1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to another episode of the Buck Sexton 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: Show with me now, the indefatigable, the formidable, the one 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: and only Raheem Kassam. He is the editor in chief 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: of the National Pulse and the host of Raheim Kassam Podcast, 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: a man whose knowledge and talents spans from global affairs 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: all the way down to the proper way to tie 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: a windsor not. Mister Raheem Kassam, good to have you on, sir. 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: What an introduction, and not least because you know from 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: a from a very arcane perspective, indefatigable is how the 10 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: British parliamentarian George Galloway of the far left once described 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: Saddam Hussein. So I'm delighted. I think the word existed 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: and was used in many other contexts for a long time. 13 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: Isn't it like an hms indefatigable or maybe it's a 14 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: long once or maybe that's a bit probably too long 15 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: to it to paint on the side of of a 16 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: boat of a battleship. But Raheem, you know, we've been 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 1: doing these conversations and the audience response has been great 18 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: because we're just getting really interesting people on to talk 19 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: about whatever is top of mind. So one way I like, 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: I like to start is just to get you to 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: tell me, right now, what in the world of politics. 22 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: We're going to cover a whole range of things here. 23 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: One of the world of politics gets you the most 24 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: fired up, Like what are you focused on? Yet? I 25 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: don't know about focus. Um, that's a word that escapes me. 26 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm kind of a scatter brain in politics. Um, it's 27 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: like books as well. I'm reading fifty at a time 28 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: and I never finished any of them. But something that 29 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: has occurred to me, you know, there are several things 30 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: that have occurred to me a lot recently, especially in 31 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: you know, with the Biden classified documents thing going on 32 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: in the background is the is the like I still 33 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: can't put my finger on who got Biden elected? Right, 34 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: and that and that bothers me as a as a 35 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: as a point, like when you look at Trump, people 36 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: say Bannon. You look at Obama, people say Jim Messner 37 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: and David Plath and David Axel, Rod Bush col Rove. 38 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: But there isn't one in Biden world. And I that 39 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: bothers me because of you know, so many different things, 40 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: so many different big question marks that were over the 41 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty election in general. But for there not to 42 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: be somebody out there doing ted talks and being on 43 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: the front cover of Time magazine being called the you know, 44 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: the man who got the most votes for a presidential 45 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: candidate in American history, is a pretty big thing that 46 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: you want to claim and and you know, a big, 47 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: big medallion that you want to wear around your neck, 48 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: but nobody seems to want to claim it, and that 49 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 1: bothers me. Yeah, well, there's certainly something going on right 50 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: now with his chief of staff is on the way 51 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: out there. There have just been news reports about that 52 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: that you're not going to have Ryan Clain anymore because 53 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: people have been It's really I think it an addenda 54 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: in many ways to your to your point here, which 55 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: is not only who's who's responsible for getting him elected, 56 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: but who is the person who's really calling the shots, 57 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: who's really running things, you know, behind the scenes. A 58 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: lot of people have said ron Klain the White House 59 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: chief of Staff now White House chief of staff, depending 60 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: on who it is. I think can matter a lot 61 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: or a little for an administration. Does any even really 62 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: remember the Trump White House chiefs of staff? I don't 63 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: think that you know, no one said, oh my gosh, 64 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: the days of Ryan's previous and uh and the you 65 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: know the guy with the Irish name who was you 66 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: know omb yeah, omb budget guy before that. Um, But 67 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: so you have Clain on the way out and this 68 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: guy's zigns I'm not sure how to say his name 69 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: even who was the COVID czar that we never heard about? 70 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: Really he's going to be taking over, so who actually 71 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: calls the shots for Biden? As he's leaving all the 72 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: classified all over the place and looking like he's constantly 73 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: confused Barack Obama and Susan Rice. I mean, that's kind 74 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: of one of the least well kept secrets here in Washington, DC, 75 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: is that most of most of what this regime is 76 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: currently doing comes from his previous boss that I think 77 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: you know. And Susan Rice was one of the names 78 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: that was floated. Now they're saying it's going to be 79 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: Jeff Zience. Jeff Ziens, by the way, an important character 80 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: to note, not just because of his World Economic Forum 81 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: billionaire credentials, but also because of, as you say this, 82 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: this covidsar who was a COVID zar but really quietly 83 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: and you have to understand this point in time. In 84 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, the United States is still one of 85 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: the only countries in the world that doesn't allow non 86 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: citizens in if they're not vaccinated. So Zience is still 87 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: doing the bidding of Big Covid behind the scenes, very quietly. 88 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: And the fact that he's being elevated now to this 89 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: this prestige position in America in politics, it's honestly, it's 90 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: like a It's like a pas on the back and 91 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: a thank you for continuing to do that on behalf 92 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: of you know, big farmer, big government, whatever you want to, 93 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, whatever you want to, you know, daub thepara 94 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: any human time, interrrational, reasonable world, where heim shouldn't the 95 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: guy who was the covids are who said that a 96 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: winter of death was coming for anybody who didn't get vaccinated. 97 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: That's a quote that you were going to overrun the 98 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: hospitals if you didn't get vaccinated. These were things that 99 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: he was saying in twenty twenty one, going into the 100 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: winter period. You would think that he should not only 101 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: be fired, but honestly shamed and and and removed ignominiously 102 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: from the public square. And yet he's now White House 103 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: chef of staff. It's a promotion which I think says 104 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: a lot about how the Democrat apparatus views COVID, even 105 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: at this stage. Yeah, but I'll go you one further. 106 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, again, as I say, this is 107 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: a this is a slap on the back for and 108 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: well done, old boy um for doing that. But is 109 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: it's worse than that? Right in any rational world? You 110 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: said in any rational world, Well, in any rational world, 111 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: the the person who put together the original COVID task 112 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: force should be susceptible to class action lawsuits from all 113 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: the people who lost their businesses, all the people who 114 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: lost their loved ones as a result of all of that. 115 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: And that person was Mike Pence. So you know, there's 116 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: blame to go around on all sides on this, especially 117 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: for those who got the ball rolling at that, you know, 118 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 1: the opening days of COVID. Let me ask and Jeff Zience. 