WEBVTT - Beating The Book: 2019 NFL MegaPod Week 5 Preview 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:12.240 Check it on Man Come Down Now Thursday morning, October 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:17.799 The Beating the Book podcast of Megapod Week five, Skill Alexander, 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:20.640 Who's happening? How you doing? Party people on the show today. 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:23.799 Not only a famous rotating guest, but a guest that 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:27.520 we've had on for nine years. He's never too big 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:29.600 to come on the podcast. We love him for it. 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:31.680 First of all, the staples of the show. On my 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:34.760 right from Circus Sports Ladies and Gentlemen, he's the conciliary 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:36.720 to Derek Stevens over there. He's also the vice president 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:39.400 of Operations. By a more formal title, he's Mike Palm. 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:42.040 Good morning, Michael, Good morning Gil Very excited to have 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:44.840 Joe joint us this week. Joe people now or they're 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:46.479 like who I think I know who this is? And 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:49.639 on my left from Showtime's docuseries Action and also a 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:51.800 guy who comes on the Numbers game on Visa every 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:56.760 Wednesday during football season, Todd wishnev Hello Todd Todd twelve 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.400 and eight and Circus. That means you get to brag 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:01.920 and boast you're feeling good. Well, I feel like I'm 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:04.920 about to put my new system in place where I 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:09.800 have Mike palm past post me for the last and 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:13.400 I think I'll be the only one who passed posts 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:15.440 and still finds a way to lose. You know, that's 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:17.400 that's funny. But on the other hand, like Mike, is 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:19.800 uncomfortable because you can't really say that out loud because 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:22.640 then it gives the appearance of impropriety, So you can't 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:25.160 really do that. I don't think well, being that they 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:27.039 post all the pics ahead of time, I don't think 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:30.039 it's really post It's probably true. That's probably true. Um, 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.319 before we get a Circuits Sports million update, because we 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:35.440 have a quarterly winner, ladies and gentlemen, somebody who raked 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:39.639 in over a hundred dollars. The rotating guest Mike tipped 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:43.759 us off here. He is the host of Joe Lowan 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:46.479 Dibbs The Game in San Francisco. They do the morning 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:50.440 show over there. Very successful morning show, but for our purposes. 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:55.200 Perhaps more known for his appearances on Daily Wager ESPN 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:57.640 two is Daily Wager, which airs money through Friday, hosted 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:02.400 by Doug Kazarian six pm Easter three pm Pacific. Ladies, gentlemen, 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:05.280 it's Joe forton ball. What's happening to Joseph gil it's 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.440 great to be back. Thank you so much for the 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.280 opportunity to appear on this podcast. I can't believe it's 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.959 been nine years. But more importantly, as I become more 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:17.079 and more famous and successful and I continue to leave 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:20.640 the little people behind me, it becomes very difficult to 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:23.200 book me as a guest. And this is a podcast 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:25.440 that I very easily could have looked past. But when 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:26.959 you told me you got rid of the other two 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:29.160 bombs who used to appear on this thing, I said, 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:31.880 you know what, I'm absolutely in pick any day or time. 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:35.520 Uh and and let's do it. Decide it's good to 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:38.120 be back with you. We did. That was not expected. 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.800 Thank you, Joe. I appreciate that you do not step 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:44.200 on the little people that we are here. Um. By 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:46.880 the way, just on a serious note, are you loving 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:50.840 a daily wager? Does it make you less prepared for 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:53.520 your morning show? Like? How do you juggle all of that? 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:57.200 I love the fact that Okay, so there's there's two 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:00.679 things I love about it. One is this like unintended 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:03.600 consequence that I think the show didn't set out for. 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.480 But it's something that we've been hearing a lot of 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:10.360 from from the viewers and a lot of people who 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:13.519 they're they're learning about sports betting. Sure, but some people 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:16.320 really enjoy the show and they're not even that big 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:18.640 in the sports betting. They just like the fact that 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.320 it's a show that talks about games, right like in 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:23.400 this in this world we live in with the media now, 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:27.000 it's it's the hot take, it's the embased, embraced debate. 