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Speaker 2: It is the O G S.

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Speaker 1: two thousand draft in a choke hold.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, I ain't gonna say I wouldn't. I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: Uh obviously happy to have q rich D Miles leading

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Speaker 1: of the Knuckleheads podcast, which is elite. If you haven't

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Speaker 1: We appreciate y'all coming on here.

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Speaker 4: Already. We had to pull up Gez.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, we have the We have the two

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Speaker 1: here we go. We got some video of the Knuckleheads.

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Speaker 1: But when you guys did when you guys did that,

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Speaker 1: I mean obviously as a rookie, you're trying to get

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Speaker 1: Why did it not work?

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Speaker 2: Yea, man, we ain't had the right type of ownership.

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Speaker 5: If we had Steve Bama, who they got now, we

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Speaker 4: Now, the Lakers had their own practice, so they.

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Speaker 2: I love watching them winning them games. Crazy.

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Speaker 5: We played our dudes in there, like shout out Steve

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Speaker 4: I don't say like we started celebrating. We're not the

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Speaker 2: But we're seeing it elevate.

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Speaker 4: To now seeing how the the younger guys and everybody

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Speaker 2: We put something in the game that we need. Especially

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Speaker 4: Made it fun because, like I say, nobody else in

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Speaker 4: part of the head bands, baggy shorts, we're part of

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, the charately, the celebration that was for

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Speaker 5: The craziest part of that though, is like, like you said,

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Speaker 5: we got drafted in two thousand, it's twenty four, you

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Speaker 2: Like them doing the joint.

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Speaker 5: From like grades or send d you know, they could

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Speaker 5: send videos on social media not so it just be like, yo,

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Speaker 5: you we really had a whole fucking lot of people

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Speaker 5: about the Asians, it be people from overseas everything. It's

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Speaker 5: just like, yo, that's crazy to know did it really

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I had a movement, bro. The team was a

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Speaker 6: vibe too. Yeah, y'all had a movement, Like they had

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Speaker 6: a Fab five had their movement in college, Like y'all

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Speaker 6: Like I said, the Bagger show us the head man,

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Speaker 5: The only team like that at that point, Like you're

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Speaker 4: That's why he's the youngest team ever.

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Speaker 1: Well for people though, like they are watching us, like

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is dope, right, and y'all were

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Speaker 6: We ain't listening to Nate. Nate told me he was

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Speaker 2: What you said?

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Speaker 5: Like when he brought up like we knew Deshaun Stevenson

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Speaker 5: we would when we played each other, we would hang

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Speaker 2: He was like, Yo, Coach Loan, don't.

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Speaker 4: Fuck with that.

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Speaker 5: She like he told everybody like, nah, nah, I don't

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Speaker 2: Like that.

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Speaker 4: You know, Coach Loan with all schools.

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Speaker 6: Shots, y'all had the baggage. He coach stocked them in

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Speaker 1: They were a bitch to play though. Those guys, oh no,

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Speaker 1: they could play the stocking Malone. That was the most

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Speaker 6: But that's we talking about apples, about these boys with

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Speaker 6: cutters and old heads. Think that about that about had passed.

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Speaker 2: We got into a car Malone and old and Polony.

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Speaker 6: I remember when we used to play against Carl Malone,

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Speaker 6: you used to say the sky report is protect yourself?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the first thing on the scout reports. Calbl

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Speaker 5: Protect yourself. Yeah, all the front and he was concussed. Yes,

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Speaker 4: We left.

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Speaker 1: That makes it interesting because obviously we're all aware the

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Speaker 1: game's changed the physicality game. So come out of East

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Speaker 1: Saint Louis not going to school. You said you're not

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Speaker 1: going to college, fucking right, What was your concerns going

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Speaker 1: then even right but being in high school being eighteen

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Speaker 4: Told him I wasn't gonnaut. I seen with Shard Lewis

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Speaker 4: that spooked me. I remember that that that that spooked me.

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Speaker 4: But when when when my coaches and my AU coach

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Speaker 4: called me. It was like, yeah, you lottery, So I'm

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Speaker 4: you know, we all were really hi. I mean, Leson

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Speaker 1: Let workout. By the way, that was an elitt workout.

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Speaker 2: It was going down the hell of a workout.

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Speaker 4: But I was just trying to just go super hard

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Speaker 1: I call my agentcy Man like if Orlando serius by draft,

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Speaker 1: I'm fucking white guy, get it. But I have no

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00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,359
Speaker 1: problem going to the action. And the next workout we

442
00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,760
Speaker 1: come back, it's this group. I'm like, oh, ships about

443
00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,240
Speaker 1: to be So you went back for another way. I

444
00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:13,720
Speaker 1: had to work my second workout and it was with

445
00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,440
Speaker 1: these guys, and it was it was in the action

446
00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,600
Speaker 1: and we were ones. We were twesday.

447
00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,680
Speaker 2: New Jersey had the number one pick.

448
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,720
Speaker 4: And now my stockton kind of went up because you know,

449
00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,480
Speaker 4: I'm the prototype six nine and dribble do all the stuff.

450
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,040
Speaker 4: So I had they wanted me to do a workout

451
00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,399
Speaker 4: so Q was there, so he was like, me and

452
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 4: Q stayed together that whole summer. So I see him

453
00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,280
Speaker 4: pass and coming through because he got to go to workouts.

454
00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,679
Speaker 4: I be there in Chicago just working out. So me

455
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,120
Speaker 4: and Q worked out together. We went so hard at

456
00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,400
Speaker 4: each other where the dude was like, y'all, shure, y'all,

457
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,160
Speaker 4: like you did y'all come and we just put our

458
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,359
Speaker 4: bags on, just limp out together and hopped in the

459
00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 4: whip together. But we went so hard at each other,

460
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,240
Speaker 4: like like we didn't even know each other.

461
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,640
Speaker 2: That's how that is supposed to be there.

462
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,679
Speaker 1: And it was just like it's funny now because I'm

463
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,120
Speaker 1: an agent, so when I go through, like I don't

464
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,639
Speaker 1: know if there's a right or wrong answer, but my

465
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,520
Speaker 1: biggest single all my guys, let's go get the action.

466
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,719
Speaker 1: Like we're trying to protect nobody. Nothing that you got

467
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,119
Speaker 1: to buy somebody at some point and if you if

468
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 1: you really put the work in and you're ready to

469
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,440
Speaker 1: do it, like, let's go do it. Yeah, that's a

470
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 1: funny story because that work I was that went over.

471
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 4: She's we did we want to go matter for the country?

472
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 1: Yes, we did.

473
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 5: Between between singing freshman year, going to college. Jim behin bro.

474
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,920
Speaker 5: None of y'all will believe Jim behein fucking crazy.

475
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 1: What Midler man?

476
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 2: He was on his ass listen crazy.

477
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 3: He put me in like the four to five talking

478
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 3: about I couldn't go. You want him to dribble? He

479
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 3: did not want miler. Look, Mike took that bit you

480
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 3: gotta came out. He's like, what the fuck is this?

481
00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 3: When you're fucking going.

482
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 4: Behind your back with that South Dakota playground.

483
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 1: I was like, what the.

484
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 4: He wasn't cutting no ship, but I was crazy, but

485
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 4: I didn't believe it was like that was like, you know,

486
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:13,719
Speaker 4: you see somebody.

487
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 5: I just like, I don't know what I thought of him.

488
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 5: I didn't think he was like that. He was that

489
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 5: motherfucker boy. Practices was crazy, practice, hard as a bitch,

490
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 5: and he yelling and going nuts the whole time.

491
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 2: I had no clue the whole time.

492
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 1: I had him on my ship lift because he told

493
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,360
Speaker 1: me that time he said, man, you have to play

494
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,199
Speaker 1: the four because you can't play the two or the three.

495
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 1: I said, gosh, damn, I said, you watch.

496
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,679
Speaker 2: Anythil Damn, you ain't think you can anything.

497
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 1: I could do.

498
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 4: Ship hit it bro.

499
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 5: It was like he chose Mike, I'm gonna yell at

500
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 5: him all the time.

501
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,199
Speaker 4: That was how it was.

502
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,919
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, I think he looked at I

503
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 1: think you looked at the geography maps.

504
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 5: That ship was crazy. But I had no clue that

505
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 5: behind was crazy like that. That was the thing that

506
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,439
Speaker 5: that ship threw me off. I was like, didn't I

507
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 5: didn't see this. I didn't see it.

508
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 2: Either, And all people we started sucking with you don't

509
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 2: bother nobody, yo, I don't crazy.

510
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 6: You don't bother nobody. That's crazy. I got one thing

511
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 6: for you, d mouse. So explain to the people at

512
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 6: home the difference between Saint Louis and East Saint Louis

513
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 6: where you're from. People get that shit confused. You need

514
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 6: to understand that's a difference. I got people of East

515
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 6: Saint Louis.

516
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 2: I wanna get to it.

517
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,439
Speaker 4: I rebbed both sides of the water because I was

518
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 4: on both sides of the water. But I'm from East

519
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 4: Saint Louis, which East Saint Louis is Illinois and Saint

520
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 4: Louis is Missouri. Only thing divided is a bridge in

521
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 4: the Mississippi River. So a lot of people you know

522
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 4: when they come down, they be like, don't go to

523
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 4: the east side because it's like a mini Vegas and

524
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 4: don't close to like six in the morning type stuff.

525
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 4: And you know it's eighty nine blocks, three different ways

526
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 4: of just all hood. Yeah many Vegas is like right

527
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 4: lights and yeah, don't get confused.

528
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 2: But it ain't like you can walk around on the strip,

529
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 2: like like it don't close.

530
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 4: So you know, if you go to Saint Louis and

531
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 4: you go out or you in your night life and stuff,

532
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 4: Saint Louis close at two East Saint Louis, don't close

533
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 4: to like some stuff closed at six, some stuff closed

534
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 4: at ten in the morning. Like so you can go

535
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 4: out to East Saint Louis and come out the spot

536
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 4: in this daylight outside, I don't.

537
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 6: Want no action, or you can come out and get

538
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 6: your ass tied up. Until that part of the story,

539
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 6: tell us what the hell they got to watch out foot?

540
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 4: Tell if you're from around now, you don't supposed to

541
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 4: be around here.

542
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 6: There is that you're from around there, you don't be talking,

543
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 6: don't be hanging out in Saint Louis. And then late

544
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 6: night you'd be like, oh we go af after hours

545
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 6: we're gonna cross the bridge, you're gonna hang out, and

546
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 6: you ain't from there, don't do that.

547
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 4: It's two different states, and a lot of people don't

548
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 4: know that's two different states. And you know, when I

549
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 4: started being somebody knowing worldwide, they used to be like, yeah,

550
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 4: you're from Saint Louis. So I had to stop. I

551
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 4: used to always correct people, So I had to stop

552
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 4: really kind of correcting people, because then it's like I

553
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 4: got to explain to you, like I'm from Illinois, I

554
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 4: ain't from Missouri.

555
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm from East South Dakota.

556
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 6: I think all that's got the same amount of violence.

557
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 2: East side, west side, back east side.

558
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 4: If you're from the east side, you didn't mess with

559
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 4: Saint Louis. And if you from Saint Louis, you didn't

560
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 4: mess with the east side. It was more a little tense,

561
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 4: but it's it's still like that, but it's it's a

562
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 4: little That was what I remember.

563
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 5: When he first, when I first met him, he's he's

564
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 5: off that Saint Louis shit, but kind of came together.

565
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 2: At some point. I was just I was just witnessing it.

566
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 6: N I got people in he said, Louis, that ship

567
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 6: real boy, that ship real. It ain't tho joke and

568
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 6: you're from the shot. So we already understand all every

569
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 6: everything that's going on in Chicago. We pick up the

570
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 6: paper every day, you know what I'm saying. It's almost

571
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 6: every other day it's something, you know, gun violence and

572
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 6: different things going on in Chicago. So I mean we've

573
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 6: all experienced that growing up on some shape, form or fashion.

574
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 6: It's affected us, you know what I'm saying, in different ways,

575
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 6: whether it be homeboys or whatever the situation, but I

576
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 6: know it's affected you personally, you know what I'm saying.

577
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 6: And you just want to talk about how gun violeus

578
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 6: has affected you. I mean all of us has been

579
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 6: in situations where we had to go to funerals a

580
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 6: little too early, you know what I'm saying. So we

581
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 6: don't play with guns, you know what I'm saying. I

582
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 6: don't play those games. Yes I do Tote five, but

583
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 6: I ain't pull it it out just to show it

584
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 6: and play with it. And it's not a game. A

585
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 6: gun is not a toy. A gun is not a toy,

586
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So let's just talk about

587
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 6: how gun violence has affected Obviously you. You know what

588
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 6: I'm saying personally, man, me losing two brothers. First one

589
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 6: my brother Bernard when I was twelve. You know, you twelve,

590
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 6: you don't really understand everything.

591
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 5: Then my brother Lee, who was I was really close with,

592
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 5: and that was when I was in the league, when

593
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 5: I was with the Knicks, Right Knicks twenty five. So

594
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying then, that one you understand

595
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 5: stuff more. You are more of adult, you know what's

596
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 5: going on. That one probably hurt more than my brother Bernard,

597
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 5: just because I was younger, But like, just understanding that

598
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 5: does how go?

599
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 2: Man in the hood.

600
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 5: He wasn't into no gag or nothing. He was just

601
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 5: in the wrong place at the wrong time. They were

602
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 5: trying to steal his car and mys was actually with him.

603
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 5: So that's the crazy part. Like when it happened, my

604
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 5: pops could like my pops had a bullet through his

605
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 5: through his jacket oil because like you know, they had

606
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 5: him on the ground, both of them on the ground,

607
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 5: and my brother was like nah, and he just got

608
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 5: up and he took the gun from one of them.

609
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 5: But when he was doing that, the other one shot

610
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 5: and so like that's what happened. But like that's just

611
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 5: the shot, bro, Like real talk in the hundreds on

612
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 5: the block. Just he wasn't doing nothing. He went in

613
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 5: the garage, came out, they had the trap on him,

614
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 5: drew on them already waiting on him, and so shit,

615
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 5: that's how it went down.

616
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 6: I mean, obviously I've been to you know, way too

617
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 6: many funerals, but I think, you know, obviously, I think

618
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 6: when it comes to you know, those situations and all

619
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 6: that growing up. I think for us, you know what

620
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 6: I'm saying, it's always a it's a slippery slope because

621
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 6: you gotta go back, you gotta you know what I'm saying.

622
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 4: You gotta bring your people out. You know what I'm saying.

623
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 4: I was always talking.

624
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 6: When I make it, you come back and you pull

625
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 6: your people out of you extending hand to your people.

626
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 6: But it ain't always safe in the hood, man. I

627
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 6: just is this thing where sometime keeping it real go wrong.

628
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

629
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 6: You can have the best intentions, but like you said,

630
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 6: you can be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

631
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: Man. I got a lot of love in the city,

632
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 2: but it only take one knucklehead, that's it.

633
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 4: It only out you know, us coming out just being

634
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 4: from the hood. When Nipsey died, it made me, It

635
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 4: made me realize, like, man, the most safe I felt,

636
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 4: the most safest place for me was the most dangerous

637
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 4: place for me, because when I be in other cities

638
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 4: and stuff, I'm not going through their hoods. I don't

639
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 4: know nobody there. And then if I am, I'm with

640
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 4: somebody who certified. So I used to be in the

641
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 4: hood and in the hole in the wall spot or

642
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 4: or one way in, one way out spot and feeling

643
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 4: comfortable with that was the most dangerous place in the

644
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 4: world that I could I could be at. And once

645
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 4: I seen Nipsey die and it was just like, man,

646
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 4: he just got killed on something that he on his block,

647
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 4: all the people knowing, like everybody in East Saint Louis.

648
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 4: No if I don't know you, I know your mom

649
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 4: or your auntie or your cousin or your your brother.

650
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 4: But that's like the most dangerous spot for me to that,

651
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 4: And it had made me grow up a little bit

652
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 4: to be like it's okay to just go somewhere else

653
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 4: and live.

654
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: And that shit fucked me into all your life.

655
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 4: Ever after every season, I was going straight back to

656
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 4: East Saint Louis me too.

657
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 6: I'm still going straight back to the hood all the time.

658
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 6: And then when you probably go back to Chicago, it's

659
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 6: probably the same. You go tap in and you know,

660
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 6: maybe pull up on some of the homies. But at

661
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 6: the end of the day, and I agree with you,

662
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 6: that was It's weird. What you say is some of

663
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 6: those places with the places where we felt the most safe,

664
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 6: We felt the most at home and the most comfortable.

665
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 6: And everybody in that big got a gun, everybody, and

666
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 6: we found and we felt the most comfortable with those

667
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 6: around up. Yeah, that Nipsey thing that she opened my

668
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 6: eyes too. I ain't gonna even lie. And I didn't

669
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 6: know nip but to see him, you know what I'm saying,

670
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 6: get killed in his own hood when he was so

671
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 6: loved and so respected what he did for the community,

672
00:28:58,840 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 6: she opened up a lot of eyes.

673
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 4: Man.

674
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 5: So it's just a reminder, bro, Like you know what

675
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 5: I'm saying, we get we make the pro Like you say,

676
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 5: this ball did a lot of shit for us little

677
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 5: basketball and took us all around the world, gave us

678
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 5: crazy money and for us a lifestyle we never dreamed

679
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 5: we could have.

680
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, but.

681
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: Like, can't get caught slipping, you can't forget.

