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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, and we're back.

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Speaker 2: So a little birdie told me that we missed our

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Speaker 2: thirtieth episode.

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Speaker 3: Thirty thirty was last week.

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Speaker 2: I know, and so fully grown. Now you know, we've

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Speaker 2: decided not to stress. The show is not stressing about

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Speaker 3: Right, we are an I d EP and d E

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Speaker 3: and T podcast. Yeah, we're good, exactly.

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Speaker 1: And so this is Tiffany and Mandy and today's the show.

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Speaker 3: Today is an amazing show. I'm really excited for this show,

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Speaker 3: you guys, because, oh, go ahead, I.

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Speaker 1: Was gonna say. I heard that we have a special

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Speaker 3: We don't do guests often, but when we do, they

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Speaker 3: are amazing. And today's guest is going to be no exception.

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Speaker 3: Her name is Adrian Myth, and you may not know

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Speaker 3: her name now, but keep watching because she is an

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Speaker 3: up and coming professional tackle women's football superstar. And I

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Speaker 3: know that you may not know about women's tackle football

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Speaker 3: because until a few months ago I did not know either.

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Speaker 3: But across the country in America, there are over three

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Speaker 3: thousand women who are actually paying to play tackle football,

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Speaker 3: and hardly anybody knows about it, but for the love

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Speaker 3: of the game, they are playing, They're pouring their hearts

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Speaker 3: out on the field. And I just completed a pretty

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Speaker 3: exhaustive feature story for Yahoo on women's tackle football, and

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Speaker 3: I thought I would have Adrian come on the show

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Speaker 3: and just talk to us about what it's like to

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Speaker 3: being a woman trying to break barriers in football, and

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Speaker 3: not only that, but how she juggles a football career

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Speaker 2: No big deal, I know, no big deal, just you know,

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Speaker 2: just rocking out like a freaking rock star.

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Speaker 3: Wait wait, wait till you hear her workout regimen.

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Speaker 1: What is it?

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Speaker 3: We talked about it, you were there. I know, No,

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Speaker 3: I thought it was so incredible at Blue Tiffany's mind.

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Speaker 3: And she does not remember what it was.

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Speaker 1: Let me stay focused, but no, she was incredible.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well that's coming up later in the show.

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Speaker 3: We still really would love you guys to email us

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Speaker 3: So how was your weekend?

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Speaker 1: It was pretty awesome.

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Speaker 2: I went someplace super special that is so in alignment

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Speaker 2: with Brown ambishon. I actually went to the taping of

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Speaker 2: Black Girls.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you're staying on theme.

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Speaker 1: Yes I am.

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Speaker 2: You know, I am a blae so I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: I've been to one of the award shows before and

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Speaker 2: I just love that they tape right in Newark, Newark,

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Speaker 2: Leadership Academy that they have for girls called Black Girls Lead.

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Speaker 2: And as like a thank you, and I was not

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Speaker 1: Give you just just a little snippet because we're not

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Speaker 1: you a little snippet. It was amazing. It was honestly,

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Speaker 1: like the performances were all amazing. Rihanna was there. She

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Speaker 2: She was amazing and her opening number, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, look at Tracy. Her opening number is everything.

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Speaker 3: So she's saying, dance. What did she do?

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Speaker 2: She I'm just gonna leave it up. She dances a

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Speaker 1: that opening number, Like there were who else was there

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Speaker 3: Like Rihanna, I feel like her style has the literal

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Speaker 1: You know how brown girls get down.

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Speaker 1: So Hillary did show up. I knew she was going

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Speaker 2: it was very cool to see her there.

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Speaker 3: People put a lot of pressure on politicians to like

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Speaker 3: because she has, like has done so much work for

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Speaker 1: Honestly. She she said something that really resonated. She said

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Speaker 1: that's not fair. So she said something that really resonated.

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Speaker 1: So she definitely like hit some really key points. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: This is quite sad. I grew up watching Martin and

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Speaker 3: Was reading the details that. I mean, the celebrity bankruptcies

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Speaker 3: So together, this couple, they earn a little bit over

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Speaker 3: And if that wasn't enough, they have one hundred and

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Speaker 1: Like I was.

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Speaker 2: I remember watching this video Will Smith talking about when

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Speaker 2: He was fortunate that he had a second chance, because

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Speaker 3: Well, is that what he did wild West? That wasn't

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Speaker 2: No, it was younger, I know that was Meanwhile, you

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Speaker 1: You know what I love about Will Smith is that

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Speaker 2: He was like somebody asked him like, did he have

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Speaker 2: the Matrix and when they explained it, it didn't make sense

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Speaker 1: You want to do it? And he was like, no, instead,

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Speaker 1: I'll do Wild West and the way he explains it.

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Speaker 2: It's so hilarious and the fact that he admits that,

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Speaker 1: There's this great book call that I'm sure you've heard

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Speaker 2: Because they really illustrate that most American millionaires are not

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Speaker 3: Never heard of it. Oh yeah, I have heard of it,

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And you see these people and they get the crazy surgery,

438
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Speaker 3: but their habits don't change. Yeah, And I feel like

439
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Speaker 3: I got it.

