Speaker 1: On this episode of The Heat Check. Yes, sir, it's
Speaker 1: a Sunday night and it is preview time, previewing every
Speaker 1: team in the NBA by division, starting with Oh Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Rolls, Royce, the Golden Goose, the Jordan Number one
Speaker 1: type of division. That's the Pacific Division, the Big Boys, Kings, Warriors, Clippers, Lakers,
Speaker 1: and Sons. So many damn stars in this division and
Speaker 1: it's likely all five teams are gonna make the playoffs
Speaker 1: this year. So also, we have a great interview with
Speaker 1: CBS Sports Radio and NBA insider Bill Ryder oh Man. Folks,
Speaker 1: the NBA season is just right around the corner. We
Speaker 1: already got preseason games, So come on, William, do me
Speaker 1: a favor and drop that generic ass beat what should.
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Speaker 1: NBA camp is under way, folks, so it's about that time.
Speaker 1: Time to preview the NBA divisions for the new season.
Speaker 1: There's a lot that's happened so far in the off season. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the Damian Lillard thing was overwhelming. Yeah, it was. It
Speaker 1: was pretty much what we all thought about all offseason.
Speaker 1: That in Harden and so a lot of the players
Speaker 1: who have moved teams. I bet you forgot Bradley Beal
Speaker 1: was even on the Suns, right, happened so long ago.
Speaker 1: I bet you didn't even remember that Eric Gordon is
Speaker 1: on the Suns. So let's preview the division and get
Speaker 1: into it, because I'm sure there are some things that
Speaker 1: you need to remember. We will not miss any of
Speaker 1: the news. You know that we're not going to miss
Speaker 1: any of the tea. So I wanted to make sure, though,
Speaker 1: while it's still the quiet season, that maybe we get
Speaker 1: everybody up to speed for every damn team. We start
Speaker 1: out with the Pacific Division. They have five teams, all
Speaker 1: of which you can make a very serious argument could
Speaker 1: win the title this year if the right things happen right,
Speaker 1: if the right, right right things happen for the team.
Speaker 1: But we gotta start with the team that I affectionately
Speaker 1: call our dubs. Long time everyone knows, longtime lifelong Warriors fan,
Speaker 1: that's me. So we gotta start there. Gotta give the
Speaker 1: Kings of the Hill their props. Yeah, I know, they
Speaker 1: didn't even get to the Western Conference Finals last year,
Speaker 1: but that is not There was a lot happening around
Speaker 1: the team. You know what I'm saying. Oh, Draymond punched,
Speaker 1: fucked up the vibe anyway. Golden State Warriors, their win
Speaker 1: total is sitting there at forty eight and a half wins,
Speaker 1: which means that Vegas thinks they're gonna win me somewhere
Speaker 1: between forty eight and will they Let's get into it.
Speaker 1: The new editions. Chris Paul Brandon, Pojaempski, Poja Semski. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You know what I mean, dar
Speaker 1: Yo Sarich, Rudy gay Uzman Garuba, that's a sneaky one.
Speaker 1: Remember he was the first round pick. Rodney McGruder who
Speaker 1: has beef currently probably still with Clay Thompson and Draymond Green.
Speaker 1: Remember Clay called him, I think he called him a
Speaker 1: bitch or something like a couple of years ago, made
Speaker 1: NBA TV. Everyody's like, oh, Clay's the Savage Clay Clay Clay,
Speaker 1: and then Draymond got on National TV and said something
Speaker 1: else I mean about him, But he's on the team.
Speaker 1: Corey Joseph from the Detroit Pistons also on the team
Speaker 1: sneaky pickup. Out is Jordan Poole. Out is Dante DiVincenzo,
Speaker 1: Andre Igwa Igwa gimme Igwa Dalla and James James I
Speaker 1: got taken second overall and no one knows why Heisman
Speaker 1: the Warriors started out last season. It was just a mess.
Speaker 1: Is who has the tape? Who leaked it? Why did
Speaker 1: Jordan Poole get hit in the face? What he say
Speaker 1: to Draymond apparently the new leaks coming out, or that
Speaker 1: he said that Draymond Green was Steph Curry's overpriced backpack,
Speaker 1: which I heard it was actually even worse than that.
Speaker 1: The puncher ends up getting one hundred million dollar extension
Speaker 1: for all the trouble, doesn't get suspended for all the
Speaker 1: trouble that he calls, and Jordan Poole, the guy who
Speaker 1: got assaulted, ends up in Washington, DC on one of
Speaker 1: the most dysfunctional franchises in the NBA. Seems fair, seems fair? Right,
Speaker 1: that's Siberia, Folks. Rough break for Jordan Poole. But at
Speaker 1: least he's got Kuzma to show him off in Chocolate City,
Speaker 1: little nightclub actions, show him where all the fashion is.
Speaker 1: See what's popping off on U Street, and I tell
Speaker 1: you the block is hot. I know it from personal experience.
Speaker 1: The block is hot on U Street twenty four to seven.
Speaker 1: The big addition, of course, is Chris Paul, the point
Speaker 1: god CP three, The same guy that I said might
Speaker 1: be a big issue for the Suns is now on
Speaker 1: the Warriors. Why why did I say he might be
Speaker 1: a big issue? Let me recap what I said after
Speaker 1: the trade went down. Chris Paul averaged twelve five and
Speaker 1: seven in the playoffs, which was which was off his
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three season average of
Speaker 1: fourteen four and nine. So that's obviously in itself the
Speaker 1: least productive number in his entire seventeen year career. Even
Speaker 1: in Chris Paul's rookie year he averaged sixteen to five
Speaker 1: and eight, and that was his worst statistical season until
Speaker 1: last year. And remember this, Chris Paul's final game as
Speaker 1: a Phoenix Sun. He was a minus three nine And
Speaker 1: I think he's thirty nine years old, so sweet justice.
Speaker 1: He missed twenty three regular season games last year. Yep,
Speaker 1: thirty nine years old. Yep. We did a little mass school.
Speaker 1: What exactly Golden State expects from this slow, undersized point
Speaker 1: guard who could probably give you twenty two minutes fifty
Speaker 1: eight sixty games. And then, of course we know about
Speaker 1: the playoffs what he's gonna do there, which is not
Speaker 1: a lot. Apparently Steph thinks the world of Chris Paul
Speaker 1: because they've been playing pick up, according to Steph all summer,
Speaker 1: to help them prep for the season. I know this though.
Speaker 1: The one thing I will say that's a positive is
Speaker 1: I saw Chris Paul get like just throw an absolute
Speaker 1: dime back door to Klay Thompson. He did not even
Speaker 1: expect because he's probably never seen it in his pro
Speaker 1: career from a teammate. The Warriors team obviously had had
Speaker 1: some issues. It's not just chemistry. Staying healthy is going
Speaker 1: to be the biggest one. And it's not Paul only
Speaker 1: and his what was that Chris Paul's secret juice, secret stuff,
Speaker 1: but Klay Thompson as well. He needs the secret stuff
Speaker 1: of him himself because he is on the back end
Speaker 1: of his career with an acl and an achilles tear
Speaker 1: that happened not too long ago. Steph, of course, always
Speaker 1: has to be healthy. When he's not healthy, the team
Speaker 1: is a lottery team, and especially Draymond Green, who's, by
Speaker 1: the way, check's notes already hurt, already hurt yep our Dubs.