682
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, You gotta stay sharp, like

683
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like that's what that's what

684
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 5: that type of stuff do to you.

685
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: It give you a little.

686
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 5: Knock, like hey, this life things still lifing, bro. Like

687
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 5: I tell people all the time when they think, like, man,

688
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 5: you straight you made to use it, Like, hey, bro,

689
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 5: Like nothing about me making the NBA has ever impacted

690
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 5: or changed the fact that I'm still a real person.

691
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 5: I still put my pants on one leg at a time,

692
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 5: just like everybody else. And whatever happened to you can

693
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 5: damn sure happened to me. Don't think because we you know,

694
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 5: we NBA were on the TV and you nah, boy,

695
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 5: shit still real shit. We still got family members just

696
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 5: going through life that got shit going on. And you

697
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, People passed all of that, We

698
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 5: still get affected and impacted back regular every day.

699
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 4: Ship like everybody. And it's crazy to have a mentality

700
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 4: of like I say, the most dangerous place, that's.

701
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 2: Where you the most coming.

702
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 6: But I'll tell you I'll go to the club and

703
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 6: go straight to the back and put my back to

704
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 6: the wall and put everything in front of these and

705
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 6: I'm so comfortable in that. But I shouldn't have to

706
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 6: go put my back to the wall. But I got

707
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 6: my back. I'm having a blast, but I ain't even

708
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 6: thinking in my mind the fact that I had to

709
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 6: come to this motherfucker put my back to the wall

710
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 6: and make sure nothing behind me.

711
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: Probably be I should be there and something like.

712
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 4: Over the years, some of the most craziest things that

713
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 4: just could have went left, just could have went left.

714
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 4: That's why when I seen Nipsey, it was just like, man,

715
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 4: you know, I mean situations we was in or places

716
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 4: we was at, or we in the spot and somebody

717
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 4: got shot after the spot, or it was just it

718
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 4: was like, man, that could have been that could have

719
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 4: been like us, or something would have went left. Or

720
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 4: if them guys might not have been scared of who

721
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 4: I was and who I had with me, they probably

722
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 4: could have tried yeah, yeah, or anything. So, you know,

723
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 4: just for the future guys that come from through the hood,

724
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 4: it's it's okay to elevate. It's okay to to live

725
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 4: where you don't hear gunshots every night, or it's okay

726
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 4: where folks ain't getting robbed or selling drugs and doing

727
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 4: all that stuff.

728
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 6: So some good old g I would say, killer, you're

729
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 6: gonna touch on some of the drugs and violence in

730
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 6: South Dakota that you experienced.

731
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: Man, it was it was amazing. I made it out.

732
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: The basketball is amazing thing.

733
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: That life.

734
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: Speaking of basketball. So we fast forward to today, right

735
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: and we're talking about the state of the game where

736
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: we're at. There was just a big trade. Let's talk

737
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: about the Pascal Siakam to Indiana. Obviously with basketball dudes

738
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: on here want to touch on that. So does that

739
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: do anything different for them? Is Indiana in a situation

740
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: that they can they can now contend in the East?

741
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 4: No? Yes, I don't think it elevates them over the

742
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 4: Celtics or the seventy six ers or the Bucks. I

743
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 4: I feel like it it it then changed really really nothing,

744
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 4: you know. I maybe Keueld be wrong. I feel like

745
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 4: it was other spots out there that I I would

746
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 4: have was a better fit that would would you know,

747
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 4: shuffle the cars a little bit in one of the

748
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 4: spots I was I was cause hoping for it was Dallas.

749
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: I wanted to see like a player like him.

750
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 4: Play with Kyrie and lucasause I feel like since Luca

751
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 4: been there, he's never had that type of player play

752
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 4: with him. A versatile guy that can hit the three,

753
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 4: he can guard multiple positions. You need a guy that

754
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 4: can guard Lebron or Stay. You need a guy that

755
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 4: that you can match up with KD over there. And

756
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 4: I feel like he had been better in Dallas. But

757
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 4: I don't feel like it elevated the Pacers in a

758
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 4: crazy way.

759
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 5: I can see what he's saying, the fit in Dallas

760
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 5: or whatever, but I mean, I think it's a for me.

761
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 5: I think it's an upgrade for Indiana, Like, do it

762
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 5: does it put them ahead of Boston?

763
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: No, or ahead of you know, uh, the top teams

764
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 2: over there.

765
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 5: I don't think it puts them ahead of them, but

766
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 5: I think it puts them in a better position to compete.

767
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 5: I mean, you know what I'm saying. Pascal is everything

768
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 5: you just say versatile. He could play both sides of

769
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 5: the ball. He could play with throw itout the ball,

770
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 5: and then he's that guy that could you know he could.

771
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 2: He can.

772
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 5: He can square off against a KD and try and

773
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 5: defend them and try and equalize and do stuff like that.

774
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 5: So I like the move for him, But I don't

775
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 5: like like you said, I don't think it puts him

776
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 5: in a position where they better than you know, Boston,

777
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 5: But I do. I do think that it's an upgrade

778
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 5: for them, and you know it calls it. Some of

779
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 5: that stuff is gonna get moved around anyway, so you

780
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 5: might as well try and cash out and win something

781
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 5: when you're getting them. And I think, you know, I

782
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 5: think Pascal probably it sounds like he's gonna sign an extension,

783
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 5: and I think he'll be a good player for them

784
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 5: moving forward.

785
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 4: Miami too.

786
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: I already know. I already know where he sits because

787
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: I know his makeup.

788
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 4: I don't, I mean, but grade.

789
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: Before you go into it, because I know his makeup.

790
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: I already know where he's gonna go with that ship, right,

791
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: But it does like it is a good fit. It

792
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: is a good fit. They play fast, Alburton plays fast,

793
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: Passcal's elite transition like that. They are gonna be better,

794
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: They're gonna be tough to sue.

795
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 6: But don't play no fucking defense. I told you, don't

796
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 6: play no fucking defense, bro. Like, Okay, I get it,

797
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 6: and I get it. You know what I'm saying, And

798
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 6: it is an upgrade. And I like Pascal see. I

799
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 6: love the fact that you got a guy not only

800
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 6: can guard to Lebron, but then the guy that Lebron

801
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 6: got the guard on the other side, because a lot

802
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 6: of times you got a situation where you ask the

803
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 6: motherfucker to go out there and stop Braun, and then

804
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 6: Lebron go down in here and smoke cigarettes off on

805
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 6: defense because he ain't even got in the motherfucker that

806
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 6: that's you don't put out there.

807
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 2: Now he got all he going down.

808
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 6: Here smokes cigarettes on defense because the motherfucker he got

809
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 6: on offense and he hain't even got to worry about this.

810
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 2: One, you know what I'm saying.

811
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 6: So I love that, and I love the fact that

812
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 6: obviously Hallimurt can fucking pass that motherfucker. I love the

813
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 6: fact that se y'all can get out and fucking transition

814
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 6: and put up numbers. But if the philosophy is all

815
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 6: we gonna do is outscore motherfuckers, then all you are

816
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 6: is an updated version of Phoenix. You see what they want?

817
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 6: Damn my bad Rich. Yeah, you was only that way,

818
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 6: but you understand what I'm saying. You gotta be at

819
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 6: a guard some fucking body when you're getting the motherfucking

820
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 6: seven game series against Boston. Guess what, they could score

821
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 6: just as well as you, and they could fucking guard. Yeah,

822
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 6: and they could fucking guard. Or are you funking around

823
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 6: and you get locked in a series with a fucking

824
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 6: team like fucking Orlando who can fucking guard. But guess what,

825
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 6: maybe they're not where they need to be offensively right now?

826
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 6: What fun around to let him figure it out?

827
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 2: Figure it out?

828
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 6: Because now you're leaving it up the chance because you

829
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 6: ain't fucking guarding nobody, you know who.

830
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 4: I felt like I was just saying that with Miami,

831
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 4: like in the East, if he stayed in the East,

832
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 4: I felt like Miami was was was a spot that

833
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 4: he can be a game change of playing with Jimmy

834
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 4: and playing with band. Now that shuffle stuff up right there,

835
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 4: I mean, you get them. I feel like that was

836
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 4: a better spot for him. And that's I was just

837
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 4: looking for spots that was better for him, Like what

838
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 4: they get him? I don't know, speaking what does Miami

839
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 4: have to do, because Miami has to do something. Yeah,

840
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 4: But I thought like because they were screaming out Sacramento

841
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 4: for Harrison boards and I was like, they really ain't

842
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 4: gonna move the needle for Sacramento. No, I'm talking about Saka.

843
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 4: They was talking about he was finna get traded to Sacramento.

844
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 4: And I was like, all right, so if you trade

845
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 4: him for Harrison Voughn it was gonna feel like Indiana

846
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 4: with them, Like, yeah, of course they'll upgrade their team.

847
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 2: They'll be a good team.

848
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 4: But it really wouldn't have moved the needle to make

849
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 4: it for show Conference finals or for show push to

850
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 4: try to make a championship like Miami didn't prove that

851
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 4: they then did it, and they ain't had a versatile

852
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 4: guy like that in the minute, you know what I'm saying.

853
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 4: So I feel like if he went to Miami, yeah, nah,

854
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 4: that moves the needle.

855
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: Not not Celtics.

856
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 4: In everybody that they beat last year, or isn't it

857
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 4: they gotta look like, oh shit, they got another solid

858
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 4: one over there.

859
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: Like so Pascal's off market, You're here all the time,

860
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: you're the O G in Miami. What does Miami do?

861
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: Does that do anything?

862
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 4: Oh?

863
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think if I know the our

864
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 2: Father he up there, the Godfather like to go.

865
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 6: For the whales, he called them the whales. You know

866
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, it's always a well out there, you

867
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. So if he gonna make a move,

868
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 6: it's gonna be something big, you know what I'm saying.

869
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 6: I think that's how that's how he thinks. You know

870
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, those whales. I don't think bringing in

871
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 6: a role player per se helps. We got a lot

872
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 6: of those. We got a lot of dogs. We got

873
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 6: a lot of guys with dog mentalities. We got a

874
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 6: lot of guys that are fucking stars in their role.

875
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 6: We understand. We got guys who understand how to star

876
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 6: in their role. We have that already. But if he's

877
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 6: gonna make a move, we gotta be another whale, you

878
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. Like Pascal Siakam, You look at

879
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 6: that fucking lineup and you saying we got bamed at

880
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 6: of Bio, Jimmy Butler and Pascal Siakam and whatnot. You

881
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 6: fucked up in the head already. You already fucked up

882
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 6: in the head. So I'm who that's but my pay

883
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 6: grade killer. But they gotta make a move for show,

884
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 6: and it's gonna be a well. I think if I

885
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 6: know Rolese. He looked he looking for a Well, you

886
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, and.

887
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: You you're obviously working Orlando. That team has been fun, man. Yes,

888
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: my young boys, and it's gonna be interesting to see

889
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: what they do there because they have a lot of

890
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: young talent there. They're on the brink of it, like

891
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: they should be a playoff team this year. I think

892
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: they will be a playoff team this year. Do you

893
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: think they make any moves at the deadline.

894
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised because, I mean, you look at

895
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 5: you look at the landscape of the team, it's.

896
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 4: A lot of youth, it's a lot of We kind

897
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 4: of got a lot.

898
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 5: Of everything, you know what I'm saying, Like if we

899
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 5: were ever healthy at one time, you would really see

900
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 5: the depth to the team. But when you see that

901
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 5: type of like we got a lot of guards, a

902
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 5: lot of wings, you know what I'm saying. I don't know,

903
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 5: but I would expect that something is gonna happen. Somebody's

904
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 5: gonna get moved, and cause it's because I feel like

905
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 5: we got we even got guys in the G League,

906
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 5: like Jay Howard down in G League getting thirty.

907
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 2: Every other night and he's a bucket.

908
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 4: He's ready to play like the team, you.

909
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.

910
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 5: So it's like I feel like that they probably will

911
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 5: do something. I don't know what they'll do, but I

912
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 5: would imagine a wing or one of those guards maybe

913
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 5: could go and they trying to add something in the

914
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 5: front court or or or I don't know where they

915
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 5: add to, because I mean, we got we got like

916
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 5: a this is a weird space that I feel like

917
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 5: we because I've been you know, with the Magic since

918
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 5: I left left there playing and it's like this is

919
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 5: the finally, Like it's like we turning the corner. Bro

920
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 5: Like we're getting back to where our team is like

921
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 5: a solid, Like you're not coming in there and just

922
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 5: walking over them. Even when we go on the road,

923
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 5: our defense travels, we travel and we yes very least

924
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 5: we're gonna be competitive. We showing up to fight. You

925
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 5: see what I'm saying, Like that's what I love and

926
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 5: respect about our squad and what coach Mosey didn't put

927
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 5: together with them, because you know, you sit there watch

928
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 5: a couple of years ago, like shit coming there, thirtieth

929
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 5: twenty or thirt years You know what I'm saying, like now,

930
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 5: if he come there, you better have your shit tied

931
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 5: up tight because these boys is hooping.

932
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: They like, I don't give a fuck. Who are you

933
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 2: talking about? Whose names?

934
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 4: Is what happened?

935
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 2: Now as a team, we showing up and we're gonna

936
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: fucking fight.

937
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've done a great job there and got give

938
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: flowers to mos because coach job.

939
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 2: Dope.

940
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 5: Story about coach Mosey, right, he was my host my

941
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 5: senior year when I went on my visit to he

942
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 5: was at.

943
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 4: He was at Colorado, Colorado Buffalo's.

944
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 5: He was a senior that was the man on the team.

945
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 5: He was my host because Carlo Patty was the coach

946
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 5: that I went on the visit there, and like he

947
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 5: I think he had like a quick minute overseas. Then

948
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,959
Speaker 5: he came right back and started coaching in the league

949
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 5: assistant coach, and he didn't he didn't work his way

950
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 5: up man killing it and it was crazy like that,

951
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like I messed with him

952
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 5: all the time, like you.

953
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: Ain't do your job. You couldn't get me to Colorado And.

954
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: They got a Young Bowl over or Polow an All

955
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: Star this year.

956
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 2: That's the dude, that's he just talked about that that's

957
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 2: an automatical All.

958
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: Star this year. That's he's earned it, like he's done

959
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: an unbelievable job. Give me your Eastern Conference All Stars ship.

960
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: I got a list you want going bring it up?

961
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: We got receipts. While he's talking, what y'all got got pollow?

962
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: Yes or no?

963
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: Yes? I got?

964
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 4: I think so. But I feel like it's gonna be

965
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 4: it's gonna be super hard for him because it's other

966
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 4: guys that that's up there to get numbers. You know,

967
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 4: one of the guys that we were talking about earlier

968
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 4: that we didn't mention was Donovan Mitchell. You know, I

969
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 4: got it on my list, Like like I feel like

970
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 4: the top three teams are sending out two guys. You know,

971
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 4: you got Jalen and Tatum, you got embiiding Maxie, you

972
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 4: got Damon and and and Greek Free.

973
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: You can scrap Chris. This same goon ship.

974
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 6: Excuse me, disrespect the Saint gooon, but he got my votes.

975
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 6: To Paul George, this is the ship I'm talking about.

976
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 6: That's why I can't look at that terrible you got.

977
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 6: I can't look at that. I can't look at that

978
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 6: I got my list right here, God damn it.

979
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:39,959
Speaker 4: Twelve. Yeah, the East, my East.

980
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 6: I got Hallenburg, I got Bam, I got Embid, I

981
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 6: got Tatum, I got Brown, I got Giannis, I got Polo, Jimmy, Maxie,

982
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 6: Dame Brunson, and Spike.

983
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 4: Jimmy not gonna make it. I don't think Jimmy gonna

984
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 4: make I don't think he might not.

985
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 6: He might not get incause of the games. Yeah, I

986
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 6: think he might not get incause of the game. And

987
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 6: he don't give a funk either. He said that clear.

988
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: He said, I ain't gonna I don't give a fun

989
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: about no games trying to get it in the mother

990
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: that game. So that's what give it to me.

991
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: Give it to you a more time then, y'all, y'all

992
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: give me.

993
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 6: Your Okay, I had for my East, for my East,

994
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 6: I had Hallenburg, Bam and b Tatum, Brown, Joannis Paulo, Jimmy, Maxie,

995
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 6: Dame Brunson, and Spider. So now Jimmy might not get it.

996
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 6: Who's the last one, Mitchell Donovan? Okay, So Jimmy, Jimmy, y'all,

997
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 6: who gets it?

998
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 2: Dame In I got damn, I got dang, I got twelve.

999
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 4: I think that's I think polo. For him to make it,

1000
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 4: it's gonna probably come down to him, Ran Dull and

1001
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 4: Trey Young.

1002
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 5: Let me ask you, you know what I'm saying, giving

1003
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 5: him because I feel like Trey Young get disrespected.

1004
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 4: Why y'all think they don't fuck with Tray Young no more?

1005
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 6: I don't know, Danny, He's right up there with with

1006
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 6: Hallen Bird in assists, right. He's moving the ball, I

1007
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 6: think at second in the league. And since I'm just

1008
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 6: talking about like like, I like tre Young, I like

1009
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 6: Trey Young. He would have got a couple of people

1010
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 6: would have got in on my list, but I can

1011
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 6: only pick twelve. But I love what he's doing because

1012
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 6: he's sharing the ball. When he first came in the league,

1013
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 6: I think the knock on Tree Young was he wasn't

1014
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 6: making other people better. They can't say that no more.

1015
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 6: They cannot say he's not making other people better no more,

1016
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So I actually love I've

1017
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 6: seen the evolution of the maturation, you know what I'm saying.

