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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is the Real m v P.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansus, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with some different heroes. When we got

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Speaker 1: your Mark Cesler, we got your Chris Westling. But to

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Speaker 1: my right, gentlemen, this is a big deal host of

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL and NFL Network. You know her also

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Speaker 1: from the Top one hundred Countdown. She anchors that coverage.

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Speaker 1: Right now, she's hosting Total Access, our flagship program. Oh

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Speaker 1: my goodness, Lindsay Rhodes is in the studio. Hi, Lindsay,

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Speaker 1: get excited. Ye hey, all right, I like that. Thank you, Lindsay.

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Speaker 1: This does call for celebration. I approached, Lindsay. I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: to cut you off. Ahead. This is my first time

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Speaker 1: that my co host Andrew Ciciliano has already been has

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Speaker 1: been here. Our producer Michael Burger has been a guest

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Speaker 1: on the podcast. We're still not sure how that happened.

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Speaker 1: But yes, I'm just saying I'm trying not to be offended,

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Speaker 1: but I'm very, very much so offended. I think you

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Speaker 1: can direct every complaint you have to Greg Rosenthal because

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Speaker 1: he is directly responsible for those decisions. We were also

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Speaker 1: waiting who's not here. We were a show just in

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Speaker 1: formation and infantile stages back then. Now that we've started,

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Speaker 1: we've rounded the curve and we know who we are saying.

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Speaker 1: That's when we start. And let's say we weren't worthy

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Speaker 1: of her Beforeive the old Zeusa rolled over to Lindsay

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Speaker 1: this morning and said, Hey, Linz, I want to be

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Speaker 1: on the show because I said, I think because Lindsay

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Speaker 1: we do enjoy your presence, but we imagine that you

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Speaker 1: have to deal with us just nattering on all the time.

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Speaker 1: For years now, it's been I imagine that we're annoying

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Speaker 1: to on some level. Right, I feel like it's the

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Speaker 1: other way around, because every time I have a random

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Speaker 1: question that Google could answer, I just sort of yell

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Speaker 1: it out, knowing that one of you guys has already

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Speaker 1: written about it earlier in the day. We're helpful and

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Speaker 1: the way we must be an I have we never

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Speaker 1: been annoying on any level. Some of the conversing sometimes

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Speaker 1: talking about music and pop culture no, but I enjoyed

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Speaker 1: those conversations. Okay, that's good. And then you have Andrew Siciliano,

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Speaker 1: who we love, who is essentially like having a play

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Speaker 1: of the entire day, play by play of the entire day.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, my favorite thing about Andrew a

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Speaker 1: little known fact. Uh He's read every article about everything

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Speaker 1: every day and not just sports. He will make you

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Speaker 1: feel so inadequate because every day did you read this

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Speaker 1: I'm like, no, what, that's how that's how focused. That's

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Speaker 1: how you end up sitting in a room and where

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Speaker 1: was it Sochy? He wasn't actually in Sochy? Alright, but yes,

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Speaker 1: hosting the Gold Zone coverage. Okay, so Lindsay's here and

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Speaker 1: that's exciting. I think, Lindsay, they're more histories being made there.

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Speaker 1: The first female to sit in on the podcast. Congratulations

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Speaker 1: that more music please? Yeah, I'm patting myself. Were breaking everywhere.

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Speaker 1: We had k Rich female as well producing for us

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Speaker 1: for a while. Now we got here just did not

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Speaker 1: So I'm not the first, that's what you're saying. Well,

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Speaker 1: as a sitting host, he told you that was officially

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Speaker 1: the damn you. We're raining on my parade all day

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Speaker 1: long today, t D. Who asked before we started, Lindsay,

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Speaker 1: All right. So before we get into so we got

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Speaker 1: a nice show today. We have Malcolm Butler, not a

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Speaker 1: I just want to uh something we talked about in

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Speaker 1: So anyway, we the show came up on our crossover

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Speaker 1: that obviously it would be kind of a bizarro bachelor

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Speaker 1: to go on dates. And lindsay, you don't involve helicopters

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Speaker 1: I've heard that's an important component. I have been. You

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Speaker 1: in ning you date all right, well, I don't really

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Speaker 1: He's been knocked for game management stuff for a little

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Speaker 1: while now, so I agree with you it wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: happened had they gone to the Super Bowl, because it's

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Speaker 1: like a why messed with a good thing type of thing.

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Speaker 1: But I think that doesn't mean that it didn't need

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Speaker 1: to happen. It's the timing is interesting. Here is something

433
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Speaker 1: that happened a couple of days ago, but I think

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Speaker 1: it happened after our last podcast. West Welker, reportedly, according

435
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Speaker 1: to Mike Garofalo of Fox Sports One, is contemplating retirement. Um.

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Speaker 1: This is the same West Welker who signed with the

437
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Speaker 1: Broncos two years ago and really has not been the

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Speaker 1: same guy that he was with New England. Uh. West,

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Speaker 1: he seemed especially slow and unable to get any yak

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Speaker 1: this year. I don't think he made a play all year,

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Speaker 1: three concussions and two seasons in Denver. Uh. If he

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Speaker 1: steps away, it seems like that would not be the

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Speaker 1: worst idea. I think, Well, I don't. I don't like

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Speaker 1: the idea of telling athletes win to retire you should

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Speaker 1: go for I'm gonna call West, but I do feel

446
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Speaker 1: like he's reached a point where he's no longer an

447
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Speaker 1: asset to a team, so it's probably a good time

448
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Speaker 1: to move on. More importantly, I think I'm concerned for

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Speaker 1: his health. I think when you have three documented concussions

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Speaker 1: in two seasons that that's very reconcerning. And you don't

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Speaker 1: know what the long term uh and effects will possibly

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Speaker 1: be in what one more concussion could possibly do to him.