Speaker 1: Little ankle injury for our Dubs. In addition, the team
Speaker 1: needs to learn how to win on the road again,
Speaker 1: because they were an absolute disaster away from the Chase Center.
Speaker 1: I do think the biggest issue is probably depth. They
Speaker 1: brought in a seventeen year vet. Let me say that again.
Speaker 1: They brought in a seventeen year vet, not seventeen year old.
Speaker 1: A seventeen year vet in Rudy Gay and a journeyman
Speaker 1: Rodney Magruder, Dario Sarich and twelve year pro Corey Joseph.
Speaker 1: They were like, remember when we said we're gonna go
Speaker 1: two timeline thing, we are, but the timeline word going
Speaker 1: is back back in the time. We're only taking guys
Speaker 1: that have been in the league fifteen years and longer
Speaker 1: twelve if you're really good. There's still Kaminga and Moody,
Speaker 1: the babies of the crew. Although Kaminga all off season
Speaker 1: was rumored to WANTA Trade was not happy with his
Speaker 1: usage in the playoffs. Not exactly a super deep bench,
Speaker 1: But listen, our Dubs always contenders as long as they
Speaker 1: have Steph Curry, Kevon Looney and a very healthy, very
Speaker 1: productive Draymond Green. They have Klay Thompson who's now playing
Speaker 1: power forward full time and who many people say is washed,
Speaker 1: but did lead the NBA somehow with three hundred and
Speaker 1: one made three pointers last year. They also have the
Speaker 1: unsung hero, which I just referenced. I'm talking about Kevon Looney. Tough,
Speaker 1: durable on court IQ is out of this world. He's
Speaker 1: one of the most effective rebounders in the league. Steve
Speaker 1: Kerr had many glowing things to say about Keavon in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, but this one stuck out. He said, I
Speaker 1: think Loune is one of the best centers in the league.
Speaker 1: I really do. People don't recognize it because he's not dunking,
Speaker 1: shooting threes and all that stuff. But the guy is
Speaker 1: a flat out winner. He's a machine. We wouldn't be
Speaker 1: here without him. That's facts. They wouldn't have gotten out
Speaker 1: of the first round without Kevon Looney last year. I
Speaker 1: know it, I saw it, and he was effective. Golden
Speaker 1: State is going to be at least a regular season
Speaker 1: force this year because in the Steph era, they usually
Speaker 1: are I'm not sure that this team is any better
Speaker 1: than last year when they won forty four games. I
Speaker 1: see him about the same this year. I can see
Speaker 1: them very easily being a playing team, or I could
Speaker 1: see them being a five or six eight seed. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be one of those things that comes down
Speaker 1: to the world. As an aside, maybe the biggest loss
Speaker 1: of the off season was Bob Myers, their longtime GM,
Speaker 1: the architect of the dynasty. When this team needs help,
Speaker 1: it's always been able to find a rabbit of the
Speaker 1: hut because Bob Myers. What is my man, Mike Dunleavy
Speaker 1: Junior going to do to fill his shoes? Big shout
Speaker 1: out to Mike Dunleavy Junior. You have made it in life.
Speaker 1: You are a Portland legend. One thing is for sure.
Speaker 1: Of course, the Warriors are gonna be very fun to watch.
Speaker 1: I am not sure our dubs are. I can't actually
Speaker 1: say is dynasty, Baby, We're back, can't mush us. Let's
Speaker 1: move on to the LA Clippers. Their win totals sitting
Speaker 1: there at forty six and a half by Vegas. This
Speaker 1: is who they've added kJ Martin. They have re signed
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook, they got Josh I don't wear underwear, Primo,
Speaker 1: Xavier Moon, and Jordan Miller out of Miami. They lost
Speaker 1: Eric Gordon. But let's be real, this team just hasn't
Speaker 1: made at many moves. They've been looking and trying and
Speaker 1: waiting to scoop up James Harden for a discount, and
Speaker 1: that has not happened yet. But let's be real. No
Speaker 1: team has more questions coming into this season, and no
Speaker 1: team has done less to address their issues than the
Speaker 1: LA Clippers. That is why the Clippers are my team
Speaker 1: of this division. Ah, I want to believe, I want to,
Speaker 1: but they are in desperate need of a real point
Speaker 1: guard and are currently holding up the Philadelphia seventy six
Speaker 1: ers kind of at gunpoint for James Harden. You will
Speaker 1: take this one first round pick and you will like it.
Speaker 1: They're offering Marcus Morris, Rob Covington, Oh my god, Roco
Speaker 1: a first round pick and a swap. Daryl Morey is like, bitch, please,
Speaker 1: I do not want Roco, Are you fucking serious? No?
Speaker 1: I want Terrence Man Baby, the versatile six seven long wingspan,
Speaker 1: can't play point guard, can't play small ball five. And
Speaker 1: the Clippers were like, no, we don't have a lot
Speaker 1: of young assets, so we kind of don't really want
Speaker 1: to give them up. So that's where we're at on
Speaker 1: the trade. Even though Woj says they are disinclined to
Speaker 1: up their offer because there is no other offer, we
Speaker 1: know that everyone knows that any NBA fan knows there
Speaker 1: are no other offers for James Harden. They did bring
Speaker 1: in a couple of young players of interest. kJ Martin
Speaker 1: played the right way when he played for the Houston Rockets.
Speaker 1: He's Kenyan Martin's son. Kenyan Martin lives in LA. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be an amazing fit. I think for him,
Speaker 1: a new star for his career. He gets out from
Speaker 1: under what was clearly a very dysfunctional organization until emy
Speaker 1: Udoka came in. He probably is gonna carve himself out
Speaker 1: a nice little role. They signed Josh Primo on a
Speaker 1: two way contract because let's be honest, they're not giving
Speaker 1: him anything more than that after what he's been accused
Speaker 1: of doing. But the player, Josh Primo, outside of all
Speaker 1: the semantics involved, this is a fine, fine young player.