1018
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 6: Haven't been around him in practice, you know what I'm saying.

1019
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 6: Herry might be a little tough to coach at time.

1020
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 6: I don't know all of that about him. What I

1021
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 6: see on the basketball court is he's figuring it out.

1022
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 6: He's figuring out how to make other people better, and

1023
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:31,959
Speaker 6: that's a skill, you know what I'm saying.

1024
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 4: But I feel like this ship with Orlando, man, they

1025
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 4: should have somebody represented.

1026
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: That's easy.

1027
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 4: The whole time.

1028
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: That's that's a lot.

1029
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 4: Kid is the dude, Like like you know how it is.

1030
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 5: He passed the eye test, bro, Like when you watch

1031
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 5: somebody and you see that game, like and then the

1032
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 5: thing I like about.

1033
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 4: Him is that.

1034
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: He like this.

1035
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 4: He don't get like himn't he don't get really.

1036
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 5: Caught up in nothing like I've been watching like damn,

1037
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 5: Like okay, like you gotta say something that that you

1038
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 5: do some ship like that or something like. But man,

1039
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 5: just just straight like this, just straight blank face about

1040
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 5: the bust show.

1041
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: Ass boy.

1042
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 4: We all and we all know this.

1043
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: He's the last four minutes of the game. He is

1044
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: a motherfucker.

1045
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 2: What did he make you feed him? Sixteen?

1046
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 4: Big kid and it's all muscles's solid. So I think

1047
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 4: I think he started the season off slow because they

1048
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 4: was playing so good and the way they was playing.

1049
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 4: But I love his aggression right now, Like how he

1050
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 4: playing right now. It's like he taking the initial like,

1051
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 4: all right, forget all that, this is my team. I'm

1052
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 4: leading this team.

1053
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: He You know it was though, because I was through

1054
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 1: the whole process, like USA basketball, I had him playing

1055
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: a different role. You know, USA basketball, you sacrifice, and

1056
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: he played a completely different role. He comes back and

1057
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: it's like yo, like, okay, you gotta be power Bank

1058
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: Carrow again. This is you flip the switch. And once

1059
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: he did that in Utah, it was over from there.

1060
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: And now he's just like to me, like his numbers

1061
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: are too good, Orlando's gonna make a playoffs. You have

1062
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: to I'm in there.

1063
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 4: And this is how I knew this, how I knew

1064
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 4: our fucked with Polo though.

1065
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 5: We was at the Jordan the Jordan Boorder Governor's thing

1066
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 5: this summer, the little I call it Jordan family Reunion, right,

1067
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 5: so you know, you get out this in Puerto Rico.

1068
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 5: We all out there, just kick it time, you know

1069
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Get some dreams, hang out at the pool,

1070
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 5: all that shit.

1071
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 4: Right.

1072
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 5: So the uh one of the days, it's like early

1073
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 5: in the afternoon, it's like ten to eleven o'clock. Ten,

1074
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 5: like ten, me and my wife. We go out about

1075
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 5: to go sit out on the beach. We my wife

1076
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 5: might bid me and his wife. So we we out there,

1077
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 5: we chilling, and I see, like, you know, the whole beach.

1078
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 5: You looked down there, like fucking down on down there,

1079
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 5: Me and Bibby looking like, who is that motherfucker down

1080
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 5: there running on the beach. I'm like, who the fuck

1081
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 5: is that? So I say, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna

1082
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 5: go see so I won't see who it is. Get

1083
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 5: down there, get a little closer, get to where you

1084
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 5: can see it is.

1085
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 4: It's power up.

1086
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 2: I say, this.

1087
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 4: Motherfucker out here, okay, I said, okay, what about to be?

1088
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 5: I say hey, I said, I say, hey, that's Bibby

1089
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 5: down there. I said, I told me, I said that

1090
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 5: Palo down there. He says, okay, okay, he's real hunt.

1091
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 4: I say, s it must be from chilling and you're

1092
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 4: running on the beast about it.

1093
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: That was that was something to me.

1094
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 4: It was early.

1095
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: So I gave my list. I would love to know

1096
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 2: you gentlemen's list.

1097
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 4: I'm I'm with that. I'm with that list. I agree.

1098
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 2: So if you got trade and we take off, Jimmy,

1099
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 2: take off that Portray for that.

1100
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 4: I definitely agree with your lists on the East. Give

1101
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 4: you your West, D my West, I have Anthony Elwards. Well,

1102
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 4: let me say my starters, because I feel like there

1103
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 4: is the starting Luca, Steph Curry, Durant, Lebron Joker.

1104
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 2: Starters, s G start but he won't get the vote.

1105
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 4: But yeah, I got my reserves is s G A,

1106
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 4: Anthony Ewarts, Paul George.

1107
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: Dearon Fox, Kawhi.

1108
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 4: A D and man H. The last one, Yeah, the

1109
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 4: last one I go with. I feel like New Orleans

1110
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 4: needs to put somebody in there, so I go with

1111
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 4: Brandon Ingele.

1112
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: Can't get mad at that? What you got?

1113
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 4: You?

1114
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: You over there, look puzzled. Think about this? Yeah, no Kyrie,

1115
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: right job, and Joe's obviously hurt and missing, Like, think

1116
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: about how competitive, how hard it is to make the

1117
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: All Star Game. That's shit crazy. You have no Kyrie

1118
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: in forty two thirty.

1119
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 5: Eight, so nobody, nobody, don't think Shane's gon gonna got

1120
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 5: an outside shot to make it.

1121
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 4: Who coaches vote?

1122
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 2: Kin?

1123
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 6: I like what the young fellas doing out there in Houston.

1124
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna knock it, but I don't know who

1125
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 6: I take out.

1126
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't put him before, Like Zion

1127
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 4: got a couple of guys, Why wouldn't you put him before?

1128
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 4: I have been playing, he's been playing. They not better

1129
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 4: than him, No, they've been up in the standings.

1130
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 5: He ain't been playing better than Shang Goon, though, what

1131
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 5: you gonna say about you got that face of nah.

1132
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 5: I just wouldn't put him over Shang Goon. I want

1133
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 5: Zion to be the motherfucker. I want him to be

1134
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 5: Thinos and I ain't seen that. That's that's look, I'm

1135
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 5: a fan. I wanted to be I wanted to be Thinos.

1136
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 5: I wanted to walk around tear and rims off the

1137
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 5: damn court. But like, hey, he got to do that.

1138
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 5: Shang Goon, to me, had a better season in him.

1139
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 6: So he's playing well. Shang Goon, he's playing well. But

1140
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 6: I still can't believe he got more goddamn votes than

1141
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 6: Paul George.

1142
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 4: That's crazy. But you got to think about it something.

1143
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 5: When you got the different like he might have a

1144
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 5: whole you got to think about that too, Like you

1145
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, PG gotta split votes with with.

1146
00:48:54,360 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 4: With with with uh Kawhi probably Russ hard and all

1147
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 4: of that.

1148
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 2: I got.

1149
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 5: I got the same I'm close to you, I got,

1150
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 5: I got a man staring lineup should be s G

1151
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 5: A and Edwards.

1152
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 2: That's my my style.

1153
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you my style line my Styn Paul,

1154
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 6: George Joker, bron A D and s g A.

1155
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 2: That's my style.

1156
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: Hey, speaking of that, though, because you're right you touch

1157
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: on that all start voting doesn't need a change because

1158
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,919
Speaker 1: that's like, I know, the fans should have a vote.

1159
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: They're they're the reason we have what we have. But

1160
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: with that being said, like.

1161
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 5: Money tied to that though, had no all start being

1162
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 5: in that to be tripping about it. But like that's

1163
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 5: like when you get into this is my thing, when

1164
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 5: you letting these people just got human emotions do this

1165
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 5: and then you tie these players moneys to first team

1166
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 5: All NBA and all of that, super Maxes and ship,

1167
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 5: they can't be like these some of these reporters and

1168
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 5: people just voting don't like somebody.

1169
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that that's that's a human flaw.

1170
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 3: Bro.

1171
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 5: Like yeah, it like like Tatum that one year if

1172
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 5: he would have made one of them teams, Bro, he

1173
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 5: would get in the Supermax dout and they didn't give

1174
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 5: it to him, and he deserved it.

1175
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: Thirty mill tickets gone, just thirty.

1176
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 4: Yes, yeh, where he's gonna tell me, I ain't supposed

1177
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 4: to care about that, Like, I'm a real person.

1178
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie and say some TV shit. I'm

1179
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 5: pissed if I'm in that particament. Bro, Like who the

1180
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 5: motherfucker didn't vote for me?

1181
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 6: Said, I'm a real person, real talkay the perfect shit.

1182
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 4: Like MB average thirty five right now, he averaged thirty five,

1183
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 4: ten and like six or something like that.

1184
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: Like if he missed seven more games.

1185
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 1: He not eligible for first team.

1186
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 4: He's not eligible for nothing, no award, the MVP, the

1187
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 4: All of the All NBA or none of that. So

1188
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 4: if he finished the season and just say he missed

1189
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 4: them seven games and his numbers at the end of

1190
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 4: the season still is thirty five, ten and six, and.

1191
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: Guess what, he probably gonna miss some seven games because yeah,

1192
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Really worried about winning the win

1193
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: in the finals, win the championship.

1194
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 4: So like when you missed that, Like it's hard to

1195
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 4: average thirty five at center in the Guards League right now.

1196
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 4: The m v P just because he missed more than

1197
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 4: seventeen games, so I feel like it's a gifting the

1198
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 4: curse with that their rule.

1199
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, but I love him be I love

1200
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: what they've been able to do since James Harden left.

1201
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1202
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 6: The connection that they got, I think they're definitely a

1203
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 6: more connected group, you know what I'm saying, connected locker room,

1204
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 6: which helps you know what I'm saying. Obviously, you lose

1205
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 6: a superstar and you feel like, who's gonna step up?

1206
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: Max?

1207
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 6: He already stepped up. Now the guys are playing great.

1208
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 6: You see Tobias Harris playing great in his role, so

1209
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 6: you understand that. I think that locker room is connected.

1210
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 6: Shot out of Pat Bell, you know what I'm saying.

1211
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 6: I think I think he had a little bit of

1212
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 6: it to do with that locker room being connected. And

1213
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 6: for those guys, I was one of my young fellas

1214
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 6: where people don't know Pat Bell first came to the heat,

1215
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 6: you know what, Yeah, yeah, yeah, he kicked it so

1216
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 6: shout have a pick. The full court had everyone flustered, exactly.

1217
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 6: I think he's a huge part of the success that

1218
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 6: they're having. And you know, when you get into the playoffs,

1219
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 6: and you look at you know, what we were able

1220
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 6: to do to him two years ago, and you look

1221
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 6: at what Boston was able to do to him last year.

1222
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 6: It didn't really come down to talent. It kind of

1223
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 6: came down to grit. It kind of came down to grit.

1224
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 6: So when you got a guy like Pat belg always

1225
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 6: had that battery in your back. You know what I'm saying,

1226
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 6: hold your ass accountable. You know what I'm saying.

1227
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 2: That gives him a little bit more of an edge.

1228
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: But I don't know right now.

1229
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 6: Obviously it'd be hard for anybody to say anybody outside

1230
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 6: of Boston.

1231
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 2: Man shout out Pat Bell too.

1232
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: Man, Yes, you got you got Boston.

1233
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1234
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 6: Well no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

1235
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 6: I said it be hard. I know, I said it

1236
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 6: to be Hardston. No, I said this is great new

1237
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 6: I said it'd be hard to put you outside of Boston.

1238
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: I got the heat, you did, you got Boston?

1239
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 4: No, No, I said, I got Boston. Yeah, Boston, they

1240
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 4: got it like Boston got a Saint. Boston got Saint

1241
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 4: Louis represented on the squad. So I just you of Boston, goddamn.

1242
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 4: But that's the other side of the fridge, I wrote

1243
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 4: them both sides of listen. I understand that talent wise,

1244
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 4: what they're doing right now. Yes, you would say, Boston

1245
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 4: in a seven game series, motherfucker seven days a week

1246
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 4: and twice on Sunday.

1247
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 2: I'm ride with the heat mm hm.

1248
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 6: And that's just how I feel when it when it

1249
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 6: comes down to a seven game ser they come down

1250
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 6: to a seven fucking game series now.

1251
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: And don't get me wrong, y'all got work to do this.

1252
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: Y'all got work.

1253
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 4: They got this, So we're gonna we're gonna take the

1254
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 4: Eastern Conference out because we know the heat over there.

1255
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 4: Who you got coming out to West.

1256
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 6: Ship, that's tough. I'm gonna be honest. I like what

1257
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 6: them young boys doing. They ain't and they ain't letting up.

1258
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 6: They couldn't wait for the time they could whoop on

1259
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 6: braun and and stuff them. They couldn't wait for their

1260
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 6: day to come. Them young motherfuckers ain't letting up. Excuse me, Minnesota, Okay,

1261
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 6: see them young motherfucker's is sitting up there and they're

1262
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 6: not letting up. They're not getting bored with the process.

1263
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 6: You know, the old motherfuckers, you'd be in the first

1264
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 6: seed and you kind of move and walk your way

1265
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 6: into the playoffs, and we're gonna turn it up, and

1266
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 6: it's shit easy.

1267
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: Right now, you know we got we got the format already.

1268
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 6: You fucking dominate at home when fifty percent of the

1269
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 6: games on the road, and then you put yourself in

1270
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 6: the number one and number two seed.

1271
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: We all know the format. We've been in this shit

1272
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 2: long enough.

1273
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 6: But then young motherfuckers, they ain't known that they're trying

1274
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 6: to win every mother fucking game.

1275
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 2: I got Denver, got den I will.

1276
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: Say this though, Man, I got to tip my hat

1277
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: tim Conley over there. Man, Tim Conley, last year he

1278
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: leaves Denver, builds that team. Obviously they're doing a great

1279
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: job over there. Now goes to Minnesota, goes and trades

1280
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: for Gobert. Doesn't look like it works out at all,

1281
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: and now number one team in the West.

1282
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 2: They're different.

1283
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: But it reminds me though, of like when we used

1284
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: to play Phoenix. Everyone has to change style because the

1285
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: child the style is completely different. I watched the game

1286
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: Minnesota and Orlando. They're out there playing two seven footers,

1287
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: dominating the paint, hard, hedging on pick and rolls. It's like,

1288
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm like what the hell going on? Like, But every

1289
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: team that plays them now like changes their style of play.

1290
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: It's almost like when we do a Phoenix. It drove

1291
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: me crazy when I was playing. We go play Phoenix

1292
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: and we change our lineup up. Track man, they gonna

1293
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: beat the shit of us. We change your line up.

1294
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: We gotta try to flip it. But it's the only

1295
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: team that's different. Two seven footers. They're dominating the paint cats,

1296
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: making all the three.

1297
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 6: The only reason that ship worked with Too Bigs is

1298
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 6: because Orlando can't shoot. They can't play too Bigs in

1299
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 6: the playoffs. I'm telling you to try that in the

1300
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 6: playoffs and watch what I think it's in the playoffs.

1301
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 6: That ship not gonna work like.

1302
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 2: It was then. Willing to play defense, are willing to

1303
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 2: play defense.

1304
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 6: But what I'm telling you is the biggest fucking like

1305
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 6: confusion about that is Rudy Gobert can be defensive player

1306
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 6: of the Year in the fucking regular season and be

1307
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 6: a defensive liveability in the playoffs gonna.

1308
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 2: Be and it's not.

1309
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 6: It has nothing to do with r has nothing to

1310
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 6: do with Rudy, has nothing to do with what he does.

1311
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 6: But it's how people are going to scheme to play against.

1312
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 6: That's he's naturally a shot blocker. He's naturally protecting the room.

1313
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 6: If you gotta fucking stretch five or somebody sitting out there,

1314
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 6: I'm gonna line your ass up and tell my team

1315
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 6: getting the paint all the time. Every time Rudy go

1316
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 6: Bell is coming. Whoever you're playing the five, you motherfucker

1317
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 6: get ready to that's your motherfucking clips spray.

1318
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 4: Let me tell you who I got though. I got

1319
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 4: through Los Angeles Clippers. Change the narrative over there, finally

1320
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 4: grab the title.

1321
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 5: With that one, and I could go for that. I

1322
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 5: could go that's on top now, but I could go

1323
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 5: for that one. I love what T doing and the

1324
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,479
Speaker 5: boys got got them, got them cracking. And now they didn't,

1325
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 5: like you said, they didn't figure it out. What they

1326
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 5: didn't They didn't hit that stride James and got situated.

1327
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 5: Russ going to the bench was big. And while you say,

1328
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 5: Kawhi playing like that up, it's a different ball. You

1329
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 5: got a Russell Westbrook for four billion dollars coming off

1330
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 5: your bench. I like, man, they playing, they playing together,

1331
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 5: they look like they want to play together.

1332
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 4: They look for each other. I got get shot.

1333
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 5: I won't get a shout out the russ though, because

1334
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 5: I feel like, you know what I'm saying, like he

1335
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 5: don't get enough credit for what he what you know

1336
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, love the game too, man brou Think

1337
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 5: about how the Lakers fans was trying to make it

1338
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 5: all about him. They record the same man he gone

1339
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 5: and now he over here doing this thing, and then

1340
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 5: he's showing that that he for a team, like you

1341
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, like to take himself out of

1342
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 5: the equation and say I come off the bench and

1343
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 5: do this and that, like that's all selfless behavior. Why

1344
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 5: they ain't getting shine more on you know what I'm saying,

1345
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 5: Like they were so busy trying to dog my g

1346
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 5: out and talk shit about him, but like he just

1347
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 5: did some huge ship for somebody in his shoes to

1348
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 5: be what he is, to have the accolades and the

1349
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 5: success he's had, and then to just say I come

1350
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 5: off the bench and just take all the pressure off everything.