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Speaker 1: And if I'm his family a very very concerned about

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Speaker 1: his health. Yeah, like and and we don't even know,

455
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Speaker 1: since the NFL has taken a harder stance on concussions

456
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Speaker 1: and things of that nature, we don't know what was

457
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Speaker 1: He's like a five what five nine, five ten receiver.

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Speaker 1: He's taking a beating for over a decade now playing

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Speaker 1: football at a high level. I mean, this guy has

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Speaker 1: been through a lot. He's taking a lot of hits.

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Speaker 1: Why are you what's the smart mark? What's going to

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Speaker 1: I'm not concussion one? Oh yeah, that's right. You worked

463
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Speaker 1: through it. Yeah. And Greg, you know Greg Rosenthal or

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Speaker 1: boss who is off at the moment maternity. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: suggested that I come in and work through this concussion

466
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Speaker 1: and wrote nine or ten posts that probably were you know,

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Speaker 1: just absolute travesty. If we need to find those posts,

468
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Speaker 1: by the way, we need to find those posts because

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Speaker 1: they have been that they're now in lore and around

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Speaker 1: the NFL history, no memory of it. They let you

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Speaker 1: back on the field, by the way, and lindsay, you're

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Speaker 1: you're hosting t A this week. You know full well

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Speaker 1: that the year everyone likes to their milestone years is

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Speaker 1: the five year, the one year anniversary, silver, a hundred

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Speaker 1: year anniversary, and of course the twenty three anniversary. Everybody

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Speaker 1: likes to dig in on this to us. Yeah, still

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Speaker 1: yesterday afternoon, it's a huge anniversary. Brett Farven, the Packers

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Speaker 1: that trade went down twenty three years ago, uh, Wednesday

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Speaker 1: and Chris Westling, you wrote an enlightening piece, uh the

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Speaker 1: Mailman dug in on how this all came to be

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Speaker 1: from the Falcons almost to the Jets and ultimately at

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Speaker 1: the Packers. It was a momentous occasion twenty three years

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Speaker 1: to three years ago. And uh, of course our shadowy

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Speaker 1: league figure John Marvel asked me to write this, and uh,

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Speaker 1: Mark and I wondered about the whole twenty three year thing,

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Speaker 1: but we just did it as we were told, and

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Speaker 1: we were told that Mooch would be discussing it. So

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Speaker 1: it was it was nice to dig up some of

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Speaker 1: the old anecdotes with Jerry Glanville basically saying I had

490
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Speaker 1: to get rid of this guy because he wouldn't sober up,

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Speaker 1: and then far saying I tried to drink the whole

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Speaker 1: city of Atlanta, which, by the way, point being like

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Speaker 1: if if now a team traded for a quarterback that

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Speaker 1: through four passes, two of them were picked off in

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Speaker 1: your rookie season and right, you're essentially you know, heat

496
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Speaker 1: seeking rehab and a team comes out and drops the

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Speaker 1: number one pick for you, Twitter would absolutely melt. It

498
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Speaker 1: would be like training for Johnny Manziel tomorrow, even worse,

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Speaker 1: I think, because Manzel, I mean Manzell didn't had the

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Speaker 1: pedigree coming in where there's some missing around him. Prett

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Speaker 1: Prett five did not have that to the same degree.

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Speaker 1: And West just to make me depressed, what what happened

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Speaker 1: with the Jets who uh almost came into possession of

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Speaker 1: Mr Farve ron Wolf, who was recently inducted into Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame or voted into the Hall of Fame, had

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Speaker 1: been a special assistant to the general manager in the Jets,

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Speaker 1: and he raided Far of number one player on the board.

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Speaker 1: The Jets would have used their first round draft pick

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Speaker 1: for him, but they have forfeited that pick for Rob

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Speaker 1: Moore in the supplemental draft the year before. They tried

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Speaker 1: to trade up in the second round to get him,

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Speaker 1: but the Falcons got him first. Lindsay, you, um, well,

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Speaker 1: Bread five is a good relationship with NFL network. He's

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Speaker 1: been involved with shows through the years. Have you had

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Speaker 1: you have any good Bread five stories in your time?

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Speaker 1: Don't I feel like I'm missing out? Now? He is,

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Speaker 1: he's got the wooly beard in the in the I

518
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Speaker 1: feel like the relationship with the network is really forged

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Speaker 1: through Steve Mariuji right, who came on Total Access last

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Speaker 1: night and and remembered that momentous day that the Packers

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Speaker 1: had traded for him. He had just been hired as

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Speaker 1: their quarterbacks coach, so they kind of came in together

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Speaker 1: and wore some really beautiful short shorts together at that time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was. It was a really good look. And by

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Speaker 1: that I mean not a good look. That's Bread five

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Speaker 1: shot is the one where he got drafted and he's

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Speaker 1: in his childhood bedroom and all like his uncle's and

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Speaker 1: as he's got George's in a mullet, and there's all

529
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Speaker 1: this like nine paraphernalia all around him, and you see

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Speaker 1: on the internet they have like people that have pointed

531
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Speaker 1: out like all the different things that are crazy about.

