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Speaker 1: But there's been a lot of talk. Colin, here's a

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Speaker 1: got They got beat a couple of times. And he

428
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Speaker 1: looked and said, we could go get those players if

429
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Speaker 1: we wanted. Let's go get them. Does Kirby look at

430
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Speaker 1: his team like that, I don't know if he does.

431
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Speaker 1: I'm saying this past year when he looked at the

432
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Speaker 1: way they played, and you look at the way Ohio

433
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Speaker 1: State plays, those don't look the same. And I wonder

434
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Speaker 1: if Kirby looks at it and says, we ought to

435
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Speaker 1: have we ought to have an insanely deep and talented

436
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Speaker 1: wide receiver room. Why we never had it here? Why

437
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 1: are we not getting elite offensive output now they are.

438
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about style. I'm talking about style, not just output.

439
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: And also, the sport's never gonna sit still, So this

440
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Speaker 1: has been a problem. The problem is once you get

441
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Speaker 1: to the mountaintop and things are rolling, there is a

442
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Speaker 1: propensity amongst some people, not all, to look and say, Wow,

443
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Speaker 1: what's going to stop us? Now that the sport never

444
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: sits still. So Georgia wins back to back national championships

445
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Speaker 1: and you think, oh man, and now Saban's probably going

446
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Speaker 1: to retire before too much longer. And even if he doesn't,

447
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: like we've pulled right up alongside them, and then Saban

448
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: does retiring, it's like, dude, there's no one standing in

449
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: our way. You feel that way right now. Georgia hadn't

450
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Speaker 1: had the hammer dropped on them with the NCAA, Like

451
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: nothing's fundamentally changed, it's just the sport never sits still.

452
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Speaker 1: You never take winning and you never take consistently being

453
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Speaker 1: at the top for granted, because history says what Saban

454
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Speaker 1: didn't Bama's an outlier, what Kirby's done at Georgia is

455
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 1: an outlier already. Like there should be some down years,

456
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Speaker 1: and trust me, you win the SEC. You did not

457
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Speaker 1: just have a down year like like by the by

458
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Speaker 1: the unattainable standard that we may have for Georgia. Yeah,

459
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Speaker 1: it was a down year. It wasn't a down year.

460
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Speaker 1: So it's just an inflection point. It's not a negative.

461
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Speaker 1: It's just there's some adjusting that has to be done there.

462
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Speaker 1: I had one more that I wanted to get to

463
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Speaker 1: and then we will will hit Cubic Jesse let's do

464
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Speaker 1: bold predictions another day. I'm also going to cough for

465
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Speaker 1: just a second. It's lovely. It's just it's it's money

466
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Speaker 1: podcasting and youtubing. Did we have that question about Dabbo

467
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Speaker 1: because it's basically the same as the Kirby question. So

468
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Speaker 1: I wanted to hit both of these today. Take a

469
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Speaker 1: little sip of tea while I'm at it. We're fighting

470
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Speaker 1: through it. So someone asked a similar question about Dabbo

471
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Speaker 1: and Clemson. Jalen from Greenville, South Carolina said, is it

472
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Speaker 1: just a fact that the has left Dabbo and Clemson behind?

473
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Speaker 1: Or should we keep up the should we keep up

474
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Speaker 1: the charade? His words, not mine, that Clemson is still

475
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Speaker 1: up there because they won a down conference this year

476
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Speaker 1: then got smoked by Texas. I've been careful on this, Jalen. Okay,

477
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 1: I've been very careful to not just you know, throw

478
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Speaker 1: a tick or tape parade because Clemson won the ACC.

479
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: Because you're right, it was kind of a mirage this year.

480
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Speaker 1: They went from eight and four last year to nine

481
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Speaker 1: and three this year. The regular season wasn't anything to

482
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Speaker 1: write home about. They could not scale their performance level.

483
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: They got blown out by Georgia, they got handled by Louisville,

484
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: they got beat at home by South Carolina, and then

485
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Speaker 1: they stumbled into Charlotte. They won it. Credit to them

486
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Speaker 1: for winning it, but that wasn't a great alleviator of

487
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Speaker 1: concern for me. So but it's important to note here

488
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Speaker 1: what Jalen said is has the sport passed Debo and

489
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Speaker 1: Clemson by? I don't view it that way to me.

