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Speaker 1: The Volume.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Jenkison Jones on The Volume podcast network. It

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Speaker 2: is Tuesday, January fourteenth. We're talking about the Vikings getting

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Speaker 2: embarrassed on national television. We're talking about the rumors about

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Speaker 2: Dion going to the Cowboys were We're gonna do a

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Speaker 2: Dude's Naming guys segment, which I'm very excited for. We've

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Speaker 2: got the Dragon iPhones chronicles. Uh, We're gonna maybe discuss

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Speaker 2: bringing back gossiping is a mission of John's this year.

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Speaker 2: And then I and then if we have time. I've

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Speaker 2: been bumming this off. I think today is a day

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Speaker 2: to do it. I'm gonna talk about how I stopped

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Speaker 2: being such a fat ass. I think we could if

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Speaker 2: we can get out of that. I know people have

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Speaker 2: been hitting John up about I wanted to.

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Speaker 3: Hear about that. So that's what everyone inspired by, Mike.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's whatever one tunes into the podcast for

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Speaker 2: is weight loss tips.

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Speaker 3: Hey, nigga, we hit our forties. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Hey, and if you're your thirty two, because it can

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Speaker 4: get weird. It can get weird of your thirty two,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Come on as always Jenkis Jones, Hosted by the Jefter

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Speaker 3: Jenkins a K.

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Speaker 2: John was that bubblas dragonfly Jones A k A Tyler, Hey, everybody.

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Speaker 5: I'm GUARDI B A k A Mike moother fucking Mike,

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Speaker 5: mother fucking never fucking fucking Mike.

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Speaker 3: Tell Tyler. I love what Tyler picks up divines. We

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Speaker 3: just could go crazy. That's life. Oh Lie Young say five.

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Speaker 2: Love Love produces always by the equally lovely, equally talented

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Speaker 2: tandem of Josh Rodriguez and Jackson Steph oh I d.

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Speaker 3: How you doing? But the pot is by coastal again.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we're sixty forty west coast, East coast

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Speaker 2: right now because Josh is out, Josh is on the

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Speaker 2: East coast, So you know, it's all kinds of times

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Speaker 2: for Jenkins and Jones right now.

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Speaker 3: You know, is it the morning? Is it the afternoon?

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Speaker 3: Say stick, Who's let's talk about the football game? Last night?

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Speaker 2: I got a chance to watch that thing, you know,

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Speaker 2: the Vikings I was tweeting it out. Is the Minnesota

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Speaker 2: the only sports curse that feels like it might be

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Speaker 2: an actual curse, like an actual He's placed by someone

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Speaker 2: who knows how to play a hex. I don't know

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Speaker 2: of any other sports fan base that continuously gets their

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Speaker 2: heart ripped out as shit on the way that Minnesota

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Speaker 2: sports fans do.

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Speaker 3: Bro. It is, it is rough, it is. It is

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Speaker 3: like you said, it is.

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Speaker 1: A long standing tradition, the Minnesota sports curse. And the

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Speaker 1: unique thing about the Minnesota sports curse is they have

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Speaker 1: really good teams that just fall flat in the pole.

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Speaker 3: That's their thing.

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Speaker 1: It's not like they're the Browns or Cleveland Sports where

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Speaker 1: they just suck forever, right like Bro, To this day,

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Speaker 1: the fifteen and one ninety eight Vikings are the second

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Speaker 1: best team that I never saw when the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: behind the undefeated Pats. You know in seven that that

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Speaker 1: squad with with with with Randy Moss and.

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Speaker 3: Dante Cole Copper.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not yet they had, they had, they had Cunningham

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Speaker 1: ninety eight.

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Speaker 3: But are you right, my bad? Yeah, but they lost that.

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Speaker 1: They went fifteen and one lost a playoff game on

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Speaker 1: a fucking field goal to the Falcons of all teams.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, they lost They lost it on his

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Speaker 2: first miss of this season. He had not missed one

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Speaker 2: field goal the whole season until the one to end

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Speaker 2: the season.

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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, was this the dirty bird Falcons? Though? That

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Speaker 3: was kind of tough. Yeah, that was kind of tough though. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, we see how how this Minnesota

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Speaker 1: timberwol squad is just falling apart.

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Speaker 3: Like, Bro, I'm not you.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think they make the playoffs after going

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Speaker 1: to the Western Conference Finals last season.

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Speaker 3: They're in hell right now.

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Speaker 1: It's just they and and and then we see this squad, Bro,

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Speaker 1: Like I told you, I saw the old Sam Donald

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Speaker 1: come back. You know, we week eighteen, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm selling all my Viking stock, bro. And we saw

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Speaker 1: they are calling that man same Donald on the internet.

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Speaker 3: They're putting it.

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Speaker 1: Behind Sam and calling that man same Donald on the

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Speaker 1: internet because he reverted back to the guy who we

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Speaker 1: unfortunately has been for most of his career except for

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Speaker 1: this season. But but yeah, Bro, it's it's you know,

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Speaker 1: like I said, dog, I feel like we do this

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Speaker 1: every season with the Rams. It's like we don't talk

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Speaker 1: about them all season. Then postseason they're gonna get a

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Speaker 1: win or two and we're like, oh, we need to

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Speaker 1: talk about the Rams more.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 1: And I think the Rams could compete the Philly too, Like,

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Speaker 1: I think they can go to the to the NFC

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Speaker 1: championship man, I wouldn't be surprised.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's the McVeigh Stafford. I think that.

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Speaker 3: I think I just saw Staffs.

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Speaker 2: Stafford is eighteen and three in December and January since

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Speaker 2: he got the Rams, Like wow, you know, and he's

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Speaker 2: kind of similar to the Rams story every year, Like

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Speaker 2: you said, where just because of the way the career started,

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Speaker 2: a certain narrative set in and it's like, if you

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Speaker 2: actually step back and evaluate his career in his totality,

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Speaker 2: he's looking like a.

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Speaker 3: Hall of Famer, one of the best of his generation,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's just he just was

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Speaker 3: in Detroit for a while to start it.

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Speaker 2: Did you see the levitar meme he did with the

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Speaker 2: you know, Fred from Scooby Douce snatching the mask off

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Speaker 2: and it was Sam Donald and he snatched the mask

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Speaker 2: off and it was still Sam Donald. Damn bro one

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Speaker 2: of our one of our Jenis and Jones fans. Jeremy

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Speaker 2: Scooter Magoo eighty eight tweeted at me. He said, my

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Speaker 2: formative sports memory is the ninety eight Vikings, and he's

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Speaker 2: a Vikings fan. My formative sports memory is the ninety

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Speaker 2: eight Vikings and a kicker had been perfect in the

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Speaker 2: regular season, missing a game to send us to the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. I've been chewing glass since nineteen eighty eight,

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Speaker 2: and my jaw is tired.

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Speaker 3: He said.

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Speaker 2: He got in trouble for yelling at his mom because

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Speaker 2: he was so mad about that game.

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Speaker 3: I said, I need this story.

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Speaker 2: He said, ten year old me bet my mom that

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Speaker 2: the Vikings would win because his mom knew better.

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Speaker 1: Because his mom might be a lifelong Minnesota It's like, no, honey,

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Speaker 1: this is not what we do.

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Speaker 3: Good things do not happen to us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, upon losing, my mom rubbed it in

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Speaker 2: for a long time after the game. I got pissed

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Speaker 2: and told her to shut up, and she swiftly and

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Speaker 2: painfully reminded me that we were not and never would

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Speaker 2: be equals in that way.

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Speaker 3: Hey brother, good old mom.

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Speaker 4: Hey, yeah, for so shut up is crazy.

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Speaker 3: I already know the question asked. I'm saying it was.

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Speaker 3: I was wondering. But that's how upsetting was mom. That's

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Speaker 3: how upset it was. To clarity that that you know that.

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Speaker 1: I'm very anti speaking your kids, but I think Mama

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Speaker 1: should let off on your shut up.

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Speaker 3: You might deserve I'm not.

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Speaker 4: Saying little, I'm gonna keep it a bean. Somebody could

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Speaker 4: talk to me anyway, she won't. I ain't tripped.

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Speaker 3: You feel me like she get to talk in a

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Speaker 3: rather particular way.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, nigga, all right now, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: Like we need to really know this. Sind you feel

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Speaker 4: like talk to mom any type? Wo I feel like

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Speaker 4: it you could talk to you talk to Mama particular

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Speaker 4: way like you can.

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Speaker 3: You might.

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Speaker 4: You might take that out into the world. You know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying. You feel me like?

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Speaker 2: It gets me off the couch. My kids know that.