1351
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 5: Like I don't think that got enough credit for what

1352
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 5: he did and the way he did it. And then

1353
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 5: to see the results they turned their ship around and

1354
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 5: they hooping and not wear is all of.

1355
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 2: That talk many in the West too.

1356
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 4: Just let y'all know.

1357
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 6: I don't understand why, why why all the flat for us? Like,

1358
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 6: what is he misunderstood? I will play hard every player. Mean,

1359
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 6: what the fucking you complain about? He leave it out there.

1360
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 2: Every year, every fucking night, every every fucking night. Whether

1361
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 2: you like it or not, you gotta respect.

1362
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:58,439
Speaker 4: You got to dag.

1363
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 6: So I love the fact that he did that. That's

1364
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 6: a great call. I like the Clippers, what you got

1365
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 6: to kill him? I'm going Denver too, because you played that.

1366
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 4: No.

1367
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: I just I just think, yes, they're very there, they're listen,

1368
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: man Like at the end of the day, jokers makes

1369
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: everybody better. Playoff basketball comes the last four minutes. He's

1370
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: going to create a shot, a great shot for himself.

1371
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: He can get the file line, like un tell someone

1372
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: beats him. I think. I think losing Bruce Brown hurt him.

1373
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: I really do.

1374
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 4: They may get him back.

1375
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: They might get him back and they come back around.

1376
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: But like, like to me, I've seen it too much,

1377
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: Like they create too much. Like to me, the basketball

1378
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: game in the playoffs, this last four minutes of the game,

1379
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna be back and forth, and he just he's

1380
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: one that you can put the ball on, like I

1381
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: told him when he was a rookie, when I had him,

1382
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: it was the first person I ever saw was like

1383
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: the matrix the ball hit his hands and everything to stop.

1384
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: And and when when pressure gets the biggest and it's

1385
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: four minutes left and that matrix hits, I just think

1386
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: he's I think he's gonna lead it they giving me

1387
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: And he's a five man that can shoot against.

1388
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 5: Like how they shot along. You all talk about everybody

1389
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 5: and get his about this and that. But like we

1390
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 5: just gonna keep on we handling our fucking business while

1391
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 5: and something we gotta mention.

1392
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: To, like going into Denver and winning a playoff game.

1393
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: It's hard, Like that's a huge advantage at the d

1394
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: of the day. You gotta get the four.

1395
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 5: But yeah, they giving me them spurs vibes where they

1396
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 5: just trotting on the loan handling their business. We ain't

1397
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 5: got to be in the spotlight of being talked about then.

1398
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 5: I like, we all know coaching is a big part

1399
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,959
Speaker 5: of it. I like coach Mike Malone's hold his whole

1400
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,919
Speaker 5: mentality about it, Like I like, you know what I'm saying.

1401
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 5: I like the way he gonna he gonna have their

1402
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 5: ass on point. You know what I'm saying, he ain't

1403
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 5: gonna let them, let them funk off because he ain't

1404
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:37,439
Speaker 5: doing his part. You know what I'm saying, That ain't

1405
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 5: gonna happen. So I just like what they doing, man,

1406
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 5: I still and I still think they strong. Then when

1407
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 5: when Yokis missed a couple of games and DeAndre Jordan

1408
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 5: when he got twenty and teams, I'm like, okay, big hotlander,

1409
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 5: you still he might be the best live catcher in

1410
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 5: the history of the league though, like for real, like

1411
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 5: just like a big man catching lot, like bro, you

1412
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 5: ain't really seen footage like du birthday he catching way

1413
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 5: over here.

1414
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 4: He ship like he still do that. I got a

1415
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 4: question for you. Yeah, uh, Orlando franchise has been here

1416
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 4: for what thirty three thirty four years? Next month they

1417
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 4: retire Shack jersey. It's gonna be the first jersey that

1418
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 4: they retire. I feel like Ta Mac should be next

1419
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 4: on that list.

1420
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: What you think, No, I agree? I think obviously Shack

1421
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: is well you know as well, do like that's what

1422
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be. Like that was the I mean

1423
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: for me personally, that was like the jersey him and

1424
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: Penny right, like, like I rocked those at our age.

1425
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: That was like the six jersey, and then I saw

1426
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: t Mac. Tac to me is one of the most

1427
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: underrated basketball players I've ever played. Me too, I feel

1428
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: so like he was elite passer. They talk about scoring,

1429
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: elite passer and again, very similar to what I said

1430
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: to you at the beginning of this podcast, like he

1431
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: was almost a bit better ahead of his time. Yeah,

1432
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: Like if you guys came out, now, come on, man, like,

1433
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: like that's what the game is like, so he should

1434
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: be there. If he doesn't have injuries, it's already it's

1435
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,919
Speaker 1: it's like this whole thing, this whole script is different,

1436
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: but that's part of the game. Like, but yeah, t

1437
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: Mac was so instrumental in Orlando Magic basketball for me

1438
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: personally too.

1439
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 2: Jersey retired.

1440
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: Right next to the boy.

1441
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 4: I mean, this is his relationship with Orlando. Yeah, he

1442
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 4: was just game okay good.

1443
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: And he from right down the road to.

1444
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know nothing Aboutale.

1445
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 6: No, I don't even know what the that was until

1446
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 6: I met t back. I didn't know where the Arbadale

1447
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 6: was till I met We played au ball together. That's

1448
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 6: the first time I met t Bank. It was me, Kean,

1449
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 6: dooland Brent Right. We had a hell of a team.

1450
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 6: But that that was the first time I met teamate.

1451
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 6: So it's time for flash and that's when we see

1452
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 6: your glass. That's when I was like, who the fuck

1453
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 6: is this?

1454
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 5: That's when That's when that's when I met When U

1455
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 5: d was a fat boy football player. Yeah, camp, we

1456
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 5: go to ABC at Camp key on the Florida Boys

1457
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 5: over there.

1458
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 2: That's when Kean was talking about teammate. Hey, we got

1459
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 2: this dude.

1460
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 4: We got this dude on nobody no bottom dollar. He's

1461
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 4: so cold. Wait till they seat man. He cold.

1462
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 6: He was talking about one thing I said was every

1463
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 6: I don't know what it was, but every time I

1464
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 6: seen you rich out of camp, like wherever we were,

1465
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 6: like it was solid, Like it was just like Chicago,

1466
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 6: like that ship just vibe.

1467
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: You know, real real recognize you get away from all

1468
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 2: the rooty poops man.

1469
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 6: No squares in the circle because you realize quickly when

1470
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 6: you go to all these camps, people from different places,

1471
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 6: they buy by different rules.

1472
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 2: They was raised differently. Man, I the camp.

1473
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1474
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:30,439
Speaker 2: My stock went down to camp.

1475
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 4: Every time I went to Nike camp, on any camp

1476
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 4: really NBA camp, I stock always go down nice because

1477
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 4: I get nice.

1478
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 5: You was out there just it's just like, you know,

1479
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 5: it's it's selfish and ship. He ain't gonna go out

1480
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 5: there and get his ship off.

1481
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 4: He's gonna be trying to pass because you know, like

1482
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 4: everybody's just out there selfish and just yeah, just trying

1483
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 4: to get the rock off. And I'm just, man, I

1484
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 4: don't want to play in this bullshit. But when I

1485
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 4: seen him AAU, I'm quadruple doubling and triple doubling they

1486
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 4: every time I seen them. But it seemed like when

1487
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 4: I got to camp, everybody was just trying to just

1488
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 4: do too much, you know what I'm saying, And it

1489
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 4: just it just rubbed me like the wrong way.

1490
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 2: Well, I just weren't really fucking with camps like that.

1491
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I was a big man, so I had

1492
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 2: to wait for awful. I was never really getting the

1493
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 2: ball in them camps. If you wait for somebody to

1494
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 2: pass it to.

1495
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 4: You played forms Like how the fuck did they get

1496
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 4: you to play? They already had co Yeah.

1497
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: One time I literally was sitting at the crib and

1498
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: you know you have this is back way before you

1499
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: have the house phone. I get my phone was ringing.

1500
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: I pick it up and it's a smiring piggy in them.

1501
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: Ce was with Jail for some ship. But he's like,

1502
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: hey man, we're gonna go playing the Blue Williams Tournament

1503
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: this weekend. Yeah you want to go play. This is

1504
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: before I knew there was a dynamic between Adidas and Nike. Yeah,

1505
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: like I didn't even know it was like a deal.

1506
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: And I was like, sure, they flew me up there.

1507
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: I practiced with him. Corleone Young was busting my ass

1508
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: and like, what the hell is this? You know what

1509
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: you're back then you didn't see nobody. It's not like

1510
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: now you walk into you walk into the fire. You

1511
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: find out like like that, Like, oh I got adjust

1512
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: a little bit here. But man went to play with them.

1513
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: We had a whip man we had they already got one,

1514
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: two three.

1515
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, they had att.

1516
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 5: Yeah drawing Rush, the boy that Ben jumped over he

1517
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 5: played with from George, but they had everybody.

1518
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: They had a whip and they walked in that thing

1519
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: dog like, eyes wide open, come straight from south the

1520
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: Street and South Dakoch.

1521
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 5: And guess what ud We fucked them around three four

1522
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 5: times that summer met him and we beat him in

1523
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 5: Peace Jam, we beat him in Purdue, and we beat

1524
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 5: him in.

1525
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 4: Beat Ship in Kansas City.

1526
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 2: In Kansas City to around were we supposed to play

1527
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 2: out of high school. I didn't want you to know. No,

1528
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 2: let's go.

1529
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 6: We had it on the schedule, but the way it

1530
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 6: was set up as we were supposed to play them

1531
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 6: on a Sunday, and the state of Florida didn't allow

1532
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 6: us to travel up there and play a Sunday basketball game.

1533
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 2: It was right they couldn't go.

1534
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 4: How we would have loved to get some of that

1535
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 4: spoke you, Rich, I'm just telling I told me and

1536
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 4: Blake had this conversation.

1537
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: We love some of that smoke.

1538
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 4: Listen, man, listen, listen. I get you still remember silverl

1539
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 4: was on my team at night. He gave you a

1540
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 4: lot of.

1541
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:35,919
Speaker 1: It was nice. It was nice.

1542
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 4: Just run the flow, rebound, pass.

1543
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 2: Play hard, just passing and facilitate for guys.

1544
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: We just we just we just we just couldn't get

1545
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: the grades right for Florida, so we.

1546
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 2: Couldn't we couldn't get him. We couldn't go outside of

1547
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 2: the state right.

1548
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 4: Well, we couldn't play like and all this stuff. We

1549
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 4: couldn't go, We couldn't play on a Sunday. Everything different

1550
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 4: now none of that. People go any were now craving

1551
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 4: across the country. Now man anywhere and play any goddamn

1552
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 4: with anybody.

1553
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 5: The one thing I do wish they had the back

1554
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 5: then that they have now was the you know how

1555
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 5: they at the end of the year, they had a

1556
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 5: big Dick Spoydings good real tournament. Like when we were playing,

1557
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 5: you had to win the national championship by staying undefeated

1558
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 5: by your record like the US A year, like like

1559
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 5: when they have that joint to be on TV and

1560
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 5: then they put like, okay, now all the teams is

1561
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 5: the best team.

1562
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 2: Now y'all come to this. That's the one I wish.

1563
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 5: Then you really get to see Like now, now y'all,

1564
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 5: we all here. We did our state and all that

1565
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 5: stuff over. Now let's come to the one state that

1566
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 5: wouldn't have been able to come. I see I fired,

1567
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 5: Yeah you.

1568
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 4: It's fucking rebound and outlet it to himself.

1569
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 2: He shooted, he get back on defense, he rebounded and

1570
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 2: past never get that was him.

1571
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 4: That was the point guard center cloud for getting political doubles.

1572
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 6: I tell everybody when I got back to Miami, I

1573
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 6: tell everybody I've seen some ship we ain't seen before.

1574
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 2: Down here can go?

1575
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 4: He cold.

1576
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 6: I ain't know I was gonna play with him, but

1577
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 6: he fucking go. But the rest of your team, I

1578
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 6: don't even know who the fuck. I don't have no clue.

1579
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 6: They could walk by me right now and I wouldn't know.

1580
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 6: I wouldn't know, no cousin Ernie. I earned doll of

1581
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 6: course I know earned dog. I would not assume earned out.

1582
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 6: What's a basketball player if he walked by me right now.

1583
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 6: I would not assume that fucking heard dog was hooping.

1584
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 6: If he walked through this motherfucker sept right now, There's

1585
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 6: no way in hell he hooped with you.

1586
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 4: And you know the crazy thing about it. I supposed

1587
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 4: to transferred to Whitney Young my sophomore.

1588
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 2: He was for y'all, some cheap motherfuckers.

1589
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like my school was, it's two it was two

1590
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 4: schools in East Saint Louis, and my school announced they

1591
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 4: was going they went on strike. So we suposed to

1592
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 4: started school in August, but they went on strike for

1593
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 4: two whole months. Like we ain't getting in school till October.

1594
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 4: He was scared. So I played with que him aau.

1595
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 4: I was the only sophomore playing with all the rest

1596
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 4: of them was gonna be singing. So they was talking

1597
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 4: about come to chit I go and go to Whitney

1598
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 4: young and I was just like, man, I ain't fucking

1599
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 4: with Chicago. Man.

1600
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 2: Some city boys be talking too fast for me. That's

1601
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 2: how it used to be so growing up. Obviously you

1602
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 2: you could have went there.

1603
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 6: You had the opportunity talk about it because I didn't

1604
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 6: know him at that time, but you knew him the way,

1605
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 6: and you knew him with him, You played with him

1606
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 6: talking about the young.

1607
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 4: D Wade before I even met him.

1608
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 5: That the ways a mouse, quiet as a mouse. That

1609
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 5: bitch could be sitting right there.

1610
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:31,560
Speaker 2: You would not know.

1611
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:35,560
Speaker 4: Really, I wouldn't say a god damn word. But but

1612
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 4: his game the same flash. Then he had the same

1613
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 4: thing you see in the league.

1614
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 2: It was the same thing he was doing when I

1615
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 2: first seen.

1616
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,719
Speaker 4: Like. I didn't played with the way till the summer

1617
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 4: going into my senior year. Like I played with Cut

1618
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 4: and him the summer going to my sophomore year. Then

1619
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 4: I played with Gerance Howard them the summer going to

1620
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 4: my junior year and then the first time he meeting

1621
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 4: d Wade was that summer. I was playing the point

1622
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 4: and d Wade was playing like the committe You was

1623
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 4: playing the point. Yeah, I was like running the point.

1624
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 4: Damn d Wade and d Wade playing the two. Wade

1625
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 4: average like thirty his senior year. He average crazy numbers.

1626
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 4: They just didn't look like like thirty one. I'm saying

1627
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 4: like seven, like he had crazy numbers. Really, I'm telling

1628
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 4: you why, d Wade. I remember d Wade. We'll go

1629
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 4: to these games au and I have thirty or I

1630
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 4: have twenty five and d wadeer have like thirty or

1631
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 4: he'll have like twenty five. And then they decided not

1632
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 4: to let him go to Nike Camp. He didn't get

1633
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 4: picked to go to Nike Camp. His feelings was so

1634
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 4: hurt for not getting picked to go to Night camp

1635
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 4: because he was putting up numbers.

1636
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 2: He was, you know, he was doing this thing that

1637
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 2: status said too.

1638
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 4: And I feel like from that moment because he worked

1639
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 4: so hard to get to that, in that moment, he

1640
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 4: just excelled like ever since then. That's why I had

1641
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 4: at that.

1642
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 1: Point, rankings and lists and stuff. Because that you can't

1643
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: tell me if he was the same player y'all talking about.

1644
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 1: That's why I don't even look at suff anybody. It's

1645
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 1: got past my eyes. If he passed my eyes, I

1646
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 1: don't care what you ranked athletic.

1647
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 4: He's a defender, like the same lay up style got

1648
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 4: You'll be like, man, he's doing the same move, and yeah,

1649
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 4: that's the same. He learned a few more moves, don't

1650
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 4: get me wrong, But his whole style and demeanor and

1651
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 4: everything with the same thing when I first met him,

1652
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 4: When I first when.

1653
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 6: I see why he had the little chip on his shoulder. Then, yeah,

1654
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 6: I didn't know him then, obviously I didn't. I was

1655
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 6: overseas when you know he had his run with Marquette.

1656
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 6: But when I got back, I had signed with the

1657
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 6: Heat and they had drafted, And when they drafted, they

1658
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 6: drafted d Wade and one of my homeboys, Like I said,

1659
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 6: draft came up, drafted draft. Du do say, boy, y'all

1660
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 6: got their boyfriend that could go. I say who he said,

1661
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 6: Dwayne Wade? I say, who the fuck is that? Like

1662
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 6: I said, I had just got back from Europe. He said,

1663
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 6: this motherfucker dropped the triple double. On Kentucky, I said,

1664
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 6: what Once I heard that, because once again I played

1665
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 6: against Kentucky. We played goast Kentucky every fucking year, and

1666
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 6: we went to Florida. I've never won in Reparna. I've

1667
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 6: never got to win in Reperna. Once I heard that

1668
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 6: motherfucker dropped the triple double on Kentucky, I said, this

1669
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 6: motherfucker got me cold. Like motherfucker, you already know how Kentucky.

