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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live presented by Calledlida Health.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into One Bill's Live. It's Wednesday, July nineteenth.

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Speaker 3: That means we are one.

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Speaker 2: Week away from the first training camp practice. Actually, by

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Speaker 2: this time, the guys will be wrapping up with practice,

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Speaker 2: probably eating lunch and getting ready for afternoon meetings. Mattie

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Speaker 2: glab here alongside Steve Tasker today is Chris Brown is

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Speaker 2: out for the weekend. The rookies were hoarded yesterday. The

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Speaker 2: training room was busy, the weight room was busy. You

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Speaker 2: could see some of the guys are starting to file

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Speaker 2: back in to the office and get ready to go

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Speaker 2: for training camp at Saint John Fisher University. The veterans

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Speaker 2: will report a few days after the rookies. Really the

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Speaker 2: day before is when they have to report, but a

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Speaker 2: lot of the guys will come back even before that

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Speaker 2: to kind of get things rolling and ready to go.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, first practice in one week? Are we ready?

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Speaker 4: I am? Of course, I don't have to be in

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Speaker 4: shape or anything like that either, But yeah, I think

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Speaker 4: it's everybody in the whole league. You can just feel

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Speaker 4: at all the all the media outlets from every NFL city,

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Speaker 4: the players, everybody's just like.

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Speaker 3: Where's just waiting, We're hanging around.

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Speaker 4: Let's go. You know, it's time to and it's this

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Speaker 4: this last month. We've joked about it for a couple

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Speaker 4: of weeks. Place has been vacant, and everybody takes that

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Speaker 4: last little break because you know, even us, we don't

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Speaker 4: take a snap all year. But once that season starts,

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Speaker 4: let's go. All hands on deck, let's go, and the

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Speaker 4: whole building buzzes all day every day. The players are

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Speaker 4: turns up and it becomes football season, and that's we're

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Speaker 4: on that. One week, we're on that routine, that week

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Speaker 4: at a time, routine it's going to be, although the

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Speaker 4: routine isn't going to be a routine this year with

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Speaker 4: the way the Bills schedule fell.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, Monday nighter to open the season against the Jets. Oh,

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Speaker 2: that's going to be an amazing game. Speaking of playing

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Speaker 2: against the Jets, they are going to be on hard

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Speaker 2: knocks this season, and there have been some reports that

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Speaker 2: have come out about the Jets really not wanting to

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Speaker 2: do hard knocks, and Aaron Rodgers said they are forcing

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Speaker 2: it down our throats. That's the reason why we're doing it.

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Speaker 2: Adam Schefter was on ESPN kind of talking about the

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Speaker 2: Jets scenario and what they had to say to NFL Films,

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Speaker 2: which was basically, we don't want to do this, We

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Speaker 2: don't want to be a part of it this year,

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Speaker 2: and they waited a while to announce. The NFL waited

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Speaker 2: a while to announce because I think they were trying

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Speaker 2: to maybe find somebody else who would be down to

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Speaker 2: do it. The Commanders were brought up, per Adam Schefter,

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Speaker 2: but since they don't have a new owner in place yet,

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Speaker 2: they didn't feel like it was the right time to

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Speaker 2: do that type of show. Maybe they will be a

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Speaker 2: nominee in the next couple of years when they do

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Speaker 2: have some newness in that building, a new owner. So

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Speaker 2: the NFL came back to the Jets and they said.

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Speaker 3: You're going to do it.

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Speaker 2: You have no options, You're doing it, and you will

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Speaker 2: like it. And the Jets came back saying, fine, we're

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Speaker 2: not going to give you a lot of access. One

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Speaker 2: of the things that Adam Schefter noted was that in

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Speaker 2: terms of access, they will not be showing players get

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Speaker 2: cut because they believe that it is not humane to

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Speaker 2: show something like that. What do you think you get that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a tough time.

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Speaker 4: I get it difficult, particularly for a young player. It's

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Speaker 4: not it's the least fun thing. Coaches will taste the

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Speaker 4: word thing they hate about their job the most is

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Speaker 4: having to release a player who's really done everything you

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Speaker 4: somebody else out. It's a hard thing, and there is

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Speaker 4: no doubt the NFL put as much pressure on the

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Speaker 3: Make them do it right.

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Speaker 4: It's the only choice. The Jets are the only they're

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Speaker 4: in this huge media want they've been They've stunk for

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Speaker 4: the last handful of years, and they had a really

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Speaker 4: Zach Wilson just couldn't do it as a rookie, and

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Speaker 4: so they plug in a future Hall of Fame super

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Speaker 4: where that is starved for a winner. To bring a

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Speaker 2: Yeah that can match that story, right, you gotta gotta

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Speaker 4: He's knew it, and and the Jets are like going

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Speaker 4: up because, let's face it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they got stuff to figure out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And of course you.

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Speaker 2: Don't want cameras in those meetings when you're trying to

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Speaker 2: having those meetings of planning what what the team's gonna

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Speaker 2: look like or what the offense is gonna look like. Sure,

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Speaker 2: they're not gonna show all the x's and o's, like, no, duh.

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Speaker 2: But there's I don't want to say heated, but there's

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Speaker 2: gonna be some intense meetings that this team is about

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Speaker 4: And you're gonna have You're gonna have a head coach

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Speaker 4: quarterback who's of Hall of Famer, and they're gonna say, hey, listen,

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Speaker 4: quarterbacks coach and the offensive coordinator, who the quarterback and

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Speaker 4: you know. And plus Maddie, the Jets have a reputation

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Speaker 3: Crazy, I must see TV.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: And also with the way that Aaron Rodgers has broadcasted

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Speaker 2: himself to the entire world over the over the last

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Speaker 2: few years, he didn't help himself in that category either, Like, buddy,

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Speaker 2: you've been all over the TV every single week, online

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Speaker 4: And to be kind, he comes across as at the

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Speaker 4: very least eccentric, yes, which is like, you know.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, we want to watch you.

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Speaker 4: This the guy that put his foot up on the

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Speaker 4: there's just no there's no end to the quirkiness that's

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you got wrap out.

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Speaker 4: You gotta watch it.

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Speaker 3: You gotta tape it.

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Speaker 4: You got a DVR it so you can go back

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Speaker 4: and say, wait, do you remember they go back and

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Speaker 4: watch it? Is absolutely must way. In fact, you know

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Speaker 4: he's sitting here talking to you.

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Speaker 3: Are you talking about it on the show?

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Speaker 4: I don't really, I haven't really watched it in years past.

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Speaker 4: On clips. I'm gonna watch that.

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Speaker 2: I think the first episode drops on eighth. I want

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna look it up.

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Speaker 4: Most of all, you want to watch it because two,

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Speaker 4: this is the first time I can remember, although it

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Patriots the Bills, So yeah, So

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Speaker 2: I think the coaching staff is going to be watching this.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's a competitive advantage to tune in listen.

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Speaker 4: They have people assigned.

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Speaker 3: To watch it and take notes.

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Speaker 4: You have guys listen, you got to watch every episode

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Speaker 4: and tape it, and so we can go back and

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Speaker 4: look and show me anything that's relevant about what they're doing.

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Speaker 3: Or anything that's going on in the background that might be.

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Speaker 4: That's one thing. People watching teams go so far as

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Speaker 4: to look at the background, like, what are those are

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Speaker 2: There are lined up in that shot way down the field.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is in the forefront of the shot, but

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Speaker 2: you can see the defense line up in a certain way.

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Speaker 3: What what are they running there?

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Speaker 4: If you can't see what they're running? Who's lined up?

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Speaker 4: Is that? Is that? You know? Is that Quinn Williams

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Speaker 4: that film is going to be gone over And the.

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Speaker 2: Jills don't have any film with the Jets and Aaron

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Speaker 3: So you better believe they'll be watching.

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Speaker 4: It's not just Buffalo, I mean the Patriots, the Dolphins, all,

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Speaker 4: All those teams be watching it too. Those are all

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Speaker 4: all of that and they got the Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna be crazy.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: August eighth is the premiere of Hard Knocks with the Jets.

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Speaker 2: It's on HBO, which is called now Max, I believe

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Speaker 2: is the new name for it.

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Speaker 3: They're always changing their name.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of other shows, we kind of talked about Quarterback

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Speaker 2: is one of those guys. I haven't gotten a chance

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Speaker 2: Should we have some homework this week to watch an

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Speaker 2: episode and discuss homework.

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Speaker 4: For watching TV is never homework, but yes, I think we.

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Speaker 2: Should do that for Thursday or Friday's show, talk about

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Speaker 2: what we think about it. Because I saw some people

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Speaker 2: involved in the show, he said, is something that he

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Speaker 2: hasn't really seen before when football players have been highlighted

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Speaker 2: on a show like Hard Knock. So we said that

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Speaker 2: how they were shown.

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Speaker 3: Throughout the show.

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Speaker 2: So I'm looking forward to watch it watching it. I

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Speaker 2: we do, we can we can chat about it all right,

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Speaker 2: But on today's show, we've got Fox Sports' AFC East

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Speaker 2: writer on with us at two o'clock. His name is

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Speaker 2: Henry McKenna. He wrote an article up about Dalton kincaid,

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Speaker 2: so we'll ask him about the team, what he thinks

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Speaker 4: Well, the most important guy is always Josh, but he's

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Speaker 4: acclamation period, had a week or so in training camp

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Speaker 4: before they put pads on. Then when those pads do

438
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Speaker 4: go on, it's like, wow, you look at that, it's

439
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Speaker 4: got things changed for some guy. There's a handful of

440
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Speaker 4: spots where you think that's that's different, and.

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Speaker 2: The defense really needs some time to get going once

442
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Speaker 2: you put the pads on. In terms of tackling, I

443
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Speaker 2: remember back to one of the COVID years and it

444
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Speaker 2: was a quote from Mike I think after a game

445
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Speaker 2: or maybe it was after a preseason game and the

446
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Speaker 2: tackling for the Bills was not up to par, not

447
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Speaker 2: up to what the standards were within the defense, and

448
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Speaker 2: Micah said something to the notion of, hey, we've started

449
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Speaker 2: late this year because of COVID and it's impacted kind

450
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Speaker 2: of us getting back in the rhythm of just form tackling.

451
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Speaker 2: You think that's so easy to do, but it does

452
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Speaker 2: take time to get that down when you've gone through

453
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Speaker 2: a whole off season when you haven't tackled somebody. I mean,

454
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Speaker 2: they come back here in April and they go through

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Speaker 2: workouts and then OTAs and mandatory mini camp, but you're

456
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Speaker 2: not putting pads on for any of that. And then

457
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Speaker 2: when you go home in June and July, you're training

458
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Speaker 2: with your buddies and you're not practicing nobody. You're running rights,

459
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Speaker 2: you're running routes, you're doing footworks type of things, but.

