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Fox Sports Radio, 12 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here on a Thursday morning. 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: No LeVar Arrington. He will be back with us on Monday. 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: So to be BQ and I taking you all the 15 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: way up through the rest of the week. The duo 16 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: the dominated Sunday nights. How long we do that show? 17 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: For like five six years? Long ass time we were 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: working on that show. But we are going to be 19 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: taking you all the way up until nine am Eastern time, 20 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: six o'clock Pacific. Here you can listen live on the 21 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. You can find us on hundreds of affiliates. 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: If you're listening on the podcast. We appreciate you doing so, 23 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: and we are rocking and rolling here on this Thursday morning, 24 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: all sorts of NFL conversation to be had. We talked 25 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: about the WBC Team Italy gets it done with a 26 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: bunch of guys from America. You have espresso and they 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: and a bunch of guys from America who can apparently 28 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: somewhat claim that they're Italian and nonetheless they are celebrating 29 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: somewhere in Italy that the baseball's bag. And I do 30 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: wonder though, if this does spark maybe kids in Italy 31 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: wanting to play a little more baseball. I do wonder 32 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: if this stuff helps, because the Dream Team helped, you know, 33 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: when they saw, you know, some of those guys play internationally. 34 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: I think that helped with the NBA. I wouldn't necessarily 35 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: call Team Italy the Dream Team, but I do wonder 36 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: if maybe there's a couple of more kids to like, 37 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: you know what, I don't want to play soccer today, 38 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: give me a bat and a ball. 39 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: Petro said it yesterday, like do we even know if 40 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 3: they're aware this is going on in Italy? It feels 41 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 3: like more of an American derived sport here. I mean, look, 42 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: it's America's pastime. But also at the same time, even 43 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 3: though the World Baseball Classic seems like it's something we 44 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: came up with, are we aware they know what's going on? Like, 45 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 3: is there any live shots over in Italy while the 46 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: games are going? 47 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: I don't believe. So my buddy Romeo, you know about 48 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: just's just a complete and total scumback. 49 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 3: But he also not Italian. I mean he's Italian heritage, 50 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 3: but he's born in the US. 51 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he is. I mean, like I've got a 52 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: ton of Italian, Like I'm more in an Italian jacket 53 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: right now. He got me like he just basically because 54 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: he knows I'll just wear because it's free, nice jacket, 55 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: and so he thank you. So he throws all this 56 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 1: stuff at me. And I was talking to him yesterday 57 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: because it was a birthday, and I said, a man, 58 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: team Italy goes. Yeah, I didn't even know they were playing. 59 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: I had no idea exactly, I had no idea. But 60 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: I'll go watch, you know, the end of the Italy 61 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: Mexico game. So, but congrats, they're onto the next round. 62 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: So it is the US. The WBC has been fun, 63 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: and congratulations to Daniel Jones who gets paid again and 64 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: I don't know what the career totals are going to 65 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: look like what it's all said and done, but not bad. 66 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones agrees to a two year, eighty eight million 67 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: dollar deal. He was they had snapped the was it 68 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: the transition tag on him, so they had slapped that 69 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: on him last week, But now he signs a two 70 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: year eighty eight million dollar deal, fifty million dollars guaranteed 71 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: at signing, sixty million guaranteed for injury with the Colts. 72 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: He was on the Pat mcavie show starring Ajayhawk yesterday 73 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: talking about the new deal. 74 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 4: I want to be back and I'm glad we got 75 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 4: to figure out and the transition tag. That whole process 76 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 4: was was interesting, but I always wanted to be here 77 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 4: and you know, had faith it would it would work out. 78 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 4: So yeah, definitely appreciative, grateful and fired up to be here. 79 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 4: We got a special thing going and working with this 80 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 4: coaching staff, working with the guys in the locker room, 81 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 4: and fired up to get Alec back and all that. 82 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 4: So looking forward to it. 83 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: So now we wait to see what he looks like 84 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: upon his return. 85 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you could become the player that you know 86 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: of all the quarterbacks that have come through recently. And 87 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 3: we've talked about this with Kirk Cousins. You know, Kirk 88 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: Cousins is in the Hall of Fame of business in 89 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: the NFL for as much money as he's made for 90 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: it one one playoff win whatever it is, Yeah, which 91 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: usually people you know, attribute like a playoff with with 92 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 3: how much guys are getting paid, which it's not the case, 93 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 3: but it's pretty wild. I mean, I think Cousins has 94 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: made over with three hundred million whatever it is. Daniel 95 00:04:53,720 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 3: Jones is following close behind this contract. We'll put him 96 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: somewhere in the ballpark of total career earnings if he's 97 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: able to earn out you know what is slated in 98 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 3: this contract, two hundred and fifty eight million ELI. 99 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: He's already up to two fifty eight after. 100 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 3: This with this, with this contract now guaranteed, wise he'd 101 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 3: be over two hundred million Jesus, which is kind of 102 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 3: wild to think about because outside of his rookie year 103 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: and then you'd say half of last season, and maybe 104 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 3: you'd say there was a decent year in there too 105 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 3: where he was able to get the Giants to re 106 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 3: up him. Then that's been it. I mean he has 107 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 3: been able to time he's been able to timely play 108 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 3: well enough to get paid every single time. And I 109 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: don't know if we started listing off starting quarterbacks in 110 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 3: the NFL, I honestly don't know if he'd be considered 111 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: in the top half of the league. 