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Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Happy Friday. Rookies and quarterbacks reporting Zagura and

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Speaker 2: Gibbe the Open Championship. Scheffler making a charge. A lot

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Speaker 2: going on, very exciting by the way. I saw that.

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Speaker 2: I think a couple of the rookie qbs were here.

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Speaker 3: I can tell you the first rookie in the building today, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I believe. I'm going to say it, Dylan Gabriel. Dylan

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Speaker 3: Gabriel is here early, here early. That doesn't mean that

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Speaker 3: there were not others, but I think the first QB

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Speaker 3: in the building today was Dylan Gabriel. Dylan Gabriel was there.

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Speaker 3: The rookies are reporting, there has been reporting. For those

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Speaker 3: who are wonderable, just get right to it. But those

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Speaker 3: who are wondering what it's going to be. As it

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Speaker 3: relates to quin Shawn Judkins, but that he is not

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Speaker 3: expected to report today that both he and the Browns

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Speaker 3: want him to focus on the off field issues that

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Speaker 3: he is currently having. So rookies quarterbacks here today, with

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Speaker 3: the exception of Quinjon Judkins who remains unsigned. Now we

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Speaker 3: did see that the pick in front of him, nick

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Speaker 3: Eman Worri, I think, as I said, his name right,

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Speaker 3: the safety who was picked right for him in second

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Speaker 3: round with Seattle, also signed a fully guaranteed contract. So

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Speaker 3: that's going to make things a little bit interesting, I

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Speaker 3: would say going forward. Yeah, I mean, due to the circumstances,

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Speaker 3: I would think that becomes a little bit more challenging.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: From his standpoint, I think that I would assume that

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Speaker 3: we would have the leverage here a little bit so,

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Speaker 3: But the second round picks in general have been fascinating

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Speaker 3: to watch, you know, with this whole contract stuff.

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Speaker 2: Well yea, because it's just never happened before.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, If I don't, I think it's

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Speaker 3: a very slippery slope because when do you stop when

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Speaker 3: are contracts not guaranteed? Yep, So like where's what's the cutoff?

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Speaker 2: I typically have been the first round and maybe sometimes

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Speaker 2: pick number thirty three. Yeah, that is it. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's going to be interesting. But again, as Mary Kay

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Speaker 2: Cabot reported earlier today and she said, and I'll just

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Speaker 2: quote her on it, but she said, Brown's running backquinch

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Speaker 2: On Jenkins remains unsigned and won't report to training camp

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Speaker 2: today to be with the rest of the rookies. He's

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Speaker 2: focusing more on his legal matter right now, and so

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Speaker 2: are the Browns. So that is and that's a misdemeanor

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Speaker 2: domestic violence charge in Florida. So yeah, if I'm Dylan Samson,

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Speaker 2: this is a heck of an opportunity. Let's not forget

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Speaker 2: Dylan Samson was the SEC Offensive Player of the Year

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Speaker 2: last year. This is gonna be an incredible opportunity for

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Speaker 2: him to get all this work. With qwen John Jenkins

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Speaker 2: not here and he and Jerome Ford Pierre Strong, it

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Speaker 2: gives him an opportunity once again to try to keep

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Speaker 2: himself here on the squad. So that's the big news today,

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Speaker 2: Guys in the building. I gotta tell you know what.

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Speaker 2: There's a guy that we talked about yesterday and I

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Speaker 2: you know, getting the respect that he deserved from you know,

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Speaker 2: some of the reporting around him and all of those things.

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Speaker 2: Is the number three cornerback in the league. He should

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Speaker 2: be an all pro all of that. But you know,

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Speaker 2: when you one thing that never gets talked about, he's

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Speaker 2: here all the time. He was here for all the

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Speaker 2: voluntary stuff. He was I just saw him in the cafe,

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Speaker 2: who had a nice conversation with him down in the cafe.

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Speaker 2: He's just become such a leader for this football team.

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Speaker 2: And he's not I don't know if he's the most

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Speaker 2: vocal guy about it, but in terms of being a

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Speaker 2: leader in you know, always here, in being a pro,

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Speaker 2: best of his craft. Two, he's leading by example and

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Speaker 2: I think that, you know, he is a tremendous example

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm it's awesome that he's doing that. I think

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Speaker 2: Told me he's so excited for the season and to

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Speaker 2: and I think that's something that you know, he should

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Speaker 2: it out for that. So that's what I'm doing. You should.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited to see what he can do this year again,

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Speaker 3: you know what he's capable of.

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Speaker 2: Yah? Can we can we.

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Speaker 3: Turn the passes to f into turnovers?

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's the only guy in the league history

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Speaker 2: who's had at least two interceptions and ten or more

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Speaker 2: doing it to start their career. So and he's the

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Speaker 2: only one who's done it period, whether it's start of

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Speaker 2: his career or not. Since he's been in the league,

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Speaker 2: he's at least two picks every year, at least ten

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Speaker 3: And it's not just him, I mean, it's the whole defense.

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Speaker 3: How do we create turnout? We're going to have to

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Speaker 3: put this offense in advantageous positions.

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Speaker 2: No, you're not wrong about that, not wrong about that.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll give you some quick some updates from

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Speaker 2: the open. It looked a little bit dicey there on

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Speaker 2: the weather for a second.

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Speaker 3: But can we move the open to like Spain? But

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Speaker 3: we're somewhere where it's us.

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Speaker 2: It's part of it. What's cool, dude, It's the Open,

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Speaker 3: The weather situation is just and then like you make

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Speaker 2: Whose group was that?

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Speaker 3: Oh it was Tommy Fleetwood and he was trying to

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Speaker 3: figure out where he could drop because it was right

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Speaker 2: The middle of thee it's in the middle of the fescue. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But the other two guys that are out there with him,

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Speaker 3: I think it was Justin Thomas and it was oh,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was Rory.

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Speaker 3: Like they're standing there now they have made it the

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Speaker 3: the eighteenth hole pouring and this conversation with Fleetwood literally

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Speaker 2: They didn't seem like they were really in a hurry

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Speaker 2: at that moment, which was funny. But we got a

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Speaker 2: new leader right now, Matt Fitzpatrick, the former US Open champion.

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Speaker 2: He's in the lead at nine under. He's through twelve

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Speaker 2: conditions are just a little bit easier today. We're seeing

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Speaker 2: he's right there. Then you've got Robert McIntyre five under,

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Speaker 2: Tony Feen. Now where you being out a nice day?

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Speaker 2: He's four under. Leads a group there that includes as

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Speaker 2: well Hoguard, Nicolay Hogard brothers, both of them in the

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Speaker 2: top ten and the open. That's crazy. Chris got her up,

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Speaker 2: Christopher Retan, Matthew Jordan and then Keegan Bradley leads the

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Speaker 2: group at three under that includes Rory McElroy. So that's

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Speaker 2: where the field is right there. Justin Rose should be

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Speaker 2: really closer to the top of the leaderboard. He's two under,

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Speaker 2: but he blew I think five shots on two holes,

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Speaker 2: which was stunning to watch him do that. But that's

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Speaker 2: where's it's send for two I know, but he hasn't

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Speaker 2: been able to through fifteen even today. Two hunder will

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Speaker 2: him to be. I want him to be winning. JJ Spond,

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Speaker 2: the US Open champion, is also at two under. Shane

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Speaker 3: How about the round d Chambeau had today.

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Speaker 2: By the way, So that's what you want to talk about,

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Speaker 2: just how crazy golf is. So Bryce and d Chambeau

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Speaker 2: in round one shot a seventy eight, which was I'm

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Speaker 2: looking see if anybody I see a couple other seventy eights.

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Speaker 3: Not many others. That's like me shooting one hundred.

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Speaker 2: So there's a guy named Curtis Luck, actually kind of

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Speaker 2: normal for me. There's a guy named Curtis Luck that

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Speaker 2: shot eighty and then a Mackenzie Hughes that shot seventy nine,

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Speaker 2: and then Tom Hogy. Tom Hogy shot eighty one. kJ

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Speaker 2: Choy shot eighty one, and an amateur Brian Newman shot

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Speaker 2: eighty two, but seventy eight one of the high scores

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Speaker 2: of the first round. And then he comes back the

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Speaker 2: next day and shoots sixty five on the same golf course.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen stroke difference one day to the other is incredible.

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Speaker 2: And now he's gonna he's gonna make the cut. Projected

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Speaker 2: cut right now is two over.

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Speaker 3: Correct, two over. I think Michelson's gonna make it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: mcle Will's put together two nice rounds. Yep, he looks like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he was even. He was one over today, one under yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Speith is also right there in the middle as well.

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Speaker 2: And that's where we're at.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I love watching morning golf. Like we talked

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Speaker 3: about who all right, so you had a phone call.

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Speaker 3: I didn't get a chance to ask, well, who has

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Speaker 3: fallen farther since their one year of amazingness? Dustin Johnson

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Speaker 2: I think Dustin Johnson might have had a little bit

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Speaker 2: them up. But Morikawa he's just yeah, he's definitely there's

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Speaker 3: I mean, he had that great twenty and twenty one

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Speaker 3: COVID years. Didn't he win in San Francisco?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he won the PGA Championship, and he's won the

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Speaker 2: at the Masters in twenty twenty four. Let's see if

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Speaker 2: they have a list of his career wins. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: he's won he won in nineteen, he won twice in

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Speaker 2: twenty twice in twenty one. He won in twenty three

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Speaker 2: as well, and then as we said, he won the

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Speaker 2: Open Championship in twenty one over Jordan Speith, and he

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Speaker 2: won the PGA Championship that was the one out in

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Speaker 2: California over Paul Casey and Dustin Johnson. So like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's not been obviously, he hasn't won a tournaments in

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Speaker 2: a little while since twenty three.

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Speaker 3: He has just not played great golf.

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Speaker 2: No, Dustin Johnson, I think had a longer run of goodness.

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Speaker 2: Dustin Johnson twenty four wins on the PGA Tour. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Dustin Johnson much better.

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Speaker 3: No, but I'm talking about like after like after his

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Speaker 3: Master's win.

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Speaker 2: What's he done Johnson since twenty Yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 2: he's done anything. Now.

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Speaker 3: He's on the Live Tour, so we don't know what

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Speaker 3: all that looks like.

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Speaker 2: He's won on the European Tour, He's won three times

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Speaker 2: on the Live Tour since then. So he Yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: just he's just playing a different He's kind of just

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Speaker 2: playing a different schedule now, is really what it is.

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Speaker 2: Although if you look at it, twenty twenty one. He

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Speaker 2: missed the cut at the Masters. He's only made the

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Speaker 2: It's Miles Chasing.

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Speaker 3: Sure, at thirty two point five million a year.

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Speaker 2: To pay him? No, I think he's going to get

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think t J. Watt will be just

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Speaker 2: So if you're all in, you one hundred percent are

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Speaker 3: Well, and then you go out, you get you make

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you do that, you get t J. Watt, you

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Speaker 2: It's either good. They're either going to be really good

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen people do like the cold Play

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Speaker 3: So I mean TJ. Watts never won a playoff game?

