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Speaker 2: Before we get to our first question, I just wanted

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Speaker 2: to clarify something that I said on yesterday's podcast. I

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Speaker 2: made a reference to playing foot hockey when I was

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Speaker 2: back in elementary school, and I confused a lot of

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Speaker 2: people out there, including Canadians, who are like, what the

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Speaker 2: hell is foot hockey? You know, I've heard a road

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Speaker 2: hockey or floor hockey. What is foot hockey? Well, foot

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Speaker 2: hockey to us was I guess soccer. But but there

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Speaker 2: was a big yeah, there was a big difference. You're

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Speaker 2: playing with the tennisall, that's right. You're not playing with

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Speaker 2: a hockey stick though you're using your foot, So yeah,

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Speaker 2: it is like soccer. But the goalies were allowed to

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Speaker 2: use like winter coats as they're sort of you know,

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Speaker 2: as they're sort of you know, glove slash blocker. Right,

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Speaker 2: So that's to me the real difference.

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Speaker 3: It's like the pads, right, you're holding your goalie pad.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the heck does that mean they're holding jackets?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like like and just get to hold it up

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Speaker 2: in front of you exactly Like JD said, it's almost

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Speaker 2: like their pads, almost like their glove their blocker. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you just had you made yourself a little bit a

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Speaker 2: bit bigger in your net. Yeah, that's foot hockey.

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Speaker 5: I was confused.

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Speaker 4: You know, we were talking kickball at the time you

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Speaker 4: slipped in foot hockey. I was thinking these crazy Canadians

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Speaker 4: must be playing hockey with their feet instead of sticks.

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Speaker 4: But then I started thinking, okay, it's just got to

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Speaker 4: be standard. You know, floor hockey, you're running around using

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Speaker 4: your feet. I would have never guessed in a million

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Speaker 4: years you're just kicking a tennis ball around.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But look, look, look the difference between that and soccer

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Speaker 2: is uh, you know, we were body checking each other

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Speaker 2: playing and stuff like that. You know, it's supposed to

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Speaker 2: supposed to you know, hit each other in soccer, So

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Speaker 1: It is crazy how I automatically knew what you were

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Speaker 1: I also played a ton of that. Also got on

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Speaker 1: all fours and played I don't know, hockey with a

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Speaker 1: tennis ball, but I was, we're we're hitting it with

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Speaker 1: I'm still confused though. I'm still confused. Are you a

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, you're making it. You're making it, yeah,

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Speaker 2: You're you're holding it out like a yeah, like you'd

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Speaker 2: I mean, the net wasn't You're not playing in a

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Speaker 2: I look, I thought everybody in Canada especially was playing

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Speaker 1: another great batch you guys coming through months and months

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about the NBA resuming play in one

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Speaker 1: location and got to wondering, what will the floor look like.

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Speaker 1: There's no home team, so what logo will be in

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Speaker 1: Congrats on the webby. That's from Dave in Melbourne, Australia.

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Speaker 1: Now there will be home teams technically, yeah, I guess.

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Speaker 1: But how do you answer this, skeets? What do you think?

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Speaker 2: It's a great question. It's something I honestly hadn't even

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Speaker 2: helpline phone number for people. Honestly, right now, let's paint

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Speaker 2: hashtag justice for George Floyd right there at center Court

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Speaker 2: to protest a police murder of another innocent black man. Like,

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Speaker 2: let's use this for some good, not just a dumb

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Speaker 2: NBA playoffs logo. Let's do something crazy and let's get

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Speaker 2: But again a great question from Dave. What will they

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Speaker 2: put there? You know, yesterday guys on the up Down

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Speaker 2: you know, we get twenty teams. Let's say we start

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Speaker 2: What do you think of this, Lelly, let's start with you.

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Speaker 2: You had some strong opinions about just getting rid of

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Speaker 2: conferences and going one to sixteen. What about this World

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Speaker 2: that too radical?

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Speaker 6: No? No, I'm a fan of anything really to try

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Speaker 6: something out, I just wouldn't do groups of five teams though.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you only need to look at soccer for

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Speaker 6: the Champions League or the World Cup, and they do

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Speaker 6: groups of four, and then you would still keep sixteen teams.

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Speaker 6: By expanding it out to twenty, you obviously get more

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Speaker 6: don't need more teams. We need less teams and less games.

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Speaker 6: So I would just do four groups of four with

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Speaker 6: the top two advancing, and then the top two advancing. Again,

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Speaker 6: I think I think that's the way to do it.

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Speaker 6: It's just exactly how how many games you want to

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Speaker 6: play within that system do you play? Does each team

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Speaker 6: more than that to determine who wins that group, And

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Speaker 6: then how do you determine actually who finishes on top

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Speaker 6: in a tide scenario with wins and losses and things

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Speaker 6: like that. So there's something there to be talked about,

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Speaker 6: for sure. But again I would look at a system

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Speaker 6: rather than expand it out to groups of five teams myself,

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Speaker 6: because I don't really know where that has has been

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Speaker 6: just have to figure out exactly how the teams advance,

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Speaker 6: again depending on their win loss records and depending on

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Speaker 6: how many times they play each other.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with Lee.

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Speaker 4: I prefer sixteen teams the twenty. You know, there would

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Speaker 4: which is huge. You're also getting fewer games, which keeps

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Speaker 4: the first quote on crow round, which is what they

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Speaker 4: would call the group stage, keeps it a little tighter.

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Speaker 5: But I do like the idea that if they.

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Speaker 4: Go to twenty teams, the Spurs would be there, and

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Speaker 4: since they're going to brand this as the playoffs, the

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Speaker 4: Spurs playoff streak would stay alive, just out of the

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Speaker 4: group stage idea. I think that's pretty funny. But I

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Speaker 4: like the idea of so much variety for the first round.

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Speaker 4: You know, most of the years that we watch a

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Speaker 4: you're hoping that this is over in three games rather

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Speaker 5: And this, to me, you're going to see.

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Speaker 4: The best teams play against three different or four different opponents,

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Speaker 4: and I just think that that's a little bit more

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Speaker 1: Yeah, unquestionably, this is a problem that's been going on

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Speaker 1: for years. With the NBA. The first round just is

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Speaker 1: a bit everybody knows it, and nobody necessarily wants to

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Speaker 1: seven that never, very rarely generates an upset. The last

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Speaker 1: acl right, and that it was a long time ago.

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Speaker 1: So I love the idea of there's more chance of

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Speaker 1: an upset, that's for sure. But in this scenario, the

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Speaker 1: twenty teams sounds a little sounds a little crazy because

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Speaker 1: they're trying to allow the teams at the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the Western Conference picture and in the bubble. They're on

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Speaker 1: the bubble, the Blazers, the Kings, the Spurs, and the

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Speaker 1: Pelicans a chance. But do we need to push a

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Speaker 1: twenty nine and thirty seven Blazers team to get a

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Speaker 1: shot in there? And you're kind of saying, hey, Blazers,

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Speaker 1: you're the team number eighteen, team number seventeen. You're basically

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Speaker 1: as equal as the Milwaukee Bucks. I mean like you're

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Speaker 1: sort of devaluing the regular season, Like what did the

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Speaker 1: Bucks play for? Maybe you allow the top four seeds

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Speaker 1: it would be the Bucks, the Lakers, the Raptors, and

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Speaker 1: whether it's eight or twelve teams fighting for that opportunity

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Speaker 1: to play them in the second round, that's just an option.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, again, go check out this article and let

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Speaker 2: Well, it's good, but there's people to like install them

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Speaker 4: That old spaceship decal you used to have. We'll throw

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Speaker 4: Like you said, Skeets, what's out there now is an

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Speaker 4: bring it Bucks. You got some cream City decals, cream

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Speaker 4: I started following the NBA during the eighteen nineteen season

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Speaker 2: What's something you guys got into just before it was cool?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Blake Griffin made them relevant anyway. But what

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Speaker 2: Wow, good for you. How many do you think you've watched?

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Speaker 5: Explains why you're so smart? Smart now.

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Speaker 4: Get all these tips from the Ted Talks. The last

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Speaker 2: What about podcasting tasks? Isn't that the answer for us

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Speaker 4: I don't think you're hearing another dude talking about gardening

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm behind on everything. I just now starting to

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Speaker 3: I think I'm going to pull the trigger on that longboard.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly what I mean. What's he just going

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Speaker 3: I'm not a tricks guy. I just want to cruise.

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Speaker 3: he's we're going around our neighborhood, but I'm on a scooter,

435
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Speaker 3: like just because we don't have an extra pkateboard, so

436
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Speaker 3: and I'm all sort of hunched over and I'm just

437
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Speaker 3: looking at him, going damn. He looks cool and just

438
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Speaker 3: just enjoying the freedom of that board and there's no

439
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Speaker 3: breaks and it's just like the danger of it, and

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Speaker 3: I just want to be boarding next to him for

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Speaker 3: you know, one or maybe three times and then I'll

442
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Speaker 3: put it away.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, has there been any like bad falls yet?

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Speaker 3: Nothing serious, not going to but there's been a few.

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Speaker 3: But you know, he's all geared up. We we you know, helmet, elbows,

446
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Speaker 3: knees and wrists.

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Speaker 2: So would you do the same if with the long one.

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Speaker 3: I would probably do helmet for sure, and probably risk

449
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Speaker 3: guards because I don't want to break my risk because

450
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Speaker 3: I want to be able to do the show.

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Speaker 6: So I could just see you cruising along in the

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Speaker 6: cargo short side.

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Speaker 2: D Yeah, he would look really cool, awesome.

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Speaker 5: Have you given it a shot on the short board

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Speaker 5: at all?

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Speaker 3: And I love it. I love anything with wheels and

457
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Speaker 3: moving fast like this, so I think, yeah, I'm into.

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Speaker 2: It all right, Yeah, okay, I'm in and you should

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Speaker 2: do it. You should get it.

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Speaker 1: Next one here? What's up guys? Longtime fan from the

461
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Speaker 1: TVJ days. I was jogging to work in the rain

462
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Speaker 1: this morning listening to you guys, and it put me

463
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Speaker 1: in the perfect mood to ponder the legacy of my

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Speaker 1: favorite player of all time, Damar DeRozan. I have an

465
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Speaker 1: unhealthy obsession with Damar's Hall of Fame case. The dude

466
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Speaker 1: scores consistently, is super durable and has a crazy work

467
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Speaker 1: ethic that I think will allow him to play deep

468
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Speaker 1: into his thirties and put up in an insane amount

469
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Speaker 1: of shots. He already has sixteen thousand points and I

470
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Speaker 1: think he will finish with around twenty four k. Career

471
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Speaker 1: totals aren't brought up a lot in basketball, but that

472
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Speaker 1: would put him around thirtieth all time. I think that

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Speaker 1: would force the voter's hand and tomorrow will eventually be enshrined.

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Speaker 1: What do you guys think of Damar's Hall of Fame case?

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Speaker 1: That's from Charles in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Lee, do you

476
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Speaker 1: want to drop a homer on that homer? Big time homer,

477
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Speaker 1: but but an interesting case. The homer doesn't like it.

478
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Speaker 1: I can hear it's skeets doesn't like it.

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Speaker 2: I just okay, Look, I'm just as guilty as Charles

480
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Speaker 2: here at times, especially because we get questions and we

481
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Speaker 2: do address them on Beach Step In or other podcasts,

482
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Speaker 2: But we got to stop doing this, like we're getting

483
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Speaker 2: we've gone too far with like debating Hall of Fame

484
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Speaker 2: cases while the guy is still playing and still has

485
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Speaker 2: like probably like Charles says, like DeRozan could play another

486
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Speaker 2: what seven eight years easily. He's only thirty. So I

487
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Speaker 2: don't know, No, it's frustrated. I just I just wish

488
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Speaker 2: we would stop doing it because like we're now debating

489
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Speaker 2: their Hall of Fame cases when they're not even like

490
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Speaker 2: halfway through their playing career. It's sort of insane to me.

