1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Morning everybody, it's the j Envy Justseilarie Charlamagne the guy. 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: in the building today. We got Roll Timmy. Yes, sir, 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: I'm good, bro. How you doing. How you doing, family, 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: I'm good. Good to see you, Good to see you. 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: It's been a couple of years. 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you were working. 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm doing what i can to my family because last 10 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: time we see him, he wasn't married. He about the 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: music park. I'm talking about both. I'm talking about like this. 12 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: I'm he has the husband and dad glow. You know 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: that's amazing. 14 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,639 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Yea being and being and being 15 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: a father man. And it's changed my life man, because 16 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: having a three year old boy and a two year 17 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: old girl, like, I'm just learning so much about myself 18 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: as a man, and it just does it. So anybody 19 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: father's man, like, please spend time with your children because 20 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: at this age I'm seeing how much it is that 21 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: affects them. But I'm not there, you know, So it's 22 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: it's it's a beautiful thing just to see him grow 23 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: and them both grow. 24 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, is it a difference, Like, I know you had 25 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: your son first, was it that anything changed when you 26 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: had your girl? 27 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, so being a Nigerian mine now of paranting that, 28 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: you know, but my son, Like, so I'm blessed because 29 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: my son is actually a genius. So like and everybody 30 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: say that about you know that. We really can't put 31 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: him in school because his brain, the way he takes 32 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: information is at an eight year old level. Damn, So 33 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: we had to take So he's doing preschool just to 34 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: be around other kids for socialia, but in terms of 35 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: we have to get a tutor because it's too advanced. 36 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: So he's doing his alphabets backwards. He's speaking Spanish learning 37 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: Sea at three, so like, and so I tell him 38 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: things and he gets it once, So I'm blessed. But 39 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: then the funny thing is my daughter is actually faster 40 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: because she's watching her brother right, so now they're both 41 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: going through the same thing. So it's a blessing because 42 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: it's like the house teaching, y'all ship yes, yes, that 43 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: x y z z gg and that's not I know 44 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: my CBA. I'm like what you know what I'm saying. 45 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 1: So it's been beautiful, man, But I'm done. With too, though, Yeah, 46 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: I'm finishing. She you just have. He just told me 47 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: so much love, you know what an experience. But I'm done. 48 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm done because this generation, dude's too many. You need 49 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: you need to focus on what you can. I'm already gone, 50 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: so I'm already at a disadvantage. So like just making 51 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: sure two is good at this in this time, then 52 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 1: I think that's enough for me personally. That's what I 53 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: said at first, too, and then you five six to it. 54 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: First I got a twenty three. She just turned twenty 55 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: three yesterday, twenty three, twenty one, and then we waited 56 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: like ten years, and now I got eleven or ten eight? 57 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: Wow in a two year old. Wow. I love being 58 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: a father. Like being a father is, it keeps you young, 59 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: it keeps you on your toes. It just it keeps 60 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: you hungry as well. Absolutely, and I enjoy it. Now. 61 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: Your wife said that after two days of meeting you, 62 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: she knew you were the one. Yeah, did you know 63 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: she was the one? After two days? Oh? 64 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: Boy, don't get him in trouble. 65 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: Not because of her, but because I wasn't ready for 66 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: what she already was ready for. And usually women are 67 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: smarter than us you get what I'm saying. So like 68 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: she saw it, I knew it. I fought it, you 69 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I knew that I never experienced 70 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: something like that. I knew that I met someone that 71 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: was already challenging me as a person in spiritually. She's 72 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: a prayer warriors, so like her whole thing was we 73 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: speaking in tongues for an hour and a half, were going, 74 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: were reading the Bible together, like, so she approached me 75 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: on a way that like it made me say, damn, bro, 76 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: you really aren't who you think you are as a person. 77 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: You're still a boy, you know. And so she made 78 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: me mentally level up. So I still was like, nah, 79 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: she's lit. But everybody then I'm like, oh my god, 80 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: I can't stop thinking, I can't stop vibing. I can't 81 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: stop I don't want nothing else. It was a gradual 82 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: how did you meet? We the Essence Fest, so so Visa. 83 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: She's she's an artist, but she retired, but she's an artist, 84 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: and she was headlining as well on the main stage 85 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: of Essence. It's a funny quick story that I was 86 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: there for Power, but I was also performing. So I 87 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: went to a private party. Okay, I'll stop. The time 88 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: I went from a private party and I actually had 89 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: a girl there with me. Oh there, yeah, like a fly, 90 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: like a nice little weekend vibe. And I'm still in 91 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: the whole Timmy Days. You know what I'm saying. I 92 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: was doing Timmy Days. So now I'm still violent, you know. 93 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:36,119 Speaker 1: But it was Shorty was like, Yo, I don't feel 94 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: too well. I'm going to stay in and I was like, well, 95 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: I gotta go to this Spotify party really quickly. I'll 96 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: be there ten minutes. I meet you in a book. 97 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: She's like, I don't feel like going. But she was 98 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: with me the entire day. I go to the party 99 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: and all my power crew was this way, and I 100 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: was like, man, I just seen all these niggaves, I've 101 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: seen him. I'm good. Let me just do my own thing. 102 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: And there she is, like literally sitting on the pool table, 103 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: and it was just like like, oh wow, who is this? 104 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: And then we spoke for three four hours. So the 105 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: illest thing that I did that I feel like change 106 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: the trajectory of our relationship was the fact that she 107 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: was like, look, I really want to get to know you. 108 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: I think you're super lit. Let's see each other tomorrow. 