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Speaker 3: You're not tackling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the last time these guys tackled somebody was

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Speaker 2: the last game they played in January.

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Speaker 4: Right, that's right. You don't practice. They can't practice it,

464
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Speaker 4: and I get it too. You can go out and

465
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Speaker 4: you will see about here once in a while, will

466
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Speaker 4: they've got these big doughnuts that are like a long

467
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Speaker 4: square that's in a circle, and they can roll it

468
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Speaker 4: and the guys come up and tackle it. But it's different.

469
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Speaker 4: So you've got to really work hard to find a

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Speaker 4: way to teach tackling. And and I've said this too,

471
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Speaker 4: one of the the things that's difficult for some people

472
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Speaker 4: to do, particularly young kids and young players, when they

473
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Speaker 4: come in to start playing tackle football, is to set

474
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Speaker 4: aside their sense of self preservation. You have to be

475
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Speaker 4: willing to jump in front of a guy who's running,

476
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Speaker 4: you know, you have to willing to put your body

477
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Speaker 4: in front of a guy who's moving hard and you know,

478
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Speaker 4: take his knees and grab his you know, he let

479
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Speaker 4: his body hit your body and wrap around it. It's

480
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Speaker 4: hard to do for some people. And when they do

481
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Speaker 4: finally do that, you'll see some guys who have really

482
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Speaker 4: been playing well and flashing and doing all this stuff,

483
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Speaker 4: all of a sudden they disappear, and the other guys

484
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Speaker 4: who've just been okay, we're like, oh, well, he's a

485
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Speaker 4: little better, you know what I mean. It's the physical

486
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Speaker 4: nature of the game is still the trump card that

487
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Speaker 4: makes it different than any other sport, and that's still

488
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Speaker 4: even in today's NFL. It's still the case.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we want you guys to get involved in the conversation.

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Speaker 2: Which player in this year is Bill's training camp is

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Speaker 2: the most compelling. We've got some callers hanging on the line,

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Speaker 2: so we'll go to Stan from Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: He's on the line with us.

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Speaker 2: Stan, who do you think is the most compelling player

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Speaker 2: in this year's training camp?

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Speaker 5: Hey, Maddie, Hey Steve, thanks for having me on. You

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Speaker 5: know what, this is the toughest question you guys have

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Speaker 5: ever posed. I think we are defense is beastly, But

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Speaker 5: I believe Gabe Davis is compelling simply because if Gabe

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Speaker 5: can't really cut this year, if he's still got that

501
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Speaker 5: that whatever he had in his head last year, do

502
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Speaker 5: you guys think that Sherfield can actually slide in a

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Speaker 5: game spot had King Caid play as a as a

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Speaker 5: slot receiver or an h back and maybe put the

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Speaker 5: rookie from last year in the slot spot and just

506
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Speaker 5: load that offense up for Josh. So there's a lot

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Speaker 5: of compelling things I think on the offensive side, with

508
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Speaker 5: what Dorsey need, what Dorsey has and needs to do,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna hang up and listen to you guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good point.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Stan, it's a good point. And you're right. Nothing

512
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Speaker 4: is chiseled in granite at this point except for maybe Diggs.

513
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Speaker 4: Diggs is gonna be on the field, and he's versatile

514
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Speaker 4: enough he could play in the slot, he could play

515
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Speaker 4: outside of the X, and he could also play at

516
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Speaker 4: the Z. And the difference between the X and the Z,

517
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Speaker 4: and it doesn't sound like much, but it is different.

518
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Speaker 4: The X plays on the line of scrimmage, so when

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Speaker 4: he's one of the guys that can't move once they

520
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Speaker 4: set the ball and they line up, the X is

521
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Speaker 4: gonna stay there and he's gonna be there. The Z

522
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Speaker 4: is off the line of screams because the tight end

523
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Speaker 4: will be inside of me. Has to uncover the tight

524
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Speaker 4: ends so he can move and go in motion and

525
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Speaker 4: motion across, come out, he can shift, he can set

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Speaker 4: and all of that. That's the difference between the X

527
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Speaker 4: and disease. Not much because you, but for Digs it

528
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Speaker 4: makes a lot of difference because they put him off

529
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Speaker 4: the ball a yard and then he can move and

530
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Speaker 4: he forces the defense to find him. And when you

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Speaker 4: move a guy like Digs everybody on the defense has

532
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Speaker 4: to adjust because they got to make sure wherever he goes,

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Speaker 4: somebody got him. The X is different. That's why you want,

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Speaker 4: like a big X receiver. You just want a physical

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Speaker 4: matchup because he's gonna be standing there tall and he's

536
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Speaker 4: a big, hard, physical target that you need somebody to

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Speaker 4: bear up and guard him. But you even but you

538
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Speaker 4: know where he's at. That's like, that's you know, it's

539
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Speaker 4: kind of an alpha guy who doesn't care line line

540
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Speaker 4: up anybody on me. I'm gonna take him, and I

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Speaker 4: ain't moving. You're gonna But guy like Diggs, you got

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Speaker 4: to find him and chase him down and make sure

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Speaker 4: you got two and hopefully, you know, for your defense,

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Speaker 4: maybe two guys. Right. So as he runs across the formation,

545
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Speaker 4: it goes from this guy and this guy to that

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Speaker 4: guy and this guy, and then this guy and the

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Speaker 4: other guy and the other guy and another guy. Is

548
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Speaker 4: he goes a further and further across the formation, those

549
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Speaker 4: who are guarding him, it changes every time he crosses

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Speaker 4: one of the other receivers. So that's part of what

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Speaker 4: Diggs's deal is. But when you get an ex guy

552
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Speaker 4: like Gabe Davis, he doesn't move, so they know where

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Speaker 4: he's at. And that's kind of so you kind of

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Speaker 4: get the mindsets like, all right, let's go, you and me,

555
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Speaker 4: let's go. All these other guys are gonna they're over

556
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Speaker 4: there with Diggs, they're doing all that, they're adjusting and

557
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 4: switching all that. It's you and me, let's go. That's

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Speaker 4: the kind of different mindset. That's where Gabe is at,

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Speaker 4: and that's you know. So what the coaching staff is

560
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Speaker 4: gonna do is fine guys who have all of the

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Speaker 4: skills set you need, but they'll mix and match where

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Speaker 4: they put, you know. And what happens if Gabe Davis

563
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Speaker 4: now is the X, but he moves inside and guys

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Speaker 4: are moving all over and somebody, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: Gabe Davis is matched up with a fat guy, right, yeah,

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Speaker 4: then it's like, oh, look at here, you know, let's go.

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Speaker 4: That's how they work it, and that's all up to

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Speaker 4: Ken Dorsey and all those guys and the players and

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Speaker 4: whoever is on the field with Gabe Davis and Dean

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Speaker 4: and Steph Diggs and all these guys. So that's how

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Speaker 4: that offensive mindset works for the for the players themselves,

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Speaker 4: and for guys who are kind of garden them. It's

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Speaker 4: going to be really fun because this is a whole

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Speaker 4: new cast of characters outside of Davis and Diggs.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I agree Gabe Davis is a compelling player

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Speaker 2: to watch this training camp because last year, I think

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Speaker 2: from the outside, expectations were really high for Gabe Davis

578
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Speaker 2: because of the playoffs that he had.

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Speaker 3: Because of the four touchdowns in a game.

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Speaker 2: You don't see that a lot, or really at all,

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Speaker 2: And going into this last season, there were a lot

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Speaker 2: of expectations because of that, and rightfully so maybe they

583
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: were a little bit too high, but he had that

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Speaker 2: ankle spray and I think that affected what he was

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Speaker 2: able to do. So we didn't have the season that

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Speaker 2: most of us were hoping that he would have. So

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, is he gonna step up to the

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Speaker 2: plate this season this training camp? Is he going to

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Speaker 2: be a different player this training camp? Is he going

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Speaker 2: to be a guy who's not a young guy anymore?

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Speaker 2: I mean this is year four for him. He's been

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Speaker 2: in the system for a few years. I mean, he

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Speaker 2: did have over eight hundred receiving yards last year, so

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Speaker 2: it's not like he didn't do anything. We'll see what

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Speaker 2: it looks like this season, and yeah, it'll be interesting

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Speaker 2: to see what game is Gabe Davis is doing. Paired

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Speaker 2: with a guy like Trent Sherfield. How are they going

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Speaker 2: to use him? Will they interchange those two at all?

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Speaker 2: Gabe is a little bit bigger than Trent, But Trent

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Speaker 2: also is a compelling player for this training camp as

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Speaker 2: well because he's new to the team. He had not

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Speaker 2: a lot of success, but he was a player with

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Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphin that people were upset when he left

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Speaker 2: the team. His teammates were upset when he left the team.

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Speaker 2: So I think that means you've got a really great

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Speaker 2: player in trench Herfield, and it's just going to be

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Speaker 2: how do we fit him into the offense? How do

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Speaker 2: we fit him into what we want to do? But

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Speaker 2: also how does he work with the strengths that he

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Speaker 2: can offer. I mean, this is an offense that wants

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Speaker 2: to play to your strengths of the players within it,

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Speaker 2: which I love getting the best.

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Speaker 3: Out of those guys.

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Speaker 2: So two great names gave Davis, trench Herfield for sure

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Speaker 2: compelling players. Who do you think is the most compelling

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Speaker 2: player in this year's Bill's training camp? Give us a

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Speaker 2: call here at eighth three, five point fifty or tweet

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Speaker 2: at us. We're going to take a break, but when

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Speaker 2: we come back, we'll be reading off the tweet sheet

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Speaker 2: and answering some more of your calls here.

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Speaker 3: On One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: we're back here on one Bill's Live. We've got a

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Speaker 2: great topic for you today, as training camp is just

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Speaker 2: a week away, the first practice of training camp. That is,

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Speaker 2: which player in this year's Bill's training camp is the

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Speaker 2: most compelling in your eyes? I think you could go

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Speaker 2: down the entire roster and there could be a conversation

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Speaker 2: for each and every player on this roster, because all

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Speaker 2: guys are heading into this training camp, into this season

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Speaker 2: with a different story. And we've got some callers on

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Speaker 2: the line. So we're going to go to Dan in Rochester. Dan,

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Speaker 2: you're on with us. Who do you think is the

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Speaker 2: most compelling in this year's training camp?

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Speaker 6: Well, what Steve said, I was thinking of Dalton, Kit

636
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 6: and Cade it could give him real problems. And Matt,

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Speaker 6: you do a great job since you've been in Buffalo.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, great job, great job. Stay You're a Hall

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Speaker 6: of fame right all the way of them Western New

640
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 6: York for seventy two years. So nothing but hard to

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Speaker 6: work from you. I think it's all right, thanks day,

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Speaker 6: go ahead. I'm so sick of hearing about the Jets.

