hung in there and endured and

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Speaker 11: were resilient, and then you come away with a win

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Speaker 11: versus a really good football team. So we're spending time

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Speaker 11: today learning from that win, things that we can do better,

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Speaker 11: and then.

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Speaker 5: We'll move on to Detroit here shortly. With that, I'll

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Speaker 5: take any.

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Speaker 12: Questions, Yeah, Kevin, can you give us any details? Does

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Speaker 12: he have a torn acl or what happened with Dwand.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't have all those specifics, Mary Kay, but

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Speaker 11: it's a knee injury with it disappointing.

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Speaker 12: And can you i mean, just how well was Dwine

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Speaker 12: starting to come along and how much were you guys

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Speaker 12: really kind of counting on him to lock down that

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Speaker 12: left tackle position this season?

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Speaker 11: Obviously a young player that was getting better in played

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Speaker 11: right in the last game obviously for those plays before

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Speaker 11: he was injured, but he's played on both sides.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, disappointed overall for.

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Speaker 11: The young man, but he's somebody that will continue to

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Speaker 11: work and now he's just going to have to focus

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Speaker 11: on his rehabit.

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Speaker 13: But disappoint him two Quickie's number one. What's the status

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Speaker 13: of Conkline this week?

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Speaker 7: Kevin?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll see.

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Speaker 11: I'd say it's well day to day, so we'll see

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Speaker 11: how he's feeling as each day goes by.

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Speaker 5: But he's progressing.

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Speaker 13: My other questions about Huntington, he looks like such a

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Speaker 13: weapon offensive league, wondering could you enlarge his role beyond

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Speaker 13: short yardage play potentially?

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Speaker 11: You know, we with our players, were always looking for

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Speaker 11: guys that can do different things and have versatility, and

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Speaker 11: he's playing good defense for us Tony. He's making a

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Speaker 11: contribution on special teams and obviously he's making a contribution

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Speaker 11: on offense as well. So with young players, you always

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Speaker 11: want to bring them along, but there's we're always looking

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Speaker 11: for guys that can give you versatility.

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Speaker 14: Hey, Kevin, with on that play that Dowan got hurt,

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Speaker 14: did the guy go low?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 14: Is that supposed to be a penalty?

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Speaker 11: You know, we'll turn that in for their interpretation of

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Speaker 11: that you're not allowed to go low.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 11: I don't believe that their player was intending to hurt

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Speaker 11: our player. I know that's not the case. But we'll

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Speaker 11: turn that into the league and find out what they say.

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Speaker 14: And I know Jack's availability has a role in this,

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Speaker 14: but how do you proceed going to tackle either way

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Speaker 14: without do want.

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Speaker 5: Just work with the guys we got and have a

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Speaker 5: plan and get him ready?

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Speaker 14: I mean, would it would it still be Cornelos and

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Speaker 14: KT's the two top guys you think?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? All things that we have to work through.

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Speaker 15: Thank Kevin Andres shared with us his story about about

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Speaker 15: his mom. My question is how difficult is that for

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Speaker 15: players to block things out like that? And how as

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Speaker 15: you as a head coach, can can you help guys

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Speaker 15: with those situations?

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Speaker 5: Well, I hope so can help them.

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Speaker 11: But man, uh, you know you just as you know Jeff,

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Speaker 11: everybody's you're always going through something in life, and everybody's

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Speaker 11: got things going on, and a lot of times we don't.

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Speaker 5: Know what people are going through and and.

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Speaker 11: Uh, but always with our players, whatever they're going through,

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Speaker 11: you try to be there for them all the time.

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Speaker 11: And that was something you know that happened during the

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Speaker 11: summer and reached out to Andre and obviously then we

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Speaker 11: got back together at training camp. But he's he's a

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Speaker 11: he's a resolute young man and really proud of how

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Speaker 11: he came through, uh for that team yesterday, and he's

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Speaker 11: been through a lot, like we've talked about.

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Speaker 15: I guess that's what I ask and you how of

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Speaker 15: course you can, But how do you to develop those

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Speaker 15: close relationships with players that really have nothing to do

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Speaker 15: with on field strategy?

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Speaker 11: Well, I think that's our job as coaches, certainly our

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Speaker 11: job in this building with the resources we have, we

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Speaker 11: want to be available to our players all the time,

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Speaker 11: and we care about the people. You want players to

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Speaker 11: play well on Sunday, you better care about the person.

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Speaker 11: And you know, it's nothing, it's not complicated in that

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Speaker 11: we just want to make sure that we're there for

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Speaker 11: our players.

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Speaker 16: Hey, Kevin, just thinking about the performance that you guys

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Speaker 16: got from that d line yesterday. How key do you

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Speaker 16: think it was? That pressure was coming from so many guys,

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Speaker 16: so many different plays. It wasn't like one person just

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Speaker 16: necessarily dominating.

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Speaker 11: Well, I think that's a testament to that group. Actually,

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Speaker 11: I think the talent from everybody out there.

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Speaker 5: We feel like everybody can win.

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Speaker 11: As you know, Miles Garrett gets a lot of attention,

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Speaker 11: so there are opportunities for other guys to win, and

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Speaker 11: when they do want to slide to him or bring

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Speaker 11: a tight end to him, or bring a running back

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Speaker 11: to him, Miles can still win in those situations as

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Speaker 11: we've seen, but it does free other guys up to

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Speaker 11: have that one on one matchup or you know, run

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Speaker 11: a game with another player and win, so they all

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Speaker 11: play together. But having a deep group there allows us

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Speaker 11: also to stay fresh throughout those games.

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Speaker 16: Miles was going to be my follow up because you

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Speaker 16: know there's screen grabs and stuff going around of him

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Speaker 16: having you know, three guys trying to block him back.

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Speaker 16: It looks like at one point one of the tackles

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Speaker 16: had an arm around his neck yesterday and he still

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Speaker 16: got home for that half a sack. Like, is there

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Speaker 16: anything at this point for you as a coach that

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Speaker 16: you see these opposing offenses due to Miles that surprises

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Speaker 16: you in any way.

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Speaker 11: No, I wouldn't say surprised, Ashley. It's every team goes

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Speaker 11: into playing us and says we have to have a

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Speaker 11: plan for number ninety five, And like we talked about,

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Speaker 11: it can be sliding to them all the time. It

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Speaker 11: can be making sure there's a tight end over there

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Speaker 11: run him back. That you know is their prerogative what

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Speaker 11: they want to do. I guess the point is he

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Speaker 11: plays through all that and we use him in variety

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Speaker 11: of ways and then it does the impact that it

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Speaker 11: has on the other players. It's why he's the defensive

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Speaker 11: Player of the year. Just for perpetuity in my opinion.

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Speaker 17: Hey, Kevin, just for a guy like Shelby Harris with

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Speaker 17: what he's able to do on special teams with the

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Speaker 17: kick block and everything. Twelve year veteran, how much does

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Speaker 17: that prolong at guy's career being able to have a

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Speaker 17: skill like that.

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Speaker 11: Well, I think that was number six for him in

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Speaker 11: his career. So yeah, it's a real thing. Talking about

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Speaker 11: preventing points in that skill and also the ability to

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Speaker 11: do it when batting down passes, So.

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Speaker 5: It's definitely a tool in his toolbox.

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Speaker 11: Not a lot of guys have the ability or the awareness,

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Speaker 11: to the savviness to do that, the strength, the length,

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Speaker 11: all those things, so it's very impressive.

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Speaker 17: And then just with Bond, it seems like him and

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Speaker 17: have developed a nice rapport despite him being here for

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Speaker 17: just a month. Just what have you thought of his

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Speaker 17: development so far?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think he's had an increased role and in

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Speaker 11: terms of reps in each of these games, and I

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Speaker 11: think that will continue. Again, young player like you mentioned,

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Speaker 11: and then it takes some time. It takes some time

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Speaker 11: to rhythm up with the quarterback, to rhyth them up

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Speaker 11: with the offense.

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Speaker 5: To his credit, this.

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Speaker 11: Is a very very very intelligent young man, So we

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Speaker 11: can really use him in a variety of ways and

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Speaker 11: locations if you will. But those young players, over the

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Speaker 11: course of a season, you do oftentimes see that role expand.

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Speaker 17: And then just will the compliments this week continue and

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Speaker 17: just what did what was the mode last week of

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Speaker 17: just doing that and having everybody compliment each other.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's a great question. Joe we'll see ken.

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Speaker 18: Going back to Andre for a second, we've seen the

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Speaker 18: roller coaster that it can be for a kicker in

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Speaker 18: the NFL this season, not just with your team, but

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Speaker 18: we've already seen, you know, both sides of things with

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Speaker 18: Andre in his first three games. So for you kind

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Speaker 18: of thinking introspectively, like what does it say about the

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Speaker 18: position in the league, both on the individual level for

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Speaker 18: the kicker and for you guys trying to find consistency

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Speaker 18: at that position.

