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Speaker 5: I am a chuk.

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Speaker 3: You what's going down? Before round?

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Speaker 2: This coffee is disgusting.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're trying to okay, maybe we won't name the

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Speaker 2: No, it's textbook book cafe in a green. I can

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Speaker 2: also see your oat milk separating and these they're not

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Speaker 1: Oat planet separates and so planet oah, yes, and so

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Speaker 6: Chabani is really bannid. The girls know it.

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Speaker 2: I was saying before maybe I would switch to getting

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Speaker 6: Okay, but not just a rewards program. I want a punch.

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Speaker 2: Card, but then you have to carry a punch card.

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Speaker 2: Because where where can you not tap? In twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Three famously does not take Apple pay Yeah.

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Speaker 1: a million year spe customer, let me take your popcorn away, Diva. Also,

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Speaker 1: the show where we give yesterday's pop culture today's takes

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Speaker 1: Imra's Domina.

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Speaker 6: And I'm fran Torado and we are not just coffee snobs.

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Speaker 6: We also go to the Theata.

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Speaker 2: which I think you've already seen. I have seen Bottoms.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean for anyone who doesn't know. Bottoms

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Revenge and it is. It's a total fantasy, but it

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Speaker 1: They were all my like my animaniacs like cartoons.

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Speaker 2: I mean he just acts.

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Speaker 2: He's like a baby. He's a big baby.

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Speaker 2: Slash like a Virgin, there's a couple of really good

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Speaker 2: But it's still doing really well despite that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Io and Rachel are already like they've

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Speaker 1: wish they could promote it. I want more for them.

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Speaker 1: But once it goes to streaming, I'm sure it'll have

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Speaker 2: We got to get it to streaming quick because people

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Speaker 6: So do you know what I watched last night?

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Speaker 2: What I watched The Flash?

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Speaker 6: Oh, friends, I told you I was gonna see it.

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Speaker 6: Look flipped We flipped it on we.

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Speaker 1: Were like, oh, this is available on Max, Now why

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Speaker 2: None of those words are in the Bible.

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Speaker 1: depth because you haven't seen it, Slash, you're never going

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Speaker 2: Maybe I should try to kill a baby. I'm it's

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Speaker 2: gotta be me, It's got to be I'm the Witcher.

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Speaker 1: You're officially a gamer, and you're gonna have to play

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Speaker 2: but I'm definitely interested. Wink wink. Do we want to

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Speaker 2: I keep seeing people, you know, filling up their backpacks

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Speaker 2: I don't know anyone who's still in school, but I

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Speaker 2: time to have a discussion with Greta titleman, incredible comedian, actress,

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Speaker 2: extraordince Jordanaire. And when we asked her what she wanted

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Speaker 2: to talk about, her response was.

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Speaker 6: Gel pens, gel pens.

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Speaker 1: And I think it made a lot of sense because

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Speaker 1: she herself has a podcast that's kind of about elementary

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Speaker 1: school high school trauma.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, who knows what what regreta is gonna

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Speaker 2: have to say about gel pens. But you know, break

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Speaker 2: out your you know, bick purple, sparkly gel.

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Speaker 6: Pen or whatever, your G two seven.

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Speaker 2: Get ready to dot your eyes with little hearts and yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's back to school time.

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Speaker 4: Think about gel pens first starters. They're a status symbol. Okay,

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Speaker 4: Like if you have gel pens, if you have a

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Speaker 4: complete pack of gel pens in your trapper keeper, that's

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Speaker 4: like the full set, every color, intact, you have your

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Speaker 4: shit together, you are an elite student. And that was

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Speaker 4: never me, Like, that was never ever me. I had

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Speaker 4: a pack of gel pens. But see the reason why

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Speaker 4: I wanted to talk about them today is I have

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Speaker 4: gelpen envy. I'm a lefty, so like the gel pen

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Speaker 4: is kind of my biggest it's kind of my biggest challenge,

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Speaker 4: one might say, in the world of pen because it

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Speaker 4: just is gloopy, gloppy all over the page when I

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Speaker 4: write with it.

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Speaker 2: You know, So what I'm hearing is gel pens are

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Speaker 2: what introduced you to the idea of class consciousness, right,

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Speaker 2: And also gel pens are ablest.

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Speaker 1: Ablest, got it, got it, got it, got it? Okay, okay, okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: now we've said that, we have we have said that,

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Speaker 1: we have said we have said that, and people are

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Speaker 1: saying that.

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Speaker 6: Well, I don't. I don't want to speak on your experience.

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Speaker 6: I want it to be your own.

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Speaker 1: But because I am a rightie and I I feel

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Speaker 1: like I love pen culture and have always loved pen culture,

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Speaker 1: I'm like pretty dedicated to the G two O seven

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Speaker 1: in like brown or blue?

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Speaker 2: Was that? I mean you say that like we're supposed

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Speaker 2: to know what that means?

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Speaker 4: Can you explaind G two O seven I believe?

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Speaker 3: Is that a big pen?

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Speaker 1: No, it is a pot it's a pilot pilot pen. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I know her, and I know seven is the thickness

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Speaker 1: because the point two and the point five are like

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Speaker 1: to thin.

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Speaker 6: The point seven is right where you need it.

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Speaker 4: So I'm addicted to the point fives.

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Speaker 6: Oh say that always that?

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Speaker 1: Okay, we're getting a little we're getting a little, a

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Speaker 1: little TikTok here.

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Speaker 4: It's good for me because of my left handedness. And

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Speaker 4: then okay, really I obviously love a pen.

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Speaker 6: Pen. Wait what brand is that?

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Speaker 3: I've never heard it's honey, but it's made in Japan.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Interesting. So wait, so has being left handed been

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Speaker 2: a challenge for you?

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the deal.

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Speaker 4: Let me just show you some pens that are absolute

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Speaker 4: no goes for me. This medium z grip, whatever the

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Speaker 4: fuck brand, this is the demonics, okay, because what it's

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Speaker 4: first of all, trying to force me into a hand

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Speaker 4: structure that, honey, it's that's not what my hand does.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So do you just keep it on hand to

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Speaker 2: torture yourself with.

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Speaker 4: I fucked up and I just grabbed a pen willy

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Speaker 4: nilly from my partner husband's.

