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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome back to another episode of the Betting

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Speaker 1: Pros NFL podcast. I'm your host Dan Harris. With me,

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Speaker 1: of course, is Matt Perrault. Find us on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: Dan Harris Hadi and at Sports Talk Matt Matt Week seventeen.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, for starters, I look like I just

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Speaker 2: kind of woke up because I just did. So this

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Speaker 2: is an early morning tape session here on the West

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Speaker 2: Coast for me, So I do apologize. If you're like

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Speaker 2: Matt Man, what happened to you? I'm on vacation, all right,

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Speaker 2: I'm on vacation. Actually that's what happened to me. I'm

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Speaker 2: a vacation. But you know, look last week, Week seventeen,

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Speaker 2: Week sixteen into seventeen, it's hard. This is a really

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Speaker 2: tough time. I know we went two and three, but

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm proud of our first run. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: know we came in the top two hundred, into the

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Speaker 2: top two hundred of the DraftKings contest, not in the money,

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Speaker 2: but I think I learned a lot about the DraftKings

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Speaker 2: system for next year because it is a different system

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Speaker 2: than than others. Given that two bye week situation, did

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Speaker 2: you have to take ye? Were you happy with where

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Speaker 2: we took our by weeks? Would you rather have taken

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Speaker 2: them earlier? No?

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Speaker 1: I think that they were good. I don't you know.

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Speaker 1: I The one thing I think I would change is

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Speaker 1: that I think we went in with a set mindset

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Speaker 1: of what we were going to do with the bye weeks.

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Speaker 1: This week. This year in particular, it was so tough

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Speaker 1: because there were certain weeks that I think provided more

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Speaker 1: value than others, which we didn't know about because of

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Speaker 1: COVID concludits right where there'd be a line, they have

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Speaker 1: to set. These lines, they get set on Wednesday, and

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Speaker 1: then you might have you know, half the teams out

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Speaker 1: they can find out on Saturday. So I was very

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Speaker 1: happy with our first year in the contest. Again, you

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Speaker 1: mentioned top two hundred, one hundred and seventy first out

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Speaker 1: of about seven hundred teams.

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Speaker 2: So really not eight hundred. It was like seven to sixty, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it might be eight a hundred number was right.

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Speaker 1: The number was a little different, so it might be

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Speaker 1: eight hundred, right, So that's top. You know, twenty five

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Speaker 1: percent went thirty eight and thirty two fifty four point

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Speaker 1: three percent, which is good percent of course. So we

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Speaker 1: were four picks out of the money, so we make

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Speaker 1: four different picks, and I feel like, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was. I was very happy with our first showing.

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Speaker 1: We we you know, didn't have a great final week,

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Speaker 1: as you mentioned, we lost on the Rams. You know,

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Speaker 1: even though the final the final week was a little

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Speaker 1: different too, because we were thinking a little bit strategically,

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Speaker 1: Like we left in the Browns that we liked originally,

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Speaker 1: even when all the receivers were out, which we realized

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Speaker 1: figured probably most people wouldn't be on given the line

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Speaker 1: and everything like that, but it was worth taking a

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Speaker 1: shot on them that obviously didn't work out. Your Rams,

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff Jared goffed and you know, broke his thumb,

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Speaker 1: so you had that. The Titans, we were just we

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Speaker 1: just missed on the Titans, like that was that was

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Speaker 1: a pick I know you liked. We kind of missed

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Speaker 1: on it.

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Speaker 2: Just I miss on the Rams. I missed on the Titans.

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Speaker 2: I mean I missed my two favorite picks of the

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Speaker 2: week that I liked a lot, and some of the

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Speaker 2: crazier ones you know that that were later in the week,

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Speaker 2: you know, the people that was doing the other contests, with.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is this is year four for me

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Speaker 2: doing contests, and you know, every year I learned something new.

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Speaker 2: It's incredibly difficult. Next year, the DraftKings contest will have

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Speaker 2: probably four times as many people as they're in it

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Speaker 2: right now. We will probably have three thousand people in it.

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Speaker 2: Four thousand people that are in it next year. And

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Speaker 2: you know, the rules every contest, they'll tweak them and

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Speaker 2: they'll turn them around. But you know, I think one

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Speaker 2: of the more challenging things this year was the idea

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Speaker 2: going to be in the game, and so this was

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Speaker 2: as challenging. It's hard anyway people think, oh, static lines,

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Speaker 2: it's easy. No, it's really hard, But not just that.

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Speaker 2: It's really hard when you don't know for sure whether

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Speaker 2: players are going to be in or out, and then

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Speaker 2: or is it nothing? And trying to balance that is

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Speaker 2: pretty hard. But I do like the fact that DraftKings

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Speaker 2: has that late change addition. But one thing I think

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Speaker 2: what you and I did, and what I did more

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Speaker 2: than anything, is that I talked us off way too

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Speaker 2: because I think I think I talked us off of

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Speaker 1: I think what we should do, we should stick with

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Speaker 1: it a little more, stick with our initial thoughts for

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Speaker 1: sure if we can. I also think, like I don't know,

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Speaker 1: maybe next year something that we do it. We should

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Speaker 1: maybe we should each have like one one like guaranteed

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. Do we hold on to

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Speaker 2: and that's hours yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And I also think we did this once with

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Speaker 1: the Rams versus the Patriots, which again that was that

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Speaker 1: was one that you pushed and you were like, no,

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Speaker 1: this is my favorite bet of the week, and I

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Speaker 1: did like it, I think, even though it was a

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Speaker 1: parathosm with the five and a half, but that was

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Speaker 1: a Thursday game. And the one thing that separates the

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Speaker 1: DraftKings contest from these other contests is that again, you

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Speaker 1: can make the Thursday pick but not lock in your

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Speaker 1: other picks. You can you can mess around with all

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Speaker 1: the picks. They don't lock until Sunday mornings, so you

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Speaker 1: And your other kinda is in the West Gate in

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Speaker 1: the circa. You if you pick a Thursday game, you

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Speaker 1: lock in all your picks at that point, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I went three and oh on Saturday in Week sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Oh really yeah?

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Speaker 2: Three? I got all three games, right, nobody, but nobody

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Speaker 2: I was like, here's what like on Saturday. And I

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Speaker 2: I can't do it. I can't can't play Saturday. We

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Speaker 2: just let's just stick to Sunday. I was like, but

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Speaker 2: I like the forty nine ers. They're like, you like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, are you still alive in any of them at all?

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Speaker 2: West Skates? I am still alive. So I am. I

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Speaker 2: cannot win the Westgate reboot, but I can come in

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Speaker 2: where the standings are right now. I mean, look, if

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Speaker 2: I think we'll probably be in the money. But one

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Speaker 2: of my friends is tied for thirtieth in the circa

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Speaker 2: right now. Wow, and they're they're currently in Maui on vacation,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, you better not get vacation, brain, because

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Speaker 2: watching closely Sausage King of Omaha if you're curious to

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Speaker 1: All right, So no more contest picks here for us,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna you know, essentially contest it, but we're gonna

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Speaker 1: use the consensus lines of our betting pros dot com.

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Speaker 1: Again that takes the aggregate lines that are available and

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I can tell I've got the Westgate numbers,

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so let's get started then, Matt as usual,

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Speaker 1: why don't you kick us off with your number one

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Speaker 2: Oh man, this is this week's stinks man, because you

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Speaker 2: just don't really know what each team is going to do.

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Speaker 2: Like there, you know we know that certain teams like

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Speaker 2: the Bills, the Steelers, we already know that they're not

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Speaker 1: Do we know that? Hold on, do we know that

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Speaker 2: Pretty much? Yeah, I mean this morning saw McDermott, like,

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Speaker 1: Somebody made their decisions.

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Speaker 2: Basically, Yeah, Matt Barkley is probably gonna play quite a bit.

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Speaker 2: I think I think you might see the Bills play.

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe they start the game with their starters

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Speaker 1: I think that's what they did last year. The one

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Speaker 1: they care. Like, for example, if the Bills win and

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Speaker 1: the Steelers lose, then the Bills are going to get

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Speaker 1: the second seed. Correct, I don't know how much that

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Speaker 1: I guess you would anyway. I guess it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: We don't really care. So we're going to completely rest.

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Speaker 1: But there is something on the line, at least for

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Speaker 1: the Bills. But go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's difficult because I think if they fine,

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Speaker 2: teams that have to win have to play. So one

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Speaker 2: thing that I've been looking at, I'm looking at the

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Speaker 2: early games for the game I'm gonna bet and the

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Speaker 2: games I'm gonna pick, because I don't like that later

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Speaker 2: in the day, if you already know your fate, then

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Speaker 2: it gets I don't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't they set it up so that you don't.

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Speaker 1: Didn't they set it up so that any game that

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Speaker 1: think that's what they did.

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Speaker 2: It gets played early, right, So I think most of

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Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, well that's probably not gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Are they alive? Still? Well? Who Cowboys? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: If the Cowboys win and Washington loses, Cowboys win, they okay, right.

