Speaker 1: Check it on Man Come Down Now Thursday morning, October
Speaker 1: The Beating the Book podcast of Megapod Week five, Skill Alexander,
Speaker 1: Who's happening? How you doing? Party people on the show today.
Speaker 1: Not only a famous rotating guest, but a guest that
Speaker 1: we've had on for nine years. He's never too big
Speaker 1: to come on the podcast. We love him for it.
Speaker 1: First of all, the staples of the show. On my
Speaker 1: right from Circus Sports Ladies and Gentlemen, he's the conciliary
Speaker 1: to Derek Stevens over there. He's also the vice president
Speaker 1: of Operations. By a more formal title, he's Mike Palm.
Speaker 1: Good morning, Michael, Good morning Gil Very excited to have
Speaker 1: Joe joint us this week. Joe people now or they're
Speaker 1: like who I think I know who this is? And
Speaker 1: on my left from Showtime's docuseries Action and also a
Speaker 1: guy who comes on the Numbers game on Visa every
Speaker 1: Wednesday during football season, Todd wishnev Hello Todd Todd twelve
Speaker 1: and eight and Circus. That means you get to brag
Speaker 1: and boast you're feeling good. Well, I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: about to put my new system in place where I
Speaker 1: have Mike palm past post me for the last and
Speaker 1: I think I'll be the only one who passed posts
Speaker 1: and still finds a way to lose. You know, that's
Speaker 1: that's funny. But on the other hand, like Mike, is
Speaker 1: uncomfortable because you can't really say that out loud because
Speaker 1: then it gives the appearance of impropriety, So you can't
Speaker 1: really do that. I don't think well, being that they
Speaker 1: post all the pics ahead of time, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's really post It's probably true. That's probably true. Um,
Speaker 1: before we get a Circuits Sports million update, because we
Speaker 1: have a quarterly winner, ladies and gentlemen, somebody who raked
Speaker 1: in over a hundred dollars. The rotating guest Mike tipped
Speaker 1: us off here. He is the host of Joe Lowan
Speaker 1: Dibbs The Game in San Francisco. They do the morning
Speaker 1: show over there. Very successful morning show, but for our purposes.
Speaker 1: Perhaps more known for his appearances on Daily Wager ESPN
Speaker 1: two is Daily Wager, which airs money through Friday, hosted
Speaker 1: by Doug Kazarian six pm Easter three pm Pacific. Ladies, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: it's Joe forton ball. What's happening to Joseph gil it's
Speaker 1: great to be back. Thank you so much for the
Speaker 1: opportunity to appear on this podcast. I can't believe it's
Speaker 1: been nine years. But more importantly, as I become more
Speaker 1: and more famous and successful and I continue to leave
Speaker 1: the little people behind me, it becomes very difficult to
Speaker 1: book me as a guest. And this is a podcast
Speaker 1: that I very easily could have looked past. But when
Speaker 1: you told me you got rid of the other two
Speaker 1: bombs who used to appear on this thing, I said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm absolutely in pick any day or time.
Speaker 1: Uh and and let's do it. Decide it's good to
Speaker 1: be back with you. We did. That was not expected.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Joe. I appreciate that you do not step
Speaker 1: on the little people that we are here. Um. By
Speaker 1: the way, just on a serious note, are you loving
Speaker 1: a daily wager? Does it make you less prepared for
Speaker 1: your morning show? Like? How do you juggle all of that?
Speaker 1: I love the fact that Okay, so there's there's two
Speaker 1: things I love about it. One is this like unintended
Speaker 1: consequence that I think the show didn't set out for.
Speaker 1: But it's something that we've been hearing a lot of
Speaker 1: from from the viewers and a lot of people who
Speaker 1: they're they're learning about sports betting. Sure, but some people
Speaker 1: really enjoy the show and they're not even that big
Speaker 1: in the sports betting. They just like the fact that
Speaker 1: it's a show that talks about games, right like in
Speaker 1: this in this world we live in with the media now,
Speaker 1: it's it's the hot take, it's the embased, embraced debate.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of controversial conversations and wild statements, and
Speaker 1: that's what gets people to tune in. We don't really
Speaker 1: do any of that. That's not what the show is.
Speaker 1: That's not what you guys are doing in Vegas. You've
Speaker 1: got games, you're breaking it down, you're trying to find
Speaker 1: the edge. And we've noticed that a lot of the
Speaker 1: feedback has been from people who just enjoy hearing about
Speaker 1: the game. So so that has been a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: The other part of doing it is that you really
Speaker 1: have to be on your toes. A guy like Preston Johnson,
Speaker 1: I think is is one of the absolute best in
Speaker 1: the business. So if you're gonna appear alongside these guys
Speaker 1: on a regular basis, gotta do your research, You gotta
Speaker 1: do your homework. You can't mail it in, you know,
Speaker 1: some guys can just show up on the radio or
Speaker 1: whatever and and and get through by saying whatever, that's
Speaker 1: that's not how it works. So it's really pushing me
Speaker 1: to try to to do get better at at sports betting,
Speaker 1: at researching, at finding what works, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's a grind, but in a very good way.
Speaker 1: It's very enjoyable. I just love seeing sports betting emerge
Speaker 1: into what it is. I mean, Gil, you and I
Speaker 1: have been talking about this stuff for years back when
Speaker 1: you know, and I kind of had to live in
Speaker 1: the shadows. And now that it's out in the light
Speaker 1: and you can you can really start to embrace it.
Speaker 1: It's been a lot of fun. Couldn't be happy or
Speaker 1: for your success, Joe, Really, I am so happy every
Speaker 1: time you you just ascend more and more. That's a
Speaker 1: very fascinating point where you just made actually just people
Speaker 1: want to hear about games. It's sort of like the
Speaker 1: old MTV thing. We just want to see videos every
Speaker 1: once in a while, right, and so that there's a
Speaker 1: lesserular you think people don't want to hear the five thousand,
Speaker 1: four hundred and seventy four iteration of this lebron better
Speaker 1: than Michael Jordan's. That is correct, although calling tactic, although
Speaker 1: Colin Coward would tell you right that with his audience,
Speaker 1: he knows that that's exactly what they want to hear.
Speaker 1: So it really does you know, It really depends on
Speaker 1: establishing your brand, I guess, and and then if you
Speaker 1: build it, they will come kind of thing um to
Speaker 1: the last part about that, then, Joe, do you find
Speaker 1: and I want you to be as honest as you
Speaker 1: could be here because nobody in San Francisco's listening right now, Joe,
Speaker 1: but do you find that it enhances your preparation for
Speaker 1: your morning show or in some way you just can't
Speaker 1: do it all as well as you could before? I Um,
Speaker 1: I I had the morning show prep on a pretty
Speaker 1: good schedule, So I think the problem was never going
Speaker 1: to be the morning show prep. It was gonna be
Speaker 1: whether or not I was able to create enough time
Speaker 1: to prep for Daily Wager, because it's two very different approaches.
Speaker 1: The morning show is four hours, and three of our
Speaker 1: segments run for fifty or more minutes, so we're not
Speaker 1: doing fifteen minutes on fifteen off. I mean we're going
Speaker 1: for fifty five minutes straight, you know, and then five
Speaker 1: minutes off and then another fifty five minutes. It it
Speaker 1: is a la the Meadi Show. So you're preparing in
Speaker 1: a very different way. You have longer, more verbose conversational points,
Speaker 1: whereas on Daily Wager it's like, look, you've got thirty
Speaker 1: seconds for this answer. You gotta look good, you've gotta
Speaker 1: sound good, you've got to be accurate, you've got to
Speaker 1: pay well, and you've got to get out on time.
Speaker 1: And you'll have someone in your ear that I'll tell
Speaker 1: you ten five and you want to be out. So
Speaker 1: it wasn't so much about changing the prep or what
Speaker 1: I needed to do for mornings. I'm coming up on
Speaker 1: five years here. I've got a pretty good sense for
Speaker 1: how I need to be ready. It was more about
Speaker 1: Daily Wager, like how I'd be able to create enough
Speaker 1: time to be on top of everything that's happening and
Speaker 1: then be prepared to accurately deliver that information in a
Speaker 1: way that can be consumed. You know, it's one thing
Speaker 1: to be able to to pick a game correctly, very difficult,
Speaker 1: but it's one thing to do that. But then when
Speaker 1: you get on TV, Now, how are you going to
Speaker 1: present it? If you throw two hundred and thirty five
Speaker 1: numbers at somebody, you might lose them in the process.
Speaker 1: So you've got to be able to educate, entertain, in
Speaker 1: form and then also uh, be insightful and accurate. So
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on. But now that I've kind
Speaker 1: of got the system down, it's really just eliminating free time.
Speaker 1: Like this is the time of year where there's absolutely
Speaker 1: absolutely no free time. It's TV, it's radio, and it's
Speaker 1: parenting and husbanding, and that's it. Like there's no going
Speaker 1: to the movies or going to the bar anymore. Parenting
Speaker 1: and husbanding. That's, by the way, why Joe I try
Speaker 1: to throw a two d thirty six numbers at people
Speaker 1: so that they can really get the full flavor of
Speaker 1: a game. Dude, you are You are popular up here too,
Speaker 1: by the way, congratulations on your success. I work with
Speaker 1: I mean, you know Ray Ratto, who's been covering sports
Speaker 1: for a long time. Ray listens to Visa and he
Speaker 1: loves you guys. He always comes in referencing because he's
Speaker 1: on the afternoon show here, so we'll cross over because
Speaker 1: I stay here to do my TV prep and then
Speaker 1: he'll be coming in to do radio prep. He loves Visa.