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Speaker 2: Yes, say damp made the playoffs. Have not won a

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Speaker 2: The last year that the Steelers won a game in

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Speaker 2: they lost to the Jags forty five forty two in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: In eighteen, they did not make the playoffs. In nineteen

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Speaker 2: they did not make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: They had winning records the whole time, or.

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Speaker 2: At least not losing. They were nine to six and

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Speaker 2: and sixteen. Some news in the state of Ohio on Thursday,

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Speaker 2: the Ohio School Athletic Association OSHA announced is it osa

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Speaker 2: It can't be OSHA, no, but I always I feel

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Speaker 2: Announced that they've sanctioned girls high school flag football in

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Speaker 2: the state of Ohio, making Ohio the seventeenth state to

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Speaker 2: working towards the sanctioning of girls flag football and Ohio.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Sefanski Brown said coach was there for the announcement

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Speaker 2: sanctioned girls flag football Ohio is an important moment, not

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Speaker 2: just for the Browns, but for the entire state of

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Speaker 2: Ohio and the game we love. We have seen firsthand

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Speaker 2: and community, and we are proud that more young women

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Speaker 2: but it wouldn't have been possible without the continuous work

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Speaker 2: bringing this to life as we continue to grow the

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Speaker 2: game for girls across the state.

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Speaker 3: Thankyfrey O Munjos talked after coach. Really, it was like,

436
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Speaker 3: there's a lot of Bengals fans here and a lot

437
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Speaker 3: of Bengals, so give me a hoo day. And I

438
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Speaker 3: was like, you can go back to Northern Kentucky, pal,

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Speaker 3: I don't care if you got a yellow jacket the

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Speaker 3: hell out of here with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was only one left tackle day. There's only

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Speaker 2: one left tackle we care about up here is named

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Speaker 2: off exactly.

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Speaker 3: But no, it's an awesome day, you know. I mean

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Speaker 3: I told my I told my youngest daughter, who's out

446
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Speaker 3: of high school now and in college, and she was like,

447
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 3: why couldn't you get this done earlier? She looked at me.

448
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Speaker 3: I was like, I did, I had nothing to do

449
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Speaker 3: with this. Yeah, but she's like, I would have played.

450
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Speaker 3: That would have been awesome. I would have loved every

451
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Speaker 3: minute of that. So I'm very excited I think it's

452
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Speaker 3: gonna be great. This organization has done a great job

453
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Speaker 3: of getting behind it. Coach Stefanski has been one of

454
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Speaker 3: the biggest cheerleaders for it. Yeah, so I know Greg

455
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Speaker 3: Newsom's an ambassador for it. I just it's it's very,

456
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 3: very cool. All the hard work Jenner ta Kansk and

457
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Speaker 3: her staff handle Yeah, have done behind the scenes to

458
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Speaker 3: grow this and get to get it to this point.

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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be great. I did. I love it.

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Speaker 3: I think it's it's good for the sport. It's good

461
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Speaker 3: for it's good for the ladies that want to play football.

462
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great.

463
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Speaker 4: What it is.

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Speaker 2: Get the opportunity. Let's go, let's go. All right. When

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Speaker 2: we come back, we're gonna go through the thirty two

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Speaker 2: head coaches ranked in the NFL ahead of the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five season, divided into three tiers by CBS Sports

468
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Speaker 2: Cody Benjamin. Coming up, we got around the sports rore

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Speaker 2: a little mailbag, some leftovers from yesterday if people want

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Speaker 2: to keep. We also have an AIW Absolution preview. That's right.

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Speaker 2: Absolution is tonight. It will be my first time back

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Speaker 2: at AIW since I last year at Absolution alongside of

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Speaker 2: the great Tom Lawler, Josh Bishop, and Sam Holloway defeated

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Speaker 2: Jeff Jarrett, the Hall of Famer. We just celebrated a

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Speaker 2: birthday recently, real text exchange on his birthday, the giant

476
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Speaker 2: Sattanham Singh seven foot four, and of course members Dabroni's

477
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Speaker 2: right want to no baby. This was my first time back,

478
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Speaker 2: though every every time they had a show I was

479
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Speaker 2: out of town for some reason, from basically like the

480
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Speaker 2: last year or we went to We're in football season obviously,

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Speaker 2: so I'm very excited to be back tonight. I'm calling

482
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Speaker 2: the main event. Eric Taylor, who I tabbed is the

483
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Speaker 2: future of the company, said he's like a young Shawn Michaels.

484
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Speaker 2: He is in the main event defending his championship against

485
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Speaker 2: Chuck stone who's kind of like Stone Cold. He's got that,

486
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Speaker 2: he's popular. Eric betrayed him. They've been best friends in

487
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Speaker 2: real life since their kids, and this is gonna be

488
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Speaker 2: the culmination of their feuds. So that's gonna be a

489
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Speaker 2: big one. I'm very excited about that. And then Maserati

490
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Speaker 2: Wes Barkley Isaiah Broner for the intense title tonight. That'll

491
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Speaker 2: be good PM defending these well.

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Speaker 3: I saw I saw the announcement that you were returning

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Speaker 3: my return, and a lot of people like, are you wrestling, No,

494
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Speaker 3: not wrestling, just there're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna do a little man led that charge. Yeah, to

496
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Speaker 2: see you a little commentary. Never say never in this business.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm you know, feel like if your

498
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Speaker 2: wife might say otherwise, I'd like Luca to see me

499
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Speaker 2: wrestle once. I don't think your wife's signing up for that.

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Speaker 2: I think she's we We've been there, We've done that.

501
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: It's on video. You can show the boy later on

502
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Speaker 2: in life. Oh, he's already watched it. He's a big fan.

503
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 2: He's seen that. He's seen the uh the Blue Angels.

504
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: And then this morning I did actually an interview on

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Speaker 2: a O Pedman show. The Pedman wasn't on with him

506
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Speaker 2: on my chest watching the open and he was great.

507
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Speaker 2: Didn't make it, didn't even make a noise. It was fantastic.

508
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Speaker 2: It's a smart boy. He's good the good boy. He

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Speaker 2: gets it, he gets understands what's going on. Oh man,

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Speaker 2: I just saw the worst Cold Play meme I've ever seen.

511
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Speaker 2: Right now, I.

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Speaker 3: Unbelieve by the way I thought that might die down.

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Speaker 2: Not. I mean it is something to become the biggest

514
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Speaker 2: story in humanity when there's a lot going on right

515
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Speaker 2: now that are quite big stories. It's pretty incredible.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, uh yeah, it's just and it seems like

517
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Speaker 3: someone we've gone through some of the uh some of

518
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Speaker 3: the better ones we've in the last couple of days.

519
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Speaker 3: But I mean it's pretty it's not great like you

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Speaker 3: just I mean, obviously this is uh, this is affecting

521
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Speaker 3: two families pretty drastically. Yes, uh, yeah it I don't

522
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Speaker 3: know if the statement from the guy that wasn't real

523
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Speaker 3: no that no, it has to be an AI generate.

524
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Speaker 2: That's nothing. Nothing is real. Nothing's real on social media.

525
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: This is actually real, but nothing is real. Yes, keep

526
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Speaker 2: that in your mind. All right. We'll come back, take

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Speaker 2: a look at the coach rankings and our number two.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna hear from a Jeremy Fowler as well. We

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Speaker 2: got more guessing for the people, which I know they

530
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Speaker 2: love as well. We're going to finish out our all

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Speaker 2: century team with the first twenty five years with that roster.

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Speaker 2: We got to get our specialists in there. And then

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Speaker 2: Sam Monson recapping the Browns draft and free agency. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna have that for you, kind of just set things

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Speaker 2: up as we get ready for training camp next week.

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Speaker 2: got right now. CBS Sports Cody Benjamin ranking all thirty

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Speaker 2: two head coaches in the nf L ahead of the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five season. They're divided into three tiers.

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Speaker 3: What are the tiers? So there are three tiers? Knowing

552
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: full well, these men have a chance to write or

553
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Speaker 3: rewrite their own true stories when the games begin this year.

554
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Speaker 3: Tier three is unproven or underwhelming. Scrolling down, scrolling down,

555
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Speaker 3: where's the next tier? Tier two are serviceable veterans?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

557
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 3: And Tier one is the cream.

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Speaker 2: Of the crop serviceable? That's Tier one is cream of

559
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: the crop. All right? How many people in tier one?

560
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Speaker 3: In Tier one? There are twelve the dirty dozen?

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Speaker 2: Alright, twelve twelve, Andy Reid ken McVeigh, This part stinks.

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Speaker 3: We should have printed this. Yeah reading it my bed,

563
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Speaker 3: my rock, my sincere apologies.

564
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Speaker 2: And you read I didn't look at it, but Andy

565
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Speaker 2: Reid McVeigh.

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Speaker 3: Kyle Kyle is number seven.

567
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Speaker 2: Dan, I don't care about numbers. I just want to

568
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Speaker 2: get him the tears. Dan Campbell, Yes. Sean Payton, I no,

569
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Speaker 2: so he's in the service. Oh no, Sean Payton is eleven.

570
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah so Sean Payne Yeah. Uh harba uh which harbor?

571
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:55,479
Speaker 2: John yes, McDermott, yes, Sirianni Yes, let me say four more? Oh,

572
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Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell yes, o connell lafleur, Yes. I don't think

573
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Speaker 2: they would put Todd Bowles in here. Stefanski No, No,

574
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Speaker 2: so he's in serviceable vets yes, came coach of the year.

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Speaker 3: Yep, he is number thirteen, just on the outside.

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Speaker 2: Okay, give me the give me like conference or division.

577
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Speaker 3: Two of them left. They're both in the AFC. One

578
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Speaker 3: is in the West and one is in our division.

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Speaker 2: Other Harbor. Yep, Tomlin, there you go. Yeah, all right,

580
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Speaker 2: that wasn't too hard.

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Speaker 3: So Reid is one McVeigh two, John Harbaugh number three, Yep,

582
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Speaker 3: high or lower?

583
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Speaker 2: Just right. For Harbaugh, we'll do a special. I think

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Speaker 2: that I I would probably put him a little lower.

585
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Speaker 2: I think Dan Campbell, I mean, he's just so good.

586
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: These guys are. They're the cream of the crop, cream

587
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 2: of the crop. Kyle would be way up there for me.

588
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: Harbor would be way up there. I mean, just won

589
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: the super Bowl. He's got to be up there.

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00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 3: I get Sirianni, he's got to be up there because

591
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 3: he won the Super Bowl. Kevin o'conf I if I

592
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: need a coach to win one game on this first page,

593
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Speaker 3: which is Reid McVeigh, Harbaugh, Sirianni Campbell, Harbaugh, and Shanahan,

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Speaker 3: which one am I leaving out? Say again, so there's

595
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Speaker 3: these seven guys, Reid McVeigh, both Harbaugh's, Sirianni Campbell, and Shanahan.

