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Speaker 1: Wow, what is up? Welcome to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Show. It's being your Man, NAMG Marcus

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Speaker 1: Grant and I'm fully vaccinated. I got my second shot

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Speaker 1: on Monday, So one step closer to normal things. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Big show, as we always do, we have obviously gone

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Speaker 1: through the NFL Draft last week. We had a mock

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Speaker 1: and how guys are sort of shaking out now that

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Speaker 1: they have homes. But we know that there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of you guys out there who are playing dynasty leagues,

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Speaker 1: who are playing debbie leagues, and who really want to

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Speaker 1: go a little bit deeper beyond just you know, the

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Speaker 1: guys that we saw in the first couple of rounds

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Speaker 1: come off the NFL draft boards. So to do that,

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Speaker 1: I got a guy who is on top of it,

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Speaker 1: who is one of the smartest guys when it comes

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Speaker 1: to this, who puts in the work, who look his

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Speaker 1: nickname is the c are of the playbook that tells

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Speaker 1: you everything you need to know. Uh. It is from

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Speaker 1: Football Game Plan, Emory Hunt. And it's been a couple

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Speaker 1: of years since I've had you on. It is way

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Speaker 1: too long I appreciate you taking some time. How you doing, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing fine. Man, I appreciate you. Man. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: feel like years. It feel like we talk every every year,

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Speaker 1: every summer. It's just as I'm stackin. You said that,

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Speaker 1: I know, No, it really not. I mean, I know

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Speaker 1: you know obviously we we chat via social media and

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Speaker 1: keeping up with what you're doing and everything. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it has been a couple of years that

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Speaker 1: you've actually been here, and uh, we should. We should

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Speaker 1: make the gap shorter if we can in the future.

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Speaker 1: But um, I wanted to just start kind of by

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Speaker 1: by talking to you because I know what you do

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Speaker 1: and I follow a lot of what you do. Um,

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Speaker 1: but for folks who don't know, explain a little bit

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Speaker 1: about football game plan and how it came to be.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's the one stop shop for the football fan.

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Speaker 1: We cover everything. If it involves a pig scam, we

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Speaker 1: got to cover from NFL college football, all levels of

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Speaker 1: college fook, all Canadian football overseas, that that played American football,

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Speaker 1: women's tackle football, high school, so it doesn't matter, we

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Speaker 1: cover it. And you know how we got started. It

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Speaker 1: was during the Vince Young draft how everything kind of

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Speaker 1: got rolling. Uh Me and a couple of friends of mine.

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Speaker 1: We're just upset at the commentary surrounding Vince shung as

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Speaker 1: if he couldn't play, as if we just didn't come

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Speaker 1: off watching the greatest game ever played, right, U huh.

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Speaker 1: And so instead of us sitting on the phone five

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Speaker 1: full year. So in two thousand seven we started football

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Speaker 1: because we released the article. We had different sections star website,

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Speaker 1: So that's how we got started. And then at O nine,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you get questions. I get questions. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I was. I was in Pasadene, I was at the

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Speaker 1: had no I had no doubts about it. Um. You

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Speaker 1: obviously you do a lot of scouting. I mean you

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Speaker 1: tremendous in that aspect in terms of the vision, getting

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Speaker 1: downhill accelerating. Now, Mitchell just does it forty times faster

429
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 1: than trade sermon. So I think he's gonna be a sleeper,

430
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,640
Speaker 1: one of these guys that we're gonna see in week

431
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 1: four And you look up, he got nine carries for

432
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 1: our husband thirty yards, Like, well, how the hell that happened?

433
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 1: But that's that's because he's flosive. And again he's another

434
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 1: one of these guys that that you know, you see

435
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,400
Speaker 1: this more so nowadays. Um, guys don't need volume. Uh,

436
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 1: you know, back in I hate to say it, but

437
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 1: back in by day, it'd be like if you just

438
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 1: give me thirty carriers, and now do you think back, like,

439
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: you know, why the hell you need thirty carriers to

440
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 1: be like when not these dudes just need three and

441
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 1: they're good to go because they're used to working in

442
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 1: the tandem. I think that you self these guys being uh,

443
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 1: you know, ready to go from day one in the NFL.

444
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 1: So you're getting a guy that's explosive. You're getting a

445
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 1: guy that's dynamic. You're getting a player that can beat

446
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 1: one on one coverage in the passing game going down field.