491
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Speaker 2: But you know, I was curious. I want to do

492
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Speaker 2: a little deep dive, you know, look at the numbers.

493
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Speaker 2: Yeah you did, and it's funny. I compared three guys.

494
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Speaker 2: Came to mind when I wanted to compare DeRozan through

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Speaker 2: his first eleven seasons to a couple guys in the

496
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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame and then one guy not so I

497
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Speaker 2: compared DeRozan's numbers. You know, I fired this up on

498
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Speaker 2: Basketball Reference. God blessed Basketball Reference. DeRozan's first eleven seasons

499
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Speaker 2: two Alex English, Hall of Famer, Mitch Richmond a Hall

500
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Speaker 2: of Famer, though a questionable one, and Jerry Stackhouse and yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean through the first eleven years, they're all pretty

502
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Speaker 2: damn similar. Like they're they're close, you know, they're obviously

503
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Speaker 2: a lot of these guys are known for basically scoring,

504
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Speaker 2: and you know, you look at their per thirty six numbers,

505
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Speaker 2: it's English as the number one of the of the

506
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Speaker 2: four here, and then it's then it's Mitch, but DeRozan

507
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Speaker 2: right behind him, and even Jerry Stackos there. I just

508
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Speaker 2: thought that was an interesting comparison because some of those

509
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Speaker 2: guys are Hall of famers having played out their careers,

510
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Speaker 2: and Jerry Stakos of course not, but his numbers are

511
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Speaker 2: you're very, very similar to De Rozen. So it's like,

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Speaker 2: I don't think de Rosan's a Hall of Fame player

513
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Speaker 2: right now, and I don't think he ultimately will be

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Speaker 2: outside of going on some pretty crazy, you know, sort

515
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Speaker 2: of later in his career type runs or seasons where

516
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Speaker 2: he's still going twenty three, twenty four to twenty five

517
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Speaker 2: points per game and then has playoff success and maybe

518
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Speaker 2: wins title. I just don't see it happening. So I

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Speaker 2: guess I'm down on this. I don't think he's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a Hall of Famer, but go look it up there. Look,

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Speaker 2: I see what Charles is saying, Like, you know, Pierce

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Speaker 2: scoring wise, if that's enough for you to go in

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Speaker 2: the Hall, then then maybe double D's on his way.

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Speaker 1: Total tea.

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Speaker 4: I wish Charles was making the Homer case for theo

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Speaker 4: Flurry because you must be to joking me if you

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Speaker 4: think Damar is a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: Yah.

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Speaker 4: The main thing that I take from this question is

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Speaker 4: that we're gonna have to update our parameters for the

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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame because I think there are gonna be

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Speaker 4: more and more players who score twenty thousand points because

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Speaker 4: players are coming into the NBA younger, they're better when

534
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Speaker 4: they're younger, and coaches are more okay with turning over

535
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Speaker 4: their offense to a twenty year old, right Like that

536
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Speaker 4: would have never happened in nineteen ninety five. So you're

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Speaker 4: not going to have those first four seasons of scoring

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Speaker 4: two thousand points. So you're gonna get a lot more

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Speaker 4: guys that are putting up these numbers that you would

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Speaker 4: think would be shoe ins to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna look very strange, you know, twenty years from now,

542
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Speaker 4: and Buddy Healed is one of the five greatest shooters

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Speaker 4: of all time. He's gonna come up a little bit

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Speaker 4: later in the show. But that's just what it's gonna be,

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Speaker 4: because the game has changed throughout the course of NBA history.

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Speaker 4: Right now, if you look at Basketball Reference, we're all

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Speaker 4: firing it up last night. If you look at their

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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame probabilities, DeMar de Rosen is thirtieth, and

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Speaker 4: I think that's about right. I mean, he's right there

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Speaker 4: with Isaiah Thomas current Isaiah Thomas for his chances of

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Speaker 4: getting into the Hall of Fame, and I think they

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Speaker 4: both have the same no chance of getting in the

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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean, I agree that he doesn't feel

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Speaker 6: like a Hall of Famer, but he might just get

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Speaker 6: there just through longevity and by getting to the stats

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Speaker 6: as the rider rucks there. I mean, he's already a

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Speaker 6: four time All Start, two tome All NBA. I think

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Speaker 6: it's quite plausible that DeRozan makes more All Star Games

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Speaker 6: and even perhaps another All NBA thirteen.

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Speaker 2: How many more? How many more? Who knows?

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Speaker 6: I mean, but you look, he's never had a serious injury.

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Speaker 6: He could be the Joe Johnson type of guy, you know,

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Speaker 6: like he gets the respect after all these years. He's

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Speaker 6: been a twenty point per game scorer for the last

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Speaker 6: what eight year, seven years something like that. He could

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Speaker 6: easily score twenty a game. Again, it is a little

568
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Speaker 6: bit easier to score these days, but the way that

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Speaker 6: he gets his points, he goes to the free throw

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Speaker 6: line a lot. I can see him averaging twenty for

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Speaker 6: another five years in a row.

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Speaker 4: So you see Joe Johnson as a Hall of Famer, Well,

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Speaker 4: he probably will get in.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I haven't got his numbers here right now,

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Speaker 6: but just thinking about his career again, I'm not saying

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Speaker 6: I necessarily agree with it. I'm just saying I think

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Speaker 6: he might just force his way in based on a long,

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Speaker 6: long career. Because again, DeRozan, you said seven or eight

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Speaker 6: years he gets he's only thirty. He could easily be

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Speaker 6: still playing he's until he's forty, you know.

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Speaker 2: But that's where I think, that's where I think we

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Speaker 2: might have to start changing those parameters. Like it's not

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Speaker 2: going to be all that impressive really for a guy

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Speaker 2: to play sixteen to seventeen seas, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: Like it won't I agree.

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Speaker 6: That that he doesn't. He's the sort of guy, you know,

587
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Speaker 6: like La Marcus Audridge. He goes out and gets his

588
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Speaker 6: points and he's had a good, you know, good steady career.

589
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Speaker 6: But he doesn't seem one of those franchise altering players

590
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Speaker 6: that tends to be what a Hall of Famer should be.

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Speaker 6: But that's just based on sort of opinion of it

592
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Speaker 6: rather than you know, guys who actually get into the Hall.

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Speaker 6: So you know, it's it's it's it's going to be

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Speaker 6: an interesting case. But if he does, let's say he

595
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Speaker 6: moves to another team or he stays in San Antonio

596
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Speaker 6: and they pick up a couple of championships, then I

597
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Speaker 6: think he's an absolute lock to get in if he

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Speaker 6: has those on his resume as well.

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Speaker 2: So he does, I do agree with that he needs

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Speaker 2: to have, like he just needs a ring or two

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Speaker 2: and then and then maybe I don't even think he's

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Speaker 2: a lock. Then I think it's I.

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Speaker 6: Mean, I think I think that kind of depends on

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Speaker 6: the role he plays. If he gets it in the

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Speaker 6: next year or two, he's likely to be one of

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Speaker 6: the top two or three players in the team. But

607
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Speaker 6: if he gets it in five or six years, then

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Speaker 6: he's probably not one of the key players on his team.

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Speaker 6: But again, just because you think about how he scores,

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Speaker 6: he's a very reliable scorer who gets the free throad

611
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Speaker 6: line a lot, So I can see I'm just filling

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Speaker 6: up his basically stuffing he's scoring stats for the next

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Speaker 6: eight to ten years. And then if you Goy's got

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Speaker 6: twenty four to twenty five thousand points, it's going to

615
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Speaker 6: be hot to keep him out of the Hall of Time.

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Speaker 1: Skeets, I was gonna ask you a very lively debate.

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Speaker 1: Do you regret your comment about not liking these Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame debates? Because this is a great Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame debate. I think it's okay to have guys that

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Speaker 1: are gonna be on the prespice. People will have to

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Speaker 1: ponder DeMar DeRozan because of guys like Mitch Richmond getting in,

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Speaker 1: and Mitch Richmond actually even less playoff success. Really he

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Speaker 1: got a title at the end with the Lakers. That

624
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Speaker 1: doesn't count. But DeMar de Rosen at least went to

625
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Speaker 1: our conference finals. Mitch Richmond did not. But maybe you

626
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Speaker 1: have to change the primers. That's going to be a

627
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Speaker 1: hell of a line to draw at some point, and

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Speaker 1: just to just say we're going in a very new

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Speaker 1: direction because he's gonna surpass Mitch Richmond for points. I

630
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Speaker 1: don't think there's any doubt about that. And the emailer wrote,

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Speaker 1: career totals don't get looked at. Historically, the twenty thousand

632
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Speaker 1: point mark was a barometer to some degree for guys

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Speaker 1: who get in. There's forty six guys who have scored

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Speaker 1: twenty thousand points are actually there's forty eight and forty

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Speaker 1: six are into the Hall of Fame that are eligible.

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Speaker 1: Only two aren't in the Hall of Fame? Can you

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Speaker 1: name it? Pass?

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Speaker 6: Tom Chamis is one.

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Speaker 1: Those those two Antoine Jamison and Tom Chambers who have

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Speaker 1: become eligible and scored twenty Only ones who aren't in.

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Speaker 1: Joe Johnson might not make it. He's past twenty k.

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Speaker 1: DeMar DeRozan will pass it for sure. And I'm okay

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Speaker 1: with this this debate. It's really interesting. He's in that

644
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Speaker 1: ilk of Richmond and seven straight years twenty points, only

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Speaker 1: four all stars and that's it. You know, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be hard to keep him out. I think because he's

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Speaker 1: gonna score, he's gonna he's gonna destroy the twenty thousand

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Speaker 1: point plot. So he's gonna go, he's gonna destroy.

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Speaker 2: No, this is my though, This is my point with

650
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: the debate. We don't know that, we don't he could

651
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: blow out his achilles and never play another game. Like

652
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, we're he's not even close to being done.

653
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: As Lee just said, he could play another decade. It's like,

654
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: we don't know what happens within that decade. I just

655
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: think we're getting a little too ahead of ourselves with

656
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: these And I will say when it.

657
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Speaker 1: Comes to we're at his peak, I think I think

658
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: we're at his peak and we know he's not getting name.

659
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: Okay, well then his peak is not good enough. And

660
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: that's exactly right. I am much more on team a

661
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: guy that maybe doesn't have as long as his career

662
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: or as cumulative numbers, but was up. He burned brighter

663
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: for a smaller window and was important. However, I know,

664
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: like what does that mean, but like was a better player,

665
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: like let's say Chris Webber. I think Chris Webber is

666
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: so much more Hall of Fame player than Tomarto Rosen

667
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: and maybe de Rosan at the end of the day

668
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: is going to have the better counting stats because he's

669
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Speaker 2: played seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, whatever he ends up playing. But

670
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Speaker 2: I don't I don't care about that as much as

671
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: what I'm getting at. I understood why it made. That's maybe, yeah,

672
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: a decade or two a girl, but I think it

673
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: has to me in a little bit less and less

674
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 2: now in my opinion.

675
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's forty six guys that I should say

676
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: they have past twenty forty four have gotten in and

677
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: Chambers and Jemisenter are still out there. LaMarcus Aldridge, I

678
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: think you mentioned Emily definitely will pass the twenty thousand

679
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: points plateau. He'll be another one of those guys that

680
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: are was the man for a while. But yeah, Chris

681
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: Webber's yeah, it's a that's a good good name to

682
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: bring up to your head.

683
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 2: I wouldn't.

684
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Speaker 6: I mean, there's no way I would put de Rosen

685
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 6: in Chris Webbers category as far as a pure basketball

686
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 6: player at all. I agree with that one hundred percent.