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Speaker 1: Some times that is code for there's something fundamental about

491
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Speaker 1: the sport that you're incapable of doing. There's something the

492
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: sport requires now that you're incapable of doing. Like if

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Speaker 1: I'm a major league hitter and I get up into

494
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Speaker 1: my early forties and I can't time up a big

495
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: league fastball anymore, the sport has passed me by. Dabbo.

496
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: This is voluntary with him, like not using the portal,

497
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 1: there's no skill in that. You either decide to do

498
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: it or not. I know they've done it this cycle.

499
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: I'm just speaking in general terms. That's not the sport

500
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: passing him by unless it's voluntary. But there have been

501
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: two things here, Okay, so let me break him down

502
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: right quick. Number one's the portal. If the sport's passing

503
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: him by. On that front, it's been voluntary. It's been

504
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: because he's looked and said, we are capable of doing this,

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like doing it. And if that's passing

506
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Speaker 1: Hi by, that's passing him by. But the other part

507
00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: is staffing. This kind of gets overlooked. So Clemson used

508
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Speaker 1: to be very elite defensively and they are not anymore,

509
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: and they were not this year, and that was kind

510
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: of the dirty secret of the program. And it kind

511
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: of goes back to twenty twenty one. After that season,

512
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: Brent Vinnables goes on He's going to Oklahoma, a big

513
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: piece that was leaving Clemson, and there was a lot

514
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: of talk around the program about whether they were going

515
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: to conduct a national search. Because this is Clemson, man,

516
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: that's a very in demand job. They could get a

517
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: lot of attention from across the country the top defensive minds.

518
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: So Dabo starts talking and he starts talking about how

519
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: I may want to just promote from within and not

520
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: even do a national search, which is what they ended

521
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Speaker 1: up doing. I'm about to play you some sound in

522
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Speaker 1: a second. This is what they ended up doing. I

523
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: had a problem with it at the time. We talked

524
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: about it on the show at the time. And the

525
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: reason I'm about to play this four year is because

526
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: this is from three years ago when he was about

527
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: to promote Wes Goodwin, who had not been coordinator. He

528
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: was in house, promoted him to defensive coordinator. It did

529
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: not work. Three years later they just let him go.

530
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Speaker 1: But it's indicative of a bigger way of thinking. So

531
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Speaker 1: three years ago we're talking on the show. It's back

532
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Speaker 1: at our old studio. If you've never seen it, get ready,

533
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: now is the time. This is what I had to

534
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Speaker 1: say at that point, and the same message still rings true.

535
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: Now let's roll it. What he in his mind has

536
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: to reason is does he want to go internal and

537
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: promote from with them or does he think it's time

538
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,479
Speaker 1: for new blood. You can look at Wes Goodwin and

539
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: he's an off field analyst for you. You could promote him

540
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: if you wanted to the defensive coordinator. Some people think

541
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: that's the direction he'll go. But let me tell you

542
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: what else people think, and I would agree with this.

543
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: The program has been stale. It is not a program

544
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: that feels like it's got a lot of fresh water

545
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: flowing into it. You gotta be careful. You gotta be careful.

546
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: Nick Saban's been very good to guard against this. Stagnation

547
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: is not a good thing for any kind of program,

548
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: any kind of organization. You need new ideas. You don't

549
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: need new principles, you don't need new values, those are mainstays,

550
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: but new ideas, new approaches, tinkering with doing it this way,

551
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Speaker 1: or understanding that there's evolution happening out there and we

552
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: got to stay one step ahead of it or we'll

553
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: be behind it. How do you weigh that you got

554
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: the Clemson way of doing things. Sure, you've built your

555
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: organization so that you can promote from within. But then

556
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: over on the other side, you're asking yourself. But if

557
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: we do have that stagnation problem, if we are a

558
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: little stale, if we're in a bubble here in our

559
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: own right, and there's a lot going on out there

560
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: that we're just not aware of, and there's some programs

561
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: that are getting an edge on us that we're not

562
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: aware of. Well, the only way really maybe to solve

563
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: that is for me to bring some new blood in here. Oh,

564
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: we were so young, so this is not about legacy.