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Speaker 3: What's the one I don't want if I have to

597
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Speaker 3: win one game.

598
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Speaker 2: This is probably gonna sound weird to you, but it

599
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Speaker 2: would probably come down between heart, John Harbaugh and Dan Campbell.

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Speaker 2: I'm not in Dan Campbell for me, and the reason

601
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Speaker 2: is they're like in the Motivator, Jim Harby. I don't

602
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Speaker 2: know how much involved he is it with the offense,

603
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Speaker 2: but you want like Reid's doing the game plan, mcvay's

604
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: doing the game plan. Shannahan's doing the game plan, Sirian,

605
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: he's doing the game plan like you want those guys.

606
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Speaker 2: I think in that one game situation, like Campbell unbelievable leader,

607
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: man Harbaugh is as well, but he's not like running

608
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Speaker 2: He's not the game plan guy.

609
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Speaker 3: Like you would constantly. You would not have John Harbaugh

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Speaker 3: be one of.

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Speaker 2: The He's in there, but you're saying, like, who, if

612
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Speaker 2: I might the seven guys, which one do you not

613
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Speaker 2: want if you have to win one game? I don't

614
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Speaker 2: now I want all of them. I would probably say

615
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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh would be the one that I would put

616
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Speaker 2: on the outs, okay, and I would keep John Campbell

617
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Speaker 2: in all right, But my first four choices from this

618
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 2: list would be Reid McVeigh, Shanahan, and Sirianni because they're

619
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Speaker 2: one involved with the they're doing the game plan.

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Speaker 3: Uh So Shanahan is seventh. Yep, Matt Lafleur is eighth,

621
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Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell is ninth. High or lower just right. For O'Connell, I.

622
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Speaker 2: Think he's probably higher, honestly, I mean, if they do

623
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Speaker 2: it again this year, you see every ever they were

624
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Speaker 2: great with Sam Darnold, great with Cousins. Now you've got

625
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: an opportunity here with you know, see what he can

626
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Speaker 2: do with JJ McCarthy. But yes, absolutely, Okay, Tomlin is ten.

627
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Speaker 2: Of all the of the twelve coaches, the one that

628
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Speaker 2: doesn't belong in my opinion is Peyton does not belong. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you can say that, man.

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Speaker 3: If I'm basing it on, I can't even do that

631
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Speaker 3: because I just killed my own argument.

632
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Speaker 2: I was gonna say Key quarterback took him straight to

633
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 2: the playoffs, He's won a Super Bowl.

634
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 3: Tomlin's never had a losing record. Gross pains me, No.

635
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: But he's again see again, Peyton to me, is more

636
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 2: involved in the game land than Tomlin is. Tomlin's again

637
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: a great leader of men, like there should be that

638
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: should be the category should be like the leaders of men.

639
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 2: The you know, if you're really breaking it down, like

640
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: the elite leaders of men, and that's going to be Campbell, Harbaugh,

641
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: probably both, Tomlin. You know that's a different style coach

642
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 2: than than a Reed McVeigh, Shanahan, Siriani.

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Speaker 3: I would flip flop, all right, we make the argument

644
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 3: for Peyton. I would take McDermott at twelve and flip

645
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 3: him with Lafloor.

646
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 2: Moving who up?

647
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,479
Speaker 3: I would flip. I would move McDermott up to eight

648
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 3: and la Floor to twelve. I think will Floor of

649
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 3: the of these twelve guys, he could be number twelve.

650
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 3: Who's number twelve on your list?

651
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: I mean Jim Harbaugh for sure, not sixth, Like no, no,

652
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 2: that's very early for him. I mean this week you

653
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 2: get Lafloor's record as a head coach in the NFL

654
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 2: is sixty seven and thirty three, sixty seven and thirty three.

655
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 3: Well he won, like did they go like fifteen and

656
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 3: one or fourteen to two for like two or three

657
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 3: straight regular seasons.

658
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh's records fifty five and twenty five and one

659
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: and he's been pretty darn good too. Yeah. Laflor's records

660
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: thirteen and three, thirteen and three, thirteen and four, eight, nine,

661
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,479
Speaker 2: nine and eight, eleven and six.

662
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 3: Maybe Tomlin's twelve.

663
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 2: Tomlin would be based on like recent recent win well,

664
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 2: I mean that's only recent. I mean Tomlin's very very good.

665
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: All those one percentage is lower. But he hasn't had

666
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: a winning percentage of sixty percent or more. He's had

667
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: a sixty percent or better winning percentage in a season

668
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: once once. That was twenty twenty. Once since twenty seventeen,

669
00:35:59,000 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: only once.

670
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 3: So that's the that's the dirty dozen. And then you've

671
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 3: got serviceable veterans Tier two.

672
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: Tomlin eight and eleven in the playoffs in his career.

673
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 3: That's maybe he's the twelfth. Maybe he should be number twelve,

674
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 3: he'd be twelve, and then and then you put Jim

675
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: Harball eleven, sure, okay, and then figure it out from there.

676
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 2: Uh. Stefanski is thirteen, Yep, Bowls is going to be

677
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 2: right there somewhere, number nineteen. Demech O Ryan's is going

678
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 2: to be in there somewhere.

679
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 3: He's fifteen, Yeah, dan Quinn fourteen, dan Quinn sure, Mike

680
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 3: Vrabel sixteen. Yeah, Pete Carroll seventeen, Zach Taylor eighteen. Are

681
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 3: we sure about that?

682
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: I'm not sure about that. I don't know. No, I'm

683
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 2: not sure about that. Mike McDaniel is twentieth. He would

684
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 2: have been in the top twelve a couple of years ago.

685
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 2: He was eleventh last year. Yeah exactly.

686
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 3: Is that a make or break year for him?

687
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? There, it feels like that whole kind of operation

688
00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: is hanged. Peter Ounce, Yeah, I think it really does.

689
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: I might have Rabel. I might well.

690
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 3: Quinn's coming off the year that he had, so I

691
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 3: get it, and Rabel's, you know, Vrabel's been out.

692
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: For a year. I don't know. Are we sure Zach

693
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 2: Taylor is as good as everybody thinks? All about that?

694
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 4: Uh?

695
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: Tier three the unproven or underwhelming. And his comment is,

696
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: as long as these coaches are employed, they have a

697
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 3: chance to redeem themselves. As we stand, however, they've either

698
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 3: yet to prove their staying power or struggled to build

699
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 3: a promising program.

700
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: This is to be all the new coaches.

701
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 3: I disagree with Number twenty one Mike McDonald in Seattle. Yeah,

702
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 3: i'd see it's ten and seven.

703
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: Last year. Yeah, but I don't think he's ready to

704
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 2: say he's a I think if he does it for

705
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: another year, then he goes up pretty easily. Yeah. Stich

706
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: In is twenty two. Yeah, Canalis canals from Carolina.

707
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 3: A nice will run at the end.

708
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: That it's gonna be Liam Cohen.

709
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 3: I mean, Ben Johnson is the one to.

710
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 2: Watch, Ben Johnson.

711
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 3: Where's Rahee Morris twenty seven?

712
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: Yea not great, but Falcons not great with ten months?

713
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,959
Speaker 3: No, Aaron Glenn, I mean the new ones are all

714
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 3: at the.

715
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: End, it's all the new ones. I think Aaron Glen

716
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: day Ball's thirtieth. No love, no love, Yeah, no love

717
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 2: at all, No love at all. All right. Quick update

718
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: from the Open. Matt Fitzpatrick now up two shots. He

719
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: is ten under par. That's pretty darn good. Mat Fitzpatrick,

720
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: pull him up real fast. That seems to be so.

721
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: He won obviously a US Open, won the US Open.

722
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 2: He's got ten professional wins, two on the PGA Tour,

723
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: nine on the European Tour. He is he won the

724
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: US Open in twenty two. Twenty two. Is best finish

725
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: in the Open Championship is a tie for twentieth back

726
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen. He just came.

727
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 3: He just bogi, So he's back to nine. Yeah, yep,

728
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 3: threw up a five on a par four fourteen.

729
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 2: All right, so it's still but still he's in the

730
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: lead by one.

731
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean it's him and Harmony. He's

732
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 3: still on the field, Harmon. There's a couple of Scheffler.

733
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: Scheffler still seven under everybody else, And it's interesting most

734
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: of the guys on this list had played already. The

735
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: teisitions were much easiest. Morning Lee Westwood got it to

736
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 2: three under at a boy leave Westwood sixty nine and

737
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 2: then a set followed it backed up with the seventy. Yeah.

738
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 2: The only guys in near the top that are still

739
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 2: out on the course right now are Christopher Retan from Norway.

740
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: He is four four on fifteen. Matthew Jordan is even

741
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: today through sixteen, Scheffler four day through eleven, and Fitzpatrick

742
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: five hundre through fourteen, struggling, Yeah, Ron even today, Shane

743
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: Lowry even today. It's much they're playing in much tougher conditions,

744
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: much tougher conditions. You're not seeing anybody. What's great about

745
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: this is on the weekend, like on Sunday, they'll probably

746
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,959
Speaker 2: be done by like two three.

747
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what that's usually how it goes. Yeah, yeah,

748
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: I think it's interesting. I mean, Xander Schaffy Evening just

749
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 3: can't can't get it going through eleven. He's on the

750
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 3: twelfth now, all.

751
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 2: Right, so there it is. All right. When we come back,

752
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 2: we're gonna go a little bit around. We'll take some questions,

753
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: take some questions from the mail back as we wrap

754
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,160
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766
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 2: any those drum sticks? Today?

767
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 3: I did not I ate the sticky meatballs. Those are great,

768
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 3: were fantastic me.

769
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 2: Balls are good. Drum sticks, b ROSSI was making fun

770
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: of me because I had two drum sticks, a chicken breast,

771
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: and I think four meatballs, and he thought that was

772
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: what we talked about that.

773
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: We talked about this your diet and how you approached

774
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: the inn min fasting and I'm hungry. You gotta go

775
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 3: protein heavy, protein.

776
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: Heavy, throw a little bit of grain in their little

777
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: rice in there. But yeah, that's how we do. Is

778
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 2: it all right? You said you had some uh, we'll

779
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 2: go around sports real quick, and then you said you

780
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: had some things for us. We've given you the updates

781
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: on the Open Championship. Nothing, unfortunately, has changed since then.

782
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 2: Barstool Sports CEO Dave Portnoy Nunce Company is partnering with

783
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: Fox Sports. This is big, so we saw all those

784
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: shows get canceled. The breakfast Ball facility and speak for this.

785
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: Portnoy will be an analyst on Fox's Big Noon kickoff

786
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: and and Big Cat Cats will make some appearances on

787
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: the show. Bars will have a new daily morning show

788
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: on FS one from eight to ten am. The content

789
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 2: of that show was still to be determined that'll be interesting.