109 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: And I said, honestly, like I have somebody here, I 110 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: don't want to cross ties. I don't want to play 111 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: you like that. I didn't want to. I don't want 112 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: to put you in a situation where you view me 113 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: as this guy. So let me handle this first and 114 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: then we can link, you know, whenever, when there's no distraction. 115 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: So she remembered that because I know if she would 116 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: have met me doing this, she would have been thinking 117 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: forever that, like anybody's like that, you know. So that's 118 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: how we met, and you know, we've been together ever since. 119 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: And she she wasn't living in the States at the time. 120 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: She was in Tanzania, so she flew out. And yeah, 121 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: so the young lady that you left in the hotel, 122 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: I was sick. She must feel sick. Why I gotta 123 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: be sick? Why you got to go out and leave me? 124 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: It could have been a headache from our drink. Too 125 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: much left to sit girl in want to go back somebody. 126 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm saying. It was crazy. So 127 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: how was that conversation with her? Because now it's like, 128 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, if you wasn't sick, you could have 129 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: been the one. Yeah, I don't even know she could 130 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,119 Speaker 1: have been the one. Okay, yeah, but she was dope. 131 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: But again, I wasn't in that mindset of anything. I 132 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: just met someone that made me say, oh, gotcha, this 133 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: is different, bro, don't lose this. 134 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 2: But I do respect how you told the like, I'm 135 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: here with somebody and I don't even you know, I 136 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: don't want you to cross. 137 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: I love that, And I feel like again, like you know, 138 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: the way you meet people, sometimes people never forget because 139 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: then it starts being like, okay, well you did this 140 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, so then everything is always been integrity, 141 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: yeah you know, And so I wanted to start it 142 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: off that way. And then I had the conversation short 143 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: you like, look like you know this is this is 144 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: a vibe. We cool. I had a good time, you know, 145 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: I think we're just gonna and she was like, yeah, 146 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: come the problem It was nothing. It wasn't deep. So 147 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: how long were you together with your wife before you 148 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: actually asked the question? Oh, a year and a half. 149 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: And how did you know? Because nowadays I feel like 150 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: people wait a lot longer because they want to make 151 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: sure with you know, so many people talking about toxic relationships, 152 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: so many people getting divorced. What say this is the 153 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: one that I want to do it now. 154 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: You just said he was speaking tongues for four hours. 155 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: Lord. Yeah. Nah. You know. The onliest thing that I've 156 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: always done in my career personally is I've always trusted 157 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: my instincts and I've always trusted my intuition. So I 158 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: never second guess anything, you know, And that's because I 159 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: never took an acting class, I never took music lessons. 160 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: It was always whatever. So this is no different that 161 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: I knew that it was Okay, this is the time, Oh, 162 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: this is gonna be it, this how it goes. And 163 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: I'm very in tune with God, so everything was just like, Okay, 164 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: this is who it needs to be and this is 165 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: who it is. So it was it was ordained, Bro. 166 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: I can't really tell you, like, yeah, it was just 167 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: like this woman doesn't deserve to wait, you know what 168 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, what am I doing? I already know? 169 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: So why I waste time? 170 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: So what is the rotiney prayer and the prayers for. 171 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: This man? 172 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: The way you speak about v his wife, they're gonna 173 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: be asking for that prayer. I want to know how 174 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: has been a husband and a dad affected your music? 175 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: Like did it change make you want to sing different 176 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: about different things? 177 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: Or he keeps saying you got like nineteen songs. 178 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: But how does this impact your music now the family life? 179 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm able to make records that So for example, 180 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: I have a song called Blessed Right and it just 181 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: basically says on the album, basically says I have everything 182 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: I need and it's a mixture of afrobeat with gospel. 183 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: You know, that's a one version. Then I have a 184 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: version of you know when I met her in essence 185 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: and I wrote from the perspective of I don't need 186 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: nobody else, it's you, and put it on some cool drums. 187 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: So that love has been easy to transp because it's 188 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: transcribed because it's just naturally what's going on. And me 189 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: and Punch we did this whole project together. So my 190 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: stories are easy to convey to my brother, you know, 191 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: and so we're able just to get these going. But 192 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: as a father, you know, like you said earlier, like 193 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: before we even started, just being able to look in 194 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: my kids eyes and say yo, like I have no 195 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: choice but to win, yo, Like I have to do this. 196 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: I don't have a regular nine to five where I 197 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: can clock in, do what I need to do and 198 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: go home. I have to earn everything creatively and think ahead. 199 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: So when I look at him and he's happy and 200 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: he's doing his alphabets backwards, I'm like, I gotta fund this, 201 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so that mindset has 202 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: made me even bigger hustler when it comes down to it. 203 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: And you know, I was going through a lot of 204 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: mental issues, not issues, but mental moments where it was 205 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: like COVID at the time, and then dealing with a 206 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: woman who I genuinely love for sure, but postpartum is 207 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: a monster that men don't really talk about that we 208 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: got to deal with as well, and being giving and 209 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: giving and giving. So I was going through so much 210 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: at the time that music was my therapy. So that's 211 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: why it took so long to make this next, this 212 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: project now, because one I had to get myself right 213 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: mentally and then make sure my family was good and 214 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: then kill a lot of my bad habits of who 215 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: I was before I go to the next stage. Now, 216 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: did you have to go to Derby? Yeah? I did, 217 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: I did. I tried it. I tried it. What made 218 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: you try it to? Because I'm usually the guy that 219 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: everyone goes to for answers. I'm using the guy that 220 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: everyone goes to for prayer. I'm using a guy that 221 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: everyone goes to, like, Yo, can you help me through this? 222 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: And when you're like a leader, or who do you 223 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: go to? You know? And my wife definitely is there. 