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Speaker 1: back to On Purpose, the number one health podcast in

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Speaker 1: the world. Thanks to each and every single one of

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: Can you believe it's been three years since our first interview.

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Speaker 1: Three years twenty nineteen was when we launched the podcast.

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Speaker 1: so I know how to like succeed in dance, right,

432
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,960
Speaker 1: I've been able to like get the right job. And

433
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,479
Speaker 1: what do I do. It's like I go and study,

434
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 1: I rehearse, I try and find a way for it

435
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 1: to connect to me and authenticity with storytelling. And I

436
00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 1: realized I was missing that whole side of it pitching

437
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,959
Speaker 1: my company because I was walking in like a robot, like,

438
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 1: how is anyone going to like me? I didn't like me?

439
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 1: And I think that's really when I realized I needed

440
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 1: to be the full version of who I was. And

441
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 1: so I started walking into those rooms and I would

442
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 1: be wearing my leggings instead of wearing a business suit.

443
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: And I think people were like, you are the right person.

444
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,119
Speaker 1: And by the way, M two was never gonna leave me,

445
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 1: right like Bain was never going to leave me. I

446
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,679
Speaker 1: still had that credibility. I needed to wear that in

447
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 1: a way that made me feel confident. And over time,

448
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 1: I just stopped seeing any of the differences. And I

449
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 1: think that's really the most important thing I would tell

450
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 1: people is at some point you just have to actually

451
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 1: embrace all those things that make you different and know

452
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 1: that your journeys set you up to be that successful

453
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 1: in that moment to do whatever you were going to

454
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 1: do going forward. Yeah, that's so powerful, like what you've

455
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: just said, because the challenge is that we only attract

456
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 1: the right people into our lives when we don't hide

457
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: part of ourselves. Because if you hide parts of yourselves,

458
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 1: you're only attracting What they find attractive is parts that

459
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 1: you haven't hidden. And it can be really uncomfortable to

460
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: not hide parts of yourself because chances are most people

461
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: aren't going to vibe with you, but the right people are. Yeah,

462
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 1: and I think that's what you're waiting for. And I

463
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 1: think it's really scary to go into a room and

464
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 1: have the There's a brilliant book I read recently called

465
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: The Courage to Be Disliked, and I was like, that's

466
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,959
Speaker 1: really what you need, is that we all need the

467
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 1: courage to be able to walk into a room and

468
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: be okay with that this person may not vibe with me,

469
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: but there will be someone who will and walk us through.

470
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Speaker 1: What do you think I want to hear this because

471
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 1: I think your dance experience is just it's what gravitated

472
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: me towards you. So that's another perfect example of what

473
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: we're just saying. When I first discovered you on Instagram,

474
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: it was like I just saw you posting and I

475
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 1: was like, Wow, this is amazing, Like, who's this American

476
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 1: Indian girl or Indian American girl who's posting the girl

477
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 1: woman who's posting these? Who's posting these incredible like very classical,

478
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:11,719
Speaker 1: timeless work of art pictures of dance with Saar Dance Company.

479
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 1: And I was just like, this is just I've never

480
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,479
Speaker 1: seen something like this before. Tell me about what you

481
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: think dance taught you about life? Oh yeah, because I

482
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: think you lived the way you dance. Yeah, And I

483
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 1: hope too. I mean I always say like, I hope

484
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: I'm choreographing through life, you know. And I used to

485
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: always feel when I was walking through like the streets

486
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 1: of New York, I just felt like I was dancing.

487
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: And you know, when you meet like the birst at Starbucks,

488
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: like I feel like you give that energy if you

489
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: feel like that, and I do feel it's like it's

490
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: an enlightenment. And this is why you need a musical.

491
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: This is why, this is why Pyle if you direct

492
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: musicals or theater productions, please reach out, because yeah, when

493
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 1: you said that, all I visualized you was like doing

494
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: a musical or you're like singing and dancings will get

495
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 1: the bruces. An aside, and this is actually a really funny,

496
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: funny story is when I was younger, like literally like

497
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: five years old, my parents would take long drives. Right

498
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: my sister would be like looking out the window, and

499
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: I would put a headphones on and listen to Bollywood

500
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: tracks and literally see people dancing in the mountains in

501
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 1: my head. I have been choreographing since I was so

502
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: young in my head, like I don't know why, but

503
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: probably watching too many Bollywood films when I was younger.