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Speaker 2: Like if they say you don't, it doesn't. It could

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Speaker 2: be oblique. It could just be like, yeah, I know

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Speaker 2: the reason your mom is telling you to do this

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Speaker 2: is at this time, and so she's not rushing to

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Speaker 2: take your stupid fucking ass to practice.

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Speaker 4: Like right, I'm gonna hold me like you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean. I'mo, you can talk to me like you

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Speaker 4: feel me. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I ain't

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Speaker 4: gonna yell back none of that. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: Like you know mom, is that that's a particular position, nigga,

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Speaker 4: Like we gotta respect that position.

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Speaker 3: You feel me. So my kids can't talk to me

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Speaker 3: any type of way. But I don't.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't yell back, you know what I mean boundary

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Speaker 2: of like, hey, that's not how You're not gonna talk

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Speaker 2: to me like that, like whatever.

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Speaker 3: But if you but if you say some ship.

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Speaker 2: To your mom, I'm yelling at you immediately like that

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Speaker 2: car's going zero.

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Speaker 3: To sixty immediately. I know I did not just hear

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Speaker 3: I know this nigga hear something like that. I know

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Speaker 3: I didn't just hear it. Just the most sentence humanly utterable.

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Speaker 6: You imagine saying that in a condexed outside of being

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Speaker 6: a dad.

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Speaker 3: I know, I just didn't like that. Oh yeah, I'll

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Speaker 3: be saying that. I know this nigga. Nigga, that's a

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Speaker 3: that's a comment.

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Speaker 4: Like a motherfucker if you motherfucker's played me another jump

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Speaker 4: in with some I know this nigga ain't talking.

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Speaker 3: You don't even look at him. You don't even look

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Speaker 3: at the motherfucker. I know this nigga ain't talk, right, dude,

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Speaker 3: that was the time to turn around and run away. Brother.

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Speaker 3: For sure, you ever got hit with I know, oh

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Speaker 6: People are also putting it on Twitter that it's it's

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Speaker 6: Right, the most wide receiver book possible, like how to

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Speaker 2: I publicly support AJ Brown And I'll tell you, if

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Speaker 3: Brown you go. You're gonna come around to the A J.

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Speaker 3: Brown side of this, bro. And if you've ever been

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 2: You just did your job. Now is these other dudes

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Speaker 3: I fuck with it.

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Speaker 4: He looks satisfying that photo too, Bro, Like he had

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Speaker 4: just hit like read some to hit his soul, like Yeah,

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like next possession, I'm using

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Speaker 2: We uh, we got the schedule is out for this weekend,

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Speaker 3: Did you see the ship? They tweeted out? Now it

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Speaker 2: They tweeted out, clocket, it's Texas like it's Texans o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Baby, that is so loud. They could never get out

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Speaker 1: You're all a going up against the fucking sixteen and

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Speaker 3: And we all know that that my homes is on

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Speaker 3: we having some real conversations and y'all get three thirty

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Speaker 2: Say hey, if I tell you I'm pulling up at

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Speaker 3: On Saturday, Texas. Oh oh jesus. All right. We had

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Speaker 2: The Cowboys got rid of Mike McCarthy and uh, and

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Speaker 3: Do you buy that? Tyler?

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Speaker 1: Well, he shot it down, but I don't know how much.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how much, guys. And that's

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Speaker 1: just that's not anything particular leon. That's coaches period. They

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Speaker 1: no coach would be at a job and be like, hey,

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Speaker 1: They're all going to say, you know, it's it's it's

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Speaker 3: Every coach is going to say that shit, and Dion

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Speaker 2: I think it's I think especially in the Portal era,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, you know, I don't know. I would

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Speaker 1: He's he's kind of hinted around that recruiting is not

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Speaker 1: he's got some rapport with Jerry. I think he's someone

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: I honestly would not be surprised if that's a job

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Speaker 3: Yes, of course.

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Speaker 1: Listen, NFL is a whole different ball game. I want

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Speaker 1: And I'm not sure that I'm all the way convinced

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Speaker 3: Yeah. All right.

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Speaker 2: One of my favorite things that happens on Twitter is

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was showing the numbers compared to Wemby and

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Speaker 3: So but yeah, yeah, yeah, David Robinson was one of

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Speaker 3: You know, I went on a little Virginia tangent, you know,

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Speaker 1: Youss Virginia right there. As a military kid, you know,

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Speaker 4: It's the post game presser because even on this in

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Speaker 3: I remember we would be like, you know, we were marketing.

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Speaker 4: Like that's what we would say in high school watching

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Speaker 4: He could do nothing with that nigga, you know what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Bro, Yeah, those ninety five Rockets all time playoff front.

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Speaker 4: But like, yeah, man, that was that was special to watch,

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Speaker 4: specially you know what I mean for Shure, who was

441
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Speaker 4: a point.

442
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 3: Guard two what was his name, big ad Nigga looked

443
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 3: like alien sad Yeah, Sadasel he was, and he was.

444
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Speaker 3: Was he a rookie day? Was he the rookie the

445
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 3: first year or like second years? He was young assel?

446
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,120
Speaker 3: Yeah he was. He was in his second year because

447
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 3: he wanted a ninety four. Yeah yeah.

448
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,679
Speaker 1: So but but Bro, but and and that Orlando squad,

449
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 1: they were the squad that beat MJ's bulls.

450
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Speaker 3: Yeah it was, it was. It wasn't it was forty five?

451
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 3: No that listen, bro, That is that is Nick Anderson

452
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 3: poked from the back. Shit. You know what I'm saying.

453
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 1: Listen, listen, bro, I think that is something that is

454
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 1: MJ mythology. Because I'm going to run up some numbers

455
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 1: here for you for the numbers that he put up

456
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 1: that series.

457
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 3: Okay, Bro, he.

458
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,959
Speaker 1: Put up thirty one points per game on forty eight

459
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Speaker 1: percent shooting, with a thirty eight point game, a forty

460
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 1: point game, and a thirty nine point game. MJ was back.

461
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 1: Orlando was just better, doog. I remember that serious. He

462
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Speaker 1: wore the pennies too, Bro, I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

463
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 1: that's the only time I've ever seen MJ wear another

464
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Speaker 1: player's signatures.

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Speaker 4: Hey, but that's that's how cold Penny was, man, That's

466
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Speaker 4: how cold Pity was for show.

467
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Speaker 1: Yeah, people were calling people calling Penny and Shock the

468
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,160
Speaker 1: new Magic and Kareem, and nobody thought it was blasting.

469
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,719
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, That's how good Penny was. Bro.

470
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 4: Penny was doing moves on the court that I had

471
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Speaker 4: not seen anybody do from that position. He was big

472
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Speaker 4: ass fucking point guard. And the way he passed the

473
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Speaker 4: ball in traffic it was like nigga.

474
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Speaker 3: I mean, like the way you people see people finishing

475
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 3: at the bucket and are amazed by that.

476
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,360
Speaker 4: That's how it was amazed by how he passed in traffic,

477
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 4: like finding open man.

478
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Speaker 3: It's like the nigga had four sets of eyes. It

479
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 3: was insane, dude, Like there.

480
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 4: Was some hell of people whose favorite player to watch

481
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 4: was Penny, you know what I mean.

482
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Speaker 3: Like he was different, He was different, and his shoes

483
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 3: was crazy.

484
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 4: He like, like, up up until the Kobe's he had

485
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 4: the second best I think, you know, between him and Chuck,

486
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 4: him and him, he had to like run of shoes,

487
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, signature shoes.

488
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 3: Penny was probably right behind Jordan. He was cold.

489
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Speaker 1: But like I said, I do think that that that's

490
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Speaker 1: saying that MJ was an MJ. I think that's MJ Midfield.

491
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Speaker 1: And I also think that maybe just felt like he wasn't.

492
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Speaker 1: I didn't look at the numbers. I just watching him.

493
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Speaker 1: I'm like, this don't feel like the MJ, you know

494
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Speaker 1: what I mean. And I also think that that series

495
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: was why they went and got Dennis Rodmen, like, because

496
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: because the thing is they missed horse Yeah, they missed

497
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 1: horse Grant's rebounding and interior defense. You remember after Orlando bounced,

498
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: they lifted Horse grand up like he was the fucking

499
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 1: franchise player. You remember that shit. They missed hors Grant's

500
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,239
Speaker 1: rebounding an interior difference. Listen stat here. After they got

501
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: Robin and they rematched with the Magic in the ninety

502
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 1: six postseason, the Bulls outrebounded Orlando one hundred and eighty

503
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: two to one hundred and thirty two in four games.

504
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: Rodman had twenty six offensive rebounds by himself that series.

