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Speaker 2: I am your host, Jeffrey Gorman. This is episode number

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Speaker 2: I want to connect with Colts greatness from years past,

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Speaker 2: Have been waiting for this for a long time. We

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Speaker 2: welcome in one of the greatest coaches in the NFL

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Speaker 2: College Football. I don't care. You can throw it in

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Speaker 2: Bruce Arians welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's great to be on guys, Thank you, coach.

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Speaker 2: I want to I'm a little ticked off at the NFL,

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Speaker 2: is a travesty right there, because if those nine victories

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Speaker 1: No, not at all, because that was Chuck's team. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was fortunate enough my first three years to

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I tell you, I just gotta We're gonna bounce

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they had just passed a new rule in the

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Speaker 2: There it is, and the rest is history. I love that.

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Speaker 2: Not many, not many coaches stick on the Paul Bear Bryant,

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Speaker 2: but I want to stay there for a minute. Not offensively,

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Speaker 2: not ex's and o's. But what did you learn and

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Speaker 1: Oh he was a master of personnel. Excuse me, he

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Speaker 1: I'm like, malboy, what are we doing? You know he

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Speaker 1: We go down the field. Score never questioned him ever again.

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Speaker 2: Really, what about how about when you had those five

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Speaker 1: No, No, back then, there was no five star three

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Speaker 1: He starts to start lineup and I said, Coach, why

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Hey, you got to take that information from the

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Speaker 2: what are those two things that you'll look for out

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Speaker 1: I call it grit. It's a combination leadership, courage, the

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for accuracy now, velocity, accuracy, and if a

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Speaker 2: Well, you showed that at uh what was it Mississippi

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Speaker 2: He ended up being all SEC, ended up playing Canadian

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Speaker 2: I want to get to the Indianapolis era and when

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Speaker 2: How did you and Peyton's gonna get mad if he

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Speaker 2: Interceptions right right, And you knew this guy was elite.

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Speaker 2: You took off for Cleveland, you said goodbye to Peyton

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna I could sit and talk to me

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Speaker 2: Little, Okay, I bet a few of those that disagree

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, So let's stay there. While we're there, you Chuck

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Speaker 2: and your family, those Arizona years, they were big they

433
00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:25,840
Speaker 2: were big out there, and you made such a huge

434
00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,679
Speaker 2: impact in the Arizona community. You still got friends and

435
00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,760
Speaker 2: family out there and whatnot and still keep in touch.

436
00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. My son still lives in Phoenix and has you know,

437
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,480
Speaker 1: a new granddaughter two months old, and we'll be traveling

438
00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,200
Speaker 1: back and forth more. But yeah, I got great, great

439
00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,200
Speaker 1: friends out there. You know, every time we have a

440
00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,920
Speaker 1: golf term, it's slow doves, that's Arizona people. Fourth of

441
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,920
Speaker 1: July here at our house is thirty Arizona people. And yes,

442
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,080
Speaker 1: it's always great. Uh, just just fantastic memories. You know.

443
00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,440
Speaker 1: We started our foundation in Arizona. Yeah, and it really

444
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 1: took off big. The people embraced us and and really

445
00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,400
Speaker 1: took care of it. We made it a minor impact

446
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,960
Speaker 1: in the situation for the kids in the Americopa County.

447
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:09,120
Speaker 2: Twenty thirteen, maybe fourteen. I may be off a year.

448
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 2: We go out there, the Colts play you in Arizona.

449
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 2: You almost hang fifty on us, And I said to

450
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 2: Tom Moore afterwards, why'd you keep scoring? He's like, wow,

451
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 2: I wanted to get to a hundred, but we couldn't.

452
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,480
Speaker 2: We didn't have enough time left on the clock. I

453
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 2: look over we're going to the airport. I look out

454
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 2: the bus window and of course there's Ba and Tom

455
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 2: Moore and the rest you The trunk is popped, the

456
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 2: coolers there, everybody's having a beer. Players are out there

457
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 2: and coaches as well, and you guys are giving the

458
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,879
Speaker 2: old salute to the bus. Have a good ride home.

459
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 2: That one stuck with me a while, Coach, because we

460
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,159
Speaker 2: just got like, had our lunch handed to us. And

461
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 2: I know you were over there kind of rubbing your

462
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 2: hands saying, well, it's kind of what I do.

463
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,720
Speaker 1: And just think, come on over, boys, you can have

464
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 1: a drink. It's okay. It's just winner lose we booze, you.

465
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 2: Know, win or lose we booze. I love it, Bruce.