112 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: To play. If you want to go through a list, 113 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm in. Okay, all right, let's do it. All right, 114 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: So I'll give you a quarterback. You tell me if 115 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: you take them over Daniel Jones. Do we have any 116 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: game show music here? We've got a live studio band. 117 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: No stone unturned here expense wise on this show, we 118 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: basically took Levar's salary and we put it towards a 119 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: band for the three days here in studio with him out. 120 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: All right, So Josh Allen, Josh Allen or Daniel of. 121 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 3: Course, not I mean Josh Allen over him. 122 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, Malik Willis brand new quarterback for the Dolphins. Or 123 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. 124 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 3: Well, let's do this. Let's go based on twenty twenty five, 125 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: because we don't know what's gonna happen in twenty twenty six. 126 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So Tua or Daniel Jones. 127 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I think two has been more productive, hasn't he. Yeah, 128 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 3: I think in order to get a tally, because you're 129 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 3: not going out about this in the right way, can 130 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 3: we get like some of the guys, because you're really 131 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: going on a haphazard way. Let's get some of the 132 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: top guys out of the way. So you're not gonna 133 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: say Mahomes. You're not gonna say Alan, You're not gonna 134 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 3: say Matt Stafford Fair, Yeah, lookay, Dak Prescott, Drake May, Trevor, 135 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: Lawrence Williams, Justin Herbert Baker May, Like I'm not going 136 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 3: to take him over any of these guys, right. That's 137 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 3: Jordan Love, not gonna take him over him. Aaron Rodgers 138 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: wouldn't take him over him, Jalen Hurts, not gonna take 139 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 3: him over him. C J. Stroud I wouldn't take him over. 140 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: I wouldn't take Daniel Jones over c J. Stroud. So like 141 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 3: what Jared Goff, I'd take Jared Goff over at Daniel Jones, 142 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 3: Drake May, I'd take Drake May over at Daniel Jones. 143 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 3: I'd take Sam Donald over Daniel Jones. Like we're getting 144 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: to the point where we're now probably somewhere and you're 145 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: at You're at fifteen, right there, there you go. Yeah, 146 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson didn't even say him. I wouldn't obviously take 147 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 3: you know, so they're sixteen. So now we're in the 148 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: bottom half of the league. So now you can go 149 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 3: on with your list. 150 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: You said to what Tua, Well, I mean there's no 151 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: not even a need to do it now. I mean 152 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: because I think that because if you look at it Tua. 153 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: I can understand the argument because people look at the 154 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: low lights for Tua, but the highs for Tua have 155 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: been way higher than Daniel Jones. 156 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: I would also say that the lows are more injury 157 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 3: about it. I mean, it's not like Daniel Jones hasn't 158 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 3: had awful games too. Like the concern with two is 159 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: always just injury. But when he plays, he usually plays 160 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: decently well and he's usually able to win. I mean, 161 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: I would say this, let's be controversial. I look at 162 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: Gino Smith. Guo Smith has had better seasons than Daniel Jones. 163 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: Now everyone's going to look back last year at Las Vegas. 164 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: Yeah all problem, Yeah the taste, Okay, well go put 165 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones on that team. See how he performed. 166 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: No, I agree. I agree, And I think that when 167 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: you mentioned, you know, he's twenty eight years old, he's 168 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: you know, when this deal is all said and done, 169 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: you know he'll be thirty, and you know he will have, 170 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, potentially made two hundred and fifty something million dollars. 171 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: And it really just is a timing thing with him. 172 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: He was drafted high, and you know, contract year, whatever 173 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: you want to call it, he ended up being on 174 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: teams where he had all the leverage, and even in 175 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: this one, and I know Pete Prisco was thrown out. 176 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: The idea, you know, go out and get Kyler Murray, 177 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: who reportedly is meeting with the Vikings later on today. 178 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: Go out and get Kyler Murray paying one point two 179 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: million or whatever the low number is, because you know, 180 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: Arizona's on the hook for the rest, and then let 181 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones walk. I just don't think Indianapolis wanted to 182 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: go through it again. They've gone through so many quarterbacks 183 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: since Andrew Luck left, like everything has been a stopgap quarterback. 184 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: They thought they had the answer here, They thought they 185 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: had the answer there. Anthony Richardson was brought in. They 186 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: used a high draft pick on him. That was a 187 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: complete disaster. They finally had some stability last year, and 188 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: through the first half of the season, they're the best 189 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: team in the league, a really, really good team, and 190 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: then it got a little shaky, and then he got injured. 191 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: But I just think they looked around and Daniel Jones 192 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: found himself in an advantageous situation again where timing wise, 193 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: everything lined up for and he ends up getting two 194 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: years in eighty eight million coming off achille surgery. 195 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: I think what's interesting about it too, is he signed 196 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 3: the extension with the Giants in March of twenty twenty three. 197 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 3: That was when Brian Dable was the head coach, and 198 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 3: I want to say they moved off from Jones after 199 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: that year. Is that correct? 200 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, yeah, because twenty twenty four he finished up 201 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: for Maybe it was the following year, No, twenty twenty 202 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: four he finished up in Minnesota. So last year was 203 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: with Indianapolis. So yeah, it was pretty quick. Yeah, they 204 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: pulled the plug pretty quick. 