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Speaker 2: Good, that's it. So, so the Cowboys know they have

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Speaker 2: No, I absolutely, of course I do. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: So for that, I mean, and it happens all over

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Speaker 1: I don't think that that's really how it works. I mean, right,

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Speaker 2: But this is the one week where I actually not

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Speaker 2: I don't believe in parlaying. Okay, I've heard the Daily Juice,

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Speaker 2: the Vikings are minus two ninety five on the money

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Speaker 1: So I mean, we might as well just talk about

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Speaker 1: But let's talk about it. Since you mentioned it, How

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Speaker 1: We have known who's going to be out. Chase Daniel.

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Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara scoring six touchdowns last week. I just think

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Speaker 2: Does Jefferson have any potentially.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think that's a team like the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: That's not what they'll do.

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Speaker 2: of Like, guys, here's your last chance to put some

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Speaker 2: and start cutting half of the guys here. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's one of my plays this week, and

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Speaker 2: Okay, my second play, and I again looking for spots

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Speaker 2: here yep. Week seventeen. I think there is something to

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Speaker 2: curious to see we talked about earlier. I'm curious to see.

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Speaker 2: I think Matt Barkley can beat the Dolphins, and I

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Speaker 2: gotta see how many receivers are playing. Okay, Colby's is hurt,

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Speaker 2: so that's out.

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Speaker 1: He's out. He's out, but he's out.

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Speaker 2: Is Digs playing?

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Speaker 2: And then I want to see what the Dolphins wind

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Speaker 1: Okay, and oh you know what they're going to do

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they may pull him if it looks like right.

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Speaker 2: be You know, Fitzpatrick may wind up playing the postseason.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what Brian Flores is doing. It

433
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Speaker 2: is so insane what he's doing with the quarterback spot.

434
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Speaker 2: How is this not Fitzpatrick's team? I'm saying it literally

435
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Speaker 2: for weeks.

436
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Speaker 1: You know what annoys me, Matt, And it's probably because

437
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Speaker 1: I have a pretty large investment in Kevin Stefanskiez, coach

438
00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,840
Speaker 1: of the Air, which may have died last week given

439
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Speaker 1: the Jets game. But the fact that people are giving

440
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Speaker 1: kudos to Flores for the way he's willing to pull

441
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Speaker 1: Tua and go to Fitzpatrick, like that's a positive. You

442
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Speaker 1: have to pull Tua because Tua does not play well

443
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,880
Speaker 1: and Ryan Fitzpatrick is your better option. So the fact

444
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Speaker 1: that he's playing Tua to begin with, and I know

445
00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,800
Speaker 1: you harped on this when it first happened to me,

446
00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,160
Speaker 1: is mind boggling, because I think the team would be,

447
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,160
Speaker 1: you know, much better on offense if you just left

448
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Speaker 1: fitz in there.

449
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Speaker 2: I again, I says on Twitter, people got really mad

450
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Speaker 2: at me. I'll say it here. I believe that ownership

451
00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 2: has told Brian Flores what to do. I think ownership

452
00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:03,439
Speaker 2: has said, Tua tanga a Looa is our franchise face,

453
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Speaker 2: and I need Tua to play as much as possible

454
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Speaker 2: and then go all the way up to the point

455
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Speaker 2: where you're gonna lose, and then it's the break in

456
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Speaker 2: case of emergency, Okay, play Fitzpatrick. But then the second

457
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Speaker 2: you have a chance to put to a back in there.

458
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Speaker 2: You do it because this is funny that he was

459
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Speaker 2: comparing it to a relief pitcher. This is like having

460
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Speaker 2: like Randy Johnson out of the bullpen. Like you go

461
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 2: and put Randy Johnson in the starting rotation, right, You

462
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 2: don't have him in the bullpen. You use him as

463
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Speaker 2: a starter because you need starters are more valuable. Like,

464
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Speaker 2: it doesn't make any sense to me. That analogy is

465
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Speaker 2: ridiculous and it's I cannot I've tried for the life

466
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Speaker 2: of me to justify the decisions they're being made here

467
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Speaker 2: with Miami, and if I'm a Dolphin fan, all I

468
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,639
Speaker 2: can hope is that when the postseason happens, like to

469
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Speaker 2: if he struggles in the first quarter, or if they're

470
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Speaker 2: down at halftime or whatever, that Brian Flores has the

471
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Speaker 2: guts to go ahead and say we're playing Fitzpatrick because

472
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Speaker 2: you're not winning a playoff game with Tua. I'm just

473
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Speaker 2: call me a hater, but you're just you're not winning

474
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Speaker 2: a playoff game with two at the quarterbacks, right.

475
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Speaker 1: So I guess my issue is, I guess I don't

476
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Speaker 1: know how to what to do with this game because

477
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Speaker 1: I don't know who's playing. I don't know whether or

478
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Speaker 1: not the Bills are motivated to win this game. Maybe

479
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 1: it's the thirteen and three, but again, it could be

480
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Speaker 1: the second seed because if you're if you're the third seed,

481
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Speaker 1: I think you're probably getting I guess it depends on

482
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Speaker 1: what happens with the Dolphins, but you you might be

483
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Speaker 1: getting the Ravens. You know, they might be the sixth

484
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Speaker 1: seed at this point, so maybe the number two seed.

485
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Speaker 2: Does the fans start this week or next week?

486
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Speaker 1: I think the fans start next week.

487
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Speaker 2: The playoffs because if nine thousand fans are going to

488
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Speaker 2: be there for their playoff games, right, so that's huge.

489
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Speaker 2: That's huge for Bill's Mafia to be able to be

490
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Speaker 2: in that building. That's good.

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Speaker 1: I you know, I have a very soft spot for

492
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Speaker 1: Bills fans and for Bill's Mafia because I went to

493
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Speaker 1: school there. So I still have a lot of friends

494
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Speaker 1: who are really investing in this. It's just it's hard

495
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Speaker 1: for me to get a real And again, the fact

496
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Speaker 1: that the Bills are favored in this game, I don't

497
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Speaker 1: really know what to do with because I just if

498
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Speaker 1: it's Matt Barkley and there's no Stefan Diggs and t

499
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 1: Davious White, you know, doesn't play, Matt, I mean, do

500
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Speaker 1: you still like the Bills?

501
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that you still do, because I think the Dolphins.

502
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Speaker 2: I think this is a game, just speaking generally, Okay,

503
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter all that much for the Dolphins, and

504
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 2: it's gonna be cold.

505
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Speaker 1: You're so it matters for the Dolphins, Matt. Well if

506
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Speaker 1: they if they lose, they're probably not making the playoffs.

507
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Speaker 1: You know that, right, because if they lose, the Ravens

508
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 1: are gonna beat the Bengals.

509
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Speaker 2: Right. Okay, you're walking around through how they miss the playoffs.

510
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Speaker 1: Okay, Sure the Dolphins lose, Okay, they finish ten and six,

511
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Speaker 1: okay with me, yep, the Ravens are ten and five.

512
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Speaker 1: They're gonna beat the Bengals, right, eleven and five? Right,

513
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 1: the Browns are playing a Steelers team that's resting all

514
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Speaker 1: the starter.

515
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Speaker 2: Correct, Brown's gonna win that game.

516
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Speaker 1: Eleven and five. The Colts are playing the Jaguars. They're

517
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Speaker 1: gonna beat the Jaguars. They're going to finish eleven and five.

518
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 1: The Titans, right, yeah, are playing Detexans. If they win

519
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: their eleven and five, they win the Division three playoff

520
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 1: teams Seeds five, six, and seven, The wild card teams

521
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Speaker 1: are the Ravens at eleven and five, the Browns at

522
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 1: eleven and five, the Colts at eleven and five, the Dolphins.

523
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Speaker 1: If they lose are ten and six, they're out of

524
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. They have to win. Huh, they have to win.

525
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 1: So does that affect the way they have to win?

526
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Speaker 1: If they lose and any one of those teams.

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Speaker 2: Loses, they're in. They're in. Okay, They're in. I knew

528
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Speaker 2: there was something. I knew there was something like it

529
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Speaker 2: looked like that they're.

530
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Speaker 1: All playing at the same time, and all of the

531
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Speaker 1: teams that they're going at our favored now the Browns

532
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Speaker 1: because their COVID concerns are slightly less than double digits,

533
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Speaker 1: but they're favored by nine over the backups for Steelers.

534
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Speaker 1: I think the Steelers could pretty easily win that game still,

535
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Speaker 1: even when Mason Rudolph. And again, that's probably gonna be

536
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Speaker 1: one of the ones that I put out here, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the spread is going to be

538
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Speaker 1: by the time people listening right now, it's ten at

539
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 1: It's dropping though, because this morning the more COVID concerns

540
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Speaker 1: for the Browns.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, it's nine in the contest.

542
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: Right, and it's nine now for the consentuves lines, and

543
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: you can get it at ten. I like it. I

544
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Speaker 1: think I still like it at nine. Remember that as

545
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Speaker 1: bad as the Steelers were, I know we're switching jumping

546
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: around a little bit here, but as bad as Steelers were,

547
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Speaker 1: they still went eight to eight last year with Mason Rudolph.