790
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: They've tried to take barstool to network before, did not work. Well. No,

791
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: they have a huge following. I like a lot of

792
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 2: their stuff, big fan of Big Cats.

793
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 3: So well, that maybe involve Gruden a little more.

794
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: You would think, so, right, yeah, you would think so, yeah,

795
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see. Definitely interest thing.

796
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I I am excited for and I'm

797
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 3: an Ohio State guy route for Ohio State. But having

798
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 3: a villain like Portnoy from Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan like,

799
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: because there's not a whole lot that goes on that

800
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 3: pregame show when they're live from Columbus or from ann Arbor.

801
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 3: Now with Portnoy versus Urban, I mean, let's.

802
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 5: Go, I know, versus that team.

803
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 2: I don't even know what that means.

804
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 5: What is Urban seven and zero against that team? Oh yeah,

805
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 5: So Portnoy's gotten no room to talk and I don't

806
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 5: want anything to do with that.

807
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 3: I love it. I'm here for all of it. I mean,

808
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 3: I want to be entertained on Saturday morning. It's a rivalry, like,

809
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 3: let's go.

810
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: Michigan hasn't loss.

811
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 3: And I don't think we actually have to travel this

812
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 3: year they we actually get to we get to we

813
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 3: get to say.

814
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 2: Like that's like saying like the when Brown said, Jim Brown,

815
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: they won a lot of championships.

816
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 5: I mean yeah, but Portner can't say anything to him

817
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 5: because he beat them every single year that he was there,

818
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 5: so he can't say anthing.

819
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 2: To Urban Calm Dally very angry.

820
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 4: That was all.

821
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 5: Relax, brother, I'm all out on that game day all

822
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 5: day for me.

823
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: I like both. I like to dabble in both. Why

824
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: would you say the back and forth?

825
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 5: It's not going to be back and forth that's entertaining.

826
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 5: It's going to be it's not gonna be scintillating television.

827
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 5: That's for sure.

828
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: We'll see. I'm not a barsool guy. If you can

829
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 2: tell sorry about it?

830
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: keV uh from Bobby?

831
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: How Bobby? Yesterday?

832
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 3: I told Bobby, I go, hey, sad to miss the mailbag,

833
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 3: gonna lock in for the season. I said, send me

834
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 3: some questions. We'll get to him. Still got time? How

835
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 3: was bgs you Gibbs not defending his guide to Marius

836
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 3: Randall back in his run with Cleveland. Gibbey was ready

837
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 3: to put him on the All Browns team. I needn't

838
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 3: know how Gibby isn't backing his guy.

839
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 2: False. I like that. I like that. Good. Yes, why

840
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: aren't you backing her? Fake news? Bobby? Why aren't you

841
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 2: backing your guy? I had nothing to do with that,

842
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 2: and we know that. Okay, you know that. I know that. True.

843
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: Fair enough, There you go. I don't really have any

844
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: other things right now. It's quiet. All's quiet. That's it.

845
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 2: Have we tell you said you had some mailbags?

846
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 3: I thought I did. I thought I did. I'm not

847
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 3: seeing them though. They're not popping up in my my

848
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 3: little ditty here. Yeah, I don't have I don't have

849
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 3: anything else right now.

850
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: It's all right.

851
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 3: We got time like in hour two. I I haven't argued.

852
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 3: We're going to talk specialist for the All quarter Century team,

853
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 3: just so we're clear. I I'm ready to come at

854
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 3: you with some things. What do you mean, well, you

855
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 3: want to put like two punters on?

856
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: No, we changed that yesterday. We put because we put

857
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: five safeties on. We'll have room for three. We only

858
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: have room for three people now, which is going to

859
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 2: be a longtime. There's lots of options and the kicker.

860
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 3: There are more options than you think for the punter

861
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 3: position and I love the great coal, but I'm just

862
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 3: saying there are other options.

863
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 2: Of course, are Corey Morcis has been awesome, holds a

864
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: lot of records, gets Acidil. Yeah, there's a ton of

865
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 2: great guys, yes, Andy Lee, Andy Lee and great golfer.

866
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe on the Mount rushmore of players that golf.

867
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 2: I mean, Noah, it's been Spencer Lanning.

868
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 3: Lanning simply because he got trucked in Pittsburgh. No, not

869
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 3: because he's a great guy. I love Spencer Landing. Wasn't

870
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 3: he was he at the Hoffs party? He was at

871
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 3: the hostage. Okay, I thought that. I thought that that

872
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Speaker 3: actually happened.

873
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, this is this one is gonna

874
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Speaker 2: be this is it's our list. It's our list. I

875
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 2: wanted to do two punters. But if we're only gonna

876
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 2: do one, I think you know where I'm gonna go. Yeah,

877
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 2: I get it. There's no reason not to.

878
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Speaker 3: All Right, Well, it's fine our one of the books.

879
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Speaker 3: We'll take more of your questions at Brown's Underscore Daily

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Speaker 2: Look there's they're showing Luke Flory arrive. The Browns are

882
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Speaker 2: sweet down. If you looked in the background at the

883
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Speaker 2: very beginning of the video. Who was there, Denzel Ward?

884
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Speaker 2: So I'm talking about guys everywhere. He's ready to go.

885
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Speaker 2: I love it.

886
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Speaker 3: I don't know if Jordan jam did you send me some.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you did some left doors. This

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Speaker 3: is riveting radio. We got going on.

890
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: Yes, good job, give back, all right, this is what

891
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 2: we're gonna do. We're gonna take raak, We're gonna come back.

892
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be our number two. We'll get questions, feel

893
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: free to hit us up. We're gonna go through the

894
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: top ten defensive ends, top ten tight ends in the

895
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Speaker 2: league as well. I feel like I'll be pretty good

896
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: at both of those. And uh, that's what we're gonna do.

897
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 2: And we're gonna get Sam monson talking about the Browns offseason,

898
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 2: setting you up, getting ready for their return, because when

899
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 2: we come back next week, it's on Tuesday, Veterans Report,

900
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Speaker 2: it is on Let's go. Let's go all right. By

901
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Speaker 2: the way, Also, congrats to uh Jersey Jerry broke one

902
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Speaker 2: hundred for the first time on the golf course s

903
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Speaker 2: out of ninety seven. Hey, congrats it that's a big moment. Man.

904
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Speaker 2: I remember the first time. Yeah, I remember what I

905
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 2: shot the first round of golf. Ier played one hundred

906
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Speaker 2: and forty four.

907
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 3: I think I was about one twenty five, So maybe

908
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 3: I actually one time I've improved and I yeah, I

909
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 3: have a little bit.

910
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 2: I like you love it. Here we go, all right,

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Speaker 2: our number two, Cleon Brown's Daily come your way right

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00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: The Browns rookies and quarterbacks reporting today. Quinn Shawn Judkins

918
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,680
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919
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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns as he deals with his legal matter. Updates

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Speaker 2: from the Open Championship for you right now. The finest

921
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Speaker 2: of all the majors, Matt Fitzpatrick now is through fifteen

922
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: remains one shot above Harmon and Lee. Scottie Scheffler in

923
00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: fourth by himself at seven under through twelve holes. I

924
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 2: see Scotty get up there. I'd like to see Scotty

925
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 2: get to the final group tomorrow. I like se him

926
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 2: get to nine would be great, But at least get

927
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 2: to like eight. He's right where he needs to do,

928
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: right where he needs to be.

929
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm alright, I'm alright. Tomorrow's moving day.

930
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, tomorrow's moving day. That's right. So yeah, let's see

931
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 2: how this goes. By the way, speaking of golf shows, up,

932
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: we've stuck with stick the Owen Wilson one. It's pretty good.

933
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying it. I've heard the opposite, so at first

934
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 2: I didn't really like it, and now I like it.

935
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 2: Owen Wilson's great. Okay, some of the sidekicks are terrible,

936
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 2: some of them are good. And they just this last one.

937
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: They had cameos, they'd Kegan Bradley, they got like some

938
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 2: of the some of the pros there got Nance really

939
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: Nance and Immelman do the commentary for his first tour event,

940
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 2: for Sante's first tour event. So it's not bad. It's

941
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 2: not bad.

942
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 3: How many episodes ten?

943
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 2: Okay. I just did watch though the other night when

944
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 2: Miss Kay went out to the concert because she can't write.

945
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: Now she's like with the new one. She can't watch

946
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 2: anything stressful. So it's like season three of Squid Games,

947
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 2: the final season. I love that show and I watched

948
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 2: the second episode and it was one hour of just

949
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 2: like John the Floor, really tough watch, tough but good,

950
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: very well done, but tough, very tough watch, very tough watch.

951
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 2: Oh nice, all right, get back, let's get into it

952
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 2: right now.

953
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, you wanna have a little We're going through all

954
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 3: the ESPN stuff with Jeremy Fowler. Okay, Execs Coaches Scouts

955
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: ranked the NFL's top ten edge our Buddy's favorite segment

956
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 3: for twenty twenty five. Yes, it's also a lot of

957
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 3: money invested in these ten spots.

958
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 2: Yep uh.

959
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 3: Miles was number one.

960
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 2: I think I can I think this, I think this,

961
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: I think you can do this one. All right, so

962
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 2: Miles tj y number two. Hendrickson. Where is Hendrickson Parsons

963
00:51:53,719 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 2: yep uh. Nick Bosa, Yes, crushed it so far. Daniel Hunter,

964
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 2: Daniel Hunter. I'm nervous because of the injury, but I

965
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: think he'll still be there. Aiden Hutchinson, he's in Okay,

966
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: that's that's seven or that's yeah, seven for seven. He

967
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 2: is seventh and he is seventh. Yeah. Now it gets

968
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 2: a little bit hard because I think there's a lot

969
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: of guys in a very similar area here. Uh, Khalil

970
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 2: Mack not not in the top ten. Honorable mention, uh.

971
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 3: No, also receiving votes.

972
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: Okay, Josh Allen of the Jags, Josh Heines Allen also

973
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 2: receiving votes. Yes, thank you, Will Anderson, he's in the

974
00:52:49,440 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 2: top ten. Okay, number eight, all right, Will Anderson. Joey Bosa. No,

975
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 2: it feels like a reach. The kid from the Rams,

976
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: Jared Verse number ten. Okay, just give me, give me

977
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: a little hint on the number nine guy, so you

978
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: can keep it moving along. No, no, you're fine. Um,

979
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 2: I don't think you said him. I clearly did same

980
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 2: some same. Give me a give me a team or

981
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 2: not team? Give me an oh, Max Crosby, there you go, Yeah,

982
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: no doubt.

983
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 3: I was like, so their rankings had Miles one, t J.

984
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 3: Watt two, Micah Parsons three.

985
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 2: Yep.

986
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 3: It's just gotta be loving all the contracts being dulled

987
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 3: out to edge rushers for him. Uh Max Crosby four,

988
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 3: Bosa five, Hendrickson six, Hutchinson seven, Anderson eight, Daneil hunter

989
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 3: is nine, Verse is ten.