504
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: But I just I don't know, I just saw the

505
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: world that way. I just saw that's how people work together.

506
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: So as an aside, but going back to what dances

507
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: taught me, I think to start with that, I have

508
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: to go back to Ushanti, who is my dance teacher,

509
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: who literally taught me obviously not just how to dance,

510
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: but she taught me how to show up to life. Right.

511
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: In India, we talk about Guruji's right a lot, and

512
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 1: it's someone who bestows knowledge upon you, you respect them

513
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: because the one thing that's indestructible is knowledge. Right. She

514
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,479
Speaker 1: of course was teaching me steps, you know, and at

515
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: the time I didn't necessarily appreciate everything. I was like, oh, hey,

516
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: I want to go and have with my friends. But

517
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,239
Speaker 1: she was teaching me about where I had come from, right,

518
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 1: the women of India, my ancestors, which made me feel

519
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: much more stronger in who I was, even though once

520
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: again I didn't know it at the time. But she also,

521
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: you know, she expected us to be on time, right,

522
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: She expected us to practice, she expected us to have

523
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 1: our hair up. And I know it sounds a little forced,

524
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: and it can, you know, to some people who are like,

525
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: oh wow, like that she's so strict, But I am

526
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: so glad I had her in my life. And even today,

527
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: she's one of the first people I call to be like, hey,

528
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm dealing with this, what should I do? Because she

529
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: will give me the toughest but the best advice, right

530
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: she and she even the other day, I think I

531
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: sent her a dance video and she's like, you know,

532
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: I'm not going to praise you, so if you're sending

533
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: it's something to me. I'm going to give you real feedback.

534
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: And I love that, you know, because it keeps me

535
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: growing and everything that I do. And I think as

536
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: I grew up and started dancing more so, college is

537
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: sort of this other time that happened in my life

538
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: when once again, like I'm a tiny person, I'm the

539
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: baby of my family. I didn't know what it meant

540
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: to be a leader, right. I had never taken on

541
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 1: that role. And I think in anything in our lives, right,

542
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: people don't realize you can take a leadership role in

543
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: the smallest thing. It could be literally planning a family vacation. Right.

544
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: It's really just about learning how you work and how

545
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: you lead with like a vision. Right. And so for me,

546
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 1: even at college, it probably started with choreographing forty person

547
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: dam shows. Right, When how do you organize people like

548
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: that and think about communicating right and getting everyone to

549
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: move in the same way. There is no difference between

550
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: that and running a team. And then by the time

551
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 1: I started SAW and I was building confidence because I

552
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 1: was good at executing these shows and these performances, and

553
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: people were gravitating towards it because they were like, Wow,

554
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: you're really good at what you do. And which helped

555
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: me build confidence, even though once again this was a

556
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: side thing I did my whole life. And so by

557
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: the time I was building saw and started, you know,

558
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: putting down money towards like doing big shows in New

559
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: York City and seeing like Indian celebrities want to come

560
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: to it, seeing us sellout shows, you know the week before,

561
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: seeing my ability to never you know, find a stage

562
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: manager and a lighting designer when I didn't know that

563
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: world at all, like I was in the business world.

564
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: I didn't have any idea and I was in the

565
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: middle of New York City. To see a lot of

566
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: that just made me believe in my ability to execute.

567
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,239
Speaker 1: And I think we forget how important execution is and

568
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: the confidence it gives you. Right, So you can have

569
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: an idea, but if you've never really completed something in

570
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: your life, you don't know right And you know, in

571
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: the smallest form like class Pass to me literally started

572
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: with one hundred person dance show because that was the

573
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 1: first thing I ever did that was sort of my

574
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: own with a vision, and I got people to come

575
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 1: and banned against and you know what, some of those

576
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: people who came to that first show of mine became

577
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: my investors and class pass and I think everything is

578
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 1: connected because my other point on this is I always

579
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: did good work right because I was always doing what

580
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: I loved. Right. It wasn't do good work because the

581
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: world is telling me to do good work. It was

582
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: I liked to put my heart into things. It was

583
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: the only way I knew how to operate. And I

584
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: think that came from the basis of dance. It was

585
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: how do I do everything with that love? How do

586
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: I choreograph my life and give danced into everything I'm

587
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: doing because it adds joy to it to everyone around. Yeah,

588
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: I think that point that you made is so important

589
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: because you were doing everything you did with love, care

590
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: and attention. So people when they saw you, whether you

591
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: were dancing or whether you're in a meeting, they could

592
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: trust Pile does things with love, care and attention. And

593
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: that's why the people who came to your dance show

594
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: became your investors. The problem is we see everything is disconnected.