532
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: Lindsay wisely pointed out that much he had his own

533
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Speaker 1: photo of him in FARV on the field and much

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Speaker 1: cropped out the short shorts so that right they come

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Speaker 1: up to here you never know and it's that was

536
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Speaker 1: a smart move, probably probably from Uch's wife. And finally,

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Speaker 1: the St. Louis Rams have officially elevated Frank Signetti to

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, replacing your boy Mark Sela Brian Schottenheimer. The

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Speaker 1: only reason Lindsay this, yes, uh, we've all been waiting

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Speaker 1: for this move two years over the The only reason

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Speaker 1: to bring this up is because we and maybe you agree,

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Speaker 1: loved the name Frank Signetti because it sounds like a

543
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Speaker 1: hard scrabble detective. Detective Frank Signetti on the cave pretty good, right,

544
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Speaker 1: sounds like an Italian Pastah, we have any other good

545
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Speaker 1: names where they sound like like seventies TV show detectives

546
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Speaker 1: or Pasta's Jim Bob Cooter the Lions quarterbacks. Sounds like

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Speaker 1: he's that's fair, It sound like a guy. It would

548
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Speaker 1: be successful. I feel like he would struggle with halftime.

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Speaker 1: You get a case or two, it would never be solved,

550
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Speaker 1: and he'd quickly be all right, there we go. That's

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Speaker 1: what's happening. I gotta documented. I'm gonna watch what I

552
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Speaker 1: say on total tedious monitoring all things at all times.

553
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Speaker 1: I do like you bringing snap back to the lexicon

554
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Speaker 1: of society. It's good. Yeah. I was trying to think

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Speaker 1: if I could blame that, like if I was reading

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Speaker 1: a tweet. But no, actually that came out of my mouth.

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Speaker 1: What about Shack? We have a great one of scheck,

558
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Speaker 1: so you feel better. Come on, what's up? What's up

559
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: with that? From the one you might remember that happened,

560
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Speaker 1: I was when he was doing a hold on play

561
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Speaker 1: a segment in honor of Dion? Can hear that again?

562
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Speaker 1: I never get sick of it? What's up with that?

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Speaker 1: That's awesome? How he stutters through it? Like where am

564
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Speaker 1: I going with? But I sang in character? All right?

565
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Speaker 1: Moving on, let's talk about the wide receive ever free

566
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Speaker 1: agent market and in general, let's play a game. We

567
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Speaker 1: haven't played it a lot. It's called who do you Trust?

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Speaker 1: Who do you trust? That? West? See, that's another issue

569
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Speaker 1: with you getting a girl. Many issues. Your trust issues

570
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: have to get better. N you answering no one when

571
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: I asked do you trust? It's not good, it's a problem.

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00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: It's a roadblock. Lindsay's like, this is not gonna work

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Speaker 1: out for West at this stage. He needs to He

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Speaker 1: needs like a makeover. There are a few concerns that

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Speaker 1: have popped up just in the last ten minutes or so. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there are even more buried. Hey ladies, like I said,

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Speaker 1: hit us up on Twitter, and so he's al alright,

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Speaker 1: So let's play a little who do you trust? And

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Speaker 1: we'll go through West. You have a pieces and up

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Speaker 1: nours they're heading up. It will be up by the

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Speaker 1: time people hear this true on on wide received the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver free agent market, which is pretty juicy. It's stupid,

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Speaker 1: it's so good. There are so many good wide receiver

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00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: names out there. Uh, so West, why don't we start

585
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: just a general overview and then maybe we'll dig in

586
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Speaker 1: on a little bit about what this market looks at

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00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: a buyer's market, the free agent class is already strong,

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00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: just with the guys who are available. Heading in des Bryant.

589
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: Damarius Thomas will probably get the franchise tag if they

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00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: don't have new deals by March tenth. And then you've

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00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: got Randall Cobb, Jeremy Macklin, Torrey Smith, three guys who

592
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: are in our top twenty five over all free agents.

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Speaker 1: And then Michael crab Team, Michael Crabtree and Cecil Shorts

594
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Speaker 1: will probably be in the top fifties. So there's five

595
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: names right there that will probably be available. And then

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Speaker 1: you've got high profile veterans who will be asked to

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Speaker 1: take pay cuts or basically hit the road. M hmm. Interesting.

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Speaker 1: So let's let's uh break it down and um, who

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Speaker 1: do you trust? Here we go, and we'll we'll put

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Speaker 1: them in their kind of similar categories or they're on

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Speaker 1: the same level, maybe close to it. Mark, I'll start

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Speaker 1: with you. Who do you trust? Percy Harvin or Randall Cobb,

603
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: big financial steak looking to get an import at one

604
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Speaker 1: or a kind of like a one B type receiver.

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00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: Who do you trust? I mean, that's easy, Okay, you go, cop.

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Speaker 1: I mean Cobb has been highly productive. Where Harvin you know, honestly,

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Speaker 1: what has it been two seasons since he's given us

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Speaker 1: any real production? He's injury prone and potentially a massive

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Speaker 1: locker room camp. Can I just throw this out there, though,

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Speaker 1: Would you be saying the exact same thing flipped around

611
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Speaker 1: if Percy Harvin had Aaron Rodgers quarterback the last few years? Maybe?

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Speaker 1: But he also injuries aren't about what quarterback you've had.