565
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: The one thing I saw in the live chat while

566
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: we were playing that soot is not about legacy at all.

567
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: Dabo could never win another game. You want best of

568
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: all time. Dabo could never win another game at Clemson,

569
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Speaker 1: and he would be an instant Hall of Famer icon

570
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: face on like an expanded Rushmore of college football type figure.

571
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: To me, I say expanded because I don't believe we

572
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: should just have four faces on college Football's Rushmore. So

573
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm going like ten deep, I'm put in Dabo's face

574
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: on there if he never wins another game. Strictly about

575
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 1: the future, all we're talking about here is the future

576
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: that dude is done everything you need to be a

577
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: legend ten times over. But I am fascinating, as I

578
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: have been for a few years now at whether there

579
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: is a stubbornness and there is an imprisonment based on

580
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: the idea that we're using the same formula that won

581
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: us those titles back in the twenty teens. And I

582
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: just wonder if the formula doesn't work as much anymore, because,

583
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: like we were talking about with Kirby and Georgia, the

584
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Speaker 1: sport never sits still, and that means the blueprint that

585
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: may work in twenty sixteen may not work so well

586
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four and beyond. Now they're using the

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590
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Speaker 1: signs there, just maybe need to be a few more

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645
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Speaker 1: New York, Jesse. Do we have cubic? We did Okay, well,

646
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Speaker 1: bring him on in. I heard him knocking on the door.

647
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: Let's bring him on in. As I take a sip

648
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: of tea. Hey, when you have vocal problems there in Homewood, Alabama,

649
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 1: what is your beverage of choice? Sir?

650
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: Oh, it's not a beverage. It's easily wild Berry. It's

651
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 2: the way to go. Always going to get the throat

652
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: cleared up, take any kind of gargling out of it.

653
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: Gonna smooth things over, absolutely no problem. Now, if this

654
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: was maybe like some sort of a headache you were

655
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: dealing with, I would tell you go cookies and cream

656
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: probably the way that you would want to work right there.

657
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 2: So and if you felt good on a regular day,

658
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 2: just go og Strawberry with the Bowl special edition right there.

659
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: That's all the advice I have for you to.

660
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: You know, I'll actually let you eat him on this show.

661
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 1: Do whatever you want to. It's the most inside joke

662
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: that I'll ever tell on the show. Okay, you have,

663
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: you've done a couple of Bowl games, and you're going

664
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: to do the Orange Bowl. In fact, you're coming down

665
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: here inexplicably flying into Miami to stay in Fort Lauderdale.

666
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: I'm just a South Florida rookie of rookie mistakes. But

667
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: you've done a lot of bowl games now. You had

668
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 1: a bowl game that was like totally off the radar

669
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: with North Texas the other day, and I was listening

670
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: to you. Que it up. You were talking about the

671
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: quarterback situation. You were talking about depth situation. So if

672
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: I told you, like it's your final it's a public

673
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: speaking course, in a minute or less, explain to people

674
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: how warped in sideways that bowl game was from the

675
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: outset you would say what.

676
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: I would say. Each team probably had seven to eight

677
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: starters gone in the transfer portal, including Chandler Moore, starting

678
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: quarterback at North Texas who threw for like thirty two

679
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: hundred yards had an amazing season. His replacement, Drew Mestemaker,

680
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: was the starting quarterback. He had not started a game

681
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 2: anywhere since his ninth grade year in high school at quarterback,

682
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 2: played a little bit of safety in high school, had

683
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: a transfer rim before his senior year, so he didn't go. Also,

684
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: the original starting center was hurt after the third series

685
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: of the season. Freshman center comes in for North Texas,

686
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: plays great gets in il deals. He's gone original backup center,

687
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 2: then hits the portal at the end of the season,

688
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: has nowhere to go, so he comes back. He starts

689
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 2: at center and has not played a snap for North

690
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: Texas the entire season. So that, on top of two

691
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: teams from Texas going at it in the first respondible

692
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: on SMU's campus, what else could you ask for?