440
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

441
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Speaker 3: I feel like overeating and overspending are like kind of

442
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Speaker 3: the same mental like the same psychological stuff is happening there.

443
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Speaker 1: I agree that I think that enough people don't tackle

444
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Speaker 1: the emotional and mental reason behind the action, because honestly,

445
00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,719
Speaker 1: like saving and getting losing weight, it's not rocket science.

446
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,400
Speaker 1: If you eat less calories, you'll lose weight. That's it. Period.

447
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Speaker 1: Like there's a scientist that that had done this interesting

448
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Speaker 1: study which I thought was like funny, not funny, but like,

449
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Speaker 1: you know, funny, not funny ha ha, but funny. Hmm.

450
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Speaker 1: He did the.

451
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Speaker 2: Study where he like, ate less calories but all junk

452
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Speaker 2: food like twinkies, this and that, but he ate a

453
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Speaker 2: low like he ate enough to be low calorie, you

454
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Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like, and so he was losing

455
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Speaker 2: weight eating twinkies because he wanted to prove that losing

456
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Speaker 2: weight has not It's not really about the health quantity

457
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Speaker 2: or like the health you know, quotion of the food itself.

458
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Speaker 2: Really it's a mathematic equation. Less calories then you're burning,

459
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Speaker 2: you'll lose weight. And so, like I said, it's not

460
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Speaker 2: rocket science, but there's a reason why some people struggle

461
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Speaker 2: with losing weight. There's a reason why people struggle with finances,

462
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 2: because the same thing with money. If you make one

463
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Speaker 2: hundred dollars, spend seventy, that's it. If you do that

464
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Speaker 2: or spend eighty. So there's not rocket science, but it's like, well,

465
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Speaker 2: why do some people just have so much trouble with it?

466
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Speaker 2: And there's some sort of mental emotional block that needs

467
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Speaker 2: to be addressed or you'll be right back at it.

468
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Speaker 2: And it does make you angry from the outside. But

469
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Speaker 2: then you wonder, like, why why is this happening? What

470
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Speaker 2: is it that's making this person stay here? Why do

471
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Speaker 2: see people continue to smoke even though it's making them sick.

472
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Speaker 2: Why do people continue to drink even though it's killing them,

473
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Speaker 2: like literally, then some people it's killing you and the

474
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Speaker 2: doctor's like, it's killing you and you're still drinking.

475
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Speaker 1: So what is that? Honestly, And I don't know what

476
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Speaker 1: that is.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a psychologist, I'm not a and I just

478
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Speaker 2: know that for some reason, there are parts of human

479
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Speaker 2: nature that put us in harm's way. And unless you

480
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Speaker 2: address whatever that part is inside of you, then you

481
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Speaker 2: will continue to make those mistakes.

482
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Speaker 3: And it's only yourself who can get yourself out of there.

483
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Speaker 3: If you're out there, And I mean I've been there,

484
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Speaker 3: I've been in a cycle of debt. I grew up

485
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Speaker 3: in a householder. Money was always talked about in terms

486
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Speaker 3: of like negativity and like the bills are being doing,

487
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Speaker 3: people are fighting. And it took me a long time

488
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Speaker 3: to get over that. That sense of fear around money,

489
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Speaker 3: and that sense of fear is what caused me to

490
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Speaker 3: do things like be laid on my student loans and

491
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Speaker 3: put my head in the sand and not check my

492
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Speaker 3: credit and ignore my finances for several years after college

493
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Speaker 3: because I was afraid. I always thought, well, when you

494
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Speaker 3: open the envelopes and it's bad news, right, it's not

495
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Speaker 3: always bad news. I mean, I had the money to

496
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Speaker 3: pay my loans, but I just wasn't paying them. I mean,

497
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Speaker 3: that's it took me. It took me, you know, to

498
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Speaker 3: lose my job and to follow my butt pretty hard

499
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Speaker 3: to have that tough realization that I have to start

500
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Speaker 3: paying attention. I don't know if these people can be saved, honestly,

501
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 3: but definitely took that show outs called Life or Debt.

502
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Speaker 3: If you want to feel better about your life, I

503
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Speaker 3: highly recommend it. I felt really good about my situation,

504
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Speaker 3: real good.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, yeah, it's just crazy when you look

506
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Speaker 2: at stuff like that because you're just like, oh my gosh,

507
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Speaker 2: but it happens, and you hopefully.

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Speaker 1: My mom would always.

509
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Speaker 2: Tell me that you can either learn you can learn

510
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Speaker 2: the lesson by watching the lesson or you can learn

511
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Speaker 2: the lesson by living the lesson. And I was like,

512
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Speaker 2: I think I like to watch this one. You know,

513
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Speaker 2: let me sit it on the outside and be like, oh,

514
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Speaker 2: you know what, Actually I don't want to go in

515
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Speaker 2: that direction.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for showing me.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to do the opposite of what Tisha Campbell

518
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Speaker 3: Martin has done. Just can I order that life? Like

519
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Speaker 3: the opposite of everything?