505
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 4: Orlando as a team had thirty nine. Bro, I remember

506
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 4: specifically how he guarded Shaq. You couldn't guard a person

507
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 4: like that anymore. The niggas was seven to twenty. Given Shaq, Hell,

508
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 4: he would lean on him and lock his back leg

509
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 4: he would lock his back legs straight up, motherfucker out

510
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 4: and lean on him. And I mean, like Shack, couldn't it, Bro,

511
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 4: Like Dennis Robin's athleticism was otherworldly, the strength.

512
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 3: From that wiry body, It did make any sense.

513
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 4: And he's probably the best stressed man that ever came

514
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Speaker 4: in the NBA. Crazy as crazy as he was. But yeah, yeah,

515
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 4: I remember reading an article. I forget what it was,

516
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 4: maybe a Sports Illustrated or Slam or something, but it's

517
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 4: a it's a this when he was with the Spurs.

518
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 4: It shows him running up the hill or whatever, and

519
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 4: he's he judged his workouts by paint.

520
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 3: He was searching for pain in the workout, like if

521
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: it had to feel.

522
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 4: A particular way, because that's how he approached the game,

523
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 4: that's how he chose to play basketball, was you know,

524
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 4: as a rebounder, where him getting seventeen rebounds in a

525
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 4: game was a normal Dennis Rodman game. You gotta sign

526
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Speaker 4: up for pain, you know what I'm saying, And like, yeah,

527
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 4: he was Dennis Rodman was different.

528
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Speaker 3: Different in every possible every possible way, every possible way.

529
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Speaker 4: I look back at how he dressed on I'm so crazier,

530
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Speaker 4: Like it's like the dude I remember thinking he was

531
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Speaker 4: just like I never looked at him and thought he

532
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 4: was a well addressed person because it was just so

533
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 4: weird at the time period. To me, he was forty

534
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 4: years ahead of his time. Like, yeah, I'm looking at dinner.

535
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 4: I was going through pintress, that's my favorite social media platform.

536
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 4: I'm going through Pinterest looking at Dennis Robin fits. I'm

537
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 4: like this ship was like I would wear like ninety

538
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 4: percent of what he had on everything but the wedding dress,

539
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

540
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Speaker 2: But the wedding dress was such a moment in time

541
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 2: because it was the first time our our generation's masculine

542
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 2: brain short circuited.

543
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 3: Like people like everyone like I want to say a

544
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 3: word about this dude, but I know he's way tougher

545
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 3: and more of a man than like, you know.

546
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 4: What I mean, hey man in physical tool because also

547
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 4: anatomically how.

548
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 3: This nigga was built. There was there was rumors about

549
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 3: that ship too, you feel me? Him? No, him and

550
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 3: Jordan apparently were cracking the same motherfucker.

551
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 4: And Jordan was jealous because because the person talked about

552
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 4: Dennis Rodman like that motherfucker came was carved by motherfucker

553
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 4: Mike lanjol whatever.

554
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 3: The you know what I'm saying.

555
00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got and and and the indust trucks that

556
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: it broke. There was never an NBA team with better

557
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: sneakers than the ninety six Bulls in the playoffs, when

558
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: we got the Brad Jordan Elevens, we got the up

559
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: tempos on Pippin, and we got the in destrucks on

560
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: Robin Dough.

561
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Speaker 3: Come on, man, you they're Pippens.

562
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 4: To me, I thought they were pips, and the Blue

563
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 4: and White ones always called them Juwan Howells, you know

564
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like its always st juwan.

565
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 3: Was playing in the motherfuckers, do you know what I mean?

566
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 3: Like the Navy and White was always look at the

567
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 3: Timbs was pippers of me. But anyway, he popped the rock. Yeah.

568
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, some Dennis Robin stats for you. He had a

569
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: nine year stretch where he won five rings, won Defensive

570
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: Player of the Year twice back to back, and led

571
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: the league in it rebounds for seven straight seasons with

572
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: eighteen point seven, eighteen point three, seventeen point three, sixteen

573
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: point eight, fourteen point nine, sixteen point one and fifteen

574
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: and bro. And also one thing about Robin is I

575
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: don't know if there's ever been like a better resume

576
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: of dudes who they've gone through to get their rings.

577
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: He went through through Bird and McHale, m J and

578
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: Pitt Magic and Kareem Clydes Blazers, Ewing S, Knicks, Reggie's Pacers,

579
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: Shack and Penny kimp and and Peyton has stocked him alone.

580
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 3: Robin was different, dog.

581
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 4: Different, bro different, different and didn't oh, what's his name,

582
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 4: Phil Jackson say somebody that leticism like he's the most

583
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 4: yet player, most athletic player he ever coached. And I

584
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 4: think it's like because he had that motor. He was

585
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 4: never tired the way he played the game. As hard

586
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 4: as he played it, he still was never tired. Just

587
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 4: just different, different, different, different different. Jackson gotten guard to guard,

588
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 4: could get out and guard to guard, but then also

589
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 4: stand up shot you know what I mean, and diving

590
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 4: on for every fucking loose ball.

591
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 3: Just Bro, I would love for Robin on the Lakers

592
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 3: right now, Nigga. You know what I'm saying. I give

593
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 3: my peaky up for that. Nigga, put a Robin beside Broun.

594
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 3: I give my peaky up, not even for a full.

595
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 2: Year, for January, January, ready to June.

596
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 3: This is forty old bron Man. We need some you

597
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 3: know what I mean. We don't got many anymore. You

598
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 3: don't got as many takes in front of them, you

599
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

600
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: So, hey, Gee, just told Gojo he likes their chances.

601
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 2: But also, and this is what's so funny to me

602
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: about Brontive. He did, but did you hear what he said?

603
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 2: He said, We're not the team will be in February

604
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: and March. It's just like the way he openly talks

605
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: about dudes on.

606
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 3: His So funny, Bro, everybody can't go oh Man to April.

607
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: Everybody can't go to three months from now. Sorry, all right,

608
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: we have two very accomplished sports producers.

609
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Speaker 3: Here. Was that a good dude's Naming guys segment? That

610
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 3: was a great That was a great I felt like

611
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 3: that was an all time dudes's naming guys. I was

612
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: pretty good. You guys named a lot of guys. Right there.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna hear a funny the same Castell, same Castell

614
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 6: story about a chem olage one that he told.

615
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Speaker 3: I'm a big I love watching with the with the

616
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: Clippers too, he was, I mean they were trash. He's

617
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Speaker 3: been right a special.

618
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Speaker 6: We had Sam on Draymond Green Show last summer at

619
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Speaker 6: UH Summer League and he told the story about Hakeem

620
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 6: where Sam's rookie year. He came in and they went

621
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Speaker 6: something I don't remember the exact number, something like oh

622
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Speaker 6: and eleven in the preseason, and Hakeem was like stinking

623
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Speaker 6: it up and he was like Sam was like, this

624
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 6: is the guy you guys have been talking about, Like

625
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 6: I don't get it. And then he like went to

626
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 6: Kimen was like Hakeem, like what's the deal. And Kem

627
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 6: was like Sam, like he used the accent like Sam.

628
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Speaker 4: Sam.

629
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Speaker 3: He was like, he's like the let these.

630
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Speaker 6: Numbers don't count yet, These numbers don't count yet, Like

631
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Speaker 6: just relax these none of this matters right now. And

632
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Speaker 6: then they started the regular season started and they won

633
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Speaker 6: like twenty games in a row or something, and it

634
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Speaker 6: came averaged like thirty fourteen to I start the year.

635
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Speaker 6: And he was like, when the lights are on, like

636
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 6: you'll know it's okay, Sam, Like you were a rookie, Like.

637
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Speaker 3: Relax, that's so funny. I love Sam having it.

638
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 4: And it's a surprise because Sam carried I mean, he

639
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 4: had the nuts, big nuts celebration, you know what I'm saying.

640
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 4: So of course as a rookie, he's going up to

641
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 4: a game like, Yo, what the fuck is going on?

642
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 3: Are you trash? What? I don't see it? You know

643
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 3: what I mean? I know they say you're good, Yeah,

644
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 3: mister dream But yeah, all right?

645
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: We as we mentioned on the Sunday Show or if

646
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Speaker 2: you didn't hear it, our lifelong iPhone would you say

647
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Speaker 2: iPhone slash Apple hater or.

648
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 3: Just not participator? Not a hater? Okay? Never gave.

649
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Speaker 2: Lifelong Android user Tyler aka Dragonfly Jones is now an

650
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Speaker 2: iPhone guy. The Genus and Jones group chat is blue

651
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Speaker 2: bubbles for the first time, So we need the Dragon

652
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Speaker 2: iPhones chronicles.

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Speaker 3: How is the adjustment been? Brother? We're here, man, Welcome

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Speaker 3: to twenty eleven.