548
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: You know at the quarterback much time. You know they

549
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: don't like the Browns that you know, there's certainly revenge factor, right, and.

550
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett's Miles Garrett's playing right.

551
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Speaker 1: Yes, Miles Garrett's candn't play, so there's that. But the

552
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: Browns need a win to get in against mostly backups.

553
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Speaker 1: And the Browns are, you know, a solid team, they're

554
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: they're well coached. If they have actual wide receivers, then

555
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 1: they could do it.

556
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Speaker 2: So so the Bills can knock out the Dolphins, I

557
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 2: like it. So that's just okay. Now I like even more. Okay,

558
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 2: if the Bills can knock out the Dolphins.

559
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Speaker 1: They cannot get it. That's why it's really But the

560
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Speaker 1: Steelers can knock out the Browns and it doesn't look

561
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Speaker 1: like they're gonna go for it. It's very this is

562
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Speaker 1: such a weird week, Matt.

563
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 2: Oh, It's impossible. It's it literally is for to fourmentiononal chess,

564
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 2: you have to be in the minds, you have to

565
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Speaker 2: be inside of the minds of the coaches as to

566
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: what they really care about. I just wonder. I mean,

567
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: there is that factor of like everyone's saying, okay, who

568
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: is the heir to the Patriots thrown? Which I don't

569
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 2: think is gone by the way, but it's it's now

570
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: okay here it's the Bill's division, and one's like, no,

571
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: it's a Dolphins division. Well, okay, Now, it's kind of

572
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: a way of flexing your muscle a little bit of

573
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 2: a buffalo and keeping your rival out of the postseason

574
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Speaker 2: if you beat them. So in this an area you

575
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Speaker 2: just laid out. If you can knock the Dolphins out,

576
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Speaker 2: I think there's some real motivation. I think Bills fans

577
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Speaker 2: would be fired up to keep the dolphinsut of the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I think it is sort of

579
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Speaker 1: This is probably not something, but the two favorites for

580
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Speaker 1: the Coach of the Year right now for the betting

581
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 1: markets from what I've seen, are now Brian Flores and

582
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Speaker 1: Sean mcdermoy. So if the Bills keep the Dolphins out

583
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: of the playoffs, that certainly makes a difference, you know,

584
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: and they could at least somewhat be thinking about that

585
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Speaker 1: in terms of flexing your muscle.

586
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I just will Can we pause on that

587
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: for one second? Yeah? How is Ron Rivera winning this award?

588
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: He was up there, but they may not win the division.

589
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 2: I don't care if they win the division or not.

590
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 2: And Ron Rivera was getting cancer treatment at halftime, I understand,

591
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: and his play and he had an Alex Smith quarterback

592
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Speaker 2: with you know, coming back up the most horrific legg

593
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Speaker 2: injury we've seen, Sinceneisman. I don't even know how is

594
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Speaker 2: this even a conversation? Brian Flores has I got a

595
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 2: great year, But I don't get how you don't vote

596
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: when you're when it's pen to paper time. How are

597
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: you not voting for Ron.

598
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Speaker 1: Rivera because they're probably going to finish six and ten?

599
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Speaker 2: Okay, you know, it's incredible. That's a great run for

600
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Speaker 2: that team.

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Speaker 1: I get it, I get it, But I mean to

602
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: be like six and ten coach of the Year. I

603
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: can't imagine what the lowest record for a Coach of

604
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Speaker 1: the Year ever is. But I get it. He's up there,

605
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Speaker 1: He's up there.

606
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Speaker 2: I hate that. I hate it in college basketball too

607
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: because it was, you know, same thing, like Belichick should

608
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 2: have won that award like fifteen times, right point, saman

609
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: should win that award every single exactly.

610
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: Like it's funny. Yeah, we talked about it because I

611
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: was in that sportsbook sort of contest about the most

612
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: likely candidates, and you almost always need at least ten wins,

613
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: and you almost always need to have a gain of

614
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: at least three wins from one year to the next

615
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: like that, that's the bottom line for it. So maybe

616
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Speaker 1: Rivera and I'd have no problem with that.

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Speaker 2: I thought, of course as well, should be right. I mean,

618
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Speaker 2: I think the.

619
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Speaker 1: Fancy is one of them. Yeah, but the loss of

620
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: the Jets really hurt. If they make the playoffs, we'll see.

621
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: But anyway, we're getting we're getting off topic here. Seventeen

622
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: whatever we can do, whatever we want. Everybody listen, doesn't matter.

623
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 1: It's gonna be amazing. Bill's one and a half to Dolphins.

624
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. We'll put that in the baby

625
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: category for sure. That that's fine to go in. But

626
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 1: what do you think about the Steelers. I think the

627
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: Steelers are going to keep this game, Cleo. I don't

628
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: think Mike Tomlin is out there ever to say I'm not.

629
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: I don't care.

630
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: Oh no, I agree with that. Yeah, I mean Fanders

631
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: down to eight and a half. I mean, yeah, there's

632
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 2: stefrom steam coming in here on Pittsburgh.

633
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: It's a lot of it is COVID though, Matt, this

634
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: morning there's more COVID problems, like before you woke up,

635
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: there's more COVID problems this morning already.

636
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 2: So people are who's out anybody anybody know?

637
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,719
Speaker 1: No, I mean I think Harrison Bryant, you know, head end,

638
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 1: but that that's not a big deal. The receivers are

639
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: still penned to come back.

640
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: But you know, it's just is this the third time

641
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 2: the Browns have closed their facility?

642
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

643
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: Third time?

644
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: Yeah?

645
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: Like, come on, guys, what's going I mean, I know

646
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,959
Speaker 2: it's COVID, it's everywhere, it's horrible, but three times, yeah, Like,

647
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: something's going on with the Browns that it's not great

648
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: in terms of the where they're they're gods, you're behaving.

649
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: But so this strikes me as a game that probably

650
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: the Browns wind up winning. Although I don't hate the

651
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: money line at the on the Steelers, but that if

652
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: you're getting more than that, even more than a touchdown, yeah,

653
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: I mean you're getting a ten, I love it. But

654
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: if you're getting more in the touchdown, I think the

655
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: Steelers are going to keep this game.

656
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the nine will be that we be

657
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: one of the consensus picks in the in the Westgate

658
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: contest because it's plus nine and this is really large

659
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: and right now is plus line Yeah it's not. Yeah,

660
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: it's ten at bet mgm uh, you know on the

661
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 2: East Coast it's still nine. And then Fan Duels got

662
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: an eight and a half. They're the market low currently

663
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: and I'm guessing that the number is gonna come down

664
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: even more. So It's like, if you like the Steelers,

665
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: you got to take them early, get take them now

666
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: to get the best number possible. But I mean, I

667
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: think the Steelers should be I mean, they'll probably be

668
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: included in in my two team teaser just because you

669
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: get over fourteen and uh yeah, backdoor cover possibilities and

670
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 2: there's just a lot of I mean guys in week seventeen,

671
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: you know, you lose the big name guy but the

672
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 2: fourth string and fifth string wide receiver on certain teams

673
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: is good enough to be a second or a third

674
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: on some other teams. So you put it on film,

675
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: you know, you show, you're showing out, you're trying to

676
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: prove yourself, you're trying to justify your job, and they'll

677
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 2: play hard. And sometimes I would prefer a third string

678
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: wide receiver over a you know, fifty percent first string guy.

679
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: And don't forget when you're playing with these uh these

680
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks and everything like that, they kind of have

681
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: chemistry with the practice good point squad guys, right, these

682
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: are the guys they know. These are the guys they

683
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: work on the routes with, so good point they usually

684
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: play a little bit better. So, yeah, it's a weird

685
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: week though, as we Matt and I have harped on

686
00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: on this, it's a very weird week.

687
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: It's times plus nine. I think it's a good pick.

688
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: I think that that's a good side to be on

689
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: in particular because I think, you know, if the Browns

690
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: are gonna brown and they and they go ten and

691
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: they lose the game outright, can go ten and six?

692
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, a ten and six Browns team where you lost

693
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: to the Jets. To miss out on the playoffs is

694
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: pretty brownsie. You know, that would be a pretty big year.

695
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, so that's probably one of them.

696
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: All Right, You got any others that you like?

697
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: I mean there's only a couple that I again, I

698
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 2: don't love the numbers like Titans Texans, Right, you mentioned

699
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: it like seven and a half, Like yuck, Like keep

700
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: me six and a half? Yes, Okay, now we're talking

701
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: seven and a half. I don't know what to do

702
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: with that, even though my inclination is they want to

703
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: bounce back after being really embarrassed. And what's really frustrating

704
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: about that entire game? I mean, have you ever seen

705
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: a team want to get away from the weather faster

706
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: than the Titans did?

707
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: Oh no, that was weird, right, Like immediately you saw that,

708
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: you're like, oh god.