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Speaker 11: Well, I think the big thing there, Cam is rookie

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Speaker 11: kickers sometimes you'll miss a kick, you'll miss an extra point.

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Speaker 11: I think the numbers will probably bear that out. You

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Speaker 11: want everybody to be perfect right away, but it's just

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Speaker 11: how the position works. So we have confidence in this

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Speaker 11: young kid. I get to see him every day, like

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Speaker 11: I've told you guys, I watch him kick and practice,

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Speaker 11: I watch how he hits the ball in the games,

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Speaker 11: and you know, we're confident in his ability.

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Speaker 18: Talked to his kicking coach, Andrew's kicking coach, and a

883
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 18: couple Hall of famers about what it takes to be

884
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 18: go from a good kicker to a great kicker to

885
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 18: an elite kicker, and they said one of the big

886
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 18: things is really just the mental part, sticking to the

887
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 18: process and leaning on your teammates. And I know he's

888
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 18: got Corey in there for Andre in particular as a rookie, Like,

889
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 18: what does that look like for him? How have you

890
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 18: seen him maybe lean on the coaches, lean on his

891
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 18: teammates in those moments.

892
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think again, greatest team sport there is. I know,

893
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 11: a lot of the spotlight comes on you when you're

894
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 11: attempting to kick or you're the quarterback or whatever it is,

895
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 11: and but we realize this is a team game, and

896
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 11: you know, we need everybody to come through in those moments.

897
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 11: So it's never gonna be about one person, and we'll

898
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 11: support our teammates always.

899
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 9: Hey, Kevin, I wanted to ask about the late game

900
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 9: sequence where you're hurrying to spike the ball and time

901
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 9: to give Andre that chance to kick the ball. We

902
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 9: see every practice of training camp, so we see that

903
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 9: you guys work on that, But during the season, I mean,

904
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 9: how often are you kind of drilling that to stay prepared?

905
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, and this is not every team does this,

906
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 11: but we work a lot of situations throughout training camp,

907
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 11: and then Fridays are when we do a two minute

908
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 11: drill competitively offense versus defense. Then we do a two

909
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 11: minute walk through on Saturdays, and the offense and the

910
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 11: defense separately cover a lot of those situations every Saturday.

911
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 11: So those are things that are just and again I

912
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 11: believe this is true of all thirty two. You just

913
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 11: you hit those situations every week.

914
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 8: Got you?

915
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 9: And I wanted to ask a separate question about Joe.

916
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 9: I mean, there's some stats out there that show that

917
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 9: you know, he has like a like a eight eight

918
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 9: quarterback rating or eight passer rating when pressured.

919
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 5: We know, and you said it yourself.

920
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 9: It's not just on Joe, But what more can you do,

921
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 9: especially for someone who you know, not knows fleet of foot,

922
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 9: doesn't have, you know, elite mobility, to try to make

923
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 9: things easier from and give them those clean pockets.

924
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's that's our job as coaches is to design

925
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 11: game plans that allow our guys to have success. Obviously,

926
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 11: with the passing game, you want to your quarterback to

927
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 11: be clean and be able to make those decisions from

928
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 11: clean pockets as much as you can.

929
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 5: But that's really that's our focus.

930
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 12: Yeah, Kevin, just wondering what gives you confidence that Joe

931
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 12: and this passing offense can kind of get on track

932
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 12: and get rolling here as you move forward.

933
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 11: Yeah, we just have to stay on top of it,

934
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 11: Mary Kay, And I think you see throughout the course

935
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 11: of a season, units, offense, defense, special teams, units can

936
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 11: improve throughout the season. I think there's things that we

937
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 11: are doing better now than we were doing in Week one.

938
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 11: I think there's still things that we can improve upon,

939
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 11: and that's our focus.

940
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 13: Two quick ones again, going back to that spike play.

941
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 13: You credit the center for getting them together or was

942
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 13: it the quarterback who got them together so quickly?

943
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 11: Well, as we teach it, Tony, you know, the first

944
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 11: part is the player with the ball getting down immediately

945
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 11: and then standing up and handing the ball to the center,

946
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 11: not throwing it. The center is allowed to then look

947
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 11: to the side judge where.

948
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 5: The ball is spotted. He can spot the ball.

949
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 11: You have to then make room, let the umpire touch

950
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 11: the ball and then be set for one count. And

951
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 11: you have to be in a legal formation out you know,

952
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 11: the receivers on the ball. Every player has to be

953
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 11: face some forward. So those are all the things that

954
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 11: we work on. But you see it around the league

955
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 11: the centers nowadays do a great job of they spot

956
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 11: the ball. They look to the sideline and spot the

957
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 11: ball in that play.

958
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 19: Yeah, and yesterday's game reminded me so much of your

959
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 19: win against the forty nine ers two years ago. They

960
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 19: came in undefeated of six week of the season. Purdy

961
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 19: was going crazy and your defense stopped him. It turned

962
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 19: out that game kind of altered that season because you

963
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 19: end up winning four out of five immediately after that game.

964
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 19: Do you believe in games can alter a season, even

965
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 19: this early in the season.

966
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 11: I try not to think about it that way, Tony.

967
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 11: I just I'm probably the wrong person to ask. It's

968
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 11: a good question, but you probably asked somebody else. I'm

969
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 11: I got the blinders on.

970
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 5: Okay, Hey, Kevin, I got two.

971
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 14: How do you balance you know, protecting your defense and

972
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 14: putting in good spots and punting versus getting two conservative offensively?

973
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, we have to score points.

974
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 11: You don't want to just constantly put your defense in

975
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 11: those positions. So are our job as an offense is

976
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 11: to end drive every drive with a kick and presumably

977
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 11: a pat if you know, that's your number one goal.

978
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 11: But that's you know, that's that's our focus on our

979
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 11: offense and.

980
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 14: Then at the end of the half, what went in

981
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 14: the decision not to try a real long field goal

982
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 14: versus trying to throw it up there at the end.

983
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, the first half, Yeah, thought about it.

984
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 11: Just felt like that was too long of a field

985
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 11: goal with the amount of time left where that put

986
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 11: the ball at the spot of the field goal, as

987
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 11: you know, So just didn't feel like that was the

988
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 11: right thing to do in that moment, and you know,

989
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 11: took a shot there and obviously, you know, the the

990
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 11: risk is that it's incomplete and they get the ball

991
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 11: for a Hail Mary, but understood that in the moment.

992
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:44,880
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Speaker 2: the Twisted Tea Hotline by one of the heroes of

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Speaker 2: the game yesterday, the great Shelby Harris, great friend of

1012
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 2: the program, always in a good mood and especially on

1013
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: a victory Monday. Buddy, when your paw met that football,

1014
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: what's running through your head?

1015
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, this is the way it hit mine into my

1016
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 8: hand and I it just bounce. I'm just hoping for,

1017
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 8: you know, a scoop and score. You know, it just

1018
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 8: it just felt. You know, it's one of those ones

1019
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 8: where it actually you know, hit the pall in my

1020
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 8: hand and then just hit my fingers where you know,

1021
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 8: obviously it's going backwards now, so now it's an opportunity

1022
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 8: to really make a playoff of it. You know, we

1023
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 8: saw that gradually on athletics, so then you know, and

1024
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 8: just so then it's just it's just a really cool

1025
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 8: you know, it's just that's just what happens when you

1026
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 8: know we played team football.

1027
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 6: You guys most certainly did that and shall be I mean,

1028
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 6: what is this number six for you?

1029
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 4: Is that right? Did I have that right? I hope

1030
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 4: I did six blocks?

1031
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1032
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 4: Your career? Okay, so I did.

1033
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 6: How in the world? Okay, you're six too, Okay, and

1034
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 6: I know you've got hot there's no doubt you can

1035
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 6: do this. Three three you're going off going off of

1036
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 6: pro football reference on the high I apologize for that.

1037
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 6: Let me see if my boards have right, well my

1038
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 6: board or we'll be updated going forward.

1039
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 4: To six to three before you, Shelby.

1040
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 3: But how did you do this?

1041
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 6: I mean, there are people that don't block kicks in

1042
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 6: their career. This is now six of them for you.

1043
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 6: It's like it's unbelievable. What's what's the secret to that success?

1044
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 8: You know, it really starts off honestly, and like the

1045
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 8: truth about it is you got to have somebody right

1046
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 8: next to you that's willing to push the pile, like

1047
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 8: push the pile you know what I mean, and like, yeah,

1048
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 8: and that's why I've I've always been very you know,

1049
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 8: blessed people that are like that work hard on field

1050
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 8: goal block because you know, I've always taken it as

1051
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 8: your field goal block unit is a reflection of your defense.

1052
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 8: How hard your field goal block unit goes is a

1053
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 8: reflection of your defense and the pride that your defense

1054
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 8: takes in itself. So you know, so then so then

1055
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 8: that starts, you know, with the you know, the guy

1056
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 8: next to me and then the league. You know, it

1057
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 8: isn't even just with Malif right next to me. We

1058
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 8: would talk about it. We knew we had an opportunity

1059
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 8: to go get it, and it's just, you know, it's

1060
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 8: just really crazy how it all. You know what happened.