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Speaker 1: He's been. He's been that hurt last year. No, all right,

614
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Speaker 1: but it started with the headache thing and then it's

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Speaker 1: it migrated into other issues and and I really do

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Speaker 1: think that also not quarterback related. Harvin has been jettison

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Speaker 1: from multiple locker rooms for being, you know, a guy

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Speaker 1: that disenfranchises the people around him. So I can't say

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Speaker 1: that about Cob. I mean, that's easy. I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: Let's get tougher, Okay, Okay, Lenz here have we reached

621
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Speaker 1: out stage? We're so tight? You call me deep money?

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Speaker 1: Nobody else does, but you can. Yeah, that would be.

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Speaker 1: People are always asking, like Dan, you give all the

624
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Speaker 1: guys on the podcast nicknames. He's He's Sizzler or quiet Storm.

625
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Speaker 1: He's the mail man. I also called the sign Tiss.

626
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Speaker 1: I called Greg the Boss. I don't have name you

627
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Speaker 1: called yourself. You're you're not allowed to give yourself a

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Speaker 1: nick exactly why. I don't think your D Money. You

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Speaker 1: could be D sixpence. We already have a D Money

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Speaker 1: in the newsroom. All right, that's fair. Stay on topic.

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Speaker 1: We're working on it. But you can call me D Money.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna come up with a nickname for you. Okay, cool,

633
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Speaker 1: next time I come on the podcast in like three years,

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Speaker 1: right now, I will have one. All right, Who do

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Speaker 1: you trust, Lindsay Larry Fitzgerald or Brandon Marshall. Two guys

636
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Speaker 1: that are not technically on the market, but it could

637
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Speaker 1: with a couple of twists and up both of them

638
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Speaker 1: being free agents. Ah, that one's tough. That one's much

639
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: tougher than the one that I had to give market softball,

640
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: for reasons that I'll get into later. You I want

641
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: to really lay it out there, I'm gonna I'm gonna

642
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Speaker 1: go Marshall, I think, and I'm not totally sure why.

643
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: Maybe the size advantage, the mismatch, the fact. Yeah, I

644
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: don't know, they're both. They're both so good for totally

645
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: different reasons. It's almost to pick them. Five years ago.

646
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: Um Larah, Fitzgerald was, you know, arguably the best wide

647
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: receiver in the league. Is he ever going to be

648
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: that guy again? Or has it just been quarterback when

649
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: it's held him down. That's like the big question with him.

650
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: He had a five game window last year in the

651
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: middle of the year, before Palmer got injured and before

652
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald had a spring m c L where I thought

653
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: he looked as good as he had since two thousand

654
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: and eleven. He was electric after the catch, and it

655
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: was surprising because we hadn't seen that in a couple

656
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: of years. I don't think he is what he once was,

657
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: but I think with the right quarterback and a coach,

658
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: Bruce Arian spreads it around quite a bit, which is

659
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: not what Fitzgerald had when he was putting up great numbers.

660
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Speaker 1: But if you put him in another offense, I think

661
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: he's still a number one receiver. See here's the thing, though,

662
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: So does Larry Fitzgerald need to go to a specific

663
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: offense in order to show off his skills. Can Brandon

664
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 1: Marshall changed the offense just because he's such a mismatch. Well,

665
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: I don't think that Marshall's anymore of a mismatch named

666
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald is. They're both big guys, and Fitzgerald has been

667
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: one of the best runs red zone guys his entire

668
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: career side, I'd say they're both mismatches. All right, I'll

669
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Speaker 1: throw this one West. You're up a three three name

670
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: group here, all right, who do you trust? Jeremy Macklin,

671
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: Tory Smith, or Mike Wallace. That's a tough one. I

672
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: don't trust any of them. Uh. Mike Wallace and Tori

673
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: Smith are both kind of one trick ponies, deep threats

674
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: who are limited their route running. Jeremy Macklin seems to

675
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: be a product of his offense where he played the

676
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: same position as to Sean Jackson, and they both had

677
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: career years. Because they're playing the X spot in Chip

678
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 1: Kelly's offense, I guess I'll take Tori Smith because there

679
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: might be a whiff of upside there that has been

680
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: a little bit untapped. So for I feel like Jeremy Macklin,

681
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: you're saying he's a system guy. I see the guy

682
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: that gets overpaid, like a Greg Jennings a couple of

683
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: years ago. He'll come up a little little later, a

684
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: little later, and then kind of disappears into obscurity. I

685
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: think he's a nine yard receiver in most offenses, and

686
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if I quite trust him to stay

687
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: healthy yet either. Is that fair to throw Greg Jennings

688
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: into that box though, I mean, I guess there's no

689
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: way to really know. But you you looked at a

690
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Speaker 1: guy who is in his prime with the team that

691
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna say makes him a system guy, and then

692
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: he's kind of passed his prime a little bit. And

693
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: then he goes to another team and we say, oh,

694
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: it was the team that But it might just be

695
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: that he's passed his prime with the Vikings might have

696
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: overpaid him, but they should have known they were getting

697
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: a guy that wasn't twenty five entering the sweet spot.

698
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: Maclean's gonna get paid a lot, whether it's Eagles. So

699
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: I think are he's in a good spot because I

700
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: think the Eagles are gonna feel like they have to

701
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: pay him because they let the Sean Jackson go last year.