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:30.800 There's a lot of controversial conversations and wild statements, and 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:33.560 that's what gets people to tune in. We don't really 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:34.960 do any of that. That's not what the show is. 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.120 That's not what you guys are doing in Vegas. You've 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.360 got games, you're breaking it down, you're trying to find 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.440 the edge. And we've noticed that a lot of the 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:44.640 feedback has been from people who just enjoy hearing about 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.640 the game. So so that has been a lot of fun. 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:50.720 The other part of doing it is that you really 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:53.480 have to be on your toes. A guy like Preston Johnson, 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:56.000 I think is is one of the absolute best in 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:58.680 the business. So if you're gonna appear alongside these guys 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.360 on a regular basis, gotta do your research, You gotta 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.360 do your homework. You can't mail it in, you know, 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:05.160 some guys can just show up on the radio or 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:08.480 whatever and and and get through by saying whatever, that's 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:11.040 that's not how it works. So it's really pushing me 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.440 to try to to do get better at at sports betting, 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:17.680 at researching, at finding what works, and uh, you know, 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:19.880 it's it's a grind, but in a very good way. 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:23.120 It's very enjoyable. I just love seeing sports betting emerge 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:24.520 into what it is. I mean, Gil, you and I 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.200 have been talking about this stuff for years back when 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:28.400 you know, and I kind of had to live in 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.440 the shadows. And now that it's out in the light 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:32.280 and you can you can really start to embrace it. 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:33.920 It's been a lot of fun. Couldn't be happy or 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:37.000 for your success, Joe, Really, I am so happy every 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:40.240 time you you just ascend more and more. That's a 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:42.760 very fascinating point where you just made actually just people 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:44.080 want to hear about games. It's sort of like the 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:46.880 old MTV thing. We just want to see videos every 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:49.560 once in a while, right, and so that there's a 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:53.200 lesserular you think people don't want to hear the five thousand, 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:56.880 four hundred and seventy four iteration of this lebron better 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:00.279 than Michael Jordan's. That is correct, although calling tactic, although 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.080 Colin Coward would tell you right that with his audience, 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:05.839 he knows that that's exactly what they want to hear. 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.359 So it really does you know, It really depends on 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.520 establishing your brand, I guess, and and then if you 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.120 build it, they will come kind of thing um to 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.640 the last part about that, then, Joe, do you find 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:18.120 and I want you to be as honest as you 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.640 could be here because nobody in San Francisco's listening right now, Joe, 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:25.640 but do you find that it enhances your preparation for 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:29.239 your morning show or in some way you just can't 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.000 do it all as well as you could before? I Um, 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:35.720 I I had the morning show prep on a pretty 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:38.680 good schedule, So I think the problem was never going 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:40.440 to be the morning show prep. It was gonna be 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.679 whether or not I was able to create enough time 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.760 to prep for Daily Wager, because it's two very different approaches. 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.960 The morning show is four hours, and three of our 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.800 segments run for fifty or more minutes, so we're not 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.400 doing fifteen minutes on fifteen off. I mean we're going 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.120 for fifty five minutes straight, you know, and then five 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.440 minutes off and then another fifty five minutes. It it 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.279 is a la the Meadi Show. So you're preparing in 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:07.719 a very different way. You have longer, more verbose conversational points, 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:10.520 whereas on Daily Wager it's like, look, you've got thirty 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.600 seconds for this answer. You gotta look good, you've gotta 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.200 sound good, you've got to be accurate, you've got to 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:18.440 pay well, and you've got to get out on time. 