Speaker 1: He he's all over you guys. Oh sweet, that's good
Speaker 1: to hear. Good to hear San Francisco newspaper staple, who
Speaker 1: has been multimedia there now for some years. All right,
Speaker 1: So given then that people just want to hear about games,
Speaker 1: let's talk about games. Last thing of business before we
Speaker 1: do that. Mike uh circuits Sports million. Quarter of the
Speaker 1: season done. Everybody's zero and zero going into the second
Speaker 1: quarterly prize. But who won the first quarter? We had
Speaker 1: a gentleman out of New Jersey Camden, New Jersey CB Elite.
Speaker 1: The team name went seventeen and three, went five and
Speaker 1: oh and week four need the the Jacksonville cover. And
Speaker 1: then it was him against one of their entry heads
Speaker 1: up in the Dallas New Orleans game. He had New Orleans.
Speaker 1: So he takes it down, surprising a singular winner. No
Speaker 1: pushes there and Uh one thousand, seven hundred fifty dollars.
Speaker 1: He flew in last night from New Jersey. He's getting
Speaker 1: paid on Saturday, but he'll be on my guys in
Speaker 1: the desert at three o'clock today. He'll be with us
Speaker 1: from Long Bar with Derrick Stevens and I when we
Speaker 1: we do our weekly hit on Thursday. That's on Visa
Speaker 1: on Sirius XM channel two oh four. Cool. Congratulations to
Speaker 1: him and Todd. You're five games back, so you're good
Speaker 1: for the season. Right now. You're in it, my friend,
Speaker 1: I'm in it. Okay, let's start. Let's start with the
Speaker 1: best bets for Week five in the NFL Joe Thursday
Speaker 1: Night Football. Oh right, that's the format first before we
Speaker 1: go best best any thoughts on Thursday Night Football, Joe anything? Tonight?
Speaker 1: It is the Rams at the Seahawks. Actually a really
Speaker 1: good game, uh in the NFC West to three and
Speaker 1: one team's Seattle favored right now by one and a
Speaker 1: half totals forty. Yeah. I like Seattle here. I do
Speaker 1: not trust Jared Golf at Century Link Field in this
Speaker 1: environment tonight, and we saw him the Super Bowl. How
Speaker 1: you can confuse him? He is very dependent upon his
Speaker 1: communication with Sean McVeigh, the head coach, who makes a
Speaker 1: quick read on the defense and then tries to relay
Speaker 1: in information to mcveigh's or to Golf so he can
Speaker 1: make the proper determinations. It's very college like the way
Speaker 1: they've coached him up, but Belichick and the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: just came up with a simple solution to that. He
Speaker 1: muddled the defense and he didn't have them properly aligned
Speaker 1: until very late in the play clock, so Golf couldn't
Speaker 1: make accurate reads that came in from McVeigh and as
Speaker 1: a result, they were held to what three points in
Speaker 1: that game. Communication is gonna be very difficult tonight. That's
Speaker 1: only the second biggest problem for Jared Golf. The first
Speaker 1: big problem is that this offense, much like the Dallas offense,
Speaker 1: runs through the running back. You don't see that around
Speaker 1: the NFL in this day and age. Kansas City runs
Speaker 1: through Mahomes, Philadelphia runs through Went, and on and on
Speaker 1: down the list. Dallas with Elliott, and the Rams with
Speaker 1: Gurly or formally Girly because he's got problems that with
Speaker 1: that me Those offenses run through the running back, and
Speaker 1: when they can't establish the running game, the quarterback falters.
Speaker 1: You saw that with Dallas at New Orleans on on
Speaker 1: Sunday night. Is he carried what eighteen times for about
Speaker 1: thirty nine yards. They couldn't get the ground game going,
Speaker 1: So Elliott Prescott couldn't get it going through the air.
Speaker 1: Now you look at the Rams, Gurley is only averaging
Speaker 1: twelve carries per game this year. That's five below his
Speaker 1: career low, which was just over seventeen. Last year, they
Speaker 1: ranked third in rushing. They were putting up about a
Speaker 1: hundred and forty yards per game. This year they're not
Speaker 1: even at a hundred yards per game. There twenty second
Speaker 1: and rushing, and as a result, it's having a dramatic
Speaker 1: effect on Jared Golf. If you can't run the ball
Speaker 1: with the Rams, Golf's out on an island trying to
Speaker 1: figure it out for himself and he's exposed. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he's terrible by no stretch of the imagination, but
Speaker 1: that really hinders his play. So now it's a short week.
Speaker 1: You don't have the running game, You certainly don't have
Speaker 1: the defense you used to trot out there, and you're
Speaker 1: gonna go up to Seattle to play the Seahawks, who
Speaker 1: have played some pretty good football this season with that crowd,
Speaker 1: noise and not hostility. Let's also throw in the fact
Speaker 1: that Seattle's better yards per play this season and they're
Speaker 1: better in turnover differential. I'm not saying I love the
Speaker 1: game or anything like that, But I am playing it.
Speaker 1: I'm playing Seattle tonight, playing Seattle. By the way, me
Speaker 1: and uh Michael Lombardi or Sin Pattico on the whole
Speaker 1: Jared Golf thing. I really would not have thrown all
Speaker 1: that money at him, a hundred thirty four million, hundred
Speaker 1: ten of which was guaranteed. I thought he could be
Speaker 1: this great case study of the first good team that
Speaker 1: used a quarterback on a rookie contract and then recycled. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's a little too progressive for the NFL. They threw
Speaker 1: the money at him. But I think we're at this
Speaker 1: interesting point in the NFL where teams like the Redskins
Speaker 1: with Kirk Cousins now the Vikings with Kirk Cousins, and
Speaker 1: the Rams with Golf have to make these really huge
Speaker 1: decisions about quarterbacks that aren't exactly guarantees for the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. UM to your point about Gurley, last week,
Speaker 1: five carries sixteen yards. It ain't the same Todd Gurley.
Speaker 1: It ain't the same Los Angeles Rams. We'll see what
Speaker 1: happens tonight. By the way, the Rams also got to
Speaker 1: clean up their penalties last week, thirteen for one oh
Speaker 1: six in a penalty filled league. Mike Palm any thoughts
Speaker 1: on tonight's game, Yeah, Eileen, Seattle, I haven't made a
Speaker 1: play yet. I I just can't get over Jameis Winston
Speaker 1: picking that Rams defense apart and uh, just how bad
Speaker 1: this Rams team might actually be. Um I would I
Speaker 1: would have made this game closer to a three in
Speaker 1: terms of the Seahawks, uh being the real number in
Speaker 1: this game. So I think there's some value with it
Speaker 1: under three. Still at one right now, So it's probably
Speaker 1: a Seahawks played for me. I like the way they
Speaker 1: played last week against Arizona, going on the road and
Speaker 1: taking control of the game early and then shutting that
Speaker 1: Kyler Kyler Murray down. So Lane Seahawks Tonight Lean Seahawks totty. Uh.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I liked everything Joe said. I am
Speaker 1: off this game. Maybe I'll do something in game. The
Speaker 1: only thing I want to add, and the reason I
Speaker 1: don't want to bet Seattle is here's who they've beaten. Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: We know that's not a football team, Pittsburgh on the
Speaker 1: road with Mason Rudolph and it was closed only because
Speaker 1: of that fumble, But I mean, who did they beat
Speaker 1: that Mason Rudolph please New Orleans. They didn't look good
Speaker 1: in that game with Teddy Bridgewater coming into their house
Speaker 1: and beating them. And then they beat Arizona again, a
Speaker 1: team that's not exactly a football team. So you've got
Speaker 1: three wins against teams that aren't even football teams. And so,
Speaker 1: you know, although I agree with everything Joe said, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna sit this one out. Makes sense. Um, I will
Speaker 1: probably be as much into a baseball game as I
Speaker 1: will be into this game. So that's gonna be my struggle.
Speaker 1: I'm on the Cardinals this afternoon. I believe Mike Palm,
Speaker 1: you're also on the Cardinals this afternoon. First five, first
Speaker 1: five for anything on tonight's game the Dodgers and the Nationals.
Speaker 1: While this game is going on, you know, I lean
Speaker 1: Corbin here, but I have the Nationals to win the
Speaker 1: National League at twelve to one, so I'm invested already.
Speaker 1: I might not get into this series until maybe Game
Speaker 1: three when it switches back to the Nation's Capital. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm Nationals for the series at plus one nine six.
Speaker 1: I may not get involved in this particular game that's
Speaker 1: upright against the Rams and the Seahawks. Okay, best bets, right, Todd,
Speaker 1: that's what we do now, best bets. Yeah, I like
Speaker 1: Corbin because you know, the Dodgers aren't as bad against
Speaker 1: lefties as we make them out to be. This year
Speaker 1: though three two weighted on basic like not the worst
Speaker 1: thing in the world. Okay, well we'll see all right, Joe.
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on baseball today, by the way, before we
Speaker 1: go on, no, but I'll happily tail that St. Louis
Speaker 1: pick that you guys like so much. You know how
Speaker 1: I come to you every year for some baseball stuff.