702
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: They're gonna have Riley Cooper fell off a cliff last year.

703
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: They need somebody they can rely on in that offense.

704
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: I think he's going to get a lot of money.

705
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 1: I think we can agree we can take Mike Wallace

706
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: out of you. I don't think Mike Wallace and trust

707
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: or two. You know, they're not fitting together. And I don't. Yeah,

708
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: I don't need to hear anything about Mike Wallace, who

709
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: pulled himself out of a game and then had a

710
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: teammate speak for him to the media after get I

711
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: hate when guys do that kind of stuff. I can't

712
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 1: take you seriously anymore. Alright, another group, Dan's a real journalist.

713
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: That doesn't vibe well with Dan. I'm a journalist, you're

714
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: a journal difference. Al Right, here we go. He is

715
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: big on the nicknames, even shortened shortened journalistic. He loves to. Alright,

716
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: so we brought up Greg Jennings, will throw him out here.

717
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: One more wide receiver grouping. Who do you trust Lindsay,

718
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: Greg Jennings, Marcus Colston or Dwayne Bow kind of in

719
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 1: that that hard beat to be minus group? Now, yeah,

720
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: trust to do what? Or Michael crabs there should since

721
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: and Jackson in there, well, he'd be the easy answer. Probably. Well, now,

722
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: I can't even remember who. Who would you if you

723
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: had to pick one guy to at a middling salary

724
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: not too much guaranteed money, Dwayne Bow, Marke's Colston, Greg Jennings,

725
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: Michael Crabtree or Cecil Shorts. I'm eliminating Dwayne Bow I'm

726
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: gonna go backwards. Seems fair. Um, and I forgot the

727
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: list again. Okaybe you should start Marcus Colston. Yeah, sure, Yeah,

728
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: I won't eliminate him, all right, Greg Jennings in the

729
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: next I'm ann eliminate Okay, so you're nice, Lizzie won't

730
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: say stuff like, oh he's finished, but we can say that.

731
00:35:55,680 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: But I see, yes, exactly, Cecil Shorts. I hate telling

732
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: people when to end their careers. Thank you said, you're like,

733
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: focus on good grief. Well we can. Maybe we can

734
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: all just agree these are all guys that are not

735
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: going to really may be difference makers once you get

736
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: to this level of the market. Crab tree crab, crab

737
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: tree crab out of that group. Put him in an

738
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: offense that throws the ball. Well exactly, maybe maybe you

739
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: have some untapped potential there, all right, I like that. Mark.

740
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: Let's talk some gms. Who do you trust? Reggie Mackenzie

741
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: or Ray Farmer. I like Ray Farmer. He's a guy

742
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: that he's got his hands in a lot of different stews.

743
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: He likes to he likes to get involved on you know,

744
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 1: he puts their hands in stews. I don't know that's

745
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: that doesn't make That's how you get your hand burned.

746
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 1: Mark with a burn on his hand. Right. Well, listen,

747
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people can take uh Ray

748
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 1: Farmer and say, oh, your first round was a disaster,

749
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: But if you look at what he did last year

750
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: beyond that with guys like Joel Batonio, Chris Kirksey, he

751
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: found ton of undrafted talent as well. In uh, you

752
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: know the running back situation. I thought that he did

753
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: a nice job adding talent over the field. I just

754
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: gotta cut you off a second, Johnny Monzel and Justin

755
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: Gilbert at the first I said, that's the big disaster

756
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: right there, potentially, and we don't know that that's not

757
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: a finished story. But yes, but then when we when

758
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: we did a thing on the Raiders earlier, and we

759
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: talked about all the potential free agent cuts that they

760
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: might need to save money. And these are all aging

761
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: people there, guys that mackenzie signed last March. So that

762
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: to me, is he already in terms of his draft.

763
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 1: He goes and gets Khleil mac that's a home run.

764
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: That's not hard to do as a GM. But his

765
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: own free agent class was was a was a gigantic

766
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: tire fire. So I'm not excited about Mackenzie. I think

767
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: that's fair and we're gonna hear from Raiders fans more

768
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: than Farmer Over Mackenzie is saying, Okay, absolutely, we won't

769
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: hear from Raiders fans. We've already blocked them all. On Twitter,

770
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: they are yeah, there's something going nice. Who are the

771
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: lindsay you? I'm sure you have to deal with a

772
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: lot of vile things on Twitter. Who is the fan

773
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: base you have to deal with the most that at say,

774
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: the fans that respond the most to anything that they

775
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: perceive as a slight is probably I'm going to go

776
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: with the twelves. Yea. Yes, they are a sensitive lot.

777
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: They jump on a lot. They're like new money, like

778
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: they don't they haven't been there for a long time,

779
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: so they are social media mafia. They feel a lot

780
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 1: like things are slights that are not. You cannot mention

781
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck's name without also mentioning Russell Wilson. Yeah. I

782
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: get a lot of tweets about how I hate the Seahawks,

783
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: and I do not hate the Seahawks. I wonder that

784
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: comes from well, you told me privately that you did,

785
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: but but other than that that wasn't a that was

786
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: in a safe space safe sharing space. Dan, all right,

787
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: here we go. This one will be uh, I don't know.

788
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: Throw this one to t D. All Right, here we go.

789
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: Who do you trust Mark Sessler at an Indie bar,

790
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: at the Combine work trip or west at a West

791
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: the l A tavern on his birthday which is next week?