205 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 3: It was. It was kind of a pretty quick plug. 206 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,359 Speaker 3: And I feel like, just to compare the two situations, 207 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 3: the Giants were in a bit of, I want to say, 208 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: a dire spot, but obviously they moved on from Brian 209 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: Dables soon after that, and now you look at the 210 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 3: Indiapolis Colts, Chris Ballard's got to win. I think Shane 211 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: Stiken feels like he has to win. And I feel 212 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 3: like this decision was born out of saying he played 213 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 3: great the first half of the year. Yes, he's coming 214 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 3: off an injury, but what's our other option, Like, we 215 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 3: don't really have another option. We have to sign him 216 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 3: to this deal in order to give us a shot 217 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 3: of what we feel like we get built off of 218 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 3: last year, and give us a shot to retain our 219 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 3: jobs because otherwise, like I mean, Ballard for sure, I 220 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 3: think is the one that's probably on the hot seat 221 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 3: if this doesn't work, because ultimately it's his decision. He's 222 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 3: the general manager. He's signing Daniel Jones to this deal, 223 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 3: and he's the one who's built the roster. But if 224 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 3: you look at that track record too, that's been unfortunately 225 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 3: how it's worked out for teams that have been in 226 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 3: this position where they've extended Daniel Jones, usually it's ended 227 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 3: up in the in the head coach getting fired. 228 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: What is the because you've done games with the Colts, 229 00:11:54,800 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: what is the feedback of whether it's Stike in, whether 230 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: it's Chris Ballard. It does feel like Ballard's been there 231 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: a really long time. 232 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 3: Like's they have not won a division title since Chris 233 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 3: Ballard's been there, And I think that's what's kind of 234 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 3: flown under the radar is you know, ultimately you can 235 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: point to the coaches, you can point to the quarterbacks, 236 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 3: but there's also someone who's in charge of the roster. 237 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: And this roster has at times had some players, but 238 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 3: I don't know that we've ever said it's built up 239 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 3: to the point of some of the others, even within 240 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 3: the division, Like when you look at Houston's roster, you 241 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 3: look at Jacksonville's roster and the amount of talent first 242 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 3: round picks, it feels different when you compare the two. 243 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 3: So that's where I think there's a bit of a 244 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 3: frustration is the guy who's been in the general manager 245 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 3: since he's taken over, they have yet to win a 246 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 3: division title and they have yet to been able to 247 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: solve the quarterback spot. So here's another opportunity a guy 248 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 3: who again played well for half the season last year 249 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 3: before getting hurt, and now they're investing back into it. 250 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that like this isn't the right decision, 251 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: It's just this has been the history with Daniel Jones 252 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 3: side of these deals with the teams he's played for, 253 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 3: and as we kind of laid out, and maybe Colts 254 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 3: fans would disagree, maybe you'd take him over some of 255 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: the quarterbacks that we had discussed and talked about, but 256 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 3: I wouldn't, you know. I think we've seen enough now 257 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 3: to kind of know where he's at. And last year 258 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 3: was a great example of right fit, right environment with 259 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 3: Shane Stichin and how that team operated. But we also 260 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 3: only saw for half the season. You know, we don't 261 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 3: know what that second half the season would have been like, 262 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 3: if they made it to the playoffs, what that would 263 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: have looked like. There's a lot of big question marks 264 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 3: still surrounding Daniel Jones. And look, maybe he's going to 265 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 3: be like Sam Darnold where he can now use that 266 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 3: opportunity for whatever he learned in Minnesota, similar to Sam 267 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 3: where he's able to kind of take off now. But 268 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 3: it feels like that's what they're betting on an indie. 269 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 3: They're betting on that the first half of what we 270 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 3: saw last year, and we're going to see an entire 271 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 3: season of that then into the playoffs, and that honestly 272 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 3: might be what they need to do in order for 273 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: chrispar to remain as the general manager. 274 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: I just think it's it's risky from the standpoint of 275 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: not only the history of Daniel Jones, but he is 276 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: coming off that injury, and you know, he Kirk Cousins 277 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: didn't seem like and I know he's Kirk Cousins was 278 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: at an advanced age, but he didn't seem like he 279 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: was the same coming off that injury. Daniel Jones a 280 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: more mobile quarterback. I just wonder what that looks like, 281 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: you know, following the Achilles and and the stuff that 282 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: happened with him. And so that that's where I look 283 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: at this and I go, all right, man, like a 284 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: two year deal, you're giving him a lot of money. 285 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: He's got, you know, the sixty million dollar injury guarantee 286 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: and whatever attached to it. But I don't know what 287 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: if a He's going to be fully ready to go 288 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: when the season opens, and then what that looks like 289 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: for them, like maybe you're not going to maybe that 290 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: first half of last season is the peak of Daniel 291 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: Jones and and This is just going to be a 292 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: roll the dice and it might cost some people some jobs. 293 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: Two things I think to your point, there definitely is 294 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 3: some concern and looking at Cousins O their cousins was older, 295 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: and I think that injury is harder to come off 296 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: of a little bit, you know, for a guy like 297 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 3: him at that age. However, Cousins is a pocket passer. 