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Speaker 6: Penjar oh betrayal.

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Speaker 4: And this is what I grabbed, and I immediately started

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Speaker 4: writing with it, and I went yucky, yuck.

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Speaker 3: I just it's it's thick.

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Speaker 4: And it's bad, and it wants it wants me to

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Speaker 4: get the sentence all over my hand, you know. So then,

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Speaker 4: of course, in elementary school, I always wanted.

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Speaker 3: To be bubble letter girly.

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Speaker 4: I always wanted to be pretty handwriting girly.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to.

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Speaker 4: Be cursive, gorgeousity beautiful. But kirstp also kind of fucked

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Speaker 4: me because I just dragged it across the page, and

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Speaker 4: it was all blurred, so I had to correct and

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Speaker 4: now I write in all caps.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, that is a choice.

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Speaker 6: Do you all like exclusively?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Like, I will show you a page of my journal.

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Speaker 3: It looks like I'm screaming.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and we're going to screenshot so that we can

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Speaker 2: see God.

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Speaker 4: Like, I hope it all works out for me today.

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Speaker 2: Your journal, looking at it is very loud. I really

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Speaker 2: like that you write in all caps. I write and

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Speaker 2: all you know, you know the s that kind of

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Speaker 2: looks like a like a sword, you know what I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about. That that's how I write. That's Wait, this

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Speaker 2: s every every letter I found a way.

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Speaker 3: Are we talking about this famous doodle s?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Of course this s. Wait, we're gonna have to screenshot

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Speaker 1: that at some point. Yeah, okay. I I also was like,

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Speaker 1: like hearts dotting my eyes kind of like a girly penmanship.

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Speaker 2: I you were a fag.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I was a fag.

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Speaker 1: The girls are not being taught cursive anymore, right, is

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Speaker 1: that has been eradicated.

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Speaker 6: I think it's been eradicated.

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Speaker 2: And I said, don't say gay, don't write Yes the.

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Speaker 1: Gate way, that's what I'm So they're not wrong handwriting. Yes,

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Speaker 1: cursive is gay handwriting.

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Speaker 6: It is groomed.

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Speaker 1: It is like the grooming of handwriting. And I and

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Speaker 1: I feel like, Okay, this is what we need to talk.

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Speaker 2: We've got to stop talking about this podcast that they're

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Speaker 2: gonna they're gonna find it once.

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Speaker 1: One day someone is actually going to listen to this

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Speaker 1: podcast and it will be clipped out and put on

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Speaker 1: pink news dot com.

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Speaker 2: Yeah news is not who we need to worry about.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, no, Okay.

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Speaker 1: So I was like on the cusp of like handwriting

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Speaker 1: still being taught in schools, but we were taught like

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Speaker 1: normal writing first. And I really envy your architectural handwriting style, Greta,

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Speaker 1: because like I my handwriting is like very fucked up

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Speaker 1: now because it's like half cursive, half normal and I

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Speaker 1: do upper case letters in the middle of words.

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Speaker 6: I love that because yeah.

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Speaker 1: And it's just like how I don't know how my brain,

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Speaker 1: I honestly should turn like my very bizarre, very murdery

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Speaker 1: handwriting into like a typeface or something, because that makes

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Speaker 1: no sense. It's like, why are the a's capital here

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Speaker 1: but they're not capital here? Like what are the SA's doing?

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Speaker 1: Why do you still do the cursive R, even though

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Speaker 1: the cursive R is the worst cursive letter in the

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Speaker 1: cursive alphabet.

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Speaker 2: So you've got some chicken scratch tendencies. I do as well.

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Speaker 2: I also have some handwriting related trauma because I grew

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Speaker 2: up not holding my pen right way. I so I

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Speaker 2: hold it between these two fingers and instead of you

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Speaker 2: know the correct way, like this is the right way,

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Speaker 2: you know it resting on your thumb, but I always

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Speaker 2: held it between my second and middle finger, and well,

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Speaker 2: we are, but I was. I was persecuted for it

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Speaker 2: by various teachers in elementary school who said, even though

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Speaker 2: my handwriting was fine, because I didn't hold the pen right,

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Speaker 2: they would give me lower grades for it are because

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't conform, because I wouldn't conform to their standards.

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Speaker 4: Do you remember I don't think that they do this

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Speaker 4: anywhere either, But do you remember the grip trainers that

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Speaker 4: they would put on your.

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Speaker 6: H's Literally it's it's a waste.

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Speaker 2: It's not like it's like when you would get chopsticks

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Speaker 2: that when you didn't know how to use them and

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Speaker 2: they would like reb a band. The thing was it

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 4: It was like they put it on the end of

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Speaker 4: your pencil, and it was kind of like a racer material,

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Speaker 4: like gushy, and it would teach I know, it would

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Speaker 4: like teach you how to hold your pen.

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Speaker 6: But it was fucked up.

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Speaker 4: It was so hard to get it was impossible.

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Speaker 2: It's like footbinding.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 4: It's footbinding, impossible, possible, and it's painful.

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Speaker 6: There's actually no one who's wrong.

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Speaker 2: What are we doing to the children?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Now I feel like the kids aren't getting tortured anymore.

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Speaker 4: I feel like they're all just like using computers and iPads.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Are they even getting taught to write? Right there?

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Speaker 2: It's like they're in secretary school. They're just sitting there

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Speaker 2: on the computers.

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Speaker 1: Wait, have you did anybody listen to I know rosden't,

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Speaker 1: but did you listen Greta?

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Speaker 6: Did you my chance to listen.

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Speaker 1: To like the Daily podcast about like how we fundamentally

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Speaker 1: taught a generation of people how to read incorrectly? No,

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Speaker 1: but I'm obsessed with Okay, okay, do we do we

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Speaker 1: remember hooked on?

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Speaker 2: Of course?

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Speaker 6: Okay?

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Speaker 1: So hooked ons, like is the right way to learn

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Speaker 1: how to read? It's how our generations I think learned

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Speaker 1: how to read. But I think shortly after our generation.