119 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: Just just to conclude on the Jeff Zions point, you know, 120 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:40,559 Speaker 1: this for him is very much an opportunity to take 121 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: that kind of totalitarian mindset and run the Oval Office 122 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, No, absolutely, I mean it's it's like 123 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: they got there their trial run of communism. Now they're saying, Oh, 124 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: you're ready for the big leagues of being a Kami 125 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: at the highest level. Yeah, Raheem. You mentioned the Trump 126 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: or rather Pence, the Trump administration and COVID. 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I mean, I heard him 159 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: recently say that the vaccine saved hundreds of millions of lives. 160 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: I have been a huge Trump supporter. I like the 161 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: guy very much personally. I think he did phenomenal things 162 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: for our country as resident. The vaccine did not save 163 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of lives. So how do we deal 164 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: with this? What's going on? Yeah? So typically there has 165 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: been one critical area where you know, even Trump, even 166 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: the most ardent Trump supporters, will say, Okay, he has 167 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: a he has a blind spot on that. But given 168 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: that it's you know, his only massive blind spot, we're 169 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: willing to to not overlook it, but at least at 170 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: least forgive elements of it. And that was personnel, right, 171 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: The personnel choices that both the Trump administration made and 172 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: the Trumpet operation as it has been since after its presidency, 173 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: remain curious to a lot of people. And again, most 174 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: people understand that when they when they choose somebody, when 175 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: they go to bat for somebody, when they put their 176 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: eggs in the basket of a presidential candidate, that they're 177 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: not looking for perfection. That they're willing to say. You know, 178 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: no man is perfect, no woman is perfect. No candidate 179 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: will therefore be perfect. But in doing what he's been 180 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: doing over the last you know, a couple of years 181 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: now as it regards the big farmer vacciness, he's opening 182 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: up an unnecessary second weak spot as far as his 183 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: base is concerned. And there are major complaints about it now. 184 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: I do think, however, that a lot of people are 185 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: overestimating what that if impact is, and I think especially 186 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people who want other candidates to be 187 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: the president Republican president next time around, are certainly overestimating 188 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: the impact of that. But you're right to say that 189 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: I don't think it's doing Trump any good at all, 190 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: and it is in fact putting off some of his supporters. 191 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: The important part of this actually is what Ron de 192 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: Santis himself did. Since I alluded to it, I'll say it, 193 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: which is a course correction, and there's no reason that 194 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: Donald Trump can't make a course correction on this as well. 195 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: Early days of of COVID, the governor of Florida was 196 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: doing very similar things to a lot of the other 197 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: the governors. But but with you know, the end of 198 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: the thirty days to slow the spread, as a lot 199 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: of the rest of us did. And I hold my 200 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: hand up and say myself included here, we course corrected, right. 201 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: We realized what this thing was being used for. We 202 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: realized that, you know, European countries may want to do this, 203 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: the Chinese may certainly want to do this, but frankly, 204 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: it's not the American way, and you know RDS to 205 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: his credit course corrected. People with any level of I 206 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: might vote Trump next time around, will still forgive him 207 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: if he course corrects on this, and he's going to 208 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 1: have to. We all know he's going to We all 209 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: know he's going to turn around at some point and say, look, 210 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: I did what I was told was that it was 211 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: in the interest of the public. It was the time 212 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: when my administration came together the best. We delivered the 213 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: things that were expected to be delivered of us, even 214 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: though people said we weren't able to do it. We 215 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,479 Speaker 1: then saw collusion even between the health industry and pharmaceutical 216 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: lobby to delay the rollout of the vaccine itself. And 217 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: yet I still get no credit. Well, you know that's 218 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: all well and good, but he's going to come out, 219 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: and he's going to have to come out, and I 220 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: think he will come out at some point and say, 221 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: you know, well I was tricked just like the rest 222 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: of you. Where do you come down at this point 223 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: on the looming showdown that you know, everyone is expecting 224 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: Trump and De Santis in a primary. Now, I know 225 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: Trump has announced De Santis has not. Who knows, I'm 226 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: a big proponent of saying nobody can predict the future, 227 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: and all you can do is look back at people's predictions, 228 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: and you know that nobody can predict the future. They 229 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: can get it right. They can get binaries meaning a 230 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: yes or no or you know, A or B right 231 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: about fifty percent of the time, which makes sense, right, 232 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: people will get it as often as they don't when 233 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: they're trying to predict events. For the most part. That 234 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: all said, with all that throat clearing in place, are 235 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: you already determined that it's one or the other in 236 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: terms of what you think is best for the Republican 237 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: Party or are you in wait and see mode? Yeah, 238 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: I feel like the zen Master. It's that moment from 239 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: Charlie Wilson's wool, you know, the zen moster says, we'll see, 240 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: we'll see. But but you know that the foundation is 241 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: clearly obviously there for Rhonda Santists. It's there amongst the 242 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: people around him, it's there amongst the donor class that 243 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: have clearly said that they're on his side. It's there 244 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: in terms of a level of the grassroots support now 245 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: who say they want him to run. It's it's it's 246 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: visible to me that everything that you would want in 247 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: place for a presidential run, Rhonda Santist has seems to 248 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: have in place. Whether or not that's of his doing 249 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: is another concern there are. I'm currently reading a book 250 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: by Rhonda Santists. Not many people have read it or 251 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: even know that he wrote a book, but he did. 252 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: This was before he was a public figure at all, really, 253 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: and it was during the Obama administration. And he goes 254 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: into quite a lot of detail about constitutional law, the founders, 255 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: the Federalist papers, and it's it's so clear that he's 256 00:13:53,800 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: a genuinely like brilliant constitutional mind that the the writing 257 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: is excellent for somebody who hadn't written a book before. 