298 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 3: You know, He's a guy that when he drops back, 299 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: he's not going to move off that spot. 300 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: You know. 301 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: He is your traditional pocket passer that every defense talks about. 302 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: Move him off the spot, move him off the spot, 303 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: because he's not gonna be as accurate of a quarterback. 304 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 3: And so he falls in that category. Daniel Jones is not. 305 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones is very athletic. He's very capable of impacting 306 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: the game with his legs, which will make this not 307 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: only is scheme interesting, but what the passing game looks 308 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 3: like even off of that. You know, are they going 309 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: to move the pocket with him? You know, how well 310 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 3: is he going to move, you know, getting in and 311 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: out of the pocket. So there's a number of things 312 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: that I think it could potentially change, and it may 313 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 3: take some time before he feels confident and comfortable with it. 314 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 3: You know. One of the hardest things I think about 315 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 3: a non contact injury, and that was what Daniel Jones suffered, 316 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 3: is it wasn't like from a hit. You don't have 317 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 3: to blame it on the way a guy landed on you, 318 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: way you felt something else. You lose confidence in your 319 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 3: body's ability to respond. And that's a scary thing for 320 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: an athlete because every time you run out there, you 321 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 3: feel like that freak accident could happen again, and you 322 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: don't know how to necessarily prepare your body to avoid that. 323 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 3: You've got just all these questions running in your mind, 324 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 3: wondering like when's the next time it's gonna happen. So 325 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 3: there's gonna be a mental hurder for sure for him 326 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 3: to get over. There's gonna be a manner in which 327 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: they're going to try to implement him back into the offense, 328 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 3: and we'll see what that looks like. But I look 329 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 3: at this and just say, he's a little bit younger, 330 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 3: so that plays to his advantage. But Kirk Cousins would 331 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 3: have told you, and I think the coaching staff there 332 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 3: in Atlanta, you know, said as well, he really his 333 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 3: first year back from It was not one hundred percent. 334 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 3: You know, couldn't really step in and get into throws 335 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 3: as much. Didn't feel as comfortable with it, and it 336 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 3: showed in his play. Now, you know, coming in this 337 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 3: past season, different story. But again that's going to be 338 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 3: the concern for Daniel Jones is they're paying him to 339 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 3: be the guy. And I don't want to say make 340 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 3: or break year, but let's just call it a big 341 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 3: year for Chris Ballard and Coe, and I'm not sure 342 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 3: he's going to be the same player physically. You know, 343 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: that's a legit concern. 344 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: By the way, I was looking back at since Andrew 345 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: Luck retired, a different quarterback has led the Colts and 346 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: touchdown passes every single year. So you had Jacoby Brissette, 347 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, Carson Wentz, Matt Ryan Gardner, Minshew, Joe Flacco, 348 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: and then Daniel Jones. So it's literally been a revolving door. 349 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: And I get to I had to be honest with you, man, 350 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz his year in twenty twenty one was way 351 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: better than what I remembered it like that was a 352 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: you know, he threw for over thirty five hundred yards 353 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: twenty seven touchdowns, seven interceptions, and I think what marred 354 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: that season for Carson Wentz and you and I were 355 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: working together at that time. That was when the Colts 356 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: needed to beat Jacksonville right the final week of the season, 357 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: and the fans dressed up as clowns. They had a 358 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: clown out because that was the year they fired urban 359 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: Meyer with a couple of games left and the Colts 360 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: went in there were favorites and lost, and I think 361 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: that marred how everybody viewed Carson Wentz's time there with Indianapolis. 362 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: But if you actually look back the numbers, he wasn't bad. 363 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 3: Well, the issue really came down to this. You were 364 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 3: so hard on him for having that thing on the 365 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 3: back of his neck. 366 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: Oh that was just repulsive. Yeah that was and it wasn't. 367 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 3: Know if it was just an ingrown hair of what 368 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 3: was going on, but you could not get over it. 369 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 3: You kept talking about it the entire season. 370 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: Like the back of his neck looked like the surface 371 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: of Mars. He had he had these like either ingrown 372 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: hairs or pimples or I don't know if if his 373 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: helmet was riding low and it was just agitating his skin. 374 00:18:54,800 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: But the guy had just zitbrail from outer space all 375 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: over the back of his neck, and they would just 376 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: do these close ups on it. You know, Carson Carson 377 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: Wentz recovering from whatever injury it was, and they're doing 378 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: this close up on him and it's like, you know, 379 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: he's got like a little microwaveable di giorno on the 380 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: back of his neck, and people are like just trying 381 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: to ignore that and focus on the injury they're discussing, 382 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: is his arms in a sling. It's like, dude, we're 383 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: not talking about his arm in a sling. We're trying 384 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: to figure out who spilled ragou on that guy's hair 385 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: and let it drain all over the back of his head. 386 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 3: All right. If anything, it looked like a volcano ready 387 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 3: to explode, like with a strong wind. Had they played 388 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 3: outdoors that yellow headed Oh yeah, just in the wind. 389 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 3: We've all been there, Like you've seen somebody walks over 390 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 3: with the yellowhead and you're like, gosh, I just want 391 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 3: to pop that thing like. 392 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: A dog sticking his tongue out the window and the 393 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: car behind him is just catching all the shaftfel Yeah, 394 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: strong gots to win. That thing's opening up. God's gross, 395 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: but had a pretty decent year and that wasn't good enough. 