466
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 2: I love talking with this stuff. But a huge part

467
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,400
Speaker 2: of your career is after you left Arizona, you go

468
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 2: and and you take Tampa Bay job, and people were like, wow,

469
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 2: Bba's back. Thank goodness, he's got to work with Jameis Winston.

470
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,959
Speaker 2: This is gonna be fun. Now. You put up a

471
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,919
Speaker 2: season your offense his for your first year in Tampa

472
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,640
Speaker 2: with over five thousand yards from Jameis Winston. Of course,

473
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 2: he went thirty three and thirty with TV's to interceptions

474
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 2: or whatever. But what was that like? Because you had

475
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 2: a quarterback that was talented like that, you knew you

476
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 2: could air it out with him, but the numbers were ridiculous,

477
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 2: Scott through the roof.

478
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I had Jamis in the tenth grade

479
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 1: in a little football camp, so I knew I knew

480
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 1: him very well, and it got really excited about taking

481
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 1: that job because I knew he was a good young team.

482
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 1: We thought the world of Jamis has worked, ethic is outstanding,

483
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, Byron Leftis just did an unbelievable job.

484
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: Because I get too much credit for that year, Byron

485
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 1: did it all. I mean I would have lost it totally.

486
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: I had to stay away a lot of times and

487
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 1: step back because I just I would rip him too hard, right,

488
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: And Byron just did a He had that steady hand

489
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,199
Speaker 1: with him and in the last couple of games, if

490
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: he didn't throw those picks six is to end the

491
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 1: games week fifteen and sixteen, we're probably sticking with him,

492
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 1: you know. But then we had then we had to

493
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 1: look behind door number two, and you never know what's

494
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 1: the high door number two. Never thinking it was gonna

495
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 1: be Tom Brady, you know, and then when when Tom

496
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: said he'd come, then we had to depart from Jamis.

497
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: But I love the kid. I love what he stands for. Man,

498
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 1: he's a great.

499
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 2: Kid, great stories. He's got great memories in you and

500
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 2: you putting up the you know, helping him getting over

501
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 2: five thousand yards. Not many quarterbacks can say that in

502
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 2: the NFL. Hell, he's still playing at a high level now,

503
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 2: the Brady years. I love this one because an assistant

504
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 2: coach of yours that will remain nameless, was out on

505
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 2: the golf course with you at Old Memorial. You're on

506
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 2: number nine. All of a sudden a phone call comes

507
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 2: in and Ba's golf cart and he says, hold on, boys,

508
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 2: I gotta take this. Uh huh uh huh uh huh okay, good,

509
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 2: hangs up the phone, You give the rest of the

510
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: assistant coaches a thumbs up, and then you go put

511
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 2: a three wood on the par five two putt for

512
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 2: a birdie. That was welcome to Tampa Bay, Tom Brady

513
00:22:59,200 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 2: day right there.

514
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: Tell me, baby, there was a lot of a lot

515
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: of emotion, a lot of adrenaline in that shot. I

516
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 1: promise you could not excite.

517
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: It he stepped out of three Wood once you got Brady.

518
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 2: I love it, But that whole thing came around. How

519
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 2: does your coaching change at that point? Or does it

520
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 2: because you have familiarity with Jamis from the year before,

521
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 2: obviously Carson being a veteran. Now you got arguably the

522
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 2: greatest of all time coming in and you two got

523
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 2: to get on the same page. Was that a fine line?

524
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: Was that a slippery slope for you just to kind

525
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 2: of get a relationship going with Tom first, or did

526
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 2: that happen in years past?

527
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: No, it really was brand new. You know. He was

528
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: always the adversary for Tom Warren Clyde and everybody. Oh

529
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: my god, we go we gotta like Brady. But Tom

530
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: makes it very, very easy. But you know, it was

531
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 1: such a crazy year when we first started talking. I said, Look,

532
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a whole lot easier for you to

533
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: learn our numbers and our system than twenty one guys

534
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: to learn I've been in yours. Yeah, it's hard. I

535
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 1: can't change these guys, cannot learn that. He's no problem.

536
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: But then COVID hits and we have no meetings, and

537
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 1: we have no spring practice, and we don't see each

538
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: other till training camp, and uh, now we're trying to

539
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: they're they're out at Yankee Stadium throwing the ball and

540
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: blame Gabbert, God bless him. He's putting in the offense

541
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 1: and Thomson receivers, Hey, hey, can we run it like this?