1061
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 8: It's like, honestly, it's it's really crazy because because literally

1062
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 8: like I'm walking on the fields and like that, you know,

1063
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 8: makes something that you know, make it happen, and did

1064
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 8: it happen, didn't happen? You know it It was just

1065
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 8: it is, you know it. It was it was cool.

1066
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 6: Were you aware in the aftermath of the game that

1067
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 6: right around the time that you did it, there was

1068
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 6: a block kick that was taken back for a touchdown

1069
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 6: by the Jets. A block kick, and this is a

1070
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 6: this is a big guy block kick where Jordan Davis

1071
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,720
Speaker 6: blocks it in Philadelphia and runs it to the house.

1072
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 6: That there were and they blocked another one in that game,

1073
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 6: But there were three within two minutes of each other

1074
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 6: blocked kicks around the league by the big fellas in

1075
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 6: the middle.

1076
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 8: And that's how it was done. You know, those plays

1077
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 8: matters exactly. Those plays win games, you know what I mean.

1078
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 8: And that's what you got to do. That's how you

1079
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 8: got You got to make a play whereb you can

1080
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 8: you know, I mean, if it's on defense. You know

1081
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 8: I love on pescial teams. Whenever you're number called, you

1082
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 8: got to go make a play.

1083
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 2: And Shelby, as you know, in this league, it ain't

1084
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 2: always fair. Sometimes you play great and the ball doesn't

1085
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 2: bounce your way and you take an L. You guys

1086
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: have been playing elite defense for three weeks, three straight games.

1087
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 2: Everybody knew this defense was going to be one of

1088
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: the strengths of this team, and it has been. It's

1089
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: the best unit in the NFL.

1090
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 3: But if you.

1091
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 2: Don't do that and you're sitting here with an L

1092
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: this all feels so different, and you don't get the

1093
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 2: chance to celebrate what was what has been really historic

1094
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 2: defensive performances for the first three weeks, but especially I mean,

1095
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 2: you guys gave the Packers nothing, nothing, and because you

1096
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 2: guys were able to do that, and because Schmid's able

1097
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 2: to hit the kick, now we get to celebrate it.

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Speaker 3: What type of thing? What does that do?

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Speaker 2: Because you can go out there and perform and do

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Speaker 2: everything right, but sometimes you don't get the result.

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Speaker 3: This time you did.

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Speaker 8: I guess you never know, because you know, the you know,

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00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 8: the cool bar about football is not over until the

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Speaker 8: clockets zero, you know, and like we like as we've

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Speaker 8: seen this week, we've seen you know, crazy stuff happen,

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Speaker 8: and we've seen crazy plays, and you know that that

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00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 8: actually is a testament to this team's heart, you know,

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00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 8: like you know, that game wasn't necessarily our favorite, most

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Speaker 8: of that game and until the end, you know, we're

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Speaker 8: out there, fighting, fighting on every phase. And so that

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Speaker 8: right there, that that shows you what this team is

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Speaker 8: made of and what this team is about.

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Speaker 6: Shelby, what is it like being in this defensive line room?

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Speaker 6: That is, in my opinion anyway, the best in the

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00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 6: NFL and and might quite frankly be one of the

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00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 6: best of all time. What is it like being in

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00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 6: that room and knowing that when you guys go out there,

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00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 6: you guys have taken three really good offenses and neutralized

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Speaker 6: them at the point of attack.

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Speaker 8: That's what we ply ourselves on, you know, the play

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00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 8: d line. You have to be a little bit different.

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00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 8: You have to be a little bit full of yourself.

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Speaker 8: You have to have to, you know, want to be great.

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Speaker 8: And every every guy in our room wants to be great,

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Speaker 8: and we work at it every day. And there's there's

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Speaker 8: no egos everybody and that's and that's everyone actually likes

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Speaker 8: each other. Everyone gets long, there's no egos. Everybody's working

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Speaker 8: with each other trying to get better. And and it's

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Speaker 8: it's perfect because everyone has a different game and it's

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Speaker 8: it's it's just the way everything's constructed. It's perfect because

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Speaker 8: everyone can bounce ideas off of each other. We can

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Speaker 8: work on on the practice field. You know, you're just

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00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 8: seeing so much, you know, having a leak around like

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Speaker 8: you know, just his knowledge is pass rushing and and

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Speaker 8: just it's just it's you know, and the young guys

1136
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 8: are sponges, you know, Mason and Aiden, like you know,

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Speaker 8: there's there's sponges that they're taking in all this information,

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Speaker 8: and you know, like we're really lucky. You know, I'm

1139
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 8: getting down there, like you know, some of my last

1140
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Speaker 8: year is playing football, and so I am like, I'm

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Speaker 8: I'm really blessed to be a part of you know,

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Speaker 8: a d line like this.

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Speaker 6: Is this you guys with the number one defense in

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00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 6: twenty three it's three games and so far this year.

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00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 6: But does this have the feeling of kind of a

1146
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 6: special team? And you just went through everybody in your

1147
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Speaker 6: in your room and my calls on his way back

1148
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 6: as well, so it more are being added there, But

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Speaker 6: does this have the feeling to you of maybe the

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Speaker 6: best group that you've been around.

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Speaker 8: You know that that's something that will have to be

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Speaker 8: determined week by week. We have to go out there

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00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 8: and earn that, you know, you know, it's too early

1154
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 8: to the crowd anything. We're going to have to go

1155
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 8: out there and truly earn everything because teams are going

1156
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 8: to know about us, and teams are going to try

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00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 8: to be the ones that exposed us. And we welcome

1158
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 8: the challenge. You know, we're going to welcome the challenge

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00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 8: every week because we know what the type of guys

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Speaker 8: we have all.

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Speaker 6: Right, last one, Shlby, You're born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and

1162
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 6: I saw you postgame. You said that your favorite part

1163
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Speaker 6: was that all your friends back home we're not going

1164
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Speaker 6: to be pleased with what you had done to the

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Speaker 6: Green Bay Packers. How has that gloating been for you

1166
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 6: and are you enjoying every moment of it?

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00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 8: Oh, it's been amazing. I'm enjoying scabs like you know,

1168
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 8: the the be blessing enough in this league. And then

1169
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 8: you know, I was the first person from a high

1170
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Speaker 8: school to come out and to be in an NFL

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00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 8: and then to be out there and then make a

1172
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 8: big play against your hometown team. You know, that's you know,

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00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 8: that's something that you know forever have memories about. But

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00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 8: then also you have backing rights with everybody you know

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00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 8: back at home. Yeah, it's just so it's cool. It's

1176
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 8: a really cool thing and something that I'm all forever

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Speaker 8: remember throughout these twelve years in NFL.

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Speaker 4: We've got Joe Thomas coming up later. Obviously he resides

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Speaker 4: in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 6: We're going to find out if his son is wearing

1181
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 6: all his Browns here to school to talk a little smack,

1182
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 6: so you can you know that you got boots on

1183
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 6: the ground in Wisconsin at talking trash for you, Shelby.

1184
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, that's exactly how it needs to be.

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Speaker 2: Go Browns, baby, Hey buddy, thank you for forgetting your

1186
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 2: pawn it. Thank you for your efforts every single week,

1187
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 2: and thank you for being a part of a defense

1188
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 2: that's truly special in a team that on this fine

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00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 2: Sunday provides a victory Monday. Appreciate your time, pal, enjoy

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Speaker 2: the rest of the day.

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Speaker 8: All right, Thank you guys. Appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, all right, there you go, Shelby Harris.

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Speaker 2: So see time for the great clips. It's going to

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Speaker 2: be great call of the game. Will you knew what it

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Speaker 2: had to be, Andre schmid The table is yours, go ahead,

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Speaker 2: bud for.

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Speaker 10: Jorquez kneels at the forty five two seconds bets, snap

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Speaker 10: is back, kick is up, and the kick.

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Speaker 20: Is right down the middle, and it's gone.

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Speaker 4: It's gone, Andre Smidt.

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Speaker 5: Now then the may the Green Bay Packers thirteen to ten.

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Speaker 20: Andre Schmidt being carried to the dog bound by his teammates.

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00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 4: What a moment.

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Speaker 20: This is why sports are the absolute best thing going.

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00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 20: You could not have foreseen the Cleveland Browns winning this game,

1220
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 20: not a chance, And here we are, Andre Schmidt. How

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Speaker 20: about the belief in Andre Schmidt from Kevin Stefanski and

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Speaker 20: Andrew Berry. It would have been so easy to say

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Speaker 20: with the cap He's not kicking this week and he

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Speaker 20: hits from fifty five yards.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's awesome. It's a great job of you guys.

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Speaker 2: That was fun, very cool.