595
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: We think, well, that's what I love and that's what

596
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: I hate, or that's what I really want to do

597
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: and that's not what I want to do. But actually,

598
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: when you approach even things you don't want to do,

599
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: with love, care, and attention. People take note, and then

600
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: that starts to be called a connection, like the fact

601
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: that you used what you learned in dance to choreograph teams.

602
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: Just that idea, if anyone's listening to that right now.

603
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: You may be going to a job every day that

604
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: you don't like, but I promise you there's a skill

605
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: in your personal life that you love that you can

606
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: apply there, or there's a skill in that workplace that

607
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: you can apply to your personal life, and all of

608
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: a sudden it becomes meaningful. Yeah. I spent years working

609
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: at Accenture, which was not my purpose or not my passion. However,

610
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: when I look back on it, I see it as

611
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: some of the best training I ever received because I

612
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: learned so many invaluable skills that I would never have

613
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: learned anywhere else. You can either look at that experience

614
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: and negate it and think, oh, well, that was a

615
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: waste of time. We can go, well, what's the one

616
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: thing I got there that actually helps me build what

617
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: I'm building, which is your journey. I mean, let's dive

618
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: into when you're choreographing life, which I just love that

619
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: even just that is just such a beautiful thought mentors

620
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: is not something that you left just for dance as well.

621
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: Mentorship is something what I saw in you. You've constantly

622
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: chosen to be humble and want to learn from everyone

623
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: around you. How did you, as you became more successful,

624
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: remain grounded to one advice? When I think so many

625
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: people when as their career grows, they almost think, well,

626
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,239
Speaker 1: now people should come to me for advice. How did

627
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: you keep that balance? Because I've seen you do it? Yeah,

628
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: but I don't. I think it's quite surprising to a

629
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: lot of people in general, not about you, but in general.

630
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: I think as human beings we can constantly grow. And

631
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: maybe this is you know, deep root for me in

632
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: the way I was taught with Ushanti with I will

633
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: never be and be able to know all the knowledge

634
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: of even dance in my life. Right. And I think

635
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: when you think about that and learning a skill that

636
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: could literally be a lifelong learning journey, all of this

637
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: can be even entrepreneurship, like class pass was a journey

638
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: my business journey. Everything gets me one step further, and

639
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: I think the power of it is keeping myself growing

640
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: with teachers, right, I mean, that's the basis of class passes.

641
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: We should never in our lives ever be at a

642
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: place where we want to stop growing and learning. I

643
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: think the second we do, we get bored and we

644
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: get sad. And what's the journey, right, It's it becomes

645
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: meaningless And what are you going to do sitting there

646
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: at the top by yourself anyway? What is that? You know?

647
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: There's always more to do and really there's always more

648
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: to give, right, I think that's really where it comes from.

649
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: But you know, I think obviously like there are times

650
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Speaker 1: in my life and I actually have to balance it

651
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: right now because a lot of people do want my advice,

652
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: which is why I wrote my book because I felt

653
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Speaker 1: like that was a responsible way for me to do it.

654
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: But at the same time, like I have to also

655
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: limit that to be able to say we I want

656
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: to grow too. And I think that's a really interesting

657
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: thing to even think about at this point in my life,

658
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: is you know, what's going to inspire me, what's going

659
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: to help me grow? And I'm constantly thinking about that.

660
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: What friends do I want to spend time with, right

661
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: what mentors do I need? Because I'm going through like

662
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: a shift right now. You know, I'm very very conscious

663
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: and self aware of where I am, and I think

664
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: that really adds to it. But at the end of

665
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: the day, like I would never want someone to ever

666
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: feel like they are the smartest person in the world.

667
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't like working with people like that,

668
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: to be honest. It's like not my way of working.

669
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: But there are people and I think a lot of

670
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: times sadly that actually comes from insecurity. Right. It's a

671
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: defense mechanism. It's a defense mechanism. And so I think

672
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: when you truly are confident in a way, you don't

673
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: have to prove anything. Yeah, And I think that's what

674
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 1: people have to remember. It's it's not about acting like

675
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: you're smart. Yeah, it's truly about just being able to

676
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: live and be without society making you feel like you're insecure.