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Speaker 1: There was a woman in like the early aughts who

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Speaker 1: was like, no, like phonetic, Like, phonetic learning is like

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Speaker 1: not helpful and not fun and not intuitive, and so

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Speaker 1: there's an intuitive way to learn by way of finding

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Speaker 1: context clues and like learning context around words and letters

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Speaker 1: and like so and and she kind of was like

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Speaker 1: shitting on phonics, like while she was like populated on

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Speaker 1: shitted on phonics hard. While she was like populating this

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Speaker 1: like new basically this new way of learning.

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Speaker 6: And everyone believed her.

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Speaker 1: Everyone was like, this woman's right, Phonics sucks. Fuck phonics.

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Speaker 1: Let's now teach all of our kids how to learn intuitively.

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Speaker 6: I can't remember what.

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Speaker 3: I'm as, so what does that mean? I'm now used.

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Speaker 6: Here's what Michael Barbarros.

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Speaker 2: It means that you listen to intuition the song.

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Speaker 6: So it's kind of like, okay, here's how this is.

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Speaker 1: So but instead of like you learn, you know, sometimes

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Speaker 1: you're learning like cat bat hat and you're like learning

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Speaker 1: how these like different like vowels or consonants move together.

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Speaker 1: We're like if with this new woman's way to learn,

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Speaker 1: it's like you look at bat and then you see

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Speaker 1: the words around it and you're like, like, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like I don't even know how to

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Speaker 1: describe it because this is not how I learned how

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Speaker 1: to read.

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Speaker 6: But anyways, lo and behold.

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Speaker 1: Now we're like, I think a decade out from like

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Speaker 1: teaching an entire generation how to read this, and studies

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Speaker 1: are now finding that kids fundamentally are like their comprehension

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Speaker 1: skills are bad.

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Speaker 2: That does not surprise me because like, yeah.

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Speaker 6: Okay, say say more. Look, why doesn't it surprise either.

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Speaker 2: Of you rus children? I just no, I like, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'm on TikTok. I guess I have I have empirical

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Speaker 2: evidence that the kids are not all right. The generations

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Speaker 2: comeing up Generation ALPHA, that's the one after Gen Z.

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Speaker 2: They are dumb.

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Speaker 6: They're called generation.

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Speaker 4: Because they because we're at the end of the alphabet,

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Speaker 4: we had to start all over.

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Speaker 2: But they are out stupid.

664
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 4: I will just say, kids in general just are dumb

665
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 4: like that, you know, it's just period.

666
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 5: They're dae fair face.

667
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 3: I think that like the more.

668
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 4: Like the Okay, when I'm on TikTok and I see

669
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 4: kids they have the knowledge of like this will give

670
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 4: me something, will fulfill me with something and then I'm

671
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 4: gonna like focus energy posting on this thing that will

672
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 4: like lead to other emotions and other feelings. Like I

673
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 4: feel so grateful that we didn't have that, because I

674
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 4: do think that. You know, the internet can make you

675
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 4: smarter in many ways, but it can also make you

676
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 4: dumber and so many more ways. And I get disturbed

677
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 4: when I see like ten year olds being like like

678
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 4: whatever it is on TikTok, and I'm just like I

679
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 4: and not to sound like a fucking boomer, but I'm like,

680
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 4: go and sit on a goddamn swing and like play outside,

681
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 4: like what are you doing fun?

682
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: And use your pens and write heart above your eyes.

683
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: I think what it is is and I've noticed this.

684
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 2: I have sisters who are gen z. I think what

685
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: it is more than anything, it's a lack of curiosity

686
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: about the world because everything has been handed to them

687
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: and they are just not seeking out additional information. Everything's

688
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: been demystified. Yeah, were you dumb child, Greta, No.

689
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: I was.

690
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 4: I was not, And I'll tell you why. I was

691
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 4: curious to a fault where like I was. I.

692
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 3: Well, we all went through a face.

693
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 4: I saw some like uh, some tweet about.

694
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 3: Someone that was like that was like if you were.

695
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 4: We all went through a phase where we wanted to

696
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 4: be Harriet the Spy and I.

697
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 2: Was like that was talk about.

698
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 3: I was like, that is me.

699
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 4: And I would just like I was a snoop Like

700
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 4: as a kid, I was just like look through everything,

701
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 4: want to find out everything. I was obsessed with, like

702
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 4: you know, movies like Now and Then where they would

703
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 4: try and solve a big mystery.

704
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: And I also was a kid.

705
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 4: That I hated other kids, like I just wanted to

706
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 4: hang out with my mom and her friends. Like I

707
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 4: just wanted to be forty seven smoking a Marlboro light,

708
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 4: having a gorgeous glass of fucking Sonseer, you know. And

709
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 4: I really was like is that so much to ask?

710
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 4: Like that's all that I wanted.

711
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: Language Yeah, I mean Rose famously hates wine. But aside

712
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: from that, Rose was born of forty seven Marlborough smoking.

713
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I grew up in Boca Raton, Florida, Like

714
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,959
Speaker 2: I was, you know, I was old before I was young.

715
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 4: I mean, my my mom's friends would joke that I

716
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 4: was their age trapped.

717
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 3: In a little tiny body.

718
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: And that's like a really good quality to have. I

719
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: think that, like, I think that speaks to your character

720
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 1: now I think was it? I think cap er Lant

721
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: was also like one of these kids who are just

722
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: like she only hung out with an adults. Were you

723
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: an only child?

724
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 3: I was not.

725
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 4: I have two older siblings, but when I was my

726
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 4: both my siblings were out of the house by the

727
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 4: time I was oh.

728
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 3: Ten, by the time I was nine nine.

729
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 6: Time you were only child? Adjacent? Yeah, I was only

730
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 6: only child passing?

731
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I in my mind I was the only child.

732
00:36:47,960 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 5: Okay.

733
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: A lot of like what I envied from other kids

734
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: like U in school was usually something to do with

735
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: like trends at the time, like crazy bones, Pokemon cards.

736
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 4: Crazy bones. Oh my god, I forgot about crazy bones.

737
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: Like crazy bones were banned at my school because kids

738
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: were too intense about trading and playing with them.

739
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: Did y'all were lame? I was like suffocating myself so

740
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 2: that you would pass out and like get you get high?

741
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 2: Do you remember that, yes, choke yourself or when you go.

742
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 4: You pant and you'd like be on all fours panting

743
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 4: until you pass out exactly.

744
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 2: So it was that, and then it was those crushed

745
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 2: velvet textbook covers, those.