990
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

991
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 3: Honorable mention Brian Burns Okay, Nick Bonito, Yeah, Nick Benito, boy,

992
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 3: he was impressive last year. Oh my god, against that's

993
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 3: that picks was nuts.

994
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Jonathan Grenard went from the from the Texans where

995
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: he was very good into Minnesota was very good last year.

996
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And George carloftis from the Chiefs receiving boats. Was

997
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 3: Heinz Allen Khalil mack Rashaun, Gary Trayvon Walker, Montez Sweat,

998
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 3: Greg Rousseau, Chop Robinson. Okay, okay, all right, good group,

999
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 3: top of the top man, good group, good group.

1000
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 2: All right. Now you have the tight ends. What do

1001
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 2: you got?

1002
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 3: We're gonna do one offensive and one.

1003
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: Defensive, you tight ends? Kelsey.

1004
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I had to go all the way down

1005
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 3: to Laporta.

1006
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 2: Yes. McBride, uh, he's definitely on there. McBride is four,

1007
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 2: thank you. He is definitely on there. Bowers, yes, number

1008
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 2: one on the list. It doesn't surprise me at all.

1009
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 2: Kittle yes, Mark andrews Ah yes, sixth ye Hockinson yep.

1010
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 3: Still amazing that that trade happened, Vikings Lions. It worked

1011
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 3: out for both both.

1012
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now is where it's gonna get tough. My guess

1013
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 2: is because it's last year. I mean Chief should be

1014
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 2: on there. He's number ten. Chief. Okay, So that's for

1015
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 2: we have eight I think.

1016
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 3: In terms of people for this football team's success this year,

1017
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 3: he's probably one of the five.

1018
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 2: H See. Now, I got like a cluster of like Goddard,

1019
00:55:54,440 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 2: Evan Ingram Okay, Goddard is nine was it? Andw Smith

1020
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 2: because of the year he had last year. No, No.

1021
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 3: Jake Ferguson getting votes, same with John new Smith and

1022
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 3: not Evan Ingram getting votes. Okay, zach Ertz, Nope, someone

1023
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 3: in our division get Sicky Nope.

1024
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 2: The second tight end from the Ravens likely there you go, wow, wow,

1025
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 2: all right, So that's the ten about that.

1026
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 3: So one was brock Bauers ye, Two was Kittle, Yeah,

1027
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 3: three Laporta yeah, four McBride five Kelsey.

1028
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 2: He just had it down your list, Yeah, getting.

1029
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 3: Older six, Andrews seven, Hockinson eight, likely nine, Goddard ten,

1030
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 3: Najoku that is wild. Yeah, honorable mention, Dalton Kincaid, Dalton Kincaid.

1031
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1032
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna have a big bounce back here.

1033
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 3: That's from an AFC scout.

1034
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 2: Okay, he's Look, he's super talented and they drafted him

1035
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 2: to be a big part of what they're doing. Scheffler

1036
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 2: eight under by the way, just Birdie thirteen, let's go.

1037
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: You knew he was gonna get it.

1038
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 3: Friar Mouth Honorable mention, Hunter Henry honorable mention. Well then

1039
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 3: Ingram Comet Ferguson.

1040
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 2: Kate had forty four cats for four and forty eight

1041
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 2: yards last year and was not even he's not a blocker.

1042
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 2: I mean, you want a guy who's a pure receiver.

1043
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: I have an Ingram. I guess only played nine games

1044
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: last year, but certainly on a per game basis, was better.

1045
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 2: He's gonna get down to see him. He got hurt

1046
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 2: in that game against US. Yeah, he got hurt against US,

1047
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: and so then Goddard got hurt against US. Yeah. Yeah,

1048
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 2: lookout for the tight ends, all right.

1049
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 3: Also receiving votes, by the way, Dalton Schultz, yep, Tucker Craft,

1050
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 3: your guy, Kyle Pitts, Juwan Johnson, zach Ertz.

1051
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 2: Zach Ertz had a much better season than I think

1052
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 2: a lot of people realized last year. Like, what do

1053
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: you think given will do a classic? Give a guess

1054
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 2: the stats for Ertz?

1055
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you just said you think he had a

1056
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 3: better year, So I'm gonna say. I'm going to say

1057
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 3: nine hundred yards.

1058
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 2: Receiving Now that's high six and fifty four sixty six

1059
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 2: six fifty four and seven touchdowns at the age of

1060
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 2: thirty four.

1061
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,919
Speaker 3: Pretty good. That's pretty darn good. I mean, that's better

1062
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:31,959
Speaker 3: than Kyle Pitt.

1063
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 2: No.

1064
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, forty seven for six oh two and four touches. Like,

1065
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 3: what's going on with that guy?

1066
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 2: He's an enigma, dude. Just it's it's it has never

1067
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 2: been what people thought it was going to be. Unfortunately.

1068
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 2: I mean his.

1069
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 3: If I'm let me pull up his numbers here. So

1070
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 3: four years in the league, twenty one his best year

1071
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 3: sixty eight grabs for one thousand yards but only had

1072
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 3: one touchdown.

1073
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 2: Was his ricky year? Yeah, yeah, of course.

1074
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 3: Twenty two he played only ten games, had twenty eight catches.

1075
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,439
Speaker 3: Now he play, He's played every He's played a full

1076
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 3: season for three of four years in twenty three fifties

1077
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 3: three grams for six six seven and three touchdowns.

1078
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: It's wild man.

1079
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 3: Last year forty seven for six oh two and four.

1080
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1081
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 3: I guess he's consistent. I don't know if that's consistent.

1082
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 2: Good.

1083
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty rough is what it is.

1084
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 2: It is, pretty wild.

1085
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't I don't know. Very very strange.

1086
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 2: He and when you see him, he just looks like

1087
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 2: he should just be so dominant, he's so big, he's like,

1088
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 2: I think he had a decent run at the end.

1089
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: I want to see with watching quarterback and you see

1090
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 2: him and you make some of some of the plazy

1091
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: makes and you're like, oh my god, this guy should

1092
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 2: be so good and just never really it just never

1093
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 2: has really happened. I don't look at his game looks because

1094
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 2: when Pennix came in on the end, I know he

1095
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: had a couple of good games down the stretch, at

1096
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 2: least I remember. I know he scored a touchdown. Maybe

1097
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 2: that's all it was, Yeah, the one against Washington, four

1098
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 2: for forty four. So no, he didn't really come on.

1099
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 2: He had a nice stretch in the middle of the season.

1100
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 2: He went seven for eighty eight against Tampa, three for

1101
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 2: seventy against Carolina, seven for sixty five against Seattle, four

1102
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 2: for ninety one, and two touchdowns against Tampa. So he

1103
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 2: had like that real nice stretch in the middle. And

1104
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 2: then Cousins gets hurt I think against New Orleans, and

1105
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 2: then that's it and then they go like into the

1106
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 2: tank after that, and then Cousins ends up getting benched,

1107
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 2: So watching that, Kirk Cousins actually got significantly hurt and

1108
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 2: tried to play through it with his shoulder and elbow.

1109
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 2: And that's why his play because he was playing. Cousins

1110
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 2: was playing well prior to that game. Those are the

1111
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 2: things that really jumped out to me just how well

1112
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 2: he was playing before that. So, Kirk Cousins last year

1113
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 2: prior to that Saints game, because that's when he gets

1114
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 2: hurt and they lose a game that they should have won.

1115
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 2: Prior to that Saints game, Kirk Cousins threw three four, eight, nine, ten,

1116
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 2: fourteen seventeen touchdowns with seven picks. He had a game

1117
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 2: where he threw for five hundred and nine yards. He

1118
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 2: was over like basically two forty two thirty every game,

1119
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 2: and his last three games before that, or his last

1120
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 2: actually his last five games before the injury at seven, eight, nine,

1121
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 2: thirteen touchdowns and three picks, like he was hot. And

1122
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 2: then he gets the injury against the ORNs, thows for

1123
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 2: three or six after and then the next week throws

1124
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 2: for like a buck seven and then it was just

1125
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 2: he was not same he after that injury. In the

1126
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 2: next four games, he throws no touchdowns and eight picks.

1127
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 2: Give him credit for playing through it, but man not great.

1128
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but did he hurt well, he hurt himself more

1129
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 3: than he helped himself.

1130
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 2: Oh apparently so apparently so. All right, when we come back,

1131
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna get to the specialists and recap the Browns

1132
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 2: quarter a few quarter centuries plus. We got a few questions,

1133
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,200
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1142
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Speaker 2: Go Browns. All right, Gibby, you got some questions or

1143
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 2: do you want to get into the specialist.

1144
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 3: I do have a question on our YouTube channel from

1145
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 3: Jammac over there, Jermaine Houston. Until everything gets sorted out,

1146
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 3: how do you think the Browns addressed the running back depth?

1147
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 3: If you haven't talked about it, and congrats again on

1148
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 3: the new family edition, Z.

1149
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1150
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 3: Who gets the reps next week? First practice on Wednesday?

1151
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 2: Jerome Ford? Okay?

1152
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 3: And then is it Samson or is it Pierre Strong?

1153
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 2: Then I think it would be Samson. I think Jerome

1154
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 2: Ford would be the first guy up. I mean, Jerome

1155
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 2: Ford was should be serviceable much of the season, was

1156
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 2: your leading running back last year, he was your starter.

1157
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 2: Jerome Ford averaged five point four yards of carry last year.

1158
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 2: He had a long run of sixty five yards. He

1159
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 2: had a long run of sixty nine the year before that.

1160
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 2: He just he hits big runs. He does that. He's

1161
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 2: got I think four runs of over sixty yards in

1162
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 2: his time here with the Cleveland Browns on just three

1163
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 2: hundred and sixteen carries. So he's a big play guy.

1164
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 2: You know, he can catch the ball well. Also eighty

1165
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 2: one receptions over the last two years. So I think

1166
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 2: he would be the guy that would be your starter.

1167
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 2: And then, you know, as we talked about Dylan Samson,

1168
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 2: very talented player, has a chance I think, as we mentioned,

1169
01:03:54,360 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 2: you know, in this situation to really kind of cement himself.

1170
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 2: He's going to get a lot more reps and he's

1171
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 2: an explosive, explosive player, the SEC offensive player there again,

1172
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 2: I'll say SEC Offensive player of the year. You can't

1173
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 2: be the SEC Offensive Player of the year in that

1174
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 2: conference if you don't have talent, and he clearly has talent.

1175
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited to see what he can bring.

1176
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, Judkins was looked like he was

1177
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 2: going to be a stud everything that we've seen, and

1178
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 2: obviously we hope that, you know, everything resolves itself, justice

1179
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 2: has served and the football will come after that. But

1180
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 2: he was going to be a big part of what

1181
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 2: the Browns did. There's no doubt about it in my mind.

1182
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:44,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's why this is tough on so many

1183
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 3: different levels. Not it's bigger than football, Yep, I get it,

1184
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 3: but I mean that's it right now. Him not being

1185
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 3: here opens up opportunities for other players, Yes, and Dylan Samson.