396 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: So another one and done for the Colts. But at 397 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: least they've got some some you know, somebody with some 398 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,719 Speaker 1: familiarity there for year two is Daniel Jones's back. So 399 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: that's a good good news for Indianapolis, real good news. 400 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 3: I don't know what brag you had to do with 401 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 3: anything there. 402 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: Uh well, it's just good. Like his neck, it's gross, dude, 403 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: Like they probably find a picture of it somewhere. Lorraina 404 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: seems like one of those types that likes poppings. It's though. 405 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 3: She would hop the fence. They're like, oh, no, a 406 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 3: streaker and she's like, no, I'm just gonna pop that. 407 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: I got it. I got it. 408 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 5: I'm not saying I enjoy it, but like there's a 409 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 5: little bit of satisfaction out of it, for sure. I 410 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 5: do have a friend who likes watching videos of people 411 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 5: popping sits. Have you seen those those viral ones where 412 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 5: they get like those really deep ones that's gross and 413 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 5: like a mile long. 414 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: You would need you would need a crescent wrench to 415 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: get the one on the back of Wentz's neck. It 416 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: was disgusting. 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And apparently they're 464 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: not really worried about every high school reunion across the country. 465 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: They're not worried about everybody's you know, trying to get 466 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: together and get in town the Wednesday before Thanksgiving to 467 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: celebrate the holiday. Because the NFL is now considering playing 468 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: a game the night before Thanksgiving now too, all right, 469 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: so they've already got the Thanksgiving games, they've already got 470 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: Black Friday games. The NFL is now talking about the 471 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: Wednesday before Thanksgiving to play. 472 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 3: It's a maction, man, that's a mactory. You can't take 473 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 3: over that part of the schedule, come on now. 474 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: So it's just like, I mean, look, I love the 475 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: end they try to. 476 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 3: Take up this timeslot. I'm boycotting from that just I 477 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 3: don't want to see an NFL game on that particular night. 478 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 3: It's encroaching on the college football schedule. Now, let me 479 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 3: just say this, is it because they feel like there's 480 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 3: a great opportunity there for ratings or is this more 481 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 3: about just trying to make sure the NFL, you know, 482 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 3: showcase itself as the professional league. 483 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: Look, I get the Christmas transition to want to put 484 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: games on Christmas because they're like, you know what, there's 485 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: an opportunity there. There's a lot of people home, a 486 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: lot of people that you know, want to watch. We 487 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: can we can take over this and dominate that and 488 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: NBA screw you. I get all that. Like that totally 489 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: makes sense. But it's not as if you're void of 490 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: football during the Thanksgiving holiday weekend. Like you got games 491 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: on Thursday, you got Black Friday. You've really got a 492 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: bookend Thanksgiving now too. And I guess we should have 493 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: seen this coming up. I never I never thought that 494 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: this would have been the approach. I would have just 495 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: assumed that, hey, you know, all you gotta do is 496 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,239 Speaker 1: get to Thursday. You're gonna have multiple games, and then 497 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: you've got the game following Thanksgiving, and then we've got 498 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: the weekend to have a bunch of games. And instead 499 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: they're just gonna throw out, all right, well we'll just 500 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: take Wednesday too. I mean, basically the way the schedule 501 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: would look, and this according to Jonathan Jones of CBS, 502 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: the schedule would look like this. On Sunday, November twenty second, 503 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: you'd have your regular Sunday slate of games. You'd have 504 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: Monday Night football. The next day, they'd give you Tuesday off, 505 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: all right, so hey, we're gonna take a break here. 506 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: Everybody enjoy Tuesday. And then Wednesday, on Thanksgiving Eve, you'd 507 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: have a game. Thanksgiving, you'd have three games. Black Friday 508 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: you would have one or two games. No games on 509 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: Saturday because that you know, that'll be Michigan, Ohio State. 510 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: We know where you'll be. And then Sunday will be 511 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: your regular slate of games, and then Monday they'll give 512 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: you a game. At that point, why don't you just 513 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: take the whole week, Like, why don't you just let's 514 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: spread this out, just like put a Tuesday game on, 515 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: take one of those three games you got on Thanksgiving 516 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: and just put it on Tuesday. If we're going this far, 517 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: just do the whole week. Do it as a trial run. 518 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: You were talking about this during COVID, once teams started 519 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: figuring out people were going to watch on any day 520 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: of the week because it's the NFL. Let's just go 521 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: all the way with this, because the fact that this 522 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: comes out that they're thinking about doing. It just tells 523 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: me it's going to happen. And I don't think it 524 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: stops here. I think eventually there's going to be a 525 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: full blown takeover. 