746
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: Oh those are gorgeous, the stretchy, the stretchy like ones

747
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: that you could like roll up into a little ball.

748
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, Greta. Something I'm wondering is were

749
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: you the kind of girl who when you had a

750
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 2: crush on someone, did you take your gelpen and write

751
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 2: missus TKTK I or mix. I don't know mix.

752
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 4: I don't think I ever.

753
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: I'm sure at.

754
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 4: Some point I doodled someone else's last name. I think

755
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 4: I was mostly concerned about what my autograph would be.

756
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 3: That was mostly what I was thinking.

757
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 4: I was like, I was figuring out what my autograph

758
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 4: would be.

759
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 3: And do you remember in.

760
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 4: Like US Weekly's or people when they would have like

761
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 4: a handwriting expert that could tell you what people's autographs

762
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 4: like said about their personalities.

763
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 6: I used to know.

764
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: But what a what a stupid fake thing that I

765
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: absolutely would have consumed.

766
00:38:58,440 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 3: I loved them.

767
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, like Brad Pitt's signature

768
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 4: says that he's sensitive but also.

769
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 3: A little shy and like whatever.

770
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 4: And I just remember signing my name over and over

771
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 4: and over again, thinking like one day, when my autograph

772
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 4: gets you know, deciphered by and handwriting expert what are

773
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 4: they going to think about me? So I was mostly

774
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 4: obsessed with doing that.

775
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 2: So I didn't care about my signature when I was

776
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: a young, a young thing. But one thing I did

777
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: perfect was my mom's signature so that I could use

778
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: her credit card yep, and so that I could sign

779
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: permission slips yep, like disciplinary notices. I remember one time actually,

780
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: I like got a note sent home because I was

781
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: doing bad in some class, and I forged my mom's

782
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: signature on it. And then one day I was at

783
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 2: school and I got called down to like a guidance

784
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 2: counselor office, and both my parents were sitting in the room,

785
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: and I was gooped because I discovered that I had

786
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 2: forged my mom's signature.

787
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 3: How did they discover that? Did they call?

788
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: They had to have called her, I think they called.

789
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: And the thing with my mom was like she had

790
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: to pretend like she was upset about it. But my

791
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 2: mom many times was like, just sign it. I don't

792
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: have time for that, Like it absolutely is something that

793
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: she would have preferred me to do for the convenience,

794
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 2: but she had to, you know, pretend that she was

795
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: upset about it.

796
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 4: I also was obsessed with forging everyone's signature. I could

797
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 4: do my mom's perfectly, I could do my sisters perfectly.

798
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 4: I also did the same thing I would get I

799
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 4: was queen of getting disciplined disciplinary letters in the mail.

800
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 4: I would always intercept them. But yes, oh my god,

801
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 4: I was like the mail, honey. The only reason why

802
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 4: the mailman came to my house was for my disciplinary

803
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 4: fucking letters. And I would forge my mom's signature all

804
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 4: the time. And similarly to your mom, my mom was

805
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 4: just like, yeah, I don't have time for this, just

806
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 4: like fucking sign it like whatever. I can still do

807
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 4: her signature to this day, and it's useless now because

808
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 4: she's dead, honey, So I ain't got no use for it.

809
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 6: Did y'all?

810
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 1: Did any of y'all have like a coveted field trip

811
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: like every year? I'll start with mine. We had this

812
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: thing called it was called like Reading Millionaires or the

813
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: million Words Club or something, and it was like if

814
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: you could read one million words in a school year,

815
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: which was we would have to like log all the

816
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: books we read and calculate an estimated average of how

817
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: many words were in the book based on like simple

818
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 1: math of like of the pages. And if we did

819
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: get to the you know, million words club. We got

820
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: to go to six Flags?

821
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: Wow did you get did you read a million words?

822
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 6: No? But I don't think to six flags like, No,

823
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 6: I don't.

824
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 2: I don't think you can.

825
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: It's easier than you think. I mean, it's a I mean,

826
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: a million is really not that much.

827
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 6: I think it's not.

828
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: That's not true.

829
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 6: It really isn't that much.

830
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: No, it's I remember hearing something like it would take

831
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: you thirty years to count to a million.

832
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 4: Well wait, let me see something. I'm going to google

833
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 4: how many.

834
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 6: Words in a book, because.

835
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 4: You know, these bitches will know how many words are

836
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 4: in the Bible.

837
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 6: Okay, seven hundred thousand?

838
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 3: It's oh really?

839
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 4: I here it says one hundred and eighty one thousand,

840
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty three words are in the Bible.

841
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 6: Maybe that's the New testamenty.

842
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 4: So you need to read the Bible ten times to

843
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 4: hit a million?

844
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: Who the Bible ten times?

845
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 3: Less than ten?

846
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 6: Probably I'm reading that.

847
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: The Bible's seven hundred. I'm reading that the Bible is

848
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand words.

849
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 6: I don't know.

850
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 2: That's Christian propaganda, Yeah it is, it is.

851
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 6: What about y'all field trips Okay.

852
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 4: We like when I was in the fifth grade, my

853
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 4: class went online like an outdoor adventure like.

854
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 3: Camping trip. I guess where we'd go.

855
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 4: And I grew up in DC, and we'd go to

856
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 4: this camp in Maryland and it was like on the Chesapeake.

857
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 4: And there were a few things that come to mind.

858
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 4: First of all, I was not an outdoors girl. That

859
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 4: was not my vibe. I was like I wanted to

860
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 4: be in. I was an indoor kid, okay. I wanted

861
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 4: to be specifically in like my mother's closet and or

862
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 4: like I don't know, just not doing outdoor stuff.

863
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 3: I didn't like dirt. That wasn't me.

864
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 4: So here I was, and I was ill equipped, not

865
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 4: in the right clothes, like I was wearing my cute

866
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 4: little like gap puffers, and all these kids are in

867
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 4: like Columbia, like Patagonia, you know, a REI like the

868
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:58,959
Speaker 4: real brands. Serving Cunt, Yeah, serving Cunt, one might say.

869
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 4: The first thing that I remember is we went on

870
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 4: like a little hike down to where the Chesapeake was

871
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 4: on the bay, and something must have happened because it

872
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 4: was filled.

873
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 3: In my kid mind, it was.