224 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: But there's certain things men go through that no one 225 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: else can really and a lot of people don't go 226 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: through the same things I deal with on a daily 227 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: of fame and pressure and anxiety and you know, being 228 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: around people that just cloud chasing. It's a toxic industry. 229 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: So when you go through so much of that, no 230 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: one really is there to talk to. So then I 231 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: was like, God, help me. I did that. At the time, 232 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: I wasn't ready for that true conversation. Then I went 233 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: and said, let me just talk to somebody, and it 234 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: was great. But I think it's really important to have 235 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: the right therapist too, absolutely, you know. So it didn't 236 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 1: really match. And then that didn't work, but I could 237 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: see how it does work. Then it was like, no, 238 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: let me just let me just go to the Bible. Man, 239 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: let me just go to the Bible. And then I 240 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: just opened up Peter, and Peter became my therapist. You 241 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I just kept reading the Bible, 242 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: I read James and like, those two books changed my 243 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: mindset and just gave me like the guideline of how 244 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: to be a good man and a cerebral man. And 245 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: so that changed my life. Man, I genuinely changed my life. 246 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: So therapy helped open the door. But then I just 247 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: used God and disciples as my therapist. But you're going 248 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: through depression. Is that why you said I have to 249 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: see therapy. Was it something that you was like, I 250 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: need some help? Like what got you to the point 251 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: where was like I need this help? Was it anxiety? 252 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: Was it? Yeah? It was it was anxiety. It was 253 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: anxiety that I never felt before. It was feeling like 254 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: at the time I really couldn't speak to anybody, that 255 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: the world is shut down. And then also I had 256 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: a hit record, like so in my bed was going 257 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: ridiculous at that time, but I couldn't travel, you know, 258 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: so I couldn't promote it the way it needed to promote. 259 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: So you're seeing it go viral, but you're like, damn, 260 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: I can't even really do anything, you know, And so 261 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: that also played into it. But then it was also 262 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: just like you're not able to move, so you're starting 263 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: to see the bank account go a little, you know, 264 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: and so you're just like, hey, I never felt this. 265 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: I've always been good, and so being able to start 266 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: viewing self awareness like Okay, why do I feel this way? 267 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: What are my triggers? What do I go through that 268 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: makes me say? Okay? Let me use this as an outlet. 269 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: Who am I like? And I didn't have those answers 270 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: at the time, and I was praying, but I wasn't 271 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: as close to God as I am now, and it 272 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: was just like, man, I just need to talk to 273 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: another person, you know, with an unbiased and just give 274 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: me some advice. And I did it, and it was beautiful. 275 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: It was just that I wish that well, everything happens 276 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: for the reason, but I could see how it works 277 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: for people, and I just said, okay, you know, no more, 278 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: no more trying to tough it out. Why Why am 279 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: I toughing it out when I'm hurting myself? You know? 280 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: And I think as black men, we need and people 281 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: in general, as black men, we need to be okay 282 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: with being vulnerable. We need to be okay with dealing 283 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: with insecurities. We need to because it makes you strong 284 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: when you attack them, you know, and and starve the 285 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: things that you think are vices, you know. And so 286 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: I did that. I stopped drinking, stop smoking, stop doing 287 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: everything I was doing, and really just said, you know 288 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: this two years is going to be about me before 289 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: I even write a record. And that's when when I 290 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: got right. It was when everything just started falling in 291 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: my together. You know, are you drinking too much, were 292 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: you're smoking too much? Or where is it controlling your 293 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: life to the point where you it's like I have 294 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: to stop. It wasn't like an addiction, right, but it 295 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: was more of like for ten years of my life 296 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 1: through a whole power run, through music, through having platinum records. 297 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: You're in the club and doing this three four days 298 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: a week, so liquld becomes a vice. Liquld becomes and 299 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: then you're having some time you didn't even realize social 300 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: anxieties or things. So you're like, damn, I don't want 301 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: to really talk to these people, but this is soothing me, 302 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: so let me drink this to get through the moment, 303 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: you know. So you don't realize and then you're like, damn, 304 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: I gotta show I'm on tour and the like, why 305 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: do I feel like I need to drink a little 306 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: bit before I hit the stage? Man? Yeah, you know 307 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know, as a community, you know 308 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: you're on stage. 309 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: You've had the same thing. Yep, And now I don't. 310 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: I don't. 311 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: Well, when I was pregnant, of course I couldn't drink, 312 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: but before that I did stop, like, yo, why do 313 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 2: I need a going It's just like that nervousness and 314 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: anxiety and you didn't even know it's that until you 315 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: go through something and you're like, damn, I don't need 316 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: that exactly. 