WEBVTT - Episode 32: The Captain and his guest Jason Quitt bring you possible UFO connections! 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:04.760 You're listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast DAM 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:09.840 Paranormal podcast network, where we offer you podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:13.760 and the unexplained. Get ready now for Beyond Contact with 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:14.640 Captain Rong. 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:24.639 Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:28.680 opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:33.920 only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:38.400 to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:41.600 and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:45.280 your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:57.120 Hey everyone, it's Captain Ron and each week on Beyond Contact, 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:01.000 we'll explore the latest news in upology, discuss some of 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:04.640 the classic cases, and bring you the latest information from 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:07.640 the newest cases as we talk with the top experts. 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:14.039 Welcome to Beyond Contact. I'm Captain Ron, and today we're 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.560 going to be speaking with Jason Quitt. Jason's been studying 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:20.360 various modalities and spiritual practices from teachers from around the world. 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:24.280 From his auto body experiences, Jason has received information on 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:28.680 numerous energetic systems of healing and spiritual development. He has 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.720 had various contacts from a wide variety of beings which 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.319 will be getting into today, and he has continued his 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:39.080 journey into the ancient systems of mysticism, metaphysics, wellness and 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:42.760 shamanism to this day. Most importantly, he is genuinely a 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:47.199 super super nice guy, probably because he's Canadian. Hey, Boddy, 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:48.840 good seeing you, Jason, how are you. 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:51.760 I'm good, good to see you too, and happy to 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:54.200 be here finally and having this conversation with. 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.320 You in snow filled Canada right now. 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.040 Huh it's cold, absolutely yeah. 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.919 So Jason, you know your work is in a vast 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:04.720 range of areas, like I just mentioned on the intro there, 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:08.920 from spirituality to mysticism, metaphysics. But you know this show 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:12.440 we try to focus on UFOs and alien and I 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.240 know that you've looked into these phenomenon as well, because 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:17.480 you and I have discussed them in the past. So 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:20.840 if there was this catastrophe and a world leader gets 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:24.320 stuck on an elevator with Jason Quitt knowing nothing about 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:26.600 this subject, and he asked you, so, what's behind the 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.080 UFO phenomenon? What would you tell him? 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.919 I would say that we need to figure out what 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:36.560 the UFO phenomenon is and put it into different categories. 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.640 And I think this is where people get tripped up 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.840 in this community, is that there's so much going on 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:46.160 in this phenomenon and it all kind of gets pushed 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:48.560 all together in this one big ball of this is 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:53.240 what the UFO phenomenon is. After many, many years of 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:57.440 experiences and you know, hearing and studying all these different 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:02.920 sightings anything from experiencers to government whistleblowers and things like this, 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:05.680 I found that we need to kind of like place 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:09.240 things in certain categories. You know, going back many years, 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:13.440 there's always been this kind of conflict between experiencers and 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.120 the nuts and bolts technological things of you know, what 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.320 we see in the sky, is it a metallic ship? 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:18.600 Is it? 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:22.200 You know? What is this technology? So what I would 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.400 say to people is that we have to kind of 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.440 look at each event as their own unique thing, and 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.160 then we can put it into their categories or into 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:36.280 their filing cabinet. You know, I've had experiences typical experiences 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.960 where you know, you could observe something physically in the air, 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:45.120 and I've been a witness to these events with people 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:48.120 around me up in Canada, here, we get a lot 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:51.000 of these sightings. In fact, one of the two best 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:54.119 sightings I've ever had were just right by my house here. 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:56.640 And I live by a lake. It's called Lake Simcoe 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.720 out in Ontario. Before I even moved out here, I 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.360 went to a festival. There was a concert out here 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:04.840 on the lake and it was late at night, and 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.200 you know, everybody was done and the concert was over, 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:10.000 and the roadies, you know, they're putting the equipment away 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:12.760 and we're still out by the lake and over the 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:16.360 lake this it looked like this gigantic plasma ship. It 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:21.200 was deep orange red, like this glowing big orb moving 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:25.159 slowly over the water. And you know, I'm just my 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:27.120 girlfriend at the time, which was now my wife. She 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.159 went to use the washroom. So I'm standing by the 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:32.000 stage and I'm watching this thing go over the water 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:35.320 and it just fades out. It's like a you know 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.960 when you have like a dimmer switch on your lighting system. 