Speaker 1: You like it, I'm with you on it. Oh you
Speaker 1: missed two good days man Nationals and raised back to
Speaker 1: back then tell me that now? How how it feels
Speaker 1: like I'm getting it on the munch? By the way,
Speaker 1: how how bitter are Oakland Athletics fans at that loss yesterday?
Speaker 1: It's the same story. You know, we tried to do
Speaker 1: a post mortem on air this morning and discuss you
Speaker 1: know what's next, how would you grade the year? And
Speaker 1: everyone wants to divide it up. Well, the year was
Speaker 1: in A but you know the playoffs were in F
Speaker 1: and you know, blah blah blah. It's the same old story, man,
Speaker 1: like you gotta get over the hump last night. I
Speaker 1: could see them loose. If you lose six five fine,
Speaker 1: if you lose one nothing, fine, But to go out
Speaker 1: there and not pitch well and then not hit, It's like,
Speaker 1: what's the deal man? You keep winning nineties seven games
Speaker 1: and you can't get over the hump. A lot of
Speaker 1: people not happy with Bob Melvin. Maybe he's not a
Speaker 1: big game manager. I don't agree with that, but that
Speaker 1: was just if you're looking for the thoughts on what
Speaker 1: happened last night, I mean, they took their own crowd
Speaker 1: out of it immediately, like immediately, they sucked the life
Speaker 1: out of that building, which is exactly why they can
Speaker 1: get no traction up here. Like they want ratings and
Speaker 1: they want support, but they just can't figure out how
Speaker 1: to deliver what the people want. Can I ask you
Speaker 1: a question, what was what was the relux reluctance to
Speaker 1: start Sires last night? That's a great question. Um, So
Speaker 1: they passed on him last year. I think with Mania,
Speaker 1: he came back and you guys know all the numbers
Speaker 1: for how he looked this season as a lefty. There
Speaker 1: was a lot of talk about how that would face
Speaker 1: against the Tampa matchup, and I think they view Mania
Speaker 1: as a frontline guy that's gonna be, you know, the
Speaker 1: future ace of the staff, and that the injury shouldn't
Speaker 1: get in the way. I think that they were all
Speaker 1: just very excited about what he brought to the table.
Speaker 1: They see him as a big game pitcher. They figured
Speaker 1: this was the best opportunity and then talking about the
Speaker 1: platoons and how it matches up best with Tampa and
Speaker 1: trying to throw them off. I mean, you saw what
Speaker 1: they were doing. They waited until the last possible minute
Speaker 1: to announce the starter because they wanted to give Tampa
Speaker 1: as little head time as possible to get up on that.
Speaker 1: So that that's kind of where they were coming from.
Speaker 1: The fan base loved it too. I mean, that was
Speaker 1: a very popular decision to go with Mania. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying you program your team based on what the fans want,
Speaker 1: but that was a really popular decision before yesterday. As
Speaker 1: Billy Bean likes to say, my ship doesn't work in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and what that means is over a hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty two games right of a sample size like
Speaker 1: that moneyball works, but in a small sample size, high
Speaker 1: variance situation of a postseason, the biggest example of which
Speaker 1: would be a one off wild card game. There's no
Speaker 1: guarantee anything works, and and nine straight times now in
Speaker 1: a winner take all postseason game, the A's of lost,
Speaker 1: which is an all time record. Here's how the A's
Speaker 1: finished their season. If you take the game yesterday back
Speaker 1: into the into the regular season, they finished the year
Speaker 1: two for forty nine with runners in scoring position two
Speaker 1: for forty nine. God, yeah, exactly right, Like that's not
Speaker 1: Bob Melton's fault. Anyway, back to football best betst time, Joe,
Speaker 1: we start with you. You're the guest. What do you
Speaker 1: got first? So do I do all three at once?
Speaker 1: Or do I just how how do you? How do
Speaker 1: you like the structure. It's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 1: talking from one individual. Let's do one from you and
Speaker 1: then we'll go around the horn. All right, So one
Speaker 1: from me. Okay, I'll start with this one. I'm still
Speaker 1: a little tentative on this. I'll be completely on and
Speaker 1: said I don't love the card this week. So I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna come right out and be like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: here's a five star play for you. But I I
Speaker 1: find myself I'm worried about the Stefon dig situation with Minnesota,
Speaker 1: but I find myself gravitating to the Minnesota Vikings at
Speaker 1: the Giants. I like the Giant story over the last
Speaker 1: two weeks, but I'm not buying into that defense one
Speaker 1: bit at all. That defense stinks and they've gotten very
Speaker 1: they got very lucky last week that Tina made a
Speaker 1: couple of mistakes early and then Gruden inexplicably decides to
Speaker 1: put the unprepared, not ready for primetime quarterback Dwayne Haskins
Speaker 1: in and hangs him out to dry. As a Redskin fan,
Speaker 1: I don't need to I don't need to recap any
Speaker 1: of this your Gil. I'm sure you're suffering it, and
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for your loss having to deal with this
Speaker 1: team on a regular basis, But don't be fooled. New
Speaker 1: York secondary is terrible. After week too generous, Jenkins was
Speaker 1: telling the media he can't cover anybody for ten seconds.
Speaker 1: He was basically calling out the pass rush and they,
Speaker 1: you know, Tampa should have been able to take more
Speaker 1: advantage of it. They didn't, and the Redskins couldn't do
Speaker 1: anything last week because of how in up they are.
Speaker 1: I do not see Daniel Jones and the Giant offense
Speaker 1: without Barkley having a lot of success against this defense.
Speaker 1: So right out of the gate, I think this Danny
Speaker 1: dime story, which has been a lot of fun, is
Speaker 1: not gonna play. Washington's defense has allowed opposing quarterbacks to
Speaker 1: complete seventy eight percent of their passes this year. Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones and Mitchell Trabinsky combined to complete seventies seven percent
Speaker 1: of their passes in those two games. That is inexplicable.
Speaker 1: So this matchup sets up so much better for Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins than it than than people realize. But the big
Speaker 1: situation and the drama unfolding in Minnesota has got me
Speaker 1: a little bit tentative about laying the points. I know
Speaker 1: Minnesota's defense is going to be able to get the
Speaker 1: job done against the Giants. I just wonder if they
Speaker 1: can put this stuff that they have going on but
Speaker 1: behind them, they can go out and get this win.
Speaker 1: They they they've had problems connecting deep down the field.
Speaker 1: This secondary is Taylor made for you to connect down
Speaker 1: the field. Going into the tam the game, I want
Speaker 1: to say or actually no, sorry. Going into the Washington game,
Speaker 1: the Giant defense had given up eight hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: seven total yards combined to the Bills and the box.
Speaker 1: And I know the Bucks hung some points last week,
Speaker 1: but I don't view the box as a Drew Brees
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers let offense. Whince has been better, don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, but I do not see them as one
Speaker 1: of the elite offenses in the NFL. So right now,
Speaker 1: I do find myself wanting to lay the points with Minnesota.
Speaker 1: It's risky, it's a lot on the road. Diggs was
Speaker 1: back at practice today. He did meet with the media afterwards.
Speaker 1: So if they get it cleaned up by Sunday, I
Speaker 1: think they could hammer the Giants, all right. So let
Speaker 1: me just jump in because that is one of mine
Speaker 1: as well. And I will just jump in and say
Speaker 1: count me in for that game as well. That was
Speaker 1: one of the four games on Guessing lines for those
Speaker 1: who listen to Guessing Lines on this podcast with Chrissie Andrews,
Speaker 1: that was one of the four games you know that
Speaker 1: I came up with there too, uh, And I feel
Speaker 1: the same way about the Digs thing. For those who
Speaker 1: missed it. Stefon Diggs very unhappy, uh not getting the ball.
Speaker 1: He did have seven catches this past week for a
Speaker 1: hundred eight yards in the Vikings loss to the Bears.
Speaker 1: Wasn't last week. The Vike's lost the Bears last week, yes,
Speaker 1: six six. He did catch seven balls. Before that, he
Speaker 1: was getting nothing. Adam feeling is upset. Diggs has asked
Speaker 1: for a trade. The Vikings say, under no circumstances will
Speaker 1: they trade him. You know what that means, Stefan Digs
Speaker 1: will be traded, probably in sometime in the near future.
Speaker 1: But I'm with Minnesota too, for all the reasons stated,
Speaker 1: despite the digs complaints and perhaps a a near mutiny
Speaker 1: situation in Minnesota. Mike, we go to you next. We're
Speaker 1: doing that at minus five. Girl, We're doing it at
Speaker 1: minus five. Current numbers minus five. It was minus four
Speaker 1: and a half on guessing lines on Monday. I had
Speaker 1: guessed that Minnesota would be six point favorites, so I
Speaker 1: will play it at minus five. Mike, all right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with the total for my first best bet.