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Speaker 4: It was fun. Was there a little edit in there? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: from the penalty part.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: That was really good, dude, really really good, really good.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I was trying to be good for gibb. Let it

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Speaker 6: breathe right there. Yeah, yeah, proud get a little before.

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Speaker 4: Be where I came in there. So it was yeah,

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Speaker 4: that was awesome, right, my only other game.

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Speaker 3: But then I went back and listened.

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Speaker 6: I was like, no, no, yeah, I even let him

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00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 6: come back a second time before I talked it's a

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Speaker 6: good job by you.

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Speaker 4: Or something like that. York York baby steps with you,

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Speaker 4: baby steps. We're taking giant leaps for mankind.

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Speaker 2: That's fun though, Man, that was so fun. Did you guys?

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Speaker 2: So on the broadcast, they did not put the flag

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Speaker 2: thing up right away.

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Speaker 4: So flag was out there. I saw immedia, I saw

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Speaker 4: the guy.

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Speaker 3: You saw that right away.

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Speaker 4: I was like, it's on that moor. It's good.

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Speaker 2: We're good, We're good. Yeah. So that was a part

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Speaker 21: Monday Night football Leons Ratbirds from Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: Ze girl quickly.

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Speaker 4: I think the Ravens bounce back nicely. I mean bounce back.

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Speaker 6: I guess they did beat us, But yeah, I think

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Speaker 6: the Ravens are are very darn good football team.

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Speaker 4: I like the Ravens thirty one twenty one.

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Speaker 3: Ooh, same but different.

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Speaker 2: I like the Ravens as well, but I think it's

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Speaker 2: they one twenty eight thirty one twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: I think we get a good tonight. I'm excited for

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Speaker 3: this one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and coming up next, you're gonna get a little

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Speaker 2: thing called the Hoff. The Joe Thomas half hour of

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Speaker 2: Well, it is that time of the show, my friends.

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Speaker 2: We've all been waiting for it. It is the Joe

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Speaker 2: Thomas half hour of the program, and it all tastes

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Speaker 2: a little bit different. On a victory Monday. Hoff wins

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Speaker 2: help buddy. They always do, even the most improbable ways,

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Speaker 2: as this one was yesterday.

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Speaker 7: It always feels good to win.

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Speaker 22: I said it at the end of the preseason when

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Speaker 22: I was doing the games with Chris Rose, I said,

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Speaker 22: I don't care if it's Tiddley Winks or Dominoes or

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Speaker 22: I'm playing Uno.

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Speaker 7: With the kids.

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Speaker 22: I want to win because there's just a feeling when

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Speaker 22: you win that's different, and it just makes that victory

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Speaker 22: Monday so much sweeter, knowing that you snatched victory from

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Speaker 22: the jaws of defeat.

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Speaker 7: And that everybody in my state that I'm living in.

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Speaker 22: Currently was feeling very sad when I walked into the

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Speaker 22: workout this morning, proudly, all chesty with my Cleveland Brown sweatshirt.

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Speaker 4: On, as you should be.

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Speaker 2: Was young Jack and Brown's today were the kids in

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Speaker 2: school in Browns today walking out?

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Speaker 22: Absolutely absolutely so my bust behind me. I had to

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Speaker 22: steal Jack's Hall of Fame beef Victory Monday official hat,

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Speaker 22: by the way, because he was gonna wear that with

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Speaker 22: his Brown's gear and rub it in because it's funny,

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Speaker 22: you know, you know, kids are like I wouldn't maybe

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Speaker 22: be so mean to my coworkers or friends that are

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Speaker 22: big Packers fans, because I know the hurt that they're

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Speaker 22: dealing with right now.

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Speaker 5: But not a nine year old boy.

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Speaker 21: He's going right there and rub it in their face

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01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 21: and tell them all about it, Just rub their face

1314
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 21: in it and make them smell it because they just

1315
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 21: collapsed it in a monumental fashion at the end of

1316
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 21: that game.

1317
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 6: They did, and the Browns in a three minute span,

1318
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 6: rose to the occasion and found a way to get

1319
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 6: it done. And it was you know, we talked complimentary

1320
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 6: football all the time, but it really was you know,

1321
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 6: you had the defense, the turnover from Grant Delpit. You

1322
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 6: had the offense do it's part, you know, punch it

1323
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 6: in the end zone. Then he had special teams block

1324
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 6: the field goal. Then he had the offense do its

1325
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 6: part not only to get into field goal range, but

1326
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 6: to have an operation that allowed them to not only

1327
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 6: complete a pass to David Djoku, get to the line,

1328
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 6: get information, not have a penalty in a ten second runoff,

1329
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 6: spike the ball, bring Andre schmid out, who goes from

1330
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 6: the outhouse to the penthouse, makes it from fifty five yards.

1331
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 6: It's just at the end of the broadcast, I think

1332
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 6: I said something like, this is why sports is the greatest.

1333
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 6: It's the best.

1334
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 4: It is because you can't write stories like this.

1335
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 6: It just and how over game time We'll call it

1336
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 6: four minutes, but in real time was probably fifteen minutes.

1337
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 7: Yep, everything changed.

1338
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 6: I mean we were talking about the princess bride head

1339
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 6: into the pit of despair. Yeah, you know, we are

1340
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 6: going to the pit of despair. And now everybody's feeling good.

1341
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 6: Jack's chesty with the it's beautiful Wisconsinight's and everybody's happy

1342
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 6: about what happened there. And it also I think, and

1343
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 6: I want your take on this both of yours. Actually,

1344
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 6: we needed to win to give this defense that its

1345
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 6: appropriate flowers. If we're zero and three, nobody's talking about

1346
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 6: the fact that this right now has the potential to

1347
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 6: be and we've said all along this defensive line like generationally,

1348
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 6: they're there, unbelievable and you're seeing it because of this win.

1349
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 6: And I was watching all the shows this morning, and

1350
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 6: oh yeah, everyone's talking about it.

1351
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 4: But you needed to win to get those accolades.

1352
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 22: Absolutely, And I think just as important as those accolades

1353
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 22: is that defensive football is really hard. It's hard on

1354
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 22: your body, but also on every single play. To get

1355
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 22: the most out of your defense, you have to have

1356
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 22: them playing at absolute max capacity because all eleven of

1357
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 22: those guys are flying to the football until the whistle

1358
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 22: is blown.

1359
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 7: That's very tiring.

1360
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 22: It's very hard to maintain that if you're not seeing

1361
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 22: any results and the results being like, hey, we're number

1362
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 22: one in the league, we're number one in this we're

1363
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 22: winning a few games. We're keeping our offense in there.

1364
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 22: Because if they play at that high level, but the

1365
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 22: offense never does anything to help them, and then they're

1366
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 22: still losing by two or three scores in games that

1367
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 22: you don't even feel like it's close. It's just human

1368
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 22: nature for those guys to just dial it back a

1369
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 22: little bit, and then you don't have that greatness and

1370
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 22: you don't give that opportunity to your offense to be

1371
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 22: able to grow into what they're trying to be. Now,

1372
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 22: we didn't see a whole lot of growth this weekend,

1373
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 22: but I will say I.

1374
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 7: Think the run game was a little bit better.

1375
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 22: Quinch On Judkins is playing a little bit better, being

1376
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 22: more comfortable in that offense, and you know, you hope

1377
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 22: that he can continue to improve and continue to be

1378
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 22: the workhorse for us, and that somehow, some way that

1379
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 22: opens up some passing down the field to get a

1380
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 22: little complimentary football between your run and your pass on offense,

1381
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 22: and then just give the defense that feeling of success

1382
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 22: of all the hard work that you're doing throughout the

1383
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 22: entire game and playing some of the best defensive football

1384
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 22: that we've seen in a long time in the NFL.

1385
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 7: It's paying off.

1386
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 22: It's working because you brought it right down to the wire,

1387
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 22: you kept it close, and then we're able to make

1388
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 22: one more play than them. And then the offense, like

1389
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 22: you mentioned at the end, did a great job in

1390
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 22: situational football. Kevin Stefanci had those guys absolutely perfectly coached

1391
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:30,919
Speaker 22: up to be able to get the ball placed as

1392
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 22: fast as they did, to be able to get an

1393
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 22: opportunity to go win that game. And then of course

1394
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 22: your kicker with the redemption after like you mentioned, man,

1395
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 22: it was so good to see him make that kick

1396
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 22: one and then hear the story of his mother passing

1397
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 22: and how emotional he was in that game and how

1398
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 22: he's still thinking about her, and just you tie in

1399
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 22: all those different emotions and all those different feelings and

1400
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 22: it becomes quickly a team that you weren't really happy

1401
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 22: to be associated with to now a team that you're

1402
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 22: believing in and you love, and you're individually pulling out

1403
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 22: different players that you're feeling for and you have that

1404
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 22: connection too, And really that's why we want to be fans,

1405
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 22: right We want that connection to our team and to

1406
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 22: those different players. And so I just thought it was

1407
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 22: such a great way to finish. Obviously, you get the win,

1408
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 22: but just from an emotional standpoint, to be able to

1409
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 22: give the defense some of those flowers, to be able

1410
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 22: to give the offense a little bit of confidence at

1411
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 22: the end of that game and then have that connection

1412
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 22: between fans and some of these players, especially guys that

1413
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 22: maybe weren't our favorite players going into this game.