Speaker 1: Clippers loved him. I remember talking to Jerry West about
Speaker 1: Josh Primo right after the draft two summers ago. He
Speaker 1: loved him. They wanted to pick him up before San
Speaker 1: Antonio snaked them. So they are thinking, we got Josh
Speaker 1: Primo at a discount. Baby, Oh boy, we have a
Speaker 1: guard of the future. So what are these Clippers other
Speaker 1: than the forty four and thirty eight fifth seed from
Speaker 1: last year? Very talented, pretty much off an injured team
Speaker 1: facing a bunch of new crackdown rules from the NBA
Speaker 1: on you guessed it, what we're calling the Kawhi Rule
Speaker 1: low management. Kawhi is saying he's healthy. PG is saying
Speaker 1: he's completely healthy. But with those two, those guys are
Speaker 1: like the basketball version the LA Chargers, And I can't
Speaker 1: tell which one is Keenan Allen and which one is
Speaker 1: Mike Williams. Who is gonna be the Mike Williams of
Speaker 1: this year's LA Clippers. I don't know. It's like whack
Speaker 1: a mole. One year it's PG, one year it's Kawhi,
Speaker 1: then back and forth and back and forth again. Kawhi
Speaker 1: has never played more than fifty seven games, never played
Speaker 1: more than fifty seven games in his time in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Paul George has averaged forty seven games per season in
Speaker 1: LA as well. Harden not exactly the guy that you
Speaker 1: want leading your franchise when you have multiple marquee stars
Speaker 1: down with an injury. So I don't know how he
Speaker 1: really helps them. The upside in theory great. Do you
Speaker 1: really want to give up Terrence Man for him? Does
Speaker 1: it really move the needle for you? Does it? Because
Speaker 1: it doesn't for me. The Clippers have been skating by
Speaker 1: on their potential for a very long time, and I
Speaker 1: just can't believe anymore. I've been I've been hoodwinked. I
Speaker 1: have been bamboozled for too many years. I've been on
Speaker 1: the Clippers hype train now for since they got Kawhi,
Speaker 1: since twenty nineteen, and I am done. If I have
Speaker 1: to be super optimistic, like I said, I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: to put a brave face on Josh Primo could be
Speaker 1: very good, maybe bones Highland. I saw him throw behind
Speaker 1: the back pass to Kawhi Leonard in a preseason game tonight,
Speaker 1: so there's that. Xavier Moon. I watched him be absolutely
Speaker 1: unguardable in Summer League. I called him trash. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I wasn't familiar with your game. Xavier Moon.
Speaker 1: I wasn't familiar with the fact that you are a
Speaker 1: mid range machine, and so if he's that at the
Speaker 1: next level, this could get very interesting. Maybe they'll be
Speaker 1: very fun. Maybe it'll be Josh Primo and Xavier Moon
Speaker 1: the back court of the LA Clippers future. Just in time,
Speaker 1: those household names, just in time. Today debut a very
Speaker 1: new stadium that's very expensive. But mostly I'll be waiting.
Speaker 1: I'll be sitting there, waiting for the inevitable injuries which
Speaker 1: will derail the team that I was sure was going
Speaker 1: to the finals the past three years. Fool me once,
Speaker 1: shame on me, foom me twice. Can't get fooled again.
Speaker 1: Let's move forward. Let's move forward to the LA Lakers
Speaker 1: win total sitting there at forty seven and a half.
Speaker 1: They re signed Austin Reeves, which was highway robbery. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure how they were able to sign him at
Speaker 1: that low of a deal, but he wanted to stay
Speaker 1: in LA to play with Lebron and I don't blame him.
Speaker 1: They re signed D'Angelo Russell to a team friendly deal.
Speaker 1: They re signed Jared Vanderbilt, and they drafted Hood Schafino
Speaker 1: over there from Indiana. They drafted somebody else who's not
Speaker 1: as important to this list. They added gave Vincent, Christian Wood,
Speaker 1: gave Vincent from Miami, Christian Wood from the Mavericks. Cam Reddish,
Speaker 1: who was on a bunch of different teams. I think
Speaker 1: Portland was his last team. Jackson Hayes and Torrian Prince.
Speaker 1: They lost Mobileau and the Lakers. They lay it's been woh,
Speaker 1: it's been a roller coaster of a year. They've remade
Speaker 1: their entire roster over the course of the trade deadline.
Speaker 1: They took momentum from that move to the Western Conference Finals.
Speaker 1: They did get swept, but it was competitive all four games.
Speaker 1: That's like what me as a Portland Trailblazer fan tells
Speaker 1: myself and others when I talk about how we competed
Speaker 1: against the Warriors in twenty nineteen. So I get it.
Speaker 1: It's like totally fair. They went from oh, boy is
Speaker 1: Rob plink of the worst GM in the league to like, wow,
Speaker 1: he made some fucking money moves. He I gotta give
Speaker 1: some a little bit of shine to Jesse Buss. I've
Speaker 1: been told I don't give enough shine to him. So
Speaker 1: they finished forty three and thirty nine seventh place, won
Speaker 1: the play in balled out before getting into the buzz
Speaker 1: saw that Jokic and Jamal Mury Jamal Nba as they
Speaker 1: call him, they put an end to a very we'll
Speaker 1: call it a quick run in an emphatic fashion. That
Speaker 1: Lebron James pretended he was going to retire after that
Speaker 1: was how bad the demoralization was. He said at the
Speaker 1: post game conference, I'm not sure if I'm ever gonna
Speaker 1: play basketball game. That's where we're at this year. I
Speaker 1: think they're better. They did lose Lonnie Walker, Tristan Thompson,
Speaker 1: and like I said, Mobamba adding gave Vincent I think
Speaker 1: is interesting. Although Miami Heat fans are already saying that
Speaker 1: Laker fans are gonna hate him, so I don't know
Speaker 1: about that. Cam Reddish was supposed to be the most
Speaker 1: talented duke player in the class of Zion and RJ. Barrett,
Speaker 1: but he just hurt his ankle. He's a lot of
Speaker 1: upside and I don't know if he's going to be
Speaker 1: able to ever live up to that Pelican Center and
Speaker 1: Jackson Hey says a ton of potential, very long, very athletic,
Speaker 1: can do a bunch of different things. One of those
Speaker 1: I would call it modern centers and Tourian Prince, who
Speaker 1: I love. Torrian Prince is a dog. He is going
Speaker 1: to be an integral part of whatever the Lakers do.
Speaker 1: And then you add Christian Wood and they stole them.
Speaker 1: They stole them, stole them. Vet Minimum that is some
Speaker 1: nice depth. Team was very very thin last year. They
Speaker 1: only played eight guys in their close out game against
Speaker 1: Denver and only one of them. One of them got
Speaker 1: six minutes. So the Lakers have an insane amount of length, athleticism,
Speaker 1: a lot of versatile pieces. If they can get something
Speaker 1: out of Ruey Hachi Mura, who played really well in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. By the way, Ruey Hachimura worked out with
Speaker 1: Lebron and Phil Handy strength and conditioning coach, skills coach
Speaker 1: for the Lakers. But Phil Handy's been working out with
Speaker 1: Lebron for a very long time, and what do they do.
Speaker 1: They tried to teach Ruey how to be Lebron James
Speaker 1: woo wooh. That's exciting. Lakers won sixty six percent of
Speaker 1: their games after the trade deadline last year. If that
Speaker 1: carries over to this year, they'll win fifty four games.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be able. I think to hum on all
Speaker 1: cylinders like they did after the trade deadline last year,
Speaker 1: except for now there's more depth, so you don't have
Speaker 1: to worry as much about your star players being healthy
Speaker 1: the entire season. Of course, you still have to all
Speaker 1: of it hinges on Anthony day to day Davis and
Speaker 1: Lebron James playing a bunch of games. But Christian Wood,
Speaker 1: who averaged eighteen and ten last year, and Jackson haz
Speaker 1: are very very serviceable backups who have a ton of potential,
Speaker 1: a ton of upside, and now they basically have baby Lebron. Right,
Speaker 1: basically have baby Lebron. This is a very dangerous team.