687
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 6: But again, sometimes it's just about accumulating stats and longevity

688
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 6: to get through and that that probably will just be

689
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 6: the strongest case for Derosen, you know, because we know

690
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 6: already at this stage of his career, he's never going

691
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 6: to be a number one guy on a team. You know,

692
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 6: he's not a build around. He's a complimentary piece right now,

693
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 6: but he's a very reliable one, So you know. I mean,

694
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 6: but the whole Hall of Fame itself does need an

695
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 6: overhaul for that reason. I think, because you've got you know,

696
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 6: you've got college college awards and accolades and things like that,

697
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 6: International awards and things like that as well. So that's

698
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Speaker 6: where I just think they need to figure out a

699
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Speaker 6: way to separate it a little bit more and have

700
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Speaker 6: an NBA Hall of Fame.

701
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Speaker 5: How about this. This is an idea I just came

702
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Speaker 5: up with.

703
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Speaker 4: They build like a new Hall of Fame, and it's

704
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Speaker 4: it's shaped like a famous building, a pyramid of sorts,

705
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 4: and they put the highest of the holiest of holiest

706
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Speaker 4: players in the top of the pyramid.

707
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Speaker 5: I don't know, I'm just something I'm work shopping. I

708
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Speaker 5: don't know if it would ever work.

709
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you if you start writing a book about that,

710
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Speaker 2: I'm interested.

711
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Speaker 5: Let me jam it out real quick.

712
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Speaker 2: Okay, So Deroza, let's hear from you guys. Is he

713
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: on his way to becoming a Hall of Famer or

714
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Speaker 2: no way. Let's hear from you, and I'm.

715
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Speaker 4: Curious if you think THEO Fleury should be in the

716
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. We're talking eight hundred and sixty career

717
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 4: points man.

718
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Speaker 1: Yeah, burned bright what Skeets talked about with Chris Webber,

719
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: that light was burning, not just because he was a

720
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: Calgary flame, but it was burning, but it fizzled. I

721
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Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't think so. Trey. Is he

722
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Speaker 1: at the top of the hockey reference, I don't know.

723
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Speaker 4: I don't have it saved to my favorites like I

724
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Speaker 4: do basketball reference.

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Speaker 1: He's in my Hall of Fame, that's one hundred percent.

726
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: I think. I think I have binders and binders of

727
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: Calgary Flames cards. I think THEO Flury they're alphabetically ordered.

728
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Speaker 1: I think THEO Flury is thrown in at the front

729
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: because he is my Hall of Famer.

730
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Speaker 2: That's beautiful. Just quick trivia question because I brought up

731
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Speaker 2: Alex English, Hall of Famer, eight time All Star. How

732
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Speaker 2: many career three pointers do you think Alex English made.

733
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Speaker 5: Six?

734
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Speaker 2: A little higher eighteen eighteen for eighty three from three

735
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Speaker 2: point lay a different time back here in the early

736
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Speaker 2: eighties when he was flourishing all right. Next one Good

737
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Speaker 2: Morning's Sweet Noo Dunkers the last dance was incredibly eye

738
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Speaker 2: opening for a number of reasons. Thanks for the insightful

739
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: and entertaining recaps. By the way, something that stuck out

740
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 2: to me was the fog that surrounds certain games, interviews,

741
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 2: and sequences of events in our collective consciousness. Consider the

742
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 2: popular notion among casual fans that Michael Jordan transitioned seamlessly

743
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 2: back into the league in ninety five and dominated immediately,

744
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 2: when in reality is transform body wor out quicker than

745
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: usual and the bulls were bounced by the magic. Consider

746
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: the myth that Coup Coach crumbled under the pressure when

747
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 2: Michael and Scotti went at him in Barcelona in ninety two.

748
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: In reality, Cup Coach was a likely starstruck young man

749
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Speaker 2: who realized too late that the Goat and his sidekick,

750
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: also a top ten player in the world, wanted to

751
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 2: whoop his ass for a perceived slight committed by their

752
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 2: GM Hell, Coup Coach even had a decent showing in

753
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 2: their second matchup in the gold medal game. This isn't

754
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 2: to say that the larger narrative is much impacted by

755
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 2: these small anecdotes, but rather that when these details are

756
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: lost to the fog of nostalgia and time, the story

757
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Speaker 2: louises some news. Okay, here's the question. Finally, what recent

758
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: or not so recent NBA memory has been clouded by

759
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: time or nostalgia or bias. Is there a game, a series,

760
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: or something else that you believe is remembered inaccurately? Love

761
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 2: you guys. Awesome. That's from Jordan in Portland. That's a

762
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: great email. What do you think tasks?

763
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Speaker 1: Now, this memory may not even be on anybody's mind

764
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: because they may not care. But the nine NBA Finals,

765
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: the Lakers won for one over the Orlanto Magic. But

766
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: I thought it was a lot closer than what happened

767
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: the Orlando Magic, Dwight at the peak of his powers,

768
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: Hido Turgulhu running their point because Jamiir was sort of

769
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: just getting back from injury, JJ Reddick, Richard Lewis, and

770
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: the fifth man on that starting lineup, Courtney Lee, who

771
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 1: factors in big. Lakers win Game one, it was a route.

772
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: Game two in La Courtney Lee got a beautiful lob

773
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Speaker 1: with their zero second on the clock. Kobe was just

774
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: blocked by Hido Turglu at the end inbound Hito Turgalou

775
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: lobs it to Courtneyly who's sort of under the rim.

776
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: It was a kind of a tough lob to catch,

777
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: but he could have just laid it in. He missed.

778
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: They go to overtime and they lose, so that was

779
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: the game winner right there. They could have won. They

780
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: could have gone up one one. Everybody sort of remembers that,

781
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: or they could have tied it one. I should say

782
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: everybody kind of remembers that when you think about that series.

783
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: Courtney Lee the mask on that he had. He misses

784
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: that shot, so they lose that one. But then they

785
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 1: go to Orlando. Orlando wins game three, and they could

786
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: have tied it up in game four. This one. People

787
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: forget Game four because it's not as heartbreaking as Courtneyly,

788
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: but it must have been his heartbreaking to Orlando Magic

789
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: because they're up three with eleven seconds left and Dwight

790
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: Howard going to the line to seal it just needs

791
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: to hit one. He goes clank, clank, and then Derek

792
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: Fisher of all people, ties the game to send it

793
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: to overtime, Lakers win and they go up three one,

794
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: so easily could have been three to one Magic going

795
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: to La or at the very least two to two

796
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: if Courtney Lee, you know, factor in Courtney's Lee's miss,

797
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: call it a miss. He also missed a possession before that,

798
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: which was just a bad possession by the Ortlanto Magic.

799
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: But it seems like a route in four to one,

800
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: but it was. It was a much much closer series,

801
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: and that was sort of the demise started the demise

802
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: of the Magic Enterprise right there.

803
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 5: A couple of huge plays by Hido right there.

804
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 4: That block it on Kobe is pretty incredible for a

805
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 4: guy that's not known as a defender. And then the pass,

806
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 4: you know, it's just a little bit low, but you know,

807
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 4: he still throws it about forty feet and it's a

808
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 4: tough lay up for Courtney Lee to make. But I

809
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 4: remember thinking the same thing, if that goes in, they

810
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 4: really got a chance here. So close, very similar I

811
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Speaker 4: think to the twenty twelve thunder who I was convinced

812
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 4: would have won the title of Kevin durankets the call

813
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 4: at the end of game two, they're up one zero already,

814
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 4: they're playing in Oklahoma City. It's ninety eight, ninety six,

815
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 4: thirteen seconds left. Lebron loses track of KD. Durant goes baseline.

816
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 4: He throws up a little fade away floater kind of thing,

817
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 4: and it really just thinks off the rim and Lebron,

818
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 4: you know, gives him a little bit of a bump.

819
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 4: He sort of reaches across KD as he's going baseline,

820
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 4: and at least back then, I remember thinking, oh, that's

821
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 4: definitely a foul on Lebron. You know, he was still

822
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 4: a villain of the league. That's for sure a foul.

823
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 4: They just rob the Thunder. There's no way the Thunder

824
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 4: are gonna be able to recover from this. It would

825
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 4: have been too zero. They're going to home court, you know,

826
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 4: the Heat are coming off a very tough playoff road.

827
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 4: They win four to one against the next then they

828
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 4: have to play the Pacers. That's a four to two series,

829
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 4: a close one, the famous Celtics series four to three.

830
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 4: If OKC is up to zero with another another two

831
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 4: games at home, you're looking good. But then I go

832
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 4: back and I watched the game last night, and I

833
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 4: watched this thing. I'm like, this is not even close.

834
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 4: To a foul on Lebron James and Kevin Durant would

835
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 4: no doubt go a lot stronger to the hole in

836
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Speaker 4: twenty eighteen twenty nineteen. You know now that he's an

837
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 4: older player, it's a little bit of a softy wafty

838
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 4: take there at the end of game two, because you know,

839
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 4: he's still in his first finals and he doesn't he's

840
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 4: not getting a call against Lebron James in the final

841
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 4: fifteen seconds of the game. So it definitely felt like

842
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 4: the Thunder could have won that title. But you watch

843
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 4: it back now and you're like, oh, yeah, the heat

844
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 4: were just better and there's no way that was a

845
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Speaker 4: file on.

846
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: Lebron technically a foul, I guess, but it's just one

847
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: of those at the end of games. You're not calling

848
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 1: that exactly, Lee.

849
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Speaker 6: What do you got, Well, just something speaking of the

850
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 6: last dance. I know it's kind of I guess it

851
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 6: gets talked about a lot. It is Jordan's Wizard's tenure.

852
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 6: People sort of make out as if Jordan was just

853
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 6: a scrub then, and that he was he was garbage,

854
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 6: but he was still a decent player. I mean, he

855
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 6: still put up decent numbers, had a couple of or

856
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 6: he had a one fifty point game anyway, but people

857
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 6: just like to sort of rag on that as if

858
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 6: like Jordan came back and he was just not even

859
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 6: you know, not even a shadow of in former self.

860
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 6: He played pretty well for a guy who was what

861
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 6: thirty eight when he came back, you know, I mean

862
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 6: the Wizards obviously didn't go on and make the playoffs,

863
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 6: which was only two times of his career. He didn't

864
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 6: make the playoffs, but his actual performance wasn't as bad

865
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 6: as it's made out to be.

866
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just looked like a normal basketball player. That's

867
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: the problem because because the consistency wasn't there. Yeah, he

868
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: would have a fifty point explosion every once in a

869
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: while or thirty or forty. But then he would he

870
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 2: would have which you never saw with Jordan on the balls,

871
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 2: was like a two point performance or a four point performance.

872
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: That was the Yeah, that was that wasn't him.

873
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was in the second the second season when

874
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 6: he did actually have some he did actually have some injuries,

875
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 6: but true in the in the first season, oh no,

876
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 6: sorry that was was that the first or second season?

877
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 6: I can't remember actually now, but but you know, I

878
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 6: mean you know he put up twenty three a game

879
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 6: in that first season back Like, that's not bad for

880
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 6: a thirty thirty eight year old guy. I mean, how

881
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 6: many guys would like to have those? Yeah, I mean

882
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 6: that's the thing he's putting out Demanda Rosen prime numbers.

883
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 2: When he's thirty eight.

884
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: Right.

885
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 6: I think Jordan gets into the Hall of Fame though, still,

886
00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 6: I think he deserved.

887
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: I think there's a chance. Yeah. I know you're a

888
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: trivia man, Skeets. You dropped the who wants some trivia

889
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: episodes here and you let us know last week that

890
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan had only two single scoring, single digit scoring

891
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: games when he was a member of the Chicago Bulls. See.

892
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: I was looking through that because I had seen a

893
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: stat that Lebron James surpassed him with consecutive double digit

894
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: point totals in terms of games, and Michael only did

895
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 1: it once. I don't know where you got your stat from, Michael,

896
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:33,479
Speaker 1: And I said ten.

897
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 2: Points, I said ten points are under. He had scored ten,

898
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 2: I believe, and he scored eight. All in the details, Tassie,

899
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: it's all in the detail ten or last yeah?