317 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: And so for me it was like not again, it 318 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: was it was a it was a crutch, not rather, 319 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: not a dittion. I didn't need it, but it was like, oh, 320 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: this is good for what I need right now, you know, 321 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: and smoking and things like that, and it was just 322 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: like escape, you know. And so when I realized, damn, 323 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: I'm using this as an escape rather than just for 324 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: joy or pleasure of whatever. I don't I don't want that, 325 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: it's how do you deal with it now? Because your 326 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: life still wraps around clubs in the industry, I'm sure 327 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: you still have those anxieties of going to a club 328 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: and not want to talk to people or performing on stage. 329 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: How do you deal with that? Now? I think I 330 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: realized that that vices and liquor and things are are 331 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: the isn't the problem? I realized that there was. That's 332 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: just the solution. It's not the problem. It's a deeper 333 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: thing that it's it's me. So once I started getting 334 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: knee whole, Once I started realizing, yo, you are enough, bro. 335 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: Once I started realizing there's a relationship with God that 336 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: needs to be top tapped, and more, once I started 337 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: realizing that the devil is a liar, you know, Once 338 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: I started realizing self awareness is going to change this. 339 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: Once I got me right, I didn't need those things. 340 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: I liked how I felt better without them, actually, you 341 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's like it wasn't a solution. 342 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: It was it was a solution to a problem that 343 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: I had to work in within myself, you know. And 344 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: so once I realized that it took the power away 345 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: from anything, you know, I didn't need validation even and 346 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: in this industry you get so used to getting validated 347 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: and you're lit. It becomes oh, this is how I 348 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: need to feel. It's a normal thing. So when you're 349 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: not getting that at times, it's like, what's wrong with me? 350 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: What changed? What happened? You know? And so even going 351 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: through that, so just I tell my boys and tell 352 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: people like, listen, man, it's okay to use these things 353 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: as testimony because more people are going through these things 354 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: than not, you know. And so when you can see 355 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: somebody who's just happens to be in a public space, 356 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: I'm no different from you. 357 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: You know. 358 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: I just worked on myself, you know, I did the 359 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: little things. And again it is not a saying an addiction. 360 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: It's just I know that when there was an issue, 361 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: i'd run to something or you know, and so I 362 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: just would make it where I didn't run to anything. 363 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: I just ran to God and I ran to myself 364 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: and my family, you know. And so that was what 365 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: it was. 366 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 2: I love hearing that you got the song Bestie, Yes 367 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 2: you sampled from the Lauren Hills killing Me Softly? Did 368 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: she need to hear that before you? 369 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: Yes she did. 370 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 2: How was it working with her even even just let 371 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: her hear that? 372 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: So Bessie is one of my favorite records on the album, 373 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: and it's one of those songs that is divine man. 374 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: So Lauren Hill went to my high school. So we 375 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: all went to me, Sizza, Lauryn Hill, a lot of 376 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: other people, you know what I mean, and so yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, 377 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: so yeah. So we all from that, from that cloth, 378 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 1: and it was amazing because full circle really quickly. I 379 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: was a freshman when she came and did her Hall 380 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: of Fame speech. So I was third roll sitting watching 381 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: her get her speech, and I'm like, man, I'm telling 382 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: my boy, I'm like, yo, bro, Like I'm gonna do that, bro. 383 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: And they don't really give They give it like maybe 384 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: every ten years to somebody, you know. And I was like, 385 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be me, bro, And it's like, there's 386 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: like four thousand people that go to our school, so 387 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: the odds of it being you is not really likely. 388 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: So and I just worked, worked, work, and I did 389 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: the little things, man. And in twenty eighteen, I was 390 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: inducted to my high school Hall offesto, you know what 391 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: I mean. And I brought my boy, who I told 392 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna don't you know. And then but also that 393 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: same year, Sissa was invited as well to the Hall 394 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: of Fame. So she and and a lot of people 395 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: don't understand that when we grew up, like I was 396 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: a ballplayer, singing girls, that popular kid, and she was 397 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: like kind of like an outcast, you know what I 398 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 1: mean to herself. Really didn't and she'll talk about it. 399 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: But I was always been like, yo, come hang out 400 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: with us, come kick it with us, when everybody was 401 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: like pushing away, pushing away because we didn't understand the 402 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: swag then like she was swaggy like this this then 403 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: you know, so it's different, you know, and it was 404 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: like whatever, So so it was dope to hear, you know, 405 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: acknowledge that in her speech to that, you know, like 406 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: Rod took care of me when I was in school. 407 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: But do you call it now? But like your remember 408 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: when the whole school was against you, charged about it 409 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: right now, But remember it's so dope because during the 410 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: time that love rhythm was going crazy and my bed 411 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: was going crazy, and then she called me and was like, yo, 412 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: I love what you're doing. Let's get it. It's going 413 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: And then literally when like two weeks later, her stuff 414 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: started going bsurd and it was like okay, Uhlana, you 415 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: remember that song that you said it goes in this 416 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: and me td you know, one, you know, So it 417 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: was it was cool, but you have to respect it. 418 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: But sorry, So Lauren Hill she heard the record, thank 419 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: god for Empire to clear it, but she had to 420 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 1: clear it first. But I wasn't there when she heard 421 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: it though. But but yeah, from what I heard, it 422 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: was love. And you know, again like having a legend. 423 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: You know, I've used her sample twice actually, you know, 424 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: from in my bed. Oh yeah, you know. And so 425 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: it's always paying homage, you know. And so that record 426 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: doing well was really cool. But yeah, it's been it's 427 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: been a it's been a it's been a beautiful journey, 428 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: beautiful journey. 