520
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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'll take that.

521
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Speaker 4: I think a little bit of the opposite.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Brian Ambition Fan, We're back and I am so

523
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Speaker 3: excited to introduce our guests this week. Her name is

524
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Speaker 3: Adrian Smith. Like I mentioned before, she is a like

525
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Speaker 3: the epitome of a badass entrepreneur slash sports superstar. I

526
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Speaker 3: had the chance to talk with Adrian for a long

527
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Speaker 3: sort of investigative story I did on women's football and

528
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Speaker 3: how women are playing across the country. Thousands of women

529
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Speaker 3: playing tackle, full on, shoulder pad, knock you on your

530
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Speaker 3: butt football and they're actually paying to play. So I

531
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Speaker 3: talked with many different football players and coaches across the country,

532
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Speaker 3: and Adrian was one of my favorite to chat with.

533
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Speaker 3: Not only is she from New York, where we're from, too,

534
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Speaker 3: she commutes actually to Boston in order to play the

535
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Speaker 3: sports she loved so much. And on the side, she

536
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Speaker 3: has a few side gigs. She has an entire media

537
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Speaker 3: company and a blog called gridron queendom dot com and

538
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Speaker 3: I'll post a link to that in the blog. She

539
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Speaker 3: also runs a hip hop tour in Harlem, New York,

540
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Speaker 3: which we're going to talk about. So I want to

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Speaker 3: welcome to the show, Miss Adrian.

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Speaker 5: Smith, thank you, Mandy Happy.

543
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for being here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, say hi Tip, Hey.

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Speaker 5: Tiffany, how are you.

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Speaker 1: I was on your site and.

547
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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, like somebody, I was on your

548
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Speaker 2: great iron queen.

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Speaker 3: Okay, good, So, Adrian, I want to start off by saying,

550
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Speaker 3: for people who don't know about the world of women's

551
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Speaker 3: tackle football, which I realized after writing the story, is like,

552
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Speaker 3: not very many people in the mainstream, like, what does

553
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Speaker 3: it mean for you guys to pay to play football?

554
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Speaker 3: Why are you doing that?

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Speaker 1: It's you know, some people will hear that and they'll

556
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Speaker 1: be like, oh, I can't believe you know, they would

557
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Speaker 1: actually do that or pay to to do something like that.

558
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Speaker 1: But for me, America is a great country and we

559
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Speaker 1: have the privilege, we have the opportunity to experience a dream.

560
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Speaker 1: So for me, and I know for thousands of other

561
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Speaker 1: women throughout the country and honestly throughout the world, it's

562
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Speaker 1: an honor and a privilege to be able to put

563
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Speaker 1: money towards something you've wanted to do since you were

564
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Speaker 1: a little girl.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you've been playing for ten years now.

566
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Speaker 5: Right right, I'm entering my eleventh season.

567
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Speaker 3: Talk to me about how much you've invested in playing

568
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Speaker 3: so far. I think you were talking about how much

569
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Speaker 3: it costs to play internationally and represent the US and

570
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Speaker 3: just how incredibly expensive that can be.

571
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Speaker 1: Right, So, for international competition, and this is where I'm

572
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Speaker 1: on the US women's tackle football team and on the

573
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Speaker 1: US women's flag football team, So we're competing internationally against

574
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Speaker 1: other countries, kind of like the Olympics, but there is

575
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Speaker 1: no funding for US, So a lot of the women

576
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Speaker 1: fundraise for me. I'm just taking money from my other

577
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Speaker 1: jobs and putting it towards my expenses, which run the

578
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Speaker 1: gamut of you know, we have to cover our own

579
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Speaker 1: flight to say Sweden or to Finland, we have to

580
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Speaker 1: cover uniforms, all of that, and for internationally, I probably

581
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Speaker 1: have spent over fifteen thousand dollars to represent the United

582
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Speaker 1: States to come back with some gold medals in women's

583
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Speaker 1: tackle football and some silver medals and women's flag football,

584
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Speaker 1: and domestically in terms of you know, every year playing

585
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Speaker 1: within the women's league here in the United States, easily

586
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Speaker 1: a couple thousand dollars just in player fees that you

587
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Speaker 1: have to pay towards the team, and then travel expenses, equipment, food,

588
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Speaker 1: lodging that type of thing.

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Speaker 2: Wow, question, I would love to know, like when, because clearly,

590
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Speaker 2: if it's not money that's motivating you to play the sport,

591
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Speaker 2: it's the love of it.

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Speaker 1: When. How old were you Do you remember when did

593
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Speaker 1: you fall in love with football? Well, I'm told that

594
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Speaker 1: when I was three years old. I kind of vaguely

595
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Speaker 1: remember this, Tiffany, I had this teddy bear named Ginger.

596
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Speaker 5: He was a boy. I don't know why I named

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Speaker 5: him Ginger.

598
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Speaker 1: Anyway, my dad brought him back for me from one

599
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Speaker 1: of his business trips, and I fell in love with Ginger.