693
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, people in the chat thinking I'm hating on Fort Lauderdale. Guys,

694
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: I'm staying in Fort Lauderdale. I'm saying, I flew into

695
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: Fort Lauderdale and our guy here is flying into Miami,

696
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: which means you basically have to have a passport to

697
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: get here from there.

698
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 2: Pretty crazy move, Pretty crazy move. Okay, so this was

699
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: a last minute trip. I was asked to do this

700
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 2: by Series XM a couple of days ago, so I agreed,

701
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: of course to do it, and had to tell my

702
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 2: wife I was going to do it. She thought the

703
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: season was over. So I tried to compress this thing

704
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 2: as much as humanly possible. So I caught a couple

705
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: of direct flights, which I'm probably gonna end up paying for.

706
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: On Friday, trying to get back. You and I might

707
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: be driving back. We might drive the whole state of

708
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Speaker 2: Florida on Friday. By the way, so I'm the only

709
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: direg flight I had was into Miami. I do have

710
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: a morning show that I also have to do. I

711
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: couldn't just skip that. So this was the only way

712
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 2: that it works was to go into Miami.

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Speaker 1: I apologize, Yeah, you're forgiving I guess I don't know.

714
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Speaker 1: I don't care. Do whatever you want to do.

715
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 2: So, oh, it's dumb. It's just the only way that

716
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: I could make it work. But yes, our hotel is

717
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 2: what five minutes from the Waterdale airport, so yeah, it's ridiculous.

718
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, at most five minutes. Notre Dame Penn State. My

719
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: mind on this game very simplistic, and I'm either going

720
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: to be really right or really wrong. I look at

721
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: the formula for Notre Dame and they've been so great

722
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: at taking the ball away, and history has told me

723
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: that if a team is thriving off of that principle,

724
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: there's just one week where it doesn't show up and

725
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: maybe even it inverts itself. And if that happens, Penn

726
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 1: State's good, plenty, good enough to win this game. However,

727
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm thinking the same thing against Georgia. There's that little

728
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: condensed period right there into first half, beginning of second half,

729
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: like a minute minute and a half of game time.

730
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: And I had a Georgia buddy texting me saying, if

731
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: you were to ignore that part of the game, we won. Well, buddy,

732
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: that's not the way the sport works. And there could

733
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Speaker 1: be the same little chunk of time against Penn State.

734
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: I am just blindly rolling the dice. It could get

735
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: me cooked, but I'm blindly rolling the dice. Penn State

736
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: finds a way here. Where is your head been on

737
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: this one?

738
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Speaker 2: I just love this Notre Dame football team. My biggest

739
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: concern with Notre Dame is how beat up they are.

740
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 2: I was on that sideline doing radio watch Savier Wats

741
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: come out of the game. It looked like a separated shoulder.

742
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: He wasn't moving that arm when he came off. Saw

743
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 2: Howard Cross with a giant looked like an air cast

744
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: on his ankle. He gets digged up during the game,

745
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 2: apparently a cramp, but I don't know if those were related.

746
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: How that's going to look. We know that you're losing

747
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 2: Riley Mills before last game. He's not going to be back.

748
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: Jeremiah misses what almost a half of this football game.

749
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: For this Notre Dame team, there's too many guys that

750
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 2: are in your best tied end by the way, probably

751
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: going to be gone. So I'm just overly concerned about

752
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 2: how beat up this Notre Dame football team might be. However,

753
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: there are not many teams in the country that play

754
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 2: football together as one, whose coordinators want to do what

755
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: they can to help the other side of the ball,

756
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: help special teams, help the team go find a way

757
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: to win, and not just rack up their own stats.

758
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 2: I think Riley Leonard is the ultimate gamer. I think

759
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 2: he'll do more of that for those playmakers. Listen, Josh.