1186
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 3: The floor is yours, Pierre Strong like in a kind

1187
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:03,439
Speaker 3: of a make or break year.

1188
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and for for him it's gonna be right.

1189
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 2: He's fighting to make this team. That's the bottom, that's

1190
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 2: what he's trying to go. So we'll see.

1191
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, uh, let's talk specialists. Okay, final

1192
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 3: grouping for our all quarter century two. Yeah, here we

1193
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 3: go the specialists. All right, do we have the you

1194
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 3: you should somewhere.

1195
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 2: There's a lot of good papers over here from a

1196
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 2: lot of paperwork. There we go. All right, the kicker,

1197
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 2: The kicker is easy. And you know, during this time

1198
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 2: we've had d Hop Kadie York, Austin Cybert, Chase McLaughlin,

1199
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 2: Travis Coonzane Gonzalez who's gone on to be a pro bowler,

1200
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 2: Cody Parker has gone on to be a pro bowler,

1201
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 2: Billy Kundiff. But of course the answer at the kicker,

1202
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 2: it's got to be Phil Dawson, the incomparable Phil Dawsin.

1203
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 3: Phil Dawson was, I believe, eighty four percent on field

1204
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 3: goals for his career, Yes, with the Browns, eighty four percent,

1205
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 3: ninety seven percent on pats.

1206
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 2: Different pat back then that's when it was that it

1207
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 2: was basically an automatic. It was a chip shot. Phil Dawson, though,

1208
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 2: you know in terms of distance, when seven for eight

1209
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 2: in twenty eleven, seven for seven in twenty twelve, two

1210
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 2: times second team All Pro with the Browns was obviously

1211
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 2: a pro Bowler in that season in twenty twelve, and

1212
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 2: there were a few years there were basically Phil Dawson.

1213
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 2: He felt like was he was the MVP of this

1214
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:44,439
Speaker 2: football team. Yeah, he was the he was he was yeah,

1215
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 2: oh no, I yeah.

1216
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 3: Some of his memorable kicks Brown Steelers sixteen to fifteen

1217
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 3: and nineteen ninety nine game winning kick.

1218
01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 2: What about the one off that like the two.

1219
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 3: Evan Brown's Ravens, Dawson's kick bounced off the upright and

1220
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 3: crossbar before going through. It was initially ruled no good

1221
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 3: and then Good reversed it. Twenty fourteen forty nine Ers Rams.

1222
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,439
Speaker 3: Remember he went on to kick for your forty nine ers. Yeah,

1223
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 3: he was a good kicker for them.

1224
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Phil Dawson, very accomplished player. Interesting on some of

1225
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 2: the legend I was there, he was retired. He went

1226
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 2: in if I'm not mistaken, into the legends with Jim

1227
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 2: with Jim, Yeah, that's right, this past season, that's right.

1228
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 3: So you had Dawson from ninety nine to twenty twelve.

1229
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 2: He's the answer. I mean, there's not even anybody correct.

1230
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 3: Billy Condiff was our kicker from two thousand and nine

1231
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 3: to twenty fourteen.

1232
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 2: Billy there's a great video Mo Pedmans screaming at the

1233
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 2: for kind off. He went on to be a first

1234
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 2: team All Pro with the Ravens in twenty ten.

1235
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 3: A lot of kickers went on to some success after so.

1236
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 2: Kind of was with us, left us and came back.

1237
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 2: He was here in two thousand and nine and then

1238
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 2: came back in thirteen and fourteen.

1239
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 3: Travis Coons remember that?

1240
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 2: Yep? Do you remember? Was it him?

1241
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 3: We did a we did It was very popular and

1242
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 3: it was down the street. I think line was out

1243
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 3: the door and around the corner.

1244
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 2: It was crazy, handsome fella. Great guy started his career

1245
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 2: with the most consecutive kicks made. I don't know if

1246
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 2: it was in league history, maybe Brown's history, but he

1247
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 2: started his career one, three, seven, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen,

1248
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 2: fifteen sixteen. I think he made seventeen straight kicks to

1249
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 2: start his career. Yeah, and then we saw him. He

1250
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 2: kicked for the Chargers in that game when we played

1251
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 2: in the soccer stadium. Yeah. Great dude, Travis Coons, very

1252
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 2: nice guy. Uh, Cody Parky, Cody Parky. Zane Gonzalez was

1253
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 2: a draft pick, draft pick, and then Zane Gonzalez I'm

1254
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 2: pretty sure he's still in the league, and.

1255
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 3: He is pretty sure. Weren't they all on Washington?

1256
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 2: Zay Gonzalez went to Arizona. I thought he was a

1257
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 2: Pro bowler one year in Arizona. Maybe he did not

1258
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 2: make the Pro Bowl. I thought he did. He had

1259
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 2: one year. He made ninety percent of his kicks in

1260
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,719
Speaker 2: twenty four. Last year kicked a couple of games for Washington.

1261
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,600
Speaker 3: Greg Joseph, Greg Joseph, Austin cyber.

1262
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 2: Greag Joseph's I even didn't make it as a good

1263
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 2: memory by you. Greg Joseph is the kicker for the Vikings,

1264
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken. Now he's the kicker for the Niners.

1265
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 2: He was a kicker for the Vikings for a while

1266
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 2: and now he's signed with the Niners. But he had

1267
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 2: some really good years with the with the Vikings.

1268
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 3: Austin Cyberts bounced around.

1269
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 2: Yep. Chase McLoughlin was with cyber was kicking really well

1270
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 2: for Washington last year and then got.

1271
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 3: Hurt, and then didn't they sign Kid York.

1272
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 2: They signed Kad York, but then he came out. He

1273
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,719
Speaker 2: was twenty seven of thirty and nine games on field

1274
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 2: goals twenty seven to thirty, did not miss from inside

1275
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 2: of fifty yards.

1276
01:09:55,640 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 3: Pretty good. Cad York at Chase McLaughlin in between. Yeah,

1277
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 3: Riley Patterson they brought in for a couple of games.

1278
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 2: D hot So Cybert's a free agent right now. Zane

1279
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 2: Gonzalez is actually in Washington. Cyberg got placed on IR

1280
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,719
Speaker 2: after having such a great start. Such a bummer for him. Yeah,

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01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 2: so those those a year kids. Gloughlin had some really

1282
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 2: good years.

1283
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 3: Isn't here's some guys that could that could kick the

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01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 3: football for.

1285
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 2: Us, isn't McLoughlin still in like Tampa.

1286
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 3: I feel like he's in the league. I don't know

1287
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:29,679
Speaker 3: where he's at.

1288
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 2: And of course start internet goes right.

1289
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 3: Not great seventy percent on field goals with US Pats

1290
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 3: ninety seven.

1291
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 2: Then he was good with he went to Indy and

1292
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,639
Speaker 2: with solid. Yeah, he's been with Tampa the last two years.

1293
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 2: The last two years he's made ninety four percent of

1294
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 2: his field goals. He is fifty nine for sixty three

1295
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 2: the last two years, including fifteen of eighteen from fifty

1296
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:55,799
Speaker 2: plus with Tampa. How is he not a pro bowler?

1297
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 2: They goes thirty to thirty two last year, including eight

1298
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 2: of ten from fifty plus, didn't miss a kick inside

1299
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 2: of fifty yards, was fifty four to fifty six on

1300
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 2: extra points. He's good on tick kickoffs. How does he

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01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 2: he should have been a pro bowler, quite frankly, Yeah, yeah,

1302
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 2: there's a lot of guys come through the answer for

1303
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 2: us for our purposes.

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01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 3: That Phil is Phil do He's a legend for a reason.

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01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 2: He is a legend. Yes, all right, punters, we have

1306
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 2: some good ones, the Scottish Hammer, Corey bojorkz Zasadil Gardaki, Landing,

1307
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 2: Reggie Hodges, Brad Maynard, Andy Lee.

1308
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 3: I didn't realize Phil Dawson had done some punning for us.

1309
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if we got to get hurt. Yeah,

1310
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 3: it had to be Gardaki from ninety nine to zero three.

1311
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 2: So Andy Lee is a three time first team All Pro,

1312
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 2: three time Pro bowler, one time second team All Pro.

1313
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 2: But those were all with the Niners. He only kicked

1314
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 2: for the Browns in the twenty fifteen season.

1315
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:52,440
Speaker 3: Then do we trade him to Carolina?

1316
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 2: Uh?

1317
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 3: Huh okay, I could remember if he came from Carolina,

1318
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 3: But then when you said Niners on like.

1319
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 2: Oh, obviously, then we had the great Zasadyl was with us.

1320
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 2: I'm trying to see if anybody made the Pro Bowl

1321
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 2: at any point.

1322
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 3: Zastadil Billy Kundiff.

1323
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 2: Guard Dock. He made the Pro Bowl, but as a

1324
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 2: member of the Indianapolis Colts. He did lead the league

1325
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 2: in punting yards with the Browns in ninety nine and

1326
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 2: two thousand and led the league in pun attempts in

1327
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 2: two thousand and two thousand and one. Che those were

1328
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 2: tough times there. Yep.

1329
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 3: Reggie Hodges had a good career. Local guy lives around

1330
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 3: here now. Brad Maynard, remember that name, Brad Maynard. Sure,

1331
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 3: he was, like I want to say, played a ball.

1332
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 2: State, played at ball State. You're correct, third round pick

1333
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 2: of the Giants. Really good. Was only with the Browns

1334
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 2: for one year. He is really a Bears punter. Yep.

1335
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 2: He was at the Browns at the end of his

1336
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 2: career when at the age of thirty seven to twenty eleven.

1337
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 2: I mean, the answer to me is in terms of

1338
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 2: like stats in his time with the Browns. Bjorkaz He's

1339
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 2: last year, led the league in punting yards, had the

1340
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 2: long punt in the league three of the last five years.

1341
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 2: His net averages are historic for the Browns. His total

1342
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 2: averages are historic for the Browns. He's averaged forty nine

1343
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 2: point one yards per punt for the Browns. He would

1344
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 2: be the guy I want to work out with a

1345
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:23,759
Speaker 2: Scottish hammer. Oh man, the hammer. I love the hammer.

1346
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 2: Uh still lives around here in the offseason. Great dude, yep.

1347
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,679
Speaker 2: And he's been the Giants punter for the last three seasons.

1348
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 2: So I mean made giving himself a six year NFL career,

1349
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 2: Like that's when you know his background. That is incredible

1350
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 2: that he was able to do that. But I'm going

1351
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 2: to go with the Great Cole. I'm gonna go with

1352
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 2: the Great Coal because I love the guy. I love

1353
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 2: Corey Borcaz too. That's why I wanted to pass a

1354
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 2: lot again. There was a time where the kicker and

1355
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 2: the punter where the best. Cole's postgame celebration in Denver

1356
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 2: is that's it. That's why he is, That's why he

1357
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 2: is the man. Yeah, And then it comes to long Sampers, now,

1358
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 2: Charlie Hewlett and Pomprion. Pomprion was a two time Pro bowler,

1359
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 2: so he's got to get it. Hewlett's great, great dude,

1360
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 2: love Hewlett, Yes.