709
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: They didn't even call tight. They punted. Yeah, like I

710
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: had a potential back door. I mean there were chances

711
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: to get I mean, I've just never seen it. It

712
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: was so weird to me to watch a team because

713
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: I had the over in that game was to watch

714
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: them down big with three timeouts, fourth down and like

715
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: it was like six, like they're on like forty yard

716
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: line and they punted. I was like, what are you?

717
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: Mike Vrabel ran off the field. He could not get

718
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: into a warmer area faster. He wanted nothing to do

719
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: with Green Bay. And that's really weird for a power

720
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: run football team. That. I mean that to me concerns

721
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: if the Titans are going to play the Bills or

722
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: anybody any weather potential, I will fade the Titans if

723
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: they're watching that performance that.

724
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: Was It might really though it might have just been

725
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: that they said. He was like, we can't stop green Bay.

726
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: If they want to come down and score, they're going

727
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: to be able to score. We have lost this game, Like,

728
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: let's just move on, because the Colts had already lost

729
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: the control their own destiny if they beat I mean

730
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: teasing that. This strikes me as a game where you

731
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: tease the Titans afinitely laying one and a half.

732
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: Right, like or money line or just more money line at.

733
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: Whatever you want to do, exactly like that. But that's

734
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: what this strikes me to me. It's seven and a half. Yeah,

735
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: because again the Tecans kept it close the last time

736
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: they play. That's and kudos to the Texans and JJ

737
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: Watts got that video that he's pumping everybody. You know,

738
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: he's so mad at his defense. Scares me a little

739
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: bit at that number.

740
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: Of Texans number, that guy's career, by the way, we're

741
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: gonna we're going to look back and to shake our

742
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: head and be like JJ Watt was one of the

743
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: all time great awful teams his whole career.

744
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: How do you feel about the doing you know, again,

745
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: going back to the Ravens on another big number. It's

746
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: big number. It's twelve and a half for the consensus.

747
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: But I think the Ravens are going to come out here.

748
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: I think they hate the Bengals by the way they

749
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: destroyed the Bengals when it was Joe Burrow earlier in

750
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: the year. I think they hate the Bengals. This is

751
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: their chance for a playoff. You know, if they win,

752
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: they're in. I think they're going to come out and

753
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: I think they're going to be like, oh, the Bengals.

754
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: You think the Bengals are playing well well, all of

755
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, I think they're gonna come out

756
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: and I think they're going to It's a huge number,

757
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: but I don't mind laying it.

758
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the biggest number on the board. Outside the

759
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: cults and the Jags. So I mean it's it's it's a,

760
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: it's a it's the biggest number where I guess the

761
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: culture at culture at home, right, the culture at home

762
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: against Jaggs fortunate. So yeah, so it's the biggest road,

763
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: you know, you know, laying twelve and a half on

764
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: the road is not often great to do that, but

765
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,479
Speaker 2: I do I concur I agree. I think you're going

766
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: to see the Ravens. We talked about this three with

767
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: three weeks ago when were sorry back in the Ravens. Yeah,

768
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: this is them getting into form, right, this is them

769
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 2: where this is almost like an exhibition game in some

770
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: ways where it's like we need to work on us

771
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: and if that means we score fifty, we score fifty.

772
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: Okay, we need to work on both sides of the wall.

773
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: By the way, so f.

774
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: You starters are in the game, you know, if we

775
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: if we need to punch in a late touchdown to

776
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: work on a goal line situation, like we're going to

777
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: do what we have to do to win, and that's

778
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: just it. So like, yeah, yeah, I'm with it, La.

779
00:33:59,320 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: I like that.

780
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be a game I don't

781
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: love laying huge numbers like this, especially not on the road.

782
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. But I do think that this is gonna

783
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: be a game where they are just gonna come out

784
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: and they are just going to be this is we're

785
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: gonna you don't want to play us in the playoffs,

786
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: and we're going to use this game to basically tighten

787
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: up the screws. Just Lamar Jackson. I think he by

788
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: the way, not that this matters because I want to

789
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: get into the playoffs, but I think he needs something

790
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: like eighty seven yards rushing to get to a thousand

791
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: for the season. So my guess is that you'll see

792
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: a lot of him getting out there. They're just gonna

793
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 1: I think this is just gonna be a monster performance.

794
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: Son.

795
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm okay with the big number. Anything else that you're

796
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: looking at, whatsoever.

797
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm wearing so every week on the live stream,

798
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: I wear different hats that I have for teams that

799
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 2: I look to because either they're playing a game that

800
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: I bet on heavily or playing a team that I hate.

801
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: So I'm wearing a Packer's set. You can't see mer enough.

802
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 2: I'm wearing a Packer set right now.

803
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: Yep.

804
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 2: So I'm all in green and a green T shirt

805
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: and wearing a Packer. I hate the Bears because I

806
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: think I'm ohing four this year on the Bears, and

807
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: I have a small number here, and I got all

808
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: these people telling me the Bears are going to win

809
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: this game, and I as long as they don't bench

810
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: and Rogers is playing right, Oh, they they still have

811
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: to win, right to get the one seed.

812
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: Well, they don't have to win to get the one seed.

813
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: And this is if you listen to me on the

814
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: Fantasy Bros. End of year recap sort of thing. I

815
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: didn't get this because I knew that they had beaten

816
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: the Saints in terms of a head dead match, but

817
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: because the Seahawks won. Technically, if both I believe, if

818
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: both the Saints and the Seahawks win and the Packers lose,

819
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: then the Seahawks would tech would get the number one seeds.

820
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: So technically they need the Packers still.

821
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: Need to win, and it's the Bears, yes, and.

822
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 1: They want to right, and they want to beat the Bears.

823
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: They want to beat the Bears. Rogers isn't talking about

824
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 2: how he's in love with like Soldier Field and playing

825
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: there and he likes playing in the environment. He firs

826
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 2: it with fans and what this whole idea that Matt

827
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 2: Nagy and Mitchell Trubitski are going to be back next

828
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: year for the Bears. Oh, I mean, uh uh.

829
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 1: This is it's a it's a paraltism.

830
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: That's five and a half. I would lay it up

831
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 2: to ten. I think the Packers are going to destroy

832
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: the Bears here, and it's it's not my number one

833
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: pick because it's an emotion pick.

834
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: So I like it though. I like it. I think

835
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: you're right. Yeah, I think you have it correct. I

836
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: think that the Bears are playing over their head and

837
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: they've had a really soft schedule here that people are

838
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: getting excited about. And I think that the Packers, with

839
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: the level that Aaron Rodgers is playing at at this moment,

840
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: ye are they could easily win this game by fourteen

841
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: points without thinking too much about it at this point.

842
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: And you know, it's funny, Matt, because you saw what

843
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: they did, and I think they're gonna do a similar

844
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: thing right now. Is they're gonna set they sold out

845
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: to stop Derrick Henry. Yeah, they know their rush defense

846
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: is not good, so they said, Okay, this is what

847
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna do, especially in the cold weather, we are

848
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: going to do whatever we can to stop Derrick Henry,

849
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: and we're going to rely on you know, Jay or

850
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: Alexander and our corners to just hold down as best

851
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: they can to pass defense by themselves. I think that

852
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: you're going to see a very similar strategy here, except

853
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: it's against a worse past offense. You're going to see

854
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: them say, okay, Dave Montgomery, you've been having a great run.

855
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna do whatever we can to stop you. We're

856
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: gonna let Mitchell Drubisky, you know, try to throw it

857
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: at Alan Robinson's great, but you know who else you

858
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: want to throw to Mooney or you know, Anthony Miller

859
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: or the tight ends. I think that's what you're gonna see.

860
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: So I like it, man, I like it as ed

861
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: minus five and a half. Let's see. How do you

862
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 1: feel about the Bucks laying six and a half two Falcons?

863
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: I looked at it. I mean, who's got more to

864
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 2: play for in this game?

865
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: Well, what do the Falcons have to play for?

866
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: Well? The Falcons of jobs? Right?

867
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

868
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 2: Fine? Is this Matt Ryan's last start with the Falcons?

869
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: This is it is? Is he head a Disan Francis.

870
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: I mean the rumors are him going to San fran

871
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: You know, if Garoppolo gets cut, they move Garoppolo, and

872
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: then we wind up seeing a Matt Ryan be moved,

873
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 2: and then it's and then it's Garoppolo goes to New

874
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: England and Ryan goes to San Francisco. And so is

875
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 2: this you know, he's been their franchise quarterback. Does he

876
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: want to go out one last hurrah and beat Tom

877
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 2: Brady in the Buccaneers? I mean, you know at ten

878
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 2: and five the Bucks can get what seed? What's the

879
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: best they can be at eleven to five? Fifth and

880
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: they lose, They're the seventh.

881
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: No, So I this is my understanding, and that this

882
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: is not.

883
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: Just by the way you guys listening. This year is

884
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: so freaky because of the extra game, the extra team

885
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 2: getting in only one bye week. We've never seen these

886
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: tie breakers before. It's very complicated.