542
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: And playing with whatever he wants. He wanted a date,

543
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: run it a day, that's what he's comfortable with. Just

544
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: make sure he nerves hominology. We get the camp, you know,

545
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: there's no preseason games. All of a sudden, we got

546
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: a scrimmage. I'm like, he's never been in our stadium

547
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: and I hate tackling our own guys. I'm like, I'm

548
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 1: holding my breath. We got this pipe and noise that

549
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 1: they said it's gonna be this many decimals and everything

550
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 1: was brand new that year, and uh, we get off

551
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: to a pretty slow start seven and five, and uh,

552
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: but the team was very, very close, and we saw

553
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 1: it and uh, you know, a big game for us

554
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: was in Atlanta that you were down seventeen nothing and

555
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: a half. We come out and square every possession of

556
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 1: the second half and then it winning and never lose

557
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: them again. But uh, it took a while for Tommy

558
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: to get it and uh to get to break his

559
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: hole to some no risk and no biscuit stuff. You know,

560
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: I always talk about, you know, the fourth down planet

561
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: in Green Bay with a punt right now. Yeah, the

562
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: worst thing to do they get a field goal was

563
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: to be winning and he throws touchdown pass. They say

564
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 1: that stuff pretty good.

565
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 2: Man. The relationship that you have to have with the

566
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: guy of that caliber. Did you bite your tongue coach?

567
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 2: Did you did you find yourself not coaching the way

568
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: that you normally do, or hey, this is what you

569
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: this is what you get when you're talking when you're

570
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 2: playing under Bruce Arians because there has been I've heard

571
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 2: coaches say I've never heard anybody talk to Brady the

572
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: way that Bruce Arians has.

573
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was a great relationship, you know,

574
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: and again Byron was that great mediator. Yeah, you know,

575
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 1: and uh, you know when I talked to tom it

576
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: was more about the approach of what we're trying to do.

577
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: It's third and five, but if you get this matchup,

578
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: that's a touchdown. Yeah, you'd like to get first downs,

579
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: but we don't miss these touchdowns. And it took little

580
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: bit wild for that. But then as he got real

581
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: comfortable with the receivers, he just flourished in the offense.

582
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: Man, I'll tell you what, I was rooting so hard

583
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 2: for you that year. I mean with Clyde and Tom

584
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: on that on that staff that you put there, and

585
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 2: the way that you went out. I want to stay there.

586
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,479
Speaker 2: You hand picked your successor there and Todd Bowles. Uh,

587
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 2: that was something that's been I believe what I read

588
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 2: that's been in the back of your head for a

589
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 2: while as far as you picking your successor and how

590
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: that I how important that was to you. Is that true?

591
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: True? Very true? And you know I was having a

592
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: lot of back issues. I tore my achilles that year.

593
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 1: Ninety percent of my achilles. I had to wear these

594
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: damn high heel things and they blew, so I couldn't

595
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: stand on the silide. I'd sneak over and sit on

596
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: the bed and next to the quarterbacks exactly. I was

597
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: coaching them just to get off my back.

598
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: For a while.

599
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: I knew it's gonna be a problem to do it

600
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: another year, and uh, you know, we tried to go

601
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: back to back with the Super Bowl and didn't get it.

602
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: So for me, it was okay. When does the roomnew

603
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: will not in effect. So I'm gonna hang on till

604
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: I can definitely make sure Todd gets this job. And uh,

605
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: right after the owner's meetings, I actually left early and

606
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 1: uh and we made an announcement and Todd has done

607
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: a great jot've done everything I thought you would do.

608
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I'm so happy. And I'm still involved.

609
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: I'm a consultant with the Bucks. So and uh the

610
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: first year I kind of hung around too much. Players

611
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: were looking at me. I said, no, no, he's the head coach.

612
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

613
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: I got to get out of here. So now I play.

614
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: I never played golf in the fall. It's pretty nice.

615
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a that's a good deal. Bruce Area's

616
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 2: playing golf in the fall. I'll tell you and anybody

617
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 2: listen out there, if you know, if you know good golfers,

618
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 2: we're talking to one right now. Because this man can

619
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: stripe it. I promise you I played with him. So uh.

620
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 2: From from there, when you're talking about Tampa and you

621
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 2: talk about Todd Bowles, the inclusion part of you having

622
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: the staff around you, the female staff members, It didn't

623
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: matter what color you wear, what kind of hat you wore,

624
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,719
Speaker 2: it didn't matter like that. The inclusion that you have

625
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: and that mentality, where did that come from? Because you

626
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 2: were doing stuff on your staff that not many other

627
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 2: head coaches were doing, and quite frankly, you did it

628
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 2: and you didn't give a flip about it.