429 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 2: Speaking bed. Do you ever feel pressure to match the 430 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: success of Lover for them or in my bed? 431 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: Uh? As a competitor, yes, you know what I mean. 432 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: As a dog, yes, but you know it's it's it's 433 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: this moment you know there. Oh yeah, and that's but 434 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: the thing is too, I was making those type of 435 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: records right while I was feeling power, right, so the 436 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: label will be like, yo, dog, you got two days 437 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: to make a hit, Go to la do what you 438 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: need to do. I was never able to comfortably make 439 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: music like these other artists are able to do so 440 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: I was thank God for the talent. I was able 441 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: to go make a record, go back to set. While 442 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: I'm making a record, studying my lines in the booth, 443 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: there's a meeting. All right, so's supposed to okay? Cool? 444 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: Got it? Like I'm getting that, and thank god it 445 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: was able to go platinum. But at the same time, 446 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: I never had the opportunity that other artists had. So 447 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: now I was like, ro let me get yourself right, 448 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: take care of your family. This is a season that 449 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: you're supposed to grow home because when it goes crazy again, 450 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: the foundation got to be solid. That's why you're sitting down, 451 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: you know. So then it was like, okay, but in 452 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: the meantime, let's make the best music possible. So that's 453 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: why this project took two years, because I wanted to 454 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: make eighteen in my bed moments, you know what I 455 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: mean with this double album, and so I feel comfortable. 456 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: I was able to take my time, visualize it. And 457 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: the cool thing about it is that I was doing 458 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: in my bed and servicing my afrobeat fans instead of 459 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: the R and B side would be like, yo, where's 460 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: our record? You know, And so now we were like, 461 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: let's literally make a double album nine records, Afrobeat, nine records, 462 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: R and b's called in My Heart for the R 463 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: and B side, in My Veins for the Nigerian Blood. 464 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: So you get in two versions of row timmy full 465 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: album and these are my life stories, you know. But 466 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: then it was like yo, some people just like the 467 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: acting side, So like, let's figure this out. Let's fund 468 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: and pay for every music video to be shot. So 469 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: we put, we put money down, we put I put 470 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: about a quarter million and make every video. And then 471 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: then the labels like, yo, we got ten songs for you, bro, 472 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: we can only do ten. I was like, now I 473 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: don't want to do ten, I want to do eighteen. 474 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: Well okay, well you gotta pay for it. Pay for 475 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: the other eight paid. The producer paid everything. So it 476 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: was like again I tell artists or people man like, 477 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: you have to invest in yourself. You gotta believe in 478 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: yourself because I know what this is gonna do and 479 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: you may not see it right now, but I know 480 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: what this is gonna do, so let me take this 481 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: upon myself to make it happen with no question. So 482 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: they were like, we could do two record, two videos. 483 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: It was like all right, cool that standard. This is 484 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: great stuff, thank you, you know what I mean. But 485 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: now we're doing eighteen. You know, we're gonna service it 486 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: out for everybody to be able to have a moment 487 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: with this song because it's real to me acting as well. 488 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: So you get in the R and B side, you're 489 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: getting the afro B side, and you're getting the actor, 490 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, and I directed everything, you know what I mean, 491 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: And so shout out to Beyonce because I know Beyonce 492 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: has done something whereas the double album and you know, 493 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: but what we're doing differently is we're treating every song 494 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: like a single. So the album drops, every song is out, 495 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: but every three weeks you're gonna get a new video. 496 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: So you're gonna be getting new content from the same 497 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: project for about seven eight months. 498 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 2: This is the real definition of a body of work, 499 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 2: a body of work. 500 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: I was like, yo, Like, if I'm gonna I'm not 501 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: gonna come out and do everything that a regular artists go. 502 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: Two weeks, they do promo and then you don't hear 503 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: nothing else that's done. Nah, I work too hard for this, yo. 504 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: I put my life on this. I put a half 505 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: a million into this thing on my own it has 506 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: to work. So we're gonna melt this, make it go, 507 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: make the music undeniable. You're not a messy artist. You're 508 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: not talking to somebody that's gonna talk about somebody like I know, bro, 509 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: Like I know I can get up here and have 510 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: three strippers and put a thousand dollars on each of 511 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: the ass and be like, it's up, what's up. Yeah, 512 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm single and it's gonna go viral, and then listen 513 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: to the breakup song about my woman. Then everybody listening 514 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: to I know, take that clip and say that you 515 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: wanted to be We're gonna cut that up, so go ahead, 516 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: go yeah, well you know what I mean. I know 517 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: I can do that. I know I can manipulate the 518 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: system because it's what it is. People like that type 519 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: of you. 520 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,959 Speaker 2: Have done that before, because I was looking at an 521 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 2: interview where you said it was Fitty's idea to say 522 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: that you owe him money to keep the momentimum. 