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.919 It just dimmed out and then gone like it just 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:44.000 completely disappeared in front of our eyes. I remember the 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.039 one of the roadies was just near me and he 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.240 looked right at me and he's like, did we just 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:52.960 see a UFO? And I'm like, yeah, I'm pretty sure 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:55.840 we just saw something like a UFO, because that was 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.479 probably the coolest UFO I've ever seen, like this big 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:03.240 glowing orb and it just like just disappeared. And my 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:05.119 thought at the time was like, if it was close 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:06.960 enough and I had like a stone in my hand 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:10.000 and I threw the stone, it would just go right 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:13.520 through this thing. So you know, what is that phenomenon? 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:16.520 And then later when my wife and I we moved 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.400 up here, so this is many years after that incident. 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:22.120 You know, we're driving back home from a friends around 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:26.200 Christmas time, and so it's all snowy, it's late at night, 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:28.840 there's really no one on the road, and on the 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:31.080 left side of the driving side of the car, over 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:36.000 the forest, we see this craft that could only be 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:39.720 described as the classic what was it called the Triangle 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.680 and the teeth three b oh sure, yeah, you know, 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:46.200 And it was completely silent, It was hovering, It was 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.320 moving very very slowly. It had the three lights and 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.080 the light in the center. I believe the lights around 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.440 it were white, so three white lights and a red 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:58.000 light in the middle, and it hovered over the forest 0:05:58.200 --> 0:05:59.880 and me and my wife just were at the stop 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.799 and we're looking at this thing and we just can't 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.039 believe that this is what we're looking I'm like, okay, 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:06.920 we're going to follow it. So we started to follow 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:08.320 it down the road. 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:09.680 The last thing that I would do. 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:13.000 And by the way, we were following it and it 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:15.360 kind of curved around the city and we just kind 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:18.480 of we lost it. But it was like wow. In 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.840 my thought at that time is you know, this is 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:24.839 a technology. Like it literally looked like a ship, you know, 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.200 made with nuts and bolts. This is a real thing. 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:29.280 If I threw a stone at it, it would hit it, 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.480 it would bounce off. So in that category, I didn't 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:35.080 think that it was like an alien or UFO. My 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:38.720 only thought was this is some type of man made technology, 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:42.200 some type of military craft, or something that we don't 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:45.640 know about, because it was so physical, it was so 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:48.359 in front of you, and it had technology that we 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.159 don't know yet. And so if someone said to me, 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:54.760 that's an alien, I would say, well, I wouldn't go 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.760 that far. This looks definitely like a man made thing. 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:00.560 That's how close it was for me to see it. 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:02.440 You know, everybody will say, well, why didn't you take 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.320 a picture, Well, I was driving my car, you know, 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:07.480 and it was it was late, and it was only 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.400 for a very short time that we were able to 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.320 see this. And the funny thing is I did take 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:16.160 pictures of the orb one over the lake. Such a 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:18.400 weird thing because once I went back to the picture, 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.200 it just looked like a little red speck in my 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:23.600 phone pictures, like a black night sky with like a 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:26.840 red speck. There's nothing that would say that this is 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:30.120 a UFO. It could be absolutely anything, you know. So 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:33.800 it's very frustrating. And I'm a photographer, like I love photography, 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.200 I love videos, so I know that if I point 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:39.520 this camera up, it's not going to shoot anything. So 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:42.440 there is there is a frustration to this. And you 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:44.360 know now that I'm reminiscing, there was a time we 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:46.320 went to go visit friends out at the cottage by 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.760 another story by the lake, and it's late at night 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:51.320 and we're all sitting at the dock. Most of these 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:54.760 people aren't into UFOs whatsoever, right, And we're sitting on 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:56.960 this dock and there's a star in the sky. You know, 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:59.280 there's no clouds at all. There's a star in the 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:02.760 sky that was so bright that it basically bathed all 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:05.440 of us in this blue light, and it was so amazing, 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:07.760 Like even my friends would say, Wow, this is a 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.920 really bright star, and we're like, yeah, this is a 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:12.920 really bright sky. It looked like a spotlight was on 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.880 us on this dock by the lake, and we're sitting 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:18.880 and just talking. We're we don't even really tune into 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:22.520 this is something other than a star. And then it's 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.600 just turned off, like just someone just flipped the switch, 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:27.320 and then there's no more and there's no clouds in 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:29.520 the sky, and we kind of all look at each 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:32.080 other kind of dumbfoundly, like what just happened? Like this 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:34.880 beautiful light was with us for it seemed like at 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.360 least ten minutes, and then suddenly it's not there in 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:40.880 the sky. Very very strange. So for me, there is 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:46.160 this UFO phenomenon, undoubtedly, and you know, we've experienced it 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.120 multiple times on a level that we can't explain any 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.160 of it. So this is why we have this intrigue 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:57.120 in phenomena, because the phenomenon is happening. It's happening to individuals, 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.480 and it's happening to groups of individuals like you know, 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:02.600 being out with your friends and seeing these things. But 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:05.760 how I got connected to you, how I got connected 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:09.720 to this community is a whole other kin of worms. 