677
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: So let me act a certain way because it comes

678
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: across unnatural. I think you've just hit on a really

679
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: important point. Part of our imposter syndrome comes from us

680
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: thinking we have to say something or we have to

681
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: be at this table because we have something to offer.

682
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: The smartest people in the world ask more questions than

683
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: they talk. Yeah, Like they're actually thinking about like, oh, well,

684
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: what can I learn from this person or how can

685
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: I learn from this person. And so when you go

686
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: into somewhere, we think confidence means talking the most, and

687
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: confidence actually means being confident to say I don't know

688
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: and let me ask the most. And so if you're

689
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: sitting here listening to this going well, Jay, if I

690
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: was in an environment with mentors and people, I wouldn't

691
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: know what to say, ask questions, right Like, asking questions

692
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: is the safest way to learn. One of the things

693
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: I learn about this book Pile is not only is

694
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: it your story, but it's so practical and I just

695
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: want to hold up some things to some people so

696
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: you can see that, you know, there's there's these beautiful

697
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: moments in this book that you take this opportunity to

698
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: make things really practical and asking people to reflect. And

699
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: I love that because often these books, when they're written

700
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: by entrepreneurs, it's like, here's my story and here's how

701
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: I great. And yours doesn't do that. Yours continues to

702
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: give people systems and framework, a lot of checkpoints and

703
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: advice on top of you know, the stories and especially

704
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: the constraints I've been through. But at the end of

705
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: the day, we all face roadblocks in our lives. And

706
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: I really believe and you know this about me, like

707
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: you can take any of them away if you just try,

708
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: and if you put a plan together, right. My horses

709
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: has been really about thinking about what the plan is. Right.

710
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: So if I don't have enough money, okay, what is

711
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: my plan to have enough money? Right? It's not about

712
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: giving up on the dream, it's about planning for it. Yeah,

713
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: and let's let's dive into that. When when when you

714
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: were writing this book, I remember we talked about the

715
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: word constraints Salon, Yeah, and limits is the word? Are

716
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: constraints real? No? I mean that's really what I want

717
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: people to see is that you can find a way

718
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: through across any tree that's fallen in the forest, right,

719
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 1: especially if you know your true north. It's really about

720
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: finding your way through it. It is not about stopping

721
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: at the tree and then stopping going to where you

722
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: want to go. And I think that's really what people

723
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: need to see, is how do I maneuver my way

724
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: to not lose track of where I want to go?

725
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: And they don't, they don't exist, they really don't. And

726
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: you can really find a way to work through it.

727
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: You need to do a lot of self reflection, understand

728
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: how you work and then go and do it. Action, right,

729
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: is really the best way to move forward. Yeah. And

730
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: what are the biggest mistakes you think when we make plans?

731
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: Because I love this topic. Yeah, because I was sharing

732
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: with everyone recently when I was on the Today Show

733
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 1: for at the beginning of the year, I was saying

734
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 1: to everyone that we need to shift from goal setting

735
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: to growth setting. Yeah. So we keep setting these big goals.

736
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: I want to do this, I want to be this,

737
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: but it's like the growth like what skills do I need?

738
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: What's my plan? What's my approach? Like that's what you

739
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: should be focused on. It's like saying I want to

740
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: do a podcast with Pile and you can have that

741
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: as a goal, but it's like, whoa have we thought

742
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: about what we need to build a podcast? We need

743
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: to start? Yeah, so walk us through what are the

744
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: mistakes we make when we create plans? Or do we

745
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: even create plans, because I'm not sure we do. I

746
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: think we just set these plans. The whole well, the

747
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: whole last third of this book is the Life Past Method,

748
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: which is my I call goal setting method. But really

749
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: what it comes down to is these itty bitty goals

750
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: which are so minute that they do not feel big

751
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 1: at all. But like you said, it's about getting started

752
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: and the way I've thought about it and it helps

753
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: to solve a lot of the problems. Is I first

754
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: start with you reflecting, because you need to know where

755
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: you are today before you start setting goals. And a

756
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: lot of times we start setting goals without really taking

757
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: stock of where we are today. So that's sort of

758
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: mistake one, right. Then the second one is I go

759
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: into a dream mode, right, which is what do I

760
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: want to do and do be in a year? But

761
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: that is not about check marks like I'm going to

