Speaker 1: Sabrina. Even I've heard of the movie we're doing today.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean what does.
Speaker 1: That tell you. I mean, there's not many, but I've
Speaker 1: heard of this one because you know, I think even
Speaker 1: if you didn't watch Dizzy Channel at the time, which
Speaker 1: I didn't, and you didn't watch the show this was
Speaker 1: based on, which of course I didn't, everybody heard this name.
Speaker 1: It was just in the zeitgeist everywhere.
Speaker 2: I mean absolutely, this was I feel like the platform
Speaker 2: that was a good foundation that then helped when the
Speaker 2: Cheetah Girls came out, and then even more when Miley
Speaker 2: Cyrus and Hannah Montana came out.
Speaker 1: So Miley Cyrus and Hannah Montana were after this.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was basically on the channel. It was Lizzie McGuire,
Speaker 2: that's so raven, then Hannah Montana.
Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha. I didn't know the order was.
Speaker 2: There kind of their bright new shiny star that was
Speaker 2: happening as it was. I think they had filmed the
Speaker 2: first the first season, or they were in depths of
Speaker 2: filming it before we even did the first Cheetah Girls,
Speaker 2: So it kind of really like we stacked on top
Speaker 2: of that so raven and then you know it was
Speaker 2: kind of like a stacking thing. And then after that
Speaker 2: when we went for our second movie at the upfront
Speaker 2: is when they were releasing Hannah Montana and that was gotcha.
Speaker 2: It's everything that they did with Lizzie McGuire, boom on
Speaker 2: the next level, like five levels up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense because I didn't know which order
Speaker 1: they came in. Okay, so Lizzy McGuire was the og. Gotcha. Well,
Speaker 1: obviously we were talking about the Lizzie McGuire movie. There's
Speaker 1: no get around that. So first though, welcome back to
Speaker 1: Magical Rewind, the show that makes you want to grab
Speaker 1: your friends, your pj's, and your popcorn and go back
Speaker 1: to a time when all the houses were smart, the waves,
Speaker 1: tsunamis and double Team still sucked. I'm Wilfredell.
Speaker 2: And I'm Sabriena Brian.
Speaker 1: That was for one of our producers because we just
Speaker 1: got into another double teamed conversation. Anyway, people this time
Speaker 1: were going all the way to Rome kind of with
Speaker 1: one of Disney's most memorable characters. It's a movie that
Speaker 1: found itself with a newly minted cult status in the
Speaker 1: twenty twenties. That's right, we're talking about two thousand and
Speaker 1: threes cinematic finale to the channel's Lizzie McGuire series, which
Speaker 1: is creatively titled The Lizzie McGuire Movie. There you go,
Speaker 1: So did you? Sorry, we're just kidding. Alrighty, we're already
Speaker 1: getting We just got from one of our producers in
Speaker 1: the comments there was absolutely nothing wrong with this movie. Nothing.
Speaker 1: I beg to differ, and we'll get into it. But, Sabrina,
Speaker 1: did you watch the original TV show? You did? Didn't you?
Speaker 2: I did? This was when? So two thousand and three
Speaker 2: was the finale of this show, right, they had two
Speaker 2: very long I guess what we found out recently, two
Speaker 2: very long seasons.
Speaker 1: And technically three years.
Speaker 2: It hits the sixty five episode ark. But so that's
Speaker 2: interesting to find out. But so, you know, you're talking
Speaker 2: like three years of it, and these were the three
Speaker 2: years that I was like hardcore auditioning and auditioning and auditioning. Okay,
Speaker 2: damn TV shows on the channel, these.
Speaker 1: Freaking did you ever audition for Lizzie Maguire?
Speaker 2: I bet you, because I was on the Jersey. I
Speaker 2: know I auditioned for Jet Jackson, and I know I
Speaker 2: ad I probably did because I'm telling you any kind
Speaker 2: anytime there was like a role for somebody who could
Speaker 2: look you know that fourteen ish, and that's what I
Speaker 2: looked that I got. I was lucky enough to get
Speaker 2: an audition, so I'm sure I did. They kind of
Speaker 2: all meshed together at this point, but I was watching
Speaker 2: the channel because I was like kind of studying it,
Speaker 2: you know, like what do I need to do?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: Even just to the point of wanting to see what
Speaker 2: they wear, so that when I went into an audition,
Speaker 2: I looked like a Disney kid, you know. So I
Speaker 2: was watching Lizzie McGuire a lot, and I thought Hillary
Speaker 2: Duff was thebomb dot com. Like, I loved her. I
Speaker 2: thought she was so cute. She was for me, the
Speaker 2: first one that I show saw on the channel that
Speaker 2: was kind of pushing more fashionable choices that like with
Speaker 2: her hair, just very old like end of nineties style
Speaker 2: with her hair early two thousands like she was. She
Speaker 2: was a cool kid, even though she was like playing younger.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and then I followed her career as she
Speaker 2: really took off into being an app star and star
Speaker 2: and all of that, Like I followed that career, and yeah,
Speaker 2: she was I loved.
Speaker 1: Hillary Duff, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Knock knock, who's there? Will?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I never watched the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you did know because you could not.
Speaker 1: You could just know, like Canna Montana or any of
Speaker 1: those kind of names, like Lizzie mcgre Everyone knew the
Speaker 1: name Lizzy McGuire if you didn't know the show. Everyone
Speaker 1: knew the name Hannah Montana if you didn't know the show.
Speaker 1: These these were everyone knew, high school musical, the Cheetah Girls.
Speaker 1: These are things that they popped off of the Disney
Speaker 1: Channel into just mainstay pop culture. Now I never knew
Speaker 1: what they exactly were, but of course everybody knew the
Speaker 1: names like Lizzie McGuire and stuff like that. And now
Speaker 1: we talked about this when we recapped the Even Stevens movie.
Speaker 1: But it was a common move for Disney to pay
Speaker 1: for only two or three seasons of a show. We
Speaker 1: talked about that the sixty five and out rule, saving
Speaker 1: them the required bumps for producers and talent. But then
Speaker 1: they'd green led a movie to wrap up the story
Speaker 1: on the way out and pay totally different contracts. Lizzy
Speaker 1: McGuire the TV show only ran again technically two seasons,
Speaker 1: but that meant sixty five episodes, if you can believe it.
Speaker 1: They did a lot of shooting in two years now.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about this more in detail later, but the
Speaker 1: show was obviously a vehicle for Hillary Duff, one of
Speaker 1: the biggest young stars the Channel had in the early oughts,
Speaker 1: a double threat in acting and music and was completely
Speaker 1: homegrown this She was like a Disney Channel star, one
Speaker 1: of the originals. So the Cheetah Girls Lizybiguire timeline seems
Speaker 1: to have been going on at the same time, right
Speaker 1: around that time you said you were a fan. Did
Speaker 1: you get to know her at all or no?
Speaker 2: You know, I ran into her sister more often. So
Speaker 2: another thing that I don't know if you are aware
Speaker 2: of or not, but like her and her sister somewhat
Speaker 2: teamed up to do some of the music and things
Speaker 2: like that. Right, So her sister would end up being
Speaker 2: on either set hanging out with someone like I think
Speaker 2: she for some reason in my head, I feel like
Speaker 2: she was on like when we did The Sweet Life
Speaker 2: of Zach and Cody or something. But she would be
Speaker 2: around the Channel doing certain things with the.
Speaker 1: Channel when I and that's Haley, right, it's Hailey Duff, Yeah, gotcha.
Speaker 2: Okay, and Hillary by the time, like I said, we
Speaker 2: filmed our movie in two thousand and two October or
Speaker 2: the movie came out in two thousand and three, so
Speaker 2: like by then, Hillary Duff was like a megastar al right,
Speaker 2: So she was already off, I swear I think at
Speaker 2: that point she was already booked a big arena tour
Speaker 2: and was doing like shows, And she was already off
Speaker 2: doing big, big things, not necessarily around the channel any longer, right, she.
Speaker 1: Was already breaking away. She was one of the first
Speaker 1: kind of big Disney Channel stars to break away, and yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: okay cool. Well, Duff was obviously the titular character who
Speaker 1: learns how to navigate personal and social issues common of
Speaker 1: our teenage years, which is rather vague and kind of
Speaker 1: the premise of every Disney show ever. But the big
Speaker 1: difference is we also get animated soliloquies of Lizzie to
Speaker 1: express the characters in her thoughts and emotions, little breaks
Speaker 1: of a more outgoing version of herself while she was
Speaker 1: more reserved and nervous in real life. Again, I think
Speaker 1: I knew that they were gonna do little animated stuff too,
Speaker 1: did you know going in that the animated stuff was
Speaker 1: all part.
Speaker 2: I wasn't sure. I couldn't. I don't think I actually
Speaker 2: watched the no because I remember when she came out,
Speaker 2: I was I recognized that outfit, but the you know,
Speaker 2: I recognized outfit. I remember the finale outfit, thinking that
Speaker 2: outfit was like a really cool Disney outfit and she
Speaker 2: was showing her stomach and I knew that was a
Speaker 2: big no no on the channel. So I didn't remember
Speaker 2: if her cartoon character part like because that was what
Speaker 2: her like her subconscience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's supposed to be like that. Yeah, it's supposed
Speaker 1: to because.
Speaker 2: I didn't know if that. I didn't remember if that
Speaker 2: was in the movie. But I definitely one of my favorite.
Speaker 2: It was my favorite part of the show. I thought
Speaker 2: that was my I loved when that cartoon would come
Speaker 2: out and do her like over the top, you know,
Speaker 2: so so embarrassed, so scared, you know. I loved that
Speaker 2: that was the comedy part of it.
Speaker 1: That I that's cool. The movie was released on May second,
Speaker 1: two thousand and three, in movie theaters. Yes, in movie theaters.
Speaker 1: That's obviously the biggest difference between this movie and other
Speaker 1: d coms. It was actually the first movie made from
Speaker 1: a Disney Channel series to go into theaters. Huh. Plus,
Speaker 1: it came in at number two at the box office
Speaker 1: sort's opening weekend with seventeen point three million dollars, trailing
Speaker 1: only X two, the X Men sequel. It eventually raked
Speaker 1: in fifty five point five million worldwide, which is amazing
Speaker 1: because the movie only cost thirteen million bucks. So whoa
Speaker 1: people say, only a lot in Hollywood, but thirteen million
Speaker 1: dollar movie not a huge budget movie. To rake in
Speaker 1: fifty five point five million, it's a big win for
Speaker 1: the channelblute and as if that wasn't enough, it was
Speaker 1: released on DVD and Wait for Kids vhs Look it
Speaker 1: Up in August of the same year and sold two
Speaker 1: point nine million copies, given the studio another fifty million
Speaker 1: dollars in revenue. Duff also won both a Kids Choice
Speaker 1: Award and eighteen Choice Award. Not that now all this
Speaker 1: sounds incredible, right A movie awards tons of money, yet
Speaker 1: there is a lot of story left to tell because
Speaker 1: only two seasons aired, so again a lot left to
Speaker 1: on the table there. Well, anyway, Disney thought the same
Speaker 1: thing because in twenty nineteen they decided to get the
Speaker 1: gang back together for new Lizzie MacGuire series with Hillary
Speaker 1: Duff and put a sequel film in motion, but infamously,
Speaker 1: the studio shelled the entire thing even after starting production,
Speaker 1: for reasons that are still kind of a mystery. We
Speaker 1: might have solved some of them, but it's kind of
Speaker 1: a mystery. Supposedly, Disney had created differences with Duff and
Speaker 1: the showrunner, who were looking to go in a more
Speaker 1: adult direction. In turn, Disney pulled the plug, a rare
Speaker 1: occurrence considering they were in the middle of making it,
Speaker 1: which is nuts. And all this decision did was make
Speaker 1: the cult audience even hungrier for more Lizzie McGuire content.
Speaker 1: We've heard several things. It was going to be on
Speaker 1: Hulu originally, so they're going to make it more adult
Speaker 1: than Disney. Plus was being built at the time. They
Speaker 1: were going to go more kid so you never know
Speaker 1: what's happening or want to see how the sausage is made.
Speaker 1: But unfortunately for the sausage makers, no, Lizzy McGuire.
Speaker 2: This is a no go.
Speaker 1: Had you seen this movie? I know you've seen the show,
Speaker 1: but did you see the movie? Were you one of
Speaker 1: the people who went and saw it in the theater.
Speaker 2: No, there, I definitely did not see it in the theater.
Speaker 2: I know I did not do that, but I feel like.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't do that.
Speaker 2: I know I didn't do that. I do remember seeing
Speaker 2: it somewhere, So I don't know if they ended up
Speaker 2: airing it ever on the channel, and that would have
Speaker 2: been a place.
Speaker 1: Or probably did eventually.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I know that I've seen I've seen it,
Speaker 2: but or if it was just seeing like commercials for it,
Speaker 2: I recognized it, but you know, I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 2: really remember. I think if I had seen it when
Speaker 2: I was in Italy at all these places that it
Speaker 2: looked like they were filming, I would have that would
Speaker 2: have sparked more of a memory. Yeah, that makes sense,
Speaker 2: and the fact that I didn't, I don't think I
Speaker 2: saw the whole thing I remember specifically, though. You know
Speaker 2: what I bet it is they probably showed her final
Speaker 2: performance on the channel as like a music videos.
Speaker 1: That's certainly possible.
Speaker 2: That is that I felt like I remember the front
Speaker 2: to back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew that. I don't know. I have no idea. Again,
Speaker 1: my guess I heard that there was a Lizzie McGuire
Speaker 1: movie because I don't know. I mean, you assume there
Speaker 1: is one, especially after they did like the Even Stevens movie.
Speaker 1: I guess I probably assume there was one, but no,
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about it.
Speaker 2: Oh. I feel like that even Stephen One was wasn't
Speaker 2: that after this one?
Speaker 1: Though I have no idea.
Speaker 2: I can't remember with a timeline of that either. I know.
Speaker 1: Anyway, it's synopsis time, people, so let's scoop yourself a
Speaker 1: bowl of gelato and get into it. Shy kid Lizzy
Speaker 1: McGuire travels to Rome on a school trip and is
Speaker 1: mistaken for an Italian pop star, leading to a worldwin
Speaker 1: adventure of music, fashion, and self discovery. So this is
Speaker 1: a little like accidental Handah Montana. This seemed like. That's
Speaker 1: why I was asking asking which one happened first, because
Speaker 1: I didn't understand if this came first or Hanna, because
Speaker 1: I was like, it's kind of the same premise, but
Speaker 1: this came first.