655
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Speaker 1: Man. I've been enjoying it. It's a cool, little slick interfaces,

656
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: very user friendly, you know.

657
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,239
Speaker 3: I like it. Like I said, I was never an

658
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 3: Apple hater like bro. Like I've told you all so

659
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 3: many times.

660
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: One of my most prized possessions is my iPod fucking

661
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty gig Bykee bro Like, I love

662
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: that thing with everything in me. It's it's it's like

663
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: an archive to me now because there's music on there

664
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: that's not on streaming and shit that I've got on there.

665
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: I got a fucking MacBook Air that I work with,

666
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: you know, to podcast shit. I've never been an Apple hater.

667
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: I just don't give a fuck about phones like that,

668
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So yeah, it's it's it's cool.

669
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: It's I will say this.

670
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 3: You know.

671
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,239
Speaker 1: The thing about Apple, and what Apple's appeal always has

672
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: been is that they sell community.

673
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 3: They sell belonging right like they want you to.

674
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: They want people who are not an Apple to get

675
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: ostracized into joining the Apple family, right, and that didn't

676
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: work for me.

677
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 3: That would have never worked for me. Yeah, that would

678
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 3: have never worked for me.

679
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: Like I told you, the main reason I'm getting it

680
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: because I gotta FaceTime my god, baby, That's the main

681
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: reason I'm getting this shit, right. So so yeah, I

682
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: mean I'm I'm happy to be here and I'm having

683
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: a really good experience with it.

684
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 3: I like my phone. Okay, he had one, and for god,

685
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 3: he had one. I did.

686
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 5: I had.

687
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 3: I had a work phone. Forgot about. That's funny until

688
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 3: until Smer brought that ship up. So that's super funny. Yeah.

689
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: I mean whenever you or someone else would point out,

690
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,239
Speaker 2: like you know, that green blue bubble ship that they

691
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: do is just to get you to peer pressure meat

692
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 2: into buying a thousand dollars phone, John, I always had

693
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: to just be like, yeah, yeah, but the blue text

694
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: do look a lot better than the green text.

695
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 3: He did admit the.

696
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 4: Like the interface for it's just way better. You know,

697
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 4: we were I was talking to him about it, Yeah,

698
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 4: like like that ship did. Like he said, like he

699
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 4: didn't know what because when what was it?

700
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: Face time?

701
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 4: Didn't know how to FaceTime initially because he thought it

702
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 4: was all separate. And I'm like, no, you can text, call, FaceTime,

703
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 4: audio and face time through the set through somebody's contact,

704
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 4: but there'd be six different you know, apps you'd have

705
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 4: to go through, or links you have to go through.

706
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying for his old phone.

707
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I have a quick announcement. I have quick announcement.

708
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 6: Uh no to a good announcement. Uh old friend, old coworker.

709
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 6: Beco is in the chat right now.

710
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 3: She was shocked at Tyler got got an iPhone? What's

711
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: up Vico.

712
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 6: For those who are new to the show, because O

713
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 6: G on the production team and uh we miss her.

714
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 3: Well, the O G on the O G on the

715
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 3: production She was no producers, but she was. She was

716
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 3: she was volume. She was volume Volume, Yeah for sure. Yeah. Yeah.

717
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 3: Beco pre dated Jackson right absolutely. And if she pulled

718
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 3: it up to just with the pot that's special. Man.

719
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: I love that Beco hit John and I up man

720
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: with all the fires to make sure we were good

721
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: in everything to.

722
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: Good people. Bro A. Beco was the she She was

723
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 3: the original you know fertility Jenkins and Jones like that.

724
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: You know, it was like a six month period where

725
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: it was just baby, He's flying around everywhere on the

726
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: fucking Zoomers.

727
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 4: It's just like, hey, don't come, guess produce on this

728
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 4: pod unless you're dog in the corner pregnant.

729
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 3: Everybody pregnant. Oh great was the intro. It was funny.

730
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 3: We Uh.

731
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 2: I have nothing for this topic except that I wrote

732
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: it down because John mentioned it on Sunday and I

733
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 2: thought it was funny. But John wants to bring back

734
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: gossiping in twenty twenty five, and I'm very much in

735
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 2: favor of that. So do we have any gossip right

736
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 2: now to share?

737
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 3: I don't have any gossip, man. You know what I'm saying, Like,

738
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 3: would I be gosip by my kids?

739
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 5: Man?

740
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Crazy ass? I'll be tell you, bro,

741
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 3: no more, no more, not because of them.

742
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: You're done, bro, Because it's just like, this is the

743
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: thing you were talking all that she was talking.

744
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 3: So he said, what did he say, Tyler? He said

745
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 3: he wanted to want to be a rotation.

746
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 4: Bro, I wanted seventy I said seventy eight at one point,

747
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 4: crazy right, But like this is the thing I didn't realize, Like,

748
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 4: first of all, you get him in daycare.

749
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: They get sick every four minutes, you know what I mean,

750
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 3: That quickly gets better. But yes, okay, okay, okay.

751
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 4: And then the thing with that too is I have

752
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 4: two now, so like you're now Showles's sick from something

753
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 4: totally different. It's not Nora, It's it's you know what

754
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 4: I'm saying. It's like they just keep It's like something's

755
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 4: always up. I haven't slept, like a food out of sleep,

756
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 4: probably because he's teeth into as well, so you know,

757
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 4: the universe had to throw that shit on top, you know,

758
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 4: let me get him a little congestion on top of that,

759
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 4: like probably five or six, five or six days, I've

760
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 4: had like four and a half to sleep. I don't

761
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 4: want to give you a hug, no, no, but that's

762
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 4: the thing though, Like if I had shorties at your age,

763
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 4: i'd have I'd have at least when you started, Yeah,

764
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 4: at least five, I would have.

765
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 3: I could have did that. I'm forty two, nigga, I

766
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: need sleep. My face is it's far from falling off, nigga.

767
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

768
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying that, You know what I mean.

769
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 2: Like Charlotte talking about that all the time. Like, if

770
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: we got our first kid and it took us, it

771
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: took us a long time to get pregnant. But if

772
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 2: we got our first kid, we were like twenty four,

773
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 2: we probably would have had more than two.

774
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 3: I would have had my basketball team because energy. Yeah,

775
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: I don't have the energy. I'm forty two holding a

776
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 3: two year old a.

777
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 4: Six month year all night so they could sleep. Yeah,

778
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 4: you feel me, like I can't really sign up.

779
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna look back on that nostalgically. Oh for sure, Right,

780
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 3: somebody yesterday me and rather than somebody yesterday.

781
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 4: Like, yo, this is crazy. Something's always going on, and

782
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 4: will miss these times when we look back. You feel me,

783
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 4: But I'll say this. My mom says she misses the times,

784
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 4: But she also says, I don't see don't want to

785
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 4: go back.

786
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 3: She had grateful for. Yeah, she's grateful for seeing everybody

787
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: grow up. Nigga, you know what I mean and doing it.

788
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

789
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, I want to go back.

790
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: It's just like like y'all, like we all enjoyed our twenties.

791
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 2: You couldn't go back to my twenties though I enjoyed.

792
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 3: You couldn't even my thirties, not even my thirties, not

793
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 3: even my thirties. Like I'm enjoying this right here. And

794
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: that's the thing too, Like as much as.

795
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 4: Fun and as I had and freedom as I had

796
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 4: in my twenties and thirties, I prefer this.

797
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 3: Time period with these kids sick every four a minute,

798
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. It's something always it'll get

799
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 3: going on, you know what I mean, up the immunity,

800
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 3: and it's good.

801
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: It's actually good for them to like medically, it's good

802
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: for them to get sick and build up the immunity

803
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: at this.

804
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: We talk about that like you know, something falling a four.

805
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 3: It's good, you know what I mean, You're building up

806
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: in your community, you feel me?

807
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, Like also talking about sister about this,

808
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 4: it's like, when's the last time you had somebody not

809
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:51,479
Speaker 4: cry in your house?

810
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

811
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 4: Every day for the last three years, somebody's crying every

812
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 4: I said, joy, I said, what's the last time? She said,

813
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 4: I don't remember.

814
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 3: Every day crying?

815
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: And so like we lucked out, man, Sometimes no, sometimes

816
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 2: I realize I don't know if we lucked out or

817
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: joined y'all.

818
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 3: We just did it.

819
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: We just didn't have, but even like Maya was a

820
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: more difficult baby, but like she she didn't like it

821
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 2: was just always if we stayed on the schedule with

822
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: naps and feeding. And you've seen my work as a

823
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: burper of babies. A lot of that crying is at

824
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 2: least in my house. Like we I think a lot

825
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: of the cry would have been gas and we we

826
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: were you know, I'm gonna get you in the choke hold, brother,

827
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get that baby in the in the stance.