760
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 2: He makes plays where most people look for an eighty

761
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: yard pass or a sixty yard pass. He'll manipulate the pocket,

762
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: move a little bit, complete a four yard pass, and

763
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: avoid negative plays, avoid catastrophy plays. Drew Holler's done a

764
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: great job of that this postseason as well. The other

765
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 2: thing would be, what's your answer for Tyler Warren Because

766
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 2: as well as this team covers, even when he's covered,

767
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: he's open, so it doesn't really matter. But I think

768
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 2: the Irises run defense with the active group of linebackers

769
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 2: with a defensive line that really came through after missing

770
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: Riley bluells last week, and linebackers that can come down,

771
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 2: play some defensive and move back up off the ball.

772
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 2: I think they slow this game down enough. And special

773
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: teams was great for Notre Dame last week, and I

774
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 2: have to be good for him again this week. Lower

775
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 2: scoring game. Take the under and I'll take Notre Dame. Yeah.

776
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: The other thing that I've had pointed out to me

777
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: a number of times it's a valid point, is you

778
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 1: tend to forget the totality of injury with teams. Notre

779
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: Dame included here, Like they had corners way earlier in

780
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 1: the year, ago down, they had o lineman way earlier

781
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: in the year, go down, and like once you see

782
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: them play a couple of games without them, your mind

783
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: just recalibrates and they just become Notre Dame again. But

784
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: if you look at that you were just talking about this,

785
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: if you look at a sheet and you look at

786
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: all those injuries stacked up, I can remember two or

787
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: three different times this year seeing an injury headline pop

788
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 1: up on Sunday or Monday and thinking that just put

789
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 1: a ceiling on them, Like whatever their potential was that's

790
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: probably the point that brings them down beneath that of

791
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: a championship contender. Maybe they could contend for a playoff spot,

792
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 1: but not get in there and then do any damage.

793
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: And yet here they are, and look, one of these

794
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: teams by default is going to play for a national championship.

795
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: We were talking about on the show earlier. If I

796
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Speaker 1: were to tell you preseason, like either of these head

797
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: coaches is going to be four quarters away from a

798
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: national championship, Unlike Sark and unlike Ryan Day, who everyone

799
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: kind of thinks will get multiple shots at it. Most

800
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: people aren't of the opinion that Freeman and or or

801
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: Franklin they're just gonna have multiple shots at winning a

802
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: title whose reputation stands to benefit drastically more, because I

803
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's James Franklin. But I think

804
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 1: this like the stock if you will, of Marcus Freeman,

805
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: just goes through the roof because of how they won

806
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: the Georgia game, how they will have won this game

807
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: if they do, and also the injuries he's dealt with.

808
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 2: Well, and then some of the coaching moves also, I

809
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: mean running the punt team off or running your offense

810
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: punt team off and your offense back on getting the

811
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: false star. I mean, just some of the some of

812
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: the most intelligent football players that you're gonna see, stealing possessions,

813
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 2: stealing points, the strip, sack fumble, then getting the ball

814
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: in the end zone late and a half back to

815
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: the injuries really quick. See, we had a guy tweeted

816
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 2: into our show this morning, mckelroy nine and he's like, well,

817
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: I'm putting an asterisk next to that one because no

818
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: Carson Beck for George, So I don't know if I

819
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 2: can really count it. And I'm just thinking to myself, buddy,

820
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: their best offensive player was out for at least a half,

821
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: Their best defensive player left the game, their next best

822
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 2: defensive player didn't play in the game. Their best tight

823
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: end left the game. They lost their two best tackles

824
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: before the season, their best corner went down the first

825
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: third of the season. Like what are we talking about here?

826
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: Like this can't be a real statement. And then also

827
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 2: I did see when I was watching the offensive lineman

828
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: warm up, because you know, Notre Dame puts the names

829
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: on the jerseys for the playoffs. I saw Jaggie Saw

830
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 2: out there and I'm like, oh, hold on a second.

831
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: They must be like doing something nice getting him, you know,

832
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: let him come out here and dress out, and then

833
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: he's ripping like he's going and apparently he was available.

834
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: So maybe keep your eye on that one. To be

835
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 2: a little benefit upfront for the Notre Dame offense, give

836
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: them a little extra ump when they need it. But

837
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: as far as the head coaches go, this is nothing

838
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: against James Franklin being around Marcus Freeman for the first time.

839
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 2: I spoke to him at media Day. I talked to

840
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: him before the game, interviewed him at halftime, interviewed him postgame.