526 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 3: Well I don't know about a full blown takeover, but 527 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 3: I do wonder how the partnership with ESPN plays a 528 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 3: role in all of this. You know, ESPN had invested 529 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 3: heavily into two sports up until recently with kind of 530 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 3: this I want to call it merger, but you know, 531 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 3: buying a portion of the NFL media rights. No excuse 532 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 3: me about media companies. It used to be college football 533 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 3: and it was the NBA, like that was the two 534 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 3: sports they invested heavily into. And then now that they've 535 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 3: invested into the NFL, it feels a bit as if 536 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 3: they've they've pivoted some And I wonder at one point 537 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 3: and if there is anyone advocating for college football, which 538 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 3: there's not. There's not one, you know, overseeing body to 539 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 3: all of this, whereas the NFL obviously Roger Cadell speaks 540 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 3: for all thirty two teams. There's no one out there 541 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 3: kind of looking to protect what is the best interest 542 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 3: of college football. And one of the reasons why I 543 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 3: feel like, you know, the NFL game has presented so well, 544 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 3: is you have so many different networks and perspectives that 545 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 3: are presenting that sport to everyone, and they're able to 546 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 3: kind of control it too, because the NFL is so powerful. 547 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 3: But with college football and this whole thing kind of 548 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 3: flying off the rails with no one helping to guide it, 549 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 3: it allows then a network who's got the entire college 550 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 3: football playoff at this point or at least control of it, 551 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 3: to now not put it at the forefront because that's 552 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 3: not their main objective. You know, ESPN's main objective now 553 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 3: is making sure they highlight the NFL, and you know 554 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 3: they're they're walking step in step with what the NFL 555 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 3: wants to do from a scheduling standpoint, not college football. 556 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 3: That's an afterthought. You know, if you had more parties 557 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 3: involved and you might say, well, hey, they're the same 558 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 3: parties that are involved in the NFL too, Well that's fine, 559 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 3: but at least all those different networks that are putting forth, 560 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 3: whether it's college football games at that point in the season, 561 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 3: which mind you, are more important than than the NFL 562 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 3: games at that point. You know, when college football they 563 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 3: play less games, So you can make the case that 564 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 3: every single game is more important than you know any 565 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 3: of the you know, seventeen now eighteen in the future 566 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 3: regular seat and get your regular season games the NFL plays. 567 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 3: But at the end of the season right there, like 568 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 3: you're talking about potential games for teams to play for 569 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 3: a Alford's championship, teams to play into the playoff, all 570 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: that's going on at that particular weekend. 571 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: The main event that weekend is Michigan Ohio State without 572 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: an NFL a college football I don't want to hear 573 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: anybody say anything different. 574 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 3: No, and I think most people would tell you too, 575 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 3: like that's rivalry weekend. That's a weekend where I'll be 576 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 3: quite frank, I don't care what's going on in the NFL. 577 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 3: I don't like, there's not one game that's going to 578 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 3: change the rest of the year for one fan base 579 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 3: versus another, not for bragging rights or anything else. And 580 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 3: there's probably some fans who are purely NFL fans who disagree, 581 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 3: who don't have a college football to tie to. But 582 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 3: that's a huge weekend in the context of every alma 583 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 3: mater for college football. And again my concern is that 584 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 3: ESPN is not going to have college football's best interest 585 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 3: in mind. They're going to bow down to the NFL, 586 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 3: and they're not going to protect the second biggest sport 587 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 3: in this country, which is college football, which is still growing. 588 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 3: And so that's my issue with seeing all of this is, 589 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 3: you know, I feel like the NFL, now with their 590 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 3: partnership with ESPN, is just going to walk all over 591 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 3: the college football schedule and ESPN is going to do 592 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 3: anything about it. You know, at least for college football. 593 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 3: Some of the other networks have tried to protect their 594 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 3: assets and when they are playing those games and when 595 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 3: they're playing their NFL games, you don't see that quite 596 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 3: as much. So that's that's the greater issue here. You know. 597 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 3: We could talk about the NFL is trying to you know, 598 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 3: couple this into their Thanksgiving Day games, which which have 599 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 3: been huge. There's obviously, uh, you know, tremendous viewership for that, 600 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 3: but that's because that's been a day they've owned for 601 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 3: a long time. You know, this to me, it's unnecessary. Like, again, 602 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: I keep going back to Mark Cuban's quote, is the 603 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 3: pig getting too fat? And I do think we're getting 604 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 3: to that point with the NFL well, and maybe it's 605 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 3: partly testing it out to see, but I would rather 606 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 3: see them work in different games throughout the course week 607 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 3: during the regular season, but not on holidays, like, not 608 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,719 Speaker 3: on this particular week, not around this time, doesn't make 609 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 3: as much sense. 610 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: I just like I said, I could understand the Christmas 611 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: switch because you hadn't done that before. There was nothing, 612 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: you know, really in the vicinity of it. And but 613 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: this one, dude, you got enough going on that week. 614 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: It's okay to take Tuesday and Wednesday off, Like it's okay, 615 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: it's okay, you don't have a game on Tuesday and Wednesday. 616 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: You've got three on Thanksgiving. Like I remember what it 617 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: used to just be two. Why there would just be 618 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: two games and you would have your twelve thirty Eastern kick, 619 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, whether it was the Lions or the Cowboys, 620 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: and then you'd have that and then you'd have the 621 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: evening off. Now they've taken that evening, so now you've 622 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: got you know, it's not like these games are going 623 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: head to head. They stagger the whole day. So if 624 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: it's a three hour football game at minimum, you've got 625 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: nine hours of football on Thanksgiving. That should be enough. 