Speaker 1: And I know Josh Allen's status is not cemented yet,
Speaker 1: but I like this game either way, even more if
Speaker 1: he's not playing in its barkley. I'll go under thirty
Speaker 1: eight and a half in the Buffalo Tennessee game, I
Speaker 1: think the Bills proved the point that we've been talking
Speaker 1: about there one of the two best defenses in the
Speaker 1: NFL last week against Tom Brady, who had one of
Speaker 1: his ten worst career games. Really, without that block punt,
Speaker 1: they don't win that game. I think you have two
Speaker 1: extremely well coached teams here. I think this is gonna
Speaker 1: be a real grinding game where they'll try to get
Speaker 1: the running game going for Tennessee and they're not gonna
Speaker 1: take too many chances. I see this game being played
Speaker 1: in the teens on both sides, whether it's seventeen thirteen,
Speaker 1: fourteen thirteen type of game in the twenties. For a total,
Speaker 1: I'll take the Bills and Titans under thirty eight and
Speaker 1: a half before it drops. If there's any news on
Speaker 1: Alan under thirty eight and a half of we still
Speaker 1: don't know what the what the story is on Josh
Speaker 1: Allen right, correct, he's still he's now in stage four
Speaker 1: of concussion protocol. Um he's practicing, but not Barkley is
Speaker 1: getting the first team reps. So I just beer that
Speaker 1: if you don't take it now and we and he
Speaker 1: does not play this number will come down another couple
Speaker 1: of points. Are you seeing the thirty eight and a
Speaker 1: half everywhere or just in certain spots? I saw it
Speaker 1: in two spots, but I haven't looked across the board.
Speaker 1: So that's the number I saw when I looked at
Speaker 1: stations at CIRCA this morning. And if store a lot
Speaker 1: thirty eight and a half, it is for like palm
Speaker 1: under Buffalo, Tennessee. And we'll find out about Josh Allen Todd.
Speaker 1: I'm going with Minnesota too. I like the Minnesota vikings
Speaker 1: and here's why. Um, First of all, if you watched
Speaker 1: the Giants Buffalo game, there were guys wide open like
Speaker 1: it was a college game in the secondary, you know how,
Speaker 1: Like remember Mason Rudolph on Monday Night, throw that ball
Speaker 1: and a guy was so wide open you were like,
Speaker 1: is this like Notre Dame against Bowling Green or something.
Speaker 1: But that's what it looked like when the Bills played
Speaker 1: the Giants a couple of weeks ago in in the Meadowlands. Um,
Speaker 1: I think Minnesota can score enough against the Giants. And
Speaker 1: I just don't believe in the Danny Dimes hype. I
Speaker 1: know he played great the second half against Tampa Bay,
Speaker 1: but you know, beating the Redskins, what does that mean?
Speaker 1: It doesn't prove anything to me. And I love the
Speaker 1: fact that Minnesota got whooped last week while the Giants
Speaker 1: looked great. So to me, give me Minnesota minus five.
Speaker 1: It's not you know, all I have to do is
Speaker 1: one by a touchdown, So I'll take Minnesota, by the way,
Speaker 1: since you bring up the Redskins, And how dare you?
Speaker 1: By the way, is Jake Gruden really truly considering starting
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins against the Patriots? Like could you think of
Speaker 1: anything worse to do to that kid? He can't possibly
Speaker 1: be thinking, can't you. We We we all know anyone
Speaker 1: who's been around football twenty minutes knows what Belichick does
Speaker 1: two rookie quarterbacks. You are going to ruin that draft pick.
Speaker 1: If you put him out there again and let him
Speaker 1: get destroyed like that, You'll shatter all confidence. You'll take
Speaker 1: everything away from the kid, and he'll just be floating
Speaker 1: around for the rest of his career. Like that's it's
Speaker 1: it's I think Lewis Riddick used the term. I'll use
Speaker 1: it as well. It's it's coaching malpractice. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's what he's gonna stink. Anyways, is that a hey, hey,
Speaker 1: stuff with that? Would you? Is? Uh? Is that? Is
Speaker 1: that a Lewis riddick or is that a Michael Lombardi
Speaker 1: coaching mal practice. I wonder we'll have to get the
Speaker 1: origin of that. Mike may have used that as well.
Speaker 1: I've been listening. I worked with him at n FP.
Speaker 1: I've known it. I love that guy, and that could
Speaker 1: definitely be from him. He's the greatest megapodcast last week.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact. Alright, Joe two, all right,
Speaker 1: it's another situation where I'm inna lay points on the road. UM,
Speaker 1: and I don't I honestly want the backup quarterback to play,
Speaker 1: but I'll take the Bears over the Raiders in London. Um.
Speaker 1: This is the Khalil mac game, and he's a leader
Speaker 1: on that team. And I know this is a narrative.
Speaker 1: A lot of people might say doesn't mean anything when
Speaker 1: it comes to the line, and that's fine, But being
Speaker 1: here in the Bay Area, I saw what happened when
Speaker 1: they traded Khalil mack away, and I still can't really
Speaker 1: figure out the why. It feels like the narrative behind
Speaker 1: the scenes about how Mark wasn't gonna have Mark Davis,
Speaker 1: the owner wasn't gonna have enough money to pay him,
Speaker 1: so they tried. So they moved him because they just
Speaker 1: all the cash is tied up in Vegas and he's
Speaker 1: kind of one of the poor owners in the NFL.
Speaker 1: That's why they let him go. And Druden just had
Speaker 1: to stand up there and take the bullets for him. Um,
Speaker 1: it was just it's a bad move. It's a fan favorite,
Speaker 1: it's a destructive player. You saw what he's been doing
Speaker 1: in Chicago. He he was talking this week and he
Speaker 1: never said stuff like this, but he's been talking about
Speaker 1: how he's had this game circled for the longest time,
Speaker 1: that he cannot wait to play in this game. The
Speaker 1: last thing you want is that guy coming after Derek Carr.
Speaker 1: So here's what happens. He makes those comments, Gruden and
Speaker 1: Car clearly realized that they don't want him wrecking the game.
Speaker 1: Gruden does not want to be embarrassed on an international
Speaker 1: stage by the guy he traded away for a bunch
Speaker 1: of draft picks that as of now aren't really are
Speaker 1: either hurt or not really doing anything. So what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen is they're gonna pay too much attention to Khalil Mack.
Speaker 1: They're gonna double possibly triple as this guy is trying
Speaker 1: to destroy them. And if this were a lousy defense
Speaker 1: with one good player, that'd be one thing. But this
Speaker 1: Bears defense is absolutely ferocious. They can hit you on
Speaker 1: all three levels. They can rush and attack from everywhere.
Speaker 1: And Oakland does not have a good offense. The skill
Speaker 1: positions are questionable. I like Josh Jacobs is a running back,
Speaker 1: but that offensive line. While it looks like they've taken
Speaker 1: a step forward, I still don't buy into it. I
Speaker 1: like to win it. Indie I did. I was. I
Speaker 1: was on the wrong end of that. I liked what
Speaker 1: they did last week, but Indy was banged up and
Speaker 1: could never get it going. They made so many mistakes.
Speaker 1: I see Oakland going international. I think the Bears defense
Speaker 1: smothers smothers with the with the Raiders will do offensively,
Speaker 1: and then if Chase Daniel gets to start, good good
Speaker 1: because he can do as well as Travisky, if not
Speaker 1: better in my opinion, And I don't think you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to ask too much of them. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: good fuel position throughout the course of the day. It
Speaker 1: might not look pretty on offense. But if if I
Speaker 1: need to cover five and a half, it's not like
Speaker 1: it's a true road game and someone else's building. You're
Speaker 1: both dealing with the same circumstances going over to London.
Speaker 1: So all day the points were the Bears. Well, I
Speaker 1: hate to jump in again, but and I'm not suggesting
Speaker 1: that Joe listened to guessing lines. I'm not suggesting that
Speaker 1: at all, but it's as if he did, because for
Speaker 1: those of you who listen to guessing lines, you know
Speaker 1: that's one of my other picks. I am also on
Speaker 1: the Bears in London for many of the reasons stated. Look,
Speaker 1: I think that it is a absolutely circled game for
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack. I do think the travel I think I
Speaker 1: said on guessing lines. If you played this game in
Speaker 1: tim Buck two, you know the line gets even shorter.
Speaker 1: So the travels somewhere in some respect mitigates the the
Speaker 1: talent edge for the Bears. But five and a half
Speaker 1: points is what it is right now. I'll happily play
Speaker 1: the Bears in London against the Raiders, and um, I'm
Speaker 1: with you. I hope it's Chase Daniel. Both Mike Paul
Speaker 1: and I had the Bears ecause we had the Vikings
Speaker 1: last week against the Bears, and we both felt the
Speaker 1: same way. As soon as your bisky went down, we
Speaker 1: knew we knew we were sunk because it's like, oh wait,
Speaker 1: I didn't handicap this against Chase Daniel. I handicapped this
Speaker 1: against your bisky. So I'm on the Bears as well.
Speaker 1: That's pick number two for me, Mike. I have to
Speaker 1: tell you I cannot play the Vikings on the road
Speaker 1: with Kirk Cousins. I'm just done with it. I mean,
Speaker 1: what if Dalvin Cook can't run the ball. That's how
Speaker 1: I feel about Denver, by the way. But stop playing
Speaker 1: a real team. They're not playing a real team. What
Speaker 1: will happen? Cousins won't see the open receivers. He he
Speaker 1: has to look at them on film on Monday to
Speaker 1: see if they're open. I can't beat eight four million
Speaker 1: dollars for a little tape review. All right, My I
Speaker 1: can play is gonna be uh Gardner Minshew and the
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jague wires catching three and a Carolina. Uh. I
Speaker 1: think that this Jacksonville defense um people overreacted and it
Speaker 1: was no good anymore because of what Mahomes did in
Speaker 1: Week one. Mahomes got hit play after play after play
Speaker 1: and continued to deliver the ball. This defense is gonna
Speaker 1: stand up against most NFL offenses, um whether the cornerbacks
Speaker 1: want to be there or not. And I'd like Gardner
Speaker 1: Minshew over Kyle Allen in this spot catching three and
Speaker 1: a half points. I think that Jacksonville is able to
Speaker 1: move the ball against most teams, and that you know,
Speaker 1: I think that the Minshew will not turn the ball
Speaker 1: over where we see Kyle Allen has a propensity and
Speaker 1: despite three fumbles, were able to win in Houston last week.