841
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: Watching his demeanor during the game. Marcus Freeman is a

842
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: freaking dude. Like that's all I know what to say.

843
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,959
Speaker 2: His stock in my brain has just skyrocketed being able

844
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 2: to be around and watch him operate, watch how his

845
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: team operates, watch how his team carries himself. Josh, you

846
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: do love this. We're sitting there in media day and

847
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 2: you could just go up to Jeremiah Love or Riley

848
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: Leonard at their podium and just have a conversation. There's

849
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: maybe two people at the most trying to talk to

850
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: these guys, and then here comes gunn to Stockton, and

851
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 2: it's a flock of like seventy people who all of

852
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 2: a sudden want to go up and talking. I'm just thinking, man,

853
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 2: he's going to use that and put this on this

854
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: team as how disrespected they are, and they're going to

855
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: go out and play with an edge, he continued to heart,

856
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: being aggressive, playing like they're behind, attacking, attacking, attacking, and

857
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: they don't do that, and just throwing the ball eighty

858
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: times or throwing the ball down the field every time.

859
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 2: They do that in very calculated ways. So I agree

860
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 2: with you that James Franklin could benefit more from this

861
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 2: win advancing to a national championship game. Nothing against James.

862
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 2: If I'm putting my money on one or the other,

863
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: it's Marcus Freeman.

864
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: All right. So normally, well sometimes when I'll break a

865
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: game down on the show, we'll have like double digit spread.

866
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: So if I'm in the regular season and Ohio State's

867
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: playing someone in Ohio State's favored by sixteen and a half,

868
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: I won't bother picking the outright winner. Obviously, Ohio State

869
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 1: minus double digits makes sense as the money line favorite.

870
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: But I'll make a case of if it were to happen,

871
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: how would it happen, How would the upset happen? Man,

872
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: this line's five and a half, which is normally a

873
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: very competitive line in your mind. I have felt this

874
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: way about Texas all week. I have felt like you

875
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: have to take about three or four Jinga blocks and

876
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: stack them on top of each other. Like these things.

877
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: Multiple things have to go right for you to compete

878
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: with and then and then outright beat Ohio State. But

879
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: the one that I cannot get past, and the one

880
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: I got the biggest question about, is I've seen Texas

881
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: able to run the ball and not able to run

882
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: the ball. In the playoff, they ran the ball to

883
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: the tune of nearly three hundred against Clemson. No problem

884
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: in the end, competitive game, but they end up winning it.

885
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: They hang thirty eight. I think they got badly out

886
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: rushed against Arizona State. What that did was it discombobulated

887
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: them so much to the point where Arizona State is

888
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: a bad pressure team. Defensively, they did not affect the

889
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: quarterback much all year. They had three sacks, eight tackles

890
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: for loss, and they were in the one twenties in

891
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: those categories during the season. Ohio State's top ten in

892
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: both of those metrics. I cannot find it in my

893
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: heart to trust Texas to run the ball effectively enough

894
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: to keep that third long, third and eight te off pressure,

895
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: the quarterback type variable out of the game. And that's

896
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: why I'm having a really hard time not laying those

897
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: points with Ohio State. Where are you at?

898
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 2: I'm with you for the most part. I've been wrong

899
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 2: on Ohio State for the majority of this playoff. But

900
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: there are some things about this game that are a

901
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: little bit more intriguing than I think some people really

902
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 2: either want to talk about or know to talk about. One.

903
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 2: Texas defense not as much of a matchup defense as

904
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: what they faced prior. They're going to play back a

905
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 2: little bit more and try to keep everything in front.