762
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: run a marathon and buy a house and all these

763
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: big things like you just said, I like to anchor

764
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: them in words, in feelings. How do I want to

765
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: feel in a year that, because that's something I can

766
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: you know, can really put intention behind right and put

767
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: into my body. I can go back to and feel

768
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: like am I going towards that or not? Where you know,

769
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: like I said, running a marathon is just a check

770
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: mark in our live Then the next part of it

771
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: to me, and this is because I'm super analytical and

772
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: like love time, I think people really need to think

773
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: about where they spend their time. So this whole next

774
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: part about focusing. You can set goals in every aspect

775
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: of your life all the time, it's never going to

776
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: work right. You're never going to be able to make

777
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 1: an impact on every aspect of your life. You're probably

778
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: going to end up failing and then being able to

779
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: feel like you can't do anything. So my structure in

780
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: the third step is really all about focusing in on

781
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: three to five areas of your life that you can

782
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: focus on right. And so that might be like, Okay,

783
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: my family, some friends and work right, and you get

784
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: to the point once you're there, and then like the

785
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: last part of this and this is I think what

786
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: I feel like I've done really well throughout my life

787
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 1: is I know how to set the goal right, because

788
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: it's all it's not even a goal, like you said,

789
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: it's really about the action you need to take to

790
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: get to where you want to go. And you know,

791
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: pretend you want to go and learn tennis, right, a

792
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: lot of people would be like, yeah, okay, I'm going

793
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: to play tennis, and the whole year will go by

794
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: and they'll never sign up. It literally comes down to

795
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: maybe it's take one hour to get on to the

796
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 1: internet and search for three instructors near you, find reviews

797
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: on them, sign up for one class. Even if you

798
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: don't go to the class in that three month area

799
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 1: that you're doing this exercise, you're still making progress because

800
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: you at least are getting closer to doing that first class,

801
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: right because until you actually go and show up to

802
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: that first lesson, you haven't gotten anywhere in that goal.

803
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: And I think that's what people forget. And there's a

804
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 1: lot of mistakes. You you know, people don't share their goals.

805
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: I think you should always be so proud of what

806
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: you want to do. You'd be so surprised how much

807
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: your friends and family will support you if they know

808
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: what you really want to accomplish in your life. So

809
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: it's I mean, I have a lot of that. I know.

810
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: That's yeah, Yeah, it was a loaded question because it is.

811
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: But I, like you said, I do think people make

812
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes here. And it's really like I said,

813
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: and this is, you know, one way of thinking about it.

814
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: It really comes down to having a practice for yourself

815
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: of how do I look inward, focus myself and then

816
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,479
Speaker 1: set goals and feel the confidence of I said these goals,

817
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: I did it. Okay, great, let's set bigger goals next time. Right.

818
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: You can only get to the bigger goal if you

819
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: start with a smaller step and fulfill that. When you

820
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: have a dream and it feels really big, the question

821
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: is what's the smallest thing I can do right now? Right?

822
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: Like what's the what's the first thing? And that's what

823
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: you just broke down. It was like I want to

824
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: blay tennis every day or every this year, but it's like,

825
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: let me just find an instructive and that's very achievable,

826
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: right right. And I think that's the point that I

827
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: remember sitting down with a friend once and he really

828
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: wanted to direct theater shows and I was like, that's

829
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: a big goal, and we literally just broke it down

830
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: to the tiniest thing he could do today, Like that's

831
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: and it's literally like with something like that, I think

832
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: I have it in my book. It's like even watch

833
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: three three plays? Yes, yeah, right, Like I know it's weird,

834
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: but it's like watching three plays and actually it's funny, right.

835
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: I think you you've talked about this a lot. Sometimes

836
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: people think like watching stuff that we enjoy, it's part

837
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: of your goals too, right, So a lot of times

838
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: when would be like, oh, that's like leisure or time,

839
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: I don't have time to watch the plays. But no,

840
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: you just put it as a partner of your plan

841
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: towards your goals. So in a way, sometimes doing these

842
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: processes of setting goals, it makes you also realize, like

843
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: the reason you're inclined to watch that movie, it's because

844
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: you need a inspiration right now in your life. And

845
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: that is still like fulfilling. It is not about you

846
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: being like lazy, right, And I think that's that I

847
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: never feel lazy, even when I'm like chilling. I think

848
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: we talk about this a lot, is like sometimes we

849
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: need that time, right, and that's like a part of

850
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: scheduled time in a way that I know I need

851
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: to replenish. I never think of it as I'm being lazy.