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Speaker 1: And Ginger and I were the same size, so this

601
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Speaker 1: was a pretty big, you know, pretty big teddy bear.

602
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Speaker 1: And apparently I used to set Ginger up on the

603
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Speaker 1: floor in the living room and from the television and

604
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Speaker 1: tackle him while football was playing on TV. So that's

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Speaker 1: I don't know where all that came from, but you know,

606
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Speaker 1: clearly I just had this urge to just be a

607
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Speaker 1: part of what I was seeing.

608
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Speaker 5: And then, you know, my love didn't it didn't go away.

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Speaker 1: And I remember when I was seven years old, my

610
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: dad got me a nurse football for Christmas and he

611
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Speaker 1: taught me how to throw and you know my mom, she's.

612
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 5: Had great hands, so she taught me how to catch.

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Speaker 1: And so just growing up in the neighborhood, I would

614
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Speaker 1: play with the boys in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 5: And then my mom comes from a.

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Speaker 1: Large family, so I have a lot of cousins and

617
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Speaker 1: had a large group of male cousins, and every summer

618
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Speaker 1: when we would go to Arkansas, I would play with

619
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Speaker 1: them and just no one ever said you can't do

620
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Speaker 1: it because you're so I just kept going. But obviously,

621
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Speaker 1: like for me, in junior high school and high school,

622
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Speaker 1: I was involved in other.

623
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Speaker 5: Sports sou softball, basketball.

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Speaker 1: I didn't start really playing tackle football until I became

625
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Speaker 1: an adult. Otherwise I was playing flag football in high

626
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Speaker 1: school and in college. Wow, so three years old, it's.

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Speaker 5: Been a minute. Excuse me as I sip on my

628
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Speaker 5: tea from my one to one's cup.

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Speaker 2: No, that's awesome, though. I just love when you know

630
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: everyone is not super fortunate to find that thing that

631
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Speaker 2: drives them and or at least to be able to

632
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Speaker 2: identify it clearly, the thing that Like one of my

633
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: friends played professional basketball. She's six two six y three

634
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: and she just you can just tell when she plays.

635
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Speaker 2: I mean we played outside, We've like, I've seen her

636
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Speaker 2: play like we volunteered in Haiti, I've seen her play

637
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: like at summer camps where we were out there, and

638
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 2: the look on her face when she plays, just like

639
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,239
Speaker 2: you could just tell it's just about the game and

640
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: how much she enjoys it. And so it's just really

641
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: fortunate that you found that thing that makes her heart

642
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: beat faster.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And it's interesting you bring that up because you, Tiffany,

644
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Speaker 1: you just reminded me of something. For me, probably the

645
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: past decade decade and a half, honestly, have been really tough.

646
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: I've experienced a lot of loss in terms of just

647
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,959
Speaker 1: family members passing away and just a whole bunch of

648
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Speaker 1: other stuff we don't need to get into right now.

649
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Speaker 1: But I noticed that, you know, I tell people that

650
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Speaker 1: football kind of saved my life because it was the

651
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Speaker 1: only time that I didn't feel pain. It was the

652
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Speaker 1: only time where I wasn't succumbing to you know, depression.

653
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Speaker 1: So for me, it was almost like a lifeline. It

654
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Speaker 1: was a point in time, whether it was practice or

655
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Speaker 1: during the games, where I could feel euphoria, I felt joyous,

656
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: I was I was focused on a single task or

657
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: a single goal, and it definitely was an outlet that

658
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: has helped me get through to some of the toughest

659
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: times of my life.

660
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 3: You know, I think what's exciting and just speaking to

661
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: all the I mean, I spoke to women across the country,

662
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 3: women football players for this story, and I feel like

663
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 3: what was really gave me the warm and fuzzies just

664
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: talking to you guys was how you talked about your

665
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 3: teammates and one another. And I feel like anybody who's

666
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 3: ever said that women can't be friends and women are

667
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 3: competitive and don't want to support one another, I feel

668
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 3: like all they need to do is just go to

669
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Speaker 3: one of your games and see you working so well together.

670
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: That's you know, that's really true. And I've never been

671
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: a believer in that. I've played team sports since I

672
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: was in the third grade, and for me, being an

673
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: only child, my team, my team became my family.

674
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 5: So like even now, if any of my.

675
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: High school teammates, junior high teammates, college teammates, regardless of

676
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: the sport, called me up and needed something, I'd be

677
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: there for them.

678
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 5: There's certain bonds that.

679
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: Form when you are you know, you're spending so much

680
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: time together and your success relies on the other person

681
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: and vice versa, and especially especially in football, because it

682
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: is such a physical sport that you are at times

683
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: going into battle and so you can come away injured

684
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: if your teammate does not do what she's supposed to do.

685
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: So I think more so even in my softball experience

686
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: and my basketball experience, football really forges strong bonds because

687
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: the risks are so much higher.