Speaker 2: So yes, way years before, okay before.
Speaker 1: Well, they obviously liked it because then they made a
Speaker 1: whole show basically around it. Right. The Lizzie McGuire movie
Speaker 1: was directed by Jim Fall, which is a new name
Speaker 1: to us, and this was his only dcom. He first
Speaker 1: got attention for his nineteen ninety nine movie Trick, a
Speaker 1: sundance standout about a gay relationship that unfolds over to
Speaker 1: two twenty four hours. Lizzie McGuire was his big follow up,
Speaker 1: and he'd later go on to direct two thousand and
Speaker 1: six's Wedding Wars with John Stamos and Eric Dane, as
Speaker 1: well as holiday themed movies like Kristen's Christmas Past and
Speaker 1: Holly's Holiday. Hey. The titles work, they work. The movie
Speaker 1: stars Hillary Duff, who is a true teen idol, best
Speaker 1: known for the role right here. Outside of Lizzie, she
Speaker 1: appeared in movies like the dcom Cadet Kelly, which We
Speaker 1: Want to Get to Agent Cody Banks, Cheaper by the Dozen,
Speaker 1: and a Cinderella Story. She most recently starred and produced
Speaker 1: the How I Met Your Mother sequel How I Met
Speaker 1: Your Father. She also has numerous albums that she's released.
Speaker 1: She's a New York Times best selling author and has
Speaker 1: her own clothing line. She has one point two million kids.
Speaker 1: She is absolutely just an empire. She doesn't have that
Speaker 1: many children, but she's got a lot of kids. Where
Speaker 1: do we rank Hillary Duff in the Disney Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: She's up there, Oh don't you think?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: She's first ballot, first ballot. I think, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: She's up there with Raven and Miley Cyrus.
Speaker 1: I think so too.
Speaker 2: Those those three.
Speaker 1: Though, I think Raven Simone, Hillary Duff and Miley Cyrus
Speaker 1: are kind of the trifecta of Disney perfection back in
Speaker 1: the early two thousands, Like those would be the three
Speaker 1: on Mount Rushmore. I think if you were going to
Speaker 1: do that, I mean, Hannah, Montana, Raven, and Lizzie McGuire
Speaker 1: are kind of like you don't have to know anything
Speaker 1: about the channel to still know those charactors and those names.
Speaker 1: And yeah, definitely. Adam Lamberg plays David Gordo Gordon, the
Speaker 1: same character he made famous on the TV show for
Speaker 1: its entire run. Haley Todd is Joe McGuire, Lizzie's mom,
Speaker 1: also from the show. Her actual mother, though, was Anne
Speaker 1: Morgan Gilbert, one of the stars of The Dick Van
Speaker 1: Dyke Show, and you can see her pregnant with Haley
Speaker 1: on the show. Halley would also appear on Murder, She
Speaker 1: wrote Growing Pains, and star Trek the Next Generation, by
Speaker 1: the way hot take on murder, she wrote, Angela Lansberry
Speaker 1: was doing all the murdering and just writing about it.
Speaker 1: And we've got Jake Thomas is Matt McGuire. That's Lizzie's
Speaker 1: little brother. A show favorite. Thomas began his career on TV,
Speaker 1: but quickly was cast in the criminally underrated Jennifer Lopez
Speaker 1: film The Cell. He later appeared in movies like AI,
Speaker 1: Artificial Intelligence and Christmas Vacation two and TV shows like
Speaker 1: Disney's Corey in the House Er and NCIS and We've
Speaker 1: got the legendary Robert Carodine returning as Sam maguire, Lizzie's dad.
Speaker 1: Carrodine is best known as the main character Lewis Skulnick
Speaker 1: in The Revenge of the Nerds. Movies great movies that ooh,
Speaker 1: do not hold up. But yeah, those are probably I
Speaker 1: don't like to judge things from now compared to when
Speaker 1: they were made, but problematic films.
Speaker 2: Really, I've got to go watch them.
Speaker 1: That very problematic stuff happening in those movies. Oh yeah, not.
Speaker 2: How long it's been since I've seriously seen them, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not good. But has been in a ton of things,
Speaker 1: including Escape from La and he is a kid in
Speaker 1: Martin Scorsese's Mean Streets, Django, Unchained, Nash Bridges, and most
Speaker 1: memorably for us, he is great in the d com
Speaker 1: Mom's Got a Date with a Vampire? Remember that he's
Speaker 1: the guy travel around trying to find the vampire. Time
Speaker 1: now clicked?
Speaker 2: I did not remember ye now? Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yes. He is also part of a very large Hollywood family.
Speaker 1: His father, John Carrodine was regarded as the best character
Speaker 1: actor of his dime, and his brother Keith Carrodine, half
Speaker 1: brothers David Carodine and Michael Bowen, and niece Martha Plimpton
Speaker 1: all have incredible careers and memorable faces. Very famous Hollywood family,
Speaker 1: and some fun little appearances in this movie. One is
Speaker 1: Haley Duff, Hillary's sister, best known as Summer in Napoleon Dynamite.
Speaker 1: She is the singing voice of Italian pop star Isabella Parigi,
Speaker 1: but never actually seen. Huh pretty great away, I.
Speaker 2: Was wondering, I'm so glad to see that they're here.
Speaker 2: The answer for that?
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go, and we've got one of my favorites.
Speaker 1: Alex Bornstein is miss Ungermeyer. Bornstein is best known now
Speaker 1: as the voice of Lois Griffin on Family Guy, but
Speaker 1: has become a premier name in comedy on shows like
Speaker 1: Mad TV, The Marvelous Missus, Masel, Shameless, and Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 1: She's also written almost fifty of the Family Guy episodes.
Speaker 1: And she is just flat out funny. She's one of
Speaker 1: those people that no matter what she does, she's fine.
Speaker 2: She kills it every time, every time.
Speaker 1: She's one of those people where you're just waiting to
Speaker 1: laugh every time she opens her mouth because she's.
Speaker 2: That funny, and you're waiting to see how far she
Speaker 2: takes her character because she always goes good, the just
Speaker 2: fullest lenked love so good.
Speaker 1: And finally, with an uncredited feature background role, we have
Speaker 1: Evangeline Lily. That's right well before her fame from lost
Speaker 1: in movies like The Hobbit and ant Man. She's an
Speaker 1: uncredited police officer in this movie. I didn't see her,
Speaker 1: Did you see her?
Speaker 2: I went back and looked again, and women police officers at.
Speaker 1: I did not see Evangeline Lily anywhere. And it's we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to find it. We're gonna have to find
Speaker 1: a screenshot somewhere because I can shot it and The
Speaker 1: Lizzie McGuire movie is ninety four minutes long, four over target,
Speaker 1: which debtie makes this movie say it with me who
Speaker 1: not too too long? Though? We were looking for the
Speaker 1: length of three Lizzie McGuire episodes in a row with commercials,
Speaker 1: and yet they didn't nail it. Sorry, people, my little
Speaker 1: animated characters coming out in the bottom, going too long
Speaker 1: and then running off the other side. And here comes
Speaker 1: a big connection between me, Hi, I'm Wilfredell and Lizzie McGuire.
Speaker 1: This movie was written by Susan Estelle Janssen and executroducer
Speaker 1: of the Lizzie TV show, but also a writer on
Speaker 1: shows like Home Improvement, Maybe This Time, and was one
Speaker 1: of our writers on Boy Meets World and even more connections.
Speaker 1: The other two writers credited on this film are John
Speaker 1: Strauss and Ed Dector, who were also Boy Meets World writers.
Speaker 1: So know all three of them?
Speaker 2: Well, were they also writers on the show?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't know if doctor and Strauss wrote on
Speaker 1: Lizzie McGuire show, but I know that Susan did. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: but Dector and Strauss they were Boy Mets World writers
Speaker 1: as well. But they are a team best known behind
Speaker 1: writing There's Something About Mary, as well as the Santa
Speaker 1: Claus two, but have also been showrunners on series like
Speaker 1: In Plain Sight, The Closer and Mozart's Jungle. Either together
Speaker 1: or separately. These are two guys who have done a
Speaker 1: lot in Hollywood. They're also very very nice guys. I
Speaker 1: just saw I think it would No. I saw Dector
Speaker 1: not that long ago, maybe a year ago. We have
Speaker 1: lunch together. Wow, all right, round up your Italian doppelgangers,
Speaker 1: because it's time to get in to the Lizzie McGuire movie.
Speaker 1: We open up with some intense music, almost Mission Impossible esque.
Speaker 1: We see switches being flipped, lights flashing in a camcorder
Speaker 1: with a tape that reads blackmail. A hand presses record
Speaker 1: and we are officially into the Lizzie McGuire movie. And
Speaker 1: that's not how I expected it to start. It's revealed
Speaker 1: to be the work of Lizzie's little brother Matt. Now
Speaker 1: keep in mind, I know nothing of these characters, so
Speaker 1: I am instantly like, what's going on. He's now hiding
Speaker 1: the camera in a remote control police car. He exclaims
Speaker 1: some say of an aisle. I say, genius. He drives
Speaker 1: a police car right to a sister's room who's getting
Speaker 1: ready for a graduation. A frustrated Lizzie slams her door,
Speaker 1: thinking at least now she's stolen his toy. But Matt's
Speaker 1: plan has actually come together. He will use this footage
Speaker 1: for eternity to hang over his sister's head. But also
Speaker 1: he's just filming his sister in her bedroom, like when
Speaker 1: she's getting dressed and all that. Kind of it's just
Speaker 1: a major backfire, I mean, total invasion of privacy. I
Speaker 1: did not know this guy yet at all, and I
Speaker 1: was like, ew so, yes, but no, but if.
Speaker 2: You know the show, it's like it's just another one
Speaker 2: of his.
Speaker 1: Just like things that he's nigans.
Speaker 2: Yes, he just sits and drives her crazy as she's
Speaker 2: going through all her like awkward stages. After awkward stages,
Speaker 2: he's there to just make it that much worse. This
Speaker 2: is his character through and through.
Speaker 1: Okay, good, so then he's just did most of the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like yeah, he just kind of he's just that,
Speaker 2: you know, he's that Disney ron zibling who's younger and
Speaker 2: just makes your life hell, gotcha?
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough. He's kind of like Shia's character a
Speaker 1: little bit in even Stevens.
Speaker 2: Kind of yeah, yeah, well, I mean I don't know
Speaker 2: a gadgety and and yes, but he didn't. I don't
Speaker 2: feel like he Maybe I'm thinking of it wrong. But
Speaker 2: with the brother's sibling relationship, he just drove her crazy,
Speaker 2: drove her crazy because she was so studious and like
Speaker 2: couldn't understand live his life like this versus like him
Speaker 2: actually trying to like make her life. Hell, I don't
Speaker 2: remember it being as much as this kid. Jake's character
Speaker 2: was just like trying to make the most annoying.
Speaker 1: Okay, got it, Love that, but still We're now into
Speaker 1: the opening credits, set to a Hillary Duff cover of
Speaker 1: the Tide is High by the Paragons. Lizzie's getting ready,
Speaker 1: trying on a ton of different outfits, and this is
Speaker 1: our first clips at animated Lizzie. It's a little more brash,
Speaker 1: tiny version of her, kind of able to do the
Speaker 1: things the real life Lizzie can't say things that she can't,
Speaker 1: you know, that kind of stuff. But then Matt's remote
Speaker 1: control car continues to secretly film her, and its possible
Speaker 1: Oscar winning clip is her falling into her bathtub while dancing.
Speaker 1: She seems to fall a lot. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: Is that a thing on the show too? She's very clumsy? Okay,
Speaker 1: again I didn't. I didn't know any of this stuff.
Speaker 1: We then cut to Lizzie's junior high graduation. Junior high.
Speaker 1: So that's when I was like, oh, it's got to
Speaker 1: kick it up because Hillary was what sixteen or seventeen
Speaker 1: in the movie, and she's supposed to be in the
Speaker 1: eighth grade. She's graduating eighth grade. She hasn't even started
Speaker 1: high school yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt like she didn't look I felt like
Speaker 2: they that she looked young.
Speaker 1: You thought she looked twelve.
Speaker 2: That wouldn't be twelve years it would I graduate.
Speaker 1: No, I was thirteen when I became a freshman in
Speaker 1: high school. I was twelve years old when I finished
Speaker 1: the eighth grade.
Speaker 2: No, you weren't, Yes, I was.
Speaker 1: I was. I turned thirteen the summer before I went.
Speaker 2: To high right now, No, No, I went to high
Speaker 2: school in nineteen I went to I went.
Speaker 1: I was born in nineteen seventy six, and I graduated
Speaker 1: high school in ninety four, which means I started when
Speaker 1: I was. I started in eighty nine, ninety I just
Speaker 1: August of eighty nine ninety I turned thirteen. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: just it seemed and a couple of people on that
Speaker 1: trip were not did not look like eighth graders.
Speaker 2: Yes, then that's I think what was hard to and
Speaker 2: what makes me think when it think about the sixty
Speaker 2: five episodes type situation is the age that the kids are.
Speaker 2: They some mature so fast, right, No, it's so fast, right,
Speaker 2: So like that's hard if you're going to keep those
Speaker 2: characters in line, trying to keep them aging at the
Speaker 2: same rate.
Speaker 1: It's I get it, it's tough. And she definitely played younger,
Speaker 1: but I was it was like, oh, they're in the
Speaker 1: eighth grade. It was was a lot. It's not It
Speaker 1: wasn't too bad.
Speaker 2: But it was because this is what I will get
Speaker 2: into at later. But we haven't done a movie that
Speaker 2: was supposed to be this young in a long time.
Speaker 2: Most of our movies all the characters are right in
Speaker 2: that like sophomore year of high school. So it was
Speaker 2: a little bit of a switch to to think about,
Speaker 2: and it's part of what made me go.
Speaker 1: It makes sense to It makes sense so a little
Speaker 1: bit because back in the day, in the early two thousands,
Speaker 1: I think they were skewing young. The whole channel was
Speaker 1: their demo.