828
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: We're gonna get that gas up out.

829
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 4: Tony is very emotionally intelligent, right, but it's because she

830
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 4: has big emotions.

831
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 3: So she'll say things.

832
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 4: Which like I'm making fun of the crying, but it's

833
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 4: also really beautiful because I'll be like, Sony, what are

834
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 4: we crying about? She's like, I'm just getting my feelings out,

835
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 4: So good for you, baby girl fucking cry. But god, damn,

836
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 4: it's a thousand times, you know what I'm saying, a

837
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 4: day in a row. So like, I respect that, and

838
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 4: I'm giving her a space, you know what i mean.

839
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 4: But I'm like, damn, every day, you got some feelings

840
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 4: to get out, you know what i mean. But it's

841
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 4: so it's like it's a it's a yo. Keep supporting,

842
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 4: but like every day there's some crying, like it's it's

843
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 4: But I asked joy Joyce said the same thing. She said,

844
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 4: I said, the last time there was somebody didn't cry

845
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 4: in your house? She was like, John, what like she

846
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 4: was pissing. She was pissing you for asking, like your

847
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 4: friend who hates his job. Like if you're like, how

848
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 4: many hours.

849
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 3: Did you work this week? Now, I don't want to

850
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: fucking count up the hours I work this week. That's

851
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 3: not the part of this. I want to focus on.

852
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 4: Yeah about I haven't not had somebody crying my home

853
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 4: for three years, you know, I mean, I'm just going

854
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 4: day by day.

855
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 3: I want to add all that up and thinking about that,

856
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, anyway, here.

857
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 2: Listen, I know there's people in the chat right now,

858
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 2: like that's why I'm not having babies. I saw Jackson's

859
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: face all that shit too.

860
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 6: Well, the people in the chatter on your time, Well, no, no, no,

861
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 6: But this is the analogy I've started beautiful, beautiful experience.

862
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 3: But here's my favorite experience I've ever had in my life.

863
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: The analogy I've started using that I think I find

864
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: the most useful, and I haven't heard anyone say it,

865
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: so I use it here is. I really do think

866
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 2: of it like a second puberty. If you describe having

867
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: gone through puberty to any child who is pre to

868
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 2: any kid who's prepubescent, every aspect of it sounds like

869
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 2: the worst thing in the world. You're telling me I'm

870
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: gonna have hair coming from where I'm gonna be hiding

871
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: a boner, or I'm gonna be getting a period, or.

872
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start liking girls. I'm gonna start liking boys.

873
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 3: All that is.

874
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 2: It's like, uh, and then once you've gone through puberty,

875
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 2: you look at not having gone through puberty and you're like, well,

876
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: I can't imagine that.

877
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: It's obviously good to be able to get a direction

878
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 3: like so that.

879
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 2: So that's my explanation, not just suggest that it is

880
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 2: like a becoming an adult type thing. It's just that's

881
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 2: the level. It's the only two times your brain rewires

882
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: itself that much. To where John and I are looking

883
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 2: at each other and I'm honestly telling him, I have

884
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 2: fond memories of holding my daughter at three am and

885
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 2: her barfing, and I just look at it as like

886
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 2: special times we spent together, like Okay.

887
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 4: Look when I called y'all whatever, when y'all when Jaxson

888
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 4: was like logging early so we can get here on time, and.

889
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 3: I was like, give me a second. Nope.

890
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 4: I had him all night and he fell asleep, and

891
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 4: I'm like, let me soak in this a little bit,

892
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like I still soak it

893
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 4: every moment. It's just like I realized it's the same

894
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 4: reason I could like I don't want to be out

895
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 4: home no more.

896
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 3: I've aged out, bro, I've aged out of that, you know.

897
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 4: So I feel like a forty two it'd be really

898
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 4: hard for me to keep this up because and I

899
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 4: told Rother that's like if we were to have more kids,

900
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 4: so I might give front of all or whatever. But

901
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 4: I said, oh, Rother, I said, I don't think it

902
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 4: would be fair to the next kid because I couldn't

903
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 4: be the dad that I've been with these first two

904
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 4: because I don't have the energy.

905
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 3: So that's really, really really why you know what I'm saying.

906
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: But we got friends with six seven kids, bro, And

907
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: what every parent of multiple kids will tell you is

908
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 2: the biggest transformation is zero to one.

909
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, then having two is cool.

910
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: Having three is the next biggest trans transformation and everything

911
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 2: and then everything after that is the same.

912
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 3: That's what they said.

913
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: Like we have friends who literally were like, having five

914
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: kids the exact same as having three kids. Like yeah,

915
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: because at that point you're just like, but there's less

916
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: crying because they're just that baby is going to learn

917
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 2: to take care of itself.

918
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

919
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, That's why I say if I was older, I mean,

920
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 4: I started younger to be cool. You feel me to

921
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 4: be cool, I could have dealt with you know what

922
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 4: I mean? But yeah, but when I'm breaking everything down,

923
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 4: it's crazy, but I am. I am such such a

924
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 4: better person. These kids force me to be better, and

925
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 4: the best way in order for them to be the

926
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 4: best I can be is me being the best me

927
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 4: I could be and realizing.

928
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 3: That, Like it's just g so like yeah yeah yeah.

929
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 4: Like like I say, like people think I'm just it

930
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 4: may sound like I'm just saying some shit where I'm like,

931
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 4: what so me, I've learned so much more from Sony

932
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 4: than I tall, you know what I'm saying, Like from

933
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 4: having kids, Like these kids have taught me way more

934
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 4: than I could have talked to them.

935
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 3: In this spent a time, you know what I mean,

936
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 3: because of what it.

937
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 4: Requires for me to help them be a better person,

938
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying of me and what I

939
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 4: have to change and grow where I have to grow.

940
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 3: So yeah, gee, like it's a special experience.

941
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 4: But like, like I said, if I had more kids,

942
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 4: I couldn't be the parent OUT wanted to be because

943
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 4: I'm fucking old nigga and I'm tired, you know what

944
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

945
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 3: Like, you know's dad had her when he was fifty

946
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 3: years old. Can you imagine my youngest brother.

947
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 4: My dad had him at fifty but he don't give

948
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 4: a fucking the way I give a fuck.

949
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 3: I could have more kids, you know, like it could happened.

950
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: But you know, I needed a Jenis and Jones super

951
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 2: fan to start the podcast.

952
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 3: Do I need it?

953
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: We need a graph starting at the first SoundCloud pod

954
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 2: that John and Tyler did on the fucking and recording

955
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: into Plastic Solo Kids string. I need a chart of

956
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: the number of kids John wanted to have over the

957
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: course of the podcast, because it went from zero to

958
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: one to seven hundred to two and now we're one.

959
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 3: Of the village.

960
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, bro, I mean like this is the same

961
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 4: the second one because also I'm like, I have Sohola

962
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 4: at night, we you know, instead of like you know,

963
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 4: us tag team and all that type of shit, Like

964
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 4: that was more of a reality check, like this is

965
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 4: what it takes in order to have multiple kids. If

966
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 4: it was just if if one kid was just an

967
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 4: extra kid and not all the other things that come

968
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 4: with nigga, What do you mean like one kid was cake?

969
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: You know what I mean to me? You know what

970
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 3: I'm saying, two kids, the logistics get crazy, and I

971
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 3: didn't take that into consideration. That means that was We

972
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 3: had a couple of friends who had twins.

973
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 2: And the thing that they all said the best advice

974
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: they got because they were fine of it, obviously because

975
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: they saw how like, you know, how tired people with

976
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: one kid was or whatever, and what they said, what

977
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: the best advice they said they got was you're just

978
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 2: gonna be at capacity emotionally, like whether it's one kid

979
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: or it's two kids, or it's three kids, Like, you're

980
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 2: not gonna be You're gonna be tired either way, you

981
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

982
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 3: You're gonna tired.

983
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 4: Three yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, but yeah, the the yes,

984
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 4: the emotional like yeah, Like there are times bro where

985
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 4: like I just gotta to be the parent I want

986
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 4: to be, and I'm my cup is empty, right, I

987
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 4: have to walk away because I'm not gonna yell. I'm

988
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 4: not gonna take anything out of these shorties. Let me

989
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 4: walk away, Let them have a little moment. They'll be okay.

990
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 4: I know they're saying, like my therapist on me, like

991
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 4: go get some fresh air and then come back, you

992
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 4: know what I mean, because you'll find yourself at capacity.

993
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

994
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 4: It's at odd times, but yeah, but this this experience is,

995
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 4: like I said, it's the best experience I've ever had.