Speaker 1: I know they have a pass rush Carolina, but I
Speaker 1: think Minshew also is has a little more escapability than
Speaker 1: people think, as we saw in that game when he
Speaker 1: touchdown passed. So I'll take Jacksonville plus plus more than
Speaker 1: a field goal on the road. And it should be
Speaker 1: mentioned that Kyle Allen did fumble the ball three times
Speaker 1: and Caroline has went over the Texans last week. Texans
Speaker 1: could only take advantage of it once, uh couldn't do
Speaker 1: anything with it the first couple of times. So Jacksonville
Speaker 1: plus three and a half at Carolina for Mr Palm
Speaker 1: Todd pick number two. I want to I want to
Speaker 1: be very careful with that one. I don't know about
Speaker 1: that one, Mikey. I think Carolina is very very, very
Speaker 1: very what we missed? You very what very did we lose? Todd? Todd?
Speaker 1: Are you there? Oh? Skype? Say it again, Todd. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a great piece because I was like right on
Speaker 1: the edge of my seat to that. Yeah, very un
Speaker 1: what Todd? What did I say? You said, be very
Speaker 1: very careful of that Jacksonville game. I'm I don't like
Speaker 1: it at all. I like Carolina in that one. But okay,
Speaker 1: but but you said very un you were gonna say,
Speaker 1: do you think Carolina is very un underrated? That was
Speaker 1: very exciting? All right? That your second pick? Then? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Mr Man, is that your second pick? It's not my
Speaker 1: second pick, but you know, you know we have we
Speaker 1: have too much agreement already on this call. And I
Speaker 1: was gonna go with the Bears too, but I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna do that. I'm gonna go with the under in
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Dallas game. Under. If the Bears were
Speaker 1: actually your second pick, you should stick with it. But okay,
Speaker 1: you do your thing. I may I may come back
Speaker 1: with the Bears from my third pick, but right now
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go under Green Bay Dallas forty seven. Um.
Speaker 1: If you remember last year, Dallas Cowboys were a huge
Speaker 1: under team. UH. They have a great defense, or let's
Speaker 1: not say great, but they have a very good defense.
Speaker 1: They end. What I love about them for unders is
Speaker 1: they just run the ball and they take eight billion
Speaker 1: seconds off the play clock every single time. And as
Speaker 1: you saw what happened in No Orans, I had under
Speaker 1: in that game. It was just an under festival. UM.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be under again. I think Green
Speaker 1: Bay's defense is pretty decent. They're not gonna get run
Speaker 1: all over by by Dallas. Forty seven still pretty high.
Speaker 1: And I just love Dallas games going under. And I
Speaker 1: love that the scent has been has been taken away
Speaker 1: from them being an under team because of the first
Speaker 1: two games that they had this year, which were against
Speaker 1: Philly and um the other blowout against uh who was
Speaker 1: the other blowout against that Dallas had early in the year,
Speaker 1: which also shouldn't have really gone over. And you're talking
Speaker 1: about Dallas. They got Washington early, didn't they? Washington Giants?
Speaker 1: Right right? Dallas beat the Giants thirty five seventeen. There's
Speaker 1: a reason why they scored thirty five. It's against the Giants.
Speaker 1: They was thirty one one against Washington. There's a reason
Speaker 1: there was over thirty points scored in that game. It's Washington.
Speaker 1: And then you know, now, I think we're back to
Speaker 1: regular Dallas, which is it's gonna be low scoring. There's
Speaker 1: gonna be great defense, there's gonna be running of the football,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be tick tick tick tick off the clock.
Speaker 1: I went under Green Bay Dallas. First of all. I
Speaker 1: blocked out the Redskins Cowboys game clearly already. And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna step in and button line again for my third pick,
Speaker 1: because mine is sort of correlated with that. And again,
Speaker 1: if you listen to guessing lines, you might be able
Speaker 1: to guess what my third pick is. It's Green Bay
Speaker 1: plus three and a half for many of the reasons
Speaker 1: you stated. I think it's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 1: ticking of the clock. I don't really see the justification
Speaker 1: for the hook. I had Dallas as a three point
Speaker 1: favorite here, but if you're giving me three and a
Speaker 1: half with Aaron Rodgers, a lot of this will come
Speaker 1: down to Davante Adams for me. Do we have a
Speaker 1: status on Davantae Adams. I should really have found that
Speaker 1: out before the show. But Davanta Adams was just unstoppable
Speaker 1: last week until he got the toe injury ended that
Speaker 1: game with ten catches. It says now he's unlikely to go.
Speaker 1: If he's unlikely to go, I feel a lot less
Speaker 1: about this. But if he does play, I love the
Speaker 1: three and a half. I've already betted, so I'm already
Speaker 1: locked at three and a half. I think his uncertain
Speaker 1: status is why this hasn't gone to three yet. I
Speaker 1: do think by game time it will give me the hook.
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Packers plus three and a half is
Speaker 1: my third pill. Let me put let me push back
Speaker 1: on you one sec. And I'm not I'm not taking Dallas.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious because as I studied this game, the
Speaker 1: one thing I was thinking about was like, when Dallas
Speaker 1: gets that running game going and unlocks everything, Philly ran
Speaker 1: to the left side and that Thursday night game against
Speaker 1: the Packers and just gash them in that game? Does
Speaker 1: that How does that factor? And I'm wondering, don't you
Speaker 1: just see Dallas having the same level of success with
Speaker 1: that offensive line or just walked me through that. If
Speaker 1: you don't mind, it's a good point. Green Bay has
Speaker 1: extra rest here. We had a guy who used to
Speaker 1: be on this show. I don't know if you remember
Speaker 1: him show, who you you criticized earlier on the show.
Speaker 1: His name was Marco uh and he used to say,
Speaker 1: no team is as good as they are one week.
Speaker 1: No team is as bad as they are one week.
Speaker 1: And I think we saw the worst of the package
Speaker 1: defense in that case. And the Cowboys. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have to be less predictable on first down runs.
Speaker 1: The Packers really didn't know what was coming with the Eagles.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys better figure out Kellen More, better figure out
Speaker 1: how to be a little less predictable on offense, because
Speaker 1: I think that was an issue for them. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: we can look at the Packers and say they had
Speaker 1: trouble with the Eagles. I would look at the Cowboys
Speaker 1: and say, be more creative. Because Dennis Allen handed Kellen
Speaker 1: More his jock on Sunday night, I thought, and I
Speaker 1: think the Packers will be able to outsmart him as well.
Speaker 1: They only rushed for twenty rushes for forty five yards
Speaker 1: against New Orleans. Yeah, we'll see. I mean that's that's
Speaker 1: also a blueprint to right. We can look at it
Speaker 1: both ways. Joe pick number three. Al Right, so this
Speaker 1: one isn't as good as where I liked it earlier
Speaker 1: in the week. It's a total. It's now sitting at
Speaker 1: forty six and a half. I like the under in
Speaker 1: the Saints Buccaneers game to be played in New Orleans
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Um, let's start with Teddy Bridgewater. Bridgewater is not,
Speaker 1: under any circumstances whatsoever looking to take shots down the field.
Speaker 1: He has no desire to let that ball rip. And
Speaker 1: that's not just from the Dallas game. Go back and
Speaker 1: look at his entire career in Minnesota. He does not
Speaker 1: want to take shots. He wants to dake and dunk.
Speaker 1: He wants to avoid big mistakes. It's death by a
Speaker 1: thousand paper cuts, which is a good thing for the
Speaker 1: under because they're essentially just slightly more elaborate running plays.
Speaker 1: And you're also going to run the ball a little
Speaker 1: bit more with Alvin Kamara, and you want to get
Speaker 1: him involved when you have Teddy Bridge Rutter running your offense.
Speaker 1: Bridgewater currently thirty second in the NFL and yards per
Speaker 1: attempt at six point one. He's behind guys like Luke
Speaker 1: Falk and Josh Allen, and he's a quarterback who tends
Speaker 1: to play to the under. I know it's a trend,
Speaker 1: but I wanted to go back and look at how
Speaker 1: he performed in Minnesota, and he made eighteen regular season
Speaker 1: starts over over two years when he was with the Vikings.
Speaker 1: The under was eighteen nine and one eighteen nine and
Speaker 1: one to the under in his two years as a
Speaker 1: starter in Minnesota. Again, he's not looking for the big play.
Speaker 1: You saw this against Dallas. He'll take what the defense
Speaker 1: gives him. He doesn't want to take many risks. And
Speaker 1: even Withdrew Brees in the game and a half that
Speaker 1: he played, these guys are only averaging one points per
Speaker 1: game this season. The offense doesn't look that great, but
Speaker 1: they have gone up against some better defenses. Now for
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, a lot of people and I think this
Speaker 1: might be factored into the line. You saw him hanging
Speaker 1: fifty plus on the rams on the road last week,
Speaker 1: and you're thinking, all right, these guys are starting to
Speaker 1: get explosive. They have played better offensively, but this is
Speaker 1: their third road game in four weeks. They were at Carolina,
Speaker 1: then they hosted the Giants, then they're at the Rams
Speaker 1: and at the Saints. That's a brutal schedule. Bruce Arians,
Speaker 1: the head coach, was actually complaining about that early in
Speaker 1: the season, how bad the NFL got him on this
Speaker 1: schedule early in the year. Then you look at pace factors.