447
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 1: So you get someone that can help keep your offense

448
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 1: on pace. If he's your starter or if he's your

449
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 1: RB two, he's someone that can step in and the

450
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: offense doesn't miss a beach. So I like the fit

451
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 1: in San Francisco, and I love the player obviously because

452
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 1: he's dynamic. He can be a special teams age right away,

453
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 1: but also can be a guy that's that's gonna see

454
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 1: considerable action in the back field. Why is it do

455
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 1: you think that guys don't necessarily need thirty touches now

456
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: at running back to be productive. I mean, I know

457
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 1: that's the game's not playing that way? Is it isn't

458
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 1: run schemes? I mean, what what is it now that's

459
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: changed with running backs where they can be more productive

460
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: with fewer opportunities. Marcus, that is a fantastic question, and

461
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked that because I have a tremendous

462
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 1: answer for you. It's the scheme. Think about it. Back

463
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: in the day. I remember back when I played, it

464
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: was I formation. Um, you know, the plays were simple.

465
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 1: It was like, okay, thirty four dive. You know, twenty

466
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 1: nine will thirty eight toss right, so it's like three

467
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 1: back to back, eight whole, four hole, six hole, right.

468
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: But now everything is his own, so it requires you

469
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 1: to read and understand. Uh, the blocking, read, understand defense,

470
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 1: you know from a front perspective. And everybody's doing it

471
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,959
Speaker 1: from little league to middle school to high school to college.

472
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 1: So this is their I formation, right, this is what

473
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Speaker 1: they know. And I remember seeing this is so funny.

474
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: I remember, Uh, one of my homeboys shot me to text.

475
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: He was like, hey, check out this this running back

476
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: because he does he handles our high school scouting stuff

477
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 1: like check out this running back and hit me back

478
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 1: and let me know what you think, because I want

479
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 1: to tell you what I think, but I don't want

480
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: you to, you know. So I watched it and then

481
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: I can't. I texted him, but I was like, man,

482
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: this dude is running through gaping holes and he's like

483
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: I know right, He's like they say, he's the best

484
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 1: friending back to come out of Texas. I was like, man,

485
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: he's like, now watch this guy hit me back. So

486
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: I watched this other guy. I was like, you know,

487
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: I kind of like him. He kind of got you

488
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: got a good feel to it, got a good field

489
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 1: for the run game, and he was running more out

490
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 1: of a traditional what I consider traditional like I formation

491
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: downhills offense. The two backs we were watching high school

492
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: kids was Jonathan Gray and Malcolm Brown. So and so

493
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: we both were on the same side of it. It's like,

494
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: you know, Malcolm Brown gonna be better man, because even

495
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: though Gray had ridiculous high school production, but he wasn't

496
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: getting touched until he was like eight yards down the field.

497
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: And it was running outside zone through gaping holes. So

498
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,479
Speaker 1: if that's what you see and that's how you brought up,

499
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: and that's what you're playing with, and for the most part,

500
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: that's what you're going to see at the collegiate level.

501
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: At the time, Texas wasn't running what they're running now.

502
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 1: They were running more you know of a scheme that

503
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: was Caden towards Malcolm Brown. Um, that's why Gray didn't

504
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 1: have the success outside of the injuries. But Gray just

505
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: wasn't having the success you expect the number one recruit

506
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: the nation to have. And so I think when you

507
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: look at these running backs, now everything is outside zone,

508
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: everything is inside zone, you know, so they've the the

509
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 1: amount of reps mental, physical, visual rest that they have

510
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 1: in running this offense, and the way the schemes are

511
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: are are set up to what the defense just doesn't

512
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 1: have a chance to really stop these guys. I mean,

513
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: it's that's why you see players come in and not

514
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 1: really need the volume to be successful. The ones that

515
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: do tend to go high in the first round. Your

516
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: Sae Kwon Barkley, Uh, you know, you're Adrian Peterson's, you

517
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 1: know you, Reggie Bushes, all those type guys. Those game

518
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: breakers are special and the special players can do special

519
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: things and given the system, but um, I think that's

520
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: that's partly why you see this ridiculous talk of fronting

521
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 1: backs don't matter. I think people are looking at that

522
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 1: from a from a global sense. It's like, well, you know,

523
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: you kind of get guys that don't need volume. That's true,

524
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: but it's a difference when you have you know, insert

525
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: running back a running it versus se Kwon Barkley. Say,

526
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: Kolon Barkley gets you touchdowns while person be gets your yards. Um.