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:13.400 It's a whole other story. I would say about around 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:15.880 two thousand and two, so we're going back over twenty 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:20.679 years now. I started to have these experiences, these spiritual experiences, 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:25.000 out of body experiences. From the perspective that I was 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:28.520 in at that time, this was spiritual. It had nothing 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:31.040 to do with UFOs, it had nothing to do with aliens. 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:35.000 And I was having these kind of shamanic experiences of 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:40.200 journeying out of the body, going into different timelines, remembering 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.679 past lives. So for me, it was a very shamanic 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:48.720 type experience. And I started to have sleep paralysis, and 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:50.720 that's what really got me out of my body was 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:54.640 sleep paralysis, which many people experience being or waking up 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.320 in the middle of the night having their body frozen, 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:03.320 and it's a quite terrible flying experience. Basically, you wake 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:07.040 up in the middle of the night, completely frozen, paralyzed, 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:10.679 you cannot move, You may hear very strange sounds, like 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:15.160 mechanical sounds, you may see lights, and you're basically screaming 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:18.160 in your mind to wake up, move a finger, move 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:21.080 an arm, get out of whatever this is. This is 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:24.480 it doesn't feel good. And you know, one night, I 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:28.160 just couldn't take that experience anymore. And I was trying 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.520 to wake myself up, and I'm shaking violently in my 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:32.640 body to you know, wake up, wake up. 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:33.000 Wake up. 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:35.920 And I shook so hard, popped myself out of my 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.880 body and it was the first out of body experience 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:40.559 through the sleep paralysis. 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.200 We're going to need to take a quick break right here, Jason. 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:45.240 I'm going to come back with asked Jason, what else 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:48.160 that could have been? You're listening to Beyond Contact right 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:50.880 here on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal 0:10:50.920 --> 0:11:25.040 podcast network. We are back on Beyond Contact. We're talking 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:29.760 to Jason Quick and he's had these out of body experiences. Hey, Jason, 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:33.560 you know, oftentimes sleep paralysis you were referring to is 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:38.280 associated with alien abduction phenomenon, and oftentimes people that don't 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:41.160 believe in such a thing think that maybe what's happening 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:44.280 to these people who claim to have had an alien experience? 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:47.160 How do you make that distinction that this wasn't just 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.480 sleep paralysis and something going on? How do you know 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:52.800 that you popped yourself out of reality, and how do 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:54.640 you know that that's what happened here? 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:58.160 Well, it wasn't the first time. So I first popped 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:02.440 out and as I wrote, to my ceiling, which many 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:07.120 people describe in near death experiences. So I found myself 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:10.679 on my ceiling looking down at my body in the bed, 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:14.040 which was quite a terrifying experience. It's also quite a 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:19.400 sobering experience. And I call this the cosmic slap. It's 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:23.960 like an undeniable feeling that you know immediately that you 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:27.280 are more than a physical body. Did I just kill myself? 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:28.440 A dead? 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:30.520 Other words, you feel like you have a soul or 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:34.320 a consciousness or something bigger than your just your physical avatar, 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:35.800 if you will. Is that correct? 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:41.360 Correct? It's a moment of realization of separation. You are 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:43.920 in a body, you can call it the spirit body 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:47.120 or astral body, whatever that conscious body is. You are 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:51.160 that body in that instant, and you're experiencing that body, 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:54.360 which is not your physical body, and you're looking down 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:58.960 and experiencing being outside your physical body, and you literally 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.520 see your fas coal body in the bed. 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.559 This is what we also hear from near death experiencers. 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:07.720 Oftentimes they're on the surgery table, they rise above their body, 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:10.120 they see the surgeon doing something to them, right, same 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:11.559 sort of thing exactly. 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.960 So it's very fearful immediately because, like I say, it's 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:19.439 like a slap of reality. You immediately understand. 