1414
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 2: I think it validates, It validates what you're doing. Nathan

1415
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,439
Speaker 2: and I talked about this off. I know you talked

1416
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 2: about it in the preseason with Chris and anytime you're

1417
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 2: on with us. The people in this building believed that

1418
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 2: there was more to this football team than the people

1419
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 2: outside this building thought was. Okay, So there's nobody here

1420
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 2: who thought this was a three and a half win

1421
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 2: football team or a four and a half win football team.

1422
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 2: They thought that if done a certain way, you could

1423
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 2: be in the mix.

1424
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 7: Okay.

1425
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 2: So what a win like yesterday does is it validates

1426
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 2: the belief in the talent that's here. So I think

1427
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 2: that's the big thing it does. If you just watched

1428
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 2: Kevin come off the field skipping into AB's arms, you've

1429
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 2: seen that.

1430
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 3: Video going around like we needed it.

1431
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 2: You needed a damn result like we probably deserved one

1432
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 2: week one against Cincinnati, Week two in Baltimore.

1433
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 3: It was not as.

1434
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 2: Lopsided as that score would lead you to believe, so,

1435
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 2: but you needed you could have done everything right, and

1436
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,919
Speaker 2: if that kick Sales wide left or right at the end.

1437
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 2: Then we're sitting here going, god, they're terrible, tear it down.

1438
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 2: Everybody is, oh, we don't care if you don't block

1439
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 2: the kick Denzel first, and then show all of it

1440
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 2: like if all those things don't happen. So it's one

1441
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 2: of those things where it validates I think the people

1442
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 2: in the building's belief of what's capable and you needed it.

1443
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 2: You needed to get a result. You can do all

1444
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 2: the things right, but when you don't get the result,

1445
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. And that's the thing about sports. To

1446
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 2: your point at the end of the broadcast yesterday, that's

1447
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 2: so great. Like green Day was a better team for

1448
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 2: fifty seven minutes. Our defense kept us in it. They

1449
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 2: were never able to separate, much like us against Cincinnati.

1450
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 2: We were the better team for fifty seven minutes maybe more,

1451
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 2: and didn't get the result that you that you were

1452
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 2: Probably that was warranted. So I think it validates what

1453
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 2: people around here think this team is capable of and.

1454
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 4: Also shows too.

1455
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 6: When you don't lose the turnover battle one to one

1456
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 6: in this game, you can have a chance. We lost

1457
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 6: it nine straight games, you have a chance to go

1458
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 6: out and win a football game. It's funny walking out.

1459
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 6: I got to spend some time with a guy who

1460
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 6: was on the staff on the hoff was still playing

1461
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 6: back in twenty fourteen, Jeff Haffley, who was the defensive

1462
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 6: coordinator for the Packers.

1463
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 4: We talked to a bunch pre game, and then on the.

1464
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 6: Way out, I we just coincidentally ended up walking out

1465
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 6: of the tunnel at the same time, and you know,

1466
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 6: and he's like, so, you guys played a great defense

1467
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 6: because a, yeah, we gave up three points.

1468
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, as a defense, really we gave him

1469
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 4: three points. We were pretty pleased.

1470
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 6: He said there were some plays you know that maybe

1471
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 6: probably could have been made down the field that weren't.

1472
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 6: But you know, he's like, we were happy. He goes,

1473
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 6: you guys are a great defense, and we were just

1474
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 6: kind of talking about how cool it was. He two

1475
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 6: really good defenses who'd go about their business so differently.

1476
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 6: They've play so much zone, we play so much man.

1477
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 6: But you know, they're they're a real team and they'll

1478
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 6: get it figured out. I think, you know, you watching it,

1479
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 6: it probably had to be maddening, as if you were

1480
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 6: a Packers fan, why are they even throwing the ball

1481
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 6: on third and three.

1482
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, just run it.

1483
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 6: At the worst we punt it back to them and

1484
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 6: they have to go eighty yards and they have not

1485
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 6: shown any ability to go eighty yards for a touchdown

1486
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 6: in this game. But you know, Grant Delpit makes a

1487
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 6: play off of the same look, same route, same everything

1488
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 6: that you have an interception in Pittsburgh back on that

1489
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 6: Monday night game a few years ago, and then he

1490
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 6: makes that play and all of a sudden you win.

1491
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 6: But you're right, it does, it validates it, and it

1492
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 6: it just it loosens the valve a little bit, right, yeah, man, bigly.

1493
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 6: In fact, now, the crazy thing is, had we just

1494
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 6: handled our business week one, we'd be two and one.

1495
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 6: Even if the Ravens won tonight, everybody in this division

1496
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 6: would be two and one, be a four way tie

1497
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 6: for first, which would be nuts. We didn't, but you gosh,

1498
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 6: you needed this.

1499
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I like what you use there.

1500
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 2: It said, And you've been in those rooms off when

1501
01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 2: you when you feel like you're doing everything right but

1502
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 2: you're not getting result. You get one and it's like, okay,

1503
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 2: I'm more coachable this week, and it's for sure, go ahead.

1504
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1505
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 22: No, I was just gonna say be in those rooms,

1506
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 22: answers are being sought and if you can't find an

1507
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 22: obvious answer, you're going to create one. And unfortunately, that's

1508
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 22: when the finger pointing comes. That's when the team starts

1509
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 22: breaking down a little bit, because we're competitors. We will

1510
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 22: not accept losing. It's just not in our DNA. And

1511
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 22: you're just gonna be sitting there trying to figure out

1512
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 22: what do we need to do better to win? And

1513
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 22: at some point it becomes well, you're the problem, right,

1514
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 22: even though that might not be the problem, but you

1515
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 22: have to find answers somewhere to be able to uncover

1516
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 22: every rock that you have to get more out of everybody,

1517
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 22: and unfortunately, when it does go too far, that's when

1518
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 22: you get some issues within the locker room or within

1519
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 22: the building because people start pointing fingers at each other.

1520
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:51,640
Speaker 7: And so obviously.

1521
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 22: Avoiding that is a pretty important part if you want

1522
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 22: to continue to build this thing and continue to believe

1523
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 22: in the stuff that we talked about in preseason that

1524
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 22: Bo just mentioned, like, we feel that this offense especially

1525
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 22: should be getting more out of what they have from

1526
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 22: a talent standpoint and what they have from a scheme

1527
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 22: standpoint than they are, and they need to really be

1528
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 22: the ones that pick things up. But on the defensive side,

1529
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 22: they have to have that reward at some point. You

1530
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,560
Speaker 22: have to give it to them because they're dogs that

1531
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 22: are hungry and they are running and they're chasing, but

1532
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 22: they got to get that meat eventually, otherwise they're gonna

1533
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 22: start eating each other, and that in a.

1534
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 7: Good situation, you stop running.

1535
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you right now, I think and we

1536
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 6: lost this game ten to nothing or ten three.

1537
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 4: It's just human nature.

1538
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 6: I think that that you would have had there would

1539
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 6: have been finger pointing. They're just the defense would say, okay,

1540
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 6: we've played three of the best offenses in the NFL.

1541
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 6: We have successfully neutralized what they do well. Week one,

1542
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 6: it's the pass game. Week two, it's Derek Henry and

1543
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson run the football. Week three, we took Josh

1544
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 6: Jacobs basically out of this football game. We ended his touchdown,

1545
01:10:55,400 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 6: We did it all. What more do you want us

1546
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 6: to do? Of course, that's what more do you want us?

1547
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 6: That's why it's so that's and you win. And it's

1548
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 6: funny those things aren't really even discussions. This was a

1549
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 6: game that was won. We still haven't played true complimentary football.

1550
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 6: This was a game that was won by the defense

1551
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 6: and the special teams of the Cleveland Browns, and the

1552
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 6: offense was in this happy to be along for the ride.

1553
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 6: And Joe Flacko even really said that after the game.

1554
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 2: He's like, there was one one difference though, and that's

1555
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 2: the kid wearing number ten.

1556
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 3: Of course, because there's a level hoff that he has.

1557
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 2: He I said when they drafted him that to me,

1558
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 2: he reminds me of Kareem Hunt, like Kansas City Chief

1559
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 2: even but yes, even early Browns Kareem Hunt like. He

1560
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 2: runs violently. Yes, his knees are high, he gets upfield.

1561
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 2: You never get him for a loss almost ever. This

1562
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 2: is why they drafted him.

1563
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 22: Haff absolutely, and you're starting to see it, right, He's

1564
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 22: starting to be more confident reading his blocks.

1565
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 7: There was one play I think he was running to

1566
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 7: the left.