900
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 1: Nice?

901
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then he did it. I think what I

902
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 2: said eighteen times in his couple of Wizard's ears where

903
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: he didn't hit, you know, didn't score over ten. Crazy. Crazy.

904
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 2: My answer for this a little different than you guys.

905
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: I think I've talked about this before. I convinced myself

906
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: over time that Kobe's eighty one point game versus the

907
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 2: Raptors happened during the day. Like I just convinced myself

908
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 2: it was a day game. And I don't know how

909
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 2: that started. I guess it's because it's the six thirty

910
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: tip on the West coast, but that's nighttime when I'm

911
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 2: watching the damn thing, you know, in Toronto at the time,

912
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,479
Speaker 2: and nine thirty at night Eastern time. So I don't

913
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: know why I did that. I think a part of

914
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 2: it was because Kobe's eighty one versus the Raps was

915
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: the same day as the two championship games in the

916
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 2: NFL and so, and you know, so like suddenly a

917
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: guy scores eighty one, and like that's a bigger sports

918
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: headline than even you know, two of the biggest games

919
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: of the NFL season, Bigger than the Steelers beating the Broncos,

920
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: if you can believe it. So I think maybe I

921
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 2: thought he was doing it at the same time those

922
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 2: games were going on, because those would have been I assume,

923
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: you know, one in four pm starts. I don't know.

924
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: I just I just had convinced myself and I almost

925
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: still to this day, am like that happened during the day.

926
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 2: That's weird.

927
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,280
Speaker 6: It's weird because I've thought that as well in the Okay,

928
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 6: I don't know why. I don't know why. It just yeah,

929
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 6: it's really very weird that you bring that up, because

930
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 6: it's like, it just feels like it was a dy

931
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 6: game even though absolutely wasn't.

932
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like it feels to me like a

933
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: twelve thirty West Coast start right sore, like a day

934
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: game exactly like a three thirty start for me watching that.

935
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, like it's the raptor is in town. Just get

936
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 6: this game over and done with type of thing.

937
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 5: Yeah.

938
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially with the big NFL games on that.

939
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

940
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really weird. But all right, well here's the fun,

941
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 2: you know, because we're talking trivia so much. Steelers beat

942
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 2: the Broncos. Who is the NFC game? Do they don't remember?

943
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: Uh?

944
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: Cardinals, No, Rams, No, it's another bird though, Egs Falcons.

945
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: No, another Birds, Yeah.

946
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: Seahawks, Seahawks, Alexander beat the Hood.

947
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 5: You know, Seahawks over two.

948
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 4: Thousands, The Giants, Stealers, FI, the Carolina Panthers.

949
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: Oh, my second favorite Steve.

950
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 2: Smith exactly exactly, all right, excellent.

951
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: Hey all pull ups. Listening from Oxford, England. I've recently

952
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 1: found sweet Baby Rays as my new favorite. Sauce yes

953
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: and hearing skeets agree made me want to email it.

954
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: I got one for the classic who says No? Buddy

955
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: healed for al Horford Kings sixers, both on big, pretty

956
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: bad contracts, but with swapping teams make them less bad.

957
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: That's from Will f. Thanks for the email, Will.

958
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 5: Will Ferrell, big fan of the show. Love to hear it.

959
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 4: No surprise he's writing in about Buddy the elf King

960
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 4: say no. Though Buddy might be unhappy, he's younger, though

961
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 4: he's more in his prime. He's more on their timeline.

962
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 4: He's a modern player, and I think he's a vivid

963
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 4: round of DEBA favorite if I'm not mistaken. He saw

964
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 4: him as the next Steph Curry coming out coming out

965
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 4: of college, which is why the Kings were eventually able

966
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 4: to acquire him from the Pelicans. I think that you know,

967
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 4: his extension hasn't even kicked in yet until next season,

968
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 4: and he's gonna last another year longer than Horford. But

969
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 4: I think that Sacramento would prefer to take a chance

970
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 4: on repairing that relationship.

971
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: You know.

972
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 4: Obviously, Buddy seems to be a big part of their plan,

973
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 4: and I actually do like the matching of Al Horford

974
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 4: and Marvin Bagley. I think they would pair perfectly together.

975
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 4: I think that's a great guy for Bagley to learn from.

976
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 4: But I just don't see the Kings deciding that adding

977
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 4: an older guy in Al Horford is the way that

978
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 4: they really build.

979
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: For the future. I totally agree. Yeah, I think the

980
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 1: Kinks say no that they can't give up on Healed

981
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: at this point. I know locker room trouble. It didn't

982
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: like coming off the bench there for a while, and

983
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: the money was looking bleak in Sacramento after all that

984
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: money they spent on Trevor Reza and Dwayne Denman in

985
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,919
Speaker 1: the offseason, but they recovered pretty well trading both those

986
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: guys away for shorter term deals, and so there's not

987
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: a lot of money on the books after this year.

988
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: When Buddy's contract kicks in and he's the highest BT

989
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: player on the Sacramento Kings. It just doesn't make a

990
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: lot of sense to bring in Al Horford, although he

991
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: would be great for the locker room. I'm sure you

992
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: know we haven't seen good ol this season, and it

993
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: doesn't just doesn't jave. It just doesn't really make all

994
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: of sense. If you guaranteed that they could say, Bog

995
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: down Bogdanovich, if you treated buddyheld, maybe you think about it.

996
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: Probably not, I wouldn't do it.

997
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 6: See now think, Yeah, they're just at the wrong time

998
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 6: for Horford. I think if they were a little closer

999
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 6: to where they expected to be right now, perhaps you

1000
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 6: consider a move like this. But you've got Harry Giles

1001
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 6: as well as well as Mark Marvin Bagley. I mean,

1002
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 6: they want those big guys, so it's great to have

1003
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 6: Al there for that. But I just don't think Al.

1004
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 6: I actually, when I read this, I was like, yeah,

1005
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 6: Buddy healed on the Celtics. Buddy healed on the Celtics.

1006
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 6: Now hang on a minute, Oh my god. That I mean,

1007
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 6: I've been in quarantine too long. I forgot Al Horford

1008
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 6: was on the Sixers here, So yeah, I had to

1009
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 6: I had to sort of redo my thought process there.

1010
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean, look, that was a great player,

1011
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 6: but he needs to be on a team right now

1012
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 6: that he is contending for a championship, which the Sixers

1013
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 6: think they are. The Sixers are in a spot where

1014
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 6: the Kings, you know, would like to be that. They're

1015
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 6: not ready yet for that yet, but they're hoping to

1016
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 6: be in that position in a couple of years time.

1017
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean everyone loves big Alf, great player.

1018
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 6: Hasn't had the best season, of course, but I think

1019
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 6: he'd be the right player on the right team. It's

1020
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 6: just not the Kings right now. And Buddy, I mean Buddy,

1021
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 6: he's it was having a very good season and you know,

1022
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 6: he can really turn himself. I think there's an All

1023
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 6: Star Game in the in the distance for Buddy Hilt

1024
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 6: the way that he can play. He's just got to

1025
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 6: make sure that he doesn't get himself too worked up

1026
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 6: about getting in scraps. With the coaches and the front office,

1027
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 6: they're like, go out there and get those buckets because

1028
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 6: we know he can do it. That shot was looking

1029
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 6: pretty nice this season.

1030
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 2: You know, you not remembering that Horford is on the Sixers.

1031
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: That's a great idea for a podcast as we get

1032
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: closer to the return, hopefully of basketball coming back, like

1033
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 2: a podcast that just remains people, what the hell was

1034
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: going on? Yeah, you know mid March with the season

1035
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: and where we're at, and maybe like who's injured or

1036
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 2: who was back and all that. Like that'd be good

1037
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 2: for me as well, because I'm with you, there's a

1038
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 2: couple things that I've just completely forgotten about this year.

1039
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 2: So I mean we should bank that one. Well, we'll

1040
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: go through the go through the playoff teams at the

1041
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 2: very least and give you a little refresher. That could

1042
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: be one for the future. All right, next one, what's up?

1043
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 2: No donkeys?

1044
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 5: What?

1045
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 2: My wife and I just finished listening to Ethan Sherwood

1046
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 2: Strauss's amazing book Victory Machine. While listening, we had a

1047
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: conversation about how crazy it is that as fans we

1048
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 2: feel so comfortable criticizing every single aspect of a person's

1049
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: life because they might not be living up to the

1050
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 2: expectations that we have as complete strangers feel they should

1051
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: be portraying. In the end, it just kind of made

1052
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 2: the whole sports fandom thing seem very strange and almost uncomfortable.

1053
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 2: Has there ever been a time while covering the NBA

1054
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 2: that any of you have felt bad or queasy about

1055
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 2: how someone has been covered, whether that be a player,

1056
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: a coach, a front office person. Thanks for everything you've

1057
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 2: been doing over this last decade plus. My wife and

1058
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 2: I listened to every Beach Step in Pod together and

1059
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: you have helped her become more of a fan. That's

1060
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 2: from Nathan and Naomi. A good question tasks you ever

1061
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: felt bad queasy about how someone was covered in this lib.

1062
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: It is a good question. It definitely brought to mind

1063
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: Delante West from earlier this season when he was spotted

1064
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: on the road being beaten punched and had that video

1065
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: of him talking to a police officer where he's handcuffed,

1066
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: and the whole discussion about mental health and in the

1067
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: NBA was sparked, and really, I mean, it was just

1068
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 1: tough to watch Delante West that in that scenario and

1069
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: how difficult it was the way he was covered. I mean,

1070
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: there's obviously a lot of people who were, you know,

1071
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: throwing up the headline from the NBA to this and

1072
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: not really judging him as a as a person. And

1073
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: that's often what happens with NBA players. They're not people,

1074
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: they're just objects. They're just money making machines. And so

1075
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: that was a little tough to watch, but a lot

1076
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: of NBA players chiming in and trying to get him

1077
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: help from the NBPA that has been very vocal about

1078
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: mental health as we've discussed, including a guy we just

1079
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: talked about making the Hall of Fame, tomart Rosen, Kevin Love.

1080
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: And I'm sure I don't have any insight and information

1081
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: on this, but I'm sure the NBA did do what

1082
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: they could. I'm sure they reached out at the very

1083
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: least at that time earlier this year when that happened

1084
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: in the DC Maryland area. So that's the one that

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00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: was sparked by by me.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, when you really start thinking about the

1087
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: whole sports fandom, it is strange. It really really is.

1088
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 2: This is of course, coming from someone that's done this

1089
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 2: for like fifteen years, covering this whole sports fandom thing,

1090
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 2: and I catch myself at times, man, I'll be honest,

1091
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: like what, I don't know, what are we doing? And

1092
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 2: maybe that's with what's going on in today's world, and

1093
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 2: of course is like you know, we're having heated debates

1094
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: about getting rid of conferences and like doing World Cup

1095
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 2: group stage, and like it's fun. I think people are

1096
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 2: entertained listening to us talk about it. But you do go, well,

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00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 2: what are we what are we even talking about? Like

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00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 2: why do we why do you really care? Why do

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00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: we care? But this is sports, right, it's a it's

1100
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: a distraction for a lot of people, and it is fun.

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00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I catch myself from time to

1102
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 2: time going why the hell do I care? Or why

1103
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 2: do I even have an opinion on demorrow Rosy's Hall

1104
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 2: of Fame case. Well, well, this is what we do,

1105
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 2: and I enjoy it, and I guess enough people enjoy it,

1106
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 2: and you guys do, of course too, So that's where

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00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: we're at. But you can go down a weird, weird,

1108
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 2: sort of little rabbit hole when you start really wrapping

1109
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: your head around what the hell we're just doing here,

1110
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: and it can feel really inconsequential.

1111
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, there's no doubt about it. You know.