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Speaker 6: I could scream, I'm a living here. Well we got

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Speaker 6: a jet ed. It was right across the street from

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Speaker 6: me over here. I can't stand him. I'm so sick

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Speaker 6: of them. Thanks the game right now?

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Speaker 4: See all right, thanks Dan, I appreciate it's a nice call,

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Speaker 4: and you're thank you. Thanks for the nice words. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's I'll say this. Uh you think about it. With

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Speaker 4: all the extra stuff that goes on, that's gonna be

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Speaker 4: a tough game, that opening game. I don't care how

652
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 4: their preseason goes and whatever, it's going to be a

653
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 4: difficult game for Buffalo to go into Meadowland to MetLife

654
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 4: Stadium and beat the Jets on opening night when Aaron

655
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 4: Rodgers and don't forget, it's going to be nine to

656
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 4: eleven and it's there's gonna be a commemorative day for that.

657
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 4: They're gonna, you know, they're gonna have all the pompings

658
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 4: circumstances that that day would command and it should. It's

659
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 4: gonna be an emotional day for all of us. And

660
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 4: the Bill's got to play a game on the road

661
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 4: in that environment against a team that's gonna be jacked.

662
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 4: So that's a I'm when you start going down the

663
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 4: list and saying wlwlwl, that's a coin toss for me.

664
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: And to open the season against it, like, I'm so

665
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: excited for this game. To open the season against a

666
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: team that you're the quarterback that's playing for that team.

667
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: You haven't seen tape of them together yet. So the

668
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: Bills are gonna be working with not as much as

669
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: the Jets will be working with in terms of games

670
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: that they're able to watch. Of course, they played the

671
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: Packers last year, beat the Packers I think by ten points,

672
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: so they've seen Aaron Rodgers. There's players on this roster

673
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,479
Speaker 2: like Micah Hyde who have played with Aaron Rodgers in

674
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: Green Bay and they're familiar with the Jets, not familiar

675
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: with some of the new guys, but it's a team

676
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: that they see multiple.

677
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 3: Times a year.

678
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: In terms of the compelling player that Dan said, it's

679
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 2: Dalton Kincaid And yeah, I think he is at the

680
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: top of the list for many of us because the

681
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: expectations for him are uncertain right now, and who knows

682
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: when they will be certain. Will we be able to

683
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 2: see that during training camp where he's lined up, how

684
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 2: much he's being used. Is this a player who is

685
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: going to be out on the field for week one?

686
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 2: Is he an exception to Sean McDermott not using rookies

687
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: unless he really needs to within an offense or a defense,

688
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: or unless they break out, and it's like, we have

689
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: got to use this guy. It seems like coaching staff

690
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 2: tends to kind of fold them in with a little

691
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: bit of ease for them to get used to life

692
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: in the NFL, get used to the offense, get used

693
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: to the defense. It's not easy for these guys to

694
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 2: pick up. But a player like Dalton Kinkaid, who in

695
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: college puts some great tape together and who could be

696
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: a threat to an opposing defense, and you're like, you

697
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: might as well throw him out there. You might as

698
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 2: well use him a lot. So that's why he's so compelling, right.

699
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 4: The thing about it too is we don't it happens

700
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 4: every year because Sean McDermott runs this culture a little differently.

701
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 4: I mean, he makes guy I mean, everybody's got to

702
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 4: earn it, and he almost think that if he could,

703
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 4: nobody would be getting first team reps. Right, they all

704
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 4: got to earn their first or right, So we don't

705
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 4: know how like Kyrie Eedam last year, huge surprise when

706
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 4: Benford earned it. So you know who knows, right, we

707
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 4: don't even know if Dalton king Kaid might be fifth

708
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 4: on the depth chart at tight and we don't know.

709
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 3: We don't know.

710
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 4: So there's always that kind of thing going around because

711
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 4: McDermott is so staunch and set and and rightfully so,

712
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 4: I mean because it's paid huge dividends that they run

713
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 4: it this way, because the players in the locker room

714
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 4: know that if they're doing something right, they're gonna get noticed.

715
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 4: It doesn't it doesn't get thrown by the way.

716
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: It was into like Josh Allen's third season and Sean

717
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 2: was still like, he's got.

718
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 3: To earn the spot.

719
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy. So you know, you get these guys

720
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 4: like Osirius Torrance and Kinkaid, Kayer Elam, you know, Khalis

721
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 4: Shakir these, you know James Cook, great example.

722
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 3: James Cook, he's compelling.

723
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 4: I mean James Cook, he couldn't get he couldn't get

724
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 4: in front of Motor Singletary. I'm like, dude, so it's hard.

725
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 4: And also to get in front of those guys sometimes

726
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 4: those guys have to stumble and if they don't stumble, well,

727
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 4: you know, what are you gonna do? You can't set

728
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 4: him down for not doing it something right, Yeah, yeah, right,

729
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 4: m hm.

730
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 2: Let's go to Barbara in Rochester. Barbara's been hanging on

731
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: the line. Barbara, you're on with us. Now, who do

732
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: you think is a compelling player in this year's training camp?

733
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 7: Hi, Steve, Hi, Maddie. Great to talk to you. Before

734
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 7: I get to my the answering of your question, I

735
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 7: did want to mention I had a behind the scenes

736
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 7: tour on Monday at high Mark Stadium and it was awesome. Steve.

737
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 7: I'd loved seeing your name up there. I loved getting

738
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 7: down on the field and touching the turf. I know

739
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 7: that's not going to be something that's available once the

740
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 7: new stadium is built, so it just it really was

741
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 7: an awesome experience. And the second thing before I get

742
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 7: to answering your question is I was one of the

743
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 7: lucky ones who scored a ticket to the training camp,

744
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 7: so I'm I'm really stoke over there and actually see

745
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 7: for myself maybe who the most compelling person may be

746
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 7: in training camp. But I was thinking a little bit

747
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 7: outside of the box. My answer is more for the

748
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 7: offensive line for a couple of reasons. I just feel

749
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 7: like if I think it's most compelling to give Josh

750
00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 7: the additional time to go through his run through to

751
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 7: make those decisions to not have to be flushed out

752
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 7: of the pocket, but also for the reasons of developing

753
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 7: the running game. So I'll hang up and listen to

754
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 7: your response because I'll be interested of your synopsis or

755
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 7: your your feedback on the different players new and veterans

756
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 7: that are on the offensive line that maybe could help

757
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 7: in that way.

758
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 4: So sad, thank you, Barbara, appreciate it.

759
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 3: Thanks Barbara.

760
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 4: You're right, I've said it a lot. It's it's a

761
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 4: chemistry experiment in training camp at every position twenty two

762
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 4: positions plus all the special teams positions, and they try

763
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 4: and mix different skill sets and attitudes and personalities and

764
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 4: strengths and weaknesses and person and the personalities together to

765
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 4: get the best combination of the eleven guys that can

766
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 4: actually play on any given down and let's phase it.

767
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 4: There are eleven guys on the team. Five of them

768
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 4: are offensive line, so you know half of them.

769
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 2: It's a big position group Brown too. Heading into camp.

770
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 4: They got to get that right and you got to

771
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 4: mix those people together at different positions and different combinations

772
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 4: and and find out when your best.

773
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 2: And there were times last year with the offensive line,

774
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 2: and you know, you could say this for any any

775
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 2: position group on this roster where they didn't play up

776
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: to the standard of how they should be playing. And

777
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 2: they were faced with some injuries last year. But you

778
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: bring some new guys in and some of these guys

779
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: who are returning on this team, you know, Spencer Brown

780
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: is a compelling player because he really hasn't had that

781
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: full healthy season yet or full healthy offseason, and then

782
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: heading into a season last offseason, he was dealing with

783
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: injuries and and just didn't didn't have the season that

784
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: we all wanted to see him have. He had, he

785
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 2: had games, he had flashes, but that consistency, I think

786
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 2: that you you want with a lot of these young

787
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 2: players as they're transitioning, not into you know, a a

788
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 2: rookie or a sophomore player that you're ready to see

789
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 2: in year three, I'm ready to see a consistent Spencer

790
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 2: Brown who can hold down that right tackle spot and

791
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: be the starter for the future of this team. I

792
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: think he can do that. I think Brandon Bean believes

793
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: that he can do that. You've got new players like

794
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: Connor McGovern on this roster. How is he going to fit?

795
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,479
Speaker 2: You got you got a guy like I Bucker who's

796
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: returning from injury. He was out all last season with

797
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: a nagging injury. And he's a guy who was in

798
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 2: and out of the lineup when he was healthy two

799
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 2: seasons ago or season before his injury. So is he

800
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 2: gonna be competing for a spot. There's a lot of

801
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: guys that I think they're gonna be rolling through those

802
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 2: five spots to figure out who are gonna be the

803
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: best five. Mitch Morris is gonna be on the field,

804
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 2: Dion Dawkins is gonna be on the field.

805
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 3: I think the rest are are up for grabs.

806
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I think they're gonna they're gonna need I

807
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 4: don't know that they'll keep ten guys offensive lineman on

808
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 4: the roster, but they will keep ten guys available on

809
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 4: the practice squad and all of that, so you'll have

810
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 4: at least eight or maybe yeah, eight guys active on

811
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 4: game day. And if you go Mitch Morris, Osiris, Torrance

812
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 4: mcconnor McGovern, Dion Dawkins, and Spencer Brown, and you're right.

813
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 4: Spencer Brown was the one position where he had back surgery,

814
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 4: had a high ankle spray. You could was never one

815
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 4: hundred percent all year, and you'd like to see him

816
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 4: get a chance to play.

817
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: He's a monster of a man like he towers over

818
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: people and he has that strength, and I think that

819
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 2: get off to where he can't be successful in the NFL.

820
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 2: He just hasn't been able to put it together yet.

821
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: And I really hope that happens this this training camp

822
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: for him.

823
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 4: And then you've got guys right behind them that have

824
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 4: got some chops. Dave Kessenberry, David Edwards, and then Ryan

825
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 4: Bates and I Budkert. All those guys have played a

826
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 4: lot of football in the National Football And I think

827
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 4: guy the two that people forgetting about that Brownie and

828
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 4: I talk about a lot is Alec Anderson out of

829
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 4: USC or UCLA.

830
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 3: I'm not sure Ucla, I think.