852
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: I mean, our times are so busy, but I think

853
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: we have to think about what we need, not just

854
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: professionally and not just to like an obligation of other people.

855
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: It's also what we need to keep moving forward. Yes, definitely, definitely.

856
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: And that's what what I find so fascinating about what

857
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: you just said, is that we get lost in just

858
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: how big it is and it feels so heavy. Yeah,

859
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: and it feels so far and it feels so out

860
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: of reach that we just give up, right and I'll

861
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: give an example of something right now. So I'm at

862
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 1: a stage where we're growing and I really want to

863
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: be a good leader and that's something that's new to

864
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: me in this world of work. If I was a

865
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: leader in the monastery, it was different to being a

866
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: leader here. And so my goal is to read a

867
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: chapter a day of this book that I've been reading

868
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: called The Culture Code, which is just a phenomenal book

869
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: about that, and I've been doing that. When I was

870
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: reading your book, I was feeling like I was growing

871
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 1: in so many entrepreneurial ways. I was sitting here reading

872
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: Life Pass when you send it to me in advance,

873
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh wow, like this is what

874
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: I need to do with people, and this is what

875
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 1: I need to do with time. And so your goal

876
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: right now, if you have a passion, just read Life

877
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: Pass like literally, like though genuinely that can be as

878
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: simple as it is. Like you may say I've got

879
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: a passion, I have a goal. I want to build

880
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: it into something real. And when we say something real,

881
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: it could be it doesn't have to be a billion

882
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: Dollar company. It could mean something that takes care of

883
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: me and my family, right, Like, it can be that,

884
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: but then apply what you're learning here, and your goal

885
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: right now could just be I'm going to read a

886
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: chapter of this book a day, I'm going to read

887
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 1: a chapter a week, I'm going to read a chapter

888
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: a month. And you break that down like that, you're

889
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: going to start seeing these mindsets get into your psychology.

890
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: And that's really what we're talking about, is that it's

891
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: psychological change exactly. It's about creating a habit of doing

892
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: this right. It's not about doing this once. Nothing's going

893
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: to happen. If you know, we all always talk about

894
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: that you can't do something once. It's about building a

895
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: practice about how you also can trust yourself. Right, how

896
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: do you get into a place where this becomes about

897
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: you being excited about it? No? You know, goal setting

898
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: lists should be a to do list, right, Nothing in

899
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: your life should feel like a to do list. It

900
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: should feel exciting, like it's moving you forward. But you're

901
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: the only person who can tell yourself that. Yeah, let's

902
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: talk a bit about Zane. It was his it was

903
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: his second birthday, Yeah, last weekend, I know, and he's

904
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: so grown up. I mean, he is so grown up

905
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: watching him grow over the last two years. Yeah, you've

906
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 1: you've had you know, because of the pandemic. It's great

907
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: that he's happening. Yeah, And I felt like the last

908
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: three months he grew even more because I didn't see

909
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: it because I was just like, what does that he's

910
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: so tall? That let's talk about what you're learning through motherhood,

911
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: because I think that that's a new chapter in your life.

912
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: It's a new new chapter, a new space, a new

913
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: move for you. And it's like that requires different growth.

914
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: I mean, what are you learning personally from motherhood that

915
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: you think you didn't learn from other things. I mean,

916
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: nothing prepares you for motherhood until you become a mother.

917
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 1: And obviously there's a lot of changes that happened because

918
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: COVID happened right when he was born. But I think

919
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: outside of that, what I've had to really just be

920
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: conscious of once again my time, which I always was,

921
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: but even more so, I think it was easier when

922
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: you know, I would feel guilty or not feel guilty

923
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: about like going to an event or something. It's really

924
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: hard when you're like, oh, I don't want to spend

925
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: time with my baby. You know, so there's there's hard times,

926
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: but I love what I do. I think it's made

927
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: it more important for me to love the work I do,

928
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: right because I will always be an ambitious woman and

929
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: I want to you know, I really think it's so

930
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: important for women to know they can always be ambitious

931
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: at any point in their life. You have to build

932
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: a support structure around That is another thing I've learned. Right,

933
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: Like this is you know, me and Nick talking. Nick

934
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: is my husband, you know, is me and him talking

935
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: about like what support structure do I need? Right? Like

936
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: we have this book coming out. It was that's why,

937
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: like my family is here everyone because I'm like, what,

938
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: you need support in order to do these things in

939
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: our lives. And I think a lot of time, especially

940
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: as women, we don't always know how to ask for help.