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay's fifteenth in the NFL and pace this season,
Speaker 1: New Orleans ranks all the way down at seven. So
Speaker 1: I think this is one of those situations where you
Speaker 1: see what Tampa did last week. In terms of hanging points.
Speaker 1: We still view the Saints as this high powered offense
Speaker 1: that puts a lot of points on the board. But
Speaker 1: the cases New Orleans isn't scoring all that much and
Speaker 1: Tampa has come off a really high scoring performance, So
Speaker 1: perhaps there maybe a little bit overvalued in that department.
Speaker 1: You saw this game around forty seven and a half.
Speaker 1: It's come down a little bit. I still like it
Speaker 1: at under forty six and a half. This game is
Speaker 1: gonna be more of a grind, I think due to
Speaker 1: Tampa's exhaustion and due to the way the Saints have
Speaker 1: been playing football this year. I like the thinking. I
Speaker 1: think you're right. Jury still way out on Teddy Bridgewater
Speaker 1: here in his post injury career. We'll learn more this
Speaker 1: week under forty six and a half for Joe Tampa Bay,
Speaker 1: New Orleans. One of ten NFL games on Sunday morning,
Speaker 1: only two in the afternoon. What are they doing? God,
Speaker 1: it's so bad ten early morning games that we all
Speaker 1: have the red zone our way through with all of
Speaker 1: our multiple bets. And then two games, one of which
Speaker 1: is Denver in the Chargers. So it's like, who's gonna
Speaker 1: really be fixated on that unless you have a bet
Speaker 1: Green Bay Dallas being the other in the afternoon, Mike
Speaker 1: final bet. I'm gonna take Todd Wish and have his
Speaker 1: favorite coach and lay four and a half points with
Speaker 1: the fighting Bill O'Brien's against the Falcons. Oh no, you
Speaker 1: mean my hated coach. Yeah. Atlanta is god awful alright,
Speaker 1: god awful Twins taking over the defensive play calling. They
Speaker 1: still can't stop anybody. They gave up twenty four points
Speaker 1: to Marcus Mariota in the first half. What's even more
Speaker 1: concerning for Atlanta as they cannot run the ball. Remember
Speaker 1: in their Super Bowl, You're the only year that uh
Speaker 1: that that that they were really prolific on offense. It's
Speaker 1: because they were able to run the football first. You know,
Speaker 1: I'll I'll steal a phrase from someone you mentioned earlier,
Speaker 1: Gil and Colin Cowherd, who said, you know, Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: is just Andy Dalton in a dome. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: they're behind by three touchdowns, so he can pile up
Speaker 1: these yards. But in the first half, when these games
Speaker 1: are competitive, they're not getting it done. I'll take to
Speaker 1: Shaun Watson against this team. I think Houston breaks out
Speaker 1: on offense this week and I'll lay four and a half. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're among the most penalized teams in the NFL every
Speaker 1: year the Falcons, their defense gets torched. Got torched in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl by the Pats. They've been getting to
Speaker 1: which ever since they have had bad injury. Look, but
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan certainly has regressed terribly. I'm not really sure
Speaker 1: what dan Quinn is good at. Quite frankly, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if Jake Gruden has a run for
Speaker 1: his money and the first coach to be fired here, Todd,
Speaker 1: your final pick, Okay, my final pick. I am gonna
Speaker 1: go even though I do like the Bears, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with the Philadelphia Eagles, and I'm gonna do something
Speaker 1: that you're never supposed to do, and that's laid double
Speaker 1: digits in an NFL game. The only thing is it's
Speaker 1: not really an NFL game because it's the Philadelphia Eagles
Speaker 1: against Luke Falk, so it's really Philadelphia against Washington State.
Speaker 1: I don't see how the Jets can score some points.
Speaker 1: The Jets got zero point zero against the New England Patriots. Now,
Speaker 1: unfortunately I had under ten that day and the Patriots
Speaker 1: decided to fumble one in the end zone and let
Speaker 1: stid Him come in and throw a pick six. But
Speaker 1: that was the only way the Jets even got to fourteen.
Speaker 1: The week before that, we watched them being napped against
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. Now, I know they've had tons of
Speaker 1: time to um milk Donald back to health from kissing disease.
Speaker 1: But Luke Falk, uh, you know, he looks like he
Speaker 1: has uh has mono too, because he can't move the
Speaker 1: ball either. So the Philadelphia Eagles are a good team.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be able to score some points,
Speaker 1: get to twenty one or so. I don't see how
Speaker 1: the Jets get more than seven here. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go I'm gonna do something a little crazy here, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lay thirteen points with the Philadelphia Eagles against
Speaker 1: the Jets. Let's go Bird. You're not suggesting that the
Speaker 1: mono transferred from Sam Donald to Luke Falk, are you.
Speaker 1: It's quite possible that some of these guys in the
Speaker 1: quarterback meeting might have gotten you know, it's very excited
Speaker 1: about one of the film. You know, the plays on
Speaker 1: the film, and might have started kissing each other and
Speaker 1: who knows what happens. Sorry, all right, Uh, Joe, I
Speaker 1: forgot to tell you there's a teaser of the week
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Speaker 1: two questions, so we'll hold off on yours. We'll give
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Speaker 1: thank me. Like there, Todd, let's start with you there,
Speaker 1: what do you like? Teaser wise? Teaser wise, I am
Speaker 1: gonna tease the l A Rams up to seven and
Speaker 1: a half so I can go through ever present three
Speaker 1: and seven. I think the Rams, while I did agree
Speaker 1: with what Joe said, I don't think they're gonna get
Speaker 1: blown out two weeks in a row. I'll take the
Speaker 1: Rams up to seven and a half. And then I
Speaker 1: was really struggling to find another team to put this with.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna do something also a little crazy and
Speaker 1: take the New England Patriots from fifteen down town or
Speaker 1: fifteen and a half down to nine and a half?
Speaker 1: Can I are they at fifteen and a half is
Speaker 1: at the correct number? Okay? So if I can move
Speaker 1: them down through fourteen, thirteen and ten down to nine,
Speaker 1: I will take England minus nine along with the Rams
Speaker 1: up to seven and a half. I don't hate it. Mike, Well,
Speaker 1: you know what my formulaic teaser is. Um, It's yes,
Speaker 1: it's traditionally I teased down the Chiefs. Will keep doing that.
Speaker 1: It's been It's worked every every game so far. So
Speaker 1: teams the Chiefs from eleven down to five against the Colts. Um,
Speaker 1: this Colts defense is pretty bad. I mean, if if
Speaker 1: if Kansas City wants to run the ball, they can
Speaker 1: do that as well as throw. And remember, with luck,
Speaker 1: this is the rematch of a divisional playoff game last
Speaker 1: year that Kansas City really dominated with luck. Now, without luck,
Speaker 1: we'll tease him down to five. And I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: against our team gil that that we have bet to
Speaker 1: win the NFC West. And on Monday Night, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tease um Baker Mayfield and the Browns up to nine
Speaker 1: and a half in San Francisco. I was. I was
Speaker 1: pretty impressed with the bounce back performance of the Browns
Speaker 1: UH and Kitchens play calling lo and behold mixing Nick
Speaker 1: Chubb into the game plan. I mean, they rolled up
Speaker 1: almost six hundred yards of offense against Baltimore, and I
Speaker 1: watched a lot of that game. I thought they looked
Speaker 1: pretty dominant on both sides of the ball. And I
Speaker 1: think this is a close game, UH should be a
Speaker 1: very well played, competitive game in San Francisco. So I'll
Speaker 1: take that number through through the seven to nine and
Speaker 1: a half. Yeah, I'm doing Cleveland as well as a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, and both Mike and I, as he
Speaker 1: alluded to have the Niners pre flop before the season
Speaker 1: started to win the NFC West at near four to
Speaker 1: one odds. But I do have Cleveland going through the
Speaker 1: UH the seven here in Cleveland plus nine and a
Speaker 1: half on Monday night, I'm pairing it with the Bears
Speaker 1: in London. I'm just knocking that down to basically the
Speaker 1: Bears plus a half so that all they have to
Speaker 1: do is win the football game. So Bears, Browns my
Speaker 1: two team six point teaser of the week. Joe, Wait,
Speaker 1: so you have Bears And did you say Brown's just
Speaker 1: like Mike. Yes, sir, Yes, sir, that's what I said.
Speaker 1: First half, I'll go with Kansas City. I'm looking for
Speaker 1: a way to get involved in their games just about
Speaker 1: every week. Not because I think I'm smart or anything
Speaker 1: like that. I just really enjoy watching them. I've been
Speaker 1: playing a lot of Chiefs teams total like they they
Speaker 1: just cruised to thirty points. They cruised to thirty And
Speaker 1: the one thing I've learned I did bet baalt More
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and I got that back door.
Speaker 1: But the one thing I learned, and you'll you'll notice
Speaker 1: this type of stuff when you're gambling against the team,
Speaker 1: like good luck stopping these guys three possessions in a row.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it can't be done. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it hasn't been done. But when you bet against them
Speaker 1: and you watch them take the field, third and eleven
Speaker 1: is where you're supposed to be comfortable, you're not. Like
Speaker 1: you're just never comfortable with This offense has been shredding people.