523 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: Going yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. So Love with Them Loved 524 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: Them was number one at the time, and he was like, yo, bro, 525 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: honestly I got this idea, man, Like, Okay, I I left, 526 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: I got out. My deal with fifty was a deal 527 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: or it was a two album deal, but I had 528 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: one more and I said, bro, I want to do 529 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: this on my own. You know, I believe in this, 530 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: And why did you want to get out? Did you 531 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: feel like no? I think I think at the time 532 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: there was a lot he had just fired everybody, you know, 533 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: and so like there was a lot going on at 534 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: the time, and the show was so on fire that 535 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: it was like, there's no way that there could be 536 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: focused on what this is at this particular time, especially 537 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: because my character's going O d Lin crazy. Yeah what 538 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I'm like, let me just take myself 539 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: out of this because at the timing wasn't right to 540 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: be a focus. So I was like, let me just 541 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: bet on myself, you know what I mean. And thank 542 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: God for his his his his love for me and 543 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: his wisdom. He was like, look, I'll let you out, 544 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: but you know, mechanically, you owe me three hundred thousand 545 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: for the investment that I've put in there. So I 546 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: had to pay him back mechanically. So from the sales 547 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: of my project product is how he'll get paid back, 548 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: which is standard, you know what I mean. So like 549 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: I didn't have to give him three hundred thousand like this. 550 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: But over time, whatever records I do work with with 551 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: whoever I work with, next they get he gets that money. 552 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: So the record we put the song out, Love Rhythm 553 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: is number one R and B album, Going Crazy, and 554 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: he calls me. He's like, look, bro, I got this idea. 555 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I don't like you. I'm gonna say 556 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: I want to punch you in your nose. I'm gonna 557 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: tell you I don't I'm gonna rock with you what's 558 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: in there. But the thing I'm gonna do is I'm 559 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: gonna mention twenty five times that how can this nigga 560 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: not pay me when his album is number one? So 561 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: when he did that, the psychological psychology of people is like, 562 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: what am I missing? Wait? Rog got a number one album? 563 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: Where what's going on? And that's that's how it blew, 564 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that's Genie's marketing, definitely 565 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: thousand and his marketing, you know what I mean. So 566 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: it worked because he got his money back in like 567 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: four months, you know what I mean. So it works. 568 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: But at the same time, yes, I know I can 569 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: do those things, you know, And for me, I was 570 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: like though only way I can combat gimmicks and being 571 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: messy and things that just make undeniable product that lives forever. 572 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: You know. That's why in my heart, in my veins 573 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: feels like that man. And that's how I grew up. 574 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: Like being from Jersey, there was no cutting corners, there 575 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: was no you have to work for what you got, 576 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: you know. Being Nigerian either as well, I didn't cut corners, 577 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: you know. I did the little things, you know what 578 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: I mean. So that's what it was for me. I understand, 579 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: I understood very early, like the little things is will 580 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: keep you around the longevity. Where when was the last 581 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: time you go to your job and you shake everybody's hand, 582 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: you know, look everybody in the eye, remember everybody's name. 583 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: That changes the room, that changes the energy. When is 584 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: the last time you ask how are you? And genuinely listen? 585 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, so whenever i'm I 586 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: carried those things and those principles got me to where 587 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: I am. Along with everything else, but those things people remember, 588 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: you know. And so I was like, I'm not gonna 589 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: cut no corners, you know, let's do it. This is 590 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: who I am. I am in a relationship, I do that, kids. 591 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: I am fly, I do make great music. I am 592 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: an actor. Let's let's let's write about it and let's 593 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: talk about it and be pure about it. Now, an actor, 594 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: do you like being the villain? Because we've seen you 595 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: in the villain in power shows. We've seen you even 596 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: with joining Lucas, we see you as the villainy and 597 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: sometimes I don't like you know, the joint of Lucas 598 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: made me. I'm like, I don't like them. I have 599 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: to remember, I know, but it makes me not like them. 600 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: Like do you like playing the villain? Uh? Okay, yes, 601 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: but but in doses now you know what I mean? 602 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: Like when you play something like Dre Man, that's polarizing, bro, 603 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: and like, I know what that. If I was just 604 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: an actor, that would be the most amazing thing to 605 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: deal with being like, damn, bro, you killed that. But 606 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: I got a whole different other side, you know. So 607 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: it made music ten times harder, you know, you know, 608 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,959 Speaker 1: because how do you have you got the number one 609 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: shows a villain, but then you got a number one 610 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: record that's R and B in love. 611 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: So it's like you made me so man on how anyone. 612 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: Exactly? When it come on it's just like, you know 613 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So like that made it tougher, so 614 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: I had to get over. I had a conversation actually 615 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: with Tyres about it, like, bro, how do you do this? Man? 616 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: Like that was a long conversation. I bet y'all just 617 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: finished that shit. So I had a conversation with him. 618 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, like, how do you do this? Man? 619 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: It was lit how you explained to me. It was 620 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: just like, carry the vessel that's bringing you to where 621 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: you are. Just carry that, make people want to know 622 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: who that person is. Kill that to the point where yo, 623 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: who is this tray guy? And then be ready with 624 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: what you have. That's the only way you can do 625 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: both and be successful. So I took that and Jamie 626 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: actually said the same thing too, So it was like, oh, 627 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:51,479 Speaker 1: this is how y'all did it? 628 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: You know. 629 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: So when I got that information, it was body dre 630 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: and let people learn about ro Timmy, you know. And 631 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: So to answer your question about the the villain joining Lucas, 632 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: I told I said no twice, like I was like 633 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: really yeah, I was like no, that it was dope, 634 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: Like it's a dope changed. It was incredible, I said, finally, say, yes, 635 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: it was. It was a good money. I was like 636 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: the bad guy, right, you know, and I'm a fan 637 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: of his. But I didn't want to do videos like 638 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: I didn't want to and I wasn't to be a 639 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: video mixer. I didn't want to be exactly yeah, exactly, 640 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: I didn't you know what I'm saying. You know what 641 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I didn't want that. I didn't want that 642 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: because I had been so quiet musically for a while. 