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:20.160 And you'll have someone in your ear that I'll tell 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.680 you ten five and you want to be out. So 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.280 it wasn't so much about changing the prep or what 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.359 I needed to do for mornings. I'm coming up on 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.640 five years here. I've got a pretty good sense for 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:31.200 how I need to be ready. It was more about 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.520 Daily Wager, like how I'd be able to create enough 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.040 time to be on top of everything that's happening and 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:39.000 then be prepared to accurately deliver that information in a 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.080 way that can be consumed. You know, it's one thing 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:44.200 to be able to to pick a game correctly, very difficult, 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:45.880 but it's one thing to do that. But then when 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:47.640 you get on TV, Now, how are you going to 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:50.159 present it? If you throw two hundred and thirty five 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:53.279 numbers at somebody, you might lose them in the process. 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.039 So you've got to be able to educate, entertain, in 0:06:56.160 --> 0:07:00.200 form and then also uh, be insightful and accurate. So 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.120 there's a lot going on. But now that I've kind 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:05.000 of got the system down, it's really just eliminating free time. 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:06.880 Like this is the time of year where there's absolutely 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:09.840 absolutely no free time. It's TV, it's radio, and it's 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.600 parenting and husbanding, and that's it. Like there's no going 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:14.840 to the movies or going to the bar anymore. Parenting 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.040 and husbanding. That's, by the way, why Joe I try 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:19.160 to throw a two d thirty six numbers at people 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.520 so that they can really get the full flavor of 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:23.920 a game. Dude, you are You are popular up here too, 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.160 by the way, congratulations on your success. I work with 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.480 I mean, you know Ray Ratto, who's been covering sports 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.840 for a long time. Ray listens to Visa and he 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.920 loves you guys. He always comes in referencing because he's 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.440 on the afternoon show here, so we'll cross over because 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.640 I stay here to do my TV prep and then 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.800 he'll be coming in to do radio prep. He loves Visa. 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:45.040 He he's all over you guys. Oh sweet, that's good 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:50.200 to hear. Good to hear San Francisco newspaper staple, who 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:53.120 has been multimedia there now for some years. All right, 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:55.880 So given then that people just want to hear about games, 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:58.880 let's talk about games. Last thing of business before we 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:02.360 do that. Mike uh circuits Sports million. Quarter of the 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:05.480 season done. Everybody's zero and zero going into the second 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:07.880 quarterly prize. But who won the first quarter? We had 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:11.840 a gentleman out of New Jersey Camden, New Jersey CB Elite. 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:15.480 The team name went seventeen and three, went five and 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:20.240 oh and week four need the the Jacksonville cover. And 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:23.480 then it was him against one of their entry heads 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:26.440 up in the Dallas New Orleans game. He had New Orleans. 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:29.680 So he takes it down, surprising a singular winner. No 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:34.520 pushes there and Uh one thousand, seven hundred fifty dollars. 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.160 He flew in last night from New Jersey. He's getting 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.080 paid on Saturday, but he'll be on my guys in 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:42.679 the desert at three o'clock today. He'll be with us 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:44.600 from Long Bar with Derrick Stevens and I when we 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.360 we do our weekly hit on Thursday. That's on Visa 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:51.120 on Sirius XM channel two oh four. Cool. Congratulations to 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.840 him and Todd. You're five games back, so you're good 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:56.760 for the season. Right now. You're in it, my friend, 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:00.840 I'm in it. Okay, let's start. Let's start with the 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.760 best bets for Week five in the NFL Joe Thursday 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:08.080 Night Football. Oh right, that's the format first before we 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:12.400 go best best any thoughts on Thursday Night Football, Joe anything? Tonight? 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:15.040 It is the Rams at the Seahawks. Actually a really 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:18.000 good game, uh in the NFC West to three and 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.800 one team's Seattle favored right now by one and a 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:24.000 half totals forty. Yeah. I like Seattle here. I do 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:27.679 not trust Jared Golf at Century Link Field in this 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.360 environment tonight, and we saw him the Super Bowl. How 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:33.040 you can confuse him? He is very dependent upon his 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:35.760 communication with Sean McVeigh, the head coach, who makes a 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.240 quick read on the defense and then tries to relay 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:42.040 in information to mcveigh's or to Golf so he can 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.839 