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00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 4: It's easy to go down the path of well, this

1113
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 4: doesn't actually matter, this doesn't actually matter. Wait, the whole

1114
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 4: thing doesn't matter, Our whole jobs don't matter. But then

1115
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 4: you then you realize that one hundred percent right skeets

1116
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 4: it is entertainment and entertainment matters to people, which I

1117
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 4: think is why it's funny that task brought up Dwight Howard,

1118
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 4: because to me, something that's always bugged me is criticizing

1119
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 4: the player who smiles too much, like it's a problem

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00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 4: that somebody would be happy doing something they love. You know,

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00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 4: Magic Johnson has five titles and three MVPs. That's one

1122
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 4: of the smiliest guys in the league. Steph Curry's a

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00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 4: smiley guy out there on the court. Lebron was his

1124
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 4: best when he got back to smiling. The heat struggled

1125
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 4: when he was an angry guy. It's okay to be happy,

1126
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 4: it's okay to play with joy.

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00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. Can we blame that on Michael Jordan? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, But even he smiled more than I think

1130
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 4: people would give him credit for.

1131
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true. It's just the narrative that we

1132
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 2: build up for sure. It's like, oh, you can't be

1133
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 2: having fun out there.

1134
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Speaker 1: This is war.

1135
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: You gotta win a championship and be an asshole to

1136
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 2: do it. It's like, no, not really. Lady of a

1137
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 2: response to this a good great email from Nathan and Olwen.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, just just you know, I think sometimes we look

1139
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 6: at any celebrity or athlete who's in the spot lot

1140
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 6: and you just think, well, they're rich and famous, so

1141
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 6: they've got no problems in the world. But everyone has

1142
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 6: to deal with life away from the cameras, and you know,

1143
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 6: whether that's kids or family or whatever it is, people

1144
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 6: have issues. And when you are an athlete and you're

1145
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 6: on the road and you're away from your family, it

1146
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 6: must make it very hard to deal with those same

1147
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 6: things that you know, we take for granted for those

1148
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 6: of us who have kids at home, and you know,

1149
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 6: we were able to be around our families a lot.

1150
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 6: So you know, I think sometimes when you see a

1151
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 6: guy and he has a bad game and we just go, man,

1152
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 6: that guy sucked. You know, my fantasy team needed him

1153
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 6: to play well. You just don't know exactly why they

1154
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 6: had a bad game, whether it was just a bad

1155
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 6: game or they're dealing with some issue that we'll never

1156
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,959
Speaker 6: know about. So you know, it's yeah, sometimes you feel

1157
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 6: bad when you criticize a player for having a bad performance,

1158
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 6: but you really don't know exactly what they're going through

1159
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 6: at the time, and you know, that's something that it

1160
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 6: would be I mean, would be good to know more

1161
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 6: so then you can maybe put some context to it.

1162
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 6: But of course it's none of our business either at

1163
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,479
Speaker 6: the same time, so you know, it's a fine line there.

1164
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 6: But we do demand and expect so much from our

1165
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 6: our players and our teams that when they don't perform,

1166
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,720
Speaker 6: we tend to sort of turn on them as well quickly.

1167
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 6: You know, Like people try to stay loyal and true

1168
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 6: to their team, but if they put in a bad

1169
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 6: performance or lose a playoff series, you know, people want

1170
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 6: guys traded and fired and moved on because they didn't

1171
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 6: satisfy us. But for all we know, they went out

1172
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 6: and played the best they could and it just didn't win.

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Speaker 6: And that's just the way it goes.

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Speaker 1: I'm just glad that we don't dig too deep into

1175
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 1: players marital status and dating status and all that, because

1176
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: that is a rabbit hole. My buddy Grish, your buddy Grish,

1177
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: everybody's buddy Grish was just talking to us about somebody's

1178
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: dating status with somebody and I didn't care. And you

1179
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: know that that whole sphere is get the heck out

1180
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Speaker 1: of my face.

1181
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 2: But that's something that but it's all where do you

1182
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 2: draw the line? Well, we have no problem talking about

1183
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 2: how skinny James Harden is.

1184
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Speaker 1: You know, It's like, yeah, I mean that affects this

1185
00:55:58,840 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: basketball performance.

1186
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 2: That's a guest, does it?

1187
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: We will see. Don't you think James Harden needs a

1188
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 1: butt to get people out of the way to get

1189
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: to the rev It's gonna be interesting. And this takes

1190
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: next emailer here brings up this this thing that we're

1191
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: gonna see down in Orlando. Most likely, Hey, layupers. If

1192
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: the NBA resumes without fans and no noise is pumped

1193
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: into the arena, do you think a team with a

1194
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 1: worse attendance would have an advantage? I checked the NBA's

1195
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 1: attendance report on ESPN, and out of the current playoff teams,

1196
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: the Nets have the worst attendance, along with the Pacers

1197
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: and Pelicans. What other teams might have an advantage if

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00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: games resume, since teams will be together day and night.

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Speaker 1: I think the Raptors would have an advantage due to chemistry.

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00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: Let me know what you got. That's from Judd in Kenora, Ontario, Canada. Lee,

1201
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 1: can we get a homer please? They're not gonna be

1202
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: together day and night. I mean.

1203
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 2: As a lock in.

1204
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: Trey, what do you think here?

1205
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 5: You touched on it yesterday.

1206
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 4: Tasks to me, the teams that are gonna be able

1207
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,439
Speaker 4: to pick up right where they left off, you would

1208
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 4: think are the ones that aren't super concerned with having

1209
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 4: a system.

1210
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Speaker 5: So obviously that's the Rockets play in ISO ball.

1211
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Speaker 4: You know, if Kyrie and Kadi were around for the Nets,

1212
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 4: that would be then and a team that I can't

1213
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 4: believe I'm saying this that I think is gonna be

1214
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 4: good coming back when the season resumes, the Oklahoma City Thunder,

1215
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 4: because they run a lot of ISO, they will run

1216
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 4: a lot of pick and roll. You know, Chris Paul

1217
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 4: is going to stay in shape during quarantine, and he's

1218
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 4: also going to be super clued in to the inner

1219
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 4: workings of the league and when things will actually be

1220
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 4: coming back that surely he'll be able to ramp up

1221
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 4: his training to be ready to go as.

1222
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 5: Soon as it's ready to go.

1223
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 4: So yeah, I've would actually feel pretty confident about the

1224
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 4: Thunder performing.

1225
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 2: Well, you got a little dark horse picked there in Okay.

1226
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 2: See I like that about Youlie.

1227
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 6: Well, I guess it's teams who have had injury concerns

1228
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 6: when the suspension happened, like Ben Simmons is a huge

1229
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 6: one there for the Sixers. He had a back problem

1230
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 6: that could have maybe knocked him out for the playoffs.

1231
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 6: But I think we heard a couple of weeks ago

1232
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 6: that he's probably going to be able to play if

1233
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 6: this goes ahead, So that could be great. The Sixers

1234
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 6: had a weird season because at times they looked great,

1235
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 6: other times they looked awful. But having this little break

1236
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 6: here it might have at least given Brett Brown and

1237
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 6: the coaching staff, they are a chance to try to

1238
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 6: figure some different things out, to try to see if

1239
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 6: they can utilize the skills of Embiid and Horford and

1240
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 6: Simmons a little bit better. So maybe they could come

1241
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 6: back and look pretty good if things work out. If

1242
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 6: they don't work out, then it could be a completely

1243
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 6: different team we see in Philadelphia next season. But this

1244
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 6: has given them a chance at least to sort of

1245
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 6: go over what was not working for them during the

1246
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 6: season and really try to focus on what was. Because

1247
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 6: we know defensively they're fantastic, there's no question about that,

1248
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 6: but offensively they just looked a little congested at times.

1249
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 6: So maybe this has given them a chance to try

1250
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 6: some new things or think of some new ideas that

1251
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 6: might open the floor up a little bit.

1252
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: I think Sixers will suffer not having a home court advantage.

1253
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: To sort of answer the emailers question from Judd from Kenora, Ontario, Canada,

1254
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: asking whether or not teams that have quiet arenas will

1255
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: benefit from playing in a quiet arena, I don't think

1256
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,439
Speaker 1: that's the case. I think every team will be good

1257
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: at playing basketball, but I think there are some guys

1258
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: that rely on the crowd juice a little bit more.

1259
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: A few guys I don't. I think it's just a

1260
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: handful of guys, and I think Joel Embiid is that

1261
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: kind of guy. I think Joel Embiid relies on that

1262
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: a little bit. And I think you see it in

1263
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: the Sixers home court to road court discrepancy. They're so

1264
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: bad on the road for a good team, and they're

1265
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: amazing at home. And so I wouldn't bet on the

1266
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: Sixers just because there's something going on there. And hey,

1267
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: maybe if they are together every moment of everyday, Judd,

1268
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: maybe that will help them on the road. Maybe this scenario,

1269
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: if it is different than a road scenario, a regular

1270
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: road scenario in the regular season where guys may or

1271
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: may not be hanging out. Maybe this is forces to

1272
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: hang them out. I don't. I don't think it forces

1273
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: them to hang out whatsoever. You still get your own

1274
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: hotel room, you still get your own PS four, I don't.

1275
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: I don't think it really matters. But on the court,

1276
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: I I can't wait to see what James Harden does

1277
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: in a scenario where they don't rely on on team

1278
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: ball and play I SOO ball, Like Trey was mentioning about, Okay,

1279
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: see if this can slip in a chance for the

1280
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: Rockets of the championship. But I think I think the

1281
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: sick I'm worried about the Sixers a bit as everybody

1282
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: sort of was going into the hiatus.

1283
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like really impossible to answer this because we

1284
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: don't know. We just have no idea what these guys,

1285
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 2: both physically and mentally are going to be like when

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Speaker 2: they return. I mean, that's it's just such a wild card.

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Speaker 2: I have no clue. I know, hopefully they're going to

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Speaker 2: get practices and getting together with their teams and start

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Speaker 2: training camp basically up again. I get all that, and

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Speaker 2: that's going to be needed because this it's it's obviously

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Speaker 2: unprecedented and it's gonna be weird, and I think the

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Speaker 2: basketball is gonna be quite frankly garbage. It's not gonna

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Speaker 2: be pretty, so, which is a whole other reason that

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Speaker 2: maybe some of these ideas, these group stages and these

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Speaker 2: as a smart distraction for you know, fan interests, because

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Speaker 2: I don't think the basketball itself is gonna be all

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Speaker 2: that all that well played and rightfully, so I'm not

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Speaker 2: I'm not not judging these guys. It's like, wow, holy crap,

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Speaker 2: you've just taken like we just got we just proved

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Speaker 2: I mean, like all we're asked to do and we

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Speaker 4: Good for any players, right Like, maybe the Hawks showed

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Speaker 1: Cool?

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Speaker 2: Will be like ten weeks something like that. I mean

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Speaker 2: I can't remember, so I'm sure they're just like us, like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: well yeah, that guy's on our team. Where that guy

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Speaker 2: is cool? That's cool? All right, we got a lot

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Speaker 2: week's Beach Step in podcasts and went from a massive

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Speaker 2: high to a crazy low in seconds. I'm half Portuguese

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Speaker 2: and half Swiss. When Skeets mentioned super back beer, I

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Speaker 2: felt really proud for no real reason. But right after

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Speaker 2: that Tas said Spain is the better Portugal, and I

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Speaker 2: got really upset. Was there a time where you went

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Speaker 2: from a massive eye to a massive low or maybe

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Speaker 2: the other way around. That's from Louis Martin's.

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Speaker 6: I'll Go First here. It was about two years ago,

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Speaker 6: I guess. I was leaving for the NBA Finals, and

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Speaker 6: on that same day in the Turner Studios that were

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Speaker 6: shooting a feature on the nineteen eighty eight NBA Finals,

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Speaker 6: and I didn't realize. I knew Isaiah Thomas was involved,

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Speaker 6: but I didn't realize John Sally was also going to

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Speaker 6: be a part of it, and so was James Worthy.