1670
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 6: It's still the same thing you might have get one

1671
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 6: or two years at Kentucky. Your ass is up out

1672
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 6: of here. So if he dropped the triple double on

1673
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 6: them on that stage, I knew he had to be cold.

1674
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 6: But I didn't know him at that point, but to

1675
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 6: know that he was.

1676
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 4: Cold like that. Then he got he got a little

1677
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 4: bit more fashion, and he talked a little bit more now,

1678
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:39,719
Speaker 4: but he exactly the same dude I met that summer

1679
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 4: right now today.

1680
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 5: He ain't quiet no more like his personality cho I'm

1681
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 5: gonna tell you exactly when the quiet shit stopped.

1682
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 2: Shaq Twaan Walker.

1683
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 5: GP when they came. I'm telling you I know it

1684
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 5: like the back of my hand. Bro you already know

1685
01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:00,679
Speaker 5: you d wentever like before that I'm I'm the one

1686
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 5: calling d Hey, man, let's go there. He comes when

1687
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 5: they come through. L a man, that man not leaving

1688
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 5: the hotel room. You want see d Wad. You gotta

1689
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 5: go slide through and go see d Wade. He not

1690
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 5: doing none of this.

1691
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 4: They can't.

1692
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 5: I ain't gotta call him though. He hit me talking

1693
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 5: on man, we got such and such going on, and

1694
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 5: this and this and this. When I rememberen y'all came

1695
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 5: through Phoenix the first time. This is the first time

1696
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 5: I seen because now I'm in Phoenix.

1697
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 4: D Wade called me and say, yeah, say so we're

1698
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 4: gonna be Dad, We're gonna be here, so you know,

1699
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 4: we me and me and Rio and then we shoot

1700
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 4: up there before hen we all yeah, here, come here,

1701
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 4: come here, here, here they come. Uh. Damon Jones, Jimmy

1702
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 4: Hart in in front of the crew.

1703
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 2: He got.

1704
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:44,919
Speaker 4: Talking, he and Malthas.

1705
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 1: He's talking and he come to rest On.

1706
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 4: After that, I'm like, damn, this boy out here shot

1707
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 4: and gave him the bracelet bottom of Lambo. It's over. Yeah, man, Jones,

1708
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 4: shcause he was the bullhorn, come with it talking.

1709
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 2: You would talk about when we pulled up the Phoenix,

1710
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 2: but what about when we used to pull up to

1711
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 2: New York.

1712
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 4: You're rich, oh man, what we what we talked about?

1713
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 4: What we talked about? It was about our ride. My

1714
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 4: dog had a halfway.

1715
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 5: Highway straight to Mount Vernon, Mount Vernon, New York suits rendezvous. Hey,

1716
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 5: the gentlemen want.

1717
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 2: To go have a good time.

1718
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 4: What you know about? What you know about that?

1719
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 5: Anybody that's gonna hear this, they're gonna when they hear that,

1720
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 5: that was an eraror that was a moment in time.

1721
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 4: Man, was a moment that time was had. This room

1722
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 4: might be niggering, so something.

1723
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 6: Let me tell you something. You rich had the s

1724
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 6: u vs at the hotel by the time we got

1725
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 6: because listen, you got.

1726
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 4: A short window, and you got about our ride. Yeah,

1727
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 4: it's a nice you got. You got about our you got.

1728
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 2: You got to be there.

1729
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:03,799
Speaker 4: So if you rich had the SUVs at the hotel

1730
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 4: by the time we.

1731
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 1: Pull up, talking about Susie to his glasses.

1732
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 2: Off, listen, you don't you don't want to be there

1733
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 2: all night. You just need an hour and a half.

1734
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 4: He listen. New York was a special player. It is

1735
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 4: a special place. New York is very soon closer. It's

1736
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 4: been dangerous man. Man, it had to be that far away.

1737
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 4: It had to be.

1738
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 6: It had to be because, let me tell you, talking

1739
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 6: to somebody who comes from the strip curb capital of

1740
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 6: the world, like this is what we do.

1741
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:28,600
Speaker 4: Like I went to school with.

1742
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 6: Half the strippers. You understand that I know, I'm knowing

1743
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 6: before they go to work. I knew him, you know

1744
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So like I been, I've been about

1745
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 6: that life. I would have been one of strip cluses

1746
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 6: that was fourteen jack, you know what I'm saying. So

1747
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 6: that's what that's right there with different boy, it was different.

1748
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to segue from the strip club

1749
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: to shooting threes. I used to know, but but I'm

1750
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 1: going to it ain't that hall. I got a list

1751
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: for y'all.

1752
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 4: It goes together. Say you think no shots being taking

1753
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:57,959
Speaker 4: that strip club.

1754
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 1: Talking about shooting your shot. I talked about your shot.

1755
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 4: When I was fourteen, I used to play in the

1756
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,640
Speaker 4: pro am with with like, uh, the older guys and

1757
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 4: we'll win the championship. We're going to the Pink Slip

1758
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 4: and celebrate. And they used to ask my mama like, yeah,

1759
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 4: can we take them? Can we take him? And she

1760
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, but he got to be home like

1761
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 4: like one thirty because because that doesn't close to like

1762
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 4: six of them. But they used to let me go.

1763
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 4: We end up eating churches, chicken and everything che bred man. Listen,

1764
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 4: I never forget my first lap dance, brown Sugar. That

1765
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 4: was her name, Sugar, brown Sugar Bath.

1766
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 6: I'll never forget they were brown Sugar. She was over head,

1767
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 6: had discorrect goal one goal in the front. Brown Sugar

1768
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 6: thinkets corn bread way back where, like I said, I

1769
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:52,600
Speaker 6: started going to strip clothes when I was fourteen. So

1770
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 6: none of these ain't. None of these stories current for

1771
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 6: white because I know she liked to watch the podcast.

1772
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 6: See I said these back in the day. Brown Sugar

1773
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 6: ain't got nothing to do with us. Our first time

1774
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 6: in Miami, brown Sugar was a name, said bro Sugar.

1775
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 2: Our first day in Miami. Well that was your first

1776
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 2: time in Miami.

1777
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 4: When when Trick took us to Cocoa Cocoke, that was

1778
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 4: that was Well, that.

1779
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 2: Wasn't my first time in Miami, but that was my

1780
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:24,600
Speaker 2: first time in.

1781
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 4: Shout, shut up, shout out to Double D. You know

1782
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 4: I'm already I was already a big fan. You know

1783
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and you know him and his brother,

1784
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 4: we met him at the at the comedy club, the

1785
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:41,640
Speaker 4: Coca Nut Grove brother. They was at the joint and

1786
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 4: then after what they were like they came to the hotel.

1787
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 4: You know, after I ain't got to take him to

1788
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 4: the grip club. That can't come out of Miami.

1789
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 2: And not go through the strip.

1790
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,679
Speaker 4: This was the Excursions was big time, you know, Scursions,

1791
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 4: the biggest truck you can get.

1792
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, me and cute and folded our ass up and

1793
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 2: got all the way in the back and we rolled

1794
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 2: a trick and man trick took us the coke COEs

1795
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 2: man shout out. The trick man was one way and

1796
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 2: one way out. You know, we with him.

1797
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 4: We were straight from the boat man.

1798
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 2: Up in that bit that when that one remember his

1799
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 2: buddy tried to pass past the jay.

1800
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 4: You don't want that man, that's the boat man. Yeah,

1801
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:24,560
Speaker 4: that's that dirty.

1802
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 6: Said, that's that's about like he burning glue. That dirty

1803
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 6: dirty yn't want that.

1804
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 4: You got arrested coming to your house, coming to my house.

1805
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 2: I just got the man. Ain't everybody was that.

1806
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 4: I remember that.

1807
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 2: I ain't did nothing wrong. We got the story.

1808
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 4: There we go.

1809
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:52,560
Speaker 6: We're gonna tell the story. You're rich once again. He

1810
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 6: got a nice crib, got a little got a little

1811
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 6: function going on. You know what I'm saying, Man, the

1812
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 6: people cut man, people together. I'm bringing people gathering, you

1813
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. So you know I got my homies.

1814
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 6: You know I got there. I'm pulling up. I got bought,

1815
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 6: I got a trunk full of bam bam, I got

1816
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 6: a trum. But it's my homeboy shit, it's my home

1817
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 6: boy ship.

1818
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 4: Now I feel me.

1819
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 2: We get pulled I said, I'm on this bressway because

1820
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 2: I'm already late. I stay the furthest. You know what

1821
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I live.

1822
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 6: I'm from Miami, but I live the fuck up and

1823
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 6: broad with. I'm trying to get there down the Curris cribs.

1824
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 6: So were on one night tef. I'll never forget this ship.

1825
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 6: Were on one night TV. We coming down one night teeth.

1826
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:38,480
Speaker 6: Now mind you now, everything in the car it's my homeboys.

1827
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 6: So we get pulled over, We get pulled over. I

1828
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 6: was speed, Yes, I was speed. So the first thing

1829
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 6: he do when we get pulled over, I see him

1830
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 6: behind me. I pull over, I let my I let

1831
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 6: my window down. The first thing I see when I

1832
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 6: let my window down is a goddamn gun pointed at

1833
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 6: my window. I say, hey, man, I'm a professional ball player.

1834
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 6: He said, How I know who you is? I say,

1835
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:58,640
Speaker 6: because you ran the tag, so you know who it

1836
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 6: is before you pull me over. If this carroom reporter stolen,

1837
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 6: then you know it's me, motherfucker.

1838
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 2: That's how you know.

1839
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. Oh, I smelled marijuana to

1840
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 6: call my homeboy. Say listen here, man, if you find

1841
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 6: anything in this car is mine. Now, whatever was in

1842
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:15,879
Speaker 6: the car had already been strategically placed under my homeboy seat. Anyway,

1843
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 6: his motherfuckers kept me on the side of the street

1844
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 6: in the ray and a wife beat him for two

1845
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 6: hours till the police dog came.

1846
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 2: Man, they went through the car.

1847
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 6: The police dog fucked my bends up, scratching my shit

1848
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 6: all up looking for my shit.

1849
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,640
Speaker 2: Man, he go in the car. Obviously they find what

1850
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 2: they're looking for. At the time.

1851
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 6: And the first thing this man say to me is

1852
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 6: how you gonna explain to all your NBA people what

1853
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 6: happened here today. The thing I said to him is

1854
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 6: all I'm gonna do is remember everything you say, so

1855
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 6: keep talking, you keep talking. You you ain't worried about

1856
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 6: nothing about no bam bam. You're just trying to get

1857
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 6: an NBA player. You think you got a big fish

1858
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 6: like motherfucker like this little bit of bag of weed

1859
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 6: ain't gonna get you.

1860
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 2: Motherfucker.

1861
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 4: You ain't finna get no Nobel Peace Prize for this shit.

1862
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. All you did was stop

1863
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 6: me from going to the pool part. That's all you

1864
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 6: fucking did. Fuck up the whole the whole vibe. Man,

1865
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 6: My dog had, the chef had, the DJ had, the

1866
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:10,879
Speaker 6: poor party, The whole vibe.

1867
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 2: Was fucked up.

1868
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 4: Man.

1869
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 6: I done got jammed up coming from q Ridge crib Man.

1870
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:15,600
Speaker 6: So the first thing I do is I called my

1871
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 6: business manager, and I called my my lawyer. Obviously get

1872
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 6: there these dirty month fuckers.

1873
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 2: It's we.

1874
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 6: First of all, it's FHP Florida Highway Patrol. They'll arrest

1875
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 6: their mama. They arrest anybody. Florida Highway Patrol arrest they

1876
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 6: fucking mama. They will take anybody to jail. As soon

1877
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 6: as I get downtown to the county, the first thing

1878
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 6: to do is look at me and say, now, what

1879
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 6: the fuck is you doing here that could have let

1880
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 6: you go. They put me in a cell with basis

1881
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 6: bombs and runaways and had the nerve to get my

1882
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 6: homeboy home sale by hisself.

1883
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 4: Oh what the fuck? They put me in a cell

1884
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 4: and let me say this shit again. They put me

1885
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 4: in a.

1886
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 6: Cell with basis bombs and runaways, and they gave my

1887
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 6: homeboy sell by himself. I walk in and sell the

1888
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 6: man sitting on the toilet taking a ship.

1889
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 4: Toilet matter toilet, first of all. Dog.

1890
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 6: Instantly, I'm saying to myself, this is not rehabilitation. Ain't

1891
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 6: nobody walking out here a better person. Ain't nobody walking

1892
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 6: out here a better person?

1893
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 1: Did you stop smoking after that?

1894
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 4: Hell?

1895
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 5: The fuck mother fuck got me fucked up? All I

1896
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 5: did was get a driver. Now listen, remember bruh, we

1897
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 5: at the house. We found that ship out, like they

1898
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 5: we were like damn because he was.

1899
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 6: Like he was supposed to be coming through. But I

1900
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 6: got the pistol and all killer. They don't got my fuck.

1901
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 6: I got the fire and and everything. I'm riding dirty,

1902
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 6: dirty because he told five yo man. So what they

1903
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 6: did was they let me out after midnight that night.

1904
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 6: But the fact that everybody I was in the jail

1905
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 6: cell with They let all the motherfuckers out eat too,

1906
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 6: because at the end of the day it was on

1907
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 6: the weekend and you can't go to court till Monday.

1908
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 4: So I was to leave huh out.

1909
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 6: They let everybody that was in to sell with me

1910
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 6: leave out because they knew once I left out, the

1911
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 6: fucking news cameras was gonna be there. So it's about

1912
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 6: six people in the sell with me. They let them

1913
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 6: out first, and the motherfuckers went to the right, and

1914
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 6: the news cameras started chasing them to the right to

1915
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 6: see it if I was in the crowd of six,

1916
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 6: and I hit the left and jumped in my car.

1917
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 6: So six motherfuckers got out of the house because of

1918
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 6: me that night. Hopefully they ain't get their ass back

1919
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 6: getting there.

1920
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 4: Coming the corel Gables, my crid.

1921
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 6: Man trying to ride hang out with my dog man

1922
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 6: got jammed up, and now my case got a sponged.

1923
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 6: There's nothing on my record. I was innocent, like I said,

1924
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 6: Like I said, I told his ass the first time.

1925
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:38,799
Speaker 6: Then he said, Jack, you ain't getting nothing from me. Motherfucker.

1926
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 6: You act like you got l choppo. What you think

1927
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 6: you go do?

1928
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 4: I don't know if I ever think you can, I

1929
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 4: tell the story when I seen you in Atlanta.

1930
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:46,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I tell you.

1931
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 4: I was in Atlanta, and you know, Atlanta got some

1932
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 4: of the best strip clubs that you can get some

1933
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 4: of the best food from.

1934
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 1: So I can't even hungry.

1935
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 4: I can't think about I always go to the strip

1936
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 4: club to get lamb chops. I'm big on the on

1937
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:02,600
Speaker 4: the on the lamb. So you know, it's like a

1938
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 4: five star restaurant inside the strip club. So we there,

1939
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 4: we're getting this this this lamb. All of a sudden,

1940
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 4: just these drinks come up and the waitress like, yeah,

1941
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 4: so and so about about you a drink. I'm like,

1942
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 4: who the guall over there? All I said, you do?

1943
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 4: My man paid for my meal, lamp paid for my joints.

1944
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 2: Man. I appreciate you, man, that's my dog. Man. I

1945
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 2: ain't seen my guy in a minute.

1946
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 4: Man.

1947
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 1: That is proper stript club.

1948
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:34,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is proper.

1949
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 6: You're partly in them over there, going head and real recognized.

1950
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 6: I ain't got to see these boys every day, but

1951
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 6: when we see each other, pick up right where we

1952
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 6: left off.

1953
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 2: What time? Yeah, you know that you know about strip

1954
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 2: club etiquee in South Dakota. I'm sure.

1955
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 4: I'm sure, Judy, I'm sure, judynew I shake that assure.

1956
01:23:56,560 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 4: I got there with boy, Jennifer, I know not your

1957
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 4: white and I ain't playing like that. We ain't doing

1958
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 4: those games. We don't play like that, Jennifer, to shake

1959
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 4: that ass in South Dakota, you.

1960
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 2: Should have told them when they pulled you over like

1961
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 2: tripping incense.

1962
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 4: Hey, So the fat story, the story, the fact story

1963
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:23,719
Speaker 4: into that is when these motherfuckers are smoking and synthetic

1964
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 4: weed out here smoking that ship, that ship is in sense.

1965
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:32,679
Speaker 4: That ship said that, that ship is in sense.

1966
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 6: Man Nigga starts smoking it sense like when we that's

1967
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 6: that my daddy used to like when he when he

1968
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 6: go to the bathroom or something like when we started

1969
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:45,640
Speaker 6: smoking that sense Jack like a doing that. Listen, I

1970
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 6: should have mother fuckers out here tweaking. I'm not smoking that.

1971
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 6: That's his sense. I just pissed dirty. I just gotta

1972
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:53,839
Speaker 6: piss dirty. I'm not smoking incense.

1973
01:24:58,560 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 2: I take it where do I take it from me?

1974
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 4: That's something because y'all, y'all started the floor the movement

1975
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 4: before Joe Kingdom knowing them started winning them championship, y'all

1976
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 4: went on with to championship.

1977
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:13,759
Speaker 2: How proud of y'all was y'all love them when y'all.