Speaker 1: The the efficiency, the speed, the manner in which they
Speaker 1: can strike from anywhere on the field the Lions. By
Speaker 1: all accounts, you to won that game. Like if Kansas
Speaker 1: City is an average team or an above average team,
Speaker 1: they lose that game based on the way it played out.
Speaker 1: But they're great team now. Whether or not Andy Reid
Speaker 1: can manage them through the postseason into the super Bowl
Speaker 1: is one thing. But they are a great football team.
Speaker 1: I mean they just they scheme in a way that
Speaker 1: makes other defenses look stupid. And Patricia put together a
Speaker 1: great game plan with corners running with specific wide receivers
Speaker 1: and they still hung thirty on the road in that game, Like,
Speaker 1: they still got there. So this week, because you have
Speaker 1: them as a huge favorite and you a fifty six
Speaker 1: point total, you start looking at the imply team totals.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of points for a colts team that's
Speaker 1: gonna want to try to slow it down. So I
Speaker 1: don't know if I messed with that, but I like
Speaker 1: the idea of teasing them down to five. If Indianapolis
Speaker 1: does not find a way to keep this really close early,
Speaker 1: they're gonna get put in a position they don't want
Speaker 1: to be in and then that's gonna be a shootout.
Speaker 1: And and Jacoby Brissett is not an up tempo quarterback
Speaker 1: who's gonna sling it all over the field with a
Speaker 1: variety of weapons in a chance to win a game
Speaker 1: forty to thirty eight, Like Indie needs to drag it
Speaker 1: down in the mud. They need to force a couple
Speaker 1: of turnovers. They need to get Kansas City off their game,
Speaker 1: and even then, you know, keeping it within five is
Speaker 1: gonna be very difficult. So the Chiefs on one half
Speaker 1: the other half. I'll take the six and a half
Speaker 1: with the Chargers and I'll knock that down to a half.
Speaker 1: The Chargers have not looked very impressive this season, but
Speaker 1: at the same time that the Broncos are are awful.
Speaker 1: They are just awful. Then here's the question, what do
Speaker 1: the Broncos do well? I mean they I don't think
Speaker 1: there's anything we knew when Vic Fangio took over. The
Speaker 1: offense was probably gonna be an issue with Joe Flacco
Speaker 1: digging and dunking. But at the same time, they're not
Speaker 1: playing defense. That's what worries me is that if a
Speaker 1: defensive minded head coach takes over at a great defense
Speaker 1: and that defense struggles, like how can you keep the
Speaker 1: guy on as a head coach that's the big problem
Speaker 1: for me. They're they're not sacking anybody. Bradley Chubb's out
Speaker 1: for the season, so you've lost that weapon. Um, it
Speaker 1: just looks like a real big struggle. So as sloppy
Speaker 1: as the Chargers have been at times, just winning this
Speaker 1: game is not going to require them to play their
Speaker 1: best football. They're gonna have to play smart football. They
Speaker 1: can't turn it over like they've been known to do
Speaker 1: in some of these games that they should win. But
Speaker 1: I'll take the Chargers minus a half and I'll tease
Speaker 1: Kansas City down to minus five. All right, Chief Charge
Speaker 1: is your two team six pointer. And yes, Bradley Chubb
Speaker 1: out for the season. As Vic Fangio continues to walk
Speaker 1: around a museum with a Fannie pack with his hands
Speaker 1: class behind his back in that very slow fashion that
Speaker 1: we see at every museum in the world, that's Vic Fangio.
Speaker 1: Al Right. Here's the thing, this last last final two questions,
Speaker 1: this one question the big favorite, most likely to lose. Outright,
Speaker 1: I gotta fudge this this week because obviously New England
Speaker 1: fifthen point favorites at Washington Philadelphia thirteen and a half
Speaker 1: point favorites hosting the Jets. Those are the two biggest spreads.
Speaker 1: After that, you go all the way down to the Chargers,
Speaker 1: who are six and a half point favorites at home
Speaker 1: against Denver, And just to make it interesting, I'll add
Speaker 1: in we'll go below that number, which we don't usually do,
Speaker 1: but let's throw in Chicago five and a half point
Speaker 1: favorites at London against the Raiders, the Vikings five point
Speaker 1: favorites season five and a half, but con since it's
Speaker 1: five point favorites at the Giants, and the Houston Texans
Speaker 1: five point favorites at home against Atlanta, I throw all
Speaker 1: of those in. Joe, who's the most likely to lose
Speaker 1: outright in Kansas of course? By the way, Kansas City
Speaker 1: of course, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I really like the Colts
Speaker 1: in that game. That should be great night football and Arrowhead.
Speaker 1: It's easy spot to go get a win against that offense. Um,
Speaker 1: most of these games I've already picked, and I've already
Speaker 1: picked the favorite in some way, shape or form. So
Speaker 1: the one I have in is probably uh the choice
Speaker 1: by default, which would be Atlanta Upsett in Houston. But
Speaker 1: it's like, I feel like I want to puke making
Speaker 1: that selection, because you laid out, You guys laid out
Speaker 1: earlier all the issues with Atlanta, and I agree. I agree.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a fool's gold team that that pads
Speaker 1: these stats and makes you look like just look at
Speaker 1: what's happened since Kyle Shanahan left. That's the key. Since
Speaker 1: he left, they don't do a whole lot offensively. The
Speaker 1: numbers have dropped. Um, they haven't dropped off as much
Speaker 1: as you would think, but again it's a lot of
Speaker 1: garbage time numbers. They don't cover spreads. They don't cover
Speaker 1: spreads on the road. I guess the main reason I
Speaker 1: would make this pick is Houston seems a bit off
Speaker 1: to me watching them weekend and week out. That first
Speaker 1: week they look great against New Orleans and then they
Speaker 1: blew it late, and then they grinded that win out
Speaker 1: against Jacksonville, and then I can't remember what the third
Speaker 1: game may have been they I guess maybe they gotta
Speaker 1: win somewhere in the third game. They went to the
Speaker 1: Chargers and figured out how to get a win. That
Speaker 1: was a good win. But then last week against Kyle
Speaker 1: Allen and Carolina, they just couldn't get it going. And
Speaker 1: I like Kyle Allen in North Turner system. North Turner
Speaker 1: wants to get vertical down the field. I think there's
Speaker 1: something interesting to watch there. I'm not saying it's going
Speaker 1: to be a great success, but it just feels like
Speaker 1: there might be something brewing there to an extent. But Yeah,
Speaker 1: with the way Houston's looked, with the way they're failing
Speaker 1: to protect DeShawn Watson yet again, they're just such a
Speaker 1: poorly run franchise. They don't have a GM O'Brien's making
Speaker 1: the decisions. It's not something I love. But if I
Speaker 1: have to answer the question, I guess I'll take Atlantic
Speaker 1: because I've already taken the favorites everywhere else. Yeah, DeShawn
Speaker 1: Watson another six sacks last week. That dude, before the
Speaker 1: game before that, when he only got sacked two times,
Speaker 1: eight straight games where he got sacked at least four times.
Speaker 1: That's happened like half a season where it's four sacks
Speaker 1: every time out. It's just at some point the criticism
Speaker 1: on that has got to ramp up because I do
Speaker 1: think he gets a bit of a free pass on that.
Speaker 1: I get it, that's your game. You can't take that
Speaker 1: many hits weekend and week out Mike, same question. Well,
Speaker 1: this is a tough spot for me here, Gil, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, checkmate. I limited to either the Chargers or
Speaker 1: the Vikings. Arguments for the Chargers are one Anthony Lyndon,
Speaker 1: uh and to home field advantage playing in that soccer stadium.
Speaker 1: But then again, you're playing against the Broncos who have
Speaker 1: just been pathetic on most aspects. The other one, Vikings
Speaker 1: is all your top pick. But I'm still very emotionally
Speaker 1: stung by what they did last week. Uh No, I'm
Speaker 1: very angry. You've got an apathetic quarterback, they're in fighting.
Speaker 1: That offensive line is not good, doesn't travel well, and
Speaker 1: I just think if they cannot run the ball, but
Speaker 1: maybe they will be able to because this Giant's defense
Speaker 1: isn't the Bears defense. If they cannot run the ball,
Speaker 1: you're playing against the franchise with New Life with Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones at the helm. Uh. Boy, this is a tough pick. Um.
Speaker 1: I have to go with the Giants that to beat
Speaker 1: the Vikings. Vikings most vulnerable, Todd, I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: Atlanta too. I hate Atlanta. I can't stand Matt Ryan,
Speaker 1: I can't stand the coach, but I can't stand Bill
Speaker 1: O'Brien too, so maybe it's a can't stand versus can't
Speaker 1: stand and I get lucky at Lanta at least has
Speaker 1: some talent on the field. Uh. You know, Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: of course is gonna make big mistakes in big spots,
Speaker 1: but at least they have some talent on the field.
Speaker 1: And Bill O'Brien has had a propensity to keep the
Speaker 1: other team in the game. He's not the kind of
Speaker 1: guy who blows you out. So you know, there might
Speaker 1: be some kind of a couple of turnovers here or there,
Speaker 1: and maybe Atlanta finds a way to squeak it out.