626 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: Now we gotta have Black Friday. Okay, fine, it's Amazon, 627 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: people are shopping. I get all that. I understand the 628 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: tie to it, get all that. But then it's like, 629 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,719 Speaker 1: now let's just take Wednesday. Okay, So then what are 630 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: you gonna take. You're gonna take Sunday off? No, that's 631 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: the regular slate of games. Also, we've got It's just 632 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot, man, and I and I and I 633 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: get it. There's gonna be a market for it, and 634 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: it'll they'll probably sell to a streaming service. Uh, somebody 635 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: will pay an absorbitant amount of money to get that game, 636 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: whether it's Peacock or Netflix or somebody like that. And 637 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: once the NFL knows they can make money from a 638 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: streaming service and have that done, I think this is 639 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: just a foregone conclusion. I think it's gonna happen. I'm 640 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: not crazy about it, but I think the NFL just 641 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: sees this as another opportunity to take over. Like it's 642 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: just it's kind of wild. But yeah, there's nothing and 643 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: at that at that time of the season, what week 644 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: is it in the NFL? But like week eleven, week twelve, 645 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: something like that, Like, dude, you got a whole. You 646 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: got six more games to go. Nothing that weekend is 647 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: going to impact the outcome of the NFL season. Like no, 648 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: Like you're like, don't have the point to where teams 649 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: are tanking yet for the most part, Like it's so 650 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: nothing that's happening that weekend, which is why dude, you've 651 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: got every the Iron Bowl is that weekend, You've got 652 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: the game, like, you've got all of those major college 653 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: football games, and now it's you know, the NFL is 654 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: going to try and going to hijack away the Thanksgiving week. 655 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 3: So I was also thinking for a scheduling standpoint, I mean, 656 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 3: two of those teams they'll I'll be coming off a bye. 657 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 3: I mean, how else you going to fit that in there? Yeah? 658 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: That's uh. 659 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 3: I mean you could have made the excuse like if 660 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 3: teams are playing Thursday night games, you know that that 661 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 3: week prior, you know, playing them then on a Wednesday 662 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 3: would be fine, But now you're talking about Tuesday night. 663 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 3: That's not enough rest time. At least I wouldn't I 664 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 3: wouldn't want that. I mean most teams coming off Thursday 665 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 3: night games end up having a buye you know that, 666 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 3: Like they'll play that game and then they kind of 667 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 3: have some rest before then playing a Sunday game the 668 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 3: following week. So from a scheduling standpoint, it makes it 669 00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 3: that much more difficult too. But again, the NFL is 670 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 3: going to do what they feel like is in the 671 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 3: best interest of their bottom line. I just don't know 672 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 3: how moving to this time slot helps the bottom line 673 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 3: that much more. And you're talking about one game in 674 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 3: primetime on a Tuesday night before. I mean, I don't know, 675 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 3: it doesn't It doesn't make sense to me. 676 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: They're not even doing their traditional Super Bowl Champion opens 677 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: up at home on a Thursday night this year because 678 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: they've got a game in Australia. I think, so the 679 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: season is starting on the Wednesday before the Thursday game. 680 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: It does feel like there's a push for them to 681 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 1: take over Wednesdays, like that's what That's what it feels 682 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 1: like to me that they look at it and go, yeah, 683 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: Tuesday's cutting it close. But maybe we could squeeze in 684 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: some Wednesday games here, because it does feel like that's 685 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 1: that's happening a little more. 686 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 3: This is where Max needs a stand up yeah and 687 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 3: say get the hell out of here. This is our territory. 688 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 3: But again, that's ESPN. They don't care about college football 689 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 3: as much as they claim to. If they did, they'd care, 690 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 3: they'd care more about maction and the sacred ground that 691 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 3: it holds on their channel for their media right. But also, 692 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 3: but also, I believe those media rights are coming up. 693 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was just gonna say, when when's the MAC 694 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: media right deal come to an end? Because maybe, uh, 695 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: maybe there's a conversation we had. You could be you 696 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: could be the maction guy to try and maybe try. 697 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 3: I believe they are set to expire this year, so 698 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 3: I assume the negotiating window has been open. 699 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: All right, there we go. Yeah, it's what I'm talking about. 700 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 3: God, I hope it goes somewhere else. I can't think 701 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 3: someone else takes over maction and they continue to keep 702 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 3: highlighting it early in the week like this. 703 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear you do the show via 704 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: the Lucy app from a Bowling Green game. 705 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 3: When you're on the call, I'll be up there with 706 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 3: Eddy George. I'll be up there. You want to send 707 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 3: me up there Toledo standing the rockets, I'll be there. 708 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite things to do. Early on 709 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: you watch the MAC and it's like, yeah, you know, 710 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: the weather is still pretty nice out here, and just 711 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: some random, random city and on a weeknight in the 712 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: Midwest and it's pouring snow like just you know, in November, 713 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: like it's fun. Nor in Illinois. Watch a bunch of 714 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: Northern Illinois games, Toledo Bowling, Green Miami of Ohio. That's fun. 715 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: That's fun, good weeknight stuff. During the fall season. It 716 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on 717 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Hey are you in the video games? 