1978
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 4: Was seeing them running off them championships and staying in

1979
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 4: school to stay together to win championship.

1980
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 1: Man, we just talked about that. We thought, I mean,

1981
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 1: obviously he's he's from here. And to see Florida where

1982
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:27,640
Speaker 1: it's at now, Coach Donovan on the podcast not too

1983
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 1: long ago, Like to see where it's been, where it started,

1984
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 1: where it's at now. Like we take a lot of

1985
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 1: pride in that. Obviously it's like no different than anything

1986
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 1: that anyone's ever done. Like, we had options to go

1987
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 1: all the places, and coach Donovan was a thirty year

1988
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 1: old coach started recruiting us and we went there unknown

1989
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 1: man that we we had a chance to win a

1990
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,679
Speaker 1: Natty or our sophomore year lost to Michigan State. Still

1991
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 1: hate them dudes.

1992
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 4: One of the years we beat y'all that sohomore ye

1993
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 4: talked about that would you have?

1994
01:25:56,560 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 2: But I definitely no. First of all, what you did.

1995
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 6: A book this six five motherfucker for a double double show,

1996
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 6: like you can book that was rebound this motherfucker. That

1997
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 6: game just determined there's no way that six fiveuck for

1998
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:18,759
Speaker 6: no rebound.

1999
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 4: Me.

2000
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 6: Yes he did, Yes, he did that, And I didn't

2001
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 6: understand how because at that time of my career I

2002
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 6: didn't have a rebound. This mentality just a dog in it.

2003
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 4: Dogs.

2004
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:31,719
Speaker 2: He told me how the box out on offense.

2005
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 4: They beat the ship out of us, though, and they

2006
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 4: whipped that ass up there.

2007
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 1: Nice of the whip though. They a nice little team though,

2008
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 1: they jumping ask me fierson Y, Yeah, a nice little whip.

2009
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 2: Bobby Yeah, quiet like Simmons, but he was on the team.

2010
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, the US basketball. But to answer your question,

2011
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 1: d like, we take a lot of pride in that,

2012
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like because a lot of

2013
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 1: stuff that we did, if we don't do it, did

2014
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 1: they actually show there? You know, obviously I believe in

2015
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 1: coach Donovan and what he's doing. But it's like anything

2016
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 1: else in life, man, you gotta have a track record,

2017
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 1: and the first person's gotta believe. It's easy once they believe, right,

2018
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 1: and so you know, putting that team together was it

2019
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 1: was fun.

2020
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 2: Man.

2021
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 1: We should have won a Natty, but we came our turn.

2022
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 4: It was crazy.

2023
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:22,640
Speaker 2: That my team pe got them five three. I've seen Teddy.

2024
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 4: Dupe in high school score fifty five.

2025
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 2: He was just insane. Look at theout man, I ain't down.

2026
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,560
Speaker 6: That ship was crazy. One step cross half courty. He

2027
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 6: one step cross half court.

2028
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:37,560
Speaker 4: I see it was go fifty five and it was

2029
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:39,719
Speaker 4: fifty five to the most amazing points.

2030
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 2: Me.

2031
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 6: Let me he believed in himself more than any Listen, listen,

2032
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 6: I could tell the story about Teddy right now. Can

2033
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 6: I tell this story? Of course, Ted and Mike in

2034
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 6: the camp together, and they ended up being roommates. McDonald's

2035
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 6: all American. They're in the fucking camp and McDonald's all

2036
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 6: American together game. I'm already crying from the stories we've

2037
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 6: been telling. You're here, finna make me laugh, Yo. They

2038
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 6: in their their fucking roommates. So Ted looking at the

2039
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:08,560
Speaker 6: paper and they got the rankings on the paper, and

2040
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 6: tes say, this is fucking bullshit.

2041
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 2: What happened?

2042
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 6: Test say, they got you ranked number one and they

2043
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 6: got me ranked number two.

2044
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 4: I'm way fucking better than you. I might have messed

2045
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 4: it up, but that's how it went on.

2046
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 1: Percent just is perfect. But he you know, you know Ted,

2047
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 1: You have to know the story like Ted's fucking crank.

2048
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 1: He believes in himself, right, and I don't know Ted

2049
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 1: for nothing. And we're in there and he's like, man,

2050
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 1: this is some bullshit. I'm like, what's up. He's like, man,

2051
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 1: I'm look at He's looking at the thing, you know,

2052
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 1: the dollars on Marion game. Obviously we played it. You

2053
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 1: has all there and says, man, they got you ranked

2054
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 1: fifth in the country.

2055
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 2: They got me like.

2056
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 1: Twenty seven, and I'm way fucking better than you. Hey, Ted,

2057
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 1: nice to meet you.

2058
01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 2: Man.

2059
01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 6: Listen, let me tell you something about Ted, like he said,

2060
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 6: you got a No Ted, I bet Ted two hundred

2061
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 6: fifty dollars one day in practice and he couldn't dump Ted. No,

2062
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 6: goddamn well he can't dump. But Ted swore me up

2063
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 6: and down that he can fucking dunk the ball. Like

2064
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:15,800
Speaker 6: the unbelievable belief that he has in himself, which is

2065
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 6: great sometimes, which was ridiculous that day when he said

2066
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 6: he was better, way better than this motherfucking man, and

2067
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 6: obviously telling me he could dump. But the belief that

2068
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 6: Ted has in himself, like it's it's unbelieving, unbelievable who

2069
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 6: he was. Oh, he's in tune. He started player for

2070
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 6: the show.

2071
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:32,559
Speaker 4: When he scored fifty five, I just stopped playing.

2072
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 2: Was pissed. We went to the You remember back then

2073
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 2: you could only go like to two games.

2074
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 4: You could go to.

2075
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 5: McDonald's and like one other the Magic round Ball, and

2076
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 5: I went to the We went to the Kentucky Dirt

2077
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 5: Kentucky Derby. He was fucking pissed that I want a

2078
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 5: three point contest. I want everything that wanted dunk contest

2079
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 5: in the m v P. But he couldn't believe that

2080
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 5: I wanted. You know, that was his ship win that

2081
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 5: it did. I wanted like I would don't even a

2082
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 5: shooter back then like that.

2083
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 2: It was like he was fi.

2084
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can see Ted being mad by that ship.

2085
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:08,599
Speaker 6: I can see tbing Man how to fuck you. I'm

2086
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:09,679
Speaker 6: gonna way better shoot.

2087
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 1: Way better than you. Speaking of three point shooting, this

2088
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 1: next segment of the podcast is brought to you by

2089
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 1: Prize Picks. These are my top five shooters in the league.

2090
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:23,760
Speaker 1: Now I understand something when you see the list. Mine

2091
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 1: has to do with not just percentages, but attempts per game, right,

2092
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 1: because that's a talent. Curry gett up eleven, that's a talent. Obviously,

2093
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 1: that's not gonna be an argument. Curry is never gonna

2094
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 1: be an argument. I want y'all to hear it. Like,

2095
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 1: this is my top five shooters in the league right now,

2096
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 1: presented by Prize Picks. So my list Curry, Kyrie, k

2097
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 1: d Dame, and Desmond Bank. That's my list, y'all, go,

2098
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:47,000
Speaker 1: what's up? Talk to me? But y'all, I like it.

2099
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 4: I just I told you I was.

2100
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 5: I would swap Desmond Bank and put Tray Young. I

2101
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 5: have a problem immediately.

2102
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 1: What's your problem?

2103
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 2: You ain't got no white guys on you. That's what

2104
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say. Get on.

2105
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 6: How you supposed to get one mother fucker while I

2106
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 6: got to do it? Supposed to have three of them

2107
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 6: up there right now? Tyler hero Robinson, you got better shooters.

2108
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 6: No Jays can rap Tyler Herold shooting almost fifty percent

2109
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 6: from three right now? Did you know that I got

2110
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 6: Tyler Heroes shooting almost fifty percent from who taking off ship?

2111
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:18,680
Speaker 6: If I'm telling you somebody shooting almost fifty percent from three,

2112
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 6: to take your fucking pick, because none of them ain't close.

2113
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 1: But so you take them better than any of those

2114
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 1: street for shooters.

2115
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 4: Shooters, said players, We said shooter.

2116
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 1: Shooter, it's a shooter.

2117
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, gotta wing game. If you get along on that

2118
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 4: list too, that I got. I got Luke on that list.

2119
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 4: Take Bain off.

2120
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 1: Lift, that's older. So who who you say names? Who

2121
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:38,639
Speaker 1: are you gonna take off?

2122
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:39,559
Speaker 2: I'm taking Bain off?

2123
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 1: Okay, I can't hold I loved it and I love

2124
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 1: I love him man.

2125
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 2: Obviously I'm not disrespecting him whatever.

2126
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 6: He's having this damn good year and obviously he's hurt

2127
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 6: right now. But with with you know, job being out,

2128
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 6: he was handling his business, so you know what I'm saying.

2129
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 6: I look at that list though, and Bain is the

2130
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 6: only one who not He not the closer. So that's

2131
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 6: why we're Yeah, Trey Young, that's why one of them

2132
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 6: up there. You get them the ball in the game

2133
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:06,919
Speaker 6: and say go get the chick and they shoot. They

2134
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,600
Speaker 6: shoot it too, Luca, So who's going I.

2135
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 2: Like Luca, Luca. We're talking about closing it out.

2136
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying, like, if you had your if

2137
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 1: someone had a gun over your head right now and

2138
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 1: it was and you had to.

2139
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 6: Get one of the mother to make a shot gun

2140
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 6: into my head, I don't want none of the more

2141
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 6: with my life on the line. I want to shoot

2142
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:22,639
Speaker 6: that shot.

2143
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 4: You want me shooting.

2144
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 1: I know you're right.

2145
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:26,400
Speaker 2: I would prefer you to shoot it. But nah, I

2146
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:28,600
Speaker 2: mean I gotta put Hero and Duncan and there. I

2147
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 2: got to like it. I got to like it.

2148
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 6: I gotta tell you, you combine them. Nah, I can't

2149
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 6: combine them. I'm looking for one more to take out.

2150
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 1: I love Luca over doesn't band You got Trey Young

2151
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 1: over d Bank. You're keeping everything else the same.

2152
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:43,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will.

2153
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's thinking about that Luca.

2154
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:47,680
Speaker 1: Now damn, he was thinking about the Luca.

2155
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 2: I can.

2156
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 1: I can think about Tyler. Hear Himduncan wants good. But

2157
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:50,559
Speaker 1: who you taking out?

2158
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 4: I'm taking out KD Man KD.

2159
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:57,640
Speaker 6: We ain't saying scores. We ain't saying basketball players. The

2160
01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 6: word upstairs says shoot tours.

2161
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 5: So that's a shooting competition. Dugan Robinson, Yes, I think

2162
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 5: he would be katy if we just talking about who.

2163
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 5: You think a win in a shooting competition.

2164
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 1: Is different though this I'm talking about this, I swing

2165
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 1: swing to you or you gotta give me something at

2166
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 1: the end of the game, like it's it's it all

2167
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 1: goes into it because shooting is a pressure too, now,

2168
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean, but pressure bus price.

2169
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:24,679
Speaker 6: We know that I'm going with shooters and I'm putting

2170
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:28,559
Speaker 6: I'm putting Hero up there with different were talking about

2171
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 6: like if.

2172
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 5: We just talking about just who shooters, Like if you

2173
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 5: think about if you put these guys in a three

2174
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 5: point contest and then you go top five and no,

2175
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 5: I don't know if I do that because like, see,

2176
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 5: to me, Kyrie is like a k This is what

2177
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 5: I'm about to say, Like he's a He's a funny

2178
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 5: dude because he's more of the he sees any moment,

2179
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 5: like you know what I'm saying, Like he could just

2180
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 5: heat like you got me, Like it's like like that's

2181
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:55,599
Speaker 5: that's like when his superpowers Like don't like that's why

2182
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:59,600
Speaker 5: the end of the game three point because some of

2183
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,600
Speaker 5: the best shooters never won a three point because of

2184
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:04,240
Speaker 5: the moment, you know what I'm saying. So like that's

2185
01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 5: why when you look at like when he won that shot,

2186
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 5: I say, look, I told you, I say that motherfucker

2187
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 5: know how to get a moment. You know how to

2188
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 5: take a moment and make it his own. That's why

2189
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 5: he could probably exist on any type of list because

2190
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 5: he got that sense of like, oh, this is it.

2191
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:18,720
Speaker 2: I'm about to take this shit over.

2192
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:21,639
Speaker 6: Like you know what I'm saying, I gotta take kdo

2193
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:23,639
Speaker 6: because he's only a ten four point six per game.

2194
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 6: That's that's and and once again score basketball player bar none,

2195
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 6: he's up there.

2196
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:32,719
Speaker 2: We're talking about just shooters right now, but he shoot

2197
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:33,679
Speaker 2: mostly jump shots.

2198
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:36,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, but we talking about threes, right we talking about it,

2199
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 6: and put me in that ship. I was clutching fucking

2200
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:44,599
Speaker 6: mid range like what we're doing. You know, we're talking killer,

2201
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 6: we're talking threes. If we're talking three and top talk threes,

2202
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 6: then I gotta go obviously, because if you're talking about

2203
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 6: a three point shooter or just somebody that can shoot,

2204
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 6: we're talking about a three point shooter.

2205
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 2: Ship.

2206
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 6: Look at the attempts of everybody else compared to here.

2207
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 6: Look at Curry attempts at he's three point eleven. If

2208
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 6: your steph, Kurry getting eleven up is amazing, but look

2209
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 6: at that.

2210
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 1: You know that's what you know?

2211
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:08,600
Speaker 4: Did you ever shoot eleven threes? No?

2212
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 1: I mean I shot left. I never my most probably

2213
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 1: sixty game game in the game, yeah, eighteen, But you played.

2214
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:17,040
Speaker 2: You played with a new.

2215
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 4: Type of did you ever put up eleven?

2216
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I shot eleven, Yeah, but not very often,

2217
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:27,920
Speaker 1: not like not average eleven per game a game.

2218
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:31,960
Speaker 2: Listen, listen, Phoenix was let it fly like Payton, Man.

2219
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 4: That's the one thing outside of Phoenix, anywhere.

2220
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:35,160
Speaker 2: Else did you shoot?

2221
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 4: I shot a lot of threes like that a couple

2222
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 4: of times. And in New York, I don't let me

2223
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 4: shoot three like I got double figures up.

2224
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:43,599
Speaker 2: It's easy. You shoot that motherfucker in Phoenix.

2225
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 1: That was the one thing, man, when I was being

2226
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 1: a free agent and D'Ann Tony thing, That's one thing

2227
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 1: intrigues me, man, because I saw that ship was like,

2228
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 1: beat that up.

2229
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:56,679
Speaker 6: Tony, because when we used to play Phoenix, his scout

2230
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 6: report was I don't know why he thought that the

2231
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:00,720
Speaker 6: best way to win was to leave me open. I

2232
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 6: understand we had shot. I understand we had shot, but

2233
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 6: you're trying me. It's just the most disrespectful ship ever

2234
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 6: in life. If you think that this is the skyt

2235
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:09,479
Speaker 6: report to beat us. I used to want to beat that.

2236
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 4: I took it personally.

2237
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 6: I just want to beat that motherfuck up, like you

2238
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 6: think that I'm the motherfucker that's gonna be the most

2239
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 6: fucking I used to take. I used to I just

2240
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,640
Speaker 6: want to beat that Tony the fuck up to this day, bro,

2241
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:22,719
Speaker 6: And it's no I didn't. I didn't like D'Ann Toni

2242
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:25,440
Speaker 6: for that. Like you think that I'm the weak motherfucker.

2243
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:26,560
Speaker 6: That's that's who you're gonna go for.

2244
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 4: Tell you what that was.

2245
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:29,639
Speaker 1: That's all analytics. D'Antoni is like, we'll give up a twelve.

2246
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 6: Fuck okay, well, Indiana had analytics. You see what we

2247
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:36,920
Speaker 6: did today, Well, third team for fourteen. Hey, analytics, that's what.

2248
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 6: Analytics got your ass and then your dumb ass tried

2249
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 6: it again the very next year. You came back with

2250
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:44,920
Speaker 6: the exact same game plan. We don't even open again,

2251
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:49,599
Speaker 6: got your ass lit up again. I don't understand those analytics.

2252
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:52,559
Speaker 6: That ship made me not like people, because you're trying

2253
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:54,800
Speaker 6: to fucking embarrassment. That's what you're trying to do. You're

2254
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 6: trying to embarrass me, treat me like a fucking non

2255
01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:59,160
Speaker 6: player on the NBA court. You're trying to fucking embarrassment.

2256
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:00,719
Speaker 6: I just wanted that to make.

2257
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 4: Your coach take you out the game, make the coach

2258
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:06,639
Speaker 4: take Yeah, you're trying to fucking embarrass me, bro, what's

2259
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 4: your deal with with with ticket?

2260
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:10,960
Speaker 1: In Paul, what's your deal with ticket?

2261
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:13,519
Speaker 6: Put that ship up there, we'll show what the deal is.

2262
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 6: It started with you, It started with me, started with you.

2263
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 6: We're gonna put it on you started all that ship did?

2264
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 1: Oh we go?

2265
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:20,880
Speaker 2: How you know me?

2266
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 4: Man? I was always I was always.

2267
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2268
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 6: I got receipts. We got receipts for show. We're gonna show.

2269
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:30,800
Speaker 6: We're gonna show black. We're gonna clear it right now.

2270
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:32,920
Speaker 6: We can see what we're gonna see. All that ship started.