831
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 4: And they're all big, big dudes even by NFL standards,

832
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 4: So it's an offensive line that's going to have a

833
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 4: lot of depth and a lot of experiences right where

834
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 4: you want to be. And that all sounds great. It's

835
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 4: like great because we all kind of expect something to

836
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 4: happen or what like last year when he had you know,

837
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 4: Butcker goes down and Ryan Bates goes you know, all

838
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 4: these guys. But really the simple fact of the matter is,

839
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 4: just give us five guys, if they stay healthy, who

840
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 4: can dominate.

841
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: I want five guys And then saying that since twenty nineteen,

842
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 2: since I came here, and it seems like and yes,

843
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: the offensive line is a position group that does get

844
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 2: beat up, and it's rare that you're going to have

845
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 2: five healthy guys for an entire season, so you might

846
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: as well really say seven healthy guys with guys in

847
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: and out of the lineup eight or eight. But I

848
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: feel like it's just been a ruggle at times for

849
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 2: this offensive line in terms of consistency in guys. And

850
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: then you can say, well, it's been good because in

851
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 2: the offseason or in training camp, they do roll through

852
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 2: a lot of different combinations, so that but by the

853
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 2: time something happens, if someone needs to slide over they've

854
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,959
Speaker 2: already practiced that way. But you just want a healthy five,

855
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: a healthy seven, a healthy eight.

856
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 4: I'll say this, you know, and all the stuff we've had,

857
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 4: we've always said, just give us hope the offensive line

858
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 4: plays well, they play good. You know, we get a

859
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 4: good offensive line, that's good. Here's the thing with the

860
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 4: guys on this roster. There's a Bills fans aren't out

861
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 4: of line that if this line, offensive line gets out,

862
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 4: they find the right combination with this depth and these

863
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 4: guys behind what that this offensive line forget about being good,

864
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 4: Let's be dominant. They've got a chance to have physically

865
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 4: dominating players up front for the first time since nineteen

866
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 4: ninety when and I've told that a lot of my

867
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Speaker 4: friends this nineteen ninety when the Bills went to their

868
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Speaker 4: Super Bowl, there were only seven men in the entire

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Speaker 4: National Football League, seven players across every roster that were

870
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 4: listed at three hundred pounds or more. That's it was

871
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 4: a different league. We had three of them starting on

872
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 4: our offensive line. If you're gonna if you're gonna go

873
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 4: and be there and do that and have a shot

874
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Speaker 4: at it, if you've got a dominant offensive line, you're

875
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Speaker 4: halfway home. Now, this to me, this group, there's five

876
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Speaker 4: guys in there who, if they're healthy, it can do that.

877
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Speaker 4: That's something Bills fans in this team and a lot

878
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Speaker 4: of teams haven't seen ever for a long long time.

879
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Speaker 4: That would be awesome.

880
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Speaker 3: Sign right up.

881
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 4: But that's what that's the potential year is so much more.

882
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 4: This group that I'm I'm like like little check marks

883
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 4: and x'es over here looking at these guys. Well, it's

884
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 4: in there somewhere. I believe they're good enough there if

885
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 4: that happens, and you know, just take it out of

886
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Speaker 4: gear and let's ride along, man, because they're gonna they'll

887
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Speaker 4: carry it. But that's what it's gonna be if if

888
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Speaker 4: those guys play like that, which you know, I hadn't

889
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 4: thought about until just that's true. Man. Let's go.

890
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 2: Taskers getting excited. All right, We're continuing the conversation next

891
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live. More calls to answer, some tweets

892
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: to read as well. Where One Bill's Live presented by

893
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 2: Clydehealth on Buffalo Bills Radio.

894
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Speaker 3: All right, we're back here on One Bill's Live. Don't forget.

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Speaker 2: At two o'clock we've got Henry McKenna, who will be

896
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,959
Speaker 2: on with us. He's the Fox Sports AFC East writer

897
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: and a former Patriots beat writer for USA Today. He

898
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: wrote story on Dalton Kincaid and Sean mcderbertt taking over

899
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 2: the defense a little bit about the AFC East as well,

900
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Speaker 2: so we'll ask him about that and more. Our topic today,

901
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: which player in this year's Bill's training camp is the

902
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: most compelling? Good topic? A lot of callers. We've got

903
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Speaker 2: some more hanging on the line. So let's go to

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Speaker 2: Rick from Williamsville. Rick, you're on with us now?

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Speaker 3: How you doing?

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Speaker 4: Rick?

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Speaker 6: Good?

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Dalton king kid is going to reinvent the

909
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: position of slot receiver because of his catch radius. You

910
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: want to put a nickelback on him, go ahead, you

911
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: want to put a linebacker on him? Be our guest,

912
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: and behind him second string will be a guy named

913
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Speaker 1: Zach Davidson. This guy has a catch radius like a

914
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Speaker 1: B twenty five. This guy is huge and he's fast.

915
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: That's all I gotta say. I think they're going to

916
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Speaker 1: reinvent that position and it's going to be tough to

917
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Speaker 1: defend against. One last thing, the Achilles hill from the

918
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Speaker 1: Achilles heel for the Bills is going to be backup center.

919
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Speaker 1: They do not have a dedicated backup center. They got

920
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Speaker 1: guys who are slash center guard slash center. What do

921
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Speaker 1: you think of that?

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Speaker 4: If you're gonna pick us an Achilles heel, the backup

923
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Speaker 4: player at an interior line spot would be the place

924
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Speaker 4: you would actually pick to have backup. Yeah, maybe you're right,

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Speaker 4: but I know there are like at least three guys

926
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Speaker 4: on the list I'm looking at who who can do it.

927
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Speaker 4: Baits could do it before Ryan Bates has done it.

928
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Speaker 4: I think Butker has tried it at least once or twice.

929
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Speaker 4: I know this too. They're trying to They're training Alec

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Speaker 4: Anderson to be able to do it. There's a ton

931
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Speaker 4: of guys who are in line to play center. And

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Speaker 4: you're right, I don't know that there's a guy set

933
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Speaker 4: in stone that can do it. And if if Bates

934
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Speaker 4: and Butker aren't available, Baits in particular, it may be

935
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Speaker 4: a problem. But I think Bates could be a really

936
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Speaker 4: good backup center. He's smart and he's tough, two really tough,

937
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Speaker 4: two really high priority qualifications for a center. So smart

938
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Speaker 4: smartness and intelligence and toughness or two of the things,

939
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Speaker 4: and that's what Bates Is.

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Speaker 2: He brought up Zach Davidson, who is a six to

941
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Speaker 2: seven tight end on this roster.

942
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Speaker 3: I was excited to see what he could.

943
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Speaker 2: Do in training camp, but he went to IR injured

944
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Speaker 2: Reserve in the middle of June. I want to say

945
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Speaker 2: it was during military mini camp he got injured. I

946
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Speaker 2: don't think it was on the practice field. I cannot remember.

947
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Speaker 2: But he is on the IR so we will not

948
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Speaker 2: see him for a while unfortunately. But dolon Kin kaid

949
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Speaker 2: he could reinvent that slot role.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right. Zack Davidson is big.

951
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a big guy. He's like six seven fifty one.

952
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Speaker 4: There's a few guys out there and there's like Rousseau

953
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 4: stands out because he's like, you know, his eyeballs or

954
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Speaker 4: at the top of everybody else's head. And Davidson's one

955
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Speaker 4: of those guys too that stand out in a group

956
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Speaker 4: of big guys. They stand out as being big guys.

957
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Speaker 4: And if Davidson has a big catch, Ratius is a

958
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 4: guy that size, I don't know how he doesn't stick

959
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 4: on the free He'd have to be he'd have to

960
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 4: stink at every other aspect of the game not to

961
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Speaker 4: be able to hang in there when you can catch

962
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Speaker 4: the ball like that and be that size.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see, I'll see when he heels up.

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Speaker 4: I I appreciate, I appreciate Rick, your your insight into

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Speaker 4: into that and you're right. Catching the ball was one

966
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Speaker 4: of the things that struck this team and was achilles

967
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Speaker 4: heel last year. And turning the ball over was a

968
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Speaker 4: thing that was the achilles heel of this team last year.

969
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Speaker 4: If you fix those two things, if you cut and

970
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Speaker 4: turnovers in half, and you cut the drops in half,

971
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Speaker 4: this team is really difficult to be, really difficult to be.

972
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Speaker 2: They definitely are. I'm excited to see what they look

973
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Speaker 2: like come training camp here next week.

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Speaker 3: On Wednesday. Next up, Henry McKenna will join.

975
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Speaker 2: The show Fox Sports AFC East Rider, So don't go

976
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 2: anywhere here on One Bill's Live, or presented by Clydeahalth

977
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Speaker 2: on Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 5: It's One Bill's Live, presented by Calledlida Health.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to our number two of One Bill's Live.

980
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: Mattie Glab alongside Steve Tasker, filming for Chris Brown for

981
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Speaker 2: the week and now joining us on the show. We'd

982
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Speaker 2: like to welcome in Henry McKenna, our Fox Sports AFC

983
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Speaker 2: East writer, was also a Patriots beat reporter for USA Today. Henry,

984
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Speaker 2: thanks for joining the show and taking some time to

985
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Speaker 2: be on with us.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, glad to be here. Thanks for having me.

987
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 3: So, Henryette.

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Speaker 2: We have a Twitter topic question today that we're asking

989
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: our viewers. It's which player in this year's Bill's training

990
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 2: camp is going to be the most compelling? A lot

991
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 2: of people have said Dalton Kincaid, and rightfully so. I mean,

992
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 2: he's got some expectations, uncertain expectations at least, but a

993
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 2: lot of our fans are excited to see what he

994
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 2: can put on the field this season. First round draft

995
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 2: pick for the Buffalo Bills, and he put up some

996
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: numbers and some impressive states, some impressive tape in college.

997
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 2: And you did an article about Dalton Cakaid and kind

998
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 2: of went into playing in college and hearing from some

999
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 2: of his college coaches. So what did you learn when

1000
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 2: writing that article and interviewing some of the guys who

1001
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 2: have been around Dalton Kincaid a lot longer than we

1002
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 2: have here at the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 9: Well, as it goes, when you I was lucky enough

1004
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 9: to talk to a few folks on the Utah coaching staff,

1005
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 9: and so I got some really high level insights on him,

1006
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 9: and some really like nitty gritty, whether it's football or

1007
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 9: his personality. So I think the first thing that bill

1008
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 9: fans will love to hear is that his head coach,

1009
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Speaker 9: Kyle Whittingham from Utah said that basically Dalton was the

1010
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 9: Travis Kelcey of their offense. Right after the draft, I

1011
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 9: was texting around with some AFC coaches and one of

1012
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 9: them said the exact same thing. He's going to be

1013
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 9: the Kelsey for Buffalo. And so I think that alone

1014
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 9: that comp is exciting. Obviously, comps at this time are

1015
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 9: like lofty and maybe sometimes a little hyperbolic or definitely hyperbolic.