996
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 3: It's also the craziest and the most demanding. But that's

997
00:45:58,520 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: what it takes for me to be the best me

998
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 3: i'mna be, you.

999
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.

1000
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 2: So that's a good transition spot into me talking about

1001
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: getting less fat. If you don't give a fuck about this,

1002
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: you are not going to hurt my feelings if you

1003
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 2: turn the podcast off at this time. But I mentioned

1004
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 2: on a podcast a while ago that at one point,

1005
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: you know, about a year ago, my weight had gotten

1006
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 2: up to two hundred and forty eight pounds, and I am.

1007
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: I stepped on the scale this morning. I'm at two

1008
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: hundred and nine pounds right now.

1009
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, thank you.

1010
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: Please make fun of me as much as you wander.

1011
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: And this is not supposed to be a serious segment

1012
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: at all.

1013
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 3: But it's beautiful.

1014
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 5: Man.

1015
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 3: You was you know what I'm saying. He was the

1016
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 3: same weight bron weights. You know it's six ft tall. Yeah,

1017
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: so but I wanted.

1018
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: I do feel like I learned some lessons that might

1019
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 2: be helpful in terms of what worked for me, because

1020
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 2: I've always I'm a I'm a couple of piece of background.

1021
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 2: Number one, I'm a sportswriter for most of my adult life.

1022
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 2: Guy became a sports writer at twenty three years old.

1023
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 2: I finished work at eleven pm. It's no healthy places

1024
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: in the world to eat at eleven pm. So it's just,

1025
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 2: you know, from the twenties, it was like hell, yeah,

1026
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: all right, let's get some Wendy's. I mean, people you've

1027
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: seen my tweets about Wendy's, Like they know me at Wendy's.

1028
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 2: What's up, Mike, It's good to see you want the

1029
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: Frosty and the junior Bacon cheeseburgers. But the other thing

1030
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: that maybe is helpful to know is that, you know,

1031
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: my dad was an alcoholic. His dad was an alcoholic,

1032
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: and we have a we have like a very strong

1033
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 2: history of addiction to my family. So from a young

1034
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: age for me, it was like I'm not gonna drink,

1035
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna start smoking or like really do any

1036
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: drugs or anything like that, because this has gone poorly

1037
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: for everyone in my family that has even like cracked

1038
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 2: the door open on any of this shit. And I

1039
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 2: have for sure a super compulsive personality. I think I

1040
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 2: told the story on the pod that like when I

1041
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 2: was like eight, I realized that doing Q tips in

1042
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 2: your ear felt good, and at the end of the day,

1043
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 2: I just without even realizing it, like in between activities,

1044
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: I would go do a Q tip in my ear

1045
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 2: and at the end of the day it was like

1046
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: a little bit of blood on the end of the

1047
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 2: Q tip and my mom was like, We're gonna have

1048
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 2: to watch out for you, brother. So you know, what

1049
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 2: I've tried to do in my life is to channel

1050
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: that problem with my brain into things that would be

1051
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 2: good for me and the people around me. I'm a

1052
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: workaholic for sure, John and I have been supportive to

1053
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 2: each other about some of that stuff.

1054
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 3: But like that's what I did.

1055
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: I've thrown myself into my life, and I have a

1056
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: job that I love, which allows me to feel like

1057
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: it's okay that I gives so much myself to the

1058
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: work I'm doing. When I had a family, it's the

1059
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: same thing, throw myself into taking care of my kids whatever.

1060
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: To the extent that the time I went into therapy

1061
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 2: was for remembering how to enjoy myself doing things for

1062
00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 2: me because I stopped doing it. But Tyler asked me

1063
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: one time in the pod, and I thought about it

1064
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 2: actually a fair amount, Like he's like, what do you

1065
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: do at the end of a stressful day. He's like,

1066
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: I'll smoke weed or you know, have a little some

1067
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: of to drink or whatever. And I was like, I

1068
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 2: don't do anything, Like I just I read. Reading is

1069
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: really the healthy answer. But the unhealthy answer is I

1070
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 2: would eat ice cream, or I would eat popcorn, or

1071
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 2: whatever it was that was in front of me, I

1072
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: would finish it. And some of that I think is

1073
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 2: tied up in like economic stuff. I've told you all

1074
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 2: about how you know, jelly bean poor my grandma was.

1075
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: But I grew up with people who are like you

1076
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 2: have to finish all your food, or as disrespectful to

1077
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 2: your family that was starving to death like throughout their life.

1078
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 2: So you know, there was between that and not having

1079
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 2: much money. Like I've told you all, if my mom

1080
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: brought home a store like a brand name box of

1081
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 2: cereal and not like the store bag, my brother and

1082
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 2: I probably if you filmed it look like wolverines.

1083
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 3: Like it was like, if I eat four.

1084
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 2: Bowls of the frosted flakes right now, I could get

1085
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 2: more than he's gonna get. And I'm dead serious. My

1086
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: mom will come home with something and the shit would

1087
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: be gone in an hour. So there's like some unhealthy

1088
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: wiring in there, and I'm also to tap into, I

1089
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: guess some of the deeper therapy issues, like I'm not

1090
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 2: always super nice to myself, and so whenever my weight's

1091
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: always gone up and down and I would get healthy

1092
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 2: because I would get almost like manic about working out

1093
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 2: and eating right and all this other shit. And my

1094
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 2: doctor would always tell me, like, it's not.

1095
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 3: Super healthy for you to do that. It would be

1096
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 3: better for you to be stable.

1097
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: But it was the case that like when I would

1098
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: start running, I would run like fifty miles a week

1099
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 2: or something to where it was physically causing me to

1100
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 2: break down. And I realized it was like almost a

1101
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 2: form of punishing myself, which is kind of like something

1102
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 2: my wife is trying to get me to be better at.

1103
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 2: But like, if I lose my sunglasses, I have super

1104
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: sensitive eyes, I'll make myself walk around with no sunglasses

1105
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: for three months because it's like I can't get new

1106
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 2: ones until I've served my time or something, you know

1107
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 2: what I mean, Because like I fucked up, but that's.

1108
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 3: The way it was white Ah, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah,

1109
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 3: you're working on that. Yeah. Yeah.

1110
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 2: So like last year, I knew I was turning forty,

1111
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 2: and my mom says something to me that that was

1112
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 2: super helpful, which was she's like, you're forty. It's not

1113
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: really gonna change from here, Like you have to learn

1114
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 2: to live with what you have, and it's not gonna

1115
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: be that you suddenly don't like eating cheeseburgers anymore. You can't,

1116
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 2: like you have to stop trying, like except that you

1117
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: are a bigger dude who likes to eat, and then

1118
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 2: work within that. And so for me, it was coming

1119
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 2: up with a plan that instead of a sort of

1120
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 2: binge perge cycle I was on where it was like okay,

1121
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 2: and then now I'm pissed at myself somewhere in my brain.

1122
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 2: So I'm eating a bunch of donuts and I've turned

1123
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 2: my brain off, and then I wake up the next

1124
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: day like pissed at myself, like why the fuck did

1125
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 2: I do that? It was like, why don't you find

1126
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: healthy things that you could enjoy that are not a punishment,

1127
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 2: which sadly was a super revolutionary concept to me. But

1128
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,959
Speaker 2: it was literally like trying a bunch of salads until

1129
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 2: I found some salads that, like, I actually like to eat,

1130
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 2: Like a bacon caesar salad I think is delicious, uh,

1131
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 2: Or an apple salad or a lemon salad with a

1132
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: lemon vinaigrette I find delicious. It's not better than a cheeseburger,

1133
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 2: but it's not like fuck you, you don't get a cheeseburger.

1134
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 2: You gotta eat this shit because you're trying to get

1135
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 2: healthy because you're a fucking fat ass, which is what

1136
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 2: my brain was functionally doing previously when I would try.

1137
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 3: To get healthy.

1138
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 2: So finding stuff that I liked was good. Eating in

1139
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 2: moderation was that was like the last hurdle for me.