887
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 1: So here's the deal. The Saints have won the division, right,

888
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: so we know that's done. So that means that the

889
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: best the Bucks can do is fifth. Right, the four

890
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: division winners are going to be the top four seeds.

891
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: The best they can do is fifth. I believe they

892
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 1: can fall to sixth if they lose and the Jared

893
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: Goff and Cooper cup Less Rams beat the Cardinals. If

894
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: that happens, the Rams would jump them and they would

895
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: go to six. Now they're not going to know because

896
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: they should be playing I believe at the same time.

897
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 2: They played early in the Rams.

898
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: Uh late, Yes, so they won't know by the time

899
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: they they won't know because the Rams. So they have

900
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: to assume that the Rams are gonna win. And again,

901
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna have Kyler Murray at less than one hundred percent.

902
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: You've still got that defense. So they can't take that

903
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 1: for granted. And is there a difference between the fifth

904
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: seed and the sixth seed in my opinion? Oh yeah,

905
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: big time. The fifth seed is going to get the

906
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: winner of the NFC East. That team, whoever it is,

907
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: is definitely going to be weaker than whoever the sixth

908
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: seed is going to play.

909
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 2: I want my prediction to be I want my right

910
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: or the Saints right. Yeah, I made a call a

911
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 2: while ago, as you laid that out, I picked the

912
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: Bucks to lose was in the first round of the

913
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 2: playoffs to the winner of the n FC East.

914
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: Really yeah, wait, you made like a specific bet.

915
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 2: No, I know, but I don't mean a bet. I

916
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: mean a prediction that I'm going to bet. I'm gonna

917
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 2: bet for the Bucks to lose that game on the

918
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: on the road, whoever they play, they're gonna lose. That.

919
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: I said. The winner of the NFC East is gonna

920
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 2: play the Bucks and they're gonna win. They're gonna win

921
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 2: the game. They're gonna beat the Buccaneers because I think

922
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 2: the Bucks are fools gold right now. To be quite asked,

923
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: in the postseason, I think that blowout victory they had

924
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 2: was the best thing. I was so happy to see

925
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 2: that blowout because it's gonna give us a great number

926
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: when they go on the road and it's gonna be

927
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: like an eight or nine. You know, Bucks are gonna

928
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: be six, seven, eight, nine, somewhere in that range whoever

929
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 2: they play. And that's beautiful for me because I think

930
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: this Tampa team's got problems and no one wants to

931
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: talk about them. Oh not here though, not here. I

932
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 2: think they beat the Facings easily.

933
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that I think with them being motivated at

934
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: this point, they've already come out and said we're playing everybody.

935
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: So it's six and a half. You know the Falcons

936
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: hang around for the most part in these games, but

937
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: I'd be willing to take.

938
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: Him at what did you say, Julio Jones playing.

939
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: I'm almost positive he's not. He's trying. He has he

940
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: hasn't practiced yet this week. He's trying to get back

941
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: out there. It'd be crazy for him to actually get

942
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: back out there. So assume he's not playing. And it's

943
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: just Ridley Engage and Hayden.

944
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: Hurst and they can't really run the football.

945
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: They can't run the football at all, and not against

946
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: the Bocks. Yeah, I mean, I think Carlton Davis maybe

947
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about Carlton Davis playing. So Ridley is

948
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: going to be able to to probably do some stuff,

949
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: and you know they they were able to move the ball,

950
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 1: you know Bucks.

951
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: I mean it's ugly, but I like it. Six and

952
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: a half. I'm a right cool with it, all right.

953
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: Any other games that you've been thinking about or you want.

954
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: Me to, Yeah, I mean, look at the think we

955
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: think we have to talk about and have to look

956
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: at it. It is Washington and the Eagles, and boy

957
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 2: Alex Smith is gonna play for Washington, right.

958
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: We think so?

959
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: Right?

960
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: We we think so all right.

961
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 2: If Alex Smith plays for Washington, I think the Washington

962
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 2: football team wins this game. If it's not, though, Man,

963
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: this is tough because you have the Dwayne Haskins thing.

964
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 2: He's now gone, and I mean I did. There's just

965
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: not anyone that I really could back for Washington if

966
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: it's not.

967
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: Al Keller Hennegy might be better than Dwayne Haskins.

968
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: Very possible.

969
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: Yes, And Kara mclaurin's gonna play.

970
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 2: It.

971
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: Worries me a little bit about McLaurin because he really

972
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: without him, you're talking about Cam Sims, you know, as

973
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: your number one wide receiver there that I mean Thomas.

974
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, not good. But here's the problem for the Eagles,

975
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: just like we saw last week. I I just I

976
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: don't think that Eagles defense is all that good.

977
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: That's terrible.

978
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 2: And and so I think there's a chance no matter

979
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: who's out there, I think there's a chance to move

980
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: the football. And you know, Gibson bane back and whatnot.

981
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 2: And then I mean not to say that that you know,

982
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: the blooms off the rose there for jam Hurts, but

983
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: I think his mobility gets limited big time up against

984
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: that defense line. Yeah, And I don't think he can

985
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: pick up the same yardage normally. I mean he needs

986
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: to run the football to be effective. I mean he's

987
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: you know, yes, his passing abilities are still lacking. He

988
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 2: still needs more seasoning, more time. He's not you know,

989
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 2: he doesn't have this great route tree and yeah, you

990
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: know so, I don't think he's got enough in the

991
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: tank there to go up against a Washington defense that's

992
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: been playing pretty well. So I would like Washington to

993
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: win this game outright in prime time they go seven

994
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: and nine. So if Washington wins, it goes seven and nine.

995
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,479
Speaker 1: What happens? I'm sorry say it again.

996
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 2: So Washington wins the game outright? Yep, they win the division? Yes,

997
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 2: and they're in correct. Yeah. I like Washington there.

998
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't. I don't hate it. I I My

999
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: only worry with it. My only worry with it is

1000
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: that this is the last game of the year for

1001
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: the Eagles. You're as much as Doug Peterson I think

1002
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: has done a pretty terrible job with Carson Wentz at least,

1003
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 1: you know, in the way they call the games everything

1004
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: like that. I think you're gonna see as many ricks

1005
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: as can be pulled. Sure in this game, but I

1006
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: agree with you that that defense is very strong. This

1007
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: is the last game, right, this is Sunday night game

1008
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: or whatever, so they that's why they did it that way,

1009
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: because no matter what else happens, Washington wins and they're in.

1010
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1011
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't hate it. I originally

1012
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: when I looked at it, I was like, I think

1013
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: the Eagles might, but yeah, I think, you know, at

1014
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: this point, I think that's probably right. I like Washington.

1015
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: All right, let's get it there, Okay, any other ones

1016
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: you want to talk about before I run through the

1017
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: remaining games.

1018
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: No, I mean, you know, I I am selfishly I

1019
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: need the Raiders to beat the back.

1020
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: I'm aware I was going to ask you about that.

1021
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,959
Speaker 1: I know you need them for your feet. Yeah, because

1022
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: I was looking and you know, putting together the five

1023
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: hundred bets that you have made on the Daily Juice

1024
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: podcast so I can get your win.

1025
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: Loss and more than I'm seven hundred now, I think whatever.

1026
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: Right, I was looking at it, I was like, oh,

1027
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 1: here's one that's still outstanding that I can't technically count yet.

1028
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: For it's the last future. We went five and one

1029
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: going into them four one or five and one on the

1030
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: futures in the NFL. So we did quite well with

1031
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: our future bets, but this is the last one that's outstanding,

1032
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 2: and it's a push currently because I got seven right,

1033
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: so I got slight plus money. And if you remember

1034
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: back way back in July, when we didn't have sports

1035
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: to bet on all that much, it was I talked

1036
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: to a bookmaker in Vegas who at that point had

1037
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: not taken a single under bet on the Raiders under seven.

1038
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 2: Like literally every single bet was on the over. So

1039
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: there is a monster liability for the books here when

1040
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 2: it comes to this game, Like they are pulling so

1041
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 2: hard for the Broncos, then they don't like refunds. But

1042
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 2: seven and a half was a number that closed a

1043
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: lot of places around Vegas. It was seven and a half.

1044
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: I got it early in the summer, so it was seven,

1045
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: but it was seven and a half for a lot

1046
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: of places. So Raiders lose this game to the Broncos,

1047
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a nice windfall for different different books

1048
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 2: around around the strip. So I mean the Raiders, gosh,

1049
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 2: I mean they they have to be able to win

1050
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 2: this game. But it's it's a mile high. It's just

1051
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: it's such a tough place to go play and have

1052
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: to win, and it does doesn't mean anything like it

1053
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 2: only means it's a football game, so you want to

1054
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: win it, but there's no playoff implications. It's this is

1055
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: this is so hard. I mean, my gut says Raiders

1056
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 2: can win it, but I don't know. I mean that's yeah.

1057
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: My My problem is I need it, so I'm a

1058
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 2: little biased.