258 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: The framing is excellent. The points he makes throughout the 259 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: book a point and not talking points, you know. And 260 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: I remember once interviewing him back and I think it 261 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: was twenty fifteen or sixteen, and saying to him at 262 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: the time, look, I hope you don't mind me saying, 263 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: but I think you've got it, you know, the look, 264 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: the family, the experience, the awards and the military, so 265 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: on and so forth. The problem I have here is 266 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: almost like Trump as well, is the people around him. 267 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that Ronda Santis has a team around 268 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: him that a lot of people will find palatable. He 269 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: certainly doesn't have a lot of donuts, big donors that 270 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people will find palatable. And so when 271 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: I said in the last conversation that we were having 272 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: on the last topic about what can be forgiven and 273 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: what can't be I think a lot of Republicans will 274 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: air on the side if it's between Trump and DeSantis 275 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: with better the devil you know than the de the 276 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: devil you don't. And they will also be asking a 277 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: lot of questions about, well, you know, who is advising 278 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: him on foreign policy? He's been He's saber rattled a 279 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: lot on the Middle East and Iran and Israel and 280 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: all of these things. Is he going to be another Bush? 281 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: He will have as many questions to answer on those 282 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: debate stages as Donald Trump will, and I think people 283 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: should rejoice about that. I think the Republican base deserves 284 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: a full and rough and hard and difficult primary because 285 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: for two reasons, not just because it allows for those 286 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: arguments to be had and those what might seem to 287 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: be sort of niche issues to come out, but also 288 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: it trains that person up whoever you know becomes the nominee. 289 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: It trains them up for the bigger occasions, the presidential debates, 290 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: the campaign itself. And I think if Trump lacked anything 291 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: last time in his campaign, it was that he didn't 292 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: go through a primary, right, he didn't get to warm 293 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: up before the big fight. Yeah, and if you're a boxer, 294 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: if you're any sport, really you don't want to go 295 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: out there for the championship and not have actually done 296 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: your thing for weeks or even even months beforehand. So 297 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: I can see. I think you're right by the way 298 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: that it's almost a stone upon which the blade can 299 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: be sharpened for any politician. But on our side, we're 300 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: certainly going to need that given the media reality that 301 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: we're up against. I want to ask you about the 302 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: royal family Rahem, which I will do in just a 303 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: second in case anyone couldn't figure it out from his accent, 304 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: which I know many of us are jealous off because 305 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: it is super fancy and adds a level of gravitass 306 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: to everything that he says. Raheem is from the United Kingdom, 307 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: and I have some questions about this. There's this book 308 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: out there's an obsession in the media with the author 309 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: of this book, and what is this whole thing with monarchy. 310 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about it in a second. But 311 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, there are data breaches that are happening all 312 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: the time, and the big ones can be huge, like 313 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: two million email addresses that got out there from a 314 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,239 Speaker 1: Twitter hack. 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You 342 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: could be like I just think to myself, I don't 343 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: understand how anyone can see this as as anything other 344 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: than I don't know, I viewed as as entirely ridiculous. 345 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: Why why do people care so much, both in the 346 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: UK and here at home about say the spare Prince 347 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: Harry biography and the Meghan Markel back and forth, all 348 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: this stuff. I look at this and I'm like, these 349 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: are these are celebrities basically like this, I might as 350 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: well be watching, you know, the latest on the Kardashians, 351 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: you know who they're dating or something. I just don't care. 352 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: Am I missing something? Please explain to me, because you 353 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: actually come from Great Britain. Go ahead, well I do, 354 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: and I actually come from a historic county called Middlesex. 355 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: And I just saw that your your American Giant hoodies 356 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: are made in Middlesex, North Carolina, so we have a 357 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: we have a link there. I am a monarchist, and 358 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: I'm a proud one. I believe in the institution of monarchy. 359 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: I believe in having a part of your government being 360 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: there for the long haul, and therefore having the nation's 361 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: interests at heart, rather than re election or fundraising or 362 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: anything like that at heart. I don't believe in a 363 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: in a tyrannical or dictatorship. I don't believe in a 364 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: in a vast amounts of executive authority being vested in 365 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: the crown. But there is a difference. There is a 366 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: difference between the crown right, the monarchy is an institution, 367 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: and the royal family. The royal family, like you say, 368 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: can become very much like watching reality television and the 369 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: tabloid papers love to make it that right. Megan Markel 370 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 1: is really the reason that we're having this conversation here, 371 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: and I'll remind you where she comes from, and it 372 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: is not the United Kingdom, so so so thank you 373 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,239 Speaker 1: for that. And of course the last big blow up 374 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: that we had really, I mean, you know, if you 375 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: exclude Diana from it in and of herself, was you know, 376 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: Wallace Simpson another American who got embroiled in the royal 377 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: family and caused the king to abdicate. This is amazing 378 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: blaming America for the British royal families mess ups. Look, 379 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: I will take responsibility for Christopher Steele if you take 380 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: responsibility for Megan Markle. That's all I'm saying, right, unbelievable, unbelievable. 381 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: But so you think that there is a role for it, Oh, massive, 382 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: I mean massive, I mean this is this is actually 383 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 1: you asked me what you know what really sort of 384 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: is bugging me politically at the moment and maybe even 385 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: keeping me up at night a little bit. It is 386 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: the incoming constitutional vandalism that we were about to see 387 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: because the Labor Party, which is which is our left 388 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: wing party in the United Kingdom looks like it's going 389 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: to take the reins of government next time around after 390 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: there is an election, and they have promised to abolish 391 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: the House of Laws that is our upper chamber. They 392 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: will replace it with an elected Senate. And my position 393 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 1: on this is that what is the point of bicamerality, right, 394 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: two chambers in your Congress, parliament, whatever, if they're both 395 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: chosen in the same way. I think you guys had 396 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: a constitutional amendment that reflected from number seventeen or something 397 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: like that that changed the nature of what your set, 398 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: how your Senate was chosen, and it basically ruined the Senate. 399 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: The Senate was never supposed to be just another democratic 400 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: body full of politicians, and they're going to do that 401 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: to our House of Lords. So here's the thing. So 402 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: we're going to have two democratic chambers in our parliament. 