643 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: I want the first thing that people see is that 644 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: like always doing videos now, Like I didn't perception, you know. 645 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: But the bread was amazing. Then I actually heard the 646 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: record as well, and I was like, oh, this is 647 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: like a one man show, a straight monologue that I 648 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: gotta really study because it is about It was about 649 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: fifteen twenty pages of transcribed lyrics, and I got to 650 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,719 Speaker 1: match his whole energy and switch up, and I was like, Oh, 651 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: this is gonna be fun, you know, And I mean 652 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: I think we should have want to. Yeah. 653 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 2: Usually Joiners music videos are like motion pictures. 654 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: It's phenomenal drama series, it's phenomenal. Yeah. So, but but 655 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: at this point, I thank god for Lena wafe Man 656 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: because this new character that I'm playing on The Shy 657 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: is completely different, you know, And so now I'm seeking 658 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: roles that are completely the opposite way because there's so 659 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: much more to me. I can do that easy. That's 660 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: I grew up around a lot of dre's, you know 661 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: what I mean. I grew up around niggas like this 662 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: all the time. So for me, it's just like, let's 663 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: show the other aspects of Huro timmy is and all 664 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: the ranges that I have. So the newest character on 665 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: the Shy, and it's been amazing. Man, we filmed season seven. 666 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: I was only Again. This goes back to just being 667 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: a good person. Like I met Lena ten years ago 668 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: at Sundance. Me and John Boyega did a movie Imperial Dreams, 669 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: and she had won for Dear White People, and energy was, yo, 670 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: how are you. You're amazing, You're great, and she was 671 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: coming up, I'm coming up, and it was we just 672 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: stayed close and making sure she was good. We haven't 673 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: seen it. I still haven't seen Lena since twenty and fourteen. Still, 674 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: but every year I'm saying Happy Birthday, having this, sending gifts. 675 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: She's sending me kids for my kids, She's sending me 676 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: things for you know, Happy Father's Day, all this, so 677 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: we love. Then she finally calls like, y'all got a 678 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: roll for you if you want to come do an episode, 679 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: you know, an episode or two? Are you working right now? 680 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I'm not. She was like, all right, cool, 681 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: let's come to Chicago. Got something for you and two 682 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: you know again you gotta take to try to tell 683 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: my story but also give, you know, as much as 684 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: I can. Where I was only given two episodes, but 685 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: with those two episodes, I bodied it to the point 686 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: where it's like I want him for the whole season 687 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: and hopefully God will for beyond whenever. You know, But 688 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: every time you get an opportunity in any field, yo, 689 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: you don't know who's watching, You don't know what's going on, 690 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: you don't know what hand you just shook, you don't 691 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: know how you acted that person's life. You don't know 692 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: how far this could go. So maximize every opportunity you 693 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: can because they don't come often. And so when I 694 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: understood that, I realized, Okay, you know, this is how 695 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: you do it. But then also being a good person 696 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: and also maximizing the moment, you know, it always happens 697 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: Now people were mad at you because you said that 698 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: you brought afrobeats to America. You still stand by that absolutely, 699 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: but the way it was worded was crazy. Right. So 700 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: I was the first American Nigerian to bring afrobeats to 701 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: a place where Americans were able to digest it on radio. Right. 702 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: So for example, I was going to program directors and 703 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: plan love rhythm and being they were like, yo, I 704 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: don't even know how to what's the beat on rhythm? 705 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: On this? 706 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 2: This? 707 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: What is this? I was in those moments, so when 708 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: I started doing it, it became a oh, I like 709 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: this Also doesn't mean that there weren't people before that 710 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: were doing it, had moments, but because I am from here, 711 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: and because it's relatable, because mister Butterscott's was doing what 712 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: it needs, they're so like and what I'm saying is 713 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: digestible and understood like it felt inclusive. So it was 714 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: a pacifier to start the movement here, not necessarily them 715 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: bringing it Wiz and they were always lit. But in 716 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: terms of the timing, Whiz then had the record with Drake, 717 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: then the Veto came out, so it was all the 718 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: same time. But for me it was I remember going 719 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: to program directors. They didn't even know what it was, 720 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: and so now this record's going crazy. It becomes oh, 721 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: I like this, Oh that's what it was. Yeah, okay, 722 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: And then I came back with in my Bed, so 723 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: it was like, oh, I was the only one besides 724 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: really Chris Brown that's out here that's really doing it 725 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: where it feels like, oh, it's a bridge. So I 726 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: was definitely would say I was the bridge and that however, 727 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 1: the Burners and DAVIDO and Wiz and all them, Yes, 728 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: of course if affected the world. But I remember going 729 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: to those moments where they didn't hear the one dance, 730 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: yet they didn't hear the I gotta ask people were 731 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: upset with Chris Brown, right, were not upset with Chris 732 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: Brown the Academy because they were saying that Chris Brown 733 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: is an American artist and he shouldn't be in the 734 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: afrobeats category. What's your thoughts on that. I believe that 735 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 1: he definitely should. Music is music. Music is music, bro, 736 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: Like That's what I'm saying. We get so crazy with 737 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: this trying to box people into things like is it 738 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: an afrobeat record? Yes? Is he? Is it one of 739 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: the best afrobeat records. Yes, so yes, he should be 740 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: in the afrobeat category. 741 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,919 Speaker 2: And it goes the other way too, because last year 742 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 2: Tyler won a Grammy over Sexy Red right, So it's 743 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 2: like if we can you know what I'm saying, it's 744 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 2: just still like a brisk Like if afrobeats can win 745 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 2: over win in the category where it's just you know 746 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 2: what was that. I think it was like rap or 747 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 2: new Artists or something like that, why can't Chris Brown 748 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 2: win or even be nominated in the afrobeat. 