2271
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 6: Interview started with him and Paul.

2272
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 4: First.

2273
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:38,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what that what they had going on,

2274
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:41,720
Speaker 2: but you know me, ship right around takes as for

2275
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:42,040
Speaker 2: your dog.

2276
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 4: We're talking about what happened. That started from summer times

2277
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:45,720
Speaker 4: in Chicago.

2278
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:47,519
Speaker 2: So that's where his ship started.

2279
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 4: Faul ship talking.

2280
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:52,960
Speaker 6: He started that ship and got me in on that ship.

2281
01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:54,600
Speaker 6: He'll go right here and they seen each other and

2282
01:37:55,160 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 6: there here it is, here we go.

2283
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:06,640
Speaker 2: You're rich. Fuck him now here, keep now here. I

2284
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 2: come now, KG Now you have turned his head. He

2285
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 2: don't want none of that.

2286
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:13,559
Speaker 4: Now you're looking the other way the other way. I'm right, well, I'm.

2287
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 6: Supposed to be. I don't know why big Baby took

2288
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 6: that straight. I pushed him all over the place.

2289
01:38:18,479 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 1: Look at it.

2290
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 2: Why should I do? Why should I do the big

2291
01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 2: baby here? Why should I do?

2292
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:22,599
Speaker 4: Big Baby?

2293
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:23,920
Speaker 2: I pushed his ass down?

2294
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:28,479
Speaker 5: So, oh yeah, show that interview. That interview was funny.

2295
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:33,880
Speaker 5: It was yours, an interview with the tank top of.

2296
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:35,840
Speaker 4: The game.

2297
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:38,400
Speaker 1: I gotta hear the interview.

2298
01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 2: I got interview.

2299
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:42,400
Speaker 1: How funny was seeing jamalma, Oh.

2300
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:45,320
Speaker 6: God, he caught you and what I pushed the motherfucker.

2301
01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 6: I put you baby down on the ground.

2302
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:49,759
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Jamal mcglory was the best.

2303
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 6: Watch this big baby. You ain't deserve that straight, but

2304
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 6: she was in the round place. Push him down and

2305
01:38:57,080 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 6: try to track the trailer his ass. You're lucky Big

2306
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:01,960
Speaker 6: I didn't get involved in. But see, my thing was,

2307
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 6: I didn't even want Big Baby. He just got in

2308
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:04,080
Speaker 6: the way I was trying.

2309
01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:04,600
Speaker 2: I was looking for.

2310
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:07,400
Speaker 6: I was going for number five, That's who I was

2311
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:09,040
Speaker 6: going for. I wanted to try to catch number five.

2312
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:10,680
Speaker 1: So that goes back to your question. Then, I don't

2313
01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:12,600
Speaker 1: know what is it with me?

2314
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 3: Me?

2315
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:17,720
Speaker 1: Like I have question the question you asked and to

2316
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:19,559
Speaker 1: get on the show the question you asked him.

2317
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:20,599
Speaker 4: What's what's good?

2318
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 2: I seen he has some some smoke full.

2319
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:23,760
Speaker 4: I thing is.

2320
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:28,640
Speaker 6: With with ticket, It's just that. I understand you got

2321
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 6: to hype yourself up. I understand we all we're all

2322
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:33,160
Speaker 6: our own biggest fan. But the ship, that man said

2323
01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:36,600
Speaker 6: his mouth, you can't say that. That's just one straight up.

2324
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:37,240
Speaker 6: That's all it is.

2325
01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:40,760
Speaker 2: It's just that something. He never said it to me.

2326
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 4: Black just talk.

2327
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:44,760
Speaker 6: He never said it to me. He said to other

2328
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 6: people on my team. Okay, you know what I'm saying.

2329
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 6: But where I'm from, man, you just can't do that. Bro,

2330
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:50,840
Speaker 6: you get the whole part. Shut up talking like that.

2331
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:53,559
Speaker 6: You talked that ship like how he talked to people.

2332
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 6: I'll be right back. That's what's gonna happen like And

2333
01:39:57,160 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 6: I just I just the rules just applied for me

2334
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:02,960
Speaker 6: all the way up. I never was talking disrespectful. I

2335
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 6: never tried nobody. Now, if you started that ship, then

2336
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 6: we're gonna we're gonna.

2337
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 2: Take it there.

2338
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:09,759
Speaker 6: But I've never was talked to talk crazy and disrepp

2339
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 6: bit your hair, nigger tastes like fruit loops and all

2340
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 6: the crazy ship that come out this man mouth. And

2341
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:19,719
Speaker 6: I'm saying myself. I'd be looking around like yo, nigga

2342
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:23,120
Speaker 6: tripping bro and then and then didn't get to the

2343
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 6: point where he'd be saying it so much. I'd be like, Yo,

2344
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:25,920
Speaker 6: who you talking to?

2345
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 2: Talk to me? I just want to understand. He was

2346
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:31,160
Speaker 2: never talking to me. But so he can't say it

2347
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:33,000
Speaker 2: on the court. I ain't never said that ship.

2348
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 4: He said directly that, no teammates and nothing, No, not me.

2349
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:37,800
Speaker 6: He said it to Chris Bosh. You say crazy ship

2350
01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 6: Chris Brush all the time. He say crazy shit to

2351
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 6: Chris Bush all the time. You know what I'm saying.

2352
01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:44,479
Speaker 6: So that was that, And that's my teammate.

2353
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:45,200
Speaker 2: And I was.

2354
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:47,680
Speaker 6: I used to beg for c B. Just anything, any

2355
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:50,800
Speaker 6: kind of rebuttal fuck you just thaw some ship. Yeah,

2356
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:52,760
Speaker 6: just say something. See I got your back. So it's

2357
01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 6: a ship pop off.

2358
01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:54,280
Speaker 4: Don't you worry. I'm here.

2359
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:56,639
Speaker 2: But you got to say something. You know what I'm saying.

2360
01:40:56,720 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 2: But just the level of disrespect.

2361
01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:01,280
Speaker 6: Man, But as a basketball player, as a basketball player,

2362
01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 6: now you got you can't not what the ticket? Did

2363
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying as a as a hook

2364
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 6: but that crazy shit he used to say his mouth,

2365
01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:09,760
Speaker 6: I can't go for that under no circumstances. You know

2366
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 6: what I'm saying now, Paul, that's just a part of

2367
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 6: the rivalry. At the end of the day, it's fucked

2368
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:18,080
Speaker 6: the whole other side, not just half. You know what

2369
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 6: I'm saying.

2370
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:19,040
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2371
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:20,760
Speaker 6: I don't know how to put one foot in and

2372
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:22,759
Speaker 6: one foot out of that. Like, if that's your man's

2373
01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 6: and I don't fuck with him, then nine times out

2374
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 6: of ten, no, not nine, ten times out of ten,

2375
01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 6: I probably.

2376
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 2: Don't fuck with you, m hm.

2377
01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:32,880
Speaker 6: And at the end of the day, his situation kickstarted

2378
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:35,480
Speaker 6: the whole thing, and that just gave me an opportunity

2379
01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 6: to act on the ship.

2380
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:38,599
Speaker 5: I was already feeling anyway. People like you saw when

2381
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:40,840
Speaker 5: they were swing on the thing. They thought like it

2382
01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 5: was like something real deep with me and Paul, like

2383
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 5: somebody took somebody's girls. And it was all type of

2384
01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 5: rumors because like we went for years, we would get

2385
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 5: double tats, get thrown out, We gotta kicked game and

2386
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 5: Madison Square Garden on mlk D.

2387
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:56,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, that sh that was him.

2388
01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 2: I was there.

2389
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, he started that ship, but I was just there.

2390
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:05,639
Speaker 6: But he I thought I thought he had something. Paul

2391
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 6: just like he said, So my thing was never with Paul.

2392
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:09,760
Speaker 6: Paul was just on the other side of that ship.

2393
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:12,040
Speaker 6: But like I said, Ticket, that be talking great, I

2394
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 6: can't go for that.

2395
01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:14,960
Speaker 2: That's funny. I can't go for that.

2396
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:16,600
Speaker 6: I mean, you've just seen something talking about it the

2397
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:19,200
Speaker 6: other day on the podcast of How This Ship. Ticket

2398
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 6: used to say, you know what I'm saying, your niggas

2399
01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:24,360
Speaker 6: that nigga sweek what first of.

2400
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:28,479
Speaker 4: All, but you like when I play against he always talked,

2401
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 4: but I never.

2402
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:33,560
Speaker 5: Never was talking to me. Yeah, like me and you D,

2403
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:37,560
Speaker 5: me and U D was them people that, Yeah, we

2404
01:42:39,720 --> 01:42:41,800
Speaker 5: ship like he could be over there around the corner

2405
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:42,839
Speaker 5: talking some ship.

2406
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:48,760
Speaker 4: Hold on talking to We need to understand put the

2407
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 4: name with that sacrefade us that he's doing that. Yeah,

2408
01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:55,680
Speaker 4: it's just like whoever, like you have seen me do

2409
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:57,559
Speaker 4: this before, Like look at this motherfucker.

2410
01:42:57,720 --> 01:42:59,240
Speaker 2: He thinks I'm gonna be at.

2411
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:01,720
Speaker 4: Cause he used to dunk and be like bitch ass

2412
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:06,080
Speaker 4: you know, and whoever, it wouldn't even but it don't

2413
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 4: even be a dunk Black, It ain't even a dump.

2414
01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 4: We just said it.

2415
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:12,240
Speaker 6: Were just sitting We're just in the middle of the player.

2416
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 6: This nigga sweet, come to me, Let me get it,

2417
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:15,720
Speaker 6: Let me get it. I gotta sweet motherfucker on me

2418
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:19,559
Speaker 6: right now. Throw me the ball, Throw me the ball. Nigga,

2419
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:25,640
Speaker 6: fuck the ball. You know what I'm saying. That that

2420
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 6: kind of shit.

2421
01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:28,439
Speaker 5: I think that's when you look at it, that's the

2422
01:43:28,479 --> 01:43:30,439
Speaker 5: biggest Like when you talk about I was talking about

2423
01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:32,120
Speaker 5: this about part the other day, Like that's one of

2424
01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:35,519
Speaker 5: the biggest differences in the era that we're in now,

2425
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:39,080
Speaker 5: in our era, Like the ship he talking about, I

2426
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:40,960
Speaker 5: know him, and I used to do it, and I

2427
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:42,680
Speaker 5: know other players from my era that would do it.

2428
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 5: He's the type of person that he could be sitting

2429
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:48,320
Speaker 5: at the crib and he watching it on TV.

2430
01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:51,600
Speaker 3: Talking about that dumb ass like they ain't going that

2431
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 3: fuck like he hyped, like he we had that era.

2432
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:57,680
Speaker 5: We had people in the league that would get agitated

2433
01:43:57,720 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 5: sitting at home watching that shit on TV and carry

2434
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:01,280
Speaker 5: that ship to the reading when we go see the

2435
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:03,400
Speaker 5: motherfuckers next time, try that ship tonight.

2436
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 4: All that ship he was talking up. We're talking about teams,

2437
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 4: like talking to your teams like like how many how

2438
01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:14,200
Speaker 4: many years you've been out of the league since how

2439
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:14,679
Speaker 4: many years?

2440
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:15,720
Speaker 2: You don't know.

2441
01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 4: He just went to the finals and he ain't even

2442
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:23,080
Speaker 4: a full year out the league. So he still got

2443
01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:25,600
Speaker 4: the ship, and it takes it's gonna take him like

2444
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:28,080
Speaker 4: like four or five years. So he finally just let

2445
01:44:28,160 --> 01:44:28,560
Speaker 4: it all go.

2446
01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:31,560
Speaker 2: And you see how right now he still got it

2447
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 2: in him.

2448
01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:34,240
Speaker 4: He still got the competitors, but it's gonna take him

2449
01:44:34,240 --> 01:44:35,680
Speaker 4: for five years to finally.

2450
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 2: Just let it go.

2451
01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 4: Like, man, let me know this.

2452
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:39,599
Speaker 1: Over here, he tapped me onto the table. Hey watch

2453
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 1: this ship.

2454
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:46,960
Speaker 6: Watch up, it's the same ship that happened with the white. Dude,

2455
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:48,720
Speaker 6: that that little thing that happened with me and the white.

2456
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:50,479
Speaker 6: It was like what you said. I stay at home.

2457
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:52,439
Speaker 6: I watch a lot of basketball. You all know how

2458
01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:54,360
Speaker 6: the white is on the rebound. He'll grab you, you

2459
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:56,040
Speaker 6: sling you down, and all that ship. So I've been

2460
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 6: watching this man do this ship all year the people.

2461
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:01,600
Speaker 6: So when I get to the game, I know, goddamn well,

2462
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:03,360
Speaker 6: he's finna try me like this not to know he

2463
01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 6: ain't this mother fucking that got the nerd. Now, if

2464
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:10,160
Speaker 6: you look at the video, I shook my head. I said, noah,

2465
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 6: because I was playing well, you know, I don't play

2466
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:14,360
Speaker 6: that much at that time. But I'm playing, well do

2467
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:15,720
Speaker 6: I want to funk up what I got going on

2468
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:17,960
Speaker 6: right now? And I think to myself, how I teach

2469
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:19,920
Speaker 6: my young fellers. Don't let nobody fuck with you, try you,

2470
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 6: because if you do, they gonna keep doing it. At

2471
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 6: that point, the decision was made. I got a POKEHM

2472
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:27,559
Speaker 6: in his fucking eye, POKEM in his fucking eye. If

2473
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:29,439
Speaker 6: I can't, I poke your fucking eyeball through your head.

2474
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:31,479
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. Because I asked him, I

2475
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:33,839
Speaker 6: say come on, I say come on, and I approached

2476
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:35,040
Speaker 6: him on some g ship. I come on with the

2477
01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 6: white man. We oh, geez man with that bullshit like we.

2478
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:38,240
Speaker 4: Ain't on that man?

2479
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:41,360
Speaker 6: What we're doing? Dog, Well, what you're gonna do? What

2480
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:43,320
Speaker 6: I'm gonna do? Then I'm poke your fucking eye.

2481
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:46,560
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this since ya I said that

2482
01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 4: James H James Johnson, Uh, yeah what you and said?

2483
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:57,240
Speaker 4: Because yeah, man, I love James. He's such a good dude,

2484
01:45:57,360 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 4: really good. Was like a real good dude like him

2485
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:05,840
Speaker 4: and his family. He always family or he always respectful. Man,

2486
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:09,120
Speaker 4: I love dude. Yeah. You think Jannis would do that

2487
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:10,040
Speaker 4: same ship again?

2488
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:13,640
Speaker 2: Hell no, under no circumstances That's why Indiana went and

2489
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:14,200
Speaker 2: signed JJ.

2490
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:15,400
Speaker 4: They knew what time it was.

2491
01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:17,439
Speaker 6: That shit happened the next day, So motherfucker in the

2492
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:20,760
Speaker 6: locker when they went and got JJ. Hell no, they

2493
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:24,200
Speaker 6: would to up and knots he would have read up

2494
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:26,720
Speaker 6: in with that ship under those circumstances.

2495
01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:30,960
Speaker 1: And the funny thing is it's literally a week after

2496
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 1: that happened. Orlando's playing Indiana and all right, and there's

2497
01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:36,760
Speaker 1: some ship that happened at the end of the half,

2498
01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:39,519
Speaker 1: and the only person that's stood at the center court

2499
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:40,840
Speaker 1: where everyone's getting off the court was.

2500
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:47,799
Speaker 4: I said, exactly why understand that he ain't playing a bullshit.

2501
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:49,479
Speaker 6: He understands what his role is now. You know what

2502
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 6: I'm saying. I understand where his role is now being

2503
01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:53,720
Speaker 6: in Indiana. And while he's there, you know he's there

2504
01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:55,760
Speaker 6: to be a mentor O GI, but he also there

2505
01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:57,160
Speaker 6: to be an enforced It's.

2506
01:46:57,040 --> 01:46:59,439
Speaker 4: Good to, you know, be in that rolling collect two

2507
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:01,400
Speaker 4: men that line sit on the count.

2508
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 2: Here. I know what I want to ask you. Oh,

2509
01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:04,479
Speaker 2: here we go.

2510
01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:06,720
Speaker 5: I know what I want to ask you because I

2511
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:09,800
Speaker 5: know I know I about lost my damn mind. I

2512
01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:12,400
Speaker 5: hear I gotta read the text. I actually sent to him.

2513
01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:15,040
Speaker 5: When Spoe got that bring struck backed up on him.

2514
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:23,040
Speaker 1: Congratulations.

2515
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:26,639
Speaker 4: What I told I texted him, I said, God damn Spo.

2516
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:29,400
Speaker 2: And you know, like we know he ain't spending none

2517
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 2: of that.

2518
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:32,320
Speaker 4: Look, I said, when he.

2519
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:37,240
Speaker 2: Got gonna pass away at one eighteen, you know he's

2520
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:40,000
Speaker 2: gonna have He's gonna pass away to what a He's

2521
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:42,599
Speaker 2: spending no money I'm having for man, well deserved. It's

2522
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:45,000
Speaker 2: a well fucking deserve. I was the beginning.

2523
01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:47,040
Speaker 6: I watched the whole process. I watched the evolution of

2524
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 6: I watched the growth of Spoe.

2525
01:47:48,680 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

2526
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 6: That motherfucker is amazing when it comes to x's and

2527
01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:54,360
Speaker 6: o's and figuring out how to maximize the opportunities and

2528
01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:56,080
Speaker 6: the and the and the talent level of the team.