527
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: So I can understand the sentiment, but I think the

528
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: looking at it the wrong way. But that's why I

529
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: believe we see these backs that are able to come

530
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Speaker 1: in and do successful things without volume, which leads to

531
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Speaker 1: people to believe that anybody could play the position. You know,

532
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that too, because I I fall

533
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: sort of where you do about that. That whole argument.

534
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: I stopped I've stopped waiting into that argument on Twitter

535
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: because it's just, you know, at this point, everybody's sort

536
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: of dug in and now you've already staked the side,

537
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: and nobody's really changing their minds. So I've kind of

538
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 1: stopped arguing it. But I really do believe that there

539
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: are those guys that are special. You mentioned se Kwan

540
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: being one. I think we saw it last year in

541
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: Carolina with Christian McCaffrey not being being healthy. I mean,

542
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: Mike Davis played well, but you know he wasn't giving

543
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,479
Speaker 1: you Christian McCaffrey type production over the course of the season.

544
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: I think that you know, on some level, it still

545
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: doesn't matter who's back there case not to cut off,

546
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: but think about and the Brown situation. Quietly, Kareem Hunt

547
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: doesn't need volume, but quietly Nick Chubb does. However, if

548
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 1: you gave Kareem Hunt volume, he'd be you know, equally

549
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: as successful as Nick Chell. We saw that already as

550
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: a rookie. But if you go, if you watch him

551
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 1: thrive with Nick Chubb. That's the reason why it's you know,

552
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: Chubb first and Hut second. Hut is capable of playing both.

553
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: I don't think Chubb is capable of playing both. And

554
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: I think Chubb is more of the old school back

555
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 1: and Hunt is more of the new wage back. That

556
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: because he has the vision, footwork and understanding of blocking scheme,

557
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: he doesn't need volume to be successful. It takes someone

558
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: like Chubb or someone you know of that caliber a

559
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: little bit longer to try to feel out the defense.

560
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: That's where the volume comes in. But someone like uh

561
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: that if you have the vision and elusiveness like a

562
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: Hunt or Pooka Williams or to Rick Cohen, it doesn't

563
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: matter if you're coming in cold off the bench. You

564
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: you trust your eyes and your footwork to make things happen.

565
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: That's another reason why I think it's also tied into

566
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: whatever the traits you have as a player. Um, just

567
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: real quickly, do you think that could end up being

568
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: the thing with James Robinson and tryings E t n

569
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: down there in Jacksonville? I think so. I think, um,

570
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: as he doesn't need volume. Um but Robinson is someone

571
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: that can kind of get it rolling. It could look

572
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 1: a lot like Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt. Both are

573
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: are very good backs in and of itself. When you

574
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: think about what they're they're asking them to do. It's

575
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: just that Ett and speed is just that's the thing

576
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: you take in the first round. You know the level

577
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: of speeding explosiveness. Um So, if you imagine these twenty

578
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: yard runs that Robinson gets with Ett and running them,

579
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: those are now seventy yard touchdowns, you know. So, and

580
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: you pair those guys both, you're gonna average a healthy

581
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: a hundred and forty yards on the ground a game.

582
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: Uh So, I think that's why they want to go

583
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 1: with the dual back, especially when you think about Trevor

584
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: Lawrence component to it. Yeah, he may be tall, he

585
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: may have long hair, but Trevor Lawrence can pick them

586
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: up and put them down. So that's the third element

587
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: to the run game. If you if that backside defensive

588
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: end decides to be over aggressive, guess who's out the

589
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: gate and down the sideline for a chunk plate, Trevor Lawrence.

590
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: So I think they're gonna be a run base, a

591
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: pro spread offense, run base offense. That's gonna be an

592
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,719
Speaker 1: explosive pass game. So to use a fantasy term, I'm

593
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: getting better with this, by the way, a fantasy term.

594
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: The wide receivers for Jackson all probably would be great

595
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: in the best ball situation. There you go, I can

596
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: buy that. I can buy that, And I mean, I mean,

597
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: I just asked that because so many people like love

598
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: James Robinson and to see et and go there was like,

599
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,239
Speaker 1: oh no, what's gonna happen now? But now you can

600
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: love them both. They're gonna they're both going to have

601
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: their success. Again, think in terms of uh uh four

602
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: minute offense James Robinson, but in the middle part of

603
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: the game at team is gonna be the one that's

604
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: gonna wear you out because of his speed, Anthon Robinson's

605
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: gonna budge in you to dead and get you to submit.