1016
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 8: But I think like if you look at who he

1017
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 8: is as a person too.

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00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 9: That you're gonna see a guy that will excite Bills

1019
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 9: fans at that level.

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Speaker 6: Two.

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Speaker 9: I mean, at the combine, he was asked where he

1022
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 9: wants to be in five years and he said, I

1023
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Speaker 9: want to have five Super Bowl rings. And you know,

1024
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Speaker 9: he's a selfless team player. That's why he's going to

1025
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Speaker 9: work really well with Dawson Knox in the same position

1026
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Speaker 9: group he's played with two tight ends, sometimes even three

1027
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 9: tight ends in his college career. So he's going to

1028
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 9: be a really good player for this offense. And maybe

1029
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 9: he's not the number one progression guy in year one,

1030
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Speaker 9: but we'll see him evolve, I think, and maybe in

1031
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 9: future years could be that number one guy down the line.

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Speaker 4: I know that. You know when you see a guy play,

1033
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 4: and a lot of what you think about him has

1034
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Speaker 4: to do with his production and the kind of routes heroes,

1035
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 4: but it's also how much an offense depends on him,

1036
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Speaker 4: certainly at Utah and you go back and the game

1037
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Speaker 4: everybody looks at is the USC game where he had

1038
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Speaker 4: sixteen receptions and stuff. I mean, that's a kind of

1039
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Speaker 4: a Travis Kelsey type game. It's going to be it's

1040
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 4: going to be a minute before he gets sixteen targets

1041
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 4: in an NFL game. What will it look like in

1042
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 4: the meantime to you in the best case scenario, if

1043
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 4: he's splitting time with you know, with knocks, if he's

1044
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 4: getting on the field, I mean, what what's his target

1045
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 4: share going to be? Realistically?

1046
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Speaker 9: Yeah, And I'm going to take out a quick tangent

1047
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 9: actually about that USC game When I asked him, you

1048
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 9: know what he thought about his favorite game. He mentioned

1049
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Speaker 9: the other USC game, the Pack to twelve championship, where

1050
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 9: he was playing through a broken.

1051
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Speaker 8: Back, and his statistics were not as impressive.

1052
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Speaker 9: But they won the game. And so I think that again,

1053
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 9: it says something about Dalton. He's really interested in championships.

1054
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 9: He's not interested in personal accolades. And that's why you

1055
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Speaker 9: think about how the Bills kind of slow play their

1056
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 9: first round draft picks. They like to put them into

1057
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 9: position groups that are pretty comfortable.

1058
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Speaker 8: And so he'll have he'll have, you know, a substitutional role.

1059
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Speaker 6: I don't.

1060
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Speaker 9: I don't know that he'll suddenly he you know, necessarily

1061
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,479
Speaker 9: number two guy in the offense, at least in twenty

1062
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 9: twenty three.

1063
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Speaker 8: So target share putting me on the spot, I.

1064
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Speaker 9: Think, let's just say he'll end up with the third

1065
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Speaker 9: most maybe maybe let's say the third most receiving yards

1066
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Speaker 9: on the team.

1067
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Speaker 8: How does that sound to you, guys?

1068
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Speaker 2: Reasonable guest, I mean that sounds pretty reasonable from a

1069
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Speaker 2: rookie tight end on this roster. In your article, you

1070
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Speaker 2: also talked about how he went into a crowded room

1071
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: at Utah when he transferred over to Utah. But he

1072
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Speaker 2: was able to earn his fair share of targets and

1073
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Speaker 2: then kind of worked his way up the depth chart

1074
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Speaker 2: doing that at Utah. How do you think that's going

1075
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Speaker 2: to help him here at the Bills.

1076
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Speaker 9: Yeah, it shows his mentality, Like he knows Dawson Knox,

1077
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Speaker 9: you know, for the time being is the number one

1078
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 9: tight end. He knows that Stefan Diggs is and for

1079
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 9: as long as he's in this building, that building, he

1080
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Speaker 9: will be, you know, the number one receiver. But where

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Speaker 9: he can you know, wiggle his way up the target

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Speaker 9: share ladder, so to speak, is by jumping you know,

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Speaker 9: Dawson Knox and you know, who knows how how long Diggs.

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Speaker 8: Will be on the team for the foreseeable future obviously,

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00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 8: but eventually.

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Speaker 9: When you think about a tight end, right you think

1087
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 9: very long term about the way that they can progress.

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00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 9: And like Kelsey, for example, is still at the top

1089
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Speaker 9: of his game, you know, well into his career. So

1090
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Speaker 9: you think of King Kid working with at the beginning.

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Speaker 9: You know, he joked with Utah tight ends coach that

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Speaker 9: he'd play thirteen personnel right like that, he'd be on

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Speaker 9: the field with two other tight ends, a three tight

1094
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 9: end formation, which is a little bit silly. You almost

1095
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 9: never see that except for Mayvie goal line jumbo, But

1096
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Speaker 9: that's the kind of team player he is, and he's

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00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 9: he's willing to play with whoever needs to play with

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Speaker 9: to help the team get a win. It sounds so cliche,

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Speaker 9: but it really is the guy. Like I interviewed everyone,

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Speaker 9: and he's that guy. So I think that's like resident,

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Speaker 9: hopefully to Bills fans.

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Speaker 8: And not just that. I'm sort of like reiterating the cliches.

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Speaker 4: Right, and so you get to that he's one of

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Speaker 4: the introg We've asked our viewers and listeners to know

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Speaker 4: what's intriguing to them about this training camp. Who's the

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00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 4: guy they're looking at? And we're kind of focused on players,

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00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 4: but one of the big stores that kind of is

1108
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 4: under the radar, mostly because he's got experience doing it,

1109
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 4: is Sean McDermott taking over the defensive play calling for

1110
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Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bills. They've been a very good defense under

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Speaker 4: Leslie Frasier. They haven't you know, they haven't been really spectacular.

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00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,919
Speaker 4: You know, haven't been a big sack team, big turnover team,

1113
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 4: although they've had stretches where they've gotten clusters of turnovers,

1114
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 4: But we don't know what this defense is going to

1115
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 4: look like with Sean McDermott calling the signals and other

1116
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 4: head coaches in the league they call offensive plays, Andy

1117
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 4: Reid most notably, and then you've got Sean McDermott call

1118
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 4: and play defensively. And around the AFC East, you know,

1119
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 4: Vic Fangio is now in Miami caland defensive signals. Now

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Speaker 4: you've got Nathaniel Hackett is the coordinator in in New York.

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Speaker 4: I mean there's been some and now Bill O'Brien in

1122
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 4: New England. I mean, these guys, these changes at the

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Speaker 4: coordinator spot and throw a lot of question marks into

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Speaker 4: what these teams are gonna look like.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, throwing Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of pressure on Sean

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00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 9: McDermott to perform. I do like what Brandon Bean did

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Speaker 9: this offseason. It reminds me I covered the Patriots for

1129
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 9: seven years before I covered the whole AFCs, and you know,

1130
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 9: as Tom Brady's contract consumed more and more of the

1131
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 9: team's cap space, you saw Belichick make the sort of

1132
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 9: like second wave of free agency mid tier role signings.

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Speaker 9: Excuse me, so, like Leonard Floyd and Taylor Rapp are

1134
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 9: the two deals in particular that I have in mind

1135
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Speaker 9: where you see being really I think working with McDermott

1136
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 9: to and they sort of set each other up for success.

1137
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Speaker 8: So I'm curious to.

1138
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 9: See, with McDermott calling plays and Fraser stepping aside for

1139
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 9: at least a year, does this defense change, does this

1140
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 9: scheme change, does the aggressiveness on play calling change? And

1141
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 9: bigger picture, right, Sean McDermott isn't just calling plays, right,

1142
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 9: He's got to manage the game. He's got to manage

1143
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 9: lake game situations. He's got to make sure that everybody's

1144
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 9: on the same page about fourth down decisions. So I

1145
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 9: think we got to see two things. How is Sean

1146
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 9: McDermott still handling those in game management decisions that really

1147
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 9: determine games? And then also how good does this defense look?

1148
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Speaker 9: And most importantly does it look better than last year?

1149
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: How do you think a Leonard Floyd and Taylor Rapp

1150
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 2: could be used in this defense? Those were two notable

1151
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Speaker 2: sign up that you mentioned that Brandon Bean had kind

1152
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 2: of mid end of free agency. So where do you

1153
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Speaker 2: see them fitting and how do you see them helping

1154
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Speaker 2: a play caller in Sean McDermott.

1155
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Speaker 9: Yeah, the truth actually is is and my honest one

1156
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 9: is I don't know exactly, And I think that's kind

1157
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Speaker 9: of the beauty of the two guys. I mean, Floyd

1158
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 9: obviously is an edge guy who can help as von

1159
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Speaker 9: Miller recovers, to give him some snaps, Floyd some snaps

1160
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Speaker 9: and take, you know, alleviate Miller as he comes back.

1161
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Speaker 9: Because as we've sort of seen over the last few

1162
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 9: years ACL injuries, they can take more than a year

1163
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 9: two for players to get right, and so Miller was

1164
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 9: such a huge part of that defense for them to

1165
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 9: have another guy another answer on an already loaded defensive

1166
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Speaker 9: front seven. I think Floyd brings, you know, good depth

1167
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Speaker 9: and talent off the edge. And then Rap is a

1168
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 9: versatility guy. He's more of a Swiss army knife. But

1169
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Speaker 9: but you think you can make the case that Floyd

1170
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Speaker 9: is also like that, so it'll it'll use it gives

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Speaker 9: it gives McDermott two interesting pieces. Neither of them are starters,

1172
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Speaker 9: per se. Well, I guess you could actually make the

1173
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Speaker 9: case that if they make some some schematic changes, maybe

1174
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Speaker 9: we'll see a lot of Rap.

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Speaker 8: But they're the type of players that you know, as

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Speaker 8: as Bills want to do, you want to.

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Speaker 9: Push for a Super Bowl, they're the kind of players

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Speaker 9: that kind of they they give you that like last

1179
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 9: bit of perfection, those those that little bit of fudge

1180
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 9: room as you're trying to go from you know, a

1181
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Speaker 9: top eight defense to a top three defense.

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Speaker 4: And you see this too when we're looking around the

1183
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 4: league with what's going on with Saquon Barkley, h Jonathan Taylor,

1184
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Speaker 4: and and Tony Pollard down in Dallas. The running backs

1185
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 4: are not getting long term deals, and the Bills go

1186
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Speaker 4: out and get two of them, Latavious Marie and Damien

1187
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Speaker 4: Harris to back to go along with James Cook. Uh,

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Speaker 4: they get deeper at running back and probably better at

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Speaker 4: running back at a time when the league is really

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Speaker 4: throwing it more. And then they got bigger and more

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Speaker 4: physical upfront, so you see the riding on the wall.