688
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 3: You know, I was just thinking because I through my

689
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 3: research for this story, I read a study of really

690
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: by a renowned group of researchers who found that people,

691
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: especially women, who participate in group sports team sports younger

692
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 3: in their lives are way more successful in their careers. Yes,

693
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 3: and climbing the corporate ladder. Do you feel like playing

694
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 3: football has helped you build your businesses?

695
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, First of all, I think I've read that

696
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: study or something similar as well, and it's true sports

697
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: for girls help us develop certain i think, skill sets

698
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: that may be lacking in terms of general society or

699
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: what one would gain from the educational system.

700
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 5: But definitely for football.

701
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: I mean gridiron queendom is a business that I gave

702
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: birth to because of football, and then just the international

703
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: experience that I've gained Representing our country, has increased my

704
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: network exponentially in terms of the people that I know

705
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: throughout the world and just giving me unique insights and

706
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: opening certain doors that just would not have existed if

707
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: I did not play football, you know, if I had

708
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: played continue to play basketball, or continue to play softball.

709
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: Those are territories that have you know, kind of already

710
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: been navigated, so to speak. So there's nothing really new,

711
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: but I'm forging new ground and you know, cutting away

712
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: all these these weeds and these trees when it comes

713
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: to football. So yes, most definitely it has had a

714
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: tremendous impact on my business mindset and the creation of

715
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: a new business.

716
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 3: Well what would you, oh, go ahead.

717
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, so, Adrian, what would you

718
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: say if to maybe there's a girl in middle school

719
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: or high school and she wants to play what's traditionally

720
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: thought of as a male or boy sport, and you

721
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: know she's not exactly getting you know, the support of

722
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: her family and friends, Like, what advice would you give,

723
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: because you know, that's such a Mandy and I were

724
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: talking about earlier that the most what do we say

725
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: fifteen is when your most depressed stage in life.

726
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, research sho fifteen years girls, that's their lowest point.

727
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: And so you're already like as a teenager, you know,

728
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: or preteen going through so much. What advice would you

729
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 2: give to that young woman or someone who's raising somebody

730
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: who's kind of like that young woman.

731
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 5: Right, it's a good question.

732
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: And the kind of the hashtag that we always use

733
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: for grid Iron Queendom and we post anything on social

734
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: media or kind of like the mantra for the company.

735
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 5: Is just girl play football. That's it. Just girl play football.

736
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 5: That's it for me.

737
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: Again, my view on the world might be I'm not

738
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: looking through rose colored glasses over here. And life's tough.

739
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: It gets just tough being female. It's tough being a

740
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: black female. It's just hard. So you know, I'm gonna

741
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: have some of that tough love in terms of get

742
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: over it, get used to it, woman up, and if

743
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: it's in your heart to do something, and again that

744
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: does is positive. It's not something that's going to be

745
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: negative or is going to tear down other people, pursue it.

746
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: You know, I'm of the firm belief that I'm not

747
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: trying to get too too deep here, but there is kind.

748
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 5: Of a spiritual battle going on between good and evil.

749
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: And when you have someone a young girl who wants

750
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: to do something from the pureness of her heart, you

751
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: know there's an adversary. There are things set up that

752
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: are going to try to stop you from achieving that goal,

753
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: and all you have to do is continue to push through.

754
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: Resiliency is a word I don't think people use enough.

755
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: Persistence is a word I don't think we hear enough.

756
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 1: And discipline. I mean, we're in this day and age,

757
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: this microwave society where you've got, you know, fifteen seconds

758
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: on Instagram or put your little dinner into the microwave

759
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: and you've got like a meal and.

760
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 5: A minute and a half.

761
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: And that's not what real life is about when it

762
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: comes to pursuing excellence and achieving something that no other

763
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: people have the vision for. So to that fifteen year

764
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: old girl or to that fifty five year old woman

765
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 1: who still feels as if she can't go to college

766
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 1: or she can't do this or that, suck it up

767
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: and stay true to what's in your heart. It is

768
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: going to be difficult. Excellence is always difficult. There is

769
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: no easy way around it. You know, people look at me,

770
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: and they're.

771
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 5: Like, oh, how do you stay in shape? I want

772
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 5: a six pack two?

773
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: And I'm like, look, you can either talk about it

774
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: and wish for it, or you can come with me

775
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: to the gym. And I have yet to have one

776
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: person come with me to the gym.

777
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 3: I feel like I would be scared to go to

778
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 3: the gym with you. No, let me get in shape

779
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 3: first and then I'll call Adrian.

780
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: You know, it's so crazy many because it's like just

781
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: what we were talking about that so Maydy and I

782
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 2: were talking about earlier how some people think that when

783
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: things are hard, it means they're not working right.

784
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: And we have got you know.

785
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 2: Because you're just like I was telling her the story

786
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: about like how I was watching like part of a

787
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 2: documentary of how Jaws, like you know, that famous movie Jaws.

788
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: So Steven Spielberg apparently the Jaws shark didn't work the

789
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 2: whole movie. He had to literally reinvent the movie mid taping. Wow,

790
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 2: and like, and it was just a number of things

791
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 2: that went wrong and it ended up being one of

792
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: the most iconic movies American movies in times. And he

793
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: could have said, you know what, the shark is not working,

794
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: We're canceling this, We're gonna move on. But he had

795
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 2: to readjust and understand that difficult times are part of

796
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 2: the road to success. That falling is not failing, you know.