make the proper determinations. It's very college like the way 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.360 they've coached him up, but Belichick and the Super Bowl 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:49.160 just came up with a simple solution to that. He 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.959 muddled the defense and he didn't have them properly aligned 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.640 until very late in the play clock, so Golf couldn't 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.280 make accurate reads that came in from McVeigh and as 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.320 a result, they were held to what three points in 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:02.560 that game. Communication is gonna be very difficult tonight. That's 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:05.320 only the second biggest problem for Jared Golf. The first 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:09.720 big problem is that this offense, much like the Dallas offense, 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.400 runs through the running back. You don't see that around 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.120 the NFL in this day and age. Kansas City runs 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:18.120 through Mahomes, Philadelphia runs through Went, and on and on 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:21.440 down the list. Dallas with Elliott, and the Rams with 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.760 Gurly or formally Girly because he's got problems that with 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.760 that me Those offenses run through the running back, and 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:31.079 when they can't establish the running game, the quarterback falters. 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:33.439 You saw that with Dallas at New Orleans on on 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.640 Sunday night. Is he carried what eighteen times for about 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:38.960 thirty nine yards. They couldn't get the ground game going, 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:41.720 So Elliott Prescott couldn't get it going through the air. 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:45.400 Now you look at the Rams, Gurley is only averaging 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:48.600 twelve carries per game this year. That's five below his 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:52.240 career low, which was just over seventeen. Last year, they 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:54.199 ranked third in rushing. They were putting up about a 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.200 hundred and forty yards per game. This year they're not 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.400 even at a hundred yards per game. There twenty second 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.720 and rushing, and as a result, it's having a dramatic 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.240 effect on Jared Golf. If you can't run the ball 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:05.480 with the Rams, Golf's out on an island trying to 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.720 figure it out for himself and he's exposed. I'm not 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:10.440 saying he's terrible by no stretch of the imagination, but 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:13.360 that really hinders his play. So now it's a short week. 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:15.840 You don't have the running game, You certainly don't have 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:17.839 the defense you used to trot out there, and you're 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:20.560 gonna go up to Seattle to play the Seahawks, who 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:23.400 have played some pretty good football this season with that crowd, 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:26.360 noise and not hostility. Let's also throw in the fact 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:30.080 that Seattle's better yards per play this season and they're 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.600 better in turnover differential. I'm not saying I love the 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:34.320 game or anything like that, But I am playing it. 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:37.440 I'm playing Seattle tonight, playing Seattle. By the way, me 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:39.800 and uh Michael Lombardi or Sin Pattico on the whole 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.280 Jared Golf thing. I really would not have thrown all 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:44.520 that money at him, a hundred thirty four million, hundred 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.240 ten of which was guaranteed. I thought he could be 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:51.240 this great case study of the first good team that 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.640 used a quarterback on a rookie contract and then recycled. Uh, 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:56.760 it's a little too progressive for the NFL. They threw 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:58.000 the money at him. But I think we're at this 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:00.559 interesting point in the NFL where teams like the Redskins 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.640 with Kirk Cousins now the Vikings with Kirk Cousins, and 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:06.720 the Rams with Golf have to make these really huge 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:11.520 decisions about quarterbacks that aren't exactly guarantees for the Hall 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:14.680 of Fame. UM to your point about Gurley, last week, 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:18.640 five carries sixteen yards. It ain't the same Todd Gurley. 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:20.360 It ain't the same Los Angeles Rams. We'll see what 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.360 happens tonight. By the way, the Rams also got to 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:25.439 clean up their penalties last week, thirteen for one oh 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:28.800 six in a penalty filled league. Mike Palm any thoughts 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.920 on tonight's game, Yeah, Eileen, Seattle, I haven't made a 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:35.920 play yet. I I just can't get over Jameis Winston 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:39.480 picking that Rams defense apart and uh, just how bad 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:43.599 this Rams team might actually be. Um I would I 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:46.440 would have made this game closer to a three in 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:49.760 terms of the Seahawks, uh being the real number in 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:51.640 this game. So I think there's some value with it 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:54.280 under three. Still at one right now, So it's probably 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.600 a Seahawks played for me. I like the way they 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.080 played last week against Arizona, going on the road and 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:02.079 taking control of the game early and then shutting that 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:08.240 Kyler Kyler Murray down. So Lane Seahawks Tonight Lean Seahawks totty. Uh. 