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Speaker 4: Maybe they're going to be a little bit more of

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Speaker 4: a power run team, or at least a little more

1194
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Speaker 4: effective running team. Even if they don't hand it off anymore,

1195
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Speaker 4: they're going to be better doing it when they do

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Speaker 4: decide to do it. What do you make of not

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Speaker 4: only the running back room of the Buffalo Bills, but

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Speaker 4: the running back in general in that position and where

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Speaker 4: the league's headed.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the league's in a tricky spot with running backs,

1201
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 9: you know, on the whole.

1202
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Speaker 8: We could sit here and talk about it for thirty.

1203
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 9: Minutes, but the short of it is that running backs

1204
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 9: are feeling undervalued and team and that's because teams are.

1205
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Speaker 8: Not valuing them at a premium.

1206
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Speaker 9: I mean, there's a reason why teams go after the

1207
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Speaker 9: franchise tag right now and they are.

1208
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Speaker 8: Comfortable with it.

1209
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Speaker 9: It's because it's actually kind of a discount, which is

1210
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 9: not typically the case for the franchise tag. But in

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Speaker 9: terms of where the Bills sit at running back, I

1212
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Speaker 9: think it, like you said, super fascinating. I mean, James

1213
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Speaker 9: Cook is a second round pick. It's sort of been

1214
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 9: a tough position for being the draft at in recent years,

1215
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 9: a pretty significant draft capital put into that position.

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Speaker 8: So I think.

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Speaker 9: Cook is you know Plan A, but he you he's

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Speaker 9: kind of Planned one A and then you look for

1219
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 9: you know, Plan one B. Right, it's not gonna be

1220
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 9: all Cook all the time. Frankly, he's too small. You

1221
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,479
Speaker 9: don't want to get him banged up, and so you'll

1222
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,439
Speaker 9: use him in the passing game, I think a little

1223
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:34,479
Speaker 9: bit more. Probably this season helped open up the quick

1224
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 9: game that was lacking a little bit last year, But

1225
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 9: that won't stop them from I mean, think about all

1226
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 9: those explosive runs that he had. I mean, he's a really,

1227
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Speaker 9: really good I don't want to use the word scatback,

1228
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 9: but that's that's what I'll use for lack of a

1229
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 9: better term. And so that's why Damien Harris and Latavius

1230
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 9: Murray are showing up. Those guys are tried and true

1231
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 9: between the tackles runners. They're gonna leave bruises on linebackers

1232
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 9: at the end of the game. And that's kind of

1233
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 9: what you need. In compliment to James Cook, who's gonna

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01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 9: who's gonna make a miss? Those other two guys are

1235
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 9: are really bruisers, and like you said, Bill's they got

1236
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 9: more effective running the ball, you know, in the second

1237
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 9: half of the season, but come playoff time, you really

1238
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 9: do actually need to be able to run the ball.

1239
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 9: It sounds crazy in today's NFL, uh, And so I

1240
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 9: think that's a clear effort, like you said, get better

1241
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 9: on the offensive line and in the interior, get better

1242
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 9: at that sort of power runner role.

1243
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 2: Shifting to the AFC East. You cover the Patriots for

1244
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: seven seasons. You said they missed out on DeAndre Hopkins.

1245
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 2: So what are a couple of big questions heading into

1246
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 2: training camp for that team?

1247
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1248
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, the whole offense is one big question, isn't it.

1249
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 9: The offensive coordinator position or that role now filled by

1250
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 9: Bill O'Brien, which you mentioned earlier. He can change things

1251
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 9: in a significant way, right. I mean, we've seen him

1252
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 9: do it with a number of different quarterbacks, whether he

1253
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 9: was a head coach and the team as a whole struggled.

1254
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 8: You know, he did really really.

1255
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 9: Good things for Deshaun Watson on the football field, and

1256
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 9: we saw it at Alabama two. So I think ultimately

1257
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 9: that's really going to kind of dictate how the Patriots go.

1258
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 9: I mean, we saw Mac Jones under Josh McDaniels in

1259
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 9: twenty twenty one, and we saw a pretty competent quarterback

1260
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 9: right under a competent offensive coordinator. Fast forward in twenty

1261
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 9: twenty two, the offense is a train wreck, and you

1262
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 9: can point really to the play callers that year. You know,

1263
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 9: the offensive leaders who are Matt Patricia, Joe Judge, Frankly,

1264
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 9: just their positions were.

1265
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 8: Not right for them.

1266
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 9: I mean, we can all clearly state that at this point,

1267
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 9: and that's why the Patriots had to move on. So

1268
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 9: as they transitioned to O'Brien, the question, can we see

1269
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 9: a competent mac Jones again by way of Bill O'Brien's

1270
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 9: leadership and development. And if that doesn't happen, if Mac

1271
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 9: Jones and Bill O'Brien, you know, for whatever wherever the

1272
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 9: blame ends up falling, if that doesn't work out, this

1273
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 9: could be a really fascinating season for New England because

1274
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 9: their defense is still good. I mean, it's a Bill

1275
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 9: Belichick led team, but the division is just too darn

1276
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 9: good for them to not be a balanced team on

1277
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 9: the whole, because then they're gonna lose a lot of

1278
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 9: games if they can't score points.

1279
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 8: It will be interesting.

1280
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 4: Now you talk about the rest of the division being

1281
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 4: so good, and the most notable thing about the division

1282
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 4: has been Aaron Rodgers addition to the New York Jets, looked

1283
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 4: like a year ago, the Jets looked like a team

1284
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 4: that was poised to really be an outstanding squad, and

1285
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 4: they were a quarterback short of that, I mean, even

1286
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 4: an average quarterback short of that now they get more

1287
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 4: than an average quarterback and Aaron Rodgers is are the

1288
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 4: rest of the piece is going to come back and

1289
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 4: be just as good as we saw them at times

1290
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 4: last year? Is that I mean? Is it? It's never

1291
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 4: that simple, but it kind of looks like it's going

1292
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 4: to be that simple.

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Speaker 9: Well, I gotta preface it by saying, like, I just

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Speaker 9: wonder if the Jets are.

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Speaker 8: Gonna Jets this year?

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Speaker 6: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 8: I just hope for their sake that they don't. But

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Speaker 8: I guess for your for your guys' sake, maybe I

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Speaker 8: hope that they do it.

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Speaker 9: It is just exactly what you asked, which is this

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Speaker 9: team was one quarterback away. There were games where their

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Speaker 9: quarterbacks played competently. They looked like a playoff caliber team.

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Speaker 9: Anytime they put jo Zach Wilson on the field, it

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Speaker 9: all kind of fell apart, right.

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Speaker 8: I kind of accept the.

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Speaker 9: Game that they won an upset fashion over the Bills

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Speaker 9: in New Jersey, but I think the the Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 9: addition is what they needed to tend for a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 9: I've written it kind of all off season that on paper,

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Speaker 9: you just look at the defense that they had last year.

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Speaker 9: And if you make the assumption that those players both

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Speaker 9: offensive and defensively play as well as they did last year,

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Speaker 9: you insert Aaron Rodgers, this team can go to the

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Speaker 9: AFC Championship Game. They can be competitive with anyone, and

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Speaker 9: I just I think even you know, I think they

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Speaker 9: could even come out in the AFC East as the

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Speaker 9: number one team right and upset the Bills or unseat

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Speaker 9: the Bills. So everything is lined up for the Jets,

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Speaker 9: and really the only people that can stop the Jets,

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Speaker 9: in my mind, are the Jets.

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Speaker 2: And it's not just the Jets that the Bills are

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Speaker 2: going to be competing with in the AFC East this year,

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Speaker 2: it's also the Dolphins. And Tua came out and said

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins are definitely legit contenders for the Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: this year. He said, I think the offense can get very,

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Speaker 2: very scary, pretty dangerous. I think we're legit contenders. There's

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Speaker 2: no doubt with the guys that we have on the team.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe that this team is going to be

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Speaker 2: a legit contender for the Super Bowl or do you

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Speaker 2: think the bigger question is cant can to us stay healthy?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: They're sort of one and the same, aren't they Where

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Speaker 9: it has to be a healthy quarterback in order for

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Speaker 9: this offense to function. We saw how quickly, I think

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01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 9: to it doesn't get enough love. The truth is, we

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01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 9: saw what happened when he did get hurt, and how

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Speaker 9: quickly that offense unraveled without him. They've really he's a

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Speaker 9: he operates at a really high level in that offense.

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Speaker 9: And are they super Bowl contenders? I'm not sure about that.

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Speaker 9: I just we saw that the team fall apart a

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01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 9: little bit too precipitously at the second half of last

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01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 9: year for me to have absolute faith that all they

1344
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 9: need is of it to come back and be healthy.

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Speaker 9: I do think that they will be. I mean, they're

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Speaker 9: just so talented, so you can't really count them out,

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Speaker 9: can you. I Mean, look on Madden it came out

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01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 9: the speed ratings today and they have the two fastest

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Speaker 9: running backs in the league. I mean, it's sort of

1350
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 9: it's a video game, so it's sort of silly, but

1351
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:21,799
Speaker 9: they have so many explosive playmakers.

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Speaker 8: And I'm talking about running back.

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Speaker 9: They're obviously they're two best playmakers are at receiver Waddle

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01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 9: and Tyreek Hill. So I think ultimately there's too much

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Speaker 9: uncertainty right now for me to take them seriously as

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Speaker 9: a contender. But if Tua stays healthy, then maybe I'll

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Speaker 9: be kicking myself in January.

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Speaker 8: We'll see.

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Speaker 4: How does vic Fangio change things down there. Certainly their defense,

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Speaker 4: they like their corners, and you know, they've always tried

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01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 4: to get those guys and to play at a high

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01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 4: level and kind of play in front of those those guys.

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Speaker 4: What does VIC fans You'll bring to the ta that

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01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 4: may give them a little bit of help on the

1365
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Speaker 4: other side of the ball when their offense is playing.

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Speaker 4: And it did. It played an elite level for like

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Speaker 4: a month and a half in the middle of the

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Speaker 4: season last year, you know, and then it came apart

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Speaker 4: when Tua went down. But Vic FANGI bring something to

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Speaker 4: the table to make give them some help on the

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Speaker 4: other side of the ball.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they're buzzing about him in Miami. I think the confidence,

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01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 9: the competence is a word I keep using. I mean,

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Speaker 9: think about what I just said about Bill O'Brien sort

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01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 9: of transforming the Patriots offense potentially, you know, the Dolphins

1376
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 9: did really need transformation on defense.