Speaker 1: Of course I don't like it either, but if I
Speaker 1: have to pick one, I guess I'll take Atlanta. I
Speaker 1: understand your dilemma, Mike, I too have the same dilemma,
Speaker 1: but I am going to pick the Chicago Bears, one
Speaker 1: of my best bets. But you know, there is a
Speaker 1: scenario here where the travel just doesn't agree with the team.
Speaker 1: And as I understand that the Bears are traveling tomorrow
Speaker 1: to London, I did not confirm that, but that was
Speaker 1: the word earlier in the week that the Bears were
Speaker 1: waiting until the weekend to travel basically, So I would
Speaker 1: say the Bears just because body clock could be a
Speaker 1: factor that I didn't factor into this, so to speak,
Speaker 1: So that would be my pick for that. A little
Speaker 1: quirky one a game in London. Final question, we live
Speaker 1: in a bizarro world? Their fifteen games this week? Who's
Speaker 1: on the by this week? By the way, Detroit and
Speaker 1: who else? How about the Dolphins? It is the Biami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Detroit and Miami both on a bi So fifteen games.
Speaker 1: Let's say we lived in a strange, bizarre world where
Speaker 1: you had to pick a side on everything, but you
Speaker 1: got one free pass one game where you did not
Speaker 1: have to bet it. Which is the game you would
Speaker 1: want no part of? Joe Arizona Cincinnati would probably be
Speaker 1: the first one that comes to mind, although Baltimore Pittsburgh's
Speaker 1: close because the Ravens the last two weeks have really
Speaker 1: raised some big questions for me after I liked them
Speaker 1: the first two weeks, and what's the big difference. Well,
Speaker 1: the first two weeks they played nobody. The second two
Speaker 1: weeks the competition got a little bit tougher. So I'm
Speaker 1: still a little iffy on that, especially laying three on
Speaker 1: the road against Pittsburgh, which you know, they found a
Speaker 1: way to look good against Cincinnati this past week, which
Speaker 1: brings me back to Cincinnati. So the Bengals are home here,
Speaker 1: they're laying a ton of points against Arizona. No. I
Speaker 1: mean like Cincinnati was pathetic. They were pathetic in that
Speaker 1: game on Monday Night, and they were also pathetic in
Speaker 1: that game against the Niners. Like Zach Taylor looks. See,
Speaker 1: the thing is when the guy comes from the McVeigh
Speaker 1: coaching tree, that's what everyone focuses on. Hey, hey, look
Speaker 1: at this guy's from Sean mcveige's coaching tree. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: ask a second question. Why is he in Cincinnati, And
Speaker 1: it's because he's cheap. That's what the Bengals do. They
Speaker 1: hired cheap. They always go cheap. They're the team looking
Speaker 1: to exploit market inefficiencies with guys like Pacman, Jones and
Speaker 1: Vantes Perfect. They take the risks on the character concerned
Speaker 1: guys because they fall in the draft. They're high talented,
Speaker 1: but they also bring a ton of concern, which is
Speaker 1: why when you finally get a chance to win a
Speaker 1: playoff game, Pacman and Perfect go nuts cost you a penalty.
Speaker 1: Steelers kicked the field goal and move on. That's what
Speaker 1: the Bengals are. Now you've got Zach Taylor there, he's cheap,
Speaker 1: he's in over his head. Shanahan coach circles around him.
Speaker 1: In Game two, they looked lost in this game against
Speaker 1: the Steelers, who haven't played well this year at all.
Speaker 1: So there's no I can lay the points with Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Then I look at Arizona and I think to myself,
Speaker 1: who hires Van's Joseph to coach defense? He's proven on
Speaker 1: every possible level. He can't coach defense. He couldn't coach
Speaker 1: defense as a defensive coordinator, he couldn't coach defense as
Speaker 1: a head coach. He took a really good defense in
Speaker 1: Denver and randed in the ground immediately. And now Cliff
Speaker 1: Kingsbury comes in the league and gives him a job,
Speaker 1: so that that game all the way around, literally anything
Speaker 1: can occur in that game. I could see a two
Speaker 1: nothing final. I could see I want nothing to do
Speaker 1: with Arizona and Cincinnati. I'm so rooting for the two
Speaker 1: to nothing final. This is, by the way, this is
Speaker 1: a hard question this week because there's a few games
Speaker 1: that could qualify that might be as good a choice
Speaker 1: as any. Mike. Yeah, I have the same answer for
Speaker 1: me is this. It's a standout answer for me. I
Speaker 1: really actually like the Steelers in that game, Joe, I think,
Speaker 1: oh nice. The mental state is just it's a polar
Speaker 1: opposite one eighty here, right, the Ravens get scorched by
Speaker 1: a Browns team and all of a sudden their defenses question.
Speaker 1: And here's the Steelers who are all in three. He
Speaker 1: suddenly only a game back, and I'll get to play
Speaker 1: at home here and be right back in the race.
Speaker 1: So I just think the mental states a lot better
Speaker 1: for the Steelers. And they haven't really even let Rudolph
Speaker 1: throw the ball yet, so I lean them there. I
Speaker 1: don't want anything to do with the Bengals and the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: On Monday night, the Bengals look like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: they were in tank mode with Miami on trying to
Speaker 1: get a draft I mean draft pick. That was just
Speaker 1: god awful that effort. Andy Dalton didn't want to be there.
Speaker 1: Um so in what we we know, the lack of
Speaker 1: talent in Arizona and the coaching issues, so I want
Speaker 1: no part of it. I don't care whose favorite, I
Speaker 1: don't care what the total is stay Away. Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: was piste on Monday Night got sacked eight times in
Speaker 1: that game. Todd, I'm gonna say, I don't want any
Speaker 1: part of Indie Kansas City. And the reason I don't
Speaker 1: want any part of that game is because eleven points
Speaker 1: now Joe regaled us with tales of offensive wizardry, and
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with them more, including the amazing play
Speaker 1: last week, which you never see in an NFL game.
Speaker 1: And I actually jumped out of my sea when Um
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey flipped it back to Shady and on. It
Speaker 1: made it so easy. They made that look so easy.
Speaker 1: That was just I wonder why they don't do that
Speaker 1: stuff more, And I, of course I know the reason
Speaker 1: is if they actually do that and fumble the ball,
Speaker 1: the head coach then cuts the guy's arms off like
Speaker 1: in a Caliban style maneuver because he's like, what are
Speaker 1: you crazy? That's not in the play ball. But I
Speaker 1: love that Kelsey too, Shady. The only thing is the
Speaker 1: Kansas City defense is not good, and I think it's
Speaker 1: being um. I think it's being masked by the fact
Speaker 1: the offense is so fantastic. Um. They could have easily
Speaker 1: lost that game against Detroit, and were it not for
Speaker 1: that fumble at the goal line where the Chiefs picked
Speaker 1: it up and they didn't blow the whistle, it could
Speaker 1: have easily lost that game. Now indeed doesn't have ty Hilton, granted,
Speaker 1: but eleven in an NFL game is just so much
Speaker 1: so the Chiefs better be ahead by more than eighteen
Speaker 1: in the end because the backdoor is coming and it's
Speaker 1: coming fast. So I don't want any part of that
Speaker 1: game for me. There was a lot of choices here.
Speaker 1: Like Monday Night Cleveland, San Francisco. I don't have particular
Speaker 1: conviction about that one, if I'm not teasing it, but
Speaker 1: on the number, I don't. I don't like it at all.
Speaker 1: Buffalo Tennessee is is odd, but that one I have
Speaker 1: a little more conviction on. Tampa Bay New Orleans is
Speaker 1: another one I considered. It's one thing to play Dallas,
Speaker 1: which is run first, but against Tampa Bay's throwing the
Speaker 1: ball around the yard. We see Tampa Bay come into
Speaker 1: that Super Dome and score a lot of points. I
Speaker 1: don't know that I would gravitate towards that game. Uh. Interestingly,
Speaker 1: I do like New England, Washington and the Jets in
Speaker 1: Philadelphia with those big numbers, but ultimately for me, it
Speaker 1: comes down to Arizona Cincinnati, and that's why I pick.
Speaker 1: It's just sclaring on the schedule. It's just like a
Speaker 1: beaming light blinking that says, do not play me because
Speaker 1: you have no clue what's gonna happen here. We suck
Speaker 1: so bad on each side of the ball. Good luck
Speaker 1: to you and betting us, So that would be the
Speaker 1: one that I would gravitate towards. Thank you all appreciate it.
Speaker 1: We've done all we can do. Todd wish to have
Speaker 1: Mike Palm Staples of the show and Joe fort Ball
Speaker 1: from Daily Wage on ESPN two, and of course Joe
Speaker 1: Low and Dibbs there at nine point seven the game
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. Joe always appreciated. Nine years in a row,
Speaker 1: made the street continue. You know, it's a pleasure, Gil,
Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. Generally you do radio hits
Speaker 1: and everything and you just ask questions. But like I
Speaker 1: say this to you, every year, I genuinely get to
Speaker 1: come on here and learn while listening to everybody else.
Speaker 1: So thanks to all you guys, man, it was a
Speaker 1: real pleasure to sit here and have these conversations with
Speaker 1: you today. You do say that every time. It's always
Speaker 1: a great compliment. I appreciate that and we from you.
Speaker 1: Thank you all, Thank you to everybody. Good luck with
Speaker 1: all your bets. Week five in the National Football League,
Speaker 1: good luck with that baseball as well,