Speaker 1: They can very very easily make the Western Conference Finals again.
Speaker 1: I am bullish yet hoping for their demise. As a
Speaker 1: Portland Trailblazer fan and obviously a lifelong Dubs fan, let's
Speaker 1: move forward of Phoenix Suns. Fifty four and a half
Speaker 1: games is their win total by Vegas. They add buw
Speaker 1: Bull Love Bu Bull from the Orlando Magic. They add
Speaker 1: Utah Watt Nabe aka Johnny Utah from the Brooklyn Nets.
Speaker 1: They add Eric Gordon from the Clippers. Oh that's a
Speaker 1: sneaky pickup. Nas Little and Keon Johnson come over in
Speaker 1: their trade, Grayson Allen comes over from the trade, Yusuf
Speaker 1: Nurkic comes over from the trade to Portland, and of
Speaker 1: course Bradley Beal has been stolen from the Washington Wizards
Speaker 1: for I think a dirty muffin a couple second round picks.
Speaker 1: They lose domin Ayton Aton, they lose DeAndre Aton, they
Speaker 1: lose campaign to Moni Kamara, and of course Chris Paul.
Speaker 1: I am very surprised by what the Phoenix Suns have
Speaker 1: been able to do. I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1: I thought they were barbecue chicken on a habachi. After
Speaker 1: the Bradley Beal trade, I was like, ooh, three guards,
Speaker 1: and like, well, that's I think eighty five percent of yours.
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do now? I think they have
Speaker 1: four guys on their roster At that point, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you guys all need the ball, and you have no
Speaker 1: depth and you have no money, So what you're about
Speaker 1: to do? Then they went out and signed a bunch
Speaker 1: of guys on very low contracts who want to get
Speaker 1: a ring and love playing with Kevin Durant. They went
Speaker 1: out and made some judicious trades and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: they got very solid. It's very important because at the
Speaker 1: top of the roster are some players they get hurt
Speaker 1: all the time, all the time. So let's start with
Speaker 1: a detailed look at the losses. Three major pieces from
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one finals run Chris Paul, DeAndre, Aiden
Speaker 1: campaign all have taken their talent somewhere else. Right, huge
Speaker 1: part of what made that team so special, so they
Speaker 1: had to get some return. The return was massive. Bradley
Speaker 1: bealver Bradley Beal. Let's be real. He is not a closer.
Speaker 1: He's never gonna do shit for you in a fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: even in January. But I tell you what, when you
Speaker 1: need some buckets, like midway through the second quarter, Bradley
Speaker 1: Beal can do that for you. Oh boy. Bradley Beal
Speaker 1: was a scoring leader in the NBA a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago. He is an absolute bucket, a pure sweat guy,
Speaker 1: true and true. Cannot play defense worth a lick. But
Speaker 1: I don't know if it matters. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it matters. He is a bucket. The issue with Beal
Speaker 1: is the same as the issue with Kevin Durant. Durant
Speaker 1: hasn't played more than forty seven games in three of
Speaker 1: the last four seasons. Bradley Beal hasn't played a full
Speaker 1: season since twenty eighteen. Fifty seven games, sixty games, forty games,
Speaker 1: and fifty games. Maybe you could say he was loafing
Speaker 1: maybe one of those seasons, maybe two, but come on now,
Speaker 1: not all four. He's been hurt. They traded DeAndre Ayton,
Speaker 1: who was a number one overall pick, for Yusuf Nurkic,
Speaker 1: who was discarded from Denver because they had a guy
Speaker 1: named Jokic, and then he became the primary center for Portland.
Speaker 1: Broke his leg and it's never been the same really
Speaker 1: since doesn't really play deepense. Great guy in the locker room,
Speaker 1: I hear. I don't know how that helps you win
Speaker 1: a championship in terms of defending, but hopefully Frank Vogel
Speaker 1: will figure it out because that's his specialty with big men.
Speaker 1: They wanted to get rid of the locker room problem
Speaker 1: and that was DeAndre Ayton, so they discarded him, and
Speaker 1: they said, and they sold it to the world that
Speaker 1: Nurkic was a better fit, even though we know he's
Speaker 1: not as good. But also, to be fair to new
Speaker 1: owner Matt ISSHPIA. They have spent a lot of money
Speaker 1: and they had to give DeAndre ad In a MAX
Speaker 1: because they had to pick up that restricted free agency
Speaker 1: contract when he got offered the MAX from Indiana. So
Speaker 1: they said, let's shed some salary cap and let's get
Speaker 1: on with our lives. ISHPI and crew have worked over
Speaker 1: time to surround a starting five of Nurkic kd Okog,
Speaker 1: Booker and Beale with some firepower off the bench. They
Speaker 1: bring in Grayson Allen, a certified pest and a three
Speaker 1: point sniper, Eric Gordon kind of the same certified pest
Speaker 1: three point sniper Utah Watt Nabe can do so many
Speaker 1: damn things, but also really good three point shooter. Na's
Speaker 1: little athletic can defend a lot of upside was buried
Speaker 1: on the bench in Portland. Bull Bull. You've seen him
Speaker 1: be able to do some things as well. From the perimeter.
Speaker 1: He's one of those unicorn seven footers. Keon Johnson can
Speaker 1: jump out of the gym. He's still very young, very raw,
Speaker 1: but ultimately you need bodies. When you have guys who
Speaker 1: consistently go out with injury. It is shocking, shocking in
Speaker 1: some ways because I thought the bench absolutely sucked for Phoenix,
Speaker 1: and now it might be one of their more strong points.
Speaker 1: The Suns, like the Lakers and the Clippers, are gonna
Speaker 1: be pretty much a slave to their injured list. If
Speaker 1: they stay healthy, awesome, If they don't, not so awesome.
Speaker 1: Red alert WI bad shit. Even if one of the
Speaker 1: Big three has injury issues, it's gonna be tough to
Speaker 1: beat them anyway. You need multiple guys to go down
Speaker 1: in order for them to be kind of fucked. I
Speaker 1: do think, though, there's a real shot that the Suns
Speaker 1: could be, if people get injured, a playing team. But
Speaker 1: that's a bold prediction that we'll talk about another time.
Speaker 1: The Sun's finished fourth last year with a forty five
Speaker 1: and thirty seven record. But let's be real. There was
Speaker 1: a huge storm cloud looming over the team because Robert Sarver,
Speaker 1: their owner. He was removed for all the isms misogyny, racism,
Speaker 1: probably plagiarism, sexism, homo eroticism, I don't know out of
Speaker 1: all the isms. He gotta let go. They said, you
Speaker 1: gotta sell a team, boy, This is a team to watch, though,
Speaker 1: team to watch, and then finally is it a finally
Speaker 1: it is the final? Isn't it, Yes, is the finally,
Speaker 1: I can't even get them all straight. There's so many
Speaker 1: damn good teams on this division. We got to talk
Speaker 1: about the Sacramento Kings. Their win total fucking shady forty
Speaker 1: four and a half. That is a shady ass win total.