792
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: And what are we talking about trust here? Let's clarify

793
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: that trust to open just kind of keep it open.

794
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: Just who do you trust in that spot? I don't

795
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: trust neither, but I think I'm gonna have more fun

796
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: with Wes. Wow. Wow, I don't like that answer at all.

797
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: Why you think he would be a better partner at

798
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: a tavern? Yeah? You know, I like being underrated. And

799
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: let's start right there. And defense, they're both fun. I

800
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: can vouch for that. TD's defense. He did open the

801
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: show by calling him a comprehensive buzz kill. I'm just

802
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: dealing in facts, alright. Alright, Tissler, I think that you

803
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: would be a lot of fun. Nobody's more fun to

804
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 1: hang out with him. Mark Sassler market a lot of fun, alright,

805
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: you guys. We get at a tavern in West l

806
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: a good times. Alright, the lightning round for Lindsay now

807
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: because we gotta we got a ghost in before we

808
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: get to Malcolm Butler. Here we go. Who do you

809
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: trust Lindsay? Andrew cecil Leano or Scott Hansen? Quick? Quick? Quick?

810
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: Quite quite qui quick absolutely not this game? Okay? Who

811
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: do you trust to have read the most articles in

812
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: a day? And or Siciliano? Who do you trust the mailman?

813
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: Quiet Storm or old d Money the Zusa? What do

814
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 1: you trust the alright, good answer? Who do you trust?

815
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: We got another one for her? Quick um, Kurt Warner

816
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: or Dion Sanders not gonna answer that either to do

817
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: what you know to watch your your child for a night.

818
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: Well that's clearly Kurt great, so much experience in that department.

819
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: And Kurt, I will say, is always the guy who

820
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: asks about my child when I run into a sign

821
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: would teach my kid? My kid would be like saying

822
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: hashtag truth when I got home. And if his first

823
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: words are hashtag truth, I have a problem. Start West. I.

824
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: This is one of the reason that we got to

825
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: get the West Bachelor going. I have found that having

826
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: a kid is a great conversation piece with just at like,

827
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: let's say with the combine and we see a reporter

828
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: at Shula's, let's talk about our kids. Everything's fine. It

829
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: gives you a jumping off point. That's the main reason

830
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: I had my son Jack. Yeah, that's just the conversation awkward. Yeah,

831
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: a verbal coffee table people. If I don't want to

832
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: speak with these people, well, listen to a lot of

833
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: a lot of hurdles. You got to open up your heart. West.

834
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: I am a degenerate again, ladies, you this could be

835
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 1: yours fairly all right. So we got Malcolm Butler coming in.

836
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: So because we only have four mikes, it's literally a

837
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: physical issue. We gotta say goodbye to Lindsay, who's got

838
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 1: by the Way document. I'm getting kicked out. We got

839
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: by the Way. Lindsay has a bigger fish to fry.

840
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: She's hosting the flagship program of NFL network Total Access.

841
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: Before that, I will be picketing outside the fact that

842
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: I have been kicked out best in House US of

843
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: the podcast history top top six. I would say, for sure,

844
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: top six? Have you had six guests? That's not where

845
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: I was going. No, Lindsay, this is a great time.

846
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: We have a have a great final segment. Lindsay, this

847
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: was a great time. I hope here Burger here taking

848
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: shots of Burger. You could tell the tell Burger that

849
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: I won't because he'll cry about it. He Burger is

850
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: a very sensitive individual. Alright, So Lindsay Rhodes, thank you

851
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: very much for joining us. Lindsay Rhodes Twitter handle is

852
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: at Lindsay Rhodes, at Lindsay and then at Lindsay Underscore Roads. Yeah,

853
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: so I hit her up on Twitter. But be nice followers,

854
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: well year old in Indiana or something exactly, you know.

855
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: All right, Lindsay Rods, thank you very much. All Right,

856
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: Lindsay is out the door and in her place in

857
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: the seat to my right now is the man that

858
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: made one of the biggest plays in Super Bowl history.

859
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: That's a real thing. That's not hyperbole. That is not hyperbole.

860
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: Is defensive back for the New England Patriots. Malcolm Butler.

861
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Around the NFL podcast. Malcolm, thank you

862
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: for having me. This has been, guys, a long day

863
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: from Mr Butler. Nfl AM which tapes here in l

864
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: a at about I think one thirty seven am, and

865
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: the show Malcolm was there. He's going through what they

866
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: called the car wash and he's here with us, and

867
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: it's very exciting. We were at the super Bowl and

868
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: in fact, Malcolm, I remember right after the game, you know,

869
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: they took you into the first room where the risers were,

870
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: and I got I asked you a question, and of

871
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: course you remember my face. It was like a big

872
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: interaction we had together. Probably not, but I remember asking you.

873
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: This is probably forty five minutes after the game happened.

874
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: Right we were with the scrum. I said, has it

875
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: has it kinda set in in your mind yet that

876
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: you just made this play and like this life changing

877
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: type play? And you hesitated and you said, I don't know, man,

878
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: you it was such a big play. When did it

879
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: really click with you that you had made one of

880
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: the biggest plays in NFL history? Um, you know, I

881
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: think like two days after that, Um, it was all

882
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: of mine. I was I was lead. Um I woke

883
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: up and I really just you know, just put everything

884
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: in perspective. And I was just like putting myself as

885
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: a fan on the couch or at the game and

886
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: the stands and I'm going for the Patriots and I

887
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: don't I know We've benna lose. That's a that's a

888
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: that it touches the heart. But you know, um, I

889
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: thought about the player I made and changed all those

890
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: feelings and gave hope and just changed the um the

891
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: whole big idea about losing to a winning situation and

892
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 1: it just it's just I probably had a many heart

893
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,959
Speaker 1: attacks a couple of times, but I'm managing it well

894
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: and I'm just glad I could hear my team win.