2529
01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So I was been there

2530
01:47:58,600 --> 01:47:59,680
Speaker 2: with him the whole time. Man.

2531
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:02,080
Speaker 1: The funny thing is when you were talking about who's

2532
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:03,840
Speaker 1: gonna come out of the East and you and you

2533
01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:07,160
Speaker 1: said Miami obviously on seven game series, like you can't discount.

2534
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:13,200
Speaker 1: And that's why he got one twenty. Yeah, because you

2535
01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:15,639
Speaker 1: have a seven game series, they have a chance. He's

2536
01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:18,479
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna kill people in between games, like in

2537
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:20,439
Speaker 1: game adjustments and between game adjustments.

2538
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:23,120
Speaker 2: He's the lader, and we got a secret weapon me motherfucker.

2539
01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:27,960
Speaker 4: Oh damn crazy, Like, So what's your percentage on what's

2540
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:30,640
Speaker 4: your percentage on that? On what he got that one

2541
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:31,440
Speaker 4: twenty Because.

2542
01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:34,160
Speaker 2: I wish black boy I would take I take point

2543
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:36,519
Speaker 2: five five.

2544
01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 4: I wish I would.

2545
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:40,880
Speaker 6: I wish we was a package deal them, he said

2546
01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:42,200
Speaker 6: at the front of the bench. I said, at the end,

2547
01:48:42,479 --> 01:48:44,280
Speaker 6: everything in the middle we kept, We kept that ship.

2548
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:47,040
Speaker 6: I should have got something that they work like that.

2549
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:49,920
Speaker 5: He listen, like he said, I got so much respect

2550
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:53,519
Speaker 5: for like the crazy thing. Like my relationship was you

2551
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 5: think I played like six years here or something. I

2552
01:48:56,360 --> 01:48:59,200
Speaker 5: wasn't he but win you Spoke wanted to beat up Mike.

2553
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:04,360
Speaker 5: I had to put that out there. What's show relationship

2554
01:49:04,400 --> 01:49:05,040
Speaker 5: with Spoke.

2555
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:09,559
Speaker 4: Man?

2556
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:12,680
Speaker 1: I love? No, it's just competitive ship, you know, I mean, like,

2557
01:49:13,720 --> 01:49:15,559
Speaker 1: you come here, you want to you want to bump

2558
01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:17,840
Speaker 1: like like it was a tough one. I was beside

2559
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:19,760
Speaker 1: the injured lot, but I didn't I didn't get to

2560
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:23,000
Speaker 1: play time. But that was thankful.

2561
01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:26,760
Speaker 5: Went to squall, had to get the gloves. I was

2562
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:31,040
Speaker 5: but that's that's what else I respect about. Like you

2563
01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 5: remember I used to get into it with SPO a lot. Yeah,

2564
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:35,479
Speaker 5: I used to, like but like Broth knew my heart

2565
01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:37,360
Speaker 5: was in the right place. So he allowed that, and

2566
01:49:37,479 --> 01:49:41,000
Speaker 5: he would exact like that, Like I respect coaches just

2567
01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:43,320
Speaker 5: like that. That allowed men to be men as long

2568
01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:45,160
Speaker 5: as you ain't doing no dumb ass stupid ship and

2569
01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:45,960
Speaker 5: sucking up the ship.

2570
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:49,479
Speaker 4: But like he allowed that, he welcomed that, challenged me.

2571
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:51,760
Speaker 4: He gonna go back and forth whatever he fuck you,

2572
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 4: fuck you, and then it's all good. That ship was

2573
01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:54,599
Speaker 4: left yesterday.

2574
01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:56,640
Speaker 5: He ain't gonna come in and tomorrow and try and

2575
01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:58,240
Speaker 5: teat you like ship because y'all got into it.

2576
01:49:58,360 --> 01:50:01,920
Speaker 2: He ain't coach where they using NB a detrimental to

2577
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:06,880
Speaker 2: the team? To the team.

2578
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:08,439
Speaker 4: When I first got hit with that, I was like,

2579
01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:12,200
Speaker 4: what is that detrimental to the team? What? What?

2580
01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:12,400
Speaker 3: What?

2581
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:14,800
Speaker 5: One of my first thoughts was because like when he

2582
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:16,880
Speaker 5: got the one twenty, I was like, so damn, like

2583
01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:20,479
Speaker 5: what that means for the assistant coaches because I could have.

2584
01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:22,320
Speaker 4: Been one of them? Like did I up?

2585
01:50:22,439 --> 01:50:28,400
Speaker 2: Like remember you get me? Like what is that's a

2586
01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:29,240
Speaker 2: great question? Curious?

2587
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:33,280
Speaker 6: I don't know how to work. But we got a

2588
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:35,679
Speaker 6: great staff. You know what I'm saying, so amazing. Everybody

2589
01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:39,960
Speaker 6: has been everybody has been part of the success. Yeah Quinn, Yeah,

2590
01:50:40,240 --> 01:50:42,920
Speaker 6: c B Now my pay grade, C Rich. I wish

2591
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 6: I wish I knew that else.

2592
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:45,400
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.

2593
01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:47,519
Speaker 4: That was one of my like after the initial like

2594
01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:50,200
Speaker 4: how I thought about it. I was like, wait a minute, damn,

2595
01:50:50,439 --> 01:50:51,200
Speaker 4: does that mean.

2596
01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:56,080
Speaker 6: Get We're gonna find out about how they approached the

2597
01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:57,040
Speaker 6: rest of the season.

2598
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:00,000
Speaker 2: The boys practice.

2599
01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:05,240
Speaker 6: Hey, we don't find that with the boy man, look

2600
01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:07,559
Speaker 6: like we see that intensity. But I gotta I gotta

2601
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:09,920
Speaker 6: imagine that at some point those guys are gonna be

2602
01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:12,000
Speaker 6: taken care of or they're gonna have opportunity to go

2603
01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:13,519
Speaker 6: somewhere else and and be taking care of.

2604
01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:15,200
Speaker 4: So you know, that's part of her business. You know,

2605
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:17,400
Speaker 4: That's how that ship up. I was. I was glad

2606
01:51:17,439 --> 01:51:18,040
Speaker 4: to see that man.

2607
01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:20,719
Speaker 1: So he never got the credit he deserves.

2608
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:21,120
Speaker 4: Never.

2609
01:51:21,560 --> 01:51:23,240
Speaker 6: Never when you look at all those coaches out there,

2610
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:26,960
Speaker 6: the papavich and and the money guy Steve Kerr, Like

2611
01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:30,760
Speaker 6: conversation wise, he was always up there. Financially, he was

2612
01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:32,840
Speaker 6: never up there. I don't know for whatever reason, but

2613
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:35,479
Speaker 6: he is now ship he does past everybody. So shout

2614
01:51:35,479 --> 01:51:41,040
Speaker 6: out to spoke man, dog Man supposed to nose let

2615
01:51:41,120 --> 01:51:41,959
Speaker 6: me hold something.

2616
01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:43,360
Speaker 2: Fellas man.

2617
01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:46,760
Speaker 1: We appreciate y'all. We consider to do this all damn day.

2618
01:51:47,240 --> 01:51:49,920
Speaker 1: Oh geez man. We appreciate y'all coming in. Knucklehead check

2619
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:52,560
Speaker 1: y'all out man elite, but thank you so much for

2620
01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:52,920
Speaker 1: coming in.

2621
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:55,880
Speaker 6: I want question y'all been doing the obviously get the

2622
01:51:56,560 --> 01:52:01,439
Speaker 6: knuckleheads man four years obviously like everything that, the ups

2623
01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:03,040
Speaker 6: and it downs. You know what I'm saying, what advice

2624
01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 6: would y'all have for us who's just getting into the

2625
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:08,439
Speaker 6: podcast game, the podcast life. You know what I'm saying

2626
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:11,880
Speaker 6: on camera off camera? What advice would y'all have for

2627
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:13,640
Speaker 6: us moving forward and.

2628
01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:19,000
Speaker 4: Embrace the responsibility of it? Cause I feel like that's

2629
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:22,560
Speaker 4: what me and Q it just felt like that, you know,

2630
01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:27,160
Speaker 4: were a brotherhood. We love having conversations with with y'all.

2631
01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:29,320
Speaker 4: Like I say, we can talk hours and hours and

2632
01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:33,240
Speaker 4: hours and just embrace it, you know, embrace everybody's story

2633
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:35,479
Speaker 4: to get it out there, to help it get out there,

2634
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:39,160
Speaker 4: cause you know, everybody ain't Lebron James or everybody not

2635
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:42,560
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan, and all of us got stories. You know

2636
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:44,639
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. All of us might not be Hall

2637
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:46,519
Speaker 4: of Famers, but all of us got stories. So we

2638
01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:50,400
Speaker 4: embraced that, and we feel like it's a responsibility. So

2639
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:53,000
Speaker 4: as long as y'all feel like it's responsibility and y'all

2640
01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:55,120
Speaker 4: feel like y'all embracing it, I feel like it's that's

2641
01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:56,320
Speaker 4: a dope way to look into it.

2642
01:52:57,080 --> 01:53:01,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that. Like whatever, whatever y'all angle.

2643
01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:04,679
Speaker 5: However, y'all, you know what I'm saying, whatever y'all purpose

2644
01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:06,400
Speaker 5: of it is, just stay down with it, you know

2645
01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:10,639
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like, don't cause it's the space is crazy, crowded,

2646
01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:14,240
Speaker 5: it's crazy just every other day it's whatever, and it's

2647
01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:14,840
Speaker 5: it's cool.

2648
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:15,640
Speaker 2: We all could do it.

2649
01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:19,080
Speaker 5: But it's like you find you sometimes what I see

2650
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:22,120
Speaker 5: is people doing things for it clicks, you know what

2651
01:53:22,120 --> 01:53:23,719
Speaker 5: I'm saying, doing it for the don't don't.

2652
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:25,960
Speaker 2: I ain't got to worry about that with y'all.

2653
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:28,360
Speaker 5: I know y'all, But like that, that's my advice to anybody,

2654
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:31,080
Speaker 5: Like don't don't try and jump on trends or do

2655
01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:32,920
Speaker 5: shit to get clicks, cause like, at the end of

2656
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:35,360
Speaker 5: the day, that shit gonna come and go, you know

2657
01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:37,000
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. But like and most of it, if

2658
01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 5: we being real, most of the shit that really gets

2659
01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:41,240
Speaker 5: picked up as bullshit, you know what I'm saying, it's

2660
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:43,800
Speaker 5: like the bullshit, And like I feel like when he

2661
01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:46,840
Speaker 5: say the responsibility, that's our responsibility is to stay away

2662
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:50,160
Speaker 5: from the bullshit and deliver just good shit. Like when

2663
01:53:50,160 --> 01:53:51,680
Speaker 5: we sit down and we sit down with any of

2664
01:53:51,760 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 5: our peers, were gonna try and glorify them to the

2665
01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:56,680
Speaker 5: highest because, like he said, regardless if you was an

2666
01:53:56,680 --> 01:53:59,400
Speaker 5: all start Hall of Fame whatever, like you still did

2667
01:53:59,439 --> 01:54:01,800
Speaker 5: some incredible shit. It's less than five thousand of us.

2668
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:04,560
Speaker 5: My boy just walking around his planet period forever, and

2669
01:54:05,760 --> 01:54:09,240
Speaker 5: one of us got crazy detailed stories that if people

2670
01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:11,320
Speaker 5: got to hear it, we'd enjoy it in one way

2671
01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:13,880
Speaker 5: or another. From the way we came up from, you know,

2672
01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:16,120
Speaker 5: their personalities or whatever, and what people had to go

2673
01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 5: through like all that shit. We feel like if we

2674
01:54:18,520 --> 01:54:19,960
Speaker 5: just sit down and talk to you, ain't got to

2675
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:22,240
Speaker 5: try and get you. We're gonna high let you and

2676
01:54:22,360 --> 01:54:23,639
Speaker 5: get enough good ship.

2677
01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:24,080
Speaker 2: And just let it go.

2678
01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:25,600
Speaker 1: It should be just like when we be having this

2679
01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:27,040
Speaker 1: conversation with cameras worth there.

2680
01:54:27,439 --> 01:54:30,080
Speaker 5: That's what it is and exactly and we you know,

2681
01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:31,800
Speaker 5: we just always try and make sure that when we

2682
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 5: do something with somebody, we don't want to put them

2683
01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:36,000
Speaker 5: in it in no type of way. Like if it's

2684
01:54:36,040 --> 01:54:37,920
Speaker 5: something in the interview that we think is like a

2685
01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:40,600
Speaker 5: we'll take that shit out instead of running it, like

2686
01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:42,120
Speaker 5: we're not gonna run it because we don't want that

2687
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:45,280
Speaker 5: there'd be a lot of bulls should be said thought,

2688
01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:49,720
Speaker 5: because we don't want it to be the lightning ride

2689
01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:52,720
Speaker 5: for controversy. Like we're taking it out because we know

2690
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:55,480
Speaker 5: how we can be when somebody might say something about

2691
01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:56,040
Speaker 5: somebody like.

2692
01:54:56,240 --> 01:54:59,240
Speaker 4: We can't let that one hit the world, like hey, we're.

2693
01:54:59,080 --> 01:54:59,880
Speaker 2: Gonna just keep that one.

2694
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:01,080
Speaker 4: We don't want it to be the.

2695
01:55:01,120 --> 01:55:03,400
Speaker 5: Bullshit, you know, Like so you know just that, but

2696
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:06,040
Speaker 5: that's that's really it, man, Cause it's like you say

2697
01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:09,320
Speaker 5: it's gonna be always and then when you sit down,

2698
01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 5: you might sit down one time and some ship might

2699
01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:13,440
Speaker 5: hit happen like damn, what we gonna do with this?

2700
01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:16,800
Speaker 5: And it's like, you know, the higher RUPs might be like, Yo,

2701
01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:19,400
Speaker 5: this is gonna be but you like, nah, we can't

2702
01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:20,880
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, like, that's why I say

2703
01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:23,760
Speaker 5: just stay down, man, because it's gonna come around anyway.

2704
01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:24,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2705
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:27,160
Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, we appreciate y'all man for us love.

2706
01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, we came through the o G.

2707
01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:29,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2708
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate y'all.

2709
01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:36,879
Speaker 1: Man, appreciate y'all. So that two thousands, Raven two thousand, hold.

2710
01:55:36,680 --> 01:55:40,680
Speaker 2: On, that's all good, man. I was watching, I was watching,

2711
01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:44,400
Speaker 2: You're a part of it was. I was technically.

2712
01:55:46,520 --> 01:55:49,560
Speaker 6: They tried me, Nate, you tried me though you told

2713
01:55:49,600 --> 01:55:51,000
Speaker 6: me it was gonna draft me. I ain't gonna forget

2714
01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:52,320
Speaker 6: that ship. That's how I'm wild.

2715
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:55,160
Speaker 2: On this today.

2716
01:55:55,160 --> 01:55:57,400
Speaker 4: And now get that moment you're talking about.

2717
01:55:57,680 --> 01:56:02,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, when iy my og talking to day as we

2718
01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 6: talked on it, man, and like Black said earlier, man,

2719
01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:07,760
Speaker 6: it's okay to elevate. You know what I'm saying, It's okay,

2720
01:56:07,800 --> 01:56:08,720
Speaker 6: it's okay to elevate.

2721
01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:08,920
Speaker 4: Man.

2722
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:10,720
Speaker 2: Keeping it real can go wrong, man, Stop trying to

2723
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:12,560
Speaker 2: keep it real and just be real. You know what

2724
01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:12,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

2725
01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:14,440
Speaker 6: Stop trying to When you're trying to keep it real,

2726
01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:15,680
Speaker 6: that's when you fuck up.

2727
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:15,920
Speaker 4: Man.

2728
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:17,760
Speaker 2: Don't try to keep it real. Just be real. Keeping

2729
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:18,360
Speaker 2: it real go wrong.

2730
01:56:18,400 --> 01:56:19,040
Speaker 4: A lot of times.

2731
01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:23,120
Speaker 2: Man, it's better to go back and bring people out

2732
01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:24,400
Speaker 2: than to go back and stay.

2733
01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:26,240
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

2734
01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:28,000
Speaker 6: It's better to go back and bring people out than

2735
01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:29,920
Speaker 6: to go back and stay. So keeping it real can

2736
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:31,600
Speaker 6: go wrong. Don't be trying to keep it real in

2737
01:56:31,640 --> 01:56:34,240
Speaker 6: this fucking real. Just be real and be yourself.

2738
01:56:38,160 --> 01:56:38,440
Speaker 2: Today.

2739
01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:41,000
Speaker 1: All right, man, Well appreciate that OG advice. Yes, I

2740
01:56:41,120 --> 01:56:42,960
Speaker 1: tell you what, I'm almost ashamed of myself that we

2741
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:44,960
Speaker 1: were gonna give people that advice.

2742
01:56:45,080 --> 01:56:45,720
Speaker 4: That was my fault.

2743
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:50,920
Speaker 2: Everybody out here want to keep it real, just be real.

2744
01:56:50,960 --> 01:56:52,480
Speaker 1: Anything else before you before we go?

2745
01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:55,080
Speaker 2: I think that's it.

2746
01:56:55,120 --> 01:57:00,280
Speaker 4: Appreciate you Tuesday smokers only O G's out for real.

2747
01:57:00,320 --> 01:57:01,000
Speaker 1: Appreciate you off

2748
01:57:03,480 --> 01:57:07,080
Speaker 5: Yahm