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:11.720 Here's the thing. I liked everything Joe said. I am 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:14.360 off this game. Maybe I'll do something in game. The 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.400 only thing I want to add, and the reason I 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:20.240 don't want to bet Seattle is here's who they've beaten. Cincinnati. 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.800 We know that's not a football team, Pittsburgh on the 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:28.720 road with Mason Rudolph and it was closed only because 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.200 of that fumble, But I mean, who did they beat 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:36.360 that Mason Rudolph please New Orleans. They didn't look good 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:39.800 in that game with Teddy Bridgewater coming into their house 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:43.120 and beating them. And then they beat Arizona again, a 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:45.600 team that's not exactly a football team. So you've got 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:49.079 three wins against teams that aren't even football teams. And so, 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:51.839 you know, although I agree with everything Joe said, I'm 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.960 gonna sit this one out. Makes sense. Um, I will 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.439 probably be as much into a baseball game as I 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.760 will be into this game. So that's gonna be my struggle. 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:01.920 I'm on the Cardinals this afternoon. I believe Mike Palm, 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:04.280 you're also on the Cardinals this afternoon. First five, first 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.080 five for anything on tonight's game the Dodgers and the Nationals. 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.000 While this game is going on, you know, I lean 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.360 Corbin here, but I have the Nationals to win the 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.840 National League at twelve to one, so I'm invested already. 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.320 I might not get into this series until maybe Game 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.360 three when it switches back to the Nation's Capital. Yeah, 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:21.960 I'm Nationals for the series at plus one nine six. 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:25.120 I may not get involved in this particular game that's 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:29.480 upright against the Rams and the Seahawks. Okay, best bets, right, Todd, 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:31.480 that's what we do now, best bets. Yeah, I like 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:35.600 Corbin because you know, the Dodgers aren't as bad against 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:37.320 lefties as we make them out to be. This year 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:39.800 though three two weighted on basic like not the worst 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:45.600 thing in the world. Okay, well we'll see all right, Joe. 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:47.440 Any thoughts on baseball today, by the way, before we 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:50.720 go on, no, but I'll happily tail that St. Louis 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:52.200 pick that you guys like so much. You know how 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.000 I come to you every year for some baseball stuff. 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.000 You like it, I'm with you on it. Oh you 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.640 missed two good days man Nationals and raised back to 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:00.960 back then tell me that now? How how it feels 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.800 like I'm getting it on the munch? By the way, 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:08.160 how how bitter are Oakland Athletics fans at that loss yesterday? 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:10.040 It's the same story. You know, we tried to do 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.240 a post mortem on air this morning and discuss you 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.320 know what's next, how would you grade the year? And 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:16.280 everyone wants to divide it up. Well, the year was 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:18.240 in A but you know the playoffs were in F 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:21.120 and you know, blah blah blah. It's the same old story, man, 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.680 like you gotta get over the hump last night. I 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:26.560 could see them loose. If you lose six five fine, 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:29.240 if you lose one nothing, fine, But to go out 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.680 there and not pitch well and then not hit, It's like, 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.480 what's the deal man? You keep winning nineties seven games 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:36.200 and you can't get over the hump. A lot of 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.800 people not happy with Bob Melvin. Maybe he's not a 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:40.960 big game manager. I don't agree with that, but that 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.240 was just if you're looking for the thoughts on what 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.440 happened last night, I mean, they took their own crowd 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.080 out of it immediately, like immediately, they sucked the life 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.160 out of that building, which is exactly why they can 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:52.480 get no traction up here. Like they want ratings and 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:55.120 they want support, but they just can't figure out how 