718 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: Celebrities are just a good time. 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Up next, here on the show, 723 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: we are going to hand out an award, and it's 724 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 1: yours right here on FSR. 725 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 726 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 2: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and 727 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 2: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific 728 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 729 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio 730 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming off top 731 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: of next hour a little over ten minutes from now, 732 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: We're going to catch up with our guy Albert Breer, 733 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: all sorts of stuff to discuss, all the drama surrounding 734 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: Max Crosby. There's still some free agents available, Kyler Murray 735 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 1: still out there, all the usual NFL drama that's currently 736 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: going on. Ab will stop by here a Thursday tradition 737 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: on the show, coming up top of next hour a 738 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: little over ten minutes from now. But right now, it 739 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: is time to hand out an award on this show. 740 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 1: It's time for our Express Pros Pro of the Week 741 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: and the Pro the Week goes too. Cooper has It 742 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: tries to spin away from Drew, who has it. 743 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 7: Bam has it, get it up, threw it down with 744 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 7: the right hand hammer to be the finest single game 745 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 7: score in the history of the Miami Heat. He got up, 746 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 7: He threw it down for one of, if not the 747 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 7: most delicious Bam sandwich of his. 748 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 8: Career, and quickly into band. He's got space, head down, 749 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 8: Spins puts it up, and BAM's going to the line again. 750 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 8: Bam on a bio is a complete monster. 751 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 7: And really get the ball into bashand the right way 752 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,760 Speaker 7: only will stable. 753 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 9: It has more points in an NBA game in association 754 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 9: history than Bamota Bayo, who has eighty two eighty three 755 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 9: for Pamauta Bio thirty six. 756 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 3: Of forty three from the line. 757 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: Both records Heat Radio Network on the call. That's right. 758 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: Congratulations to bam out of Bio eighty three points and 759 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: your Express Pros pro of the week. Don't let employee 760 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: turnover slow down business. Express Employment Professionals finds the talent 761 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: you need to keep productivity on track from the warehouse 762 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: to the front office. Express staffs all jobs is at 763 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: expresspros dot com today, So congratulations. It's at least we 764 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: could do. Because there was a real negative angle taken 765 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: by Brady Quinn on the Bamouta bayo accomplishment of scoring 766 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: eighty three points, which I thought was disrespectful. The guy 767 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: should be celebrated. He only missed seven free throws and 768 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:05,439 Speaker 1: he took forty three. 769 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 3: So I don't know why you gready. I mean, there 770 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 3: is that part of his game that I do appreciate. 771 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 3: I mean, and I watched a cut up of all 772 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 3: of them. I watched a whole thirty six that he 773 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 3: made go right in the hoop, that kind of time, 774 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 3: one and a half minute compilation on social media, so 775 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 3: I watched all of it, but come on, man, I mean, 776 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 3: it's just. 777 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: It's also the There's been a lot of people that 778 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: really were appalled at the criticism that it got, and 779 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: to those people, I say, sorry for expecting that things 780 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: be on the up and up in an athletic competition. 781 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Sorry about that. I didn't mean to be 782 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: so negative about the charades that were going on to 783 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: get a guy a record in which both teams were involved. 784 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. No, just continue on, continue on with the 785 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: circus tent. Next up, you know, Esposro will come out 786 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 1: on a unit cycle and juggle bowling pins and everybody 787 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 1: else is gonna that's fine, that that was on us. 788 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: We should celebrate him and stop being so negative. My apologize. 789 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 3: I could care less if someone's upset about us, you know, 790 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 3: saying that it doesn't feel as legitimate as some of 791 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 3: the ones in the past. I'm sorry. Look at the stats, 792 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 3: look at how it happened. You'd be hard pressed to 793 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,959 Speaker 3: find anyone with a brain cell that wouldn't come away 794 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,760 Speaker 3: thinking that way unless they're just like a blindly NBA 795 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 3: Miami Heat fanboy and that's how they want to handle it. 796 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 3: So that's who you are. That's fine, do you you know, 797 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 3: you could be excited about it. I think it's awesome 798 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 3: for him. He's a great guy. He's a really good player. 799 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 3: But don't act like it stacks up the same as 800 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:41,919 Speaker 3: Kobe's did or Will Chamberlains did. 801 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 1: By the way, I remember you remember Ricky Davis and 802 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: he can play for the Calves back in the day. Yeah, 803 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: he played for the Celtics as well too, and he 804 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: was a good six man. He was in the league 805 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: for a while. Remember, he got criticism because when he 806 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 1: was on the Calves, he intentionally missed a shot so 807 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: he could get his own rebound to get a triple double. 808 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: And everyone's like, oh my god, how could he do that. 809 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: It's like, well, this is kind of the same thing, 810 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: Like you're manipulating what's happening in a game so you 811 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: can go chase stats and go chase a record. So 812 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: for people that you know, are upset with some of 813 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: the criticism, we got current NBA players sticking up for him. 814 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man, People just remember what the league was 815 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: back in the day and this didn't look anything like 816 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: it is what it is. Don't know what to tell you.