906
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 2: To a certain extent, I think they've given up. We

907
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: talked about on the show this morning. I think six

908
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 2: plays of twenty yards or more through the air this

909
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: season they don't allow over the top. That could help

910
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 2: you sort of mitigate the damage that Jeremiah Smith is

911
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 2: going to bring to this game. But then you see

912
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: what Chips do in last game, moving him around, forcing

913
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: him the football. It didn't have to be sixty yards

914
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 2: down the field. That's a massive concern, no matter who

915
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: you are. The other part of this for the Texas defense,

916
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: first is when Arizona State really got going, Josh, it

917
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 2: wasn't east and west, it was between the tackles, which

918
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 2: has felt like that was an impenetrable part of this

919
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 2: Texas defense. They just turned to start running duo and Scataboo,

920
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: who is amazing with his vision and his patients. I

921
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: know we look at him as this bowling ball, but

922
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: he would kind of sit there and wait and wait

923
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 2: and wait. Linebacker play over the top. All of a

924
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,479
Speaker 2: sudden he'd cut back and he's gone for fourteen yards

925
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 2: or eight yards or seven yards. So Texas misplayed the run.

926
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 2: I don't think Ohio State is going to attempt to

927
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: run the football that way. That could benefit Anthony Hill

928
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 2: junior at linebacker, Colin Simmons, Baron Surreal tray more over

929
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: on the edge if Ohio State tries to live east

930
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 2: and west, because we've now seen the team can have

931
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: success going right at them, I also think that Texas

932
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 2: can find ways to get to the quarterback and be successful.

933
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 2: The issue there is Chip has not asked Will Howard

934
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 2: to sit in the pocket for very long, so if

935
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 2: Chip continues to what I call split the defense the

936
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 2: way that he's been masterful with this postseason, and that

937
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: is using that misdirection to get the flow going one way.

938
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 2: You saw the two pictures that I posted on Twitter.

939
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 2: These are two guys off tackle without a defender fifteen

940
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 2: yards either direction of them. If Chip stays in his

941
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: bag that way, it's going to be a problem for anybody.

942
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: And if Texas physically isn't up to this challenge against

943
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: the Ohio State offensive line, that honestly still is just

944
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 2: they're not great. They've played better, still not great. Right

945
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 2: side didn't even play good last week, but they were

946
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: able to get away with it because the ball was

947
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 2: gone so quickly. And then on offense, it's got to

948
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: be that same test that Chip Kelly's using the misdirection.

949
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 2: Sark's got to be on point, So not the direct

950
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 2: runs making them go, but what they do off of

951
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 2: the runs, because that Ohio State defense is flowing fast

952
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 2: right now, So throwbacks, screens the opposite direction into rounds,

953
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 2: those are the things I think Texas may be able

954
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: to hurt Ohio State with. If they ask Queen you

955
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 2: Weres to sit in the pocket for seven or eight seconds.

956
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: It ain't gonna get done because Ohio State's going to

957
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 2: get home. Yeah.

958
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: The other thing I just laugh at this is in

959
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: the previous generation BCS especially, but even in the four

960
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: team era, you just really couldn't afford like a disaster

961
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: type loss late in the year or early in the

962
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: year if you lose to NIU and yet we could

963
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: have Notre Dame lose to NIU at home and win

964
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: a title same year, we'd have Ohio State suffer their

965
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: second loss just humiliating fashion to end the season as

966
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: Michigan and win the thing. Now you play based on

967
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: the constructs of whatever the postseason gives you. But it's

968
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: just so wild how number one that changes the sport

969
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: because as devastating as a loss is, you're not out

970
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 1: of it anymore, which some people think is some people

971
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: think it's bad. But then the other thing is I

972
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: wonder man, moving forward, if people don't take a look

973
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: at this year and think to themselves, yes, we want

974
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: to win every game, but we are going to disproportionately

975
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: value peaking at the right time, and if we lose

976
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: early whatever, we can probably lose twice and not be

977
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: out of it. We want to do what Ohio State did.

978
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: We want to do what Notre Dame did, and if

979
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: it requires us to maybe be vulnerable early on, so

980
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: be it. No one again, I understand you don't. Folks

981
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: don't need to yell at their phone. I'm not saying

982
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: anyone's comfortable taking l I'm saying they don't view taking

983
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: in l as the end of the world. That's not

984
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: the way college football used to feel. It kind of

985
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: is the way it feels now. You can have your

986
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 1: opinion on it. It just kind of is funny that

987
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: that is what it is now. We're never going to

988
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: know this.