Speaker 1: This was a team that was third in the West
Speaker 1: last year. Were they not? They were additions Sasha Vizenkov
Speaker 1: euro League MVP, Neurlans Noel big Man, JaVale McGee big man.
Speaker 1: Jalen Noel played really well for the Minnesota Timberwolves as
Speaker 1: a bench piece, went from a ten day guy, two
Speaker 1: way guy to a real rotation dude. Jeremy Lamb I
Speaker 1: think he's washed. And Chris Warte, who I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot of potential around. They lose Rashaun Holmes, but
Speaker 1: let's be real, Rashan wanted out of there. They lose
Speaker 1: to me as Kta, who they didn't have a spot for.
Speaker 1: They sadly lose Terence Davis who's still a free agent,
Speaker 1: Matthew Dilodova and some other scrubs. The Kings, of course,
Speaker 1: were d the surprise team last year. They won the
Speaker 1: Pacific Division. What was it forty four to one? That
Speaker 1: was a nice little ticket. Forty eight and thirty four,
Speaker 1: forty a and thirty four. They get better this year,
Speaker 1: and what the fuck does Vegas do? They say, we
Speaker 1: don't believe, we don't believe forty four and a half
Speaker 1: wins We're gonna give you. That's some bullshit. Anyway, back
Speaker 1: to the Kings, they were so much fun to watch.
Speaker 1: They took the Warriors to the brink. They were Harrison
Speaker 1: Barnes opened three away from moving on in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: They do lose a little bit of minor pieces, nothing
Speaker 1: too great of importance. We talked about the losses. Delavdova's
Speaker 1: losses a clubhouse leader, of course, will be felt. But
Speaker 1: they do add Sasha for Zenkoff first basket in the
Speaker 1: preseason game, dribble handoff off the screen from Alex lenn
Speaker 1: three splash, get used to it. Daron Fox just did
Speaker 1: an interview the other day and he said, if Zenkoff
Speaker 1: made one hundred and forty three out of one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty shots in one drilling practice, the dude six'
Speaker 1: nine beast to guard gonna take him some time to
Speaker 1: move up in the, ROTATION i. Think but when he,
Speaker 1: does he has the ability to hit some big shots
Speaker 1: in big. MOMENTS i think a lot Of kings, FANS
Speaker 1: i think a lot Of kings fans are expecting, things
Speaker 1: hoping things will work out with. Him but to, me
Speaker 1: the THING i like about This kings team is that
Speaker 1: they know how to. Win we cannot neglect the fact
Speaker 1: That sabonis had a torn ligament in his thumb the entire,
Speaker 1: year did not shut it, down did not get, Surgery
Speaker 1: he continued to. Play he looks much better, already AND
Speaker 1: i think that's only going to get. Better so, far
Speaker 1: he's very. Underrated Darren fox very focused on HIS mvp
Speaker 1: campaign that he's telling, everyone Fuck TEAM. USA i don't
Speaker 1: care about. Them Keegan, MURRAY i think is gonna take another.
Speaker 1: Step he's gonna be better following his rookie. Year you
Speaker 1: watched him in the playoffs last year and he got really.
Speaker 1: Good come Like game, Three game, four he made a
Speaker 1: RECORD nba number of threes for a first year. Player
Speaker 1: Malik monk turned into a player that we always hoped
Speaker 1: he would. Be six man off the. Bench Davion mitchell
Speaker 1: was Strapping steph in games one and. Two he's joined
Speaker 1: By Chris duarte And Jalen, noel which means more. Defense
Speaker 1: one of the weak up week spots in this team
Speaker 1: last year was a backup. Center so what do they.
Speaker 1: Do they Add JaVale, McGee three TIMES nba champion for
Speaker 1: multiple teams badly needed, experience and then they Add Neirleans,
Speaker 1: noel who also has a lot of. Talent if those guys,
Speaker 1: contribute woo. Wooh this is a fifty win. Team it
Speaker 1: was a fifty one, team. Folks maybe even, more maybe
Speaker 1: a fifty two fifty two win. TEAM i think this
Speaker 1: team could be number one in The. WEST i. DO
Speaker 1: i think this will be the top team in The Western.
Speaker 1: CONFERENCE a lot of people are saying The kings are
Speaker 1: gonna take step back this. Year not. Me i'm ten toes.
Speaker 1: DOWN i think it's the. Opposite this is a fifty
Speaker 1: two to four win team and once again one of
Speaker 1: the most fun teams to watch the. League that is
Speaker 1: it for our division. Preview preseason games have just, started
Speaker 1: so we'll get into a full overview of what's popping
Speaker 1: around the league in the next. Episode but the big
Speaker 1: news since the latest episode is That Joel embiid has
Speaker 1: declared that he will play For TEAM, usa WHICH i
Speaker 1: think is. Garbage not me as the patriot and me
Speaker 1: as AN nba, fan why because that's just too. Stacked
Speaker 1: put him On Team. France see what they figure, out
Speaker 1: Is Rudy gobert gonna get kicked off the? Team are
Speaker 1: they gonna try to play the two center? Thing what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen With victory? One But yama or Maybe, Cameroon
Speaker 1: i'd be fine with that. Too, france where he has.
Speaker 1: Citizenship there was lots of speculation when he played For.
Speaker 1: France there was a lot of. Friction, Ooh, rudy what
Speaker 1: do you? Think? Who oh Gil, bin Oh, Rudy oh
Speaker 1: bonjous aauvois and they're, like, no he's. Coming SO i
Speaker 1: think it's. Fascinating THE us needs a center. Badly but let's.
Speaker 1: See if If Joel embiid isn't healthy In, april do
Speaker 1: you think he's healthy In? August he's healthy In? AUGUST
Speaker 1: i don't. Know maybe if he gets bounced in Early
Speaker 1: april then he will be because he'll have four months to.
Speaker 1: Prepare he will be a big boost to THE us
Speaker 1: if they want to get the gold next, year Which
Speaker 1: i'm sure they. Do as for the rest of the.
Speaker 1: League it's, chrip, chup, quiet, quiet nothing new on the
Speaker 1: hard in. Front Somehow Peyton, pritchard who was asking for a,
Speaker 1: trade gets a fucking extension four, years thirty, million and
Speaker 1: they're like he's, like fuck, you fuck, you fuck. YOU
Speaker 1: i went, OUT i went, out all, out and they're, like,
Speaker 1: hey how about seven and a half millionaire and he's, like,
Speaker 1: okay sign on the dotted. Line Evan fournier is still
Speaker 1: pissed that The knicks haven't traded, him so they'll probably
Speaker 1: give him. Extension, right and Sniper Reggie bullock signed a
Speaker 1: one year deal In houston for what. Reason who, knows
Speaker 1: but with the preseason, underway shit's gonna change in a.