874
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 4: Filled with dead fish. Every single fish. It was like

875
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 4: washed ashore completely dead. It was like something from a

876
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 4: horror movie, like birds picking it over.

877
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 3: Naturally.

878
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 4: I was terrified because I was like yeh, like ah, like,

879
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 4: I don't want to be near these dead fucking fish.

880
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 4: This is gross. I'm not having fun. I don't want

881
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 4: a mountain bike. I'm cold, and the boy that I

882
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 4: have a crush on is not giving me literally any

883
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 4: attention because I just was not into it. So that

884
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 4: was number one. The number two. All of our meals

885
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 4: we like cooked like campfire vibes, so you know, you

886
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 4: take foil and you put whatever the fuck in there,

887
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 4: like potatoes and corn and whatever shit. And I remember

888
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 4: eating this meal and the potatoes were my potatoes were

889
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 4: hard because it was impatient and I didn't wait long enough.

890
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 4: And then the worst part of this entire trip was

891
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 4: I got diarrhea.

892
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 3: So got diarrhea. I had to dig.

893
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 4: You know, you have to dig that six inch hole.

894
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 4: Now I don't know what six inches is, honey, Okay,

895
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 4: I really don't. So I have to go into the

896
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 4: woods with a little fucking shovel, dig dig dig. I

897
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 4: probably dug like maybe an inch, like I don't even know.

898
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 4: Shit overflowing from this hole in the ground. And then

899
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 4: this other kid who was in my class also I think,

900
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 4: had to go and ship his pants. He was like

901
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 4: jetting in the woods and we like two, like two

902
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 4: wild animals. We locked eyes, Me squatting, shitting, ship falling

903
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 4: out of my house.

904
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 3: Into a shallow you know, like grave.

905
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 4: Radean and then William hide from Baird, God bless him.

906
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 4: He looked at me and like, I think saw the

907
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 4: ship drop and kept on his journey.

908
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 1: Wow, and now you're like bonded forever. You you that's

909
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: your husband, and.

910
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 4: How legally had to get married. And that's how I

911
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 4: met Abe. That's how we met. He saw the ship

912
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 4: fly out of my hole when I was in the

913
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 4: fifth grade, and that was it.

914
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 5: It was just true love.

915
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 3: It was so traumatic.

916
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 4: I felt so sick, and I just remember like waking

917
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 4: up the next morning being like, please God, I cannot

918
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 4: get out of here fast enough. I don't want to zipline.

919
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 4: I don't want to like do whatever the fuck. I

920
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 4: just want to get on the bus and go home.

921
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: I hated it.

922
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: I we had boy Scout camp, and I similarly hated

923
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: all things nature. Hated shitting in a hole, hated waking

924
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: up wet or tired or dry or rose any field

925
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: trip trauma. I'm sure there is that you all that

926
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: you've repressed since that.

927
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I do remember once going on this like

928
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: science themed kayaking trip. I was also not really I

929
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: was an indoor kid, you know. I loved reading and

930
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 2: theater and blah blah blah. But I did go on

931
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: this kayaking trip, I think just because I really liked science.

932
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 2: And I fell out of a kayak at some point

933
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 2: and that was not great. But then something. This wasn't

934
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: like a travel field trip, but we did used to

935
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 2: go on an annual field trip to a local science museum,

936
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 2: and for some reason, we always dissected things there, Like

937
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 2: we never really dissected stuff in school. It was only

938
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: on these trips. And one time we dissected baby sharks

939
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 2: and learned in doing that that sharks pee through their skin.

940
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 2: So when we cut the sharks open, piss flooded out.

941
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,959
Speaker 4: Oh my godness, for me when I died, I hope

942
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,959
Speaker 4: they kept me open and pissed just live everywhere.

943
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 3: That's amazing.

944
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,479
Speaker 6: I will do you one better. We had this.

945
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: So I grew up in the suburbs of Illinois, as

946
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: we know, the Midwest or a lot of just like

947
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: middle of the country schools systems have no infrastructure on

948
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: teaching kids how to have sex or any sort of

949
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: sex education in any way. Our like health classes were

950
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: not equipped to actually do sex talk stuff. And even

951
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: though they like abstinence was widely taught. And so there

952
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: was this science museum called the Robert Crown Center that

953
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: was in the kind of Chicago Tri State area that

954
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: high schools in the entire Tristate area would shuttle kids

955
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: as soon as they turned as soon as they get

956
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: to fifth grade, these kids would be shuttled in mass

957
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: to the Robbert Crown Center so that an expert at

958
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: this museum would give them the sex talk. And we

959
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: were there like watching like the Miracle Love Life and

960
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,720
Speaker 1: look at looking at these like baby models. And I,

961
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: at the ripe age of fifth grade, learned that sex

962
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: happens when you put a penis in a vagina.

963
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 6: That's really yes, can you? But I was so sheltered.

964
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: All I knew was that there's naked likeness and like rubbing,

965
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: Like I knew that it's like two naked bodies, But

966
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: I my brain never at any point.

967
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 6: Put together that the Pope goes into the JJ.

968
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 4: I feel like my sex education came from me watching

969
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 4: like movies that I shouldn't have been watching.

970
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 6: Like can you think of about movies.

971
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 4: Like specifically Jerry McGuire. My mom was like obsessed with

972
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 4: Jerry maguire and it is a great movie. But I

973
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 4: just remember when when Tom Cruise is fucking Kelly. Why

974
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 4: am I blinking on her last name?

975
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 6: Uh uh?

976
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 4: Ke Kelly Preston? May she rest your niece?

977
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 3: Is that her name? Kelly Preston?

978
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: Right?

979
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 4: Who was married to John Travolta. Yes, Tom Cruise is

980
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 4: fucking Kelly Preston. They're standing. They're fucking like in her library,

981
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 4: in her house, and she's like a business woman who's

982
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 4: like not fucking around, and like while they're having sex,

983
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 4: she's like, Jerry, you need to listen to me, like you, Jerry,

984
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 4: Like while they're having sex, and then they finish having sex,

985
00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 4: and then they eat this like gorgeous bowl of strawberry

986
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 4: and in my mind, I was like, that is sex,

987
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 4: Like that, well, it is everything.

988
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 2: That's why he keeps strawberries in my fridge at all times.