1059
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: Right, No, I'm I'm actually the exact I don't need it,

1060
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: but I'm in the exact same situation in terms of

1061
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: how I view it. This everything to me says like

1062
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: the Raid, the Raiders are a better team than the Broncos,

1063
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: Like I don't have much doubt about that. Yeah, it

1064
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: says to me like they should be able to win

1065
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: this game. But in Mile High always scares me no

1066
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: matter what, nothing really to play for. It just makes

1067
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: me just makes me too hesitant. But awesome, I'm gonna

1068
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: be investing in the Raiders because I'm invested.

1069
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: In you in your future, so I very well might

1070
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: be in this and on this simply personally, just you know,

1071
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: as a money line. You know, if you do one

1072
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 2: of these money line parlays we made to have the

1073
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 2: Raiders be a part of it. It's a small line

1074
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: at two and a half, so it's not horrible if

1075
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: you want to just lay it and I think they're

1076
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: gonna win the game. But like, does Waller have any

1077
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: I gotta look at something. I wonder if Darren Waller

1078
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: has any incentives because I didn't.

1079
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: I didn't see it. I've been trying hard to uh

1080
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: keep track of that if I can. I didn't see

1081
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: anything there.

1082
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: But I mean he because if he's the key to

1083
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: their entire team. So like, if Waller has a reason

1084
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: to ball and go out and have a two hundred,

1085
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: I got.

1086
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: I got one ready. Yees, six six catches from the

1087
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: single season record.

1088
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: They're going to force feed that. Okay, that's happening. So

1089
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: Waller's a prop bet reception over there?

1090
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: We go, Yeah, by the way, right, let's have some

1091
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 1: fun on prop bets this way. Yeah, you probably got

1092
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: all this sort of stuff to get there. But yes,

1093
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: apparently six receptions. There's somebody on on Twitter. I'll give

1094
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: me a shout out, Anthony Amico or amiccot at A

1095
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: M I C S T A. He has been listing

1096
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: all the notework the milestones slash bonuses the players can

1097
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: reach in week seventeen.

1098
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: So what's the handle again at.

1099
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: Amic style, which is a M I. C. S T.

1100
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: A Anthony Miko or Amigo. He's a good follow on Twitter,

1101
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: but he's been keeping track.

1102
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's well, yeah, that's big. That's a Waller.

1103
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 2: You know, probably five and a half receptions probably will

1104
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: be set at and maybe he might be six and

1105
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 2: a half, knowing the books are probably gonna be aware

1106
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 2: of that, so maybe six and a half, but I

1107
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: still would bet the over there they're going to force

1108
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: feed Waller and get to get him the receptions record.

1109
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: So that's one thing I would look at. And so

1110
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: you know, if he's running down the sidelines with forty

1111
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 2: fifty yard receptions because he could, then yeah, okay, the

1112
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: Raiders very well might be in there. And you know,

1113
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: Derek Carr has a lot of pride. He's trying to

1114
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: prove himself. He's trying to say, this is my team.

1115
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 2: And you know, we're going to the fact.

1116
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 1: That he played last week and played well. Yeah, given

1117
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: you know, the the growing, you know, strain that he

1118
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,959
Speaker 1: had is pretty remarkable in and of itself.

1119
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 2: And I do think the team wants to doesn't want

1120
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 2: to end a year on back to back losses and losing.

1121
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 2: It would be they would have lost. I think there

1122
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 2: were seven and three at one point, so they go

1123
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 2: seven and nine. They have lost the last six games, right, right, So.

1124
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: I think that's right.

1125
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 2: I don't think they want to go out like that

1126
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: on that type of losing streak, and you know, being

1127
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 2: in a playoff contention to just falling flat on their

1128
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 2: face like that. So them and the Patriots are both

1129
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 2: are in the in this spot where I just wonder

1130
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: I wouldn't touch the Patriots game, but just I'm wondering

1131
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: if they've got this we can't go out like that.

1132
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: Attitude, So what do you. Let's talk about the Patriots

1133
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: real quick. So you just they're laying three to the

1134
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: Jets in New England.

1135
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: Just I could see the Patriots lose that game by twenty. Yeah,

1136
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 2: I could see this. I could see everyone's coming for this.

1137
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 2: You know that this is the lion that has a

1138
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 2: broken leg. Okay, everyone's coming for him. Everyone wants a piece,

1139
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: they all. I mean, this is the only thing that's

1140
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 2: interesting about this game that leads me to believe the

1141
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: Jets might not do that is that Adam gaze is

1142
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 2: rumored to be joining the Patriots' staff.

1143
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: Okay, but is that rumor really just based on Bill

1144
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: Belichick being like, Oh, I think Sam Darnold has gotten

1145
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: the best coaching that he possibly could have gotten. I mean,

1146
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: is that or is there actual rumors about them?

1147
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 2: There's actual rumors that he could be joining the Patriots

1148
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 2: as an offensive There's rumors that Josh McDaniels is going

1149
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: to go and take a head coaching job and that,

1150
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: and then the Patriots would hire Adam Gasee to be

1151
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator.

1152
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you're available, Matt, why don't they hire you

1153
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: as the offensive coordinator instead of Adam Gates?

1154
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 2: You know, I don't, look, I'm not a football mind.

1155
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 2: I can't tell you that if the offense is being

1156
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: run properly and it's the quarterbacks problem, or it's a

1157
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 2: receiving problem, or I don't know. Gates is a horrific leader,

1158
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 2: He's a horrific head coach. He's been that way. And

1159
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 2: I made the joke that maybe maybe the Saban rehab

1160
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 2: tour is going to come to the NFL and all

1161
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 2: these former head coaches are going to go work for

1162
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick to get the to rehab their image and

1163
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 2: then go on and do something else. I mean Steve,

1164
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 2: Steve Sarkesian for the Forbama. You know he was he's

1165
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 2: obvious an alcoholic still, but he had all problems off

1166
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 2: the field, and now he's like the hottest name in

1167
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: coaching right now to get go to the job because

1168
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 2: of what he's done with with with Mac Jones and Alabama.

1169
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: So maybe you can turn the tide if the Patriots

1170
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 2: get a quarterback, if it's Matthew Stafford who comes in,

1171
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 2: which I would be all in on. Uh, you know,

1172
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 2: you get Stafford, you get Adam Gase. I mean maybe

1173
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: you changed the topic and change the conversation. But I

1174
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 2: just I don't know, man, Yeah, I could see that.

1175
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: I'm not going near that. Yeah, I just bring back

1176
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: to the game. I'm not going near it. I think

1177
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: the Jets might win, but I can never underestimate how

1178
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: much Belichick hates the Jets, so I never really want

1179
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: to get there.

1180
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: Sinham starting, I don't know.

1181
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: I don't think it matters, man, Matt. I think Cam

1182
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,479
Speaker 1: Newton's terrible, but I think Dared Sidham's pretty terrible.

1183
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 2: From what I would agree, I mean, he but I

1184
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 2: wonder what I want is I want the narrative to

1185
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,959
Speaker 2: be over. If you gave Art's sid him an entire

1186
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: week to prepare, like this is your week, kid, right,

1187
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 2: and then he goes off against the Jets and he

1188
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 2: loses and looks bad. It ends the conversation about who

1189
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: Jared Stinham is going to be for the Patriots. It's

1190
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: no longer He's not the guy. I mean, it's just done.

1191
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 2: And I think you've seen throughout the course of the

1192
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 2: year why he's not playing and cam is it's because

1193
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 2: the team knows he's not very good and they learned

1194
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 2: that as they went as they were like, uh oh,

1195
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 2: he really can't like he thought he might, but he

1196
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: really can't. So they're going to bring in a bunch.

1197
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: And that's where I just think. I mean, put this way,

1198
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 2: the Patriots may have a chance to bring back both

1199
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett and Jimmy Garoppolo next year. Yeah, like that's possible.

1200
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: They could bring it. They could bring both quarterbacks back

1201
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 2: that they had, not that they will, but I think

1202
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 2: they could bring Garoppolo back if they if they have

1203
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 2: to have a chance to do it. If the forty

1204
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 2: Nunders do release him, so I just I would rather

1205
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: if it was Stinham, I might back the Patriots, but

1206
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 2: with Cam, I can't the Patriots. I just it's no

1207
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 2: and you have to run the football for the Patriots,

1208
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 2: and the Jets are decent and stop in the run.

1209
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the one thing the Jets do fairly well.

1210
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm not really going near that game. Just

1211
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: I think the Jets might win, but I'm not betting it.

1212
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: How about the what do you think about the Seahawks

1213
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 1: laying six to the forty nine ers.

1214
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 2: Look, this is a game with the Niners that they

1215
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 2: play hard. I'd be concerned and I think the numbers

1216
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 2: too heavy. Personally, I think Seattle wins the game. But

1217
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 2: I think if I was a back aside on this,

1218
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 2: I would take the six points.

1219
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would too. I like the under.