Speaker 2: Their demo was like ten to eleven.
Speaker 1: Right where now you go into Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: totally So anyway, we now see Lizzie is in her
Speaker 1: cap and gown, joined by her family mom, dad, and Matt,
Speaker 1: who's still with the camera. Her mom can't believe Lizzie's
Speaker 1: graduating and going to Rome for two weeks by yourself.
Speaker 1: And again, eighth grade, too young to be going to
Speaker 1: a different country by yourself for yeah, two weeks, it
Speaker 1: seemed with one chaperone, that seemed like a little it would.
Speaker 2: Have I mean, it would make me really nervous to
Speaker 2: even send my kid at that age with like another
Speaker 2: with her best friend's family, Like you're across the sea, hello,
Speaker 2: the ocean, Yeah, for two weeks, that would be so
Speaker 2: so scary. So in a group with like they're in
Speaker 2: hotel rooms. How do you know they stay in those
Speaker 2: hotel rooms during the night. I was like already going,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, nope, never sorry, Monroe, You'll be yeah,
Speaker 2: you'll not do any of this.
Speaker 1: You can watch the Lizzie Maguire Show from the safety
Speaker 1: of your bedroom, but you ain't going to Rome. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Her dad is obviously very emotional and serious about this
Speaker 1: big day. Her cartoon appears, also dressed in a cap
Speaker 1: and gown and annoyed that her dad will probably quote
Speaker 1: a dead guy. Then, of course he does, he quotes Shakespeare.
Speaker 1: Real izz He finds her best guy friend Gordo and
Speaker 1: asks how her cap and gown looks. He suggests she
Speaker 1: talked to her best girlfriend Miranda about this stuff, but
Speaker 1: Miranda's in Mexico City or there seemed to be something
Speaker 1: going on, because you're the one who told me that
Speaker 1: she was a massive part of the series, right, and
Speaker 1: then she just wasn't in the show. Wasn't the movie instantly?
Speaker 2: Maybe because again this movie, this show was out like
Speaker 2: twenty years ago, So I was like, wait what, I
Speaker 2: don't remember what what happened, but something had to have
Speaker 2: gone down for her to not actually be in this
Speaker 2: last movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, something or something. Uh, something's up. Yeah, but anyway,
Speaker 1: then a very annoying girl, Kate, walks up and dis
Speaker 1: is Lizzie because she also wore the same outfit which
Speaker 1: is underneath her cap and gown to the spring dance.
Speaker 1: Kate yells out, Lizzabe guire, you are an outfit repeater.
Speaker 1: The entire school looks at her and what a this?
Speaker 1: Kate is instantly right off the bat. Lizzie reminds Gordo
Speaker 1: that Kate used to be her best friend, but Gordo
Speaker 1: says that was before she was popular. They are interrupted
Speaker 1: by a teacher, mister Escobar. Was he a regular on
Speaker 1: the show? Mister Escobar, he seemed like he would have been.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember him that much, okay.
Speaker 1: Who tells Lizzie that Margaret Chan either has ebola or
Speaker 1: a very bad cold, so Lizzie will need to fill
Speaker 1: in for the class president's speech. She's the school treasurer,
Speaker 1: so she can't get out of it. And I was like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, that's not fair to her. No, I
Speaker 1: didn't prepare a speech. I mean, come on. She's terrified, obviously,
Speaker 1: and cartoon Lizzie suggests she run, but before you know it,
Speaker 1: the ceremony has begun and Lizzie's being called up to
Speaker 1: the mic. Even her parents are shocked as she struggles
Speaker 1: and shrieks at the podium with the speaker feedback. There's
Speaker 1: bright lights, there's everything. It's certainly not going well, and
Speaker 1: of course, her brother's filming it all with a big
Speaker 1: smile on his face. She eventually excuses herself for some water,
Speaker 1: and on her way out, she stumbles on some balloons
Speaker 1: and pulls down the entire auditorium backdrop right out of
Speaker 1: the graduates. Lizzie McGuire has ruined graduation and fallen yet again.
Speaker 1: We're four minutes in the movie. She's falling again. Now
Speaker 1: at the airport with their family and Gordo, Lizzie knows
Speaker 1: she has to leave the country. Her mom tells her
Speaker 1: it wasn't that bad, but Lizzie says the footage was
Speaker 1: on Good Morning America. Matt Grinn's revealing he probably sent
Speaker 1: it to them. The mcguires are startled by a loud
Speaker 1: whistle and speeding airport cart. It's Miss Angermeyer, Lizzie's upcoming
Speaker 1: high school principle. She seems to be very stern, even mean.
Speaker 1: Gordo says, if you stay on her good side, you'll
Speaker 1: end up at an Ivy League school, but if you're
Speaker 1: on her bad side, you'll end up working for the
Speaker 1: janitor that mops up puke. Okay, so the high school
Speaker 1: principle appears to be there because they have to go
Speaker 1: together for a trip to Rome for incoming students, including
Speaker 1: Lizzie and Gordo, but Ungermeer says that most of their
Speaker 1: classmates instead chose to take a thirty six hour bus
Speaker 1: ride to the Water Safari, which is a theme park.
Speaker 1: And it's all just kind of weird. I don't get it.
Speaker 1: So they're the new principle that they haven't met yet
Speaker 1: at the high school they haven't started yet is taking
Speaker 1: a select group of kids to Rome, but other kids
Speaker 1: are going to a water park. Yeah, I didn't get it.
Speaker 2: I'm just assuming this is like a summer trip that.
Speaker 2: I mean, God, this would have to be like a
Speaker 2: like a crazy private school to be doing.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, but I just don't get why these two week.
Speaker 2: Rome State like vacation type thing. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess it would be like you know, they have
Speaker 2: to have in order to go through the district. I
Speaker 2: know how it is when it's district related here in California.
Speaker 2: In order for me to take my girls to Florida,
Speaker 2: I have to have somebody who's a full time teacher
Speaker 2: staff member on the trip with us. Okay, I'm only
Speaker 2: like part time, So it would I mean for it
Speaker 2: to be the principal is kind of crazy, but like
Speaker 2: it could be they're not in yet, but they would
Speaker 2: still be going. Like we're taking I'm taking my freshman
Speaker 2: girls that are on my team down to Palm Springs
Speaker 2: for our camp. So we're still going. Like they're still there.
Speaker 2: They've made the team, so they're and they're going and registered.
Speaker 1: But actually, Cholie, freshman, you're not taking eighth graders that
Speaker 1: haven't joined the school yet, are you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're eighth you are graduating this next coming coach.
Speaker 1: Oh, so they're not freshman becoming sophomore, they're the eighth right, Well,
Speaker 1: there you.
Speaker 2: Go, Yeah, content do that, But you do you have
Speaker 2: to have like a someone at the school like I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know, a walk on coach type thing versus like
Speaker 2: I have to have them who's like a full time
Speaker 2: staff faculty member. And the district.
Speaker 1: You just proved the deal. You just proved it. So
Speaker 1: there you go. Unger Meyer are going to be taking
Speaker 1: these kids to thirty one Roman Landmarks in two weeks
Speaker 1: and they're going to return with culture if it kills her.
Speaker 1: And Alex Bornstein is once again just so fun and great.
Speaker 1: She's amazing now aboording Lizzie says goodbye to her family
Speaker 1: near the gate, and her mom embraces her for a
Speaker 1: little too long. On her way to board, she looks
Speaker 1: back one last time and her mom and they're both crying.
Speaker 1: Lizzie runs back and gives her one final hug. It's
Speaker 1: a very nice little moment. Now alone with Gordo, another classmate,
Speaker 1: Ethan grabs them sarcastically and is excited about going to
Speaker 1: a place where they invented spaghetti. Okay, pizza was actually
Speaker 1: invented in Naples, though near Rome. It's not Rome, I
Speaker 1: get it, and it's spaghetti. I think most pasta was
Speaker 1: invented in Asia, but it's not. It's funny. Lizzie's just
Speaker 1: happy that bully Kate and her pals won't be on
Speaker 1: the plane. They went to water Safar instead. But nope,
Speaker 1: she was wrong perfectly time Kate appears already making fun
Speaker 1: of Lizzie on her way to the aircraft. Now in
Speaker 1: the air, we get a flight montage of Lizzie and
Speaker 1: Gordo having fun, which it's like even as they're talking,
Speaker 1: the Ungermeer makes them be quiet. I'm like, they have
Speaker 1: to have a quiet plane ride to Rome. That's the worst.
Speaker 1: Lizzie ends up sleeping on Gordo's shoulder and he seems
Speaker 1: very happy about it. It's very sweet. I've never watched
Speaker 1: the show, as you know, so I should be rooting
Speaker 1: for them as a couple. Am I rooting for them
Speaker 1: as a couple? Is that what we want? Yeah? Has
Speaker 1: it been broached before? Is this kind of like an
Speaker 1: ongoing thing or no?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like I always just liked
Speaker 2: them together, because again, they were both like really good
Speaker 2: friends to each like they were good friends to each other.
Speaker 1: And but was this just kind of thrown Was the
Speaker 1: romantic aspect just thrown in for the movie and not
Speaker 1: at all in the television show? We did that on
Speaker 1: Kim Possible To It.
Speaker 2: Teased tiny, a tiny bit, but it wasn't a big
Speaker 2: storyline yet. In my recollection of.
Speaker 1: This show, gotcha okay? Fair enough? Fair enough? The montage
Speaker 1: continues as the plane touches down in Rome the class
Speaker 1: boards of bus and now we hear the Italian song
Speaker 1: in an Evening in Roma by Dean Martin. We see
Speaker 1: the Colisseum, the Roman Forum and Lizzie laughing so much
Speaker 1: it's really disturbing. We don't know what. She's laughing over
Speaker 1: and over. It's like she has that weird Joaquin Phoenix
Speaker 1: Joker disease where she's got to hand out the card
Speaker 1: going like I'm sorry, I have something. I'm laughing like
Speaker 1: a creep because it was a little weird. They eventually
Speaker 1: arrive at their hotel. Ungermeyer warns them it won't be
Speaker 1: easy to pull anything on her, especially with the help
Speaker 1: of the hotel's general manager, a former commander in the
Speaker 1: Italian Navy, Giorgio. But this goofy pushover doesn't look like
Speaker 1: he spent one day in comment and one day in
Speaker 1: combat and won't be any help when it comes to
Speaker 1: the discipline. He was actually very funny. Ungermeyer lifts off
Speaker 1: the room assignments. Gordo will be with Ethan and Lizzie
Speaker 1: will be with and then the cartoon. Lizzie returns Ben
Speaker 1: a minute. She yells out that she will not, under
Speaker 1: any circumstances be rooming with and then we cut to
Speaker 1: the room and yes, of course she's rooming with that Kate.
Speaker 1: Kate's already pushing Lizzie around to dis may have animated Lizzie.
Speaker 1: Gordo stops by and takes Lizzie to see an amazing
Speaker 1: view from the roof. It helps Lizzie realize she's not
Speaker 1: gonna let Kate Sanders get her down. She makes Gordo
Speaker 1: promise that they will find adventures together. The next day,
Speaker 1: the classes at the Trevy Fountain and Ungermeyer says that
Speaker 1: people travel from all over the world to toss a
Speaker 1: coin in the fountain and make a wish, but she
Speaker 1: thinks those people are suckers. But Lizzie doesn't. She stays
Speaker 1: behind with Gordo and throws a coin in the creating
Speaker 1: a very dramatic effect that can only mean one thing
Speaker 1: in a d com The dream is gonna come true,
Speaker 1: And immediately after, an attractive Italian boy spots in the crowd.
Speaker 1: He is shocked Isabella animated Lizzie, who is rafting in
Speaker 1: the fountain stealing coins, says the wish was actually for
Speaker 1: smooth sailing in high school. But this will work. Lizzy
Speaker 1: explains she's not Isabella, but he insists she looks just
Speaker 1: like a friend of his. Then a bodyguard pulls this
Speaker 1: mystery stud Paolo Valasari away. It's time for a photo shoot,
Speaker 1: and instantly it was like, oh, he's bad. I knew it,
Speaker 1: knew right away. I didn't trust this guy as far
Speaker 1: as I could throw him into Trevy Fountain. I swear
Speaker 1: to God. The second he came on screen and he
Speaker 1: had the bodyguard and everything, I was like, bad news.
Speaker 1: This guy is bad new.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is cool.
Speaker 1: No, to the point where at one point during the movie,
Speaker 1: I'm like, twenty minutes in, I literally texted producer tar
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this guy's bad. I don't trust this
Speaker 1: guy at all. Yeah, telling you didn't trust this guy
Speaker 1: even a little bit. Now in the streets of Rome,
Speaker 1: Ungermeyer ushers her students into a cafe for gelato, but
Speaker 1: Polo and a security guard, Saragay, are still trailing Lizzy.
Speaker 1: He can't give this up. She introduces herself as Lizzie Maguire,
Speaker 1: but Polo still can't get over how much she looks
Speaker 1: like his pal Isabella, and neither can some of the
Speaker 1: nearby cafe patrons. They crowd Lizzy up for They crowded
Speaker 1: Lizzy up for photos with Isabella and Pallo, and that's
Speaker 1: when she spots a billboard. It's for Pollo and Isabella,
Speaker 1: who are a singing duo. And Lizzie does indeed look
Speaker 1: a lot like Isabella because it's it's Hillary Duff in
Speaker 1: a wig, and that's I was like, that's when I
Speaker 1: was starting to going, Wait a minute, secret singer, same girl.
Speaker 1: Is this pre or post Tanna Montana? I didn't know
Speaker 1: this was going. I also texted a producer to ask,
Speaker 1: is Hillary Duff is Lizzie McGuire a singer or someone
Speaker 1: who sings part of the Lizzie McGuire show, like she
Speaker 1: was a singer, and apparently it had nothing to do
Speaker 1: with that, which again I didn't know.