629
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, the having African American coordinators assistant

630
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: for three cordinator assistant a coach, but just the best

631
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: damn coaches I knew, you know, it just happened to

632
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: be African American. Now, some of the young guys that

633
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: were former players I thought would be great coaches, like

634
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: Byron getting them involved, bringing them up through that little

635
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: program we started with the with the fellowships, Larry Foot,

636
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: guys like that. That was by choice. The women that

637
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: door need to be knocked down, you know. And you

638
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: heard me talk about Dot Murphy, who was just this

639
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: year at at the super Bowl with Jennifer Welter and

640
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: that crew, and I seen her coach. So when I

641
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: was asking about I said, the best teachers I've ever

642
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: had were female, you know. And then this is just

643
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: a glorified teaching job. Just a million people watch you

644
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: give an exam, you know, and that they flunk, you

645
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: get fired. But other than that, it's just still about teaching,

646
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: you know. And so I was very very happy to

647
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: have ownership who was all on board, you know, Michael

648
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: Bidwell's great and Arizona Brand and Jennifer and then hiring

649
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: two full time. And I owe my wife that one

650
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: because I said I'm gonna hire two interns. She is, oh,

651
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: you hired two interns and throw them away again, not

652
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: be full time?

653
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: Amazing, You're right.

654
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: So I went to Darcy Keswick Glazier, Glazier, Castlewitch and

655
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: she was all for it.

656
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: Wow. I'll tell you what the fun part about that is,

657
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: as your career is known as that and you're giving

658
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: people chances whether regardless of skin color, race, creed, anything

659
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: like that, I think it's amazing that the impact that

660
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: women can have in this game. When we're talking, when

661
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 2: you and I aren't even here anymore, I'm talking about

662
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: being really in depth behind this scene because just like

663
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: you said, it's a teaching position and a lot of it,

664
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: there's a lot of which is on a lot of

665
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: staffs that haven't played a high level of football. They

666
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: just you know, open their ears and opened their eyes.

667
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, And uh, you know, and I look at

668
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: the ones who have persevered to it. You know when

669
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: they were playing football with the with the like Jennifer

670
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: and those girls were doing amazing glory and uh, you

671
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: know there's there's very very qualified coaches out there, and

672
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: you know, Tampa Bay, I'm real proud that we've started

673
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: this initiative where we're bringing twenty five different people for

674
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: for camp and then bring four more in for internship

675
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: turning training camp and maybe higher off of it. So

676
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: we get to build that pool of minority coaches that

677
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 1: we don't know maybe because you have people who know

678
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: bring them in. Hey, this guy's really sharp. You know

679
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: if Dad Loose was one of those guys I kind

680
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: of met at a clinic, started talking to a Millie

681
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: played duke played in the league for seven years, and

682
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: this cat's got it. Yeah, and he's gonna he's gonna

683
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: be a superstar in the league too.

684
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: Well, that's one feather that you're gonna have in your

685
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,959
Speaker 2: cat for a long time. Uh, Going quarterbacks, you can

686
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: talk to Baker Mayfield on the on the playing field

687
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: when you go out and see him in OTAs or

688
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: anything that goes in training camp. You can't stop coaching

689
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 2: is my point, if you're talking to a quarterback, you're coaching.

690
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I told him my some pist. I don't get

691
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: the coaching, man, I really I really wanted to coach that.

692
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: I love that kid. You know, I was with CBS.

693
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: I did a couple of Browns games and watching him

694
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: practice on Fridays getting after it. Uh that locker room.

695
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: Loved the guy, and I know he's been a great,

696
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: great fit for us. You know, it's gonna be hard

697
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: to follow Tom, but he had the moxy to follow town.

698
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got that Swiger. I love it. I'm talking

699
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: a few other things with your coach, Bill Belichick, coaching

700
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 2: in college. What's your thoughts on that? Something you could do?

701
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: No, I don't have patience. I don't have patience for

702
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: rookies freshman And if I recruit you, I expect you

703
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: to stay. I don't have to expect to recruit you

704
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: again next year and give you more money. Yeah, and

705
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: until college football science contracts and gets a salary cap.

706
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: I think he's going to hell.

707
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: Really is is the state of the NFL in good

708
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: hands right now? The way you see it going since

709
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: you left, Oh, I.

710
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: Think he's in fantastic shape. You got all these good

711
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: young quarter backs coming in more and more next year.

712
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: I think in next year's class coming are really good.

713
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: And uh so there's enough to go around now, you know.