403 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: The executive branch in the United Kingdom is also chosen 404 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: from the Parliament, and then you're basically saying there shouldn't 405 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: be a monarchy either. So at that point you've got 406 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: a tyranny of the majority system. It doesn't work. There 407 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: has to be something more than just politicians who push 408 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: that stuff around, and it's really interesting to me because 409 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: Kars Starmer, Circus Starmer, who is the leader of the 410 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: Labor Party right now, who will become the prime minister 411 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: if the polls remain the same, went to Davos, went 412 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: to the World Economic Forum and he was asked by 413 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: a reporter, Emily Maitliss, if you had to choose between 414 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: Westminster and Davos, which would it be, And he said Davos. Well, 415 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: it's interesting, isn't it that he is the one that's 416 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: charging head first with constitutional vandalism and at the same 417 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: time he thinks the unelected other way to get things done. 418 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't hold. The argument doesn't hold. And 419 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: so I think you do need somebody who has the 420 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: long term interest in the nation at heart. So even 421 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: if they don't have real power, right like, it's a 422 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: symbolism that's supposed to be. I don't even know what 423 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: authority is still vested in the monarch, well, the very 424 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 1: It's interesting because in my book Enoch was right, I 425 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: talk about this right in nineteen forty eight, when the 426 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: Canadians effectively created their own form of nationality and said 427 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: we're not subjects anymore, we have Canadian citizenship. It changed 428 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: everything for the entire British Empire, and so we went 429 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: from subjects to citizens within the same period of time. 430 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: But but what are you citizens? Off is the question? 431 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: Because of course we have England, we have Wales, we 432 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,959 Speaker 1: have Northern Ireland, we have Scotland. Several of those make 433 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: up Great Britain. Several more of those together make up 434 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: the United Kingdom. You know, we have this kind of 435 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:33,959 Speaker 1: grand union of different countries and entities that voluntarily come together, 436 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: much like your states. Right, and they say, okay, we 437 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: are going to vest our power in the nation, but 438 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: what is the nation? Well, the nation has to be 439 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: more than the sum of its politicians, right, it can't 440 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: just be some some texts that are scribble down. Because 441 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: you know, you have a constitution. Remember we don't have 442 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: a written constitution. We have an evolving constitution, right. Our 443 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: primary law is our constitution. It's it's it gets very complicated, 444 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: but it's not dull. I assure you that I know 445 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: a lot of people get sort of think, oh, you know, 446 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: what do I know about constitutional you know, import and 447 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: all of this stuff as it relates to politics. It's everything. 448 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: If you don't understand the way your country works, then 449 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: you can't really complain about how it works. And at 450 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: the end of all of the all of the questions 451 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: that are raised about what makes Britain Britain is the crown, 452 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: because the crown is the connection between the nation and God. 453 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: That's why, as you'll see when Charles is crowned formally 454 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: that they will touch his head with anointing oil, and 455 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: that is the head of the Church of mind. Isn't 456 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: the crown? That the head of the Church of England 457 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: technically that's that's how that is what signifies, which I 458 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: think not the man that really has the power, think 459 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: Odds that has the power. I think Hitchens, Hitchens, who 460 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: is just a poor man's Raheem Kassam. Christopher Hitchins used 461 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: to say that, yes, the Church of England built on 462 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: the family values of Henry the Eighth, which I think 463 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: it's pretty funny, but anyway, it was a Hitchens line. Um. 464 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: But yes, back to back to the crown. Probably by 465 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: the way, I'm not sure that Christopher Hitchens can can 466 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: can wax moral um about anybody else's exploits. Well, he's 467 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: certainly not here anymore to defend himself, so there's that. 468 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: But but tell me this. Um uh, well, I was 469 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: actually gonna ask you something kind of silly for a second, 470 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: just to take us in a different direction. Do you 471 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: do you watch The Crown like every because I tried 472 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: to fight it as long as I can, But you know, 473 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: you have a girlfriend, I have a fiance. The ladies 474 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: love that show man. I don't know. I couldn't fight 475 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: it off anymore. I was like, all right, fine, honey, 476 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: we'll watch The Crown. And it's pretty engrossing for what 477 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: it is. Yeah. Actually my girlfriend doesn't like the Crown, 478 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: and I think because she's just like a very red 479 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: blooded American patriot and finds it all very stuffy and boring. 480 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: And and he did fight a war, elevant aren't that 481 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: long ago, so we would pretty much never have to 482 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: pay any attention to that royal family ever. Again here 483 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: that that is the thing. So for Americans, this is 484 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: why I ask you, as a brit why do you 485 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,959 Speaker 1: care as an Americans? I do not want to hear 486 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: it from people. It's bizarre the fixation they have with 487 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: the the British royal family. It makes no sense to 488 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: me at all. But for British people, I understand. Um, 489 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: so that's that's one air. So we've we've well, look, 490 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: I mean The Crown is a good show. It's not 491 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: particularly true to real life, but it's it's it's it's 492 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: very entertaining. The interest in it, however, speaks to something broader, 493 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: I think, And I know you're not going to like 494 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: what I'm about to say, but I do think Americans 495 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: kind of miss something. They miss this this institution almost. 496 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they want to be ruled from London, right, 497 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: You maybe want your own monarchy, um, but people want 498 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: something that's aspirational. And in a country where we have 499 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: the Founding Fathers being torn down all the time, and 500 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: there's there, I think there is something that, look, we 501 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: all love, like I'm there were. Of course, there's British 502 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: Republicans who want the an end to the monarchy and 503 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: so on and so forth and that and that is 504 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,479 Speaker 1: only unfortunately going to grow and grow with with Charles 505 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: at the helm Um. But everyone basically loved her Majesty 506 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: the Queen. They understood that her life was yes, she 507 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: gets to live in nice, big palaces, but they understood 508 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: that her life was really service. And I was lucky 509 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: enough to be able to go to Windsor Castle and 510 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,479 Speaker 1: pay my respects at her tomb recently. And and and 511 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: we had as a nation we could come together and celebrate. 