Speaker 2: I think by this time, Hillary on her own, I'm
Speaker 2: sure she was with Hollywood Records, was starting to put
Speaker 2: out music, right, Okay, she's already doing that, And so
Speaker 2: then now Disney locks in kind of for the first
Speaker 2: time with their talent. Oh, there's more to this than us,
Speaker 2: just like keeping her dress as an actress, let's start pushing,
Speaker 2: let's use it her franchise.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, so well that makes sense. I was like,
Speaker 1: did they just throw this in? But anyway, Polo wants
Speaker 1: to see Lizzie again tomorrow. He's excited, and so is
Speaker 1: animated Lizzie. Gordo says, he'll cover for her with Ungermeyer,
Speaker 1: but Lizzie tells Polo she can't, she's with her school.
Speaker 1: Polo is now late to his photo shoot, but he
Speaker 1: says if she changes her mind, he will be at
Speaker 1: Trevy Fountain again at nine am tomorrow. He romantically speaks
Speaker 1: Italian to her, kisses her hand, and is caught in
Speaker 1: the act by paparazzi. Oh that night at the hotel,
Speaker 1: Lizzie admits to Gordo that she digs Pollo and Isabella's
Speaker 1: pop music. Keep this in mind, this will come back.
Speaker 1: She shares her headphones with him to get a listen,
Speaker 1: and he comments on her sweet scent. He quickly gets
Speaker 1: embarrassed and we for sure know thou that he likes her.
Speaker 1: Lizzie says she's still contemplating meeting up with Pollo, but
Speaker 1: she never really sneaks away. It's not her thing, but
Speaker 1: Gorda reminds her she's looking for adventure here, but Lizzie
Speaker 1: meant with him. He says they'll go on their adventures,
Speaker 1: but the first one is hers. Then he slightly asks
Speaker 1: if she's feeling okay, good friend, Hey, I've got a
Speaker 1: big crush on you, but I'm gonna be your wingman.
Speaker 1: That's the way it's gonna wong. And he was a
Speaker 1: good guy. We cut to the morning. Lizzie is laying
Speaker 1: in bed with miss Ungermeyer and an Italian doctor hovering
Speaker 1: over her. She doesn't have a fever, but the doctor
Speaker 1: asks why would a beautiful young girl on her first
Speaker 1: trip to Rome want to lie in bed all day?
Speaker 1: She's obviously ill. Ungermeyer wonders if it has anything to
Speaker 1: do with embarrassing herself on graduation, with the doctor admits
Speaker 1: he saw on CNN Animated Lizzie has shocked CNN, and
Speaker 1: then she's squashed quickly by a little TV set. The
Speaker 1: doctor recommends a day in bed and two apricots, not
Speaker 1: for digestion or anything, just because they're in season, and
Speaker 1: just like that, Ungermeyer leaves her to be, and the
Speaker 1: two of them together we're a very funny scene anywhere.
Speaker 1: As soon as they're gone, Lizzie jumps up. She was
Speaker 1: fully clothed and ready to get to Trivia Fountain asap,
Speaker 1: and once she arrives, she finds Pallo in a security
Speaker 1: and he's still such a dream boat. Pallow not the
Speaker 1: bodyguard animated Lizzie appears to be in love and melts
Speaker 1: in two hearts. Polo immediately takes her on his moped
Speaker 1: he rented. It's a Vespa. But man, if you want
Speaker 1: to so very quick side story, my friend and I
Speaker 1: went to Rome. I was shooting Boy Mets World at
Speaker 1: the time. It was in between season one and season two,
Speaker 1: and we went to Rome and the first day, like
Speaker 1: the second day we got there, we rented mopeds, we
Speaker 1: rented vespas. It was a Sunday and we cruised all around.
Speaker 1: It was the coolest thing in the world. Monday, we
Speaker 1: met these two girls from the United States and we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: let's hang out and we'll get Vespas again. The four
Speaker 1: of us rented him and then it was like riding
Speaker 1: through the streets of New York City at rush hour.
Speaker 1: So because it was Sunday, we were like zipping around.
Speaker 1: This is the best. On Monday, We're like, it was
Speaker 1: such a different experience, let me tell you. But anyway,
Speaker 1: he's running, he's in his on his moped with her.
Speaker 1: They put on helmets and they take off speaking through
Speaker 1: the beautiful city to another cover song, the Italian standard
Speaker 1: Vola now sung by Vitamin c did I read that right?
Speaker 1: Vitamin C? Vitamin actually sung a song that is her name?
Speaker 1: Oh to her? Okay, gotcha? Is Vitamin C still a singer?
Speaker 2: I'm sure she is singing somebody?
Speaker 1: I mean, is this somebody I should know? Is this
Speaker 1: somebody in the in She.
Speaker 2: Had one song that she had was like graduation or something.
Speaker 1: Just a Lisa just says she had that graduation song. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was in the original Hairspray movie. Okay, I apologize,
Speaker 1: I apologize, miss C. I did not know that. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna call you.
Speaker 2: We had bright orange hair with like like big streaks
Speaker 2: in it too.
Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha cool? Learn something new. Every day we see
Speaker 1: animated Lizzie holding onto the bike's bumper taking pictures, and
Speaker 1: again Lizzie is constantly laughing like an insane person. Something's
Speaker 1: wrong with her. Back home, Matt is surfing the web
Speaker 1: researching Rome. He's joined by his friend Melina. He says
Speaker 1: he doesn't know what catastrophe Lizzie will find there, but
Speaker 1: she'll find one somehow. Molina insults Matt for having that
Speaker 1: graduation moment on film and just giving it out for free.
Speaker 1: He has nothing a show for it, she seems like
Speaker 1: a real piece of work, pretending to be a sweet
Speaker 1: little angel and miss Maguire but also reminding Matt you
Speaker 1: should always take cash up front when blackmailing. And she
Speaker 1: seemed like she's going to be a serial killer. She
Speaker 1: was funny, but I mean, my god, they really bully
Speaker 1: Holy you said that's part of the show, right, She's
Speaker 1: in the show as well.
Speaker 2: They were like in it together. She had so many
Speaker 2: of the like, you know, helping him out, figuring out
Speaker 2: how to do these certain things. But she went I
Speaker 2: would say this take on her character was a step
Speaker 2: up from what I remember in the show. I was like, whoa,
Speaker 2: this girl is a grassive with a capital A damn.
Speaker 1: And this is the style of the show too, right,
Speaker 1: Meaning it's not multiicam, it's not in front of an
Speaker 1: eye insie Canna Montana. This is it's single cam like
Speaker 1: this Gotcha, which makes sense because the animation and all
Speaker 1: that good kind of stuff, right. I didn't know if
Speaker 1: they put that in after in front of a live
Speaker 1: studio on its but no, okay, gotcha. Back in Rome, now,
Speaker 1: Polo and Lizzie hit a dead end on their moped.
Speaker 1: They're blocked. It's technically a Vespa, which sounds cooler. They're
Speaker 1: blocked by cars, so security Serge finally catches up in
Speaker 1: his car. Lizzie thinks Serge is just a friend, but
Speaker 1: Polo explains it's his security guard, which seemed obvious to
Speaker 1: everybody but everyone else And then what everybody else got it?
Speaker 1: Maybe there are a few things wrong with this film.
Speaker 1: And then while stuck in the street, she spots her
Speaker 1: school tour bus and missus Ungermyer a few cars back.
Speaker 1: She tells Paula to speed off, and Gordo, from inside
Speaker 1: the bus, also sees the predicament. He quickly asked the
Speaker 1: principal some questions about their itinerary to divert her attention,
Speaker 1: but she knows he's up to something, but he's still
Speaker 1: able to distract her long enough for the traffic jam
Speaker 1: to clear up and save Lizzie. This guy is just
Speaker 1: the best friend ever.
Speaker 2: I know, I like fell in love with him.
Speaker 1: How could you not? He was awesome? He was awesome.
Speaker 1: We are now in a safer situation. Lizzie Apolo a
Speaker 1: walk through a street market. Lizzie wants to know if
Speaker 1: he still loves Isabella. Wait, what did I miss? The storyline?
Speaker 1: Here he was dating a singing singing partner. We weren't
Speaker 1: told that, right, how would Lizzie know? So just all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it was like, wait, are you still
Speaker 1: with It? Seemed like we skipped a scene. I didn't
Speaker 1: get what was going on. Also, why is he getting
Speaker 1: mobbed everywhere he goes right away? But then can stand
Speaker 1: at the trivia fountain with the girl who looks exactly
Speaker 1: like her with no problems whatsoever?
Speaker 2: Consistent how he was being like.
Speaker 1: Not famous and yeah, yeah weird.
Speaker 2: It's true. And then also I feel like, to me
Speaker 2: it was weird that like it was hard for me
Speaker 2: at this point. And I don't know if I had
Speaker 2: watched it like a while ago, but like, there aren't
Speaker 2: very many singing duos that are like a man like
Speaker 2: a girl and a guy, right Sonny and Cher Yeah
Speaker 2: in the seventies.
Speaker 1: Basically the only one I can think of Captain and
Speaker 1: tinil Okay.
Speaker 2: Also, yeah, like like this was it was a weird
Speaker 2: thing to put like to me, I just feel like
Speaker 2: it should have been like they were a couple that
Speaker 2: also did a few songs together, not necessarily like a
Speaker 2: singing duo.
Speaker 1: So he says, yes, he still loves his singing partner,
Speaker 1: but as a sister, which is why he wants to
Speaker 1: hook up with her twin. He didn't say that, but
Speaker 1: I just did because that's exactly what he's talking about.
Speaker 1: Paulo says it's complicated, which is exactly what Derinda was
Speaker 1: saying when she was in Europe, So maybe just Europe
Speaker 1: is just complicated.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: He says. They're the biggest pop duo in the country,
Speaker 1: but he wants to make more serious music. When he
Speaker 1: told this to Isabella, she said no and ran off,
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, no, no, no, no, that's
Speaker 1: not what happened to all. Liarh whatever the Italian word
Speaker 1: for liar is And when he saw Lizzie he had
Speaker 1: a crazy idea. What if at the upcoming International Music
Speaker 1: Video Awards, where they're supposed to present an award as
Speaker 1: a duo, Lizzie steps in. Going solo isn't a huge
Speaker 1: problem for Polo, he writes, the music in Isabella actually
Speaker 1: lip syncs. If they don't make it to the award show,
Speaker 1: he could be sued. Lizzie's shocked by the idea and
Speaker 1: can't imagine presenting in front of an audience she's not
Speaker 1: good in front of crowds. Polo tells her she's magnifico,
Speaker 1: and then animated Lizzie emerges from a pilot spaghetti. She
Speaker 1: doesn't know Italian, but she knows what that means. Eventually,
Speaker 1: human Lizzy agrees if it'll help Pollo and Isabella, she
Speaker 1: can do it. And this is where I was like,
Speaker 1: would huh, yeah what? I don't understand it.
Speaker 2: I'm starting to like get disinterested now because I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't get it. Like, wait, he finds her doppelganger
Speaker 1: randomly on the street.
Speaker 2: What good is it gonna do? I guess he's not
Speaker 2: gonna get sued, but like, what good is it going
Speaker 2: to do for him for her to be there and
Speaker 2: not him just take it on himself.
Speaker 1: I just didn't understand the story, Like, no, I need
Speaker 1: you to fill in and lip sync for her anyway,
Speaker 1: because you look just like her? Would she not fire? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm glad I wasn't the only one confused. And you
Speaker 1: watched the show. I mean, you knew these characters and
Speaker 1: all this stuff, so no, no, what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: even even knowing everything going in, you still were confused
Speaker 1: by all this stuff exactly.
Speaker 2: So watching the movie now twenty years later, right now,
Speaker 2: watching this movie, knowing what I did about the show
Speaker 2: when I watched the show, we have introduced music, which
Speaker 2: I get because I remember where she was in her career,
Speaker 2: but like, music had nothing to do with Lizzie maguire.
Speaker 2: So that's what like to what you were talking about
Speaker 2: just a few minutes ago. So like all this stuff
Speaker 2: was just kind of like now for me, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's like feeling forced to make it. Yes, I agree, yes,
Speaker 2: And I was just like, no, oh.
Speaker 1: No, no, okay, I agree with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm glad, I'm not.
Speaker 2: It just felt it felt like again, I absolutely remember
Speaker 2: where Hillary Duff was in her career, and I feel
Speaker 2: like it was a part of like I don't want
Speaker 2: it could be maybe she wouldn't have wanted to do
Speaker 2: the movie if she wasn't going to get a chance
Speaker 2: to do what she was moving on to do with
Speaker 2: her next steps in her career, which was take on
Speaker 2: this solo act in the music industry, So maybe that
Speaker 2: was part of it. But it definitely taking a step
Speaker 2: back and not being in that world started to feel
Speaker 2: very forced.
Speaker 1: Now, I agree with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: And I felt sad because I was like, oh, I know,
Speaker 2: Michaela's probably a giant fan of this.
Speaker 1: I know. I think it's well.
Speaker 2: Just things, and I hate letting them down.
Speaker 1: I know, well it's the film that let them down.
Speaker 1: In all fairness, Lizzie sneeks back into her hotel and
Speaker 1: runs directly into Gordo to tell him about her new adventure.
Speaker 1: He can't believe she's going to do this, but she
Speaker 1: seems so smitten with Paulo, who is seventeen and successful
Speaker 1: and so kind. All right, but Gordo. So she's gonna
Speaker 1: give an award at an in. But Gordo's concerned. She
Speaker 1: rightfully so. She's only known him for a day, fair,
Speaker 1: she insists it feels like she's known him her whole life,
Speaker 1: or even a week. She thanks Gordo for covering for
Speaker 1: her friends and friend zones I'm hardcore, right in front
Speaker 1: of his roommate, Ethan. Ethan feels bad for him. He
Speaker 1: can tell he likes his best friend and is feeling
Speaker 1: the effects of the sting aka jealousy. Gordo denies liking
Speaker 1: Lizzie is more than a friend, but no, what he's
Speaker 1: buying it. Back at home, Matt sees a very two
Speaker 1: thousands of Yahoo Musica online story about Paolo with Isabella
Speaker 1: at the Gelato store. But Matt immediately notices his girl
Speaker 1: looks exactly like his sister, because it's his sister, and
Speaker 1: that devilish Molina has returned. She confirms his hunch by
Speaker 1: translating the article. Matt wants to show his mom and
Speaker 1: bust Lizzie, but Molina has a plan. She thinks they
Speaker 1: should go to the Italian tabloids with all of Matt's
Speaker 1: blackmail tapes and sell them for cash. Because if anybody
Speaker 1: is gonna know how to get in touch with Italian tabloids,
Speaker 1: it's these two kids in suburban America.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, this girl is like a full blown gangster.