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01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 8: Things sort of fell apart.

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01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 9: Admittedly they deal dealt with more cornerback injuries I think

1379
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 9: than like.

1380
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Speaker 8: Anyone in the league.

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01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 9: So that was a tough thing for them to overcome.

1382
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 9: But Fangio, I think it's just gonna it's a more

1383
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 9: rapid transformation. From a scheme standpoint, things are going to

1384
01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 9: look really different this year for Miami.

1385
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,719
Speaker 8: And so I think we might see, you.

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01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 9: Know, some it will be really great, honestly in the

1387
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 9: early weeks to see how Fangio has transformed them. And

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01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 9: you know, it's it's hype season, but everything sounds like

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01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 9: it's going extremely well, and that they have so much

1390
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 9: young talent, so much athleticism that Fangio can really maximize.

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01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:25,879
Speaker 8: So it looks good like we're talking.

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01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 9: About on paper, and it when you're talking about this division,

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01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 9: it's like you can't you just praise everyone because they

1394
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 9: are so darn good. I mean, it really is the

1395
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 9: worst team in this division is led by Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 8: How strange is that?

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Speaker 2: That is very strange. It's gonna be an intense year

1398
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 2: for the AFC East. It's gonna be fun to watch

1399
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 2: these teams play each other and see who comes out

1400
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 2: as a champion.

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01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 3: I mean, we're rooting for.

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01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 2: The Bills over here, but we'll see how it all

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01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 2: comes together. From the Jets, the Dolphins and the Patriots. Henry,

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Speaker 2: we want to thank you for joining us on today's show.

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01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 2: Henry McKay from Fox Sports. The AFC East writer also

1406
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 2: covered the Patriots for seven seasons.

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Speaker 3: We'll see later, Henry.

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01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 8: Thank you, Yeah, thank you for having me.

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01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 4: Thanks Henry.

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01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 2: And later on in the show, we're going to get

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Speaker 2: into our tweet sheet.

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Speaker 3: We haven't touched that yet.

1413
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 2: We've got a topic going on which player in this

1414
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,839
Speaker 2: year's Bill's training camp is most compelling. We've had several

1415
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 2: calls that we've been able to take. If you want

1416
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 2: to get involved in the conversation, give us a call

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01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 2: here eighth, three to five fifty. Who do you think

1418
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 2: is the most compelling player? As practices for training camp

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Speaker 2: start in a week, don't go anywhere. We're back here

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Speaker 2: in a quick few minutes on One Bill's Live. We're

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Speaker 2: presented by Clydehealth on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Who is the

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01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 2: most compelling player in this year's training camp?

1423
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 3: That's our question for you today.

1424
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 2: We're going to head right over to the tweet sheet,

1425
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 2: brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment

1426
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 2: moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Several people have tweeted

1427
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 2: at us with their responses, and we'll go first from Jack.

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01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 2: He says, kin Kid is interesting, but I'm very compelled

1429
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 2: by the middle linebacker battle. My guy is Baylin Spector.

1430
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 2: I think he's been listening to you, Tasker. I think

1431
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 2: his size, instincts and work ethic may help him win

1432
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 2: the battle. But the last two third rounders, Williams and

1433
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 2: Bernard have great speed in athleticism to take the gig.

1434
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 2: A vet like aj Klein also knows the defense, no wing.

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01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,759
Speaker 4: The defense is big. But all these guys do or should,

1436
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 4: except for Williams. He's the newest guy, just got drafted.

1437
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 4: But Bernard should, Spector should, Dodson should, and of course

1438
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 4: Client should as well. I mean, there's no excuse for

1439
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:54,839
Speaker 4: them not knowing everything they need to know on the field.

1440
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:57,719
Speaker 4: It puts them all kind of in the same boat.

1441
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 4: That's why it's so intriguing. Who's put who's put the

1442
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 4: time in the in the playbook.

1443
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a very compelling battle. You think about

1444
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 2: Tremaine Edmunds, the guy who was in it last year

1445
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 2: and for several years for this defense. Was a type

1446
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 2: of player who grew up.

1447
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 3: In that role.

1448
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 2: He got drafted and and got put into that spot

1449
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 2: and grew up as a leader in that role, and

1450
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,600
Speaker 2: then by his last season with the Bills, he was

1451
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 2: a completely different player in his strengths and in the

1452
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 2: way that he commanded the defense. And that's what you

1453
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 2: need out of a middle linebacker. And possibly the coaching

1454
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 2: staff would be willing to go with a younger player

1455
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 2: because that's what they did with Tremaine. He grew into

1456
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 2: that role and he was a guy who was more

1457
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 2: quiet at first, and so maybe they're okay with having

1458
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 2: a younger guy like Dorian Williams or Baglin Spector or

1459
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 2: Terrelle Bernard in that spot because they want somebody who

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01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 2: can kind of, yes, have the skill set in season

1461
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 2: number one as a starter, but also be able to

1462
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,759
Speaker 2: grow as a starter within the defense.

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01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 4: Right it's I can't wait to see him start taking snaps.

1464
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 4: Certainly they're going to have to decide who's going to

1465
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 4: be the first guy out there, and who's going to

1466
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:10,719
Speaker 4: take how many reps are he going to take? When's

1467
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 4: it going to change, how they're going to rotate that

1468
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 4: the preseason games. Who's going to be instinctive and like

1469
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 4: we have said the last couple of days, what's going

1470
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 4: to change when they put the pads on. Who's going

1471
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 4: to shine and who's going to retreat? You know, who's

1472
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,719
Speaker 4: going to disappear and who's going to emerge. Fun stuff

1473
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 4: to think about.

1474
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 2: Lifelong fan says Dalton and Kate. I think him and

1475
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 2: Dawson Knox on the field at the same time can

1476
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 2: be a real problem for defenses. We've heard Dalton's name

1477
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 2: quite a bit with this question, so I want to

1478
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 2: ask you a different question along with life long what

1479
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 2: lifelong fans said, Dawson Knox and Dalton k and kid

1480
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 2: being on the field at the same time. That's called

1481
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 2: twelve personnel. How often do you think an offense like

1482
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 2: this will use twelve personnel. It's something that they've done

1483
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 2: before under Brian Dayball, but last year we didn't see

1484
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 2: as much of it.

1485
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,719
Speaker 4: We ran less twelve personnel than anybody than National Football

1486
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 4: League last year is like three point six percent of

1487
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 4: our offensive plays.

1488
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 3: There was not We're an eleven personal team last year.

1489
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're an eleven personnel team. That means one running back,

1490
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 4: one tight end and twelve personnel, one running back, two

1491
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 4: tight ends. You would like to think with those tight

1492
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 4: ends on the field, they're bigger, more physical, you would

1493
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 4: be a bigger threat to run the football. Maybe, But

1494
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 4: that means Kinkaid is going to be out there, you know,

1495
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 4: getting his knuckle in the dirt, you know, come up,

1496
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 4: firing off the ball and getting into a linebacker. Not

1497
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 4: really why you drafted him, but if you can run

1498
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 4: it out of there out of twelve personnel, then the

1499
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 4: defense counters by taking a safety off the field and

1500
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 4: putting a linebacker on the field, or a corner off

1501
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 4: the field and putting a linebacker on the field instead

1502
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 4: of going three corners, like with a Taron Johnson on

1503
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 4: the field, they put in Taylor Rap or a linebacker.

1504
01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 4: If they start doing that, all of a sudden, Dalton

1505
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 4: Kincaid stands up out of the two tight end set

1506
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 4: and splits out to a slot receiver. And you got

1507
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 4: to and like I said, like I do it facetiously,

1508
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 4: but now you got a fat guy gardening. Well, then

1509
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 4: that's the thing. And I said this early on, if

1510
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 4: can the Bills make a defense not have the right

1511
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 4: matchup when he's on the fields. If you can run

1512
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 4: it when they go light, and you can throw it

1513
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 4: when they go heavy, and they can't win either matchup.

1514
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 3: That could be their secret lesson this year.

1515
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 4: If you can.

1516
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 2: Run twelve personnel the way that these players should allow

1517
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 2: you to run twelve personnel, Meaning if Dalton Kinkaid is

1518
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 2: on the field, you don't know if they're going to

1519
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 2: run or throw the ball. It's very rare that you've

1520
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 2: seen an offense that can do that successful.

1521
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 3: He has a tight end that allows you to do that.

1522
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 2: And if they can do that well and at a

1523
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 2: high level, they're going to be really tough to stop.

1524
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 4: And it goes further than just they don't know whether

1525
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 4: you're gonna run it or pass it. They're worried if

1526
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 4: you do either one. They can't If you split out,

1527
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 4: you can't cover Dalton Kincaid and Steph Diggs and James Cook,

1528
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 4: you somebody, you can't do it because if you go

1529
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 4: zone defense, those guys are so good at finding dead areas.

1530
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 4: They are so good, and if you match up man to man,

1531
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 4: you can't match up with two of them, let alone

1532
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 4: all three. You got one guy covered up with your

1533
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 4: best corner guy. So it's not whether they don't even

1534
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 4: know if you're running or passing. If you run it,

1535
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 4: they aren't big enough to bear up and stop you.

1536
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 4: And if you throw it, you're snapping off chunks of

1537
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 4: yards because they got guys running open all over the

1538
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 4: field because they're athletes. That's the problem. And whether a defense,

1539
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 4: I don't care if they know you're gonna throw it

1540
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 4: or not. If they can't stop it anyway, with the

1541
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 4: people they've got on the field, you know you're you're

1542
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 4: headed for disaster as a defense. And that's where the

1543
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 4: Bills have a chance of getting people into in that spot.

1544
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 2: And that's why you see more defenses playing in nickel

1545
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 2: and why you see more defensive having defensives having big

1546
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 2: nichols who can stop the run, but who can also

1547
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 2: act as a nickel cornerback. That's why you see defenses

1548
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 2: that have linebackers that don't look like your prototypical linebacker,

1549
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 2: that look like skinnier guys who can they can stop

1550
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 2: the run, but their strength may be stopping the past.

1551
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 4: One of the things that we have Greg Cosel from

1552
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 4: NFL films on with us, and he has always said,

1553
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 4: when Leslie Fraser has been called on the defense. He

1554
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 4: is very adamant about the fact that Bill's never changed

1555
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 4: defensive personnel. It was three corners to safeties, two linebackers,

1556
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 4: always like ninety five plus percent of their snaps, except

1557
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 4: in short yardage and goal line when they were all pecking.

1558
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 4: He said, the only reason, or one of the main

1559
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 4: reasons that the Bills can play that and never change

1560
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 4: personnel is because of their third corner, and that's Taron Johnson.