512 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: Um that that person doing such great things. Um. I 513 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: just offhand referred to her as as in terms of popularity, 514 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: the dolly partner of the of the United Kingdom, which 515 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: Clay thought. He was like, you're you're crazy. You're gonna 516 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: get so so bashed or attorney. There was like a 517 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: big Tennessee newspaper that picked that up, or you know 518 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: that they took that line. I don't they heard it 519 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: from me, or they just went with it. But she 520 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: was she was like the dialing partner of the United Kingdom. 521 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: Everybody loved her, which I thought was pretty funny. Um. Okay, 522 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: So we had Vera Lynn during that the Second World War, 523 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,239 Speaker 1: we had Viri Lynn and Viri Lynn. People will know 524 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 1: the song We'll Meet Again and actually We'll Meet Again 525 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: was one of the last songs that was ever played 526 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: on one of the Queen's Christmas addresses. And so that 527 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,959 Speaker 1: I feel like Viri Lynn was kind of our Dolly parton. 528 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: I feel like the reason you don't have a comparison 529 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: is because of the very short term nature of both 530 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: your politics and your celebrity life. And again it's hard 531 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: to explain because I understand that constitutionally you guys are 532 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,959 Speaker 1: reversed to it, but from an institutional perspective, a lot 533 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: of a lot of Britons, like myself look at it 534 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: and go, I'm so comforted by that. So this, this turns, 535 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: this turns into the next. I think it's an easy 536 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: way to transition into something that to me is related. 537 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: And you can take this ever you want, which is 538 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: I remember I think it was actually Andrew Tade before 539 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,959 Speaker 1: he was held in prison. He has UK citizenship as 540 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: well as American citizenship. I think he said that England 541 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: is a country that no longer stands for anything and 542 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: that won't and that won't defend its values in as 543 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: effectively in terminal decline as a society. Do you agree 544 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: with that diagnosis? And I asked because as an American, 545 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people look at Canada, look 546 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: at the UK, look at Australia. I was living in 547 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: and now I've never been there, and I don't profess 548 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: to be an Australia expert. I thought it was kind 549 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: of like the United Kingdom. With nicer people in kangaroos. 550 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: But turns out they're a bunch of socialists who will 551 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: do whatever they're told and embrace authoritarianism, embrace the most 552 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: insane COVID lunacy. And that really worries me in a 553 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: society that it can't actually be nimble and adapt to 554 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: reality as it happens, that it could be overtaken by 555 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: a mass hysteria. Same thing in Canada under Trudeau. Is 556 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: the UK a country, and so we think that those 557 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: places are just further ahead of America. You know, they're 558 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: warning signs of what we will turn into if we 559 00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: don't stand for certain values freedom, liberty, individuality. Is the 560 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: UK in terminal decline. What do you make of then, surfdom? 561 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: I mean, what you're talking about is serfdom, right, and 562 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: it's it's it's the worst part of it is almost 563 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: the choice to be a serf, to be a slave 564 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: to your government, your bureaucrats, your politicians, and forget that 565 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: they are the ones who are either supposed to represent 566 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: your interests or as you guys once did you know, 567 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: they'll get tarred and feathered and tossed overboard. And serfdom 568 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: is a very difficult thing in a world that is 569 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: increasingly relativistic morally and is increasingly secularized, because because government 570 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: has become the religion. You know, in the United Kingdom, 571 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: the National Health Service, which is failing, I mean failing. 572 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: They're having to set up temporary morgues and mortuaries across 573 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: the country simply because the National Health Service is killing people. 574 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: It is killing people by not showing up in time 575 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: when ambulances are called. It is killing people because it 576 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: is spending got gantu in sums of money. You know, 577 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: the National Health Services budget has doubled in the last 578 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: I think it's ten, ten to fifteen years. The health 579 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: has doubled. Do you think we have seen commensurate rises 580 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: in care as a result of that budget doubling. No, 581 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: we haven't. We've actually seen a worsening in care over 582 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: the last decade in the United Kingdom and the National 583 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: Health Service, you know, they call it the envy of 584 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: the world. I have never met anybody anywhere in the 585 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: world who envies our healthcare system. I've never met anybody 586 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: anywhere in the world who looks at my teeth and goes, well, 587 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: that's wonderful. I want to use the dentists that you're using. 588 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: And and you know, we've we've placed God with government 589 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: in our societies. We've replaced you know this, this this 590 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: appeal to something greater than us and greater than the little, 591 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: particular particularisms of the lives, the small little lives we 592 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: lead with bureaucracy and the boring nature of the things 593 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: that they tell us are moral, which are oftentimes while 594 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: immoral things. Right, I think of transgender you know, library 595 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: drag queen our or whatever they're calling it nowadays, is 596 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: one of the great examples of what is being deified. 597 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: So it's like a bathtub, right where where we know 598 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: that we have to keep that tub full of warm water, 599 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: that that that that cleanses us, that nourishes us, that 600 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: protects us, that keeps us warm. Meanwhile our Davos elite 601 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: are constantly pulling the plug and we're just constantly trying 602 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: to trying to plug that hole with with all manner 603 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: of things. Brexit as a good example of that, right 604 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: that that was the United Kingdoms electorate slamming their hand 605 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: on the drain and saying, well, well, well, well we 606 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: need our own, you know, system of government to keep 607 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: us independent, to keep us sovereign, to keep us safe, 608 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: and to hold our belief in something. But the problem 609 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: with that is sorry, I know, I'm just because you're 610 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: very close to it and know Nigel, and so I 611 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: want to put a pin in that. But keep going. 