1567
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 22: He made a great cut and he had the vision

1568
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 22: to see the hole and he set up the off

1569
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 22: of his left foot to get back into that hole.

1570
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 22: And just that little move you could see how much

1571
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 22: quickness and power he had to be able to make

1572
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 22: guys miss at the line of scrimmage. But he kind

1573
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 22: of had that second thought about where he was trying

1574
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 22: to get to by setting up the defense with his

1575
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 22: first move, and it's fun to see that right as

1576
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 22: guys are becoming more confident. You know, he's only been

1577
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,600
Speaker 22: here a short couple of weeks so far because of

1578
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 22: the holdout, but you're starting to get what you saw

1579
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 22: on film from him in college.

1580
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 7: And really that's who.

1581
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:33,799
Speaker 22: We're relying on on offense right now to get things started,

1582
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 22: to be that warhorse, to be able to open up

1583
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 22: some things in the passing game, just which we're not

1584
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 22: there so far this season, but hopefully with a running

1585
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 22: game that's steady consistent. The teams are worried about Judkins

1586
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 22: that boom, Now you can open up maybe some holes

1587
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 22: in the passing game.

1588
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 4: He changed the game in two plays.

1589
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 6: I mean totally back to back place for fifty two

1590
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 6: yards when fourteen thirty eight, and he has an ability

1591
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 6: his jump cuts are so quick. He has that ability

1592
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,480
Speaker 6: to make that jump cut, make guys miss and accelerate.

1593
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 4: He's got.

1594
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 6: People are wonder, oh, does he have enough home run speed? Yes, plants,

1595
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 6: there is plenty of speed he's got. He is just

1596
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 6: an incredibly he's smooth to me, when I think Kareem,

1597
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 6: I think more of like a whirling dervish, like a

1598
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 6: little bit like like a ball of what do they

1599
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 6: call it, like a bowling ball of butcher knives or yeah, yeah, yeah,

1600
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 6: he's there's a smoothest to him in his ability to outrun.

1601
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 6: When you saw him outrun Marlon Humphrey and the two

1602
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:27,839
Speaker 6: weeks ago, yeah.

1603
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 4: You're like, wow, he just yes, he is great.

1604
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 6: And I want to ask you, Hoff when you have

1605
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 6: a guy who goes through the situation that he went through,

1606
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 6: and other players obviously don't like to get involved in

1607
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 6: other player's money, and rightfully so, but for him to

1608
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:44,719
Speaker 6: come in in the kind of condition that he came

1609
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 6: in to have one week of practice, take fifteen touches,

1610
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 6: and then the next week come in basically be the

1611
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 6: bell cow run at eighteen times. Like there's a difference

1612
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 6: between shape and football shape. So whatever he did, the

1613
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 6: commitment he made to his body to being saying like,

1614
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 6: I know I miss some time. I'm gonna the round

1615
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 6: running and you're gonna forget that I missed training camp,

1616
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 6: by the way, kind of an impressive start the guy's career,

1617
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,759
Speaker 6: considering he had not been on a football field since June,

1618
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 6: prior to the week he showed up.

1619
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 4: But what does that say.

1620
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 6: The guy's in the locker room and as somebody who's

1621
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 6: had to get ready, what is it say? I mean,

1622
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 6: is it kind of amazing what he's doing.

1623
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 22: It's totally amazing, And I think it really speaks to

1624
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 22: his commitment to this team and to himself and the

1625
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 22: craft and how important it is right to be a

1626
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 22: great football player, because it is really really hard to

1627
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 22: get in football shape without playing football. We always said

1628
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 22: it was impossible, but now he's proven that wrong because

1629
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 22: clearly he is in great football shape. I think he

1630
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,680
Speaker 22: had eighteen carries in this game two weeks later. Like

1631
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 22: I remember going into training camp and I did a

1632
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 22: lot of conditioning in the summer on my own. I

1633
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 22: would even do football stuff, pushing sleds, But there's a

1634
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 22: difference when you're doing it against live human beings and

1635
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 22: you don't know where they're going, and they're hitting you

1636
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 22: and you're hitting them, and you're bracing and you're not

1637
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 22: breathing the right way because you know you're pushing a

1638
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 22: guy and people are landing on you. And for a

1639
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 22: running back, it's even because you have to deal with

1640
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 22: all that contact at the line of scrimmage and then

1641
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 22: all of a sudden, oh babe, by the way, you

1642
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 22: got to hit third or fourth gear and then go

1643
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 22: run fifty yards down the sideline and try to outrun

1644
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 22: a safety or a cornerback.

1645
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,719
Speaker 7: So we need to find out.

1646
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 22: What his off season program was and replicate that, because

1647
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 22: it was just amazing to see a man come in

1648
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 22: here and be in such fantastic physical shape in a

1649
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 22: couple of games that were kind of hot for this

1650
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 22: time of the year in Cleveland, Ohio or in north

1651
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 22: of the Mason Dixie. Uh, it's pretty impressive to see

1652
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 22: a man to be able to be in that good

1653
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 22: of shape when it is hot, when it already is

1654
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 22: human and it's difficult to catch your breath and you're

1655
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 22: playing the most physically demanding position on the offensive side

1656
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 22: of the football.

1657
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,719
Speaker 2: One of my favorite things an anecdote. The television cameras

1658
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 2: picked up on this. I'm I'm sure I know you

1659
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 2: guys have the feet in there, so he maybe saw

1660
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 2: it too. So he rips off those two runs for

1661
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,759
Speaker 2: the fifty two yards they pulling, He goes to the sidelines.

1662
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 2: It doesn't even look like he's breathing hard. Yeah, it's

1663
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 2: like nothing like he's he was ready, he was ready.

1664
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 4: Get him back in there. He was ready to go.

1665
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 3: I mean we carried the ball in nineteen times.

1666
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 2: He had eighteen of them, So that tells you kind

1667
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 2: of bellcal what he is. I wanted to get also,

1668
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:11,959
Speaker 2: hof on the spike play to get those extra yards,

1669
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 2: to be that organized, because as that's happening, you're going, Okay,

1670
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 2: you can go to the middle of the field, but

1671
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 2: you better have a plan for it had to be insie.

1672
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 3: It had to be so clean, so quick, so precise.

1673
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 2: How does that get done, and what were your thoughts

1674
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 2: when they when they lined up to run a play?

1675
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 22: That's not weeks of practice and preparation of that situation,

1676
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 22: that is years because you have to know so detailed

1677
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,640
Speaker 22: about how much time you have, how deep you can

1678
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 22: run your routes, and then after you get the ball.

1679
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 22: There's a lot of defenses that are taught to basically

1680
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 22: understand in that situation, like just let him run because

1681
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 22: he's going to run out the clock, or he's going

1682
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 22: to run so far from where your offensive line is

1683
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 22: that they won't be able to get the ball.

1684
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 7: Down and spike it in time.

1685
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 22: Like for David Nijoku to be so heady to be

1686
01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 22: able to understand, Okay, I can catch the ball, but

1687
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 22: now I got to get down immediately, put the ball

1688
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 22: exactly in the right spot, give it to the ref,

1689
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 22: or give it to my center who knows exactly the

1690
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 22: spot that the ref is going to put it on.

1691
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 22: Because the ref has to touch the ball before they

1692
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 22: can snap it, they can't just put it wherever they want.

1693
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:15,640
Speaker 22: But the ref doesn't have to come in and do

1694
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 22: a whole lot. If we were smart enough to catch

1695
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,839
Speaker 22: the ball, understand, we got to get down very quickly,

1696
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 22: put it in the right spot, get everybody up to

1697
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 22: the line of scrimmage, get the packers away if possible,

1698
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 22: make a lane for the ref to be able to

1699
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 22: come in there, touch the football, be lined up so

1700
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 22: that everybody's in a legal formation. So you got your

1701
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 22: receivers covering your offensive tackles on the end, not too

1702
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 22: many guys in the backfield. Everybody's got to face the

1703
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 22: line of scrimmage. So there's all these things that have

1704
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 22: to go on that you have to be aware of

1705
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 22: that situation, and it could have been completely ruined had

1706
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 22: David not had the wherewithal to get down quickly if

1707
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 22: he was trying to get enough extra couple of yards,

1708
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 22: or the defense is also taught to try to hold

1709
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 22: him up. They're not wanting to let him get down,

1710
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:57,639
Speaker 22: and so you have all these things that are happening,

1711
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 22: and so to be able to pull that off in

1712
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 22: that situation is extremely difficult, and they made it look easy.

1713
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 22: So people at home probably thought, oh, that was a

1714
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 22: pretty rudeine play. But that's something you've practiced for years.

1715
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 22: And I think they trusted Najoku because he's been here

1716
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 22: long enough and he's run that play probably one hundred

1717
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 22: and fifty times on Friday and Saturday and practice to

1718
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 22: know exactly what he needed to do. And they were

1719
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 22: never going to trust one of the younger guys because

1720
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 22: it's just so important.