Speaker 1: Heartbeat up, next, finally special, edition we have a very
Speaker 1: informative interview With Bill, ryder host of THE cbs sports
Speaker 1: Show writer Than you and LONGTIME nba. Writer bill joined
Speaker 1: me and my co Host Ryan horvat And Nick ashew
Speaker 1: on our show BET mgm. Tonight he gave a nice
Speaker 1: ot review of what's popping around the. League so let's
Speaker 1: get into.
Speaker 2: It, Yeah, BILL i don't want to Make Bill ryder
Speaker 2: wait anymore to get SPORTS nba insider right Than YOU
Speaker 2: Cbs Sports. Radio, yeah if you're mad, that if you
Speaker 2: watch the show and you hated the way that it didn't,
Speaker 2: it feel free to jump that In. Bill but let's
Speaker 2: start with Also James, harden who is with The sixers in,
Speaker 2: camp And Joel embiid says he's not a. Distraction of
Speaker 2: course he's gonna say, that what do we make of this?
Speaker 2: Situation and where do you see this actually?
Speaker 3: Going the same THING i make OF i guess where
Speaker 3: a showtime. MISSED i wish it would he would just go.
Speaker 3: AWAY i was there a way just to cancel his
Speaker 3: appearance in THE. Nba, look so you're, right he is
Speaker 3: going to make life as miserable as he can for that.
Speaker 3: Organization he's already done.
Speaker 1: This we know.
Speaker 3: This he Called Daryl morele lar over the. Summer but
Speaker 3: just talking to folks in That philly, organization maybe their
Speaker 3: words are tougher than their actual fort. Two but they
Speaker 3: say they're gonna just make him. Play they're gonna wait
Speaker 3: for the price to go. Up they take some strength
Speaker 3: and some some some some you, know the a sense
Speaker 3: of optimism from what went down With, lillard even though
Speaker 3: that wasn't as ugly THOUGH i think That harden's going
Speaker 3: to be out of shape and, miserable AND i Think
Speaker 3: Darryl moore and The sixers are going to, say, politely
Speaker 3: to hell with, You we're not trade me until we
Speaker 3: get what we.
Speaker 1: Want. Wow, yeah it's going to be a, Saga, Bill,
Speaker 1: Absolutely i'm curious your thoughts on The. Bucks obviously they
Speaker 1: Add Damian. Loeward this is going to be a really
Speaker 1: explosive pick and roll type. Offense but what concerns me
Speaker 1: is that Now Chris middleton again not, healthy held out of,
Speaker 1: practice new Coach Adrienne griffin being very shady about What
Speaker 1: Chris middleton is even dealing. With how do you feel
Speaker 1: about this team if they don't have an entirely Healthy
Speaker 1: middleton for the entire, year or maybe if he never
Speaker 1: returns to what he was when he was in his.
Speaker 3: PRIME i, mean, look we are in an. Era we
Speaker 3: know that you can have a big two and get it.
Speaker 3: Done but they Need Chris middleton and one executive and
Speaker 3: a guy was a longtime former scouter work his way.
Speaker 3: Up made the point to me that, yes as you
Speaker 3: know that they are amazing, Offensively damian lower is a huge.
Speaker 3: Addition it takes a ton of pressure on the offensive,
Speaker 3: side off off Of janni and the pick and roll
Speaker 3: game could be. Amazing but that backcourt defensively now is
Speaker 3: not very. Good it's the point of this executive, made
Speaker 3: so you've got to make that up with more. Offense
Speaker 3: it's a similar model What boston's doing leaning. OFFENSIVELY i
Speaker 3: think you Need middleton to be in the mix at
Speaker 3: least in the, postseason given how good The celtics, are
Speaker 3: AND i think still how many land mines there are
Speaker 3: in The Eastern conference from other.
Speaker 4: Teams what are your thoughts On Drew holliday and his
Speaker 4: fit With. BOSTON i mean kind of taking over obviously
Speaker 4: The Marcus smart role where, he's you, know a non ball.
Speaker 4: Defender but what are your thoughts On boston coming into the,
Speaker 4: season BECAUSE i feel like in The east it's really
Speaker 4: Just boston And milwaukee right.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: YEAH i Like Drew. Holiday it's a great Qu Drew
Speaker 3: holliday in a. VACUUM i love. It and So Marcus
Speaker 3: smart basically, leader respected, guy but did not get along
Speaker 3: this is pretty clear from the press. Conferences but did
Speaker 3: not get along With joe. Mazoul it wasn't a good.
Speaker 3: Fit the perspective In. Boston is you get a bit
Speaker 3: of an upgrade From Andrew. Holliday, offensively he's still Great,
Speaker 3: defensively he's also well. Respected guys around the league love,
Speaker 3: him but he's known to be easy to work with for, coaches,
Speaker 3: right not gonna undermine yet there's a different kind of.
Speaker 3: Edgy it comes out on the, floor not in the locker.
Speaker 3: Room so For holiday as a, player and frankly is
Speaker 3: a guy who's gonna make life a little leader on
Speaker 3: a head coach who's under a lot of, PRESSURE i love.
Speaker 3: IT i think it's really interesting to see What porzingis
Speaker 3: can be and what he can, do and whether or
Speaker 3: not some of the players who were moved out who
Speaker 3: are defensive focus, guys whether that's gonna hurt The celtics
Speaker 3: as it relates to what they want to. Do but
Speaker 3: we Know missoula is much more offensively inclined than. He
Speaker 3: Mayo dooka he leans that. Way SO i love The holiday.
Speaker 3: MOVE i love The, celtics but it's gonna be really
Speaker 3: interesting how these pieces. Fit because this is a team
Speaker 3: that's made at game seven of The Eastern Conference finals
Speaker 3: the last two. Years they obviously made the finals a
Speaker 3: couple of years, ago and it's very they've retooled this
Speaker 3: basketball team pretty.
Speaker 2: Aggressively, Yeah, bill it's not like The celtics haven't been
Speaker 2: in this position. Before they're the co favorites of BET
Speaker 2: mgm to win the title four to, one along with The.
Speaker 2: Bucks and then you got The, nuggets the defending championship
Speaker 2: plus five point. Fifty where do you odds aside for
Speaker 2: This where do you stack The nuggets up right now
Speaker 2: with some of these other teams like The celtics And
Speaker 2: bucks and then The, suns all of who've had, a you,
Speaker 2: know pretty active. Offseasons So denver.
Speaker 3: Is a known, quantity and they've got one of the
Speaker 3: two or three best players in the. Game he's probably
Speaker 3: the best player in the, game and every year it.
Speaker 3: CHANGES i voted for yogus FOR. MVP i think they're
Speaker 3: the best team of those three that you noted because
Speaker 3: of what we. KNOW i think it's likely that In
Speaker 3: boston or In, milwaukee and maybe in, BOTH i don't,
Speaker 3: know it's gonna work really well and they're gonna actually
Speaker 3: be a little bit higher level that obviously have to
Speaker 3: face him in the finals for that to. Matter in the,
Speaker 3: PLAYOFFS i Love, denver AND i think there's a lot
Speaker 3: of question marks in The Western conference that makes their road.