612 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: But just in conclusion of all of that point, you know, 613 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: you ask about terminal decline, it's not that. It's not 614 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: that we the people of any of these western countries 615 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: necessarily believe in the terminal decline of our nations. Yes, 616 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: of course, some silly Marxists you know, have bought into it, 617 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: but they we can overcome those people. We are stronger 618 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: than them in very many ways. But but it's that 619 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: every time we get anywhere close to not just stopping that, 620 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: but actually turning the taps on and refilling the bathtub, 621 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: it's the it's the you know, we call them the 622 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: Davos Elite. Today, it's it's Davos one day, it's Brussels another, 623 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,479 Speaker 1: it's Capitol Hill another. All of those people and all 624 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: of those institutions are still just tugging away at that 625 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: at that drain. Now, you did have a decline particular, right, right, 626 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: you did have a particular view of Brexit. Somebody who 627 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: you were on Nigel Farage's staff, you know Nigel very well, 628 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: you know the Brexiteers personally, uh and and and in 629 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: a close way, we were told, I mean, if you 630 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: were somebody who was reading you know, the Economist or 631 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: the editorial page of the New York Times, that Brexit 632 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: was going to lead to calamity. Right, I'm not sure 633 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: if it was going to be that all the Brits 634 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: would be starving, but you know, bad things were going 635 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: to happen from it, and then it was madness. What 636 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: has been the report card since Brexit? I mean, what 637 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: has gone on? How would you view it now that 638 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: some years have passed since that event that seemed to 639 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 1: shock the international elites and create this moment of maybe 640 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: we're not all going to be taking orders from bureaucrats 641 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: in Brussels. Actually, now this is where it gets really 642 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: interesting because I talked earlier about how Kirs Stamol wants 643 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: to replace the House of Lords with a Senate. Well, 644 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: why does he really want to do that? Because what 645 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: he intends to do is pass primary legislation in the 646 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: House of Commons to rejoin the European Union, and he 647 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 1: knows it will be easier to pass in an elected 648 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: Senate to rejoin the European Union than it would pass 649 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: through the House of Lords in our current constitutional format. 650 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 1: So right now in the British press on an almost 651 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: daily basis, and I go through it on an almost 652 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: daily base. Well now I go through it on a 653 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: daily basis. You see, you know, when are we going 654 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: to rejoin the EU? Should Britain rejoin the EU? Brexit 655 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: is least you, less popular than ever before. And as 656 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: the older generation that predominantly voted for Brexit is dying 657 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: out unfortunately, and as the Conservative part Conservative Party continues 658 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: to govern as a center left party, Brexit is being 659 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: watered down, it is being neutralized. There are all sorts 660 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: of things that are blamed nowadays on Brexit that that 661 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: have nothing to do with Brexit. But the British public 662 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: sort of looks at it, and they're told it by 663 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: the Sun newspaper and the Times newspaper and the Murdoch 664 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: Press and and Sky News and the BBC, and they're 665 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: told it and they go, oh, yeah, I guess it 666 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: must have been Brexit. What a bad idea? So I think, unfortunately, 667 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: we're looking at a campaign now to return to the 668 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: European Union within the next five years, and and they 669 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: may well win that campaign. Is Britain salvageable as a 670 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: great country with a great tradition and a great people, Well, 671 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: you've described almost no longer exist. There is no one, 672 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, one British people anymore. In a lot of ways. 673 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: I am evidence of that. You know, my parents were well, 674 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: my father was born in Tanzania, my mother was born 675 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: in India. My lineage goes back to India. And a 676 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: lot of people who are of my ilk chose not 677 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: to assimilate, and they chose not to you know, have 678 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: traditional British values, and they chose not to learn the 679 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: language as as as fluently as I did, and they 680 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: chose to kind of not have I wouldn't say like 681 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: a dual loyalty, but certainly like a dualism right inside 682 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: themselves that that, you know. And I don't like this. 683 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: I don't like I just I meant the American people, 684 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, the American people as one people exist. It's 685 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 1: not about any racial, ethnic or religious identity. It's about 686 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: your identity as an American. Bama constitution and our culture 687 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: are shared history, so right so is the UK salvageable 688 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: in as that or is it breaking apart? I'm leading 689 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: up to Yeah, go ahead, go ahead. Sorry, I just 690 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: I like to flesh those things out, you know. And 691 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: you the reason I say that, it's because you do 692 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: it too, right African American, Asian American, and everybody gets 693 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 1: sort of segmented into these little identity groups, and we've 694 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 1: done that as well. Unless there is a minister, a 695 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: real sort of philosopher king that comes along and reminds 696 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: the country that it is one country in a very 697 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: Disraelian sense, right, one nation. Conservatism was was the longest 698 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: running strain of conservative thought in the United Kingdom. Ever, 699 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: unless somebody comes along and reminds the general public of 700 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: that and indeed forces them to believe in it, right 701 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: like I don't mean, I don't mean through coercion, I 702 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 1: mean through argument, you know, gets them to believe in 703 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: that goal, then then no, there isn't a United Kingdom anymore, 704 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: and nor should we pretend that they will be. You 705 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: cannot have a cohesive nation if everybody is taught that 706 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: they are part of a different group than their next 707 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 1: door neighbors. Is it more left wing as a country 708 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: now in its totality than the US. I mean, you 709 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: have a means of comparison here. You know, one thing 710 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: that I think people have recognized about Canada is if 711 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: you take the most you know, beta male low t 712 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: Marxist leadership in America, that's actually much more common and 713 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,760 Speaker 1: much more powerful in the context of Canada and Trudeau 714 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: and Trudeauism. Right, So is that also true about the UK? 715 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: Right now? Are they even? Are they more awoke? I 716 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: don't even know how much that term is used over 717 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: there than we are here. Oh it's used. It's used 718 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 1: way too much over there, and it's it's used in 719 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: a really cringe way. So so they don't say, like 720 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: somebody goes, you know, woke in the UK, woke is 721 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: the is the adjective that describes the movement. So there'll 722 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,439 Speaker 1: be like editorials in the Telegraph that says we must 723 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: end woke, you know, as if that's like antifa um 724 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: and it gets up, it gets on my nerves. Just 725 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: from a from a from a linguistic perspective, to answer 726 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: your question, I think governmentally, bureaucratically, we are far more 727 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: of a left wing country and you should look to 728 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: us as a warning of how not to run your country. Culturally. 729 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: You know, I've been here for six years now. Culturally, 730 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 1: I think America is more left wing. People in the 731 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 1: United Kingdom are more you know, more inclined to say, okay, well, 732 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: let's let's take a beat on that and think about that, 733 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 1: and think about its implications to our culture, to our neighbors, 734 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 1: to our society. The America seems every time somebody comes 735 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,280 Speaker 1: up with a you know, a progressive new thing, seems 736 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: to just slam its foot on the accelerator and go, yeah, 737 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: that's the new thing, and that's what we're going for now, 738 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: whether it's BLM or what have you, or the transgender stuff. 