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.800 The lap of reality. It feels like it's a slap 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:24.280 of a whole new reality. Ye right, I mean it's 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:27.160 like this whole different frame of reference for what your 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:27.720 life is. 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:33.839 Yeah, so you gain a very different dimension, a dimensional 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:38.480 experience of this reality. When you were talking about alien experiences, 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.640 I understand that feeling because when I was put in 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:45.760 these sleep paralysis experiences, I felt like I wasn't alone. 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.480 I can feel something walking around the room with me. 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.960 At some times, I can feel something sitting on the 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.240 bed and it's a physical feeling, like you can feel 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:58.079 somebody walking in the room, and when they sit on 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:02.080 the bed, you feel the impression of the mattress, like 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.080 something is there with you. We're talking two thousand and 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:08.720 two here, So there is no YouTube to watch videos 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.160 of people, you know, I actually went to the library 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.319 to try to find some books. At that moment in time, 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:18.440 you go to what's culturally acceptable, like what's in pop culture, 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:23.240 which is alien abduction or demon possession. There's really like 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:26.040 no other two avenues of what's going on in your 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:27.960 bedroom in the middle of the night. It's either alien 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:30.720 abduction or demons. You know. I say this a lot, 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:33.880 but I became very religious, very quickly. I started to 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:37.080 pray to any god that would help the situation. You 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:41.280 become very very religious because you're afraid you don't know 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:45.440 what's happening, and there's clearly something happening. So I completely 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:49.040 understand where someone would go into those avenues of alien 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:52.600 abduction or demon possession or things of that nature. But 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:55.280 what scared me the most so I'm above the bed, 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.480 I'm looking at myself on the bed else like, I 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:00.760 was straight as a board on my back, hands by 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:02.680 my side, and my eyes were wide open. So it 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:06.600 was a freaky looking Jason on that bed and awake, 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:11.360 consciously awake, out of my body, freaking out. I then 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:15.600 immediately realized I wasn't alone in this room, And as 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:18.760 I got brave enough, I looked at the foot of 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.640 my bed and there was a very tall being standing 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:23.440 at the foot of my bed, and it just looked 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:28.080 like a very tall shadow, like a cloaked being, but 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.800 it had form, like it wasn't like a shadow you 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:34.560 can see through. It was a form. It's exactly what 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:36.720 we see as like say, like the Grim Reaper, but 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.360 without the sickle. So it's just this big shadow, this 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:43.360 big cloaked being. And you know that scared me so much. 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:46.640 I got so scared because you think, like, Okay, I 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.400 just died out of my body. See myself in bed, 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.880 there's this grim Reaper looking thing standing at the foot 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.479 of my bed. I'm clearly dead. 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.119 How do you not immediately pop out of sleep paralysis 0:15:58.120 --> 0:15:59.400 and head for the men's room, because that's what I 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:00.280 would Probably. 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:06.359 You're kind of confused and amazed. There is an amazement 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:08.560 part about this, you know. And you hear this a 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.800 lot with experiencers. They all say the same thing. It 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:15.920 feels more real than real life. Wow, you know. So 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:18.160 that's why I say it's a dose of reality. It's 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:21.040 this cosmic slap where it's like, you know, what you're 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:25.200 experiencing is real. In fact, it feels more real than 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:28.480 what you're experiencing in life. So I got so scared. 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:31.240 I got sucked back into my body and I woke up. 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.760 Heart is pounding out of my chest obviously, and I 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:40.200 just could not believe what I just experienced. Now, after 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:44.480 that experience, I'd never had sleep paralysis again in that way. 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.280 And when I mean that way, I didn't have control 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:49.960 over my sleep paralysis. It would just come in a 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:53.040 wave and I'd be stuck in it. Now because it 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:57.120 was such an incredible experience, even though it was terrifying, 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:00.840 there was something inside of me that's said, I need 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:04.160 to do everything that's possible to do this again. 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.680 So such a profound experience. This is how you separated 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.359 from it was a dream where it was something else 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:14.359 because it was so overwhelming. You're saying that you believe 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.000 at your core that it's true. 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:22.760 Yes, absolutely so, because it was so life shatteringly amazing 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:26.080 in the sense that this was something that is definitely 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:28.560 in my mind. It was never a dream. It was 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:32.879 not a hallucination. This was an act of experience, and 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:38.159 it's an active experience that people have had throughout human history. 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:41.359 You know, it doesn't matter what you believe, what culture 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:44.240 you're from, or what time of history you're from, people 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:48.160 have had this. So for me, it's a human experience. 