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Speaker 2: Ava is on the phone today for our first date

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Speaker 2: follow up, and she went on a date with a

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Speaker 2: guy named Justin, but now she's getting ghosted. So in

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Speaker 2: a few minutes we'll call him and see if you'll

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Speaker 2: tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her

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Speaker 2: another date. The first Ava, how long has it been

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Speaker 2: since you heard from Justin?

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Speaker 1: Oh, my god, I've been like a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I've actually been reaching out to him.

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Speaker 1: And the first time I reached out to him, he said,

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Speaker 1: have a good day, and then I never heard anything

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Speaker 1: back from him.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you reached out to him again after that,

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Speaker 3: have a good day?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, it feels like really weird to keep

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Speaker 1: reaching out to this guy, especially if his only response

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Speaker 1: is have a good day.

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Speaker 4: I'm worried.

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Speaker 1: It's like making me feel really desperate. But at the

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Speaker 1: same time, I really thought we had something. I thought

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Speaker 1: we really connected, and I don't know, I guess just

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Speaker 1: at like one point during our date, I was talking

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Speaker 1: about my job, and you know how thankful I was

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Speaker 1: to have my job and I accidentally call my boss attracted,

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Speaker 1: and I'm wondering if maybe that was like a red

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Speaker 1: flag for him. But I didn't mean it in that way,

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Speaker 1: and if that's how we took it, I'm I'm honestly

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Speaker 3: Okay, well that sounds a little bit juicy. Can we

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Speaker 3: go backwards though, and talk about how we got to

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Speaker 3: that point, like how was your date other than that?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god?

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, so obviously I had a great time,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I was just thinking the whole time,

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Speaker 1: like basically we started out at happy hour, which a

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Speaker 1: lot of my friends said that wasn't a correct way

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Speaker 1: feeling about him. And you know, the funny thing is

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Speaker 1: is he's got a great sense of humor. He's athletic.

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Speaker 1: Like we played tickleball and it was like I'd never

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Speaker 5: Then I was like, yeah, well, basically we played pick

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Speaker 5: a ball and then went to happy Hours, so fell

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Speaker 4: But you know the thing is, after a.

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Speaker 1: While, I was that that was all that there was

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Speaker 1: with us, just like kind of going to a bar

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Speaker 4: He showed me how to play darts. You know, we

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Speaker 4: shared a.

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Speaker 1: Bowl of peanuts, and eventually we did go back to

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Speaker 1: his place, where things got a little you know, heated,

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Speaker 1: and I haven't been with anyone in a really long time,

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Speaker 1: so I'm worried.

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Speaker 4: I also may have just bespread with signals.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I guess I'm.

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Speaker 1: Just worried that, you know, going back to his place

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Speaker 1: idea of that that's really all I was looking for,

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Speaker 1: and I kind of thought I was putting it out

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Speaker 4: For a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: So, Yeah, maybe going to his place afterwards was not

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Speaker 1: the best example for me to, you know, try to

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Speaker 1: make it work with a guy like this. And maybe

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Speaker 1: that's why he's ghosting me. Is if I'm coming on

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Speaker 1: too strong and he's under the impression that all I

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Speaker 1: I just feel so uncomfortable. I really want to go

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Speaker 1: back and spend some time with him. I felt like

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Speaker 1: we had a really good time, but now I feel

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Speaker 3: At what point in all of that did it come

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, this is embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: Basically, I was connected to my boss in such a

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Speaker 1: way I live with him. Okay, I'm a nanny, so

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Speaker 1: I actually live with my How they actually kind of

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Speaker 1: like hooked us up and you know, told us that

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Speaker 1: told Justin that, like, I was a really cool person

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Speaker 1: of fun. Yeah, I think he even told I think

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Speaker 1: he even told Justin that I was really cute. So again,

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Speaker 1: I'm worried that was like another.

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Speaker 4: Red Flager Justine for Justin. So I do think maybe

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Speaker 4: the fact that I may have.

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Speaker 1: Accidentally just that I thought he was cute, you know,

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Speaker 1: after we were talking about how we were hooked up

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Speaker 1: is is, as soon as I said that out loud,

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Speaker 1: I realized it was totally the wrong thing to say,

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Speaker 1: and I tried to kind of like backtrack a little bit,

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Speaker 3: Okay, well we'll see. We have to figure it out

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Speaker 3: for you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, play a song, come back, and then call

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Speaker 2: him and see if you'll tell us why he's ghosting

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Speaker 2: you and maybe get you another date. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 2: thank you, do your first day follow up next. Right

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Speaker 2: in the middle of today's first date follow up, if

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Speaker 2: you're just joining us, Ava is on the phone and

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Speaker 2: she's getting ghosted by Justin. So we're about to call

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Speaker 2: him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting

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Speaker 2: her and maybe get her another date. But before we

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Speaker 2: do that, Ava, why do you catch everybody up in

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Speaker 2: your situation?

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Speaker 1: So basically, I'm a nanny, which means I live with

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Speaker 1: my employer, and my employer actually kind of set me

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Speaker 1: up with this guy, Justin, who's like really fun and

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Speaker 1: kind of amazing, and I thought our first date went

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Speaker 1: really well. You know, we played some sports, we went

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Speaker 1: to a bar. He actually showed me how the stars

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Speaker 1: really intimate. And I may have accidentally while we were

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Speaker 1: talking about my boss to set us up, I may

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Speaker 4: That I thought my boss was really hot.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, then after that he stopped reaching out to me,

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Speaker 1: and I actually made the effort to reach out to him,

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Speaker 1: and all he says to me would have a good day.