941
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: And you know, a baby is a twenty four seven

942
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: job and they're great, you know, but you need to

943
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: be able to also know how to take care of yourself,

944
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: do the things that you still love, or you will

945
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: be you know completely, you know, just doing one thing

946
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: the whole time. And I think that's it's obviously you

947
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 1: have to figure out your choice on that and then

948
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: the last thing is like I think a lot of

949
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: it comes down to also figuring out with expectations of society.

950
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: I do think like there's a lot of things that

951
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: still happen to mothers, you know, feeling like you should

952
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: be doing this and that, and maybe that's a blessing

953
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: of COVID is. I just like wasn't around society that much.

954
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: So I think I just got to develop my own

955
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: bond with my son in my way, you know, I

956
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: wasn't around anyone else to be like is this the

957
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: right way or wrong way? And I think, you know,

958
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: I get I feel like a kid with him. I

959
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: think that's like my favorite favorite thing is you just

960
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: play with him, you know, and it's just it's just

961
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: really beautiful to experience the world through his eyes. You know.

962
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: It's beautiful to watch you guys together, Like I love

963
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: seeing Zane, Like I want to run away to you

964
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: all the time. But it's like what I think is

965
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: really healthy is you know. I was on I was

966
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: on Chelsea Handler's podcast last week and she does this

967
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: segment where she invites people on from an audience to

968
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: talk through their challenges. And someone came on and they

969
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: were just being an honest, mum, Like they're just being

970
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: honest and saying, look, I love my kid, but I'm

971
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: really struggling to find time for myself. I feel like

972
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: I'm losing myself, like I'm losing my identity. And I

973
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: was just like I was so happy to hear that

974
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: honesty and that vulnerability and even what you're saying today,

975
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: it's like I still have to have my like I

976
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: still have to find a way because I love my child,

977
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: but I still have me. Yeah, And you know, when

978
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: I see Zane and it's like he loves music and

979
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: he loves dancing, and it's like he obviously when he

980
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: watches you is in the other day, I think I

981
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: was I had saw rehearsal and he came into my

982
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: studio and then my mom was like, what was mama

983
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: doing in the in you know? And he calls in

984
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: my office and he starts dancing. You know, he's like

985
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: you know because and I'm like, I'm really happy because

986
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up with that, right, I didn't grow

987
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 1: up with someone being creative always around me and thinking

988
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: like that's a way to live. And I was thinking

989
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: about that, like I want him to feel like he

990
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: could be anything in his life right and not force

991
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: him to sort of live by a certain standard or

992
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: a certain path. And I think that's really beautiful, and

993
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: you know, I think in general for women, and you know,

994
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: and I obviously I think these last two years were

995
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: personally actually harder for me because I had to work

996
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: through these things and I haven't had to work work

997
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: myself out of expectations and out of sort of structures

998
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: the world and so long. Like I started Class West

999
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: ten years ago, I was in it, and I remember

1000
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: going back to an actually in a weird way, like

1001
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: as I was writing this book, it all was coming

1002
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: back to me too where I was ten years ago,

1003
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: to be like, wow, I need to break these boundaries

1004
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: again on expectations and I hadn't gone through that in

1005
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: a while, So just kind of going back to that,

1006
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: going back to a sense of the center right because

1007
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 1: I was on such a strong momentum my whole life,

1008
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: and then I had a kid and I just realized

1009
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: I had to like rethink so much and recenter right.

1010
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: And so in a weird way, my own book even

1011
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: helped me. You know. I think that's like the beauty

1012
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 1: of these books is when you're writing them, they give

1013
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 1: back to you. And I remember moments, especially in the past,

1014
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: you know, a few years where I was like, wow,

1015
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: I remember the feeling of where I was ten years ago,

1016
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: and sometimes I feel like I'm right back there and

1017
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 1: I have to I'm going through all of this again.