797
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: And so just like for you to come on, you

798
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: just gave me chills because I'm just like, oh, I

799
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 2: wish more people could get that.

800
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: That like, it's supposed to look like this. It's supposed

801
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: to be hard.

802
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: There's supposed to be moments where you're just like, man,

803
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 2: I just don't even know what I'm gonna do next.

804
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: That's part of the road to success.

805
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a lot with Adrian saying, you

806
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 3: don't hear a lot of inspirational Instagram posts and quotes

807
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 3: about sucking it up. It's going to be hard. All

808
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 3: you see is, you know, follow your dreams and live

809
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 3: your passion and make a vision board, and you know

810
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: you don't see the blood, sweat and tears.

811
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, Adrian.

812
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you because you mentioned persistence, and

813
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: one of the stories we talked about that stuck out

814
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 3: of my mind is how you got recognition. You got

815
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 3: invited to the White House and you you got to

816
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: meet President Obama, right at the.

817
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 5: Yes and first Lady Michelle, Yeah.

818
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: No big deal.

819
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: What was that?

820
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 3: Like, how did you make that happen? Because you did?

821
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: You just made it happen.

822
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: Right, Well, it's again you can say I made it happen,

823
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: or it can be considered this four year process that

824
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: I had no clue would end up there. So when

825
00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: the first US women's national tackle team that ever existed

826
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: was in twenty ten, we go to Sweden, we kick

827
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: everybody's butt.

828
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 5: And we win the gold medal.

829
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: We come back and I'm like, hello, you know, where's

830
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: our ticker tape parade or you know where's something? No media,

831
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: no press, nothing, No one knew it occurred. So I said,

832
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: you know what, this isn't right. You know, we've we've

833
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: got to at least get some type of recognition. And

834
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: the first thing that came to my mind was the.

835
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 3: White House, not the local paper.

836
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: Well that's we'll see. That's the other thing. I think big,

837
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: Like I can't, I don't know what thinking small is.

838
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: So whatever, we're going to the White House. That's what

839
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: you do. You know.

840
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 5: That's what happens with the men's teams when.

841
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: They get the Super Bowl win or the you know

842
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: the World Series win, it's the White House. So I said, well, hey,

843
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: we just did something that is groundbreaking, not only in

844
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: women's sports history, but just in football history. No other

845
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: team has done what we just did. None of our

846
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: opponents scored on us. Our defense was trump tight. It

847
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: was just incredible. So, you know, I'm trying not to

848
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: be too verbose here anyway. So twenty ten July I

849
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: come back.

850
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 5: I'm like, hmm, White House, how do I do this?

851
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: So I call up two of my best girlfriends from college.

852
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 1: One works for the Department of Justice, the other ones

853
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: in the Foreign Service, and I'm like, hey, you know,

854
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: Tomy Kakarima, this is what I need to do. And

855
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: so they give me advice about who do I need

856
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: to reach out to, blah blah blah. So after four

857
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: years of emailing people, following up, researching phone calls, now meanwhile,

858
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: we've had another Women's World Championship, this time in Finland,

859
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: where again the women's team won another gold medal. So

860
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: it's two teams later and I'm still trying to make

861
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: something happen. So finally, after all this kind of diligence,

862
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: I get contacted by the White House representatives asking me

863
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: to participate. If I want to volunteer as an athlete

864
00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: representing women's football and help out with the activities going

865
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: on on the White House long for the Easter egg roll.

866
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, absolutely, I'll do that again, just willing

867
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: to just help out and have fun with kids. So

868
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: I show up early in the morning, I take the

869
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 1: earliest time slot available, I think it was seven am,

870
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: and then help out with the kids. And then my

871
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: quote unquote handler she's like, okay, we're going to go

872
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: into the White House. We're going to take pictures. And

873
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 1: so I'm like, okay, that's great. Again, I had no idea, ladies,

874
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: what was happening. Just following doing what I'm when I'm

875
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: being told nice, you know, I get this slip slip

876
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: of paper that tells me what number line I'm in.

877
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 5: So I go in line and I'm waiting, and then

878
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, I hear what.

879
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: Is that President Obama's voice? What is going on? And

880
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: then it's it's just my name's being called and here

881
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: I am. There they are, and I'm just like, oh

882
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: my goodness, hi. President President Obama's like well hello, And

883
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: all I can think is do you want to try

884
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: on my championship rings? Is what?

885
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 3: That's what she went from high. I don't even know what.

886
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 5: I'm like, you want to try my rings?

887
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: And it's like, oh, now you're just showing off.

888
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 5: And I'm just like, oh, well, well okay.

889
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: And so then I just I go to extend my

890
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: hand to first Lady Michelle, and she just looks at me,

891
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: and I just look at her and we have this

892
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: this moment and then she just she opens up her

893
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: arms and she just gives me a hug, and I'm

894
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: just like, I can't believe this is happening.