1361
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 3: But Pomprion was. Pomprion is the prime example of when

1362
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 3: it starts to go south in your career, it goes

1363
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 3: south in a big, big.

1364
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 2: Big way. Hurry, Charlie Hewitt al by the way with

1365
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 2: the Eagles. Yeah, he had been a just this iron

1366
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 2: man for the Browns in his in his ten years

1367
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 2: or his first nine seasons here, played every game last year,

1368
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 2: got hurt, and now he's going to be a Philadelphia Eagle. Yeah,

1369
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 2: but you got a Pomprion was when you're a two

1370
01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 2: time also a two time Pro bowler as a long

1371
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 2: snapper and you make it as the team's long snapper. Yep,

1372
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 2: that's where he is. So that's that's the squad. So

1373
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:12,759
Speaker 2: to recap it for you, Quarterbacks Mayfield and Derek Anderson,

1374
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 2: running Backs, Nick Chubb, Jamal Lewis, Payton Hillis, Kareem Hunt.

1375
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:19,679
Speaker 2: Receivers Josh Gordon, Jarvis, Landry Braylan Edwards, Josh Cribs, Amari Cooper,

1376
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 2: Jerry Judy, tight ends David at Joku, Gary Barnage and

1377
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 2: Jordan Cameron. Tackles Joe Thomas, Jack Conklin, Mitchell Schwartz, Dwan Jones, Guards,

1378
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:31,679
Speaker 2: Joel Botonio, Y Teller, John Greco, Kevin Zeitler, centers, Alex

1379
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 2: mack and j. C. Tretter. Defensive ends Miles Garrett, Ivan Clowney,

1380
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 2: Levey Vernon, Paul Kruger, Jabal Sheard, defensive tackles Sean Rodgers,

1381
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 2: Dalvin Tomlinson, Sheldon Richardson, Desmon Bryant. Linebackers j Okay, Jamir Millard,

1382
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 2: Daquel Jackson, Joe Shobert, Christian Kirksey, Corners, Denzel Ward, Joe Hayden,

1383
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 2: Anthony Henry, m j Emerson, Buster screen and Money, Mitch safeties,

1384
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:56,799
Speaker 2: Grant delpit tj Ward, Dante Whitner, Sean Jones to, Sean Gibson,

1385
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 2: long snapper, Ryan Pompreon, punter, the great cole kicker Phil Dawson.

1386
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 2: And then the coach I think would have to be

1387
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 2: Kevin Sevanski, two time Coach of the Year. Yeah, I don't.

1388
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 2: Let's see coach.

1389
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 3: It's Greg, It's Freddy, it's Greg Williams, Hugh, it's Mike Petton,

1390
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 3: Chad Zinski. Yep, Butch Davis. But davisach Davis totick him

1391
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 3: to the playoffs second and third probably.

1392
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 2: And prior to last year, he had a very winning record.

1393
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 2: Prior to last year, he was thirty seven and thirty

1394
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 2: that's right now, forty and forty four. Al right, we'll

1395
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 2: get him back. We'll get it back. And he won

1396
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 2: a playoff game. Yeah, exactly, all right. When we come back,

1397
01:16:56,479 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 2: Sam Monson joined the show to recap the Brown's draft

1398
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 2: and free agency. Set in a stage for you for

1399
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 2: this training camp. You'll have listen to that when we

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01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,400
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Speaker 2: All Right, as we get ready for camp and the

1405
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 2: veterans reporting next week, let's take one last bet look

1406
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 2: back at the off season with NFL analysts for the

1407
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 2: thirty third team and co host of the Check the

1408
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 2: Mic podcast, Sam Monson joined the show back in May

1409
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 2: to recap the Brown's draft and free agency.

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01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 6: Take a listen, Sam, Thank you so much for taking

1411
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 6: the time. So going into the draft, one thing Nathan

1412
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 6: and I and kind of everybody around the Browns who

1413
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 6: were around him every day kind of thought, is you

1414
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 6: picked Travis Hunter unless you get a godfather offer? Did

1415
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,600
Speaker 6: they get one? And if so or if not, what

1416
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 6: did you make of what they did? Big picture on

1417
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 6: the draft weekend.

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01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if it was a god offer,

1419
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 4: but I think it was a pretty good offer and

1420
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 4: a deal that you can definitely defend taking. A lot

1421
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 4: of it depends on what you think of Mason Graham

1422
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 4: as a prospect, and he was a guy that didn't

1423
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 4: get that much kind of conversation around him. This draft

1424
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 4: prospect or this draft process, we sort of focused on,

1425
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 4: you know, the Travis Hunters, the Abdul Carter's, and Mason Graham,

1426
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 4: you know, coming into the process, I think was seen

1427
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 4: in that same group. And then maybe when we saw

1428
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,759
Speaker 4: the measurements and it turned out he wasn't three hundred

1429
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 4: and twenty pounds and he didn't have long arms, and

1430
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 4: he wasn't a sort of the physical prototype, I think

1431
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 4: he flipped into the next category for a bunch of people.

1432
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 4: But I think you could argue that Mason Graham on

1433
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 4: the football field is maybe the best player in this draft,

1434
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 4: certainly up there with the top Blue Chief guys. And

1435
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 4: so when you factor in the rest of that deal,

1436
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 4: it's basically Mason Graham and two more players, you know,

1437
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 4: including a first rounder next year for Travis Hunter. And

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01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 4: I think that's entirely defendable. Even with Travis Hunter being

1439
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 4: this unique prospect and we don't quite know what he

1440
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 4: could be value wise based off, you know, being a

1441
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 4: two way player at the next level, there's a lot

1442
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 4: of unknown and therefore sort of theoretical ceiling to Travis

1443
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 4: Hunter that's kind of untapped in the last you know,

1444
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 4: several decades of NFL prospects.

1445
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 2: Sam, So we started obviously with Mason Graham. When you

1446
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 2: just kind of step back from it, we'll get into

1447
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 2: some specific players and of course the quarterbacks. But Mason

1448
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 2: Graham and then swesst and Jerseys to go defense defense

1449
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 2: with I think, which I think surprised a lot of people.

1450
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 2: Then it's all offense. You get two running backs, two quarterbacks,

1451
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 2: and a tight end in Harold Fanner. What did you

1452
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 2: make of the Swessenger pick at thirty three and then

1453
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 2: kind of just the overall offensive halland was did you

1454
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 2: take a message away where the Browns? What were the

1455
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 2: Browns trying to accomplish in this draft in your mind?

1456
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 4: I think, honestly, the Browns just drafted best player available

1457
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 4: when they came up, and I think that kind of

1458
01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 4: really explains their entire draft. And sometimes I think overall,

1459
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 4: drafting best player available, just taking the guys you think

1460
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 4: are really good is a good drafting strategy, but sometimes

1461
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 4: it does mean that when you come out of the

1462
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 4: draft at the end of it and you sort of

1463
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 4: look at the overall hall of players, you go, well,

1464
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 4: we didn't hit this position, or we you know, we

1465
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 4: didn't find.

1466
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 2: Cover at this spot.

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01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,600
Speaker 4: You don't necessarily tick off all of the needs that

1468
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 4: you would have on the roster. So I think that's

1469
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 4: the criticism of this draft, if you want to level

1470
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 4: what at it is because they just drafted the guys

1471
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 4: that they thought were basically the top bey on the board.

1472
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Speaker 4: They didn't necessarily hit, you know, the exact positions that

1473
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 4: you would want them to hit if they were drafting

1474
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 4: in that way as their overall overarching philosophy. But in

1475
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 4: terms of the players they picked, I think they just

1476
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 4: grabbed good football players all the way down.

1477
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Speaker 2: What did you think a Harold fan and who obviously

1478
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 2: was so productive at bowling Green pick number sixty seven,

1479
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 2: and the Browns wanted to get back into more twelve personnel,

1480
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 2: the idea of being able to pair him who can

1481
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 2: probably not be as attached as much, but in the slot,

1482
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 2: even out at times with David Ajoku.

1483
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely crazy production in college. Like there have been

1484
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:07,599
Speaker 4: a couple of tight ends in the last few years

1485
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 4: who basically were the offense in college. Usually it's a

1486
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 4: running back or maybe a wide receiver that takes the

1487
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:17,600
Speaker 4: entirety of the system. But Trey McBride when he was

1488
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 4: coming out of college before he went to the Cardinals,

1489
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 4: and then Harrold Fannon those are the guys that just

1490
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 4: they were the offense. And Harrold Fannin is dynamic. I

1491
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 4: think people maybe expected him to test a little better

1492
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 4: and put up more crazy athleticism numbers didn't quite have that.

1493
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 4: And he's got a sort of slightly unusual running style,

1494
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 4: almost like bow legged or knock me the way he

1495
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 4: moves around. But he makes people miss, and he's dynamic

1496
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 4: and athletic and has good hands.

1497
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 2: You know.

1498
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 4: I think you're right. They're going to use more two

1499
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 4: tight end sets, and I think he can definitely be

1500
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 4: a significant receiving threat within that type of offense.

1501
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 6: Sam Dylan Gabriel was, according to Kevin Spansky Andrew Burry

1502
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 6: their number two quarterback on the ball behind cam Ward,

1503
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 6: so cam Ward won. They had Dylan Gabriel number two.

1504
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:08,679
Speaker 6: What do you see from Gabriel on tape? Obviously highly

1505
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,639
Speaker 6: efficient at Oregon, but what did you see on tape?

1506
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 6: And in terms of how that tape would fit what

1507
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 6: Kevin wants to do offensively?

1508
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:19,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I can't get to the second best quarterback

1509
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 4: in this draft with Dylan Gabriel, but I know, I mean,

1510
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 4: I think I ranked him fourth. I think Steve, my

1511
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 4: podcast partner, had him somewhere in the top five. And

1512
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 4: Mike Rehder, a former colleague of ours and that with

1513
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 4: CBS Sports, I think he had him as the third

1514
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 4: quarterback in this draft. So as a collective, we were

1515
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 4: definitely higher on Dylan Gabriel than most people. I think

1516
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 4: he gets kind of mislabeled a bit because he's short, right,

1517
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 4: So we see these short quarterbacks and we tend to

1518
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 4: think of them as having marginal NFL tools and you know,

1519
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 4: not really having the physical skill set to succeed at

1520
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 4: the next level across the board. But actually, if you

1521
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 4: watch Dylan Gabriel, he's got a really good arm, not

1522
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 4: just a mark, you know, not just a better arm

1523
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 4: than he think. We're a short guy. I mean, he's

1524
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 4: got a really legit cannon on him, and he's more

1525
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 4: athletic than he get him credit for as well. And

1526
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 4: even though he's short, he's stocky, he's stick. He's not

1527
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 4: a slight quarterback that you're sort of worried about taking

1528
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 4: hits like Bryce Young was. He's got some power to him.