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Speaker 2: Now I have two.

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Speaker 6: We had two James Worthy posters on the Starter's office there,

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Speaker 6: and I was like, awesome, James Worthy. I'll get a photo.

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Speaker 6: I'll get a great gram out of it, I'll get

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Speaker 6: an autograph.

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Speaker 2: This would be great.

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Speaker 6: But my flight left at like my pickup for the

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Speaker 6: airport was like twelve o'clock, and they started filming at

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Speaker 6: like eleven thirty. And it was a Tuesday, and we

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Speaker 6: were doing our like Twitter show thing, and so by

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Speaker 6: the time that finished, they had already started shooting and

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Speaker 6: they weren't going to be out for like a couple

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Speaker 6: of hours. And I had to go to the airport

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Speaker 6: and I missed out. So I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 6: I'm going to get James Worthy here. And then when

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Speaker 6: I came out, I was like, it was too late.

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Speaker 2: I missed him.

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Speaker 6: I never saw him. I never saw him again. So

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Speaker 6: I had two unsigned posters of James Worthy. I couldn't

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Speaker 6: believe it. I was on that flight all the way over.

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Speaker 6: I was like, how can I how did this happen?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: How did this happen? I got a ah.

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Speaker 6: Man, I'm still upset about that now. Actually just thinking

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Speaker 6: about it.

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Speaker 4: Did you say you were flying to San Francisco. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's a long flight to be stealing over.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know.

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Speaker 6: Luckily missus Doubtfire kept me good spirits, but I was

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Speaker 6: just so excited to know James Worthy was there and

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Speaker 6: then just like bummed that I couldn't get into sign

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Speaker 6: my posters.

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Speaker 3: I still get roasted on Twitter for this. You're complaining

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Speaker 3: about having to fly to the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 6: Feel sorry for me, jd Please, I've had those posters

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Speaker 6: in my possession for like thirty years, so you know,

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Speaker 6: I mean.

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Speaker 2: What thinking you were always going to get them signed?

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Speaker 6: But at some point I was like, I'm going to

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Speaker 6: get James Worthy to sign this. You know that's that's

1442
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Speaker 6: that's likely to happen, and I just, oh my god,

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Speaker 6: I could not believe it. Devastating, devastating. I'm not sure

1444
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Speaker 6: I'll be able to recover from this one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you did a good job of getting your memorabilia

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Speaker 1: autographed by the greats.

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Speaker 6: Isaiah, Kevin McHale, Brian Shaw.

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Speaker 2: Drop off there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well you know.

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Speaker 2: Well what you're gonna tell me he's a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 6: Now, how many championship did Brian Shore end up with

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Speaker 6: you got a couple.

1453
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Speaker 2: I think you definitely got a.

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Speaker 1: Couple lakers at the end, you missed the Celtics.

1455
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Speaker 2: Run and when also an answer where they went from

1456
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Speaker 2: a massive high to a massive lower the other way around.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me jump in with the email or claiming

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Speaker 1: that I said Spain is the better Portugal. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm okay with my decision. In saying that, I'm totally

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Speaker 1: okay with it. I stuff a couple of my Portuguese friends,

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Speaker 1: my buddy Dave, another Dave and my buddy Decio. But

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Speaker 1: I also on the other side, got a great suggestion

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Speaker 1: for a beer because I have had a nice Australia beer,

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Speaker 1: and an emailer by the name of Carlos email then

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Speaker 1: he said, have you tried the Australia Halika or gallica

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Speaker 1: whatever it's called. I haven't had it yet. I haven't

1467
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Speaker 1: had that type quite yet. So I'm really pumped about that.

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Speaker 1: Pissed off some pissed off some can't go to Portugal,

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Speaker 1: but really pleased some others. So you know, you know

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Speaker 1: I'm playing. I'm playing my card's right. I think I've

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Speaker 1: been to Spain. I loved it.

1472
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Speaker 2: Wow and doubling down on his heat for portuge.

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Speaker 1: I never said that. I never said that. I want

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Speaker 1: to see. I really want to see the Rinaldo bust

1475
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: in person. Then I'm gonna leave.

1476
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Speaker 2: I love it. You gotta you gotta take a stance.

1477
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Speaker 2: You gotta take a stance. I love it, Trey.

1478
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 4: My biggest swing from high to low was Do and

1479
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Speaker 4: Sea balls off the high dive a couple of years ago.

1480
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Speaker 5: I went up there.

1481
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 4: I was like, all right, Laura, get the camera out,

1482
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 4: put it on slowmall, let's see how this first one goes.

1483
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 4: And I crushed it, just perfect form, the perfect landing.

1484
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 5: I was like, all right, let's get crazy.

1485
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Speaker 4: We're gonna really turn it out here, Laura, get the camera,

1486
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 4: put it on SLOWMA went back up, landed flat on

1487
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Speaker 4: my balls.

1488
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Speaker 5: The second time.

1489
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, fifteen feet up, just a flat landing.

1490
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Speaker 4: I was like, well, I guess I'm done on the

1491
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 4: high dive for today. At least we got that one

1492
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Speaker 4: in the can. Oh my goodness, just a nice little

1493
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Speaker 4: oh right on the boys.

1494
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Speaker 2: I think you manscaped too, That's right.

1495
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Speaker 2: JD. Have you ever had a Tony on Survivor forty

1498
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 2: moment where he went from a massive id to a

1499
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 2: massive loan emer where he thought he was getting the

1500
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 2: advantage and he was gonna be able to do some damage,

1501
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 2: and then he finds out Nope, this is being played

1502
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 2: on you. This extortion doesn't classic moment.

1503
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 3: Now, I always go in and everything with very low expectation.

1504
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 3: I'm generally a curmudgeon, so I go from low to

1505
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 3: high A lot. That happens a lot. I'm always pleasantly surprised.

1506
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 3: Every time I leave the house. I'm pleasantly surprised that

1507
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 3: I didn't you get killed, or didn't have a confrontation

1508
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 3: with one of my neighbors. So yeah, I'm good, and

1509
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,440
Speaker 3: yeah that rarely happens.

1510
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 2: That's nice. I guess life advice, would you leave the

1511
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 2: house have super low expectations right next one?

1512
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 5: Hey?

1513
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 2: No dunk Reno's last year. During the Raptor's playoff run,

1514
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 2: I was heading to a bar to meet a couple

1515
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 2: of friends to watch the game when my buddy Nino

1516
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 2: texted the group chat, Hey is it cool if I

1517
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 2: bring vernon? This guy I met on a work trip.

1518
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 2: We've been talking hoops and he asked to tag along.

1519
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 2: I said sure, more the marrier, not really thinking much

1520
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 2: of it. Cut to a half an hour later and

1521
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 2: Vernon walks through the door. Immediately I recognized him as

1522
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 2: the infamous mo Vernie whoa thanks to my years of

1523
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,679
Speaker 2: listening to the podcast. I thought it might be weird

1524
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 2: if I revealed to him about how much I already

1525
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 2: knew about him, so I kept quiet about it. My

1526
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 2: question is, has there ever been a time you've met

1527
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 2: somebody for the first time and had been forced to

1528
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 2: play it really cool or pretend you know less about

1529
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 2: them than maybe you do. Maybe it's a minor internet celebrity,

1530
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 2: or maybe it's just a friend of a friend who

1531
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 2: you're a little embarrassed to have learned a lot through

1532
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 2: a lot about through Osmoses on social media. Thanks for

1533
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,719
Speaker 2: all the hours of quarantine entertainment that's from young.

1534
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1535
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:34,719
Speaker 3: Any celebrity that I meet I always want to play down,

1536
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 3: like write, no matter what did I ever tell you

1537
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 3: about that time I met Sting.

1538
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 2: As I told that story, I don't think so.

1539
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously not a minor celebrity, but I did

1540
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 3: try to play it cool, and I met him for

1541
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 3: fifty eight seconds one time. And I know this because

1542
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 3: I was I worked at the CN Tower when I

1543
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 3: was in high school and I was operating one of

1544
01:12:56,320 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 3: the elevators and I was at the outdoor observation deck

1545
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 3: and that's where you picked people up to go down.

1546
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 3: And there was Sting and he had his son with him,

1547
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 3: I think, and his publicist and a couple of other people,

1548
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:13,719
Speaker 3: and they just came on and it was a VIP.

1549
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:17,600
Speaker 3: Nobody else was getting on this elevator. So I was

1550
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 3: just like, Holy, that's Sting. But I played it cool

1551
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 3: and I trotted out my my a material for the

1552
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 3: ride down, because you see, you're supposed to have a

1553
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 3: speech is when you go up and you go to right,

1554
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 3: and this is what it was. Well, I hope you

1555
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 3: enjoyed the view from the world's tallest freestanding structure. We

1556
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 3: are currently traveling back back down to the ground at

1557
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 3: the same speed you went up at twenty feet or

1558
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 3: six meters per second. That's about the same speed as

1559
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:50,679
Speaker 3: a parachute following. So when we reached the ground, kindly

1560
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:56,719
Speaker 3: bend your knees, tuck and roll, stun silence like just

1561
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 3: staring at me. Usually it killed I mean I think

1562
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 3: they thought I was serious.

1563
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, like we're gonna lose Sting here.

1564
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, so and usually what that would the laughter would

1565
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 3: last about you know, five to ten seconds out of

1566
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 3: the fifty eight seconds. But I had nothing else to nothing,

1567
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 3: So we just got to the bottom and the door's

1568
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 3: opened and they walked out, and that was that was

1569
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 3: my Sting.

1570
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 2: And while he was walking off in the distance, You're

1571
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 2: like Shaggy would.

1572
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 1: Have laughed, Oh.

1573
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 2: Wow, the time you met Sting in the c And

1574
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 2: Tower elevator. That's how we never heard that story. No

1575
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 2: wonder you have such low expectations. Now every time you

1576
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 2: leave your house you meet Sting in an elevator, you

1577
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 2: ever gonna do better than that?

1578
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 3: I was actually very annoyed when I when they came on,

1579
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 3: there was like I said, maybe six people max. And

1580
01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 3: the the lineup to go down was in saying like

1581
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 3: the weight to go down was at least a half hour.

1582
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 2: Oh you were judging Sting right away.

1583
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,759
Speaker 3: I was just like, who's this guy? He definitely didn't

1584
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:13,679
Speaker 3: pay to get up. He's a millionaire many times over.

1585
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 3: He didn't pay to go up. He didn't have to

1586
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 3: stand in line, and he didn't have to stand in

1587
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 3: line to go down. At least we could have put

1588
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 3: everybody else in the like the it holds twenty people, so,

1589
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 3: you know, I just was like, this is this is

1590
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 3: bull man?

1591
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 1: Why are you come on?

1592
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 3: Come on?

1593
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 5: Come on?

1594
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 2: JD.

1595
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 5: Sting is on record saying he hates when people stand

1596
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:34,640
Speaker 5: close to him. Shouldn't come on.

1597
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point.

1598
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 2: Oh man, all right? Can anyone do better than that?

1599
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 6: I don't know, uh not really. But actually at that

1600
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 6: same finals, I was answering in the last question.

1601
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 2: I was standing.

1602
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 6: It was media day there and Doris Burt came walking

1603
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 6: out and we made eye contact and she sort of

1604
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 6: mouthed hello, and I was like, oh my god, did

1605
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 6: Doris Burke just say hello? I'm looking around like who

1606
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 6: she talked to?

1607
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 5: But it was me.

1608
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 6: There was no one behind me, so I had to

1609
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:09,480
Speaker 6: like quickly try to say with that, ah, hey, Doris

1610
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 6: like that. While inside I was just like nervous as anything.

1611
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 6: I was like, oh my god, that's Doris burg It

1612
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 6: was incredible. And I'm not sure if she just thinks

1613
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 6: I ignored her or not, you know, because there was

1614
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 6: a second or two there between my response. So but

1615
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 6: fortunately it was Okay. We did see each other later

1616
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 6: on and we talked a little bit, But in that

1617
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 6: one time, I was just like, oh, man, did I

1618
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 6: just sort of snub Doris Burg. That's like the worst

1619
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 6: thing I could possibly do.