895
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 5: Amazing. I had no idea.

896
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: They are absolutely as we as we all know, I mean,

897
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 1: super well educated, phenomenal. It's just the perfect balance between

898
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: humility and royalty. That's that's the impression I.

899
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 5: Was left with.

900
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: Okay, is this moment captured? Is there a photo? Is

901
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 3: there a video?

902
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 5: I have a photo for sure? Yes, that's nice.

903
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: Yes.

904
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Speaker 3: And were you guys invited back this year or last year?

905
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 5: I was invited two years so that year so that

906
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 5: was fourteen, and then in twenty fifteen to two years

907
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 5: in a row.

908
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: Yes, that's awesome.

909
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 5: Person since and again, people you know I'll get so

910
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 5: this is a good story.

911
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: So I finally get the picture of the three of

912
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: us and I posted on I changed it to my Facebook.

913
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 5: What you call it the horizontal picture? I can't background?

914
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 3: Cover photo?

915
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 5: Thank you cover photo.

916
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: And then boom, all of a sudden, you know, everything

917
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: likes up. I'm getting all these messages, Oh my gosh,

918
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: when did this happen?

919
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 3: How was this?

920
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 5: What did you do? Da?

921
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 1: And when I started telling people, well, it all started

922
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: back in twenty ten, when I had no idea. I

923
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: was just trying to get some recognition for women's football.

924
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 5: No one wants to hear that. They don't want to

925
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 5: hear that.

926
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: They just want to know what can I do to just,

927
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: you know, make this picture happen. And I'm like, well,

928
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: I didn't know what was going to happen. I didn't

929
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: seek for it to happen. I was seeking to bring

930
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: recognition to the hard work that the women on my

931
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Speaker 1: team did.

932
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Speaker 3: So it's been since that moment, since you started this

933
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 3: venture to get to the White House five years. What

934
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 3: do you feel like has anything changed in the sport

935
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 3: since then? Is there more recognition? You told me that

936
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 3: you still carry photos and video on your phone when

937
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 3: people don't believe that tackle football for women exist.

938
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I do that. It just helps to.

939
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Speaker 1: Differentiate when I say I play football, real football as

940
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Speaker 1: opposed to the lingerie Football League. I don't want people

941
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Speaker 1: to confuse me as being a player for that league.

942
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: And yes, the landscape has changed tremendously with my good friend,

943
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: and we've been teammates on two national teams, Jen Welter,

944
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: with her being brought on board by the Arizona Cardinals

945
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: as the first female NFL coach, So that's been absolutely

946
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: tremendous and has shined a spotlight on the fact that

947
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: women can be more than just fans of the NFL

948
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Speaker 1: and wear pink jerseys, that we actually understand the game

949
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 1: and to the point where we can coach other people.

950
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 5: So she's come on board.

951
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills have hired a female coach as well,

952
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: and then we had the first full time female referee

953
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: in the NFL that occurred last season as well.

954
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 5: So things have been shifting.

955
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: I think there's a little more of a light that's

956
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: shining on women.

957
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 5: In the sport.

958
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 3: You know, I got to give a shout out to

959
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 3: to Jen Blter because it was my conversation with her

960
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 3: for a different story that led me to find out

961
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 3: that there's women across three thousand women across the country

962
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 3: paying to play tackle football just for the love of

963
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 3: the game. And that's sort of where this all came from.

964
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 3: So thank you, Jen. She's like the very godmother of

965
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: the sport. It feels like.

966
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 5: That's that's my girl. Jen. And I remember quick story

967
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 5: we were. It was training camp.

968
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: In twenty ten in Texas, like a thousand degrees and

969
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: I was trying to get a spot. I was trying to,

970
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 1: you know, become the starting wide receiver. And I remember

971
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: catching a slant and Jin, who's all about five to two.

972
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, okay, let me just get a couple

973
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 5: extra yards. I've got this pass. Let me get a

974
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 5: couple extra yards.

975
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: And I saw her and I'm like, act, she's five two,

976
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: I got this boom.

977
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 5: She hit me so hard. I was like, yeah, you

978
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 5: know what, I couldn't just I could.

979
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: Have just stayed with that catch and gone down and

980
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: it would have been okay.

981
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 5: So Walter's no joke. Okay, she is the real deal.

982
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 3: Don't sleep on Welter.

983
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 5: Just don't do yourself favor and wake up.

984
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 3: Well, Adrian. Where if you are if you've never heard

985
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 3: of women's tackle football and you are interested in finding

986
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 3: out how you can get involved or go see a game,

987
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 3: where would you tell people to go?

988
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: Uh? The first place, just to get an overall understanding,

989
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: would be gridiron queendom dot com. That site, it's my site,

990
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: and it focuses on not only the women's leagues in

991
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: the United States, but around the world. There are a

992
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: lot of women playing in Europe, in Australia as well Asia,

993
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: South America.

994
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 5: There's a lot going on.