1721
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:21,719
Speaker 7: It's the difference between winning and losing.

1722
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 6: It was also insane watching the playback, as I'm doing

1723
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:26,719
Speaker 6: right this second.

1724
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 4: There you go, but now maybe a little little lift,

1725
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 4: give it a little little lift there, there we go.

1726
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 6: Uh that They basically just gave him a free release

1727
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 6: on the slant to the middle of they did you

1728
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 6: wanted to catch that ball? You had to catch that

1729
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 6: ball between the hashes. Otherwise there was no if you

1730
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 6: had to move the ball side in, no chance. And

1731
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 6: I want to give just a little shout out cause

1732
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 6: I'm watching the play right now on tape.

1733
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,520
Speaker 4: So we snapped that ball.

1734
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 6: At their forty six, I want to say, roughly.

1735
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 4: Forty five at their forty five.

1736
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 6: All right, so that's five ten, fifteen yards behind the play.

1737
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 6: When the ball's threw own is it's the umpire that

1738
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,759
Speaker 6: has to go in and touch it, right, yes, yeah, okay,

1739
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 6: So the second that David Djok who catches the ball. Here,

1740
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:12,560
Speaker 6: I'll show you the second that David Djoku catches the ball,

1741
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 6: this guy starts sprinting.

1742
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 4: The umpire starts sprinting.

1743
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 6: Immediately look at the y I mean, this dude is

1744
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 6: he's on it, on it. He gets in there, touches

1745
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 6: the ball, which you have to and that's what it

1746
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 6: gives you.

1747
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 4: The opportunity.

1748
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 6: That guy ran twenty yards of the dead sprint, weaved in,

1749
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 6: hit the ball, and the Browns were able to get

1750
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:29,680
Speaker 6: it off.

1751
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 4: He takes he lollygags. No chance.

1752
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 6: So shout out to the to the umpire in the game,

1753
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 6: because he is the second it was caught. He starts

1754
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,600
Speaker 6: running because he's like, I know what this is gonna be,

1755
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 6: Like he's in starter blocks. Yeah, yeah, that was great.

1756
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 3: That was great.

1757
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,719
Speaker 2: So all of these things change the mood of today

1758
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 2: in a very very dramatic fashion.

1759
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 6: Obviously, again, so much to work on, right, that was

1760
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:52,600
Speaker 6: not We'll work on it with a win, baby, But

1761
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,799
Speaker 6: that's what I'm saying. It's a totally different tone totally.

1762
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 6: We played a better game against the Bengals, yes we did.

1763
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that.

1764
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 4: Was misery yep.

1765
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 6: Most and Aaron Rodgers doesn't like to get bogged down

1766
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,719
Speaker 6: in the binary nature of this business. There is nothing

1767
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 6: that is more binary than the National Football League because

1768
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 6: you get it.

1769
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 4: For a week, You get those feelings for a week.

1770
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 6: Now you can try to be like in a bad scenario,

1771
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 6: all we're on to such and such, but the good

1772
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 6: vibes last until they don't, which, yes, that's until you

1773
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 6: the bell sounds at the end of sixty minutes.

1774
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:27,839
Speaker 4: You know this Sunday in Detroit.

1775
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 15: Yep.

1776
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 4: But we got joy until.

1777
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 2: Then, yeah, yeah you do. And and now we can

1778
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 2: do game balls.

1779
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 3: We got some game balls.

1780
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 21: What a treat.

1781
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 6: By the way, I mean, Kevin Stefancy. I thought he's

1782
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 6: gonna run out of game balls. Don't get balls they have.

1783
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 6: He handed out like twelve of them.

1784
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 2: A lot well, it was, yeah, a lot of weight.

1785
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 2: I think on everybody, let's start with you Hoff, game

1786
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:46,759
Speaker 2: ball offense.

1787
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 3: Who do you got?

1788
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 7: Still the easy one? Quinn John Judkins.

1789
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 22: I mean he's like you mentioned, he's the workhorse, that's

1790
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 22: what we expected him to be. But only a couple

1791
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 22: of weeks after getting here he has eighteen carries for

1792
01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:58,799
Speaker 22: ninety four yards a touchdown.

1793
01:20:59,080 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 7: He makes a great play.

1794
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 22: The one I was referring to before was an inside

1795
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:06,759
Speaker 22: zone to the weak side. Micah Parsons actually slanted inside,

1796
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 22: so he had to change his track immediately. The packer

1797
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 22: safety came down and was actually a good position to

1798
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 22: make the play. Judkins the fourteen yard round, Yeah, exactly.

1799
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1800
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 22: He makes a whoop, quick fake to his left, puts

1801
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 22: his foot in the ground, almost completely avoids the safety,

1802
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 22: and then finishes in dominant fashion, putting his shoulder down

1803
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 22: and finishes with that toughness. That just builds a motivation

1804
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 22: and an excitement within that offense and creates that spark

1805
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 22: and if you're gonna have a running back be the

1806
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:34,759
Speaker 22: focus of your offense.

1807
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:35,799
Speaker 7: You need a guy.

1808
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 22: That's finishing runs, finishing angry runs with his shoulder down

1809
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 22: and creating that spark in that enthusiasm and excitement for

1810
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 22: that entire offense.

1811
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 7: So he's an easy one. Thanks for giving me him first.

1812
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, we had no we had nothing going on there

1813
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 6: until those back to back runs and that really you're right,

1814
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 6: that could have been a run for no game. I

1815
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 6: mean Javon Bullard, the safety was in perfect spot, yep,

1816
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 6: and he made him the matrix matrix matrix him, made

1817
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 6: him even touch him right there.

1818
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 3: Offense game ballzy.

1819
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 6: As we sit here across the from the NFL's Iron Man,

1820
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 6: I'm gonna give it to a guy who had a

1821
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 6: streak that for a while was you know, maybe he

1822
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 6: had a chance to get into that rarefied era of

1823
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 6: the great Hof but he did not remember it was

1824
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 6: the forty nine Ers game a few years ago after

1825
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 6: he had a little procedure in the bye week. But

1826
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:27,600
Speaker 6: I'm giving mine to Joel Botonio because Joel Betonio and

1827
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 6: coming to Fancy, gave it to him as well. You know,

1828
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 6: wasn't really walking well during the week, but he wanted

1829
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 6: to go out there for his guys. I got a

1830
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 6: chance to go sit with him in the locker room

1831
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 6: afterwards for a few seconds and we were talking and

1832
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 6: he basically was like he could hear you in his mind,

1833
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 6: be like, I don't know how many and more of

1834
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 6: these I'm gonna get how many more chance I'm gonna

1835
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 6: get to play with my guys, and if I can

1836
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 6: do it, I'm gonna do it. And I asked him,

1837
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 6: I said, about fifty five minutes in, were you thinking

1838
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 6: it was a great decision?

1839
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 4: He's like, well, no, I was really at that point,

1840
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:57,759
Speaker 4: I wasn't thinking he was such a great decision.

1841
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 6: But now it feels really great. So Joel Botonia, that's awesome.

1842
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 7: That's great.

1843
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 2: All right, I'll lead up with you on this one. Defensively, Zee,

1844
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 2: who do you got? You go a lot of different

1845
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 2: ways here.

1846
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 4: I mean there. You could give it to everybody.

1847
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 6: Really, I'm gonna give it to because I think that

1848
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 6: he is a leader of this team. And they say

1849
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 6: big time players make big time plays in big time moments.

1850
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 6: I'm gonna give to Grant Helpot because without that interception,

1851
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 6: I don't know that we win. There were so many

1852
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 6: great performances on that defense and whether you're talking about

1853
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 6: the line, whether you're talking about Carson, I mean a

1854
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 6: million of them, but Delpit getting that pick in that moment,

1855
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 6: getting up running, trucking Jordan Love and getting down to

1856
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 6: the four so that we were one penalty away from

1857
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 6: me and down at the one and then into the

1858
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 6: end zone.

1859
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 4: I gotta give mine to Grant helpot Huff.

1860
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 22: Obviously it's gotta be Viles Garrett at some point in

1861
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 22: this conversation, but I want to give it to my

1862
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 22: guy Aiden Huntington because he was my player of the preseason.

1863
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 22: He was so much fun to watch with the effort

1864
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 22: he was playing on special teams and then on defense,

1865
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 22: and then for him to go out and play significant

1866
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 22: snaps in this game, finished with four total tackles and

1867
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 22: he had his first half sack.

1868
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 7: Of his NFL career.

1869
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 22: So it was so good to see him taking what

1870
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 22: he did in training camp and in the preseason and

1871
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 22: earning a spot to be able to get some playtime,

1872
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 22: and then now he's making it pay, making it pay

1873
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 22: off all that work that he's put in and getting

1874
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 22: some snaps on offense too, which was kind of cool

1875
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 22: seeing him in the jumbo package down there by the

1876
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 22: goal line.