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Speaker 4: And I've never heard anything after that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, are you ready for us to call him? Yes? Please,

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Speaker 3: here we go. Hello, Hi, I speak to Justin. Please?

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Speaker 6: This is Justin.

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Speaker 3: Who's this?

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Speaker 5: Hi?

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Speaker 3: Justin? How are you?

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Speaker 2: My name is Jewbele and I host a radio show.

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Speaker 2: It's called The Jewel Show.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Justin, the show's here too. My name's Nina, Hi,

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Speaker 3: and I'm Victoria. How are you? I'm good?

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Speaker 6: Good? What do you guys? What do you guys need?

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Speaker 2: We got an email about you from somebody, and so

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Speaker 2: we need to call you.

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Speaker 3: Okay. We do a segment on our show. It's called

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Speaker 3: the First Aid follow Up.

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Speaker 2: What that is if you go out on a date

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Speaker 2: with somebody and then you end up ghosting them, that

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Speaker 6: Okay, all right, it's some interesting Do I know this person?

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming Yeah, you went out.

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Speaker 2: On a date with them and now you're not talking

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Speaker 2: to them. Do you have any idea that would be?

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Speaker 6: My goodness?

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Speaker 3: Uh Ava, maybe yes it is.

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Speaker 2: Again emailed us told us about your date and is

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Speaker 6: I mean, she was awesome. We had an incredible time,

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Speaker 3: Like we went out on a date.

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Speaker 6: I took her to play some pickle ball and then

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Speaker 6: You know, what was going out for a few months,

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Speaker 3: So she was that wasted, huh.

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Speaker 6: I mean, she wasn't like falling over like drunk, but

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Speaker 6: I mean she was definitely pretty boisterous and like I said,

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Speaker 6: And again she was super cool. If it wasn't like

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you for telling us, man, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Also all that you know that Ava is actually on

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Speaker 2: to you.

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Speaker 5: Oh my Goshny justin Ava here.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Hey, Well what's up?

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Speaker 3: Are you?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 1: You know, honestly, I'm really embarrassed by this whole situation,

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Speaker 1: and I am I'm actually extremely sorry. I guess I

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I love having a good time,

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Speaker 6: and I love getting crazy and blown off steam because

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Speaker 6: we all need to do that. But it was I mean,

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Speaker 6: you were like, you know, grinding up against the bartender.

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Speaker 6: Were like, I felt like you were florting with everybody

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Speaker 1: You I was grinding on the bar center Like, I

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Speaker 6: You know, you remember the dance floor.

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Speaker 3: It was back by where they get the new glasses.

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Speaker 4: I don't remember the dance floor, Oh oh my goodness.

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Speaker 3: That night.

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Speaker 6: You sure remember the dance floors. But it that way,

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Speaker 6: as said about everybody else in the place that was

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Speaker 3: You were you were ready.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember any of that, and honestly, I guess

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Speaker 1: I don't even really remember how much I drank that night.

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Speaker 6: Is this like a normal like when you go out?

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Speaker 6: I mean, do you get that hammered like every single

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 4: Just then?

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I haven't really been out like that so long,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't believe you actually remember me

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Speaker 1: grinding up on just the bartender and doing shots like

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm really normally not like that.

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Speaker 1: Justin I may have just been like really nervous again,

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Speaker 1: like it's just been so long since I've been out, and.

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Speaker 4: I'm you know, even dated that. I definitely was neru

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Speaker 4: that night. I guess maybe I just tried to compensate,

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Speaker 4: you know, by.

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Speaker 1: You know, having a little to drink and maybe letting

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Speaker 1: loose and you know, reflecting back on that, that was

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, don't get me wrong, I had a

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Speaker 6: I was just worried, like, you know, the next time

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Speaker 6: I go out or we go to another club where

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Speaker 6: we go to a friend's party, I mean, is it

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Speaker 6: like every time I bring when there's alcohol around, Is

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Speaker 3: A big issue?

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Speaker 6: And I just, you know, that's the kind of thing

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Speaker 6: I'll worry about, you know, moving forward, if we you know,

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Speaker 6: if we end up, you know, continuing this relationship, all right.

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Speaker 1: I actually really understand exactly where you're coming from. But

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Speaker 1: I just, in full honesty, that's not the behavior that

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Speaker 1: I do all the time. I am a better person

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Speaker 1: than that. I hold myself to a higher standard. So

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Speaker 1: it's just like, I really guess, just thinking back on

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Speaker 1: that night, I don't even recognize myself and more importantly,

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Speaker 1: I don't recognize or remember half the things I did.

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Speaker 2: Well justin would you like to go on another day

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Speaker 2: with Ava? Then we'll pay for it?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I had such a great time, and

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Speaker 6: I really do like you a lot. And again, I

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Speaker 6: just just trying to look, you know, a few months

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Speaker 6: down the line, if we start, especially when I start

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Speaker 6: bringing around family and posive I'm friends and possibly even family.

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Speaker 6: And you know, if you said this is kind of

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Speaker 6: a one off type incident, I mean, I'll take your

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Speaker 6: word for it, And I mean I don't think i'd

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Speaker 6: be down to God again, if you're if you're into.

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Speaker 1: It, I mean I would really love to, you know,

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Speaker 1: have a second date, and more importantly, I cannot wait

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Speaker 1: to party and grind up against your mom.

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Speaker 3: Juble's first day follow up