1561
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 4: He's scrappy competitive in the run game. We've heard also

1562
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 4: guys like dan or Lobski, former NFL quarterback who's now

1563
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 4: with ESPN. He breaks down film and one of the

1564
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 4: things teams try to do is run a play where

1565
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 4: an offensive lineman comes out and is man on man

1566
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 4: on tearing. Because he's you know, he's a buck ninety, right,

1567
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 4: he's a small guy, but because he's so competitive and instinctive,

1568
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 4: he can kind of neutralize a big offensive lineman coming

1569
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 4: out either with by jumping out of his way and

1570
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 4: getting back into position or either you know, taking him

1571
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 4: on early before he gets ahead of steam, or just

1572
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 4: making a play. He's so competitive he can do that.

1573
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 4: So the Bills never worry about putting a linebacker in

1574
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 4: there to step up on a guard and stop the

1575
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 4: run game. They can leave Taran on the field. That's

1576
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 4: why the Bills defense is so good. They can play

1577
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 4: the same eleven guys no matter who you put on

1578
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 4: the field, and there's still a top five, top three,

1579
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 4: maybe top sinc the maybe number one defense. That's where

1580
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 4: they are. Not too many teams can do that, So

1581
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 4: the Bills, they throw out all these guys, Dalton Kin,

1582
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 4: k James Cook, Steph Diggs, Gabe Davis, and whoever else

1583
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 4: is going to be out there. They're a problem.

1584
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 2: And I hope that's what it's going to become week one,

1585
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:13,679
Speaker 2: that this team has got their stuff together, and surely

1586
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 2: enough they will. They've had plenty of players on this

1587
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,560
Speaker 2: team for several years. They know how the ship is

1588
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 2: run here. Those new guys hopefully they get folded in

1589
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 2: quickly and feel comfortable because this is going to be

1590
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 2: a fun year for this team. I want to transition

1591
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 2: into some news and notes because we haven't gotten to

1592
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 2: that yet, So let's go around the NFL presented by

1593
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 2: Kaleida Health. And yesterday we talked about the Cleveland Browns

1594
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 2: all white helmets that they released. They look impeccable.

1595
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 3: Love them.

1596
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:47,719
Speaker 2: The Seahawks are the next team to unveil what they're

1597
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 2: going to wear this year. They've got a nineties era

1598
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 2: of throwback jerseys that they're going to be wearing on

1599
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 2: Week eight against the Cleveland Browns. And they released a

1600
01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 2: pretty cool video of Jackson Smith Enigma and he was

1601
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 2: in bed and in his room was nineties themed, and

1602
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:09,759
Speaker 2: then he wakes up and he goes into the kitchen

1603
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 2: where you would think his mom is cooking him some breakfast.

1604
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 2: And then he rolls out into the garage and then

1605
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 2: there's a band playing in the garage, and then he

1606
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 2: rolls out onto the field. And I like those uniforms too.

1607
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 2: I'm a fan of the throwback look. And I thought

1608
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 2: for the Seahawks what they will be wearing in Week

1609
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 2: eight is pretty clean.

1610
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 4: The blue of the Seahawks blue thing really pops or

1611
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 4: really pops with the silver and the and the you

1612
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 4: know the lime green that they wear sometimes. Now you

1613
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 4: know it was an accent color in the beginning. Now

1614
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 4: they have the whole jerseys of it, but you know it,

1615
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:46,720
Speaker 4: it really is a good look and it and for

1616
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 4: guys of my and I guess you too. But my

1617
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 4: vintage I'm sixties. I'm sixties, you know, and and I

1618
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 4: played in the nineties, so that kind of rings a

1619
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 4: little gong for me. When when you see stuff like that,

1620
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 4: like the old the old Patriots stuff where the guy

1621
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 4: that the guy in the tri corner had is snapping

1622
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 4: the football, the Dolphins with the dolphin jumping through the

1623
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 4: fiery hoop, you know, the old time jerseys. It's a

1624
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 4: lot of fun. The Denver used to have blue helmets.

1625
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 4: Denver had a blue helmet with a D on it. Yeah,

1626
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 4: it was. It's really fun to see. And the Seahawks

1627
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 4: pretty cool. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.

1628
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 2: And it's cool to see a young player like Jackson

1629
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:30,440
Speaker 2: Smith and Jigbad be able to be in a video.

1630
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:31,719
Speaker 4: Like Born in two thousands.

1631
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 2: I know you don't know what the nineties are like

1632
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 2: to but I love seeing him get highlighted to. He's

1633
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:39,759
Speaker 2: going to have an exciting first year in the NFL.

1634
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 2: Other things going around the NFL, So the Jets are

1635
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:49,759
Speaker 2: planning to release wide receiver Denzel Mims if no trade happens.

1636
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 2: Interesting that they would be going that way for a

1637
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 2: second round pick out of the twenty twenty draft, but

1638
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 2: he struggled to find his way on the Jets due

1639
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 2: to some nagging injuries and competition in the wide receiver room.

1640
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:07,639
Speaker 2: Mims actually requested a trade from the Jets last year

1641
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 2: around this time, his agent claiming that the team wasn't

1642
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:14,959
Speaker 2: giving Mims a legitimate opportunity to establish himself within the offense.

1643
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 2: And that request came months after the Jets selected Garrett Wilson,

1644
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 2: who ended up being the NFL's Offensive Rookie of the

1645
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 2: Year in twenty twenty two.

1646
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 3: So we'll see what happens with that.

1647
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 2: But I think Denzel Mems is a younger player who

1648
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:33,639
Speaker 2: has some potential in the NFL. You would wonder if

1649
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 2: a trade is going to happen, especially when teams get

1650
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 2: into training camp and injuries start to happen and then

1651
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:45,520
Speaker 2: there's teams looking for wide receivers or looking for different players.

1652
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, Mims had a he just it wasn't that he

1653
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:50,639
Speaker 4: wasn't good enough to make the Jet. He just couldn't

1654
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 4: stay help It worked for him, kind of herky jerky

1655
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 4: start to his career. It's unfortunate, but it's a guy

1656
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:58,600
Speaker 4: that you know now where and we've said it. The

1657
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 4: Jets have done a lot of really wonderful things in

1658
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 4: the last couple of off seasons. They've gotten better. They

1659
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 4: acted like anything but the old jets that people used

1660
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 4: to make fun of. They have done a lot of

1661
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:13,600
Speaker 4: things right and it's starting to pay dividends because you

1662
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:15,640
Speaker 4: got a guy like this. Mems is the kind of

1663
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 4: guy that they used to sign extensions to right because

1664
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:20,679
Speaker 4: they thought, well, he's there as soon as you can stand. Now,

1665
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 4: they don't have to wait on players like that because

1666
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 4: they've got They've drafted so well and they've got a

1667
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 4: really good roster. It's where the Bills have been the

1668
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 4: last handful of years. It's hard. It's a hard roster

1669
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 4: to make, and Mims is going to be a victim

1670
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 4: of that.

1671
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 2: I think one more for you before we had to break.

1672
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 2: Veteran running back Leonard Floyd is working out today for

1673
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 2: the Patriots. According to a report, Fornette visited the Patriots

1674
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 2: as a free agent last offseason. They've appreciated his skill

1675
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 2: set for a while. If he signs, he would be

1676
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:52,959
Speaker 2: a valuable depth piece for the team. Can't ask Formandri

1677
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 2: Stevenson to do everything. For seventeen games. He was a

1678
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 2: big part of the offense last season really broke out

1679
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 2: in two seasons. Really, Remondre Stevenson has been around, so

1680
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 2: Leonard Fournette would be a help for the Patriots in

1681
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 2: the running back room. All right, break time for us.

1682
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll be closing up shop here

1683
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:13,839
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live. We're presented by Clydeahealth on Buffalo

1684
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 2: Bills Radio. All right, we'll round out the tweetsheet here

1685
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 2: with one more response from Eric. He says, O Cyrus

1686
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 2: torings he will end up? Will he end up being

1687
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 2: the big bodied, road ranging grading interior offensive lineman we've

1688
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 2: been missing. How big of a steal is he going

1689
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 2: to end up being for the second round or are

1690
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 2: we going to see him turn into a wyat Teller situation.

1691
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 2: I really hope that doesn't happen. I'm excited to see him.

1692
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 4: Me too, me too. You know, I told you I

1693
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:00,799
Speaker 4: was kind of getting excited about thinking, uh, thinking about

1694
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 4: how this offensive line could come together. The guys, they've got,

1695
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 4: the depth, they've got the competition that's going to be there.

1696
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:10,599
Speaker 4: I'd love to see it at least at some points

1697
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 4: this year where this offensive line is really dominates. We

1698
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 4: haven't seen a dominant off We've seen good offensive lines

1699
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 4: here and.

1700
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:18,799
Speaker 2: Years past about it, talking about it and the potential

1701
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 2: of it this year. It gets us really excited the

1702
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:23,720
Speaker 2: what you can do with the offense. When you have

1703
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 2: a dominant five guys, a dominant seven guys a part

1704
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 2: of your lineup, you can do so much more with

1705
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 2: your run game. Your quarterback just feels at ease a

1706
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 2: lot more in the pocket. And yes, there were times

1707
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 2: last year where the offensive line had great games and

1708
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 2: Josh Allen did have time in the pocket and the

1709
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 2: running game looked great.

1710
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:43,639
Speaker 3: But I go back to what I said, it's the.

1711
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 2: Consistency of being able to put together game in, game out.

1712
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 2: That's what Super Bowl teams are able to do.

1713
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:52,640
Speaker 4: That's right. And they've got not only enough guys in

1714
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 4: competition to really elevate the play all the time and

1715
01:28:56,200 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 4: consistently across, but to cover for injuries and multiple injuries.

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Speaker 4: They've got a lot of guys that are really really

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Speaker 4: accomplished players in the league. So we'll see o Cyrus

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Speaker 4: Torrens kind of the centerpiece second round draft pick, A

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Speaker 4: big dude, big guy. Connor mcgovernor, same thing he's played

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Speaker 4: for three or four years for the Dallas Cowboys. He's

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Speaker 4: a big dude.

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Speaker 2: David Edwards also comes from the La Rams. He was

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Speaker 2: a starter for two seasons. So you've got guys with

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Speaker 2: starting experience on really good rosters here coming to the Bills.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see how it all comes together.

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Speaker 3: Great topic for today.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow, we've got Sam Monson coming on from PFF, so

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Speaker 2: it'll be exciting to talk to him. So make sure

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Speaker 2: you tune in tomorrow from one to three it'll be

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Speaker 2: me and Steve Tasker. Enjoy the rest of your Wednesday.