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:50.720 You know, every like I say, everybody is going to 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:52.320 experience this in their life. 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:54.880 Well, there's no doubt that this has been either through 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:58.040 they name it different things, though it's oftentimes near death 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:01.680 experiences throughout history people claim to have had that sounds 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:04.200 very similar to what you experienced. That's the whole notion 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:07.000 of the soul, that there's a higher part of us 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:10.320 that's just occupying this avatar. So all of that ties 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:14.520 into you know, what we've heard throughout human history exactly. 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:19.119 And so I went the shamanic path. I went into 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:22.240 the healing world, and I sought out different teachers and 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:25.440 shawmans to try to help me explain this new world 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:28.400 and help me navigate it. All I wanted to do 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.760 was go back. So I started to do meditations and 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.639 cheegong and all these things, and I found that it's 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:36.800 almost like once you open the door, the door has opened. 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:38.920 Is it like what we're saying, it was more real 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.119 than reality. It felt so good to you that you 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:42.359 want to do it again. 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:48.280 Yeah, it's kind of like this curiosity, this overwhelming curiosity 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:51.040 of the phenomenon or the experience that you just got 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:52.160 a taste of something. 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:54.080 Did you want to prove to yourself that it did 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.560 in fact happen, or were you already convinced of that. 0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:58.560 No, there was no doubt in my mind that it 0:18:58.600 --> 0:18:59.000 was real. 0:18:59.400 --> 0:18:59.760 Okay. 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:03.639 The only thing in my mind was how do I 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:07.400 go back? And back then, you know, I was still 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:10.560 at my mother's house. I didn't have a girlfriend. You know, 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:14.600 I had lots of time to figure stuff out. Now 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:16.520 it's more difficult when you have a family and you 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:19.240 have things you have to do. But back then, all 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:21.240 that was on my mind was trying to get back there. 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:26.320 And so I saw meditation, sought spiritual teachers, and I 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:28.600 found that I could put myself back into the sleep 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:32.280 Proalyss estate through meditation. When I say meditation, all it 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:35.480 means is going to sleep at night, but keeping my 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:39.840 mind active and aware. It's almost like your mind is awake. 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:45.040 And then you're meditating and you're being aware of the 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:48.679 body process of shutting down. That's the only way I 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:52.200 can explain it. You're becoming aware of the sleep process 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:55.760 of your body shutting down, and then there's this window 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:59.159 where you feel your body kind of goes to sleep. 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:02.199 It's almost like you get this kind of warming, numbing 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:04.879 sensation and it's like once you kind of feel this. 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:09.159 Then it's almost like you're switching from one world to 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:13.240 the other world, and in that transition you can have 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:16.720 this pop out experience where you can have this astral 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:20.639 travel or just kind of pop out of this dimension 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:22.119 the three D reality. 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:25.439 This sounds awesome. I hate to say it reminds me 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:28.080 of people's giving their accounts of believe they or not 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:31.080 doing Heroin, where they said that it was so much 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:33.800 better than their reality that they wanted to do it again. 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:36.720 Not advocating for Heroin, just saying that I've heard those 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:38.760 accounts before. When we come back, we're going to talk 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:42.080 to Jason more about this experience and what he thinks 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:45.000 these beings could be and where they might be coming from. 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:47.760 You're listening to Beyond Contact on the iHeartRadio at Coast 0:20:47.760 --> 0:21:16.000 to Coast am Paranormal podcast Network. We are back on 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:18.840 Beyond Contact talking to Jason Quit. Jason, go ahead, pick 0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:21.760 it up. Where you're talking about your experience heading into nighttime, 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:23.400 you're going to go to sleep. What happens? 0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:26.479 Yeah, So basically, there is a we call it the 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:29.399 space in between, and it's the space in between waking 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:33.760 and dreaming and as you kind of go into that awareness. 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:36.560 It's like an altered state. You can say you're falling 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:40.440 asleep and you're witnessing your body going to sleep through meditation, 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:44.439 staying aware of all the feelings, everything that's happening. And 0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:46.560 then once your body kind of feels this kind of 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:49.919 warmth and this vibration going through it, it's almost like 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:53.639 you are in this window of popping out of time 0:21:53.720 --> 0:21:57.040 and space. And there's many ways of doing it with 0:21:57.119 --> 0:22:00.520 astral travel. There's a method called the rollout inside your 0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:03.439 body kind of roll out or push yourself out, but 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:05.240 it's not really a push. It's more like a will. 0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:08.080 You will yourself out. And the only way I could 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:11.719 describe it is when you drop out of this world 0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:14.159 or when you drop out of this dimension, you have 0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:17.439