895
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: It's a fair it's a fairly unique thing to be

896
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: in that position, to play that that's watched by that

897
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: many people. Not many people get to experience what you did,

898
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: now you um, you're right, Um, I really thought about it,

899
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 1: and you know this this big for any rookie. Um,

900
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: that's a big play for any rookie. Duh, duh the

901
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: have and make and man, it's just it's just unexplainable

902
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: at times. One thing I mean in that game specifically,

903
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: I remember and at halftime we're reading some stuff from

904
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: some Patriots reporters and said, this guy is suddenly playing

905
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: a ton of snaps in the Super Bowl where we

906
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: haven't seen this amount of play from him in other games.

907
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: That you're cutting your teeth in the biggest game of

908
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: the year. What was it? Did you did you know

909
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: go in knowing that you might play a larger role.

910
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: Were you prepared for that or was it just they

911
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: said you're in, let's roll. Um? Yeah, you know, Um,

912
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: of course everyone wants to play. UM. And when I'm

913
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: out there and and I see I feel like I

914
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: can make a player two and I'm gonna feel like

915
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: I want to be out there. But overall, UM, I'm

916
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: just always ready whenever I get my opportunity. And I

917
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: remember one game, uh read was that own and um

918
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: I was. I got in for him. And I remember

919
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: another game I was ready to play, but I wouldn't

920
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: prepare and I got in didn't do so well. So

921
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 1: after that, you know, I just I gotta stay ready

922
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: and when I get in, I'm ready to go. I'm

923
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: ready to play ball. You were prepared this time that

924
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: the whole final drive was great for you because you

925
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 1: have the first play where you knocked the ball away

926
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: and then you knocked the ball away from Curse. He

927
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: ends up catching it, but you have the presence of

928
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: mind to get up and tackle him, and then you

929
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: make to play in the end zone there, which will

930
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: be one of the best players that that's great, serious

931
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: for you. You bring up the curse play. I mean,

932
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: and this is the crazy thing to me. When I

933
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: was writing up the post after, I was thinking about,

934
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: like myself and your shoes, like that play with curse

935
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: when he juggles the ball and comes down with it

936
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: if they go in the end zone. That is the

937
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: play that this bull is remembered by. And and who's

938
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 1: in coverage? And they played Malcolm Butler, So Malcolm Butler

939
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: Butler is Rodney Harrison on the catchplay, the helmet catch.

940
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: He's the guy that is in coverage and the guy,

941
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: the glory boy guy. It was like the turn, the

942
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: about turn from being the guy on one side of

943
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: the coin to the other is unprecedented. I mean, that's

944
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 1: how close you came to NFL infamy. And that's crazy too. Yeah.

945
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: When they made that play, um, well, I jumped up

946
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: for the ball. I found the ball, broke it up

947
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: and I was falling down. Was like, okay, good break up,

948
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 1: good break up. But you know, as I rolled over,

949
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: I tried to get up fast. You know that. You know,

950
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: my momentum had me. You know, I was ready to play.

951
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: I was amp and I looked at him and he

952
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: had the ball. I was like, hold on, so I

953
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: just ran over to him. I really, I try to

954
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: punch it out, but you know, he had security and

955
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: he got out of bound. So I came out on

956
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: that play. Um, I went to the sideline. I was,

957
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: I was in pain, you know. Um. I know we're

958
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 1: a team and it don't come down to one play

959
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: where it does, but if we would have lost, I

960
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: would felt like that was the play that changed the game.

961
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: So I'm on the side like I ain't gonna be

962
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: able to get through this. I'm gonna have a bad offseason. So, um,

963
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: they called goal line three corner. I'm like, three corners.

964
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: They must finn to pass it, but I'm like, no,

965
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: they're not gonna pass it because they have Marshawn Lynch.

966
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: So I mean so that they actually had the errors

967
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: on the field first, and then the coaches caught the

968
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: alignment and had you come here. Yeah, yeah, they called

969
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: three corners, and um, that play came up. I told

970
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: Browning get jam him good and he did. Yeah, so

971
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 1: I can get around because I knew. I knew exactly

972
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: what was gonna happen, and I got beat on the play.

973
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: At practice, I was laid on it. Um, I took

974
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: a step back then went and I didn't know. I

975
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: wasn't sure if they was gonna pass, but um, they

976
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: got Marshawn Lynch, so I'm thinking they're gonna run it

977
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: in anyway, so I might as well take a chance.

978
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: But that play came to my memory when I seen

979
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: the guy stack, so I said, forget it. I'm just

980
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: almost as if the Patriots are well coached. Hey, T,

981
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 1: D behind the glass you are, and Malcolm, you shud

982
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: understand that if there's weirdness that you're sensing. The biggest

983
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: fanboy of Russell Wilson in the game right now is TD.