989
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 4: You're a big man, Jerry, Yeah, and like like standing

990
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 4: like just bouncing like Jerry.

991
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 6: Yes, dry, I don't even know the plot of Jerry Maguire.

992
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 3: It's not a sports agent.

993
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 6: That's all you need to say.

994
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, bros, So I discovered what sex was in a

995
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 2: way that I think a lot of kids do, which

996
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 2: was I was out of sleepover at my friend's house

997
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: and we walked in on his mom.

998
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 4: No, that is so mortifying, and also like for them, well,

999
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 4: I mean, if you.

1000
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 3: Went did you go home?

1001
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 4: Did you tell your parents? I saw mister and missus

1002
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 4: Fuck fucking.

1003
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 2: No. But his mom was very embarrassed and made us pancakes.

1004
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 2: And then this boy and I was my best friend.

1005
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 2: We decided to copy.

1006
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 4: Them after pancakes.

1007
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 3: After pancakes.

1008
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, were you guys horny kids?

1009
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 2: Yes?

1010
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 6: I was as well.

1011
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: And this comes back to gel pens, because my horniness

1012
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 1: would manifest trenifest in like really really horny drawing really

1013
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: of like Pokemon trainers and like Greek mythology, like gods.

1014
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: So that's why we send each other so much Disney porn.

1015
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: Yes, No, okay, Greta, you have to know like Rose

1016
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: and I are, like, you know, I wouldn't say like

1017
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: active consumers of like tune.

1018
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 6: Porn but we do. I would say it that we are.

1019
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 3: Do you do you like?

1020
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 4: Do you you whack it to tuon porn? Or are

1021
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 4: you just admirers of the art I have?

1022
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 6: I I have it.

1023
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: I don't regularly whack to tone porn, but I I

1024
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 1: you have.

1025
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 6: But I definitely have pulled.

1026
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: My patch yes to some to some like Hercules Milo

1027
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: from Atlantis. No, it's Maloa from Atlantis and Tarzan is

1028
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: the one that everyone talks about. But there's a lot

1029
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 1: of good tune porn out there that isn't mister xtuone

1030
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: who's an amazing tone porn creator.

1031
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: But have you whacked it to tune porn? Greta?

1032
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 4: I like, I have not whacked it to touon porn,

1033
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 4: but like I'm very interested.

1034
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: I okay, I will send you some recommendations, please do.

1035
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 3: I watched porn last night.

1036
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 4: My like, my relationship with porn is very I'm very

1037
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 4: in and out.

1038
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: You know.

1039
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 4: Sometimes I'm like, I really want to watch porn, and

1040
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 4: then other times I'm like, you know, is it ethical?

1041
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?

1042
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 3: And that's kind.

1043
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 4: Of like sort of the battle that I've always in

1044
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 4: with myself and I really only like to watch one

1045
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 4: very specific type of porn, which is typically like a

1046
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 4: girl being dumbed ideally by another girl. If if I

1047
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 4: if it has to be with a man, fine, but

1048
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 4: like I just want there. I want it to be

1049
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 4: with toys, and I want it to be dirty talk.

1050
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 3: And that's it.

1051
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 4: I don't need anything else, and not even dirty talk.

1052
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 4: I just want it to be like someone needs to

1053
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 4: be Like did I say you could come?

1054
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 3: Not yet?

1055
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 4: Like don't, don't. Don't you think about it? Don't think

1056
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 4: about coming yet, like you know, and it's so hard

1057
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 4: to find. It's so hard to find.

1058
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: Important question. Do you need the setup? Do you need

1059
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: a storyline? Do you need your narrative? H Greta, you

1060
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: are my girl.

1061
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 4: No, honestly, rip the panties off, let me see the puss,

1062
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 4: blast it off with a goddamn fucking hitachi and let's

1063
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 4: be done. Like I need. I literally need under two minutes,

1064
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 4: that's what I need. I want it to be in

1065
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 4: and out. I'm not trying to lounge you, but I

1066
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 4: don't have time. I'm trying to release and get on

1067
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 4: with my day. I'm trying to relax. I'm trying to

1068
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 4: do whatever I'm trying to do. And you know, last

1069
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 4: night I thought I found a good, a good little clip,

1070
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 4: but then it turned into this like weird setup where

1071
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 4: a girl was like tied up against the banister of

1072
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 4: the stairs, and then a guy just.

1073
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 3: Kept on putting his dick through like the nuts through

1074
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 3: the stairs.

1075
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 2: That's so funny.

1076
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 4: I kept on like making her. He was like face

1077
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 4: fucking her through the banister, and I was kind of laughing,

1078
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 4: and I was like, this is so not horny at all.

1079
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 4: I'm just like, I'm get I'm just having fun at

1080
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 4: this point, and was.

1081
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: Gigglingesty, that does sound fun with porn like that, I

1082
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 1: feel like I love this discussion on porn. I feel

1083
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: like with porn like that that I also get very

1084
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,439
Speaker 1: distracted on like little details in porn. And I don't watch,

1085
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: you know, heterosexual porn, so I don't know what the

1086
00:55:58,239 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: tea is over.

1087
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 6: There, but I I do feel like, not great, it's

1088
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 6: not great.

1089
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 2: No, it's not great.

1090
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: Well that's why you look for, you know, two women

1091
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: fucking or like I feel like gay porn.

1092
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 6: I don't know. I feel like everyone everyone you know

1093
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 6: loves gay porn.

1094
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 4: I love gay porn. I love watching to be honest,

1095
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 4: with you. I love watching gay porn. I can't really

1096
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 4: whack it to gay porn for me as much because

1097
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 4: I need.

1098
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 2: To because you don't respect them, because because.

1099
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 3: I don't respect you know, I don't respect gays.

1100
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's kind of I think that's fair.

1101
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: Do you like, since we're talking about pens, do you

1102
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 2: like erotica possibly potentially written with a gel pen? Have

1103
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 2: you ever have you ever read the seminal work Uncle

1104
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 2: Ronnie's New Whore.

1105
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 3: Shut No, I must it's.

1106
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 6: You know, talk about this.

1107
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,399
Speaker 2: We're not going to talk about it again on the podcast, but.

1108
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 3: Hold on, is it real erotica? Because I'm actually I think.