1220
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: I have it at forty six. You know, I go

1221
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: and you can get the picks on betting press because

1222
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: I think there's just gonna be one of those kind

1223
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: of close games. I kind of do like the Niners,

1224
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: but the Seahawks they do still have something to play for,

1225
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: of course, because they can win it. So I'm probably

1226
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: not going near it. But I agree that if there

1227
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: is a side, the forty nine ers. But the bet

1228
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 1: I like in this game if there is one, is

1229
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: the under on the forty six when I got it,

1230
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: because I do think that this is gonna be a

1231
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: game where both teams are gonna run and control the clock,

1232
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: and you know you've got all the offensive pieces out

1233
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: for the forty nine ers. But yeah, I agree, I would.

1234
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 2: Prefer the game not being in Arizona.

1235
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: Though, yes, it's an Arizona, right, Yeah, I.

1236
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 2: Would prefer not being there because that leads to more offense.

1237
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 2: If it was in sam fran I would be one

1238
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 2: hundred percent of the under.

1239
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: But it's a good point. Good point, very good point.

1240
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: How about the Chargers laying three and a half to

1241
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: the backup Chiefs.

1242
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of that. That just

1243
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 2: feels like the Casey's punting on the game.

1244
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, so like completely punting.

1245
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 2: Can the Chargers win a game at Arrowhead and the

1246
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 2: weather outside? I mean, I mean, here's the question, how

1247
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: does Anthony wit Lynn manage to win this game by

1248
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 2: three points and not cover? That's my question? Right, He's

1249
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 2: not gonna come, you know, he's not covering Like Anthony

1250
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 2: Lyn's not going to do anyone a favor on the

1251
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 2: way out the door. He's not going to cover against

1252
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 2: Kansas City, right, So, like, how does he backdoor lose

1253
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 2: by if they win the win by three, they won't

1254
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: the hook there matters.

1255
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I don't want it. I just don't. This

1256
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: is a type of game where I'm like, I'm staying away.

1257
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere. Second Cardinals laying three to the Rams.

1258
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 2: Look, something tells me that Rams are gonna win that game. Now,

1259
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 2: I'm not touching it, Okay, because I've been way off

1260
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 2: on this, But McVeigh has been talking about this backup

1261
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 2: quarterback like it's his son, like he likes this kid

1262
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 2: a lot, and and supposedly he says that ninety percent

1263
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 2: of the playbook is in for the Rams here, So no,

1264
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray's not gonna be one hundred percent, It's gonna

1265
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 2: be a you know, seventy five eighty percent. I don't know.

1266
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,240
Speaker 2: I just think after the Rams away they've played recently,

1267
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't put it past them. If the Rams win

1268
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 2: and go ten and six, are they they in?

1269
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: If the Rams win and go ten and six, they

1270
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: are in.

1271
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: Yes, so they got to win to get in correct.

1272
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: This is a game basically for the playoffs, so.

1273
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: It's a home dog with a win to get in scenario. Yes,

1274
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 2: how do we not take the Rams there?

1275
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: Because they have no running back and they have no quarterback.

1276
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: That that's the only way.

1277
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 2: Huh. So you need the defense to make a bunch

1278
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 2: of plays. Yeah, and they are fully healthy at defense. Yes,

1279
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 2: I'd buy the half a point, go three and a half.

1280
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: I'd lay it, would I would take the three and half,

1281
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:11,959
Speaker 2: not late, Sorry, I take the three and a half. Sorry,

1282
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 2: I would. I would take Rams plus three and a

1283
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 2: half if it gets there. I know one book fandels

1284
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 2: at three and a half right now, but everybody else

1285
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 2: is at three points bets is three even money, So

1286
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 2: they don't want to get they don't want to get

1287
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 2: off of it. It looks like there's Chargers that there's

1288
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: Cardinals money coming in though, So let the public bet

1289
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 2: the Cardinals and take the Rams late.

1290
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: Okay, I like it. I like where your heads are. Actually,

1291
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: yeah it is. It's at three and a half right

1292
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: now on DraftKings.

1293
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 2: For the ramsay, so so that hook matters for me.

1294
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 2: It's two and a half in the Westgate Contest. I

1295
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 2: will not be playing that. I probably would take that.

1296
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 2: I may do. The Cardinals are two and a half.

1297
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 2: I think I think it's a big I think it's

1298
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:52,919
Speaker 2: one of those games where it's going to be nip

1299
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 2: and tuck coming down. I would expect both quarterbacks to

1300
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: make mistakes. I think both defenses need to rise up.

1301
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 2: One thing that drove me nuts and I'm wondering is

1302
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 2: it a Jared Goff thing or a Sean McVay thing.

1303
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 2: But the amount of horizontal running that this team that

1304
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 2: the Rams do on offense drives me crazy. Now everything

1305
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 2: is a is a bubble screen or a jet sweep

1306
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,439
Speaker 2: or a toss. I mean, they just don't go north

1307
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 2: and south enough. And it drives me crazy with with

1308
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 2: with Jared Goff the quarterback spot, So I wonder with

1309
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 2: the backup do they throw the ball more vertically? Can

1310
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 2: they throw the ball vertically more? Can they be more

1311
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 2: north and south against the Cardinals? I guess we'll find out.

1312
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 2: Is it the offense or is it golf?

1313
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't know. I you got if you talked

1314
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: me into taking the Rams plus three and a half,

1315
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be really mad at you because I'm just

1316
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: I'm not ready, not ready to do it. I have

1317
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: no idea what we just wait.

1318
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 2: I think public money is coming into the Cardinals.

1319
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: I think I know, of course it is.

1320
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: Of course, I think the line is gonna be higher.

1321
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 2: I think the lines.

1322
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: Well, I'm on draftings right now, I'm looking at it,

1323
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: and over the last hour it has moved to three

1324
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,479
Speaker 1: and a half. That so you're you're right. I mean,

1325
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: this is man.

1326
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 2: To watch it. I mean you you might get four,

1327
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 2: you might get, but you might get more. I mean

1328
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: it's a it's a home dog in a must win situation.

1329
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just I don't really care. I mean again,

1330
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 2: if this backup kid can be at eighty five to

1331
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 2: ninety pero of the playbook, okay, I mean I don't

1332
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 2: I know. The running back situation is horrible. You got

1333
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 2: third string running backs back there. Who is Henderson? Who's running?

1334
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,919
Speaker 1: No, Henderson's out, He's on ir It's gonna be Malcolm Brown,

1335
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: assuming that Cam Akers can't come back, which I'm assuming

1336
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: at the moment.

1337
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 2: So but if he does come back, does that change

1338
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: your opinion? Maybe?

1339
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: Maybe? I don't know. I don't know enough about Walford.

1340
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: You know, I just don't know enough about him, like

1341
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: they do, be really tough to back.

1342
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 2: Them at every RAMS person I follow says this kid

1343
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 2: can play.

1344
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: Okay, but I mean who knows.

1345
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 2: But everyone everyone covers the Rams says, if you think

1346
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 2: the offense is not gonna work because of the backup quarterback,

1347
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 2: you're wrong. Like all right, I mean, oh.

1348
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: Man, okay, all right, Well again, Darren Goff has you know,

1349
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: rarely impressed me anyway, So we'll maybe.

1350
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 2: Sir, teaser three and a half, four and a half

1351
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 2: get to ten RAM plus ten at home, right, all right,

1352
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 2: all right.

1353
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: Austin, already, I'm gonna give my teaser at the end

1354
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: of this because I do have a two team the

1355
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: patented paral two team teaser six on the year you're crushing, man,

1356
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I've just made mine as we were doing this,

1357
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: I was betting it on draftings as we were talking

1358
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: through this. Sometimes this helps my process. I have just

1359
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: bet it. I will give it at the end. Let's

1360
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: finish up the last two games that we haven't talked about.

1361
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: Colt slaying fourteen to the Jaguars in Indianapolis.

1362
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I just think this is a game they win, right,

1363
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:37,919
Speaker 2: that don't cover?

1364
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: Right? I don't. I don't. I don't think that it's

1365
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: something where I could feel comfortable.

1366
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 2: It feels like a twenty to three type of game

1367
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: where yes, they just do enough to win, the Jags

1368
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 2: do nothing, and then it's just an ugly awful Week

1369
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 2: seventeen slop fest. Yes, and like, okay, maybe one bounce

1370
00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 2: of the ball, the Jags lose it by twenty to

1371
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 2: tw ten and you lose your bet. So like, no way,

1372
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 2: you can never beat the Jaguars or the Colts in

1373
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 2: this game.

1374
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: I agree. And finally the Saints slank six and a

1375
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: half to the Panthers.

1376
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 2: So this is an interesting game for me because I

1377
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 2: want to tease. This is a game I want to

1378
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 2: tease down and take the Saints. Yep, just because the

1379
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 2: Saints have to win this game, right, like going But

1380
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 2: will they know they're They don't.

1381
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: They don't have to. I think the only way they

1382
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: get the number one seed is if they the Packers

1383
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: have to lose, right guaranteed, and they have to win

1384
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: and the Seahawks have to win. That's the only way

1385
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: they get it. So they lose the Seahawks have to

1386
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: win because if it's a head, this is my understanding.

1387
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 2: It's a three headed monster.