1877
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 2: I will say that Mina kaimes the screen grab that

1878
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 2: she grabbed Miles with a congo line packers trying to

1879
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 2: block him.

1880
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 3: Have you seen this for the folks who haven't seen it.

1881
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 3: So it's Miles.

1882
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 2: There are three packers lined up like, once he gets

1883
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:44,600
Speaker 2: by you, I got him. Once he gets by you,

1884
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 2: I got him.

1885
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 3: Like I just no one.

1886
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 2: And Ben Baby, who we have on all the time

1887
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 2: from the Bengals side, he goes he's the best player

1888
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 2: in football, and it's not particularly close. He's probably right football.

1889
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 2: He's probably the best overall player in football. It's stunning

1890
01:24:58,200 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 2: what he does every week.

1891
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 6: I mean, so Delp had the nine tackles, the pick

1892
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 6: tackle for a loss. Miles was all over the place,

1893
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 6: half a sack, he had four pressures. I mean, you

1894
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:12,639
Speaker 6: Bliek Collins in this game. Mason Grahma is taking grants

1895
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 6: on your first sack in the locker room and he's like,

1896
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 6: it's only half a sack, doesn't count, Like, no, that counts.

1897
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 6: Take him, but that's you. That's your first sack there.

1898
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 6: Carson Swessinger is another one. I just think we need

1899
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 6: to acknowledge ten tackles tackle for a loss, his sack,

1900
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 6: you really had two secs because one was erased on

1901
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 6: the twelve men on the field penalty, which by the way,

1902
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 6: got scilly ono fire not pod.

1903
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 3: He's like batt lafloor.

1904
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 4: That's not in the spirit of the rules.

1905
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 6: He was fished. It was a great rant. But so

1906
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 6: Carson really had two secks. But the way that he

1907
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 6: closed off in the open field, it was like a

1908
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 6: heat seeking missile. And to get that sack on Jordan Love,

1909
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 6: I mean that guy doesn't You showed that tape to

1910
01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 6: people who've been around league for a long time ago.

1911
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 6: How many games you think this guy's play in the NFL.

1912
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 6: I mean they're gonna think he's a multi year vet.

1913
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 6: He's a this is third game.

1914
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 3: Incredible, it's only his second year starting.

1915
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:08,679
Speaker 4: Second year starting, that's.

1916
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 3: Right, that's right for college pro anywhere. Like, just did

1917
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:12,719
Speaker 3: it happen?

1918
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 8: No?

1919
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 3: It was awesome? All right.

1920
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:17,839
Speaker 2: Trench Report brought to you by Big Fig the Mattress

1921
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 2: made for More. It's craft in Cleveland, just like our

1922
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 2: brown So uh today we get the news on to

1923
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 2: one ugh it's and look, this is all down and roses.

1924
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 2: But this is the reality of the sport is the

1925
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 2: injury part of it. You and I are here every day,

1926
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,440
Speaker 2: and we've seen the work that Dewan put in this offseason.

1927
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 2: His spirit is completely infectious. He's of no fault of

1928
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 2: his own hoff, but it's just a it's just an

1929
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 2: absolutely crippling blow on an otherwise very very happy victory Monday.

1930
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 22: Yeah, it's a gut punch going out early in the

1931
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 22: game with the knee injury, and for a guy that

1932
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 22: has worked so hard through the off season to get

1933
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 22: him his body in shape switching over there to the

1934
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 22: left tackle. Obviously built quite a close relationship with him

1935
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 22: throughout his time in Cleveland and then this year in

1936
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 22: training camp, and it just it just pains me because

1937
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 22: I know how important this is to him, and I

1938
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 22: know how much work he's put into it, and then

1939
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:15,560
Speaker 22: now to have to wait a full season until he

1940
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:18,600
Speaker 22: can get back out there and continue that journey to

1941
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 22: be the type of player that I know he is

1942
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 22: going to be. It hurts, and it's part of the game,

1943
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 22: but it just never gets easier.

1944
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 4: It's brutal.

1945
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 6: And he was the only starter on this team under

1946
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 6: contract next year, and now this is kind of three

1947
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 6: years where he's had season ending injuries, and so you

1948
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 6: have to ask yourself how much can we You know,

1949
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 6: it's three for three, right, so you can't count on

1950
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 6: seventeen games from Dwan Jones at this point, which is devastating.

1951
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:46,640
Speaker 4: Again, another one of my favorite.

1952
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 6: Guys, Cornelius Lucas guys gave up nine pressures on thirty

1953
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 6: seven pass sets. That is not great. Katie Levinson gave

1954
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 6: up four. On the other side, our tackles were I'd

1955
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 6: have to imagine just looking at their raw grade numbers,

1956
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 6: two of the low graded past blocking tackles in the

1957
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 6: National Football League. In week three. We need to get

1958
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,679
Speaker 6: Jack Conklin back. And you know, tackles don't grow on trees.

1959
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 6: But the hoff Hanford Dixon every day on Brown's countdown

1960
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 6: every Sunday, says that he's got He lists the number

1961
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 6: of snaps that he believes he has in him for

1962
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 6: that particular game.

1963
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 4: So I think, what we're asking right now, how many

1964
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:22,640
Speaker 4: snaps can we get out of you?

1965
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 8: Off?

1966
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 7: Well? Players cutting lower by the day. I actually just

1967
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 7: texted with the Browns doctors. I'm like, that left knee

1968
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 7: is not straightening out right now. I may need to

1969
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 7: get a little picture next.

1970
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 22: Time in him in town to maybe get a little

1971
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:39,600
Speaker 22: cortizone injection because she's not the way she used to

1972
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 22: be even a couple of weeks ago. So I'll give

1973
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 22: you a couple snaps, but they may be needing to

1974
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 22: get the body bags warm for me after a couple

1975
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 22: of plays.

1976
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just the reality of this. I mean again

1977
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:54,600
Speaker 2: of no fault of his own. I mean, it's just

1978
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:57,679
Speaker 2: that's a and that's a brutal one. It's a freak one.

1979
01:28:57,760 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 6: And you know, my mind always is like, well, what

1980
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 6: if he was doing that, you know, left tackle, if

1981
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:03,919
Speaker 6: they didn't make the change for a variety of reasons

1982
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 6: this week that you know, would we still have to

1983
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 6: wan just him and MJ are my dudes.

1984
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 4: And it's just such a bummer.

1985
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 6: We have any three full games and all right, they're out,

1986
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 6: but we got to find a way to get Jack

1987
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 6: Conklin out there because this is this is a tough

1988
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 6: situation right now for the Cleveland Browns at tackle. And look,

1989
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 6: the reality is it is hard enough to play offense

1990
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 6: in the NFL, but when you know that your compromise

1991
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 6: off the edges, it just forces you, you know, to

1992
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 6: have two tight ends on wings where they're both chipping,

1993
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 6: or bring a running back down to the wing where

1994
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 6: he's chipping, and you know it affects your timing in

1995
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:38,440
Speaker 6: the passing game. In fact, some many guys are functionally

1996
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:40,759
Speaker 6: in the routes and the kind of routes and concepts

1997
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 6: you can run.

1998
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I.

1999
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 4: Mean we need to get the ball down the field.

2000
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 4: Takes time.

2001
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 7: That's that's the thing.

2002
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 22: Like everything starts with this offense, with the run game,

2003
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 22: and not having Jack and not having your two starting

2004
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:54,080
Speaker 22: tackles out there, it's going to be much more difficult

2005
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 22: to get the run game going. And if you can't

2006
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 22: run it, how are you going to throw the ball

2007
01:29:57,560 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 22: down the field? Which is something that we haven't been

2008
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 22: able to do, and defense is are figuring that out

2009
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 22: very quickly and then taking away all the short stuff,

2010
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 22: which makes the short passes even harder then, and so

2011
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 22: you're at some point are going to have to get

2012
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:10,640
Speaker 22: the ball down the field. But if you have to

2013
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 22: manufacture it with keeping two of your five eligible receivers

2014
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 22: in to help block the edges, well, now you've got

2015
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:19,639
Speaker 22: three guys running down the field and they've got five

2016
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 22: guys in coverage. So the numbers do not look good

2017
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 22: when you're not able to get all five of your

2018
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 22: receivers out there quickly, and it's going to make it

2019
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 22: even more difficult for an offense that's been stubbing their

2020
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 22: toe in the past game all season.

2021
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 2: Well, this isn't there's no such thing as good news

2022
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 2: in a scenario like this. But the silver lining is

2023
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 2: you can try to figure it out amidst a win

2024
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 2: and that helps to a certain degree. Haff great, talking

2025
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 2: to you as always, buddy, But about your time there

2026
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 2: He goes the Joe Thomas half hour of the program

2027
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 2: on this fine victory Monday, and that was Cleveland Brown's

2028
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 2: Daily as well.

2029
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:53,599
Speaker 3: We're back tomorrow for more fun.

2030
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:56,759
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2031
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