1018
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 1: And I think that's why it's so important to realize

1019
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: this is a muscle to work through constraints. It is

1020
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: not and it's a mindset, right. It is not about Okay,

1021
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it once and it's gone. You have

1022
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 1: to constantly work through it. And if you really care enough,

1023
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 1: which is what we started with, then you will find

1024
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: a way. I love it and and that's why I

1025
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: think there's a book that people can read again and

1026
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: again and again, because, like you said, as soon as

1027
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: you finish something or complete something, it's incredible how the

1028
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: constraints just come rushing back heast phase of life and

1029
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: we keep putting new limits wherever we get to. And

1030
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: that's why when you're saying to us to drop your

1031
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: limits and rise to your particular like, that's something that

1032
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: we're going to do again and again and again. And

1033
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: so whether you're someone at the start of your journey

1034
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 1: or whether you're someone who's had some success and achievement

1035
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: and then you're trying to find your way. You know

1036
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: this book Life Past will actually help you in all

1037
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: areas of that because it's the same thing we keep

1038
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: going through again and again and again. Pile you are amazing.

1039
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful. I am hoping that each and every

1040
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: single person goes and grabs a copy of Life Pasts.

1041
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: It's available right now. We will put the link in

1042
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: the comments. Go and order your copy, order one for

1043
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: a friend. I also think it's just so One of

1044
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: the things that I loved when I moved here is

1045
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: that we've built such a beautiful community of South Asians

1046
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: in LA who've connected with each other just through genuine

1047
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: friendship and family. And I feel so you know, grateful

1048
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: to have that have that feeling, because it's always nice

1049
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: being around people who shared that culture and share that

1050
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: heritage with you, even though we grew up in different countries,

1051
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: and you know, to see you doing so well and

1052
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: to see you sharing your story, and I know that

1053
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: it just comes from a place of wanting to help people. Yeah,

1054
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: And that's and that's why I'm recommending this book so much,

1055
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: is because I know that in your heart, it's like

1056
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: you only wrote it to help people, Like that's the

1057
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: only reason I know that this journey of writing this

1058
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: book is hard. Yeah, writing your book is not easy.

1059
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: And you had a baby at the same time, and

1060
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: it's you and you're doing so many other things, and

1061
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: so I know that you broughte this book only to

1062
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: help people to go. Yeah. I just want people the

1063
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: same way with class Pass, It's it's an extension of that, right,

1064
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: it is an extension of the vision of class Pass,

1065
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: with helping people fight through anything in their life to

1066
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: live their dream. And I feel like I have done that,

1067
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: and I feel like I'm still doing that and I

1068
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: never want any anything to stand in anyone's way. I

1069
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: love that. Pile. These are your final fi which are

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Speaker 1: our rapid fire around. So you have to answer in

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Speaker 1: one word or one sentence, max Ka, all right, Pile Lizzie.

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Speaker 1: A final five question Naber One, what is the best

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Speaker 1: advice you ever received? Best advice to bet on myself?

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Speaker 1: What is the worst advice you ever received? To stop dancing?

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Speaker 1: I can't believe anyone ever said that. That's amazing, all right.

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Speaker 1: Third question, how would you define your current purpose to

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Speaker 1: create timeless things. Oh, I love that. That's beautiful, all right.

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Speaker 1: Question number four, what is something you used to value

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Speaker 1: that you no longer value. I used. I know this

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Speaker 1: sounds funny because it's a sense of home. Like I

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Speaker 1: think I've learned to not value. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: don't value things like I just value. I value like

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Speaker 1: dance so much, especially in COVID. And I know now

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing one sentence, but I think COVID just

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Speaker 1: made me realize how much it's not necessarily about you know,

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Speaker 1: the environment. It's about having like the space to do

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Speaker 1: what you love. I love that. And fifth and final question,

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Speaker 1: if you could create one law that everyone in the

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Speaker 1: world had to follow, what would it be? Don't ever

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Speaker 1: sit at your desk for eight hours? Move, move, dance, play,

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Speaker 1: do something. I love that everyone piled Caduci. The book's

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Speaker 1: name is Life Pass. Go grab your copies. Make sure

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Speaker 1: make sure you tag meat and Pile on Instagram. Make

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Speaker 1: sure you go and follow her if you don't already,

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Speaker 1: And let us know what resonated, what connected. This was

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Speaker 1: a phenomenal episode, and I can't wait to see what

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Speaker 1: you do next. Pile. I'm so excited and grateful to

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Speaker 1: have you in our life, and I know that this

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Speaker 1: is just the beginning of a new chapter, so thank you,

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Speaker 1: appreci