989
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,959
Speaker 2: But let's say a team Mike Ohio State being able

990
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 2: to turn that defensive front loose, being able to find

991
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 2: different ways to get Jeremiah Smith the football, adding different

992
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 2: things from a motion shift formation standpoint in the playoffs,

993
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: maybe trusting your quarterback to do a little bit more

994
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. Like how how are teams going to

995
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 2: try and offset a little bit of that before they

996
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 2: get to this postseason? Because when you were at Ohio

997
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 2: State spot late in the year, could you even afford

998
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: to play that game against Michigan You ended up losing

999
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 2: and getting in anyway. But I don't think it was

1000
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: a given that people looked at that game and said, well,

1001
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 2: if they dropped this game specifically, if it's ugly, they're

1002
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 2: definitely in. So I don't know. I do think that

1003
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 2: we you and I both talked to coaches that said,

1004
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: we're going to play younger guys earlier, We're gonna play

1005
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 2: more guys at different positions. We're going to cross trained

1006
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: guys to be able to play safety and nickel and corner.

1007
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 2: We're gonna cross trained guys to play all three linebacker

1008
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 2: spots or play d ND and nickel, whatever it is.

1009
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: We knew that was coming, but strategically might be the

1010
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: more interesting part of what you're talking about and maybe

1011
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 2: what you're attempting to hold back that you want to

1012
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: try to unleash. Once you get to that postseason, we're

1013
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 2: already having stupid conversations like it's not as good to

1014
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 2: get a by because those teams lost. Like, in no

1015
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 2: world is it good to not be rested up and

1016
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 2: go play a football team. It just isn't. Not at

1017
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 2: that point in the year, with depth what it was

1018
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 2: across college football, it's not a real thing. But people

1019
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 2: have convinced themselves of that. Now, so what are we

1020
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 2: going to have teams tanking games down at the end

1021
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 2: of the season or taking their conference championship games so

1022
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 2: they don't have a buy. It's not a real thing.

1023
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 2: But the conversations already shifting.

1024
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: I will say when I was in Columbus in the spring, Ohio,

1025
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: not Georgia, that staff Ryan Day and his staff were

1026
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 1: as focused on the concept of loading and load management

1027
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call that to make sure they're

1028
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: good in December as any staff I talk to. And

1029
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: then all these months later, here they are and they

1030
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: look like like twenty nineteen LSU buzz sawing. What is

1031
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: happening over on Cube show? Right now.

1032
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: We are doing playoff previews and playoff recaps. So tomorrow

1033
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 2: we'll drop another episode previewing this weekend's games. Just recapped

1034
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 2: them on Sunday, and then next week, well Sunday we'll

1035
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 2: recap the semi finals, and then next Thursday we will

1036
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 2: recap or we'll preview the championship game going into that

1037
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 2: one and then recap it the day after it takes place.

1038
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 2: So really focused in on the playoffs right now. Just

1039
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 2: watching the tape of those games. Let you know what

1040
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 2: we saw in trying to deliver them back as quickly

1041
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: as we can, and.

1042
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: In between you will see me, like as early as tomorrow.

1043
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: So what a great day it is for us. All

1044
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: Cube show over on YouTube, like same platform you're on

1045
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: right now. If you're watching, that's where you can go

1046
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: find it, sir. I appreciate it. I can't see this often,

1047
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: but I look forward to seeing you soon.

1048
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 2: Oh and tell your special someone we may have a

1049
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 2: couple boxes of pop targets.

1050
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: From down all right. Oh, well, there you go, and

1051
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: you know they're tuned in as well. All right, that's

1052
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 1: called cublic. He's out of here. He's headed down here

1053
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: to much warmer climbs as I'm out of here to

1054
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: basically go to CVS Pharmacy and load myself up for

1055
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 1: the next two or three days. Appreciate you guys so much.

1056
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate our staff here in Fort Lauderdale and our

1057
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: staff back in Nashville for making this possible. I appreciate

1058
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: this generic cup of tea for making the show possible.

1059
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: My voice was questionable throughout the day. It upgraded to probable,

1060
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: but I never felt great about it. What we made

1061
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: it so appreciate you guys. Make sure you subscribe to

1062
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: the channel and the pod if you haven't already. We

1063
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