1620
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 2: But we're cool.

1621
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 1: We're cool now, Okay, I'll throw one in here of

1622
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 1: the weird story department. I saw Rachel McAdams, the great

1623
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 1: Rachel McAdams, at a bar in Toronto, and I had

1624
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 1: just been tweeting at her, no joke, but not as

1625
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,799
Speaker 1: my We were tweeting about enjoying peanut butter on toast,

1626
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: no joke. We shared that bond, but I wasn't tweeting

1627
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 1: as myself. I was tweeting as a young boy, a

1628
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 1: young boy. I was I was working for I was.

1629
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 1: I was upping the social media profile of a young

1630
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: boy who was doing philanthropic work in Africa. This is

1631
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:21,719
Speaker 1: a joke. He's trying to get footwear on kids in Africa.

1632
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 1: This kid had done more in his life than I

1633
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 1: ever have or ever will. He was eight or nine.

1634
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 1: I forget his name. I'm going through emails. You're trying

1635
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 1: to figure out, trying to find this the name of

1636
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 1: this kid. But I saw Rachel from Afar, and I

1637
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 1: didn't meet her, so I'm not really answering the question.

1638
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 1: I didn't go up to her, but it was really weird.

1639
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 1: I had just been tweeting at her from an account

1640
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 1: whose profile is the face of a young lad, a

1641
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 1: young Canadian lad who's a great kid. And it didn't.

1642
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: It didn't last my relationship, both with Rachel McAdams and

1643
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 1: with this kid. It was just it was a quick,

1644
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:02,839
Speaker 1: short run as he was trying to up his profile

1645
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 1: on social media, and hopefully he he did lots for

1646
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 1: those kids in Africa. But strange stuff, strange stuff in

1647
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 1: my twenties, just taking jobs here, taking jobs there. And

1648
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: that's looking through my emails though, trying to find the

1649
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 1: name of this kid. It was. It was the two

1650
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,600
Speaker 1: thousands here early whatever, it was five or six or

1651
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 1: seven o eight, somewhere in that realm. I got an

1652
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 1: email from my buddy Grish who says, our test can

1653
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,560
Speaker 1: easily score twenty a game in Toronto. He's got the

1654
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 1: d we need against good perimeter players. Back when we

1655
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,520
Speaker 1: all emailed each other about basketball.

1656
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 2: Was was the Rachel McAdams sighting at the Horseshoe Tavern

1657
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 2: in Toronto. Yes, sir, Yeah, yeah, I remember that because

1658
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 2: I only remember that because I didn't see her and

1659
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 2: everyone else did see her, and that was really upset

1660
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 2: that I somehow, you know, I'd either go into the

1661
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 2: washroom where I was at the bar something was like,

1662
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 2: oh wow, could you believe that was Rachel mcadam's right

1663
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 2: there right Besides, I was like, what are you talking about?

1664
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 2: I missed her. It was like it was like a

1665
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 2: poke roo type of moment.

1666
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 1: So she was there to see Black Joe Lewis along

1667
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 1: with the rest of us.

1668
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right. It was great show. It's one

1669
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 2: of those shows. By the way, I just texted Mattio

1670
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 2: to see if he remembered the name of the young

1671
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 2: kid that you ran the Twitter account for. He's just

1672
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 2: responded with a hm, So he's thinking of it. He's

1673
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 2: thinking the three dots are blinking at me right now.

1674
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:26,719
Speaker 5: That's good will.

1675
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 4: He all for time a little bit here. Did you

1676
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,719
Speaker 4: are you bringing your own preferences to this social media

1677
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 4: manager job? Or was it told to you this kid

1678
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 4: loves peanut butter on tost make sure.

1679
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 5: You're looking in there if you can.

1680
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 1: Oh, total bull on. Yeah. I was just playing the

1681
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 1: celebrity game. Oh you like peanut Butter.

1682
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:51,600
Speaker 2: I've got a response from that.

1683
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 1: He's got it.

1684
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 2: This feels right to me in reading it, but to ask,

1685
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 2: maybe you'll know for sure the name Balal is in

1686
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 2: my head? Yeah, yes, yes. And then matt wrote, a

1687
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 2: kid who raised money by walking barefoot?

1688
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 1: Exactly right, memory, and he.

1689
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 2: Says, and then he then he laughed, Eddie go. And

1690
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 2: then Matts wrote, good for me if I just made

1691
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 2: that up?

1692
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, we think that's right. Yeah, no, A

1693
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 1: hundred percent sure I was. I wasn't He definitely he

1694
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 1: has remembered this story.

1695
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. Incredible memory. Incredible memory. All right, Oh boy, let's

1696
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 2: let's keep rolling here. We got a couple more.

1697
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 1: Danny Green is one of my favorite players to watch.

1698
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 1: I think it's cool that he has won a championship

1699
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:38,879
Speaker 1: with two different teams and now he has a realistic

1700
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 1: chance of winning another title with the Lakers. Who are

1701
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 1: some of your favorite role players who are able to

1702
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 1: win a championship with multiple teams. That's from Darnell Gieman,

1703
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:51,600
Speaker 1: an Orlando Magic fan in Helena, Montana.

1704
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 2: This is the one person out there that does want

1705
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 2: to bucks Magic. First round series in the playoffs, Thank

1706
01:20:58,120 --> 01:20:58,679
Speaker 2: you very much.

1707
01:20:59,320 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 5: Umm.

1708
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:02,839
Speaker 2: Is a good question. I'm gonna go with Sam Cassell

1709
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 2: for my answer. He won three titles. I had forgotten

1710
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 2: about the last one. I forgot he got one there

1711
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 2: with the Celtics, but he won two championships with the

1712
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 2: Rockets in his first two seasons in the league. You know, Sam,

1713
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 2: I am doing the big balls dance, and he was good.

1714
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 2: He like averaged ten and four in about twenty one

1715
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 2: minutes per game over those two you know, playoff runs

1716
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 2: for the Rockets. He was He played a part, and

1717
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 2: then again he bookend his career by winning a third

1718
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:31,639
Speaker 2: ring with the Celtics. He signed with them in March

1719
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 2: after being waived by the Clips, and he played for them.

1720
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 2: He wasn't as instrumental as those Houston Rockets championships, but

1721
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 2: he played in twenty one playoff games for them that year.

1722
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 2: So three titles for Sam Cassell one of my favorites.

1723
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 2: Just a unique look to that man, obviously a unique

1724
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 2: personality and the guy was not afraid of the big moments.

1725
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 5: So I'll go with him.

1726
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was good for them coming off the bench. Ironically,

1727
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 6: my answer is a teammate of Sam Cassell's in Houston.

1728
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 6: Mario Elli picked up three as well. He picked up

1729
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 6: two there with the Rockets and then got one with

1730
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 6: the Spurs in ninety nine coming off the bench. Classic

1731
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 6: role player, you know, a guy who kickuld come out,

1732
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 6: didn't play all that many minutes, didn't score a lot,

1733
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 6: but would always hit big shots and playing big moments.

1734
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 6: So I like, Maria, it's funny. He's got a funny caoreer.

1735
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:18,679
Speaker 6: Maria Eli, you think of you won the Warriors, the Rockets,

1736
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 6: the Spurs. I think he played Blazers or somewhere else

1737
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 6: as well. He seemed to bounce around a bit, but

1738
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 6: often made a contribution wherever he was.

1739
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:28,800
Speaker 4: Well, that's pretty funny that you bring it up, because

1740
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 4: my answer as a teammate of both Mario Ellie and

1741
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 4: Sam Cassell, Robert ORRII who won seven titles, you know,

1742
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,640
Speaker 4: just by always hitting clutch shots. And I think you

1743
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 4: kind of forget Robert Ori on the Rockets, how he

1744
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:45,599
Speaker 4: was young and athletic and you know, had the Sam

1745
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 4: Cassel big balls to take big shots even though he

1746
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 4: was a young guy in the league. But it's kind

1747
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 4: of funny when you look at all of the guys

1748
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 4: who have won multiple championships. It feels like they all

1749
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 4: played on the same team at some point. It's like,

1750
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 4: do you want to take John Sally he was part

1751
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 4: of the Lakers and the Pistons and the Balls. Do

1752
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 4: you want to take Robert Parrish? He was on the

1753
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 4: Balls at one point, and also the Celtics. You know,

1754
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 4: all of these guys who have multiple titles. It's like

1755
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 4: a dynastic teen season and says you've done it before,

1756
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:12,759
Speaker 4: you can help us out. And that's why they become

1757
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 4: more than glue. Guys that are like gorilla glue guys,

1758
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 4: you know, just even stronger and even stronger bond they bring.

1759
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 2: That stuff works. By the way, I broke in moving,

1760
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 2: I broke a wooden like wine wrack. It like smashed,

1761
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 2: fell out of the car, and like, I'm gonna try

1762
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 2: and put this back together with that gorilla glue. I

1763
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 2: hadn't really never used it. Oh, it's incredible, incredible bond.

1764
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 5: You're not kidding, You're not kidding. What an adhesive.

1765
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 2: I can't believe it. I feel very confident putting full

1766
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 2: wine botteles back on this thing, because I think the integrity,

1767
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 2: integrity of it is there. So, Okay, that was a

1768
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 2: weird ad for gorilla glue.

1769
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 1: But uh an answer, Well, my answer is flex seal.

1770
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 2: I love you slap it on.

1771
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 1: I don't like you know, I don't like trying TV products.

1772
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 1: But actually I have tried flex seal. That stuff is good.

1773
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 2: Does it work?

1774
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to think what I've done with it.

1775
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 5: Well, I'm sure you built a boat out of it,

1776
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 5: just like that.

1777
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: Guy slapping it on you. Right. Well, the base of

1778
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 1: my basketball net has a leak in it, so I've

1779
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 1: tried to flex seal that but that hasn't worked so well.

1780
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 1: But I have I have used it before and it

1781
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 1: does work. That's a bad endorsement of flex seal anyway.

1782
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 1: What about Ray Allen? Yeah, this is a cheat. This

1783
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 1: is a cheat. O. Wait with the Celtics. Not a

1784
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 1: role player, that's year twelve. But it is crazy to

1785
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 1: think that he was a role player while hitting that

1786
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 1: shot for the Miami Heat in twenty thirteen in game six.

1787
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 1: That's that's a year seventeen of his career. He's an

1788
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 1: old man by then in terms of basketball years, and

1789
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 1: he adapted so so well. Not a lot of all

1790
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 1: star players can do that but ten time All Star

1791
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 1: into that role, no problem at You know, it's thirty

1792
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 1: six thirty seven season there, so I'm.

1793
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 2: All star right Wow? Yeah, I think I would have

1794
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,640
Speaker 2: had them that high.

1795
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 4: Wow.

1796
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 2: That's incredible. All right, Next one, gentlemen. Firstly, congratulations on

1797
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 2: your webby. The people have spoken, which kind of leads

1798
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 2: to my question, is there some legal or logistical reason

1799
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 2: you haven't jumped on the merchandising bandwagon hoping to see

1800
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 2: more No Dunks merch soon. That's from ROBERTA from Pakistan.

1801
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 2: No from Elizabeth. That's what Elizabeth ps. If you go

1802
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 2: with the underwear thing as part of the merchandise, please

1803
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 2: make it available for men and women. You know, we

1804
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 2: talked about doing a wedgie underwear, so we'll have to

1805
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 2: make it available for men and women. That's what Elizabeth says.

1806
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 6: There's nothing women would love more than underwear designed for

1807
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 6: women by five dudes.

1808
01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 2: Well, Elizabeth says, that's exactly what you want. But yeah,

1809
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:03,640
Speaker 2: why know, I mean, we do have some you can

1810
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 2: go to No Dunks dot com. You can get your

1811
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 2: t shirts right now. But Trey, why do you answer this?