Speaker 1: Now it's not okay. I think she's I think it's
Speaker 1: more than that. I think at this point she's building
Speaker 1: a device to steal the sun. I think it's bigger
Speaker 1: than that. I have a psychopath exactly between her and
Speaker 1: Lizzie's constant giggling. We've got some interesting psychotics of this movie.
Speaker 1: Back in her hotel room, Lindsay is once again faking sick.
Speaker 1: With miss Ungermeier. The principle has brought her a book,
Speaker 1: The Rise and Decline of the Roman Empire. I actually
Speaker 1: have it on that shelf right back there, or a
Speaker 1: version of it. It's a great book, and they can
Speaker 1: since Lizzie can't join them on the tour. Today Animated
Speaker 1: Lizzie is again squashed, this time by the book, but
Speaker 1: soon after Lizzie is back on that same vespa with
Speaker 1: Paolo and again laughing for absolutely no reason she is
Speaker 1: a possible serial killer. We get another sightseeing montage, now
Speaker 1: to the song why Not by Hillary Duff, and eventually
Speaker 1: landing in an expensive shopping district. Lizzie needs a dress
Speaker 1: for the awards. She's thrown in with the store's stylists,
Speaker 1: who are surprised by Isabella's blonde and Lizzy blames the
Speaker 1: sun in a perfect American accent. Why is nobody pointing
Speaker 1: this out? She doesn't even try to fake having an
Speaker 1: Italian accent in any way, shape.
Speaker 2: Or form, because well we know why.
Speaker 1: Later, right, But you're telling me Isabella sounds like Lizzie
Speaker 1: McGuire from the United States, and nobody mentions this even
Speaker 1: when he says she's going to speak in the English, Okay,
Speaker 1: but you don't then turn around like I don't really
Speaker 1: like this trap. I mean it's like, oh my god, yeah.
Speaker 2: No, there's still it would still be English with an
Speaker 2: Italian accent.
Speaker 1: Of course, there's.
Speaker 2: Wasn't an option for them to actually it didn't otherwise
Speaker 2: they would have done it.
Speaker 1: I am yeah, they tried it later anyway. Meanwhile, Angermeyer
Speaker 1: in the class are at the forum. When Gordo sees
Speaker 1: a tabloid about Isabella's new hair color, he knows this
Speaker 1: is Lizzie and trades some girls the magazine for an
Speaker 1: introduction to Ethan. Now, this is when I noticed that
Speaker 1: Gordo looks an awful lot like Luca from the Pixar
Speaker 1: movie Luca. Did you notice this? He does?
Speaker 2: But what about this scene made you think of Luca?
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just he looks like Luca. He's
Speaker 1: a cute kid, He's the nicest kid in the world.
Speaker 1: And I was just like wow, yeah, anyway, yeah.
Speaker 2: But it's true, it is very true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are back at the store. Polo introduces Lizzie
Speaker 1: to Franca demon Contini. I think I got that absolutely wrong,
Speaker 1: and eccentric fashion designer. She's very famous He covers for
Speaker 1: Lizzie by saying their new single is in English, so
Speaker 1: for practice, Isabella will only speak it, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: explain the accident in any way shape or for him.
Speaker 1: Franka hates the blonde hair, saying she looks like a
Speaker 1: schoolgirl and feels something very different with her different person.
Speaker 1: Franka tells her team to give quote unquote Isabella a makeover,
Speaker 1: and we get another montage, Love a good montage, this
Speaker 1: time to Taylor Dane's cover of RuPaul's Supermodel You Better.
Speaker 2: I disappointing because they use it all. I cannot do
Speaker 2: that song and not use the original.
Speaker 1: It's also used all the time though it's kind of cliche.
Speaker 1: But what it wasn't back in the day, maybe this was.
Speaker 1: I'll give that a pass because two thousand and three
Speaker 1: it wasn't cliche. Maybe a little. We see Lizzie trying
Speaker 1: on different ridiculous high fashion outfits, trying to walk, and
Speaker 1: once again falling over. This girl falls an off a lot.
Speaker 1: Somebody might want to give her a cat scan. It
Speaker 1: could be something with an inner ear imbalance, but she
Speaker 1: falls a lot. Even animated Lizzie thinks everything is tacky.
Speaker 1: Lizzie tells paul that she's going to go on stage
Speaker 1: as Isabella, but you'll have to be wearing something comfortable
Speaker 1: to feel confident, which is something that she never feels.
Speaker 1: Paula encourages Lizzie to tell Franca what Isabella is wearing,
Speaker 1: so Lizzie finally gets the courage to tell the fashion
Speaker 1: icon that she's not a Barbie doll, She's Isabella Parigi
Speaker 1: and she dresses herself. She demands to see some options
Speaker 1: and lets Franca pick between her two favorites, and maybe
Speaker 1: in the movie's worst moment ever, Lizzie mentions the dresses
Speaker 1: the same color as the one she wore to the
Speaker 1: spring formal. This obviously confuses everyone since Isabella didn't go
Speaker 1: to spring formal. Lizzie instinctually reacts by saying, look at
Speaker 1: all of you. You think that I'm American. I'm just
Speaker 1: how you say it awesome. I'm gonna I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: a break from I'm d COM's podcast.
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding Will. This is when I did take
Speaker 2: a break after this this like fashion part. I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't okay, I just need to I
Speaker 2: just need to like reset, go to the restroom.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was, it was I didn't Okay, yeah, very strange,
Speaker 1: but now filled with adrenaline, Lizzie does a cartwell outside
Speaker 1: and is thrilled to be as confident as Isabella. She
Speaker 1: signs autographs for fans. She once started to write Lizzie
Speaker 1: on a Hank's bicep, only to catch yourself and change
Speaker 1: it to Isabella. But mid adulation, Lizzie notices the school
Speaker 1: bus again and at the same moment, Gordo sees Lizzie
Speaker 1: and blocks Kate's view. Lizzie barely escapes once again thanks
Speaker 1: to her little friend zone admirer. She owes him yet
Speaker 1: another one, and he's by far my favorite part of
Speaker 1: the movie. Sergey Russia's Palo and Lizzie back to a
Speaker 1: hotel distracting the clerk with an umbrella and getting her
Speaker 1: back to her room just before Miss under My and
Speaker 1: the class arrive again. And then Miss Ungermeer, I take
Speaker 1: that back, Miss Ungermeyer's my favorite part of the movie.
Speaker 1: The two of them together were great. Serge and the
Speaker 1: principal even have a tense and somewhat sexy standoff. Was
Speaker 1: she just in the movie Alex Bornstein or is she
Speaker 1: in the show too. She's just in a movie, right, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I figured. That's what I figured. Lizzie jumps
Speaker 1: back into bed, heats up her forehead with the hair dryer,
Speaker 1: and continues the Shenanigans Great Word with Ungermeyer, who asked
Speaker 1: Kate to watch over her to help, but Kate knows
Speaker 1: she's been out of the hotel room. Her hair is done,
Speaker 1: her eyebrows match, and she has a fresh manicure. Lizzie
Speaker 1: wonders why she isn't ritting her out, but Kate says
Speaker 1: she wants to know what's in it for her. Lots
Speaker 1: of blackmail in this movie, kids, lots of blackmail. Although animated,
Speaker 1: Lizzie is tight lit real. Lizzie sings like a canary.
Speaker 1: She tells her everything about Paulo, and Kate is jealous.
Speaker 1: She thinks this is the story she should be living.
Speaker 1: Lizzie asked her to keep quiet about it, and Kate
Speaker 1: says sure, as long as when they get back to
Speaker 1: school she's the cool one again. I don't know this
Speaker 1: character at all. I don't know anything about it, but
Speaker 1: it seemed wildly out of care character to buckle as
Speaker 1: fast as she did and for no reason at all.
Speaker 1: She's just all of a sudden, now I got.
Speaker 2: And it was like I wasn't getting anything out of it. No,
Speaker 2: you have to remember, the person who I would assume
Speaker 2: would have normally been in this position would have been Miranda,
Speaker 2: the character that was her absolute best friend in the show.
Speaker 2: So they had to somehow make this work with this
Speaker 2: other character that was also the one that made her
Speaker 2: life hell at school. So I don't know if they
Speaker 2: would have had both of them in and it would
Speaker 2: have been No.
Speaker 1: You're right, it probably would have been the other friend
Speaker 1: who was covering for her the whole time, and then
Speaker 1: her and Gordo figuring out the best ways to cover
Speaker 1: for Lizzie, and they.
Speaker 2: Had to kind of that might be there, you know,
Speaker 2: as another.
Speaker 1: Something exactly like she would have been. Miss Ungermere would
Speaker 1: have loved.
Speaker 2: There was a huge hole for them to figure out
Speaker 2: how they were going to do stuff, So that was
Speaker 2: also kind of a disappointed factor for me.
Speaker 1: Okay, Then when Gordo enters, Kate quickly lets him know
Speaker 1: she's fully clued into the polo stuff. Gordon's impressed and
Speaker 1: chose Lizzie the tabloid he's found Gordo reveals it says
Speaker 1: Paolo and Isabelle are supposed to sing at the award show.
Speaker 1: Gordo thinks it's odd that he hid this very important detail,
Speaker 1: but Lizzy isn't even paying attention to her and Kate
Speaker 1: are still funding over the magazine and doesn't think it's
Speaker 1: a big deal anyway. Gordo stands by his opinion. Something
Speaker 1: is up with Polo. Yeah, and right on time, Polo
Speaker 1: arrives outside in this little red go kart to pick
Speaker 1: up Lizzie and Kate promises she'll cover for her with Ungermre.
Speaker 1: So now they're friends, apparently. Back at the McGuire household,
Speaker 1: Matt announces to his parents that he's found something shocking
Speaker 1: on the internet. It's not the tabloid though, it's a
Speaker 1: survey about how teenage Italian boys want to date American girls.
Speaker 1: His parents are confident Miss Ungerer is doing a great
Speaker 1: job watching over her, and so Matt pretends defeat and
Speaker 1: concedes he just misses his sister. His mom is touched,
Speaker 1: even tearing up as they embrace. Matt lays it on
Speaker 1: thick and mister McGuire knows where this is going. He's
Speaker 1: getting the passports. Matt's plan appears to have worked. What's
Speaker 1: the plan? Like, he just wants them to go to Italy?
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't get it. I don't
Speaker 1: get it.
Speaker 2: First of all, to be able to just drop everything,
Speaker 2: grab your passports and like book a trip to Europe.
Speaker 1: That's tell how.
Speaker 2: These this family is shown with having that kind of
Speaker 2: money in the show, So that's also that's that's again
Speaker 2: we're bringing in new aspects of like dad's gotten a
Speaker 2: new job, We've got money to fill the world. So
Speaker 2: we're going to go to this trip. But again with
Speaker 2: what for what what are they doing? They're going to
Speaker 2: grab her and bring her home?
Speaker 1: No, I think it's just jo I don't get it.
Speaker 2: And again this is you have to keep in mind,
Speaker 2: this is before camera phones where you can face time, right,
Speaker 2: It's before that situation. So you know you're talking about
Speaker 2: emailing and texting at some point. But why wouldn't they
Speaker 2: even call? Why wouldn't they start with a call and
Speaker 2: then go, oh my god, she's sick, She's okay, We're
Speaker 2: on our way. Is it him?
Speaker 1: Is he trying to get there so that he can
Speaker 1: sell the stuff to the Italian tabloid.
Speaker 2: He's trying to expose what she's doing, that she is
Speaker 2: not this Isabella person.
Speaker 1: That's and he couldn't do that with a phone call.
Speaker 1: He needs to have the entire family go to Italy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It also was obviously in the show and the
Speaker 2: script just to get these other main characters that were
Speaker 2: a huge parts of the show. And like what we
Speaker 2: found out with from Jake is he was the be
Speaker 2: the big story. Yeah, he was a bigger part of
Speaker 2: it than just being like the little sidekick, you know it,
Speaker 2: little brother. Yeah, but this was like so they're just going, yes.
Speaker 1: Going, and I don't get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We're now back at the hotel. Lizzie is still trying
Speaker 1: to sneak past the clerk, eventually tiptoeing her way outside
Speaker 1: with some very close calls and hey she made it
Speaker 1: without falling. And once in Polo's go kart, which is
Speaker 1: essentially what it is, Lizzie wants to know once and
Speaker 1: for all, are they supposed to sing at the award shows.
Speaker 1: Polo admits it's true and tells her all about it.
Speaker 1: At the Tivoli Gardens, Gordo sees them pull off, still
Speaker 1: suspicious as hell, obviously. Now at the gardens, Polo explains
Speaker 1: when Isabella dropped out of the duo, he told everyone
Speaker 1: it was because she was having voice problems. Once the
Speaker 1: media heard Lizzie talking at the gelato shop, they reported
Speaker 1: Isabella's voice was fine, but apparently not that she was
Speaker 1: also American. So now they're stuck singing or their record
Speaker 1: label will sue him. Right when things get a little heated,
Speaker 1: Pallo changes the subject by holding her hand and running
Speaker 1: near waterfalls. He swears he'll teach Lizzie everything she needs
Speaker 1: to know, and Isabella will never see it because she's
Speaker 1: off on some island. He says he'll protect Lizzie if
Speaker 1: she ends up embarrassed, he will have to live for
Speaker 1: a week with missus Ungermeier. He asks for her trust.
Speaker 1: He knows that they can sing together. This is when
Speaker 1: I texted one of the producers and I said, does
Speaker 1: she sing? Does Lizzie McGuire sing? Is this part of
Speaker 1: the thing? And they said no. So just now she's
Speaker 1: saying ayah, it's I get this energy, but it does
Speaker 1: feel very forced. Now running back to the streets, they
Speaker 1: see fireworks and I again knew right off the bat,
Speaker 1: I'm now along for the ride, just to see what
Speaker 1: the hell's going on? But I knew this is this
Speaker 1: guy was bad the second he opened his mouth. Did
Speaker 1: you think he was bad at this point, Sabrina? Did
Speaker 1: you figure it out? Or did you think it was
Speaker 1: still Isabella that was crazy?