1140
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: And it was actually a friend of mine who's also

1141
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 2: Italian who gave me perspective on that, which was like,

1142
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 2: I was just like, it's just the one thing, bro, Like,

1143
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 2: why I open something up, I just eat it and

1144
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 2: finish it. And he was like, yeah, but you don't

1145
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 2: have to do that. He was like, I was the

1146
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: same way. He went from like two hundred and eighty

1147
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 2: pounds down to like two hundred and fifteen pounds and

1148
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 2: so but he told me, and he was the one

1149
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: where I was like, so, what are you doing. He's like,

1150
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 2: I was just walking and eating less. Bro. He's like,

1151
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 2: I don't go to the gym. I still eat all

1152
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: the food that I like eating. I just if I

1153
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 2: opened up a pint or a quarter or whatever, the

1154
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: like Hagganda's ice cream is one hundred percent clearance rate

1155
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 2: in the first thirty years thirty nine years of my life. Now, okay, cool,

1156
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna open it. I'm gonna take a bite, I'm

1157
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 2: gonna take a deep breath, I'm gonna eat the top

1158
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 2: fifth of it, and then I'll put it away. And

1159
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 2: it's not as miserable as what I just described. It's

1160
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 2: more just like being mindful about what I'm doing and

1161
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 2: being like, oh cool, now I get to eat ice

1162
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 2: cream too tomorrow too, instead of being like I'm only

1163
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 2: allowed one of these a week Friday night, I'm gonna

1164
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: open it up and I'm gonna fucking house it.

1165
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 3: So it's it.

1166
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 2: But it's been really diff It was really difficult for

1167
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: the first month to try and get into that, like

1168
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: consistently not finishing my dider, just forcing myself to be like,

1169
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 2: I'm not going to finish my dinner. I'm gonna put

1170
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: leftovers away, and then I will have a little bit

1171
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: of steak with my salad tomorrow for lunch or whatever. Uh,

1172
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 2: that's my secret is that I have not There was

1173
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: not a secret. None of the shit that I was trying,

1174
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 2: that intermittent fact, none of that shit worked for me.

1175
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 2: So like I still usually don't eat breakfast, but if

1176
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 2: I'm with people and we're having breakfast, I will eat

1177
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 2: breakfast and then I will have a small lunch and

1178
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 2: then But like it really was, I think I went

1179
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 2: forty years without having how full my stomach was determine

1180
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 2: how much food I was eating, which might sound insane

1181
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 2: to say because that's how my wife has lived every

1182
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 2: day of her life. But I just would eat all

1183
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 2: the food and then move on. And like if I

1184
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 2: was if I was anxious about stuff, I would realize like, oh,

1185
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 2: I've been, you know, eating all of the kids desserts.

1186
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: I've been eating blue bluey fruits necks for twenty minutes.

1187
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 2: So it was like all that settling in for me

1188
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,439
Speaker 2: and getting to a point of being like it's okay

1189
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: to just accept the things about yourself instead of fighting

1190
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 2: your body and your brain and just try to create

1191
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,959
Speaker 2: something that feels better and leads to more peacefulness within

1192
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: the shit that I can't change. I guess that's that's

1193
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 2: what ultimately came down to it for me. And also

1194
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 2: John told me that lifting weights will help you lose

1195
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 2: weight more than cardio would, which was very very true

1196
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 2: because when you do cardios, like I would come home

1197
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: and it was that punishment thing, like I said, like, well,

1198
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 2: I fucking ramped myself into a ground on the treadmill.

1199
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 2: Let me get some donuts on there, let me get

1200
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 2: let me get four Reese's hearts on the way home.

1201
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 3: You can't out cardio what you eat, you know what

1202
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 3: I mean?

1203
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 4: But also like cardio you burn fat for like three

1204
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 4: hours and then when you're lifting, you burning for three days,

1205
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 4: which your muscles are trying to rebuild.

1206
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1207
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 4: Oh but uh yeah, like you brought up an interesting

1208
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 4: thing and like not letting your stomach decide, you know,

1209
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 4: Like how fool you were, Like I remember me and you,

1210
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 4: Like I thought you were supposed to eat till you

1211
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 4: felt pain, same like till you couldn't eat anymore, Like

1212
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 4: I thought that's what was expected. And then like also

1213
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 4: having three other siblings in the house, you know, six

1214
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 4: all together, but three in the house, you know what

1215
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 4: I mean, Like Nigga, you had.

1216
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 3: To eat, bro, or you might not, you know what

1217
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Yeah, bunce the motherfuckers in here, you know

1218
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 3: what I mean? Like, get it, bro, you know what

1219
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 3: I mean. So that's interesting how that you know, you know,

1220
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 3: affects you as an adult.

1221
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 4: Of course it does, but you don't really think it

1222
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 4: think about it as when you're younger, and even when

1223
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 4: you're older, you don't really realize until you're talking with

1224
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 4: in front of therapists and they say something, you know, yeah, I.

1225
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: Think your mom said something really wise in regards to

1226
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: channeling it and not getting rid of it, because I'm

1227
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: a firm believer that, like, if you have an addictive personality,

1228
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: you cannot get rid of that aspect of you. You

1229
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: just have to fine tune what you're addicted to, you

1230
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because you know, oftentimes you'll see

1231
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: it's like someone will be like substance abuse, and they'll

1232
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: and they immerse themselves in like physical fitness, or they

1233
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: start running, or they or they dived head deep into

1234
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: a hobby, right, totally, Like, if you have an addictive personality,

1235
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: you just need to get rid of the bad addictions

1236
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: and find the good shit to really you know, lock

1237
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: in on. So yeah, yeah, man, I think that was

1238
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: a really good point brought up by your mom.

1239
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure.

1240
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 2: And like I think I had mistakenly felt like because

1241
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 2: I did not become an alcoholic and I was like

1242
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 2: there for my kids, I was like cool, Like so

1243
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 2: now I can just let that personality run wild on

1244
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 2: the other shit. But it's like, you know what my

1245
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: when I was sitting down with my doctor was She's

1246
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 2: telling me, She's like, I mean, you die from a

1247
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: heart attack at.

1248
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 3: Forty two versus you die from from cirrhosis.

1249
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 2: At forty two, it's the same fucking shit, bro, Like,

1250
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 2: if you want to be here, you got to figure

1251
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: out a way to you know, get all your numbers down.

1252
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 2: Because my I went into the doctor at thirty and

1253
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 2: all the numbers were like flashing red on lipids and

1254
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 2: cholesterol and all that shit, you know what I mean.

1255
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that's exactly right, Tyler. But it's

1256
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 2: like it it can't always be the lesser of two evils.

1257
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, and even even like with the with

1258
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: the with the work stuff, like I you know, having

1259
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 2: kids has been like like John said, first, none of

1260
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 2: this would have happen for me if I had not

1261
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 2: had kids, because the whole thing was a motivation too.

1262
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 2: And I've admitted this to shar like in an embarrassed way,

1263
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 2: like being there for the kids when they're older is

1264
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 2: a motivating thing in a way that being there for

1265
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 2: your wife or being there for your own life is

1266
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 2: was not motivating for me, And I've apologized for that

1267
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 2: because it's like that's not actually what my priorities were.

1268
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 2: It's just the way that the wiring was or whatever,

1269
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 2: and so but that was like what made me. That

1270
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 2: was like with the wake up call for me is

1271
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,439
Speaker 2: like I'm forty three, man, the kids aren't even gonna

1272
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 2: be out of high school, like you know, like that's

1273
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 2: some some some scary shit to be thinking about or whatever.

1274
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 2: So yeah, I, like I said, I clearly I don't

1275
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 2: really have like great advice for people other than but

1276
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 2: that's just what worked for me, is like being at

1277
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 2: peace with myself instead of fighting myself, which I think

1278
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 2: a lot of people who are trying to lose weight

1279
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 2: or whatever, it's coming from a place of anger or

1280
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 2: shame at themselves, and that's you're just not going to

1281
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 2: achieve a lot of productive things that you're doing out

1282
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 2: of anger and shame.

1283
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 4: Like and like one thing you one thing you said

1284
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 4: to me that was really interesting was you know, making

1285
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 4: sure to do things that you enjoy because that part

1286
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 4: of your brain will he rode.

1287
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. I never thought that.

1288
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 4: You know, if you're just focused, focused, focus, focused on

1289
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 4: or like being mean to yourself whatever, where it'll get

1290
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 4: to a.

1291
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 3: Point where you'll need that part of your brain and

1292
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 3: you won't know how to have fun.

1293
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 4: Like you talked about like during a Cristommer break, you

1294
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, where you had free time, and

1295
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 4: you didn't know what to do because you hadn't fed

1296
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 4: that part of your brain. And I just think, like

1297
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 4: people listening, you know when you told me it was

1298
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 4: like my eye opening people.

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00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 3: The story.

1300
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: The story I told John about why I went into

1301
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 2: therapy this is the summer before the pandemic, was that, like,

1302
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 2: I'm a workaholic, so I throw myself into it. And

1303
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 2: then it's like, oh, I got my kids, and so

1304
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 2: you know, like I said, I and just to be clear,

1305
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 2: like I love my I love my job, and I

1306
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 2: love my kids, like I'm happy that I have been

1307
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 2: able to give so much of myself to those things.

1308
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, we have this thing.

1309
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 2: If you know any teachers, they have the same thing.