1109
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 4: I would be the kind of person that we get

1110
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 4: really horny for erotica.

1111
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think erotica is a very gen

1112
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 2: term for it. It's it's written porn.

1113
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: It's called Uncle Ronnie's New Horror Gay Incest Porn.

1114
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 4: I love written gay incesto.

1115
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, unfortunately new horn love incest porn. I hate

1116
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: to say it, but with the okay on the topic

1117
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: of this, of this Dix through staircase rails, et cetera.

1118
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: What you're describing, honestly, is something of a thematic quandary

1119
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: of porn, which is porn actors making choices. You're an actress,

1120
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: you understand this.

1121
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 6: That is it.

1122
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: They're making a choice to be like I'm gonna do

1123
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: oh maybe I'll do it through this ban this like

1124
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: railing or whatever. And this is like an interesting thing.

1125
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: It's like no, it's it's not like what I was.

1126
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: I saw this like this only fans porn, Like a

1127
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: few weeks ago, where in these two gay guys for

1128
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: some reason or another post it up too fuck next

1129
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: to a like life size cutout of Mariah Carey that

1130
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,479
Speaker 1: was in this person's bedroom, and.

1131
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 3: It is pride.

1132
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 2: They were trying to make. They were trying to go viral.

1133
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 2: They were trying to make a meme. But they're not

1134
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 2: trying to be sexy. If you watch the porn, it's

1135
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 2: extremely earnest. I mean I didn't see the setup, so

1136
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 2: I don't I only saw the two minute clips, so

1137
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1138
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 3: How they go, like making love?

1139
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 2: Did I reference Mariah? Like are they well?

1140
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: The tweet that it circulated on did have a Mariah

1141
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: lyric in it. But if you watch the porn, because

1142
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know how they got that's the thing. I

1143
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: don't know how they got there, and so I don't

1144
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: really want the narrative. But in this case, I was like, actually,

1145
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: do want to know how you got there and why?

1146
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: Because it was because they were like it was I mean,

1147
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: just like if I didn't see the Mariah cut out,

1148
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: it would be really really hot porn.

1149
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 6: But I was like, why is this here? And you're

1150
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 6: so earn.

1151
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 2: Mariah's scrolling on Twitter since season like, now why am

1152
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 2: I in it? Now?

1153
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:55,439
Speaker 6: Why am I in it?

1154
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 4: Mariah gets pissed that she's not more that she doesn't

1155
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 4: have more of a story.

1156
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Honestly, similarly ones, I'm also like a very I

1157
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: love like verbal porn and so like I you know,

1158
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: I'm always watching porn with the sound on.

1159
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 6: That's not the case with a lot of people.

1160
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: I know people that prefer to watch porn the sound off,

1161
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: which is crazy to me. But one time I was

1162
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: watching porn and there were these two guys fucking and

1163
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: like the soundtracks that people pick sometimes for like sex

1164
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: music is like so distracting. It's like the most KD

1165
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: out like EDM, like whatever blasting. One time I was

1166
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: watching this porn and I was like, why are they

1167
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: why is this guy getting railed to Judy Collins cover

1168
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: of both Sides?

1169
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 6: Now, like what is happen?

1170
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: Like because they're happening because they're gay, but bothcause now gay.

1171
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: It's like that's like lesbian divorce music. Like that is

1172
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: like not even gay music.

1173
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 4: By the way, there have been moments where I've been

1174
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 4: watching porn and I've shazamed.

1175
00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 3: Porn. I'm not kidding you. I did it with that song.

1176
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 3: It's like soft house.

1177
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 4: It's like sits it.

1178
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to send it to us. That's very you,

1179
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: Kamala meme. Can you turn this off? Can you turn

1180
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: this up?

1181
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1182
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: I I it's sometimes distracting, but I love the I

1183
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: love choices, and sometimes choices get you there, like I

1184
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: like you like. I often will just do like too,

1185
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: like I want a two minute clip and then I

1186
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: gotta get on with my day. But sometimes and Rose,

1187
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: you and I have talked about this, sometimes.

1188
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 6: The search for the perfect clip.

1189
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 2: Oh, if it's not hour, if it's not the right,

1190
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 2: if it's not the right thing that I need to

1191
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 2: get me there, I'm sorry. Everything else gets set aside.

1192
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 2: I have plans canceled, I have dinner reservation, move it.

1193
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: I have a podcast to record. We're gonna have to reschedule.

1194
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 2: I have to go through sixty nine pages of porn

1195
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 2: Hub to find the right thing to jerk off to.

1196
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 4: You know, you know it's dark when you're on like

1197
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 4: page fourteen and you're like, how have I not found anything?

1198
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 4: And you think you find something and then you don't,

1199
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 4: Like I thought I found something the other day and

1200
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 4: then it turned out to be this like elaborate, like

1201
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 4: massage fisting thing, and I was like, I don't want

1202
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 4: to see fisting personally, I don't.

1203
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 6: I don't want to see Okay, I disagree, asshole.

1204
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 4: I want to see if you fist my my asshole, fine,

1205
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 4: fisting my pussy hole.

1206
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 3: I don't want to see it.

1207
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 6: I don't want to see that.

1208
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like, uh, not unless you have a

1209
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 2: gel pen gripped in that fits.

1210
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, Not unless you're inserting a like the gel

1211
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 4: pen this shimmer, the like blue Mermaid shimmer jelp into

1212
01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 4: my pussy and then autographing your name on my surface?

1213
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 4: Do I want you fucking fisty so?

1214
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 2: And you know what that I'm sure that's out there.

1215
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's why we go to the Guana Colleges

1216
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 4: Tech to get that done.

1217
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 3: That's why it's important to.

1218
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 6: Go get your checkup.

1219
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 3: To go get your check up.

1220
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 4: They're like they open me up. They're like, wow, I

1221
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 4: see I was just about to say, Rodney.

1222
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 6: Dangerfield, Like what you have?

1223
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 2: Really? You have really great handwriting, Rodney Dangerfield. Or they're

1224
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,000
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1225
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1226
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1227
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1228
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1229
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1230
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1231
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1232
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:09,960
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1233
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1235
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1236
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,680
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1237
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:27,360
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1238
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 2: Until next week, Sayonara Adios and now a clip from

1239
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Speaker 2: our Patreon where this week we're talking about Real Housewives

1240
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 2: of New York and also, you know, sort of the

1241
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 2: future of the kind of content we'll be doing on Patreon.