739 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: I mean, America, we have to we have to accept this. 740 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: America is the single largest exporter of cultural Marxism in 741 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: the world today, and that is a deeply, deeply shocking thing. 742 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,439 Speaker 1: And of course, when you guys sneeze, we all catch 743 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: a cold. That stuff is now in Britain, it is 744 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: now in Australia, it is now in Canada, it is 745 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: all across Europe. You know. The French actually have the 746 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: lowest tolerance for this stuff of almost any European nation, 747 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: I mean, apart from the deeply social conservative nations like 748 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: Poland and Hungary. The French look at American political culture 749 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: as they do most as they do look at most 750 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: things American right going to say a political culture, but yeah, 751 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 1: they look at a lot of it. But but but on 752 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,959 Speaker 1: this one they're right. You know, on this thing, they're 753 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: not just being French about it. They're actually being smart 754 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 1: about it. And so you've got to know that when 755 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 1: the French are right about something in critique of you, 756 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: you've really got a problem. May we be in, sir, 757 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: We'll come back with Raheem. Here on a second, I 758 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 1: want to ask you what's the craziest thing that's happening 759 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: in America today? So you can think about that one, Raheem. Well, 760 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: I remind everybody, by the way, do you sleep on 761 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: my pillow? This should be you do? 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The craziest thing happening in America in 786 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: America today is that is that the right has not 787 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: managed cultural hegemony yet, like that is like, Yeah, I 788 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: find that utterly, utterly baffling. To be honest with you, Um, 789 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,919 Speaker 1: that there is so much cultural rot and disease coming 790 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,760 Speaker 1: out of Hollywood and New York, as you know, UM, 791 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: but that we haven't, that we haven't really truly cut 792 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: through that yet, really embarrasses me. Um. It speaks to 793 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: our lack of creative at it speaks to our lack 794 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: of Honestly, for people who regard themselves as I do, 795 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 1: and I don't, I don't profess to speak for you 796 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: in this regard, but I regard myself as a populist. 797 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: For people who regard themselves as populists, we're not very 798 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: good at being popular in the things that we promote culturally. 799 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 1: So that's why this year, I'm pleased to say, and 800 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 1: I think you may be getting the exclusive here on 801 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 1: this right now, that the National Pulse is going to 802 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 1: be moving into that territory. We are going to be 803 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: moving into print magazine territory. We are going to be 804 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: moving into documentary territory. We are we are just widening 805 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: the scope of the things that we present to as 806 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: many people as possible. Because because I was reading this 807 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: Michael Anton essay actually, I think it was in I 808 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: Am seventeen seventy six magazine, which is a great magazine 809 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 1: about about Tom Wolfe and about the the the vacuums 810 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: that he saw around him culturally, and how he he 811 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: just chose to fill them, right, He just told the 812 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 1: stories that he saw before him him that he knew 813 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 1: weren't being told anywhere else. On fire of the vanities, 814 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: so on and so forth. And we've got we've got 815 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 1: real bonfires of the vanities going on in Washington, DC 816 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: right now. We've got we've got neighborhoods, predominantly black neighborhoods, 817 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: by the way, which are being totally left to rack 818 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: and ruin by a black mayor of Washington, d C. 819 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: But nobody's telling those stories for the sake of history. 820 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: Nobody's telling them for the sake of the next generation 821 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 1: learning from the mistakes. And so that is the thing 822 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: that really really baffles me constantly, how we are not 823 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: better at this yet. So, for example, because I think 824 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 1: this comes up a lot on the right in the 825 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: context of how is it that we thought the outcome 826 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 1: here would be any different when we've been playing for 827 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 1: this make believe neutral space and a lot of institutions 828 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,760 Speaker 1: for a long time, and for example, even in classrooms, 829 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: they'll say, oh, well, there you're pushing your right wing 830 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,360 Speaker 1: conservative values. Someone's values are going to be in the classroom. 831 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: I think the right has at least woken up to 832 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: that reality because of you know, transgender drag, Queen Story Hour, 833 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: and all these things that have become a CRT which 834 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 1: is explicitly in many context anti white, explicitly racist in 835 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,320 Speaker 1: the way that it's presented in classrooms. People have realized 836 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: that there's not this oh, we're just gonna have neutral space, 837 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: neutral space. When you have a left wing that says 838 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: that you know, algebra and higher math class being taught 839 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 1: as racist, you're going to you have to address the 840 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: battle as it is and not as you wish it were. 841 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,840 Speaker 1: So there are some places colleges, universities, for example Rheim, 842 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 1: that the the left will not allow there to be 843 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 1: any who do not think like them. But given the 844 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: creative areas right, So you know, if you're in the 845 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,919 Speaker 1: political science department at a lot of different universities, you're 846 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 1: never going to get hired as an associate professor. You're 847 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 1: never going to get a ten year for sure. If 848 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: you're a conservative, So they operate it like a country 849 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 1: club that won't allow in the you know, the undesirables, 850 00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 1: the conservatives. In the creative side, though, why don't we have? 851 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,320 Speaker 1: You brenchtioned Tom Wolf? By the way, Bonfire the Vanity 852 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: is one of my favorite novels of all time. Took 853 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: place in the Upper East Side where I grew up, 854 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 1: and I read Tom Wolf when I was in the 855 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 1: eighth grade. I've read that book in the eighth grade. 856 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: Why don't we produce great novels? Why don't we have 857 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: It's amazing? People will say that show is conservative, or 858 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,359 Speaker 1: people will say the Top Gun Maverick is conservative. I'd 859 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 1: say it's not conservative. It's just a movie the way 860 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: movies used to be entertaining, good guys, bad guys, and 861 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,839 Speaker 1: not a lot of radical political theory thrown in there. 862 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: Why can't we Why aren't we capable of teams of 863 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 1: doing more of that? Are we capable of doing more 864 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 1: of that? Yeah? And it's like every single time that 865 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 1: a left wing celebrity or a journalist comes out on 866 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 1: our side just a little bit, we all go nuts 867 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: and hand them the football and say, right, you're you're 868 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Now, whether it's whether it's Barry Wise or 869 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 1: Ricky Gervais or your lawn musk or whatever. You know, 870 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 1: we leave the people who have been fighting on our side, 871 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 1: and we hand the ball of the control of the 872 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 1: game over to somebody very recently on our side. And 873 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 1: then and then when they when they turn and asshole, 874 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 1: when they you know, express that they weren't quite signed 875 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 1: up for the entire thing, then we go, oh my goodness. 