Speaker 3: Easier i'm not as high On phoenix as other. PEOPLE
Speaker 3: i know they got some depth in that. Trade John
Speaker 3: moran's gonna miss a huge chunk of the. Season what
Speaker 3: Is memphis gonna be your third best player here IN
Speaker 3: la with The? Lakers Is Austin Reeves now that that's
Speaker 3: the end of the, World But i'm not sure that
Speaker 3: it's a. Guarantee And Anthony, Davis Anthony humpty Dumpty. DAVIS
Speaker 3: i know he wants to play eighty two. GAMES i love.
Speaker 3: It it's a guy played seventy two. Games lebron's, amazing
Speaker 3: but he's one hundred and five years. Old so you
Speaker 3: just sort of you go to The Western. Conference there
Speaker 3: are potential, challengers but at least on, paper nobody to
Speaker 3: me is as. Sure thing is The Denver.
Speaker 1: Nuggets i'm curious your thoughts on The Dallas mavericks BECAUSE
Speaker 1: i had a healthy debate with a friend of mine earlier,
Speaker 1: today because, he for whatever, reason thinks That Grant williams
Speaker 1: And Derek lively are going to move the needle in
Speaker 1: terms of just the overall, defense which was terrible last. Year,
Speaker 1: like what's your thoughts overall on what This Dallas mavericks
Speaker 1: team is going to be this?
Speaker 3: Year have you guys seen that gift where there's a
Speaker 3: dumpster on fire floating down a swollen. River, yeah that's
Speaker 3: my perspective on The Dallas mavericks and really my perspective
Speaker 3: on any team that Has kyrie. Ivery now there is, massive,
Speaker 3: massive massive concern and worry that they are not going
Speaker 3: to capitalize On Luca dodgers's. Window and While luca hasn't
Speaker 3: made any, suggessions he wants to Leave. Dallas we saw this.
Speaker 3: YEAR i think the moves that are going Around Eastern
Speaker 3: conference and what's happening right now is force And harden
Speaker 3: to Stand. Philly it's all about the fear That yannis
Speaker 3: will be the guy that won't, stay Or mv'll be
Speaker 3: the guy that gets them happy and doesn't. Stay and
Speaker 3: doctor GM's around THE. Nba there's a, hope right if
Speaker 3: you're not The DALLAS, gm then in a year or
Speaker 3: two just gonna be the guy who doesn't want to be.
Speaker 3: There and SO i Think dallas has massive pressure without
Speaker 3: a roster that can make good on. It i'm not
Speaker 3: a Big Kyrie irving, guy so Maybe i'm swinging and
Speaker 3: missing on a level of greatness he brings to the
Speaker 3: table That i'm somehow not. Seeing but the moves they've,
Speaker 3: made the team they, have the roster they, HAVE i
Speaker 3: don't think it's very. IMPRESSIVE i Know dodgas is. Amazing
Speaker 3: you guys Know dodgers is. Amazing the guy's an incredible,
Speaker 3: Player but he's not on a team THAT i think
Speaker 3: is gonna live up to anything remotely resembling even conference championship,
Speaker 3: appearances let alone the. FINALS i think they're in.
Speaker 4: Trouble bill with The heat missing out on The Damian
Speaker 4: lillard and missing out in the sweepstakes For Dame, lillard
Speaker 4: there's still minus one ninety to win The. SOUTHEAST i
Speaker 4: was just like trying to make the case for any
Speaker 4: of these other, teams you, know from a betting, standpoint
Speaker 4: and you have The hawks plus two. TWENTY i don't
Speaker 4: know IF i fully trust. THEM i like The, MAGIC
Speaker 4: i just don't know if they're still a year. Away
Speaker 4: they're eight to, one and then The hornets and The.
Speaker 4: Wizards could you make the case for any other team
Speaker 4: in The southeast other Than miami this.
Speaker 3: Season what's the number Of. ATLANTA i think plus two. Twenty,
Speaker 3: YEAH i Think atlanta is interesting if you're feeling like
Speaker 3: you have a litt, gamble, right because it's Probably. Miami
Speaker 3: we know how consistent they. Are it's not just they
Speaker 3: didn't Get lillard in terms of their championship, hop but
Speaker 3: it's how much better everybody that they compete, with Really
Speaker 3: boston And milwaukee got and they lost other pieces that are.
Speaker 3: Important but that is a very weak group of. Teams that,
Speaker 3: said Gwinn snyder is extremely well. Respected it sounds Like TREY.
Speaker 3: J young wants to do the things he needs to
Speaker 3: do For quinn in that. ORGANIZATION i. WASN'T i think
Speaker 3: that place is a mess in terms of their political
Speaker 3: dynamics at their front. Office But quinn's a really good.
Speaker 3: Coach he's now gonna have obviously an entire training camp
Speaker 3: team in late last, year a very weird. Situation so
Speaker 3: there's gonna be a, surprise and maybe it's the heat
Speaker 3: trail off a little, bit or there's injuries Or Emo
Speaker 3: jimmy so emotionally can't get out there that haircut and
Speaker 3: play for. Me atlanta would be the other.
Speaker 2: Team bill if people are looking at maybe the possibility
Speaker 2: of finding an edge in like the the win totals.
Speaker 2: Market right, now The Toronto raptors are a team that's
Speaker 2: been thrown around for it feels like the last couple
Speaker 2: of years is maybe potential sellers and then what maybe
Speaker 2: they're maybe some extensions for some, guys or maybe they're gonna.
Speaker 2: Trade nobody seems to know what they're gonna. Do do
Speaker 2: you think that this is a team that, finally let's
Speaker 2: say even just come trade, deadline they finally start selling
Speaker 2: that team, off or are they still committed to actually
Speaker 2: winning with essentially the roster that they.
Speaker 3: Have, YEAH i think it's a really GOOD i think
Speaker 3: it's really a good, question a really good. POINT i
Speaker 3: think that it depends how things, go and they believe
Speaker 3: that their roster is good enough to at least compete
Speaker 3: in the second tier in The. East right somewhere to
Speaker 3: four to six tos happened to it to try and
Speaker 3: avoid that play. In i'm not sure how realistic that,
Speaker 3: is AND i do think that if the wheels come,
Speaker 3: off if things go, badly if they're not in the,
Speaker 3: mix they very well could be sellers and you can
Speaker 3: move on for most of those guys and see that
Speaker 3: team basically go into bring an, assets do What portland's
Speaker 3: doing do to a degree with The thunder did lose
Speaker 3: a bunch of games focus on draft. Picks so depending
Speaker 3: where the total is for what's their win toal right,
Speaker 3: now like forty, TWO i don't even.