Speaker 2: No, I was gold Isabella die. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I did not nobody knows.
Speaker 2: I did not know what I was so confused and
Speaker 2: just I'm at this point not buying anything that's being
Speaker 2: thrown at me at this point, like I've just kind
Speaker 2: of checked.
Speaker 1: Out, confusing.
Speaker 2: I agree, I've checked out.
Speaker 1: I kind of agree, and you're I'm so glad. Okay,
Speaker 1: I hate to say this, but I'm so glad you
Speaker 1: checked out as well. And you were legitimately a fan
Speaker 1: of Lizzy maguire. So it's not just me being that
Speaker 1: the old asshole watching the movie going like just doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense. You were a fan of Lizzy McGuire,
Speaker 1: knew all the characters, and you checked out as well,
Speaker 1: where it was like, what the hell is happening?
Speaker 2: Okay, I feel like keep in mind too, like I
Speaker 2: was a fan of the show and never really watched
Speaker 2: this movie. Like at this point, I'm going there's just
Speaker 2: no way I could have watched this movie and not yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I would have kind of known. So I'm like it
Speaker 2: was hard to then try to like get back into
Speaker 2: my idea of watching. You know, I went and watched
Speaker 2: a couple episodes before I watched the movie just okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: a little bit like everything, and it was just like
Speaker 2: this just to it. It's just so far fetched from
Speaker 2: what the show was in all honesty. The characters are
Speaker 2: the same. You know, Lizzie's the same, Kate's the same,
Speaker 2: the like you know, Gordo airhead, airhead, hot guy, He's
Speaker 2: the same, Ethan, Gordo's the same. We're missing and uh,
Speaker 2: I was not able to get over that. I was
Speaker 2: just kind of like, oh, okay, this is what I
Speaker 2: was wanting to It wasn't just me so excited.
Speaker 1: I'm glad it wasn't just me. Meanwhile, are we coming no? Sorry,
Speaker 1: our producers love it. Meanwhile, Gordo is still on the balcony,
Speaker 1: looking sad and angry. Was he there all day and night?
Speaker 1: Was he there all day and night?
Speaker 2: I guess he was just keeping a lookout for whatever
Speaker 2: his dream girl came back.
Speaker 1: Okay, tell all right, and Now the mcguires are on
Speaker 1: a plane to Rome. For some reason, Matt opens his
Speaker 1: blackmail briefcase while sitting next to his dad. You had
Speaker 1: one job, Matt, you had one job. Anyway, he sees
Speaker 1: the internet story about her and Polo and now they
Speaker 1: need to know everything, and like his sister earlier, he
Speaker 1: sings like a canary. Back at the hotel, Aungermere is
Speaker 1: leaving with her class of the day, just as Lizzie
Speaker 1: is sneaking out in a food cart. But Ungermer remembers
Speaker 1: she wanted to bring some apricots up to Lizzie's room
Speaker 1: since she's still sick. She starts to make her way update,
Speaker 1: but Gordo comes through once again. He cuts her off.
Speaker 1: He wants some spaghetti, but she catches on quickly. Why
Speaker 1: is he trying to stop her from going to the
Speaker 1: mguire's room. Maybe she was never sick to begin with.
Speaker 1: She just did this to sneak out of the hotel. Now.
Speaker 1: A very cool thing about miss Ungermeer is she's unlike
Speaker 1: any teacher or parent ind comes from the past. She's
Speaker 1: not a total idiot. She actually figures everything out very quickly,
Speaker 1: But Gordo's still thinking out his toes. He blames himself,
Speaker 1: he's the one who's been sneaking out As a result,
Speaker 1: Ungermeer sends him home. Kate sought all go down, knowing
Speaker 1: Gordo just fell on his sword for Lizzie and looks
Speaker 1: pretty upset about it. Again, nice guy. She's off with
Speaker 1: the polo, the Vespa rider, who's clearly bad. Where the good?
Speaker 1: Gordo's just waiting at home, covering her, apparently singing.
Speaker 2: And he was so excited about this trip too, like
Speaker 2: so excited, and I just going home now.
Speaker 1: Yep, and he's going home for her. And now Paulo
Speaker 1: and Lizzie arrive at a massive, stunning rehearsal hall. We
Speaker 1: find out they'll be singing at the Colisseum, so he
Speaker 1: thinks this will make for good practice. And again, okay,
Speaker 1: I can't. She's Isabella's not supposed to see that they're singing,
Speaker 1: that somebody who looks just like her is singing at
Speaker 1: the coliseum because she's on an island. Yeah, okay. They
Speaker 1: take the stage and Palla starts singing and instructs Lizzie
Speaker 1: to lip sync. Animated Lizzie refuses, but real Lizzie gets
Speaker 1: into it, mimicking the words in real life song by
Speaker 1: Hilary's sister Haley. Okay, so she knows the words to
Speaker 1: this because she listened to their album, right, that's what
Speaker 1: we're supposed to gain? They covered that. I thought the
Speaker 1: same thing. Okay, she knows the song because she was
Speaker 1: listening to their album Gotcha. Okay, fair enough. Palla doesn't
Speaker 1: like what he sees, though, so he tells Lizzie to
Speaker 1: audibly sing along. It looks better and her mike will
Speaker 1: be off. They start again, belting out a ballot called
Speaker 1: this Is What Dreams Are Made Of. They transition into
Speaker 1: an upbeat track to dance. We see highlights of him
Speaker 1: teaching her the moves and Sabrina as our resident dance expert.
Speaker 1: What'd you think? It is?
Speaker 2: Awful? Okay, awful. It was hard to watch, and this
Speaker 2: was my second after this. I had to take another break.
Speaker 2: This movie took me three days to watch. Will three
Speaker 2: freaking days to watch because it was like, oh, and
Speaker 2: you know, it's like I not it just it's like
Speaker 2: I just don't. I don't like I okay, because I
Speaker 2: do know how to dance, and I do teach dance
Speaker 2: and coach dance, and I've been lucky enough to be
Speaker 2: on Dancing with the Stars, but I don't ever like
Speaker 2: to feel like I'm like this, like expert of I
Speaker 2: just know all of all. But there is sometimes when
Speaker 2: you see bad dancing, you sometimes have to just call
Speaker 2: it for what it is. And again, to our producers
Speaker 2: who love this movie, I am sorry, but this dancing
Speaker 2: was off. It really was.
Speaker 1: One of the producers just wrote in the chat, I
Speaker 1: am shook, honestly on you know, there's an.
Speaker 2: Old saying and acting which I don't know, shook, How
Speaker 2: can you not no, this is one of this is no,
Speaker 2: this is no.
Speaker 1: Well, there's an old saying in acting that you should
Speaker 1: apply to dance then, which is it doesn't take a
Speaker 1: great actor to recognize a bad one. Okay, so maybe
Speaker 1: it's the same thing in dancing. Maybe it does, which
Speaker 1: you are a great dancer, But to make yourself feel better,
Speaker 1: you can say it doesn't take a great dancer to
Speaker 1: recognize the bad one. There was I know nothing of dance,
Speaker 1: and I noticed it was bad.
Speaker 2: But to be honest, it seriously wasn't even like that.
Speaker 2: They were just like bad dancing. It was like the
Speaker 2: choreography they we're doing. She was in the weirdest outfit,
Speaker 2: the shoes, the dress, like it was weird that she
Speaker 2: was in that everything looked weird about it, and it
Speaker 2: was not shot like it wasn't compared to think about
Speaker 2: what we have seen Will and the way these other
Speaker 2: movies would dance type things kind of the same exact
Speaker 2: that we've already seen, how it's shot differently than what
Speaker 2: this was. This was just all around missing the mark
Speaker 2: on like, okay, several levels.
Speaker 1: By the way, producer michaela is still trying to justify something.
Speaker 1: I mean, Hillary isn't a dancer, and neither is Lizzie.
Speaker 1: So now it's realistic. Isn't that what she wanted? She
Speaker 1: she is going down with.
Speaker 2: This show, so I don't want her to dance at all.
Speaker 2: Of that's not if it's not going to be done
Speaker 2: right and they're not saying to do it right. There,
Speaker 2: just stand there.
Speaker 1: I gotcha. After practice, which apparently she needs a lot of,
Speaker 1: Lizzie returns to the hotel and wants to tell Gordo
Speaker 1: all about her night, but Kate tells her he got
Speaker 1: sent home for covering for her. Kate also clues Lizzie
Speaker 1: in on the most obvious part he likes her. Duh.
Speaker 1: Lizzy and Kate run down to Giorgio, the hotel clerk,
Speaker 1: and begging to call the airport. He's told the plane
Speaker 1: has already left, which makes Lizzie run to the corner
Speaker 1: and cry. But we see that Gordo is just boarding
Speaker 1: the plane and guess who he's He's arriving in Rome
Speaker 1: at the same time the real Isabella. What are the chances?
Speaker 1: He jumps out a line to approach her, and this
Speaker 1: is why we get to hear Hillary's Italian accent. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to bash another actor. I can't, but this
Speaker 1: is where we're gonna see it. Oh and apparently this
Speaker 1: is where Evangeline Lily appears. We think holding Gordo. Okay,
Speaker 1: that makes sense, especially now because again not to jump ahead,
Speaker 1: but our friend Jake Thomas told us that they shot
Speaker 1: a lot of this in Vancouver, so that makes sense
Speaker 1: because Evangeline Lily is from Canada, so that makes sense
Speaker 1: that that's where it would be got it. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we get to hear Hillary's Italian accent. And I will
Speaker 1: just say this, not everyone I can't sing, I can't dance.
Speaker 1: Not everyone can do dialects. It is a very difficult part.
Speaker 1: It takes a lot of practice.
Speaker 2: Try to make me do it, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: i am not trained to do that.
Speaker 1: Exactly. A lot of people can't do dialects, and I've
Speaker 1: just gonna leave it at that. Isabella is freaking out
Speaker 1: now seeing the tabloid. Gordo rushes up to her and
Speaker 1: says he can explain. Isabella wants to know everything about
Speaker 1: Lizzie and Gordo wants to know everything about Pallo. So
Speaker 1: they decide to talk in private. Because this big international
Speaker 1: pop star showing up at the airport and just hanging
Speaker 1: out with Gordo all makes sense.
Speaker 2: I will say though, I loved Hillary Duff and Gordo's Sorry,
Speaker 2: I don't know the actor's name, but I loved the
Speaker 2: scenes that they were in, like you could tell that
Speaker 2: those oh they're real chemistry, they're real chemistry, and that
Speaker 2: they had a great relationship on camera like they I
Speaker 2: loved so even seeing her as Isabella having a scene
Speaker 2: with Gordo, I did love like their energy, the vibe
Speaker 2: between each other, like they were so like her grabbing him,
Speaker 2: like you could just tell they were like really good
Speaker 2: friends that were.
Speaker 1: And the girl they got to play. Isabella really does
Speaker 1: look a lot like Hillary. She really does, which which
Speaker 1: is incredible, which is really incredible.
Speaker 2: Just really the dark hair is really the only thing
Speaker 2: that's like.
Speaker 1: That's all. But we know in the Disney we're in
Speaker 1: the world of Disney. Change color your hair, you change
Speaker 1: your entire Look. Yep, we're back at the hotel now.
Speaker 1: Lizzie is pouting about how selfish she's been and how
Speaker 1: she's ruined Gordo's trip. She wants to turn herself into
Speaker 1: Miss Ungermeer, but Kate stops her. That'll get her sent home.
Speaker 1: Then everything Gordo did will be for nothing. Even animated
Speaker 1: Lizzie agrees. That night, Miss Ungermeer is checking on all
Speaker 1: the students and is tricked by seeing pillows in Lizzie's bed.
Speaker 1: It's the oldest trick in the book. But the whole
Speaker 1: McGuire family's downstairs barking at Georgio unsuccessfully trying to find
Speaker 1: their daughter. But like I said, since she's never really fooled,
Speaker 1: Miss Angermeyer arrives to help. She explains that Lizzie has
Speaker 1: been sick and takes him up to her room, but
Speaker 1: when her mom tries to wake her. They realize it's
Speaker 1: just pillows. This is a problem. Miss Ungermeyer goes straight
Speaker 1: to ethan does he know where she is? And again
Speaker 1: repeating a real theme of this movie, he sings like
Speaker 1: a canary, mentioning the award shows and filling in for Isabella.
Speaker 1: Everybody apparently knows about this. Now on the red carpet,
Speaker 1: the press and the fans are going nuts for Polo
Speaker 1: and Lizzie or Isabella. We hear another cover, this time
Speaker 1: of Superstar by the Carpenter is sung by Haley Duff.
Speaker 1: Lizzie trips on the red carpet, causing a quick gasp,
Speaker 1: but she quickly gets up again. Serious balance problems this
Speaker 1: girl has gets.
Speaker 2: Up that they did it.
Speaker 1: I got it, but she follow This girl falls and
Speaker 1: laughs an awful lot for somebody not to check to
Speaker 1: see if anything's wrong with her. We are now backstage
Speaker 1: at the coliseum. Lizzie is freaking out, but Paolo assures
Speaker 1: her she can do it. He says she shines like
Speaker 1: a light from the sun. Polo is taken away by producers,
Speaker 1: leaving Lizzie alone until Gordo grabs her. He comes to
Speaker 1: tell her what he's found out Polo is setting her up. Wait,
Speaker 1: he's been bad the whole time? What who called that me?
Speaker 1: The second I saw him? Then the real Isabella arrives
Speaker 1: and says it's actually her he is setting up. And
Speaker 1: then in a moment of cinematic history, we get our
Speaker 1: two Hillary Duffs looking at each other in one shot.
Speaker 1: I was wondering if and when that was gonna happen,
Speaker 1: and we get it okay. Gordo explains that Isabella is
Speaker 1: the one who really sings and writes the music. Polo
Speaker 1: is the lip syncer, which Isabella confirms in just the
Speaker 1: worst accent ever, it almost sounds Jamaican. Tom is a
Speaker 1: little bit. It's it's a again, not everyone could do dialects,
Speaker 1: but this is a strange pick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just forced. It's just another thing that was
Speaker 2: just yes, felt like.
Speaker 1: Yes, you knowed agreed. The Awards Show performance, it turns out,
Speaker 1: is a setup so Lizzie will fail and it will
Speaker 1: make Isabella looks like she can't sing, thus destroying her career.