1310
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 2: People who work calendars on the school thing you know

1311
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 2: is March, she's starting to slide, and you're like, summer's

1312
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 2: three months from now.

1313
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 3: It's April.

1314
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:22,959
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, okay, cool, but summer's in two months

1315
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 2: and you know everything will be okay.

1316
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 3: It's May.

1317
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 2: Now, I'm tired as fuck, but like next month, we're

1318
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 2: not gonna have to get up early anymore or whatever, right,

1319
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 2: And then summer hit and I was dealing with like

1320
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 2: I dealt with depression quite a bit as a kid,

1321
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 2: and uh, and just always kind of found different ways

1322
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 2: to manage it or.

1323
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 3: Pull myself out of those episodes.

1324
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 2: And I sort of ran through my checklist of like

1325
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 2: shit that I would do to pull myself out of it,

1326
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: and nothing was working. And so that's what shar was like, Hey,

1327
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 2: you should. You should talk to someone. She's like, and

1328
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: she actually kind of called me a frau. She's like,

1329
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 2: you tell every person You've gotten so many of your

1330
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 2: friends to go talk to a therapist, and you're fucking

1331
01:00:58,440 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 2: sitting here not knowing.

1332
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 3: What to do. You're like, well, I'm not gonna not

1333
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 3: for me because I got to punish myself, you know whatever.

1334
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 3: So but I talked to her therapist. That's what she says.

1335
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 2: She's like, it literally is parts of your brain. Like

1336
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 2: she said, what's the last fun thing you did that

1337
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 2: wasn't connected to work? And I said, well, I had

1338
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 2: this podcast with my friends. And she was like, yeah,

1339
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 2: but you told me the podcast is paying you now,

1340
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 2: and I was like, well, yes.

1341
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 3: Pain is pretty good.

1342
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 2: She's like, well, hey, buddy, I got fucking news for

1343
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 2: you that is like might be a fun job, but

1344
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 2: that's the job. I said, okay, well, you know, I

1345
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 2: like watching sports. And she's like, you're a fucking sports writer.

1346
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 2: She's like, you're watching the games. You're not like thinking

1347
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 2: about you know, Like yeah, And I was like, okay,

1348
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 2: I like to read. And she goes, and you're a writer,

1349
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 2: so you're reading. You're not reading stuff thinking about what

1350
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 2: you would take or how you do things.

1351
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 3: And I was like okay.

1352
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 2: And so we came to video games was the one

1353
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,959
Speaker 2: thing in my life that was not connected to work

1354
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 2: in any way that was like fun. She's like, was

1355
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 2: the last time you played video games? And I was like,

1356
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 2: I think it was a month before my son was born.

1357
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 2: So she literally made me like put it in my calendar,

1358
01:01:58,200 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 2: like you are going to play video games for thirty

1359
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 2: it's tomorrow night. Like put the kids down, do your

1360
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 2: full day with the kids. You want to have the

1361
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 2: time with the kids. But then like tell your wife

1362
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna watch our show together or go for a walk,

1363
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 2: but like I'm gonna play video games for thirty minutes.

1364
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 2: And it's like embarrassing how effective it was to make

1365
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 2: twenty or thirty minutes of time a day for fun things.

1366
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you were talking about how like you how

1367
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 3: you talk to yourself.

1368
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 4: I remember Tyler said something one time and you were

1369
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 4: talking about you said if you if the person, if

1370
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 4: you're inner brain was not part of you, would you

1371
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 4: fuck with that person?

1372
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 3: And that was eye opening for me too, Like I

1373
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 3: was like, yo, you know, cause we I think like because.

1374
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 4: Of our generation, we tend to talk to ourselves and

1375
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 4: pick Away and maybe my parents we were younger, yes, yep,

1376
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 4: and we bring that with us and it's like, Yo,

1377
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,479
Speaker 4: if this motherfucker in your brain was not in your brain,

1378
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 4: would you beat around that person?

1379
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 3: And you just gotta be watch that. But those are

1380
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 3: things that Yeah, I remember Tyler's saying.

1381
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 2: That because I have used that with Vinnie and Maya

1382
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 2: so many times where I've said, like, I could tell

1383
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 2: Maya especially, you could tell when she's being really hard

1384
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 2: on herself, and I'll ask her what you're thinking right now?

1385
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 3: Does that sound like something that your daddy would say

1386
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 3: to you that She'll be like, no, said what then?

1387
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 3: The fact that you could say that though, I'll be

1388
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 3: right with that.

1389
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, But like but it's but it's a similar thing,

1390
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 2: John of like some a lot of that work I've

1391
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 2: done over the last year comes from literally just follow

1392
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 2: the advice you were giving to your children, Like why

1393
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 2: if this is how you want your children to be,

1394
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 2: why would you not give that to yourself? Of like

1395
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 2: you don't have to beat yourself up, Like like you know,

1396
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 2: like you were talking about your kid knocks the bowl

1397
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 2: on the ground. That was Shark's thing that she always

1398
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 2: said was we shouldn't be harder on the kids than

1399
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 2: we be on ourselves. Like you know, if you fuck

1400
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 2: something up at work, you don't yell and scream at yourself.

1401
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 2: You go, Okay, I'm gonna get it next time or whatever.

1402
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 2: And so that's what we try to do with the kids,

1403
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 2: but we don't really do that with ourselves. We're both

1404
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 2: real hard on ourselves. You know, Like if I if

1405
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 2: if this this happened two Christmases ago, I was backing

1406
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 2: up some asshole like pulled his car up. I was

1407
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 2: backing out of a parking spot at one of the

1408
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 2: diagonal was right, and so you know, I hit the car.

1409
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 2: I was so pissed myself. I didn't see this, dude,

1410
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 2: I didn't I thought about this ship for a month.

1411
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 3: Bro.

1412
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 2: I did not take one shower for a month where

1413
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 2: I wasn't like, now I got to deal with this

1414
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 2: fucking insurance stuff because my you know, and it was

1415
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 2: like literally not even a my fault accident like that

1416
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 2: was how like hard I was being on myself. But again,

1417
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 2: we would never tell our kids that. I would never,

1418
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 2: in a moment of happiness, if Vinnie was having to

1419
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 2: be like, do you remember this.

1420
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 3: Thing fucked up three weeks ago? I would never.

1421
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 2: I would detest myself if I did that to my child.

1422
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 2: But I spent forty years basically sort of doing that

1423
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 2: to myself, you know what I mean. So, yeah, Tyler

1424
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 2: Tiler's got some heaters, bro every now and then, you know,

1425
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 2: Tyler and my mom bro, you know the Yeah. Anyway,

1426
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,439
Speaker 2: hopefully that was useful to someone. I don't know whatever,

1427
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 2: but that's definitely useful.

1428
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 6: Man, Thank you for sharing, Mike, that was very nice.

1429
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 3: Don't do that. Don't do that. That was great.

1430
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 4: Appreciate you for being vulnerable and opened my nigga, that's beautiful.

1431
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 3: That can't be the only bitch on this pod crying

1432
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 3: every pod second. Nigga. You were saying it may be emotional,

1433
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 3: I'm a but anyway.

1434
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 2: I cry every time you're being open and emotional. But

1435
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 2: that's where it's like I'm I can't, but it's like

1436
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 2: it's like I believe in that, and I love being

1437
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 2: a part of a podcast that promotes that. And I'm

1438
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 2: just sure much more comfortable when y'all are doing it

1439
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 2: than when I'm.

1440
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 3: Doing it, Like that's it. Yeah, yeah, but it's beautiful

1441
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 3: you do it.

1442
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,439
Speaker 2: But when you do it that, I feel like, oh cool,

1443
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 2: I did it, Like that's you know, I asked him

1444
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 2: the question that led to him.

1445
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 3: Modeling positive masculinity. No, we got emotional in his face

1446
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 3: for that. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. All right. That's all

1447
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 3: the time we got.

1448
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 2: We'll be back on Thursday with much less about my

1449
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 2: body and much more with can we are we announcing

1450
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 2: the guests?

1451
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 3: Can we do that? Okay?

1452
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 2: Gojo is joining us on Thursday. We're gonna talk some

1453
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 2: college football national championship. Obviously he's very excited for his

1454
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,919
Speaker 2: Notre Dame fighting Irish, so we'll have Gojo. I also

1455
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 2: want to ask him how the interview with Braun was,

1456
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 2: you know, if that was enjoyable, like all that. We

1457
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 2: were just talking about having Braun on and whether we

1458
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 2: thought we could get honesty out of him and stuff

1459
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 2: like that.

1460
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,439
Speaker 3: So excited to talk to Gojo on Thursday and we'll

1461
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 3: see all that. Bye by

1462
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: The volume