Speaker 2: KNOW i think it's lower than that ISN'T i? Do
Speaker 2: you guys know it's NOT betvgm doesnt hapen in front
Speaker 2: of us right, Now BUT i want to say it's
Speaker 2: actually LIKE i think it's under.
Speaker 3: That, YEAH i, MEAN i guess it depends what it.
Speaker 3: Is BUT i would either for me LIKE i used
Speaker 3: to be wintles all the, Time, YEAH i would either
Speaker 3: pass on it or go under BECAUSE i do think
Speaker 3: they're not gonna be thirty six and a.
Speaker 2: Half thirty six and a, HALF.
Speaker 3: I, Mean vegas thinks they're going to sell them right
Speaker 3: like that seems really low to me for that. Roster i'm.
Speaker 1: CURIOUS i wanted to follow up with you on The
Speaker 1: raptors because it just feels like they're a. Mess. Bill
Speaker 1: i'm not. Sure massi was known as one of the
Speaker 1: better gms in the, league and now it feels like
Speaker 1: his reputation is in, shambles, uh and they're letting players
Speaker 1: walk for almost. Nothing he's bringing up petty things like
Speaker 1: the lawsuit instead of addressing you, know what's going on With,
Speaker 1: pascal and he's calling his whole team selfish and that
Speaker 1: they're not making the right. Decisions is is it just?
Speaker 1: Me or is that organization kind of toxic right?
Speaker 3: Now, yeah they're not in a good. Place and, LOOK
Speaker 3: i Think massi's really people that are smarter THAN i
Speaker 3: am about THE nba are impressed by the. Guy but
Speaker 3: Pat riley talked about the more you win, something you
Speaker 3: start to really believe in. Yourself you start to buy the.
Speaker 3: Headlines they won AN nba. Championship it's been a minute.
Speaker 3: Now it was very. Impressive but obviously they brought In Kawhi.
Speaker 3: Leonard it was a crazy. Spark there were multiple injuries
Speaker 3: that were significant in that series against The warriors that
Speaker 3: got in there not taking anything. Away they had a
Speaker 3: crazy bounce Against, philly AND i think that there's just
Speaker 3: a chance That massai doesn't understand that they got lucky
Speaker 3: and that there were some things that need to be,
Speaker 3: retooled especially When kawhi moved on to answer your. Question
Speaker 3: yet they're absolutely. Toxic it is a miserable. Place and
Speaker 3: this is part of the debate about where you bet
Speaker 3: on their win. Total he thinks they're good enough on
Speaker 3: paper and that these guys aren't living up to. Expectations
Speaker 3: and in that locker room they think that he's a
Speaker 3: delusional strong but he is overestimating the roster that he's put.
Speaker 1: Together Bobby webster Said bill that they offered the most
Speaker 1: that they've ever offered for a, player For Damian. Lillard
Speaker 1: do you know what that deal?
Speaker 3: WAS i don't know the littard. THING i, MEAN i,
Speaker 3: KNOW i, don't AND i have trouble believing. THAT i
Speaker 3: can tell you this from The portland. Side it wasn't
Speaker 3: personal with The Miami. Heat it really wasn't about wanting
Speaker 3: to screw over Pat. Riley they wanted the most they could,
Speaker 3: get and they thought it Was. Milwaukee some of that
Speaker 3: calculation is that they think Those milwaukee gets one pick
Speaker 3: and it's two pick, swaps twenty eight thirty pick, swaps
Speaker 3: twenty nine first round. Pick they don't Think annas is
Speaker 3: gonna be there regardless of what happens with lower than
Speaker 3: the next year or, two and that The bucks are
Speaker 3: going to be an utter and total, disaster and that
Speaker 3: those picks are very potentially extremely, valuable and whatever happens In,
Speaker 3: toronto it's just a more desirable market than it used
Speaker 3: to be because there's a lot of guys who are
Speaker 3: international players if we know in THE nba who will play.
Speaker 3: There SO i don't. KNOW i don't know What toronto,
Speaker 3: offered BUT i do know That portland thinks that what
Speaker 3: they got From milwaukee and what they're still getting because
Speaker 3: they're gonna move on To Malcolm brogy and obviously they
Speaker 3: traded your, holiday they think that return is by far
Speaker 3: the best that was. Offered what do you.
Speaker 4: Think ends up happening this year with the uh not
Speaker 4: even so much this?
Speaker 2: Year like the future of The.
Speaker 4: KINGS i really like The kings That i'm looking at The.
Speaker 4: Pacific they're eight to, one and it's just like with
Speaker 4: The suns and The.
Speaker 2: Lakers they're. OLD i feel like their goal.
Speaker 4: Is obviously to win the, championship and THEN i still
Speaker 4: think they're gonna use load. Management you can throw The
Speaker 4: warriors in there, too and The. Clippers what do you
Speaker 4: think about The kings eight to one to win The
Speaker 4: PACIFIC i think they're going to be a tough regular season.
Speaker 3: TEAM i love the. Kids FUNNY i did WHEN i
Speaker 3: was talking to you guys about sort of where Is denver?
Speaker 3: RANK i was trying to, like who AM i? Trying
Speaker 3: who AM i Forgetting i'm muscle memory to never take
Speaker 3: The Sacramento kings. Seriously it's like a part of my BASKETBALL.
Speaker 3: Dna but that's. CHANGED i, mean that's a really tough.
Speaker 3: Team it's a really good. Team they're really, young they're well.
Speaker 3: Coached they finally we think of a front office for
Speaker 3: the first time in a generation that's well run and you're.
Speaker 3: ON i think their, window or they think their window
Speaker 3: for really competing is probably not this, season but the season.
Speaker 3: After but we've seen teams and The warriors are one
Speaker 3: of those teams make really big leaps that that are
Speaker 3: earlier than people. Expected so, YES i think that's entirely.
Speaker 3: POSSIBLE i have a soft spot in my heart For Golden,
Speaker 3: state largely BECAUSE i JUST i Love Steph, curry class,
Speaker 3: act amazing. Player but they're. OLD i don't know. THAT
Speaker 3: i Believe Chris paul is going to, work and forget
Speaker 3: whether he, STARTS i don't know if he, finishes which
Speaker 3: is what really. Matters, yeah we Know Bob myers is.
Speaker 3: Gone Steve kerr has become you talk to beat writers
Speaker 3: and folks there a little. More he's a nice, guy
Speaker 3: but a little more, frustrated maybe a little more burned
Speaker 3: out in a long term. SENSE i do think there's some,
Speaker 3: vulnerabilities AND i think The kings of the kind of
Speaker 3: team if things, click because they have so many young,
Speaker 3: guys and young guys tend to make big leaps in
Speaker 3: years two and three and sometimes. Four The kings are
Speaker 3: police potential to be one of those teams that make
Speaker 3: a pretty big leap this.
Speaker 2: Year, yeah it's probably a culture shock For Steve kark
Speaker 2: because he's used to just dominating THE nba and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden now he's looking around, going damn, it
Speaker 2: we're not who we used to be. Anymore bill RYDERS Cbs,
Speaker 2: sports always good to talk to, you, Man thanks for coming.
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