714
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: And uh and the young ones they are, you know,

715
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: twenty eight to thirty two. God, they're fantastic, yeah, you know.

716
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: And uh, the running backs that are starting to come

717
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: into the leg everybody, every position is getting better and better,

718
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: you know. And uh so, yeah, I mean there's a

719
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: lot to be talked about that eighteenth game, sure, and

720
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: how we're gonna how we're going to manage that with

721
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: with two buys or switching Sunday games to Thursday, because

722
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of Thursday football. I don't care

723
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: what the so called injury report says. Right, We've got

724
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: a lot of guys can't play on Thursdays so because

725
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: they could play Sunday, but they can't play Thursday exactly.

726
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: And then last year with that Wednesday stuff, I think

727
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: that's getting crazy. TV's run a little bit too much

728
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: of it, but uh the fans love it. Man, it's

729
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: you can't get enough of it.

730
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: Can't get enough. And got throwing Europe in there too,

731
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: you know, those Europe huge man.

732
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, sooner or later there's gonna be a team.

733
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: Over there draining. Let's talk quarterbacks. Coach here in Indianapolis,

734
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: Dan Jones is brought in to give a competition to

735
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: the fourth overall pick from a few years back, Anthony Richardson.

736
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: When you look back at these two quarterbacks, and you know,

737
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: sitting in your position as a guru, you are give

738
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: me some of the things that you like and some

739
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: of the things that these guys struggle with.

740
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: Well, Daniel first win was against US, and he threw

741
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: some balls in there. I said, this Caus's can be special,

742
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: and he took off on a twenty yard run up

743
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: the middle to beat us. We actually didn't miss a

744
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: field goal, but I thought the kid had it. You know,

745
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: he's athletic, he's smart, accurate. I think he got the

746
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: hell beat out of him up there in New York

747
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: with that offensive line and not having the premier skill

748
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: players around him. So but I think he's a great talent. Anthony,

749
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: I think needed two more years of college. Okay, you know,

750
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: as a passer, not as an athlete. He's a great athlete,

751
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: but as a passer I didn't see him coming out

752
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: being able to beat anybody in two minutes and third

753
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: down and that's where you went and in fil If

754
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: you can't win third down a two minute, you're just

755
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: an average guy. And Uh, I don't care how good

756
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: you run. You don't run the ball in two minutes.

757
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: As a quarterback, you throw it and you command the game.

758
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: I think his growth this year is going to be huge.

759
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: If he can't make it the growth that I think

760
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: he can make and put the put the I think

761
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: he's going to put the work in. He's got a

762
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: great reputation as a hard worker. So it's but Daniel

763
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: pushing Daniel don't really push it.

764
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait. That's gonna be a good competition.

765
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: You got a special relationship A guy I know that

766
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: loves you and speaks highly of you and has done

767
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 2: that since your first day here in Indianapolis. Is Jim Irsay,

768
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: Colt's owner. Uh, if you could just talk about your

769
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 2: relationship with the boss man, the best man.

770
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: He's my guy and the love and I hate to

771
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: see him in that wheelchair. Uh. He that year we

772
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 1: had together when Chuck was sick was it was extremely special.

773
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: Then of course I got sick in Baltimore, and and

774
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: put they put me in the hospital, want to let

775
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 1: me coach the damn game. And first thing jim asked

776
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: was Chris there? And they said no, she was at

777
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: the hospital an hour and a half on his plane

778
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 1: in a limo and that plane set on the ground

779
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: waiting for me to get out of that hospital. And

780
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: I know what that costs, but it was Jimmy, and

781
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: Jimmy just checked on me every single day. And I

782
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: think the world of him, and so much fun at

783
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: his birthday party a couple of years ago down here

784
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: at the lake.

785
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 2: And that's great and.

786
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 1: Just just I think the world I as an owner

787
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 1: and a man.

788
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great lake acony down there. I'll tell you

789
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: what that's that's beautiful in that area that you live.

790
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: And I know golf is all around. I know football

791
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: misses you. I know us here in Indianapolis miss you.

792
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 2: And coach. As I said when we started this, you're

793
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame coach. You've earned that honor. And

794
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: you know, everybody that's worked with you has said the

795
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: same things about you. I've never heard one negative thing

796
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: about Bruce arians and I've been here twenty plus years,

797
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: So hats off to your partner, and I hope we

798
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 2: can catch up during this upcoming season talk about what's

799
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 2: going on on the field.

800
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: You got it, brother, for sure.

801
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: All right, Pruce saying, sir, appreciate.

802
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: It, Thank you, Bill. This should be played at I

803
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: vogu