1812
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 2: You sort of lead up our merchandising department.

1813
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why.

1814
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 4: That's the logistical reason, because it's us that are doing it.

1815
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 5: You know, we got busy lives.

1816
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 4: I've kind of been operating on a one shirt per

1817
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 4: season timeline here. You know, we had our fall shirt,

1818
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:27,640
Speaker 4: the first one we had, our winter shirt was our

1819
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 4: All Star shirt, and we will have another one coming

1820
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 4: out and not too long. Congratulations on our Webby. Congratulations

1821
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 4: on our Webby shirt. This one's a banger. People will

1822
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 4: like it.

1823
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 5: But I don't know.

1824
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 4: I think this is actually a question for the fans,

1825
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 4: what other stuff do you want? Does Elizabeth really want

1826
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 4: some no Dunk's wedgie underwear? We could make it. Does

1827
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 4: anybody want to break? We could figure out a way

1828
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 4: to do it. I do think we should do basketball

1829
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 4: shorts somehow, But you know, I mean I also, you know,

1830
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 4: I don't like just constantly taking money from everybody who's

1831
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 4: listening to our show. Uh, you know, I don't want

1832
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 4: to just be like, hey, here's another shirt by it,

1833
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 4: Here's another shirt by it, here's another shirt by it.

1834
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 4: I want you to want it. Call me cheap trick.

1835
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 4: I want you to want me shirts. But there's got

1836
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 4: to be other stuff out there that people would like.

1837
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 4: Our printers have showed us like a mini basketball rim.

1838
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 4: That's pretty cool that we could do. But yeah, it's

1839
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 4: just a matter of what people actually want. So honestly,

1840
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 4: let us know.

1841
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good, good, good ask there from the

1842
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 2: people out there. Email us no dunks at the Athletic

1843
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 2: dot com or tweet atis Oh no dunk. I can't

1844
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 2: even talk anymore. Let's get to this final question. My

1845
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 2: mouth is so damn dry.

1846
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 1: What do you think about underwear? Though?

1847
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 2: I actually have a lot of thoughts about it, but

1848
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 2: I can't talk right now anymore. We've gone too long here.

1849
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 1: All right, let's close her up now that Game of

1850
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 1: Zones is done forever. What fandom do you want to

1851
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 1: see an NBA universe mash up with? That's from Adam R.

1852
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 1: Boyd on Twitter. So yeah, Game of Zones was fantastic.

1853
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 1: I guess it's come to an end.

1854
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 2: I didn't realize it's kind it is done, is done,

1855
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:02,759
Speaker 2: and like, I don't really have an answer to the question,

1856
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 2: but I did want to address Game of Zones because

1857
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 2: in that series finale, in the final episode ever, we

1858
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 2: all got a little excited because we thought for a

1859
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 2: second that we were you know, we were in it.

1860
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 2: We were a cartoon version within the Game of Zones.

1861
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 2: There was a scene where was like these two little

1862
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 2: farmers out in the field talking to Lebron James King James,

1863
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 2: and I don't know about you guys, but I was

1864
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 2: convinced I was one of the characters. It looked identical

1865
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 2: to me. And then it was like, maybe that other

1866
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 2: guy is Task, but it didn't really look like Tass

1867
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 2: all that much. And then people are like, oh, maybe

1868
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 2: it's Trey. The guy also has a beer. But it

1869
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:43,640
Speaker 2: was like a little confusing, but I was like, well,

1870
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 2: that's gotta be me that guy. Turned out it wasn't.

1871
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 2: In the end, it was the creators of Game of

1872
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:53,639
Speaker 2: Zones put themselves in their own damn show. That makes

1873
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:56,680
Speaker 2: a lot more sense than it just being me and

1874
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 2: maybe Tass out there in the field.

1875
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 4: I thought it was you, and then an amalgamation of

1876
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 4: the rest of us there like this could be any

1877
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 4: of the other guys.

1878
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I could see that, So I was I

1879
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 2: guess that's my answer for h went from a massive

1880
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 2: high to a massive low very quickly. Really, all I

1881
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:15,800
Speaker 2: learned was I looked a lot like one of the

1882
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 2: co creators that game a zodes because again, you see

1883
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 2: this thing and tell me it's not me, it's pretty wild.

1884
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, but I don't have an answer. Maybe JD,

1885
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 2: is there another fandom you want to see sort of

1886
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 2: a mashup of?

1887
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 1: You know?

1888
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 3: I mean the obvious would be the Marvel universe, just

1889
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 3: because there's so many characters and so much you can

1890
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 3: do with it. But I think that there have been

1891
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 3: comic slash NBA stuff before. Now, yeah, what about the Sopranos?

1892
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 5: That was on my list for sure?

1893
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's not very timely, but but it's

1894
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 3: just it's just great and and and as the as

1895
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,719
Speaker 3: it whittles down to the to the finals, there's there's

1896
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 3: just guys getting hit left and right and yeah, getting

1897
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 3: whacked on the on the Sopranos, So that could be

1898
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 3: pretty cool.

1899
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 2: Who's Tony Soprano?

1900
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 1: Then?

1901
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:06,679
Speaker 2: Probably lebron I would yeah, probably.

1902
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe it's not timely, but I also feel like

1903
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 4: it has certainly stood the test of time. It feels

1904
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 4: like so many people are rewatching the Sopranos right now,

1905
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,760
Speaker 4: whereas Game of Thrones ended one year ago and everybody's

1906
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 4: basically happy to be done with it, you know, so

1907
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 4: I also think that, like the therapy scenes will be

1908
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:28,680
Speaker 4: great scenes for an NBA mash up, right, Like, I

1909
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 4: don't know if it ends up being Lebron is Tony Soprano,

1910
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 4: he's talking to Michael Jordan giving him advice or something

1911
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 4: like that, there could be something funny that.

1912
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 3: There's definitely something there.

1913
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, from that era and talking about Lebron, I could

1914
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 1: see a wire mash up, you know, the King State,

1915
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,719
Speaker 1: the King come out, the King Best not miss. There's

1916
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 1: got to be a kid's season in there, a young

1917
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 1: team in the NBA. Maybe the Grizzlies can be the

1918
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 1: the kids season. There's a mash up there, a lot

1919
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 1: a lot of killing though, a lot of murders. Maybe

1920
01:30:56,520 --> 01:31:01,639
Speaker 1: stay away from that Game of Thrones they did, Yeah,

1921
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 1: they did. They depict a lot of that stuff.

1922
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 2: I don't know. I was a weird Game of Zones watcher,

1923
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 2: Like I would watch like the odd episode here and there,

1924
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 2: but I never was like, oh, new one is out,

1925
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 2: let's pick it up right from last week. I just

1926
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 2: never I never consumed the show. There obviously were thousands

1927
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 2: of people that did that and really loved it, and

1928
01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 2: every time I watched it, I was like this is hilarious,

1929
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:25,639
Speaker 2: Like they did such a great job. There's so many

1930
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 2: little funny like Easter eggs in it, and of course

1931
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:30,599
Speaker 2: like little throwaway jokes and stuff like that. Well written,

1932
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 2: well produced. But yeah, I don't know. I don't know

1933
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 2: if there was a ton of like yeah, killing, I

1934
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 2: don't I don't think a good question.

1935
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 4: I watched every episode, but it was doing high speed

1936
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 4: scrubbing to see if we showed up in the background

1937
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 4: of anything. So no idea what actually happened in the plot,

1938
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:47,639
Speaker 4: but I know we weren't in there.

1939
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, maybe I got killed in episode one, just

1940
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:54,880
Speaker 2: missed it. We went too fast. Uh, anything you want

1941
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:56,679
Speaker 2: to see mashed up or test anybody else?

1942
01:31:57,040 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 6: This is not my strength of spots. No, really, what

1943
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:01,920
Speaker 6: do you mean?

1944
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 2: Because you just don't know shows.

1945
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 6: I mean I don't really watch any shows that I

1946
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 6: want to sort of, you know, see intertwined with the NBA.

1947
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 2: You know what about like American Adole or something.

1948
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 5: The voice the voice, I don't know.

1949
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:19,080
Speaker 6: I mean Victor Oladipa will probably win that and Litti

1950
01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 6: it would come second. Man, Maybe that'd be a different

1951
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 6: sort of final. Yeah, it's seeing those two battle completely

1952
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 6: two different music genres, like.

1953
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 2: What about all your cricket. Cricket world with the NBA

1954
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 2: doesn't need to be a show.

1955
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, maybe not.

1956
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 2: Let's just call it there, all right. You didn't have

1957
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 2: an answer, No, I just got upset. I wasn't in

1958
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 2: game of I made that clear, all right? What about

1959
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 2: this then, Shark Tank? What about that?

1960
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 6: LBA players have to pitch ideas and u and who

1961
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 6: can become the best businessman? There you go.

1962
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:59,320
Speaker 2: See that's not bad. Now you've got you got Adam

1963
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 2: Silver as one of the guys. Yeah, yeah, Michelle Roberts.

1964
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 6: Maybe Mark Cuban is a natural of course. Yes, right,

1965
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 6: there's been I mean, Alex Rodriguez has been a shock

1966
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:15,599
Speaker 6: in the past, mister Murray Shower pav has been a shock.

1967
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 5: So Fergie, I feel like she would be great as.

1968
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, yeah, why not?

1969
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 5: Why not? Yeah?

1970
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 6: I think there's something there. Now I'm went to something.

1971
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:27,880
Speaker 6: I'm gonna think about it, flush it out a little

1972
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 6: bit more.

1973
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 2: You got your second book? Yeah, alright, got kid emails coming.

1974
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 2: No dunks at the Athletic dot Com, tweet at us

1975
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 2: at no dunks ink hashtag no dunks coming up for

1976
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 2: the rest of the week, a very chill rest of

1977
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 2: the week because of JD popping those Sundays scaries on Thursday. Well,

1978
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 2: I can't believe it, say what, say what back in

1979
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 2: our Lives task? Is it true?

1980
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 1: Well JD just said it, so must be. Got no

1981
01:33:57,200 --> 01:33:58,680
Speaker 1: choice now, JD. Here you go.

1982
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 2: And Friday's film Session, we're watching and reviewing Space Jam.

1983
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:09,559
Speaker 2: Zach Harper from The Athletic is going to be one

1984
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 2: of our guests on that podcast. Yeah, the people have

1985
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 2: spoken they want Space Jam, despite a lot of us

1986
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 2: not caring for that movie all that much.

1987
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 4: So fifteen years of people asking us to watch Space

1988
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:25,679
Speaker 4: Jam and it all culminates Friday.

1989
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 2: Man, believe it.

1990
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 6: It won't be the worst movie that we've watched though

1991
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 6: for this So that's okay with me.

1992
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 2: Why do you say that, hey, Bud, No.

1993
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 3: Budd, you're saying Airbud is better than Space Jam.

1994
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 6: No, I'm saying, I'm saying Space Jam won't be the

1995
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 6: worst movie, the worst movie.

1996
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1997
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying, yeah, I'm talking Space Jam. Come on, yeah, yeah,

1998
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:50,679
Speaker 2: dogs talented. Now all right, so that's Friday's film session.

1999
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 2: Everybody's got to watch Space Jam and again we'll have

2000
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 2: Zach Harper on to talk about that movie tomorrow. Say

2001
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 2: what should be fine?

2002
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:58,639
Speaker 5: Cliver Rose, you heard it here first, have a great time,

2003
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:00,719
Speaker 5: turn up. Love you guy, awesome.

2004
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. And remember there's no long board

2005
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 1: e mooji, that's weird.

2006
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 2: Embrace the day people.

2007
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 3: You could say oooh every day and dad, you happy

2008
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:16,639
Speaker 3: every minute.

2009
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 1: It's been so long that your do wanna waiting for.

2010
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 1: It's happened already. It's gonna be grevy