Speaker 1: Very convoluted. Lizzie doesn't believe it, Polo would never do
Speaker 1: that to her, but Isabella reveals a quote, you shine
Speaker 1: like the light from the sun. This proves he's a
Speaker 1: con man, using the same lines on everyone. Lizzie is
Speaker 1: hurt and takes one last look at Paolo, holding back tears.
Speaker 1: What was your go to pickup line, Sabrina? What was
Speaker 1: the one you would say? To guys? What's your You
Speaker 1: shine like the lighte from the sun? Go? What's your
Speaker 1: pickup line?
Speaker 2: Why would you think I would have mine?
Speaker 1: You gotta have one. You don't have a pick up line?
Speaker 2: Come on, No, girls don't have like ooshing line? Oh really,
Speaker 2: what do you think it was like? You want to
Speaker 2: dance like?
Speaker 1: Oh? See perfect?
Speaker 2: No, I just say you love it?
Speaker 1: Oh? I love it exactly. I like that.
Speaker 2: What was yours? You had to have a good one.
Speaker 1: I usually just said we have to get home soon,
Speaker 1: my mom's picking me up in an hour. That usually
Speaker 1: got women all the time. How confused you are? No,
Speaker 1: I got nothing. I never had pickup lines. I don't
Speaker 1: know pickup lines. My favorite one I ever saw was
Speaker 1: my friend you you he licked his finger and you
Speaker 1: put it on a friend's shoulder, and he said, let's
Speaker 1: get out of those wet clothes.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: I thought that one was about it. I would never
Speaker 1: work in a million years, but.
Speaker 2: I thought, oh my god, I need them. If I
Speaker 2: ever had pickup lines said to me throughout like teens
Speaker 2: and twenties, I would get that same reaction you get
Speaker 2: from me all the time of I don't know what.
Speaker 1: To do with my face, just laughing and having no
Speaker 1: idea what to do. I love it.
Speaker 2: That's how it could not be picked up either, like
Speaker 2: I couldn't I couldn't dish it, I couldn't take it.
Speaker 1: I'd laugh too. Yeah, yeah, so it Prusy's a con man.
Speaker 1: He's using the same lines and everybody. Lizzy's hurt, takes
Speaker 1: one last look at Polo and holding back tears. Lizzie
Speaker 1: tells Isabella to take her place and sing that'll fix everything,
Speaker 1: but Isabella can't she's not blonde. Instead, she wants to
Speaker 1: get revenge online TV by making him sing not lip sync,
Speaker 1: and just like that, Lizzie is pulled away by a producer,
Speaker 1: but Isabella promises she has a plan. It seems like
Speaker 1: it's a good plan. Meanwhile, the Maguire parents are trying
Speaker 1: to enter the award show but getting nowhere with security.
Speaker 1: In response, missus Ungermeier growls and kicks the guards out
Speaker 1: of the way, letting a whole mob of people into
Speaker 1: the event.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Isabella and Gordo talk to the sound guy and Paolo
Speaker 1: didn't apply him with any female singing track tonight. So
Speaker 1: Isabella's assumptions were right. He was going to embarrass Lizzie.
Speaker 1: And that's when the music begins. Lizzie takes the stage
Speaker 1: in huge bell bottoms to thousands of people. We get
Speaker 1: a very good shot here. To make it look like
Speaker 1: it's packed, Isabella instructs the sound guy to turn down
Speaker 1: Lizzie's mike all the way, but keep Paolo's up. Now,
Speaker 1: with both singers on stage, Polo starts the song lip syncing,
Speaker 1: and as Lizzie joins in, we hear beautiful singing. It's
Speaker 1: Isabella off stage now singing live for her. She's pulled
Speaker 1: a fast one on Paolo, and then the sound guy
Speaker 1: removes Polo's backing track, exposing his terrible, puberty stricken singing voice,
Speaker 1: and the crowd starts laughing as Lizzie continues to reap
Speaker 1: Isabella's benefits. The real Isabella eventually walks out on stage,
Speaker 1: exposing the truth as Paolo gets worse and worse, eventually
Speaker 1: walking off stage, Isabella, thanks her new American friend Lizzie McGuire,
Speaker 1: and backstage security Sergei grabs Polo. He's mad that Paolo
Speaker 1: tried to hurt Lizzie, a very nice girl. He quits,
Speaker 1: allowing Polo to get swarm by the press. Now on stage,
Speaker 1: Isabella and Lizzie have decided to sing one big number together. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's okay, okay, if okay, okay, let me okay, let
Speaker 1: me try to walk get walked through this maybe okay, okay.
Speaker 1: If Lizzie McGuire can sing well enough on stage to
Speaker 1: have a duet with this international pop star, why did
Speaker 1: the international pop star have to sing under Lizzie McGuire
Speaker 1: who lip syncs the lyrics if she knew the lyrics
Speaker 1: because she's lip synching and can sing, why not just sing.
Speaker 2: Yeah that part I. Because they also go as far
Speaker 2: enough to show us the soundboard right like they're gonna
Speaker 2: pull track mike down, she's coming in with another mic
Speaker 2: to sing, and then at some point they push her
Speaker 2: her vocals up so she is lip syncing right right.
Speaker 1: But then they stay on the stage.
Speaker 2: Take shover Paolo's lyrics that he's supposed to do, and
Speaker 2: then Lizzie's live sinking, right.
Speaker 1: No, no, I think they're doing the duet together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he pushed her vocals up, So wasn't she
Speaker 2: lives sinking?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I don't know what's happening. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're doing it as if Miley and Hannah Montana had
Speaker 1: a duet, which is kind of cool. This time, we
Speaker 1: don't get too many one shots of them together anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: At one point of the song, Isabella leaves and now
Speaker 1: Lizzie is alone. She's terrified. Even animated, Lizzie is terrified.
Speaker 1: She tries to run off the stage, but Grdo stops her.
Speaker 1: He tells her to stay calm and sing, and so
Speaker 1: she does. She gets her own solo in the colisseum,
Speaker 1: still swimming in the huge bell bottoms, eventually becoming comfortable.
Speaker 1: She sounds great. So she was a good singer the
Speaker 1: whole time. Why didn't she just sing?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, well, and so then it started making me
Speaker 2: think of the first scene that we saw where she's
Speaker 2: singing in her bedroom, right, like it's setting up the
Speaker 2: idea that Matt is her little brother, is tormenting her
Speaker 2: by capturing this. But she also that was Hilary's voice,
Speaker 2: so she was actually singing that song. Okay, So I
Speaker 2: guess that's where kind of that's where the correlation and
Speaker 2: everything kind of like lens and you understand. But again
Speaker 2: for me, I'm still stuck on the fact that this
Speaker 2: was not part of the TV show. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: where are we going with this? This wasn't at Pannah Montana,
Speaker 2: who's now just.
Speaker 1: Ye.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like it's not that it's like randomly she's
Speaker 2: got this great voice and it's going to sing on
Speaker 2: at the coliseum, Like No, this is.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and three. Has has Miley size? Has Hannah
Speaker 1: Montana started yet in any way show form? Okay? So
Speaker 1: they essentially saw this on stage and said we need
Speaker 1: to create an entire show this, this is the whole
Speaker 1: show is a singer. It seems like they saw this
Speaker 1: and this is where Hannah Montana came from.
Speaker 2: And I remember when we were doing Cheetah Girls stuff,
Speaker 2: they were talking about like, oh, like doing something kind
Speaker 2: of like this, and even with that so raven they
Speaker 2: did some kind of musical stuff too, but like the
Speaker 2: channel saying like the amount of money it would take
Speaker 2: to do all the production and everything for their music
Speaker 2: videos and put it on a show just wasn't really
Speaker 2: likely and wasn't like something that was just too much
Speaker 2: for them. So it was like they were seeing where
Speaker 2: this could go, and like that's what I was saying,
Speaker 2: Like this movie put a good foundation on with the
Speaker 2: channel of like where they could take these stars that
Speaker 2: are coming to them. The talent that the stars have
Speaker 2: is not just acting, where could they go with them?
Speaker 2: So that was, you know, somewhat the case.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well, anyway, there's still more of this movie.
Speaker 1: Ethan Kate, miss Ungermeyer, and her family arrive at the
Speaker 1: show and are dancing along to the song and loving it.
Speaker 1: Miss Ungermier and Serge even give each other a flirty
Speaker 1: little wave. She finishes the song perfectly choreographed and bows
Speaker 1: to the audience. Isabella comes back out proud of her
Speaker 1: new pal and they bow together. They give us one
Speaker 1: final trick shot of them side by side. It's a
Speaker 1: pretty good shot actually, for being honest. Later that night,
Speaker 1: Lizzie is surrounded by photographers. She's becoming a star, but
Speaker 1: her parents have grounded her for the rest of the summer. Nearby,
Speaker 1: Kate is complaining to Ethan, she thinks Lizzie got everything
Speaker 1: you're supposed to get in Europe adventure, romance confidence. If
Speaker 1: that can happen to Lizzie, then she doesn't know anything.
Speaker 1: Ethan says, that's hot. Girls that think they know everything
Speaker 1: are a turn off. He's impressed she didn't rat out Lizzie,
Speaker 1: and then they dig into spaghetti together.
Speaker 2: Okay, weird messaging, yep.
Speaker 1: Miss Ungermeyer tells Gordo she's disappointed in his constant lies.
Speaker 1: He admits his wrongdoings and apologizes, but the principal also
Speaker 1: calls him a loyal friend, and loyalty goes along way
Speaker 1: with her. Meanwhile, Max is showing people his footage of
Speaker 1: Lizzie trying to sell the Hot gossp but Georgio to
Speaker 1: him first and says, in Rome, they did not blackmail
Speaker 1: their sisters. Then he throws the tape into a fountain
Speaker 1: To escape the party, Gordo makes his way to an elevator,
Speaker 1: but is joined by Lizzie as the door's closing. She
Speaker 1: asks for one more getaway for old times sake, and
Speaker 1: the two friends find their way back onto the roof.
Speaker 1: Lizzie's thinking about staying in Rome since she's finally found
Speaker 1: her voice there, but Gorda promises her she doesn't need
Speaker 1: to be in Rome to feel confident she had it
Speaker 1: the whole time. And then Lizzie kisses Gordo, which I think.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it had anything to do with
Speaker 1: the show, but it seemed like you just drew it
Speaker 1: in again. He thanks her, then awkwardly asks her back
Speaker 1: to the party. As they return to the hotel, fireworks
Speaker 1: go off, signaling in the end of our movie with
Speaker 1: animated Lizzie acting as our tinker Bell. Do you think
Speaker 1: they end up together?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but this, literally, that quick of a
Speaker 2: kiss was exactly how my first kiss went. It was
Speaker 2: like it happened. We looked at each other and then
Speaker 2: we're like, got that done with? I've had my first kiss.
Speaker 1: Yes, Wow, I love it. I love that.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they end up together, I don't
Speaker 2: know either. I would hope. So he's a great guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he could do better, girl, He could do better.
Speaker 2: He could do better.
Speaker 1: He could do better.
Speaker 2: I don't know how. I can't blame Lizzie for thinking,
Speaker 2: ho week how I'm in a different country. The magic
Speaker 2: is real. This guy, this Superstar of Nowhere likes me like,
Speaker 2: I mean, she's young.
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2: I don't feel like she was trying to be a
Speaker 2: bad friend to him. She wanted to give herself and
Speaker 2: she got talked out of it because I get it again,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: According to the producer, it says Gordo has always been
Speaker 1: in love with her, so that kiss was everything when
Speaker 1: she watched it happen in the third grade. Okay, so
Speaker 1: they had built this third grade. Yeah, unreal. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: let's do some real reviews, and Sabrina, you got the
Speaker 1: five star this week.
Speaker 2: I do this is a good five star. I'm actually
Speaker 2: like down for this five stars. I think.
Speaker 1: Mikayla actually.
Speaker 2: That Jensen just happened to find the best film ever
Speaker 2: made in the entire history of human existence. Not only
Speaker 2: does it define a generation, but it teaches us to
Speaker 2: be ourselves and seek a life of adventure. This, my friends,
Speaker 2: is what trains are made. Thank you, maryel Slash. Mikayla.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks Mikaela for that. I've got the one star review.
Speaker 1: And this is by Pedro v or it could be
Speaker 1: Pedro five. This might be the fifth Pedro I don't know.
Speaker 1: And this it reads as thus, my girlfriend is a
Speaker 1: big fan of the Lizzie maguire series. I'm not. She
Speaker 1: wanted to see this during summer school and it was
Speaker 1: honestly absolute garbage. There is barely any good stuff. And
Speaker 1: all I can say is that we should have watched
Speaker 1: Bugs Life too. I love that. Now we're gonna come
Speaker 1: to our favorite part of the program, or at least
Speaker 1: Sabrina's favorite part of the program. And that's our feature
Speaker 1: for this week. What has producer Jensen set up for us? Well,
Speaker 1: here we go. Lizzie MacGuire might just be the best
Speaker 1: example of a Disney show becoming a theatrical success with
Speaker 1: their first movie. We will now get the name of
Speaker 1: a TV show. We have to decide if it was
Speaker 1: ever turned into a movie, could have been screened in
Speaker 1: theaters or just on TV? Three out of five wins, ooh,
Speaker 1: let's see okay, number one Chips remember the show, Chips.
Speaker 1: You'd never remember the show?
Speaker 2: You do?
Speaker 1: Oh? I do?
Speaker 2: It's with the police cars or the police motorcyclist yight?
Speaker 1: Eric Strada broke, Eric Strada.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, this was a movie.
Speaker 1: This was a movie I think with Dak Shephard you
Speaker 1: are correct, yes, yes, thank you.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Number two my Favorite Martian. This was a show back
Speaker 1: in the day with Oh I can't remember his name.
Speaker 1: Ray Walston was in My Favorite Martian Let's stick with
Speaker 1: from the fifties. And I'm going to say this was
Speaker 1: also a movie, Sabrina.