749 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: No music has no bounds, man, that's what makes it 750 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: so beautiful. Like music has no that's saying, Yo, you 751 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: can't do this and you can't do that. Oh you 752 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: can't act and you can't sing. Oh you can't be 753 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: a host of a legendary show and then also be 754 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: a DJ. You can't do this and be like stupid. 755 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 1: Just no, I'm just dope, you know what I mean. 756 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: And so that's why for us it was like, let's 757 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: spoon feed the people. This is an R and B album, 758 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: this is an afro B album. If we win records 759 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: on this, then we win records. I mean, remember wars 760 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: on this. Then it's it's still the same project, but 761 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: you put it where you want to put it, you know, 762 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: And so that's how it was. But not definitely. Chris 763 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: Brown is one of the greatest I ever don it, bro, Like, 764 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: only few people can do it and be believed, and 765 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 1: I believe it, you know, and I feel like he's 766 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: the only other one for real. 767 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 2: What is your favorite song on the album? 768 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: Y'are honestly fam Like, We've constructed this album to be 769 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: where I can sit with you and figure out what 770 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: kind of music you love, and I'll be able to 771 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: tell you like these will work for you. I'll look 772 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 1: at you and be like, yo, Bro, well good bye, Okay, 773 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: these are your favorites. They're like my kids. I can't 774 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 1: I can't pick yeah as my favorite. But there's no single, 775 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: you know, everything is a single. So if you're like, bro, 776 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: I love I love classic R and B. I got 777 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: that for you. Like Yo, I love poppy Phil, I 778 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: got that for you all. I love hip hop drums, 779 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 1: I got that for you. So like it's whatever it is, 780 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: it's whoever I'm speaking to, I'll make We've tailor made 781 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 1: it that way. 782 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 2: The album is a candy store. 783 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: Yes, I got the album of the Year. I love 784 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: that I got the album of the year, he said it, 785 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: I got the album of the year, genuinely. Let's get 786 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: into a record off that album. The album is out today, Yes, sir, 787 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,720 Speaker 1: what do you want to get into today? 788 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 2: Let's get into something off the AfroB side side. 789 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: Oh when we just all right, let's start with h Yeah, 790 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 1: let's go what I wonder? I wonder? Yes, sir, let's 791 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: go without Dirty December. You can follow up close Dirty December. 792 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: There's almost dirty Say you choose rather, I wonder Dirty December? Yo, 793 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: your choice? Retter. All right, well, let's get into it 794 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: now before we leave. I also got to so Christmas 795 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: is around the corner, Yes, sir, you have two kids, yeah, 796 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: and a wife? So what do you do for Christmas time? Oh? Man? 797 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: Who this is again? Traditions do you have in the household? Well, 798 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: we're still figuring out the tradition. You know what. It's 799 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,879 Speaker 1: a new one, you know what I'm saying. So we're 800 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,919 Speaker 1: still forming it. So I personally like, honestly, man, she's 801 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: such an incredible human being that whatever she wants to do, 802 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: if she's like, babe, for Christmas, I want to travel 803 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 1: to I want to go home let's go to Tanzania. 804 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: She says, Babe, I want to just be a in 805 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: the crib and we all matching whatever if you want to. 806 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: Whatever she wants to do is there's the routine, bro like, 807 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 1: because she deserves that, Like I've I rip and run 808 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: too much for me to make every decision. So for her, 809 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: it's like my love, what you want and whatever you 810 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: want to do, that's the tradition. What's the so happy 811 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: for him? What's the dumbest thing you've done as a 812 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: husband or a father? When I mean dumb, Yeah, I'm 813 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: the dad. Like I dressed up in a ninja turtlesuit 814 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: for Halloween. All the kids school embarrassed the ish out 815 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: of a couple of years ago, I dressed up in 816 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: a baby outfit with a pamper. I embarrassed my kid. 817 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,879 Speaker 1: I love it, like my kid was like my dad. 818 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: But I just I try to create those memories that 819 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: you know when I'm long ago and they'd be like, yo, 820 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: you remember when dad came to school, and it's like 821 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: I try to think that, what's the dumbest thing that 822 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: you've done that you'd be like this takes my jersey 823 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: cool power away? Oh yeah, So me and my son 824 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: and my dad. We all matched and I had them 825 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: do a butterscotch, the butterscotch face, baby Butterscotch butterscotch and 826 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: the mini butterscotch. So like we all and they have 827 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: no idea what they just did. But in six years, 828 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: seven years, they're gonna look and be like Dad, you 829 00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: just like, wow, you are a dick head, bro, Why 830 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,439 Speaker 1: would you do this? It's forever, It's forever there. So yeah, 831 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: that's probably what I said. But let's get into the 832 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: joint right now. I wonder the album is out right now? 833 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: Of course it's a double album, In My Heart, in 834 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 1: My Veins R and B side, AFRO B side, and 835 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: we appreciate you for joining us, all right. And I 836 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 1: was just gonna say one last thing. Ro Timmy is 837 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: one of those artists that always call and check up 838 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: on you. Yeah, no matter what's going on in your life, 839 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: good or bad, ro Timmy will hit you just checking 840 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 1: up on bre you brother. I want to make sure 841 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: you good as your mental, how's your help, how's the family? 842 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: He always does that, So I just want to say, 843 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: appreciate that. 844 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 2: And I want to appreciate that too, because he's telling 845 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 2: me like I don't know, like you. My family check 846 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 2: up on me too, Like this is my friend, you know, I. 847 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:49,240 Speaker 1: Do know him. What's his real name. It's Roll Timmy. 848 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake that ass up 849 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: in the morning. The Breakfast Club.