984
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: So TD, that's your chance to talk to Malcolm. Well, Malcolm,

985
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: you know what, Like I said at the moment, In

986
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: the moment, I also was at the game, and I

987
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: kind of felt like some type of weight what you

988
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: did the Russell you know, that wasn't cool. But I

989
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: would say this though, going back and watching the you

990
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: know NFL films, you know, replay of the game and

991
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:28,959
Speaker 1: big ups to that play you made, Like you said,

992
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: you clearly went for broke on that one. You're like,

993
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna jump this past when

994
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: the flips oide of that, do you really think I

995
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: know you're happy for the paths and happy that you

996
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: won the game, but do you think how crushing that

997
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: was the Seahawks fans? Because I'm not I still contend

998
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: that I'm not fully a Seahawks fan. You are definitely changing,

999
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: But I was crushed, man, I was crushed because right

1000
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: there at the line, right there at the Super Bowl

1001
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: getting taken away. Do you do you ever have time

1002
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: to think what it was peel like for Seahawks? Man?

1003
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,439
Speaker 1: I bet it takes up a lot of his thoughts. Uh, yeah,

1004
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: of course, Um yeah, um, you know that played that

1005
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: the guy caught on me. Um, I guess I can

1006
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 1: say I feel that way when he called that ball,

1007
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: and I think that the gang was always the same feeling. Um, Malcolm,

1008
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: A couple of quick things because I know you've got

1009
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: more stuff to do within the walls, and thank you

1010
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: for joining us. First of all, you got the Chevy.

1011
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: Brady gave you the Chevy or how to get to you?

1012
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: You know, fifteen grand and taxes they're reporting? Uh maybe

1013
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 1: maybe Brady, you know the slide you a brown paper bag?

1014
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: Right like he can't afford it, like, let's let's if

1015
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna give the man a truck, let's give the

1016
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: man a truck. This is your chance to say on

1017
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: our podcast, Tom Brady, give me money. Now, I wouldn't

1018
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 1: say that. Um you know I'm thankful for whatever I get.

1019
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: And um you know that's a ce ron um. You're

1020
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 1: not gonna get no brand new truck for thousand nowhere.

1021
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: That's a good deal, all right. The other the other question,

1022
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: we were talking about this over lunch. Uh, Mark you

1023
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: It was about well, I mean, are you you know

1024
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: you saw Brady's reaction when you pick that ball off?

1025
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: Are you on the invite list? Anytime Brady has people

1026
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 1: over for crumpets and tea or whatever it is does

1027
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 1: in his house? I mean, are you Are you going

1028
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: over there? Brady has an infinity pool and Gizelle is involved.

1029
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: Are you in the Are you in the club? Now? Um? Mom,

1030
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if if he invite Bet, you know

1031
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm on and welcome to cole and beyond that. So

1032
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: let's see. I assume that Brady better invite Malcolm Butler.

1033
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: The party is going forward. Maybe he's part of the illuminati.

1034
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: Do you know what that is the secret society? Are

1035
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: you potentially and you don't not if you can't say it,

1036
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: Are you in the Illuminati? Now that you made the

1037
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: super Bowl? Well not at all. You've clearly gone a

1038
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: list though. You've been making the rounds all week. Now

1039
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: you're you're the guy. Yeah, what what was scary? The

1040
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: Grammys or the super Bowl? To walk up on the

1041
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: stage or to play in the biggest game of your life. Oh,

1042
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a tough one. I don't know. I'm

1043
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: not I'm not sure that was a tough Well, I

1044
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: guess the super Bowl was more exciting. Yeah, the Grammy

1045
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: as well, So that's your field. Yeah, who wrote the

1046
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: joke about you intercepting the Grammy? Grammy? That was a

1047
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: bad joke. I know you didn't write it anyway. Malcolm Butler,

1048
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. Congratulations again, obviously a nice guy,

1049
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: and it's good to see an undrafted free agent becoming

1050
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: a Buro And best of luck to you going forward,

1051
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: and thank you for joining us. Thanks Malcolm, Thank you,

1052
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: all right, Malcolm Butler out the door. Nice guy. I

1053
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: like him. I think it's like he's still in that

1054
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: afterglow where he's for the first time as an NFL

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Speaker 1: player being asked anything, and it's gotta be good to

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Speaker 1: see he hasn't been spoiled by his week and half

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Speaker 1: of success. That's fair. By the way, Well was that.

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Speaker 1: I'm really proud of you guys because before the interview

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Speaker 1: or booking team was like, he's very shy, he's very humble,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be really quiet. But you know, you guys

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Speaker 1: got him to speak. And even when you guys are

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Speaker 1: just making jokes, he was laughing at It's almost like profession. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: it was great haveing Malcolm in the studio. We will

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Speaker 1: be back. We are going to the combine, Mark and

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Speaker 1: I West. You are holding the fourth down uh here

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. So our next the next time you

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Speaker 1: you hear from us, we'll have some type of hook

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Speaker 1: up going on where we'll give you a Combine report

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Speaker 1: and we'll we'll do some good stuff. I think Monday

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Speaker 1: and Thursday, is that correct? It's CBD. Me and Greg's

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Speaker 1: working on this as well. You see Monday and Friday,

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Speaker 1: you know, so keep an eye out. Monday is the

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Speaker 1: next podcast from us. Thank you for listening. Uh. This

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Speaker 1: is Dan Hansas signing off. For the Quiet Storm, the

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Speaker 1: Mailman and t D Behind the Glass and and Lindsay Rhodes,

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Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. Lenz, I call her until Monday.

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Speaker 1: Oh snapped, I got a document