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was in nineteen ninety starring Jeff Daniels and
Speaker 1: Christopher Lloyd. Okay, there we go. Number three all in
Speaker 1: the family. There's no way they made this in the movie.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no, No, you're correct, No, Okay. Number
Speaker 1: four I won, by the way, I'm alaty Number four,
Speaker 1: Car fifty four, where are you? I don't they have
Speaker 1: made a car old old school cop show. Ok I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say no, they never made this into into a movie.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say no because I don't even believe it
Speaker 2: was a show. They did. They did in nineteen ninety
Speaker 2: four starring Rosie O'Donnell and Fran Dresher.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, and then number five hilarious elf.
Speaker 1: They never made an alf did they? Maybe they made
Speaker 1: a movie of the Week. I don't think so. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say no.
Speaker 2: They did in nineteen ninety six, Right a go. They
Speaker 2: made it alf movie Jensen will be I again lost?
Speaker 1: Moving on, can we do some Sabrina Sease?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have a time that we haven't gone over.
Speaker 2: The first thing is the airline that they take over
Speaker 2: is Luftanza. That is the airline that would take because
Speaker 2: that's when I used anytime we would go over for
Speaker 2: the Channel, that's the airline that they always use. So
Speaker 2: I did. Yeah, I did like that. That was like,
Speaker 2: you know, a cool shout out for them because they
Speaker 2: are the ones that would take over all the Disney
Speaker 2: Channel stars. When they were doing that, it was interesting
Speaker 2: to see it being like an older I guess an
Speaker 2: older hoteler what was supposed to be because they all
Speaker 2: got actual keys. They didn't have key yes, And I
Speaker 2: thought I would allow that key so fast if I
Speaker 2: was on a trip, I would have been paying like whatever,
Speaker 2: like the one hundred and fifty dollars you have to
Speaker 2: pay for like a brand new key. And then I
Speaker 2: did clock that Supermodel cover. Wasn't a fan of that.
Speaker 2: One of the things that I did like seeing, you know,
Speaker 2: I like looking at the gadgets and stuff and these
Speaker 2: pieces I loved the camcorder that I also got to
Speaker 2: have in one of them says that, and the CD
Speaker 2: discman like the that Ethan had. He was like listening
Speaker 2: to it. And I love those kinds of things because
Speaker 2: it just takes you back. It's just like a nostalgia thing,
Speaker 2: like I still have a work discman, do you really?
Speaker 1: Yep?
Speaker 2: You know what's so funny is thinking of like working
Speaker 2: out with a discman, like having.
Speaker 1: Too and it would skip. You couldn't run with it
Speaker 1: and it would skip around and yes, or.
Speaker 2: You have to find like a place in the gym
Speaker 2: where you could put it to do whatever you were doing,
Speaker 2: and it wasn't good because like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, gonna if you didn't have that right.
Speaker 2: One thing that really annoyed me, and we talked about
Speaker 2: quite a few things that people weren't like picking up
Speaker 2: on her when she was supposed to be Isabella and
Speaker 2: then also when she was Lizzy was the wig was
Speaker 2: like looked like it was about to fall off. So
Speaker 2: many times when she was Isabella, that brown leg was
Speaker 2: not she didn't look like she had a lace front,
Speaker 2: so she didn't have it like sitting on her head.
Speaker 2: But when they were backstage, they do a quick moment
Speaker 2: of the producer when they come to get Lizzy literally
Speaker 2: sees Isabella right there, yes, and like like she's backstage.
Speaker 2: A lot of it didn't make any sense. That was
Speaker 2: just again, it just was kind of just unrealistic and
Speaker 2: it was hard to really do that. And then something
Speaker 2: that happens, and it's with two of our favorite characters,
Speaker 2: the bodyguard and the principal, is they at the end
Speaker 2: were all speaking in the third person, and that always
Speaker 2: cracks me up when people do that. They're like, mss
Speaker 2: Ungermeier like this, like the okay, all right, Oh that
Speaker 2: is it. That is all my That is probably the
Speaker 2: look at how many normally I have like normally so
Speaker 2: much and I had this this is all I could see.
Speaker 1: Well, Will loves that you found that many.
Speaker 2: Oh well, Sabrina is grateful for all of appreciation. Thank you.
Speaker 1: It is now the time of our program where we've
Speaker 1: got to rate the movie we just saw and producers dreams,
Speaker 1: Yes we do. Let's do one out of ten. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna make a joke about it because it's not
Speaker 1: joke worthy. Our options this week are one out of ten.
Speaker 1: Accidental naked videos of your sister whoa one of ten
Speaker 1: eighth graders alone in another country, pizza, inventing cities, psychotic
Speaker 1: laughing fits one out of ten in season apricots one
Speaker 1: out of ten, threats of blackmail, and a kid's movie
Speaker 1: Go Kart Cars, Hillary Duff, Italian accents one out of ten,
Speaker 1: singing canaries or one out of ten huge bell bottoms.
Speaker 1: Do I pick or do you pick? This week? This time,
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna do. Psychotic laughing fits is what
Speaker 1: I'm going to pick.
Speaker 2: Every By the way, It's gonna be hilarious, and I
Speaker 2: hope people actually hear. Every time you bring it up,
Speaker 2: I end.
Speaker 1: Up laughing.
Speaker 2: Because it's because I noticed it too. Why is she
Speaker 2: just always by the way before by you this entire
Speaker 2: every episode, I'm laughing the whole time.
Speaker 1: My cheeks hurt after me too, My whole my whole
Speaker 1: head hurts. Right now, before before we get into how
Speaker 1: many psychotic laughing fits, I'd like to point out that
Speaker 1: producer MICHAELA literally just wrote, watch yourself. I know it's
Speaker 1: never going to come back on she I'm telling you again,
Speaker 1: you know how long it took for her to talk
Speaker 1: to me again after double teamed. That's why I started
Speaker 1: it this way. Okay, you go first, or do I
Speaker 1: go first? I think you go first.
Speaker 2: I think I do go first. So again, this was
Speaker 2: a movie that was hard for me because of quite
Speaker 2: a few things, mainly one because I was a fan
Speaker 2: of the TV show, so I was and I do
Speaker 2: not remember actually watching this movie except for that end
Speaker 2: final performance. I remember that, and that was it. I
Speaker 2: didn't remember that there was a second Hillary duff in
Speaker 2: it with the Isabella character. I didn't remember any of
Speaker 2: that stuff, So I don't think I watched it. That
Speaker 2: being said, I was expecting a longer version of the
Speaker 2: of an episode, right. I wasn't like thinking we were
Speaker 2: going to add in all these extra things, being a
Speaker 2: part of the channel, knowing that there was an opportunity
Speaker 2: for them to kind of showcase another country, to showcase
Speaker 2: the talent of their incredible actor. You know that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. I get it, I get it. I get
Speaker 2: at the I know to how much Hillary was pushing
Speaker 2: for that next level and that next stage of her career.
Speaker 2: This just to me hit missed the mark and it
Speaker 2: although I do believe and want to give it the
Speaker 2: credit of being a very good foundation of what was
Speaker 2: get to come within the next like five six years
Speaker 2: of the channel. Yeah, this definitely had that, This had
Speaker 2: that that foundation, but it just this was not and again,
Speaker 2: this is what I felt about when we watched the
Speaker 2: first Cheetah Girls. We hadn't found that stride the first movie.
Speaker 2: In the second movie was very different. Yeah, the channel
Speaker 2: learned through the first Cheetah Girls then with high school
Speaker 2: musical like so they were building. So this was definitely
Speaker 2: the foundation of the build. And you know, even that
Speaker 2: though the holes in the storyline, the things that just
Speaker 2: didn't make sense, and unfortunately the things that I just
Speaker 2: felt were just being put they were being Yeah, they
Speaker 2: were being forced, and it didn't This wasn't to me
Speaker 2: Lizzie McGuire. I'm gonna say Lizzy McGuire, not Hillary Duff.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this wasn't the best representation of Lizzie
Speaker 2: McGuire for me. Okay, And that would take me too.
Speaker 2: Because I still love the show. I'm gonna give it
Speaker 2: a little bit of a boost, but it's gonna be
Speaker 2: a six point five.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you are way more generous than I am.
Speaker 2: Yeah, six point five psychotic laughing.
Speaker 1: Okay, that hurts.
Speaker 2: It hurts because I love Lizzie McGuire. This is so rough. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just do only just do that.
Speaker 1: I knew nothing of Lizzie McGuire. I knew the name.
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about the show. But the idea
Speaker 1: that all of a sudden she's a singer didn't make
Speaker 1: a whole lot of sense. Some of the accents were
Speaker 1: not great. Some of the storyline of now she's American,
Speaker 1: none of it. A lot of it just didn't make
Speaker 1: any sense to me. Again, Hillary Duff, you can tell
Speaker 1: the kids lover, she's a star, you know, all that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. The Jake Thomas very funny. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a tropy little brother that's but you know they're.
Speaker 2: Fine coming to Europe.
Speaker 1: Didn't make any sense. It just a lot of it
Speaker 1: just didn't. It was story for me. This story did
Speaker 1: not make any sense. Even got super convoluted at the
Speaker 1: end about well, we're gonna want you to lip sync,
Speaker 1: but you're not gonna lip sync, but he's gonna it.
Speaker 1: Just it was all over the place, and I think,
Speaker 1: i'm i'm, I'm I'm saying this when I say it.
Speaker 1: When I say it's a movie, it's I just saw movie.
Speaker 1: And when I say I just saw a movie that
Speaker 1: means it's right down the middle, and I'm giving this
Speaker 1: five psychotic laughing fits. It's just I didn't get it.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. So the Even Stephens movie, the Even
Speaker 1: Stephens movie with the story of the Even Stevens movie,
Speaker 1: it's absurd, it's outlandish. Of course it is. They're on
Speaker 1: a reality show there. It's crazy. But when I finished
Speaker 1: the Even Stephens.
Speaker 2: Movie, they're saying a month after this, by the okay, okay.
Speaker 1: When I finished Even Stevens movie, I finished going like
Speaker 1: I could see going back and watching the show, Like
Speaker 1: I liked the relationship between the characters. I thought Shy
Speaker 1: I was great. I thought Christy was great. I could
Speaker 1: absolutely see going back and watching the show. I finished
Speaker 1: the Lizzie McGuire movie, and I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: ever need to watch the Lizzie McGuire show. I didn't.
Speaker 1: And again, I know that's not fair to the show,
Speaker 1: because the show is probably very good.
Speaker 2: It was, and it was, I mean, it was. It
Speaker 2: was so perfect Disney Channel at the time of the time.
Speaker 2: It really was. It was so good, and this just
Speaker 2: this wasn't the representation. I feel like, yeah, this is just.
Speaker 1: It was very all over the place, just story wise,
Speaker 1: very all over the place. So yeah, this is this
Speaker 1: was not my favorite. Again we're coming off of I
Speaker 1: think the last one we saw was Horse Sense, which
Speaker 1: was great. Yeah, and again I know we're not we're
Speaker 1: not trying to to compare one or the other, but
Speaker 1: we're literally comparing one of the other. That's what we do.
Speaker 1: That's our job on this on this podcast.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you look at something like Horse Sense and then
Speaker 1: you look at something like this, it's two completely different things.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just and I it's based on existing
Speaker 1: ip so you figure they're going to try to stay
Speaker 1: true to the characters a little bit. But then I
Speaker 1: find out they get rid of one of the main characters.
Speaker 1: They slot in another character. They now she's a singer
Speaker 1: and she's playing multiple characters. It just it seemed like
Speaker 1: there was way too much. It was three movies mashed
Speaker 1: into one.
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, yes, yeah, I mean I will say though
Speaker 2: too though, being like somebody who I feel benefited from
Speaker 2: this foundation that was met sure with the music and
Speaker 2: the that whole idea of being a superstar and that
Speaker 2: whole thing. I'm somebody who benefited from the start that
Speaker 2: was this movie for sure. It still just was. It
Speaker 2: was hard to watch, you know.
Speaker 1: It was them on stage together, them on stage together,
Speaker 1: her and then her, Isabella and Lizzie on stage together.
Speaker 1: Somebody saw that and created Hannah Montana. I mean clearly
Speaker 1: they went, this needs to be a show, and then
Speaker 1: they did it the right way for Hannah Montana, where
Speaker 1: it seemed like it was just thrown into the movie.
Speaker 1: But anyway, okay, well there's there's our come after me.
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna come on, come on, come after me, slaughter.
Speaker 1: If you come after me, you also have to come
Speaker 1: after my tiny little animated character that follows me around everywhere.
Speaker 1: And don't think I don't have one. And yes, slaughter away,
Speaker 1: because I stand by what I said.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Our next episode, we're jumping out of format a little bit,
Speaker 1: but for a very good reason, and we're really excited.
Speaker 1: We're finally doing it. We are sitting down to watch
Speaker 1: the infamous Disney Channel Games. Yes, we'll we recapping season
Speaker 1: three of the games. Yes, the ones were my love Yes,
Speaker 1: the one where my lovely co host competed and compete.
Speaker 1: She did, you did too, But this was pretty impressive.
Speaker 1: All episodes of the season, because they're the only ones
Speaker 1: that are actually on Disney Plus are the season that
Speaker 1: came out the third season last season, which was eight.
Speaker 1: So all five are real. All five are available to
Speaker 1: stream on Disney Plus. So pick a team and ride
Speaker 1: or die with him before we cover it next week.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be important. But before we dive into that obstacle, course,
Speaker 1: we're gonna stay with our pal Lizzy, well more specifically
Speaker 1: her brother. Yes, as I said, we talked to Jake
Speaker 1: Thomas Matt McGuire himself. He gave us all the scoop
Speaker 1: about this legendary Disney property. Listen to this little small
Speaker 1: sample of our conversation.
Speaker 3: Hey, if you wanna if you were really be let down.
Speaker 3: I never went to Rome. I have never been to Italy.
Speaker 1: What, yes you have? I saw in the movie you
Speaker 1: were on the I watched it.
Speaker 2: You were in the hotel.
Speaker 1: Really, so where did you shoot that?
Speaker 3: Your dad's all here in La Vancouver, which I love Vancouver.
Speaker 3: I spent we spent I think probably two or three
Speaker 3: months in Vancouver, and I absolutely love Vancouver.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's a beautiful place, but is not Rome. You
Speaker 1: should one hundred percent check that out Jake Rules. He
Speaker 1: was so cool. Just search for our dedicated Magical Rewind
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