995
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: And then if you want to drill down even further

996
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 1: on the domestic level, the main league is the Women's

997
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: Football Alliance, So that would be WFA Football dot Net.

998
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 3: Awesome. And you guys just had your first game, right

999
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 3: the first game of the season.

1000
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 5: Sure did.

1001
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting here really struggling about whether or not

1002
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: I'm going to go lift after we talk.

1003
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 5: Right now, I'm so sore.

1004
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 3: Well, I will not be lifting. So if you want

1005
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 3: to use me as an excuse.

1006
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 5: Okay, you're not in the lift, well, I think.

1007
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: I have to lift because you have no lift my

1008
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: butt of this chair, I know right now, but I've

1009
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: been getting back to working out. I just like my

1010
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 2: trainer is like a beast. I call her the beast,

1011
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: even though she's like five to one and she's like

1012
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: so deadlifts. I'm like, wait, what, what's the deadlift? She's like,

1013
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 2: you'll see and so. But it's been awesome though, And

1014
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 2: because you're right, women, she really is into like lifting.

1015
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 2: And whenever we go to the quote unquote guye section

1016
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: of the gym, you know, they're like hey, and she's like, yeah,

1017
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna need you to move as we use

1018
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 2: the machine. Thanks, and so it's just dope to see, like,

1019
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 2: you know, women out there just like and then when

1020
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 2: they see her, they're like, she's not gonna be able.

1021
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: To lift this. She's a beast. And she just I.

1022
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: Was afraid, like, oh, you know, if I lift, I'm

1023
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 2: gonna get so big and bulky, but not at all.

1024
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: She's just like, you know what, I just don't want

1025
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: to be big at both.

1026
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,479
Speaker 2: But she is shredded and like, yeah, she's just dope

1027
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 2: because I just like the fact that she just like

1028
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 2: I remember a guy came up to us in the

1029
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 2: gym and he was like, you know, you really should box,

1030
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: and he was I'll get you some pink gloves.

1031
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: She's like, actually, yeah, so I can use black gloves

1032
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 1: or whatever color they come in. I don't need pink gloves.

1033
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: If we're gonna box, I'm in a box. And so yeah,

1034
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: It's just funny how men look at women when it

1035
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: comes to a physical, strenuous activity. And I'm just glad

1036
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: that you're out there changing that perception.

1037
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 3: Can you get any quick workout tips? What is your

1038
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 3: workout regimen like? And you are completely self disciplined. You

1039
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 3: don't have these expensive NFL trainers and coaches keeping me tesco.

1040
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 5: I am disciplined, but I do.

1041
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: I've been working out so two years ago you could

1042
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: follow her on Instagram follow Thelita.

1043
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 5: L I Ta Lida Lewis. So. I met her a

1044
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 5: couple of years ago and I was just inspired.

1045
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: I had never been trained by a woman before, and

1046
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: so she put me on a program and I immediately

1047
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: saw a difference. And I've been following that, like I said,

1048
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: the past two seasons. And I just sent her a

1049
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: text today because I had some you know, I did

1050
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 1: pretty well in our game on Saturday.

1051
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 5: I had a thirty.

1052
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: Yard catch for a touchdown, and I'm really proud. I

1053
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: had a seventy five yard kickoff return for a touchdown.

1054
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: So whereas I'm not necessarily in the gym with a

1055
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: trainer all the time, I do consult with Lida and

1056
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: then another trainer. He's a former NFL wide receiver. His

1057
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: name is Curtis Williams. You can find him on Instagram

1058
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: to Curtis Williams seventeen uh and so I'll do his

1059
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: classes sporadically. He had a speed class a couple of

1060
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: weeks ago, just kind of like touching base and just

1061
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: just trying to hone different things. But for me, you know,

1062
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in the I'm doing something physical five out

1063
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: of seven days a week.

1064
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 5: Work.

1065
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it takes.

1066
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 5: Work, work, I.

1067
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: Know, right.

1068
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 5: Nobody knows no one not the words, right.

1069
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: My base and friends are like, I know the words.

1070
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, well, you know, I.

1071
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 3: Read the lyrics and I still don't know the words.

1072
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 5: Somebody to give a little YouTube tutorial about that, that'd

1073
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 5: be great.

1074
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 3: Well, Adrian, where can people find you? I see, I

1075
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 3: know you're on Instagram and Twitter, your handles. People can

1076
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 3: find you and follow you and follow the Boston Renegades.

1077
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: Sure, follow me at Adrian the Ten so A D

1078
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: R I E N N E T H E one zero.

1079
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: My jersey numbers ten so Adrian the ten. That's my

1080
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter handles. That's pretty much you'll get everything

1081
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: from that. If you want to follow my team, Boston Renegades,

1082
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: we are on Instagram as at Boston Renegades and we're

1083
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: on Twitter as Go Renegades, g O Renegades.

1084
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 3: Well, you've been really inspirational. Thank you so much for

1085
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 3: coming on the podcast. I feel like you are exactly

1086
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:41,720
Speaker 3: what broun Ambition is all about. Honestly, I agree