1242
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 2: Become a patron at patreon dot com slash like a

1243
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 2: Virgin for weekly bonus episodes and more. Whaw. The recurring

1244
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 2: storyline on this show of like that there's never enough

1245
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 2: food at the It is funny, it's a good it's

1246
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 2: a good housewives bit, and it's also like.

1247
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: Me, yea, if a party doesn't have food, go fuck yourself.

1248
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 2: She's like, let's go to Nobu.

1249
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 6: Yes, that was a.

1250
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: Serve that I thought that was so funny. And Erin's

1251
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: like being very unfun I mean I would if I

1252
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: was Aaron, I would be really really pissed obviously.

1253
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 6: But I don't.

1254
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm not team Aaron. I think that she is probably

1255
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: my least favorite in the entire no, but.

1256
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 2: Erin is very necessary because she, unlike Sigh, she drives

1257
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 2: the platform.

1258
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 6: She does.

1259
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 2: She is the one who's having the events. She's the

1260
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 2: one who's starting shit with people and having issues with people.

1261
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 2: And you can be a bad person, but a good

1262
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 2: housewife and actually the worst of a person you are

1263
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 2: the better of a housewife.

1264
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: You usually are something speaking of Aaron, something that I

1265
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: wrote down, and this is very bad housewive good housewive dichotomy.

1266
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: Erin is a little Kelly Bensimone coded to me. She's

1267
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: way smarter than Kelly, which is why it's different like Kelly.

1268
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: It's like she's not as delusional as Kelly. Well, Kelly

1269
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: wasn't even delusional. She just literally had no no. But

1270
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: the thing is, in order to be delusional, you have

1271
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: to have like aspirations, motives, incentives, values. She had no thoughts, feelings,

1272
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 1: believes and motives of values. She literally was just reacting

1273
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: to things with an empty head in real time.

1274
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 6: She was so stupid.

1275
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 2: She was and is.

1276
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: But Aaron gives Aaron provides a similar archetype. This like

1277
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: kind of like I'm driving the plot forward. I don't

1278
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: really know why, but I'm gonna do it anyways, and

1279
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: now everyone hates me like everyone hated Kelly Bensimone.

1280
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Aarin does lack a little bit of

1281
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 2: self awareness that probably comes from, you know, a lifetime

1282
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 2: of privilege. But she's very confident and because of that,

1283
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 2: you know, she is making things happen, and that is

1284
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 2: kind of the most important. The most important things you

1285
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 2: can do as a housewive are either create the plot

1286
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 2: in a really engaging way or react in a really

1287
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 2: engaging way. And the worst thing you can do is

1288
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 2: neither of those things. Is just sort of be there.

1289
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 6: I guess in some.

1290
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 1: Way, Kelly is maybe more of a reactor. But yeah, wait,

1291
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: something that we didn't talk about was Jessel basically suggesting

1292
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: that Jenna lyons creative direct the ending of her two

1293
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 1: year dry spell.

1294
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 2: Well I missed that.

1295
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 6: At the wedding, Jessel.

1296
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: So, Jenna was telling the girls that she just got

1297
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: broken up with or rather they just broke up and

1298
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 1: life happens, andah blah blah blah. She's not revealing too much,

1299
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 1: but they have like a little moment, and I think

1300
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: Sy has this momentre it's like, oh my god, Jenna's

1301
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 1: like finally being like vulnerable or whatever, and Jessel's a

1302
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 1: part of this moment. And they're talking and as Jenna's

1303
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: trying to like describe like the breakup or just like

1304
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: she's having a literally like emotionally describing something about the breakup,

1305
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: Jessel interrupts her and goes do you want to have a

1306
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: threesome with me and my husband?

1307
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like a way to solve their problems.

1308
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 2: Her husband hates her, they hate each other, and the

1309
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 2: fact that they don't fuck concerns me. To me, it's like,

1310
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 2: I don't even think that the husband. For a while,

1311
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 2: it was like or like, for a minute, I was like,

1312
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 2: the husband's gay, clearly.

1313
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 6: But I don't even think he's gay.

1314
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: I think that he legitimately wants to like please and

1315
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: support her, and I think that she has some.

1316
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 2: I can see.

1317
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 6: I feel like maybe I'm projecting cultural religious trauma.

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Speaker 1: That's like underneath a lot of her insecurities around IVF sex,

1319
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 1: being a good wife performing. I feel like I had

1320
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: a lot of shame around sex because of my parents

1321
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: and their beliefs on me. And I think that if

1322
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: her parents' beliefs had such an impact on her opinions

1323
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: on IVF and how she had to conceal that for years,

1324
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if there was something else going

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01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 1: on in her sex life or.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, you know what I actually think it

1327
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 2: might be is he loves her. She hates him because

1328
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 2: their story is that they were friends for years and

1329
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 2: then got and then just like got together and had

1330
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 2: these kids. And she, from the looks of it, she

1331
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 2: runs their life. And I bet he is like a

1332
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 2: full cook, you know, like she just like owns him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's literally gonna force force him to have

1334
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 1: a third child, like forcible impregnation.

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Speaker 2: And then their marriage is gonna fall apart. Their marriage,

1336
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 2: it's well, it's will be her season two plotline, you think, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I hope we get it that soon because I

1338
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 1: can't wait another season.

1339
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Speaker 2: Maybe season maybe season three. No, like season two, it'll

1340
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 2: be really brewing in the background, and maybe, like as

1341
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 2: the second season of this new iteration of Ronnie is airing,

1342
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 2: it'll start falling apart publicly, and then we won't get

1343
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 2: it on camera until season three.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, they will plan their divorce exactly when

1345
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 1: they're not filming. Well, that was quite a recap, that was,

1346
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 1: And honestly, I feel like Ronnie has not really been

1347
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 1: worth recapping until now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it is. But this this also is the

1349
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 2: mid season point, so yeah, well, so it's good that

1350
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 2: we checked in, and maybe the next time we'll check

1351
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 2: in is at the end of the season, like before

1352
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 2: the reunion episodes, and then we'll do like post reunion

1353
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 2: check in work, full wrap up,