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.120 to deliver what the people want. Can I ask you 0:15:57.160 --> 0:16:01.000 a question, what was what was the relux reluctance to 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:04.880 start Sires last night? That's a great question. Um, So 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.720 they passed on him last year. I think with Mania, 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:09.640 he came back and you guys know all the numbers 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:11.880 for how he looked this season as a lefty. There 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:13.880 was a lot of talk about how that would face 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:17.280 against the Tampa matchup, and I think they view Mania 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:20.400 as a frontline guy that's gonna be, you know, the 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.920 future ace of the staff, and that the injury shouldn't 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:25.760 get in the way. I think that they were all 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.080 just very excited about what he brought to the table. 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:30.920 They see him as a big game pitcher. They figured 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:33.160 this was the best opportunity and then talking about the 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:36.280 platoons and how it matches up best with Tampa and 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:37.960 trying to throw them off. I mean, you saw what 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.280 they were doing. They waited until the last possible minute 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.000 to announce the starter because they wanted to give Tampa 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:45.440 as little head time as possible to get up on that. 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:47.800 So that that's kind of where they were coming from. 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:49.640 The fan base loved it too. I mean, that was 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.440 a very popular decision to go with Mania. I'm not 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:54.760 saying you program your team based on what the fans want, 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:57.400 but that was a really popular decision before yesterday. As 0:16:57.440 --> 0:17:00.320 Billy Bean likes to say, my ship doesn't work in 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:03.480 the playoffs, and what that means is over a hundred 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:05.919 and sixty two games right of a sample size like 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:09.359 that moneyball works, but in a small sample size, high 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:13.200 variance situation of a postseason, the biggest example of which 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:15.159 would be a one off wild card game. There's no 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.320 guarantee anything works, and and nine straight times now in 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:20.520 a winner take all postseason game, the A's of lost, 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:22.960 which is an all time record. Here's how the A's 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.800 finished their season. If you take the game yesterday back 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:29.240 into the into the regular season, they finished the year 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:34.719 two for forty nine with runners in scoring position two 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:40.960 for forty nine. God, yeah, exactly right, Like that's not 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:45.280 Bob Melton's fault. Anyway, back to football best betst time, Joe, 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:46.679 we start with you. You're the guest. What do you 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.160 got first? So do I do all three at once? 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:50.600 Or do I just how how do you? How do 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:51.960 you like the structure. It's gonna be a lot of 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:53.960 talking from one individual. Let's do one from you and 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:56.000 then we'll go around the horn. All right, So one 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:58.000 from me. Okay, I'll start with this one. I'm still 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:00.119 a little tentative on this. I'll be completely on and 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:02.160 said I don't love the card this week. So I'm 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:04.040 not gonna come right out and be like, oh my god, 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:06.359 here's a five star play for you. But I I 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:11.359 find myself I'm worried about the Stefon dig situation with Minnesota, 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.760 but I find myself gravitating to the Minnesota Vikings at 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.800 the Giants. I like the Giant story over the last 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:20.440 two weeks, but I'm not buying into that defense one 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:25.000 bit at all. That defense stinks and they've gotten very 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.560 they got very lucky last week that Tina made a 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:31.399 couple of mistakes early and then Gruden inexplicably decides to 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:35.800 put the unprepared, not ready for primetime quarterback Dwayne Haskins 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:38.160 in and hangs him out to dry. As a Redskin fan, 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.080 I don't need to I don't need to recap any 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:42.399 of this your Gil. I'm sure you're suffering it, and 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:44.520 I'm sorry for your loss having to deal with this 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:48.080 team on a regular basis, But don't be fooled. New 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:51.040 York secondary is terrible. After week too generous, Jenkins was 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:53.960 telling the media he can't cover anybody for ten seconds. 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:57.320 He was basically calling out the pass rush and they, 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:59.399 you know, Tampa should have been able to take more 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:01.840 advantage of it. They didn't, and the Redskins couldn't do 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:03.760