1529
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,919
Speaker 4: So I think Dylan Gabriel's actually got some pretty impressive

1530
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 4: physical tools and obviously is incredibly experienced, has played a

1531
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:26,639
Speaker 4: ton in college, and we were sort of talking about

1532
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 4: him as, yeah, look, he's probably a backup quarterback at

1533
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 4: the next level. But if you were picking one of

1534
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:36,640
Speaker 4: those backup level quarterbacks and asking like, which is the

1535
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:40,640
Speaker 4: one guy that's going to defy expectations and overachieve and

1536
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 4: become a surprise starter out of that group, I think

1537
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 4: Dylan Gabriel was the guy that we were all zeroing

1538
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 4: in on and saying, I could I could definitely see

1539
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 4: that guy overachieving and you know, performing a middle round

1540
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 4: draft pick, so I have no problem where they drafted him.

1541
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 4: You know, I think we were higher on him than

1542
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 4: the consensus. But that's a perfectly acceptable range. I think

1543
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 4: to draft a guy like that, and I do think

1544
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 4: he has the tools to potentially succeed and become a starter.

1545
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 2: Is this the if you were going to say the

1546
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 2: type of offense you wanted Dylan Gabriel to go at,

1547
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,600
Speaker 2: to be that guy who would exceed expectations as the

1548
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 2: Kevin Sefanski offense, is that is that the right spot

1549
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 2: for him?

1550
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 4: I mean, I think Kevin Stefanski's offense is the right

1551
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:25,839
Speaker 4: spot for most quarterbacks. I think it's a good offense.

1552
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 4: It's a quarterback friendly system. There aren't many quarterbacks that

1553
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 4: I think don't naturally fit particularly well within that offense. Now,

1554
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 4: ironically the Browns went and traded the farm for one,

1555
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 4: which doesn't help. But yeah, I think Dylan Gabriel fits

1556
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 4: within that offense. I think shud Or Standers fits within

1557
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 4: that offense. I think it's a good system for either

1558
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 4: of those guys to show the best that they can

1559
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 4: bring to the table at this level.

1560
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 2: Good to that end, I think once they picked Dylan Gabriel,

1561
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 2: we thought that was it right at that position. Sam

1562
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:01,719
Speaker 2: Then they picked Shador Sanders, who most people had rated

1563
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 2: significantly ahead of Dylan Gabriel, and I think who very

1564
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 2: very few people, if any, on the planet thought that

1565
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 2: he would be picked number one, forty four in this draft. Obviously,

1566
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 2: we know now that the pre draft process was not

1567
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 2: up to the level that teams around the league had expected,

1568
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 2: and that you know, takes the fall for a guy

1569
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 2: who was either a first or a second round talent

1570
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 2: based on most people's tape evaluation, and those who you know,

1571
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 2: weren't detractors, said, oh, yeah, he's a good second round pick.

1572
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 2: He goes in the fifth. What do you make of

1573
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders the player? We know why he fell where

1574
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 2: he did, and then what that can mean for the NFL,

1575
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:34,759
Speaker 2: what that can mean for Dylan Gabriel and Kenny Pickett

1576
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 2: and Kevin Stefanski here in Cleveland.

1577
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I agree. I think he's a first

1578
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 4: or a second round talent on pretty much everybody's evaluation.

1579
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:47,640
Speaker 4: On the field, It's it's a difficult evaluation because the

1580
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 4: offensive line, the protection at Colorado was horrific, like an

1581
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 4: absolute travesty, and I think that completely muddies the picture

1582
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 4: in terms of Shador's relationship with pressure and how he's

1583
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 4: going to handle that at the next level. And that

1584
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 4: was his biggest flaw certainly last season, was how many

1585
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 4: sacks he takes, how many bad sax he takes. But

1586
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:10,679
Speaker 4: we don't know what that looks like. If you change

1587
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 4: the dynamic and you change just the volume of pressure

1588
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 4: you put him under. You think back to Baker Mayfield

1589
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:19,799
Speaker 4: and Cleveland. When Greg Robinson was Baker Mayfield's left tackle.

1590
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 4: It changed everything about the way Baker Mayfield plays the

1591
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 4: game right, even on the plays where he wasn't getting

1592
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 4: pressure and he was leaning away from that left tackle spot.

1593
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 4: It just got in his head and he started to

1594
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 4: change the way you play the game. Now, think about

1595
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,719
Speaker 4: all five of your offensive linemen or bask Greg Robinson.

1596
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 4: That's what Chendoor Sanders was dealing with the Colorado and

1597
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,680
Speaker 4: it has to change the way you behave not just

1598
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 4: under pressure, but on the plays where you're not pressure.

1599
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 4: So I think what we saw was a guy who

1600
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 4: has you know, first or second round talent, depending on

1601
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 4: how you evaluate and project those things, who fell as

1602
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 4: far as he did because of all the other stuff,

1603
01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 4: because of whether it's handling the pre draft process, you know,

1604
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 4: rubbing teams the wrong way, whether it's the Deon Sanders factor,

1605
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 4: all those different things, and the Browns, you know, effectively

1606
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 4: had taken him off the board. We're saying, well, he's

1607
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 4: not worth the first rounder at the top, he's not

1608
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 4: worth the second rounder, and we like Dylan Gabriel maybe more,

1609
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 4: you know, maybe less. Who knows whether there's accurately telling

1610
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 4: the truth with that, but we like Dylan Gabriel and

1611
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 4: the third is a better option. But at some point

1612
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 4: quarterback is such a payoff, and you know, you have

1613
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 4: to have the self awareness to know that nobody is

1614
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:34,760
Speaker 4: particularly good at evaluating these guys. So it becomes a

1615
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 4: worthwhile roll of the dice, right if they take door

1616
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 4: Standers in the fifth even though they think there's a

1617
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 4: very small chance that he works out. If he does

1618
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:45,680
Speaker 4: work out and he's a fifth round draft pick, it's

1619
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:48,600
Speaker 4: the best pick they made this draft. And if he

1620
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 4: doesn't work out, a fifth round draft pick is so

1621
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 4: low that there's no downside. You know, they can if

1622
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:57,719
Speaker 4: he comes in with an entitled attitude and causing problems

1623
01:27:57,760 --> 01:27:59,759
Speaker 4: and as a headache, you can cut them in training

1624
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 4: can but it's not a big deal. I mean, fifth

1625
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:05,600
Speaker 4: round picks don't make the roster relatively regularly. So I

1626
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 4: think they just reached the point in the draft where

1627
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 4: they decided there was no downside to this move and

1628
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 4: the potential upside is huge.

1629
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 2: Sam, how do you.

1630
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 6: You're looking at the tape, your tape guy, right, we

1631
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:21,560
Speaker 6: look at the tape and you have these opinions on

1632
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 6: these guys. How do you compare Gabriel and Sanders strengths weaknesses.

1633
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 4: I think should Standers is the most accurate quarterback in

1634
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:35,839
Speaker 4: this draft class. I think he reads through a defense

1635
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 4: pretty well. I think Gabriel has better physical tools, strange

1636
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 4: as it sounds for a short quarterback, but I think

1637
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 4: he's got a better arm. I think he's more athletic.

1638
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,680
Speaker 4: I think he's more dynamic when he's moving around. But

1639
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 4: I think Shoodhor Sanders is a better pure passer of

1640
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 4: the ball. He's more accurate, he's got better poise, He's

1641
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 4: able to layer the ball better. I think he's able

1642
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 4: to read defenses a little bit better point as well.

1643
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 4: So I think they're very different players, but as I said,

1644
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 4: I ranked them reasonably close together. I had Sanders as

1645
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 4: my second quarterback in this draft based on the tape,

1646
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 4: and I had Gabrielos before.

1647
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 2: It's gonna be interesting. I mean, can you recall a

1648
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 2: time like this where you're gonna have really and both

1649
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:26,600
Speaker 2: said earlier they really can go into this with no

1650
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:29,640
Speaker 2: bias whatsoever and just have a real quarterback competition. You've got,

1651
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 2: obviously Joe Flacco, who's been here in one games, Kenny

1652
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:34,599
Speaker 2: Pickett's won fifteen games in the NFL and a former

1653
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 2: first rounder in his own right. But this is gonna

1654
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 2: be such a unique situation. How do you even kind

1655
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 2: of in your mind what are you hoping to see

1656
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 2: from these guys and maybe even how the Browns approach

1657
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 2: this to try to really figure out, Okay, who is

1658
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:48,679
Speaker 2: the best one for us now in the future.

1659
01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean for the Browns, the best thing that

1660
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 4: can happen for them is either one of those two

1661
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 4: guys wins the job and looks like a future quarterback,

1662
01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:59,599
Speaker 4: you know, looks like a potential starter, not just this year,

1663
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 4: but in twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven. If

1664
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 4: they need to go with Kenny Pickett or Joe Flacco,

1665
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 4: it's not the worst thing in the world, because they

1666
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 4: That's the other part of this, the trade at the

1667
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 4: top of this draft is they are now positioned with

1668
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:17,600
Speaker 4: two first round picks next year, so they've bought themselves

1669
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 4: time to get to next year when they might be

1670
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 4: they might have a better shot at a quarterback that

1671
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 4: they do really like at the top of this draft,

1672
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 4: right so next year, you know, it's always too early

1673
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 4: to say accurately what next year's draft class is going

1674
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 4: to look like from the quarterback point of view, but

1675
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 4: they really thought that this was basically a one quarterback draft.

1676
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 4: It was cam Ward at number one, and then a

1677
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 4: big gat to anybody else, and really only cam Ward

1678
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 4: was a true sort of franchise quarterback that you're willing

1679
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 4: to just toss the keys to right away and be

1680
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 4: comfortable with for the next ten years. Next year probably

1681
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 4: has more than that. You know, we don't know how

1682
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:55,639
Speaker 4: many yet, but it's probably going to have more than

1683
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 4: one that falls into that category. So Cleveland has already

1684
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 4: had in a really smart way by getting those two

1685
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 4: first round draft picks, and they've bought themselves that time.

1686
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 4: So I really think you just go in there, you

1687
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 4: figure out who's going to be the nominal starter, you know,

1688
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 4: day one of training camp, and then you just give

1689
01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 4: give these guys reps with the first team and see

1690
01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 4: who emerges, you know, see who puts their hand up

1691
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:24,559
Speaker 4: and shows not just the best play but some kind

1692
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 4: of leadership quality and you know as a guy that

1693
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 4: the team will rally around and all those kinds of things.

1694
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, it should be as open a competition as

1695
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:33,720
Speaker 4: you're going to find in the NFL right now.

1696
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, Sam, you're the best man. Thank you so much

1697
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 6: for the time. Greatly appreciate you anytime.

1698
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 4: Guys, stay easy, all right.

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