1388
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: Right now, I had to head with the with the Packers,

1389
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: they lose a three a three way tie.

1390
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 2: They win, okay because that third Yeah, okay, and that's right.

1391
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 2: I'm receive Krannaky doing that. Yeah, I would, just I mean,

1392
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 2: if I played this, tease, just tease down to a point,

1393
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 2: say it's gona win the game, that's all.

1394
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: I don't even like it. I don't like it. I mean,

1395
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: the Panthers are down. Every running back, not even Mike

1396
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: Davis is playing in this one. Right, I don't even know.

1397
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: But it's Steady Covers. I don't know who knows. I

1398
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: just i'd stay away from it, all right, Matt. So

1399
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: we'll have our five official picks. Here are the ones

1400
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 1: that are under consideration right now. Vikings lank six and

1401
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,959
Speaker 1: a half to the Lions, yep. The Steelers getting nine

1402
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: from the Browns yep. The Ravens laying twelve and a

1403
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: half to the Bengals, the Packers laying five and a

1404
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: half to the Bears, the Bucks laying six and a

1405
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: half to the Falcons, Washington laying one and a half

1406
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: to the Eagles, Bills laying one and a half to

1407
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, the Cowboys, I think it was right laying

1408
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: two and a half to the Giants, and maybe the

1409
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: Raiders laying two and a half to the Browns.

1410
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 2: Were way too many favorites.

1411
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: No, no, that's fine.

1412
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1413
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: So I like the Steelers, you know that, Okay, getting

1414
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: nine and a half? Yeah, you're okay with that? Yep, okay,

1415
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: very good. All right, what else do you like? You

1416
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: like the Packers, right, you're big on the Packers.

1417
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like like I like the Packer Kers and

1418
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 2: the Vikings both to be go out to be home.

1419
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get those, Okay, So there we go. So

1420
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: the other ones are I mean, I like the Ravens,

1421
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: but that's a big number, of course.

1422
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1423
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: Washington basically just needs to win the game.

1424
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like, I like Washington. There. I wish it

1425
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 2: was a dog though, man, that's I got.

1426
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: Well, we don't have any other dogs, man, Like that's it.

1427
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: It's it's it's the Steelers.

1428
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 2: I guess. I mean, there is some logic to laying

1429
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 2: favorites in Week seventeen, just because of the fact that

1430
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 2: there are teams who need to win and at this point,

1431
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 2: the books have all the algorithm data that they need

1432
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 2: right to come up with and tell you who is

1433
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 2: going to be you know, where the money is going

1434
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 2: to go and where people are going to get into. Yeah,

1435
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: but I've gone I've done more study into why lines

1436
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 2: are made where they are this year than I ever

1437
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 2: have before. And it is a fascinating year because in

1438
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 2: Las Vegas, in the month of November it was the

1439
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 2: most profitable month in the history of Vegas, and nine

1440
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 2: out of every ten bets made were one in the

1441
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 2: NFL by the books. Wow, okay, ninety percent wagers in

1442
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 2: the NFL were won by the books.

1443
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: Holy cow, that's insane.

1444
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 2: The public got annihilated this year in the NFL. Just

1445
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 2: week after week after week, they got killed. The only

1446
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 2: thing that really hurt the books was two team teasers,

1447
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 2: and a lot of people did very well, including myself

1448
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 2: on two team teasers. But other than that, I mean

1449
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 2: like literally everything else. So the lines this year have

1450
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 2: been super sharp, and they've dangled in from of the

1451
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 2: public without fans in the stands. I think that's when

1452
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 2: we look back on the NFL year, I think that's

1453
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 2: gonna be the most difficult thing for all of us

1454
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 2: to realize is that fans in the stands really did

1455
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,919
Speaker 2: play a pretty big factor in how these games went

1456
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 2: and just straight up playing football without any real influence

1457
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 2: of an environment. The books took advantage of us, of

1458
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 2: everyone pros and Joe's I.

1459
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: Got one for you then? Are you ready?

1460
01:03:59,680 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 2: Now?

1461
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: Technically the consensus line is at three, but it hasn't

1462
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: as the DraftKings just moved. Why don't we just take

1463
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: the Rams getting three and a half against the Cardinals? Yes,

1464
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: love it, Okay, okay.

1465
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 2: It's two and a half for me in my contest,

1466
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 2: but let's take it.

1467
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So that'll be our official five plays,

1468
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: even though again we don't have a contest. Yes, but

1469
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: it's the Vikings laying six and a half the lines,

1470
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: the Steelers getting nine. It's nine or nine and a half,

1471
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: but we'll do it at nine to the Browns, the

1472
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: Packers length five and a half to the Bears, Washington

1473
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: Lane one and a half to the Eagles, and the

1474
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: Rams getting three and a half from the Cardinals.

1475
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 2: Two dogs, three favorites, right, yeah, I like two dogs.

1476
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: Tore your favorites, yes, and one of the favorites is Washington,

1477
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: which is a point and a half.

1478
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 2: Yes, like it.

1479
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: You go with that. Go all right, and let me

1480
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: tell you the two team teasers that I bet while

1481
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: we were doing this as we were talking through it

1482
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 1: is h and again this is on DraftKings because I'm

1483
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: in New Hampshire sale place. Second bet the Steelers. I'm

1484
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: teasing them up from which is currently plus nine two

1485
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 1: plus fifteen like it, and the Titans. I'm teasing down

1486
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: from seven and a half to laying one and a half.

1487
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 2: Like.

1488
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,439
Speaker 1: That's my two team teaser. It's at minus one twelve.

1489
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: By the way, didn't two team teasers Matt used to

1490
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: be at minus one forty last year. Well, but whenever.

1491
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 2: I are shopping, books are trying to attract different business. Interesting,

1492
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 2: So the Westgate in Vegas is miss one forty. Circa

1493
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 2: in Vegas is the low at mass one twenty five.

1494
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 2: That's why I bet all my two team teasers at

1495
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 2: Circa Sports. What is DraftKings offering it at?

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Speaker 1: This? One is at minus one twelve. I had another

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Speaker 1: one that I did. Yeah, last it's mostly been at

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Speaker 1: minus one twenty for me. Yes, so minus one twelve

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Speaker 1: I don't know, But.

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Speaker 2: So Johnny Avello in Week seventeen is trying to entice

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Speaker 2: people to bet teasers. Yeah, which is scary to.

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Speaker 1: Me, to be honest, it is scary what I saw

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Speaker 1: it was minus one twelve. I sort of had the moment.

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Speaker 1: But I feel very, very confident that the Titans are

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Speaker 1: going to beat the Texans. I don't feel confident about

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Speaker 1: seven and a half whatsoever. Right one and a half

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Speaker 1: close to a pick them. I feel confident that they're

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Speaker 1: going to win that game by you know whatever, more

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Speaker 1: than you know a point. So I have that, and

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Speaker 1: I'm very big on the Steelers not getting come I

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Speaker 1: mean over you know, fifteen points. I'm confident the Steelers

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Speaker 1: are gonna be able to keep this game close. I'll

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Speaker 1: take the extra six, so I feel I feel pretty

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Speaker 1: pretty good about it. So that's my two team teaser.

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Speaker 1: Matt will get you'll give your two team teaser. I

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Speaker 1: assume on the daily juice like you always do.

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Speaker 2: As always, we will have well, I may have two

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Speaker 2: this week just because this is a we have no

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Speaker 2: Thursday night football, we have no Monday night football, no

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Speaker 2: Saturday football. We got sixteen games on Sunday. It is

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Speaker 2: one of the best eating and lounging days of the year,

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Speaker 2: so I may have a couple, I may have a

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Speaker 2: bit more action than normal, so maybe two teams well,

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Speaker 2: and the year with a couple of two team teasers excellent.

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Speaker 1: And again don't forget Sunday morning, we're still doing the

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Speaker 1: live stream and then for the first round the playoffs, Matt,

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Speaker 1: We're good on that. We're gonna do a half hour

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Speaker 1: live stream on Saturday before the games and then a

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Speaker 1: half hour live stream on Sunday. That's at YouTube dot

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Speaker 1: com slash Betting Pros, so you can get all your

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Speaker 1: little great you know, last minute advice you can get

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Speaker 1: from Matt. Don't forget to join again Discord, which is nuts, Matt.

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Speaker 1: What is it twenty five hundred.

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Speaker 2: Something like that. Yeah, I mean it's it's just during

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Speaker 2: games there's about three hundred people, you know a night

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Speaker 2: who are in there chat. Yeah, and I mean some

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Speaker 2: really funny stuff comes up, something I don't even like.

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Speaker 2: It's become its own little community. I mean, they're betting

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Speaker 2: on Chinese basketball, so I mean, yeah, go figure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah crazy, Okay. So also we are going to we're

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Speaker 1: trying to cook up something special for you guys for

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. We're working on that. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: with more on that, but in the meantime, enjoy the

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Speaker 1: last NFL betting weekend of the regular season. There's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a ton of great playoffs stuff, and Matt and

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Speaker 1: I will talk to you here next week