876 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 1: Some of us were warning about about the Kanye situation 877 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:19,399 Speaker 1: before Kanye went totally you know, whacko, right, and and 878 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,800 Speaker 1: and here's look, here's a message to people who, because 879 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 1: it's Jermaine to your question, is not you and I 880 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 1: I mean we we do this on a daily basis, right, 881 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 1: We are literally creating content every single day that millions 882 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,399 Speaker 1: of people see. But but there's there's a lot more 883 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: to the conservative cultural movement than the podcast as, the 884 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:44,320 Speaker 1: talking heads, the political strategists, all of that. It actually 885 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,320 Speaker 1: really behooves the ordinary American to step into this space 886 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,879 Speaker 1: because only you, who is not living in DC, who 887 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 1: is not living in New York, who is not living 888 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,919 Speaker 1: in Miami, who is not living in in in these 889 00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 1: big cities can talk about the experiences that you're having 890 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 1: in your states, in your counties, in your towns, in 891 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,479 Speaker 1: your villages, in your you know, I don't care whether 892 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 1: you live in a in a relatively new suburban district, 893 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 1: whether you live in a you know, in the desert. 894 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 1: If you're not putting pen to paper and memorializing the 895 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 1: experiences that you're having, then why do you suppose that 896 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: anybody will do that for you? Right? And here's the thing. 897 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 1: A lot of those people were not great writers, they 898 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 1: were not great thinkers. What they were able to do 899 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,959 Speaker 1: is observe the world around them and just write enough 900 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 1: down so that somebody somewhere could pick over it at 901 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: some point in the future and go, ah, this is 902 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,880 Speaker 1: what was going on in these areas. It wasn't all Biden, 903 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 1: and it wasn't all LGBT, and it wasn't all this. 904 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 1: We need historians to be able to see that stuff. 905 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,320 Speaker 1: And it is completely completely on the shoulders of ordinary 906 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 1: Americans to make sure that stuff stays in the historical record. 907 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 1: The second part of this is um you talked about 908 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: in somebody's values is going to be in the classroom, 909 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 1: right and that and that's so called that fake neutral space. Well, 910 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,360 Speaker 1: that fake neutral space comes from comes from secularism, it 911 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 1: comes from science, and it comes from the expert class. 912 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: The expert class that we all know were the people 913 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,840 Speaker 1: behind COVID, were the people saying that there'll be a 914 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,800 Speaker 1: third World War if, if you know, Britain leaves the 915 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 1: European Union. They were all saying that Donald Trump would 916 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 1: would you know, accidentally press the nuclear button instead of 917 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 1: the diet coke Buttonum, these are the people who need 918 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 1: challenging and we should. You know, the you know the 919 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 1: Chad meme where it's just you know, the guy and 920 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 1: he just says, you know, yes, that's it. Yes. Well, 921 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,359 Speaker 1: when the left accuses us of oh, well you just 922 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 1: want your philosophy in the classrooms, Yes, oh you just 923 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: want you know, anti abortion measures, Yes, you just don't 924 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 1: want me you know, a man dressed up in a 925 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 1: skirt going into the girl's locker room. Yes, you know. 926 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: Those are the answers. It's you don't have to equivocate 927 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 1: about those things. And we spend too much time equivocating. 928 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 1: We want to be liked too much. Forget about it. 929 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 1: We're not going to be liked by the other side. 930 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna be liked by your own side. I think 931 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 1: personally that I am going to use twenty twenty three 932 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 1: to write more than I've ever written before because there 933 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 1: are so many things going on out there. I am 934 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 1: going to do a tour of the United States and 935 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 1: document in documentary format what is going on out there 936 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 1: in the real United States, because very few people are 937 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 1: telling the stories of ordinary Americans, and I think these 938 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 1: are the times especially that those stories need to be told. 939 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 1: And and you know, history is not written by the victors. 940 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 1: History is written by those who bother to write it. 941 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: So let's write it. Rahem Kasalm. Everybody check out the 942 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,880 Speaker 1: Raheem Kassam podcast and also go to the National Pulse 943 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 1: and keep an eye out for all these projects that 944 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,399 Speaker 1: he's talking. Raheem, you're promising some cool stuff that people 945 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 1: are going to be looking for it. So thank you, 946 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 1: my friend, for coming and hanging out. And we'll have 947 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,319 Speaker 1: to do like a podcast after dark session at some 948 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,360 Speaker 1: point with some booze, some lifestyle tips. What's the one 949 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 1: what is the one thing Raheem that the American that 950 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: American men listening to this, if you could get them 951 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 1: to either do more of or less of one thing, 952 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 1: what would it be. Well, you know, every year is 953 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 1: dry January for me, and it's it's a real it's 954 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 1: it's a hardship for thirty one days and I'm going 955 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 1: through that. It's the tail end of it right now. 956 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 1: I'm going through it. But you know, for me, I've 957 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 1: undertaken a lot of different things in the last couple 958 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,320 Speaker 1: of years. I was, I was about forty pounds heavier, 959 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 1: um not, but twenty four months ago, I've I've lost 960 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 1: all that way. I've changed a lot of the things 961 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 1: in my life. Um. Honestly, the things that that's made 962 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 1: the world of difference to me from a from a 963 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 1: physical perspective is deadlifting, running and the stair master. Quite 964 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 1: frankly that it sort of shed all of the weight 965 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 1: for me. And the other part of it for me 966 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,439 Speaker 1: is um, you know, I've very much switched. I used 967 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: to be a seven eight nine points of beer and 968 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,319 Speaker 1: night kind of guy. You know, no dinner, It was 969 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 1: just beer for me, and I very much switched that 970 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 1: out from martinis a little bit more sophisticated, a little 971 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 1: you can you can drink fewer of them and still 972 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 1: you know, have that little buzz I actually think they 973 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 1: are far better a measure of a man than a 974 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 1: than a than a cores light as well. And then 975 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 1: the other thing is ignore the advice from the nutrition 976 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 1: experts who are trying to get you to eat crickets 977 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,799 Speaker 1: and all of that nonsense. The best breakfast you can 978 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,319 Speaker 1: have is steaking eggs, and frankly, the best every meal 979 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 1: you can have your steak and eggs. So get on 980 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 1: that trade. I actually totally agree. So there you go, everybody. 981 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 1: Raheem my friend, thanks for being with us, thanks for 982 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 1: giving us your time, and we'll have you back soon. 983 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 1: Just thank you. Puck