606
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: There it is all right, So both everybody can be happy,

607
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: everybody can prosper. That's what that's what we want. So

608
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: what we want. Uh So I got a handful of receivers.

609
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to ask you about two. I

610
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: know you you were saying Anthony Schwartz, he's drafted to

611
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: the Browns. Uh, and I know you tweeted that you

612
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: think he's going to be a better pro than he

613
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: was a college player. He comes to a wide receiver

614
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: room that's kind of crowded. What does he have to

615
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: do you think to get on the field regularly in Cleveland? Uh?

616
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: If I was Anthony Swarts, you know I probably sitting

617
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: there a wide receiver and raise my hand like hey

618
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: Ray and if you run a four two oh, it's

619
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: just me that automatically gets him on the field. Um,

620
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: because when you think about Cleveland's offense, Odell Beckham is

621
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: a game breaker because he's the fastest. But now you

622
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: add someone faster than him, and you add a better

623
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: quarterback situation with Baker Mayfield over Boat Nick's. I mean,

624
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: it's just it just makes so much sense. So I

625
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be there a guy that he's their

626
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: version of Nicole Harman. He's their version of Tyree Kiell.

627
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: He's their version of insert whatever dynamic special player that

628
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: you want. That's gonna be Schwartz plus one. He's going

629
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: to start instantly as a returner and uh, you know specialists,

630
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: and that's gonna get him on the field. It's gonna

631
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: get him into the groove of a game, and then

632
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna work him into the offense. So I see

633
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: him being a significant player, not only you know, the

634
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: passing game, because he could quietly run routes better than

635
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: people expect him to. If be just watched him on

636
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: an individual basis within that offenses, run routes, get out

637
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: of his brakes, transition out of cuts. He does a

638
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: good job there, so you can trust him running out.

639
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Speaker 1: But if you watch him in a wide receiver run game,

640
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Speaker 1: it adds more to the Hunt, the Chubb dynamic we

641
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Speaker 1: talked about. When he goes in that jet sweep motion

642
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: or that orbit motion, you gotta worry about him. Now.

643
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Speaker 1: You just created a gap for Chubb or Hunt to

644
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Speaker 1: sprint through. So I I see him being a big

645
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Speaker 1: part of the offense both um as a ball carrier,

646
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: as a receiver, but also as someone as as a

647
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: decoy on these motions. I've noticed that's become so much

648
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Speaker 1: more of a trend now to you talk about the

649
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: jet sweeps, the orbit motion and stuff. That is becoming

650
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Speaker 1: so much a part of so many different offenses. Um.

651
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: I think, especially for those guys with speed, it is

652
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: just such a game changer. So I'm curious to see

653
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Speaker 1: if if he's going to be able to work in there,

654
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: because I do think it's a it's an interesting pick

655
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Speaker 1: and just a crowded wide receiver group to him. I'm

656
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: curious about that. Uh, not so crowded in Washington. I mean,

657
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: you know, they got Terry mclauren there. I think they're

658
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: still looking for help. They draft Yami Brown. How do

659
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Speaker 1: you think he fits in in that offense. I think

660
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: he fits in like a glove. He's gonna be their

661
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: deep threat. UM. I think people kind of and and

662
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Speaker 1: not using this term in a bad way, people sort

663
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Speaker 1: of overrated Terry mclauren because he was the best of

664
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Speaker 1: the bunch, you know. But mclauren is best served with

665
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Speaker 1: a co pilot and I think when you have someone

666
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Speaker 1: like Diae Brown who's a deep threat, legitimate deep threat,

667
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: that's gonna open things up for mclauren to really thrive.

668
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Speaker 1: And I think Diamie Brown is gonna step in right

669
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Speaker 1: away and be great. People focus on the drops, but

670
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: if you watch them, uh catching the football, and this

671
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: is something that requires a little bit of nuance. A

672
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: lot of his drops are on curls, comebacks, you know, slants,

673
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Speaker 1: and those require you to have fast hands. It's not

674
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: like our fast eyes too so old. For for instance,

675
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Speaker 1: if you're seeing someone dropping those type of passes, you're

676
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Speaker 1: seeing him catch the middle or the back part of

677
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Speaker 1: the football, which means he's seeing it late, so he's

678
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Speaker 1: getting his hands up late. So if you're doing that

679
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Speaker 1: and getting hit at the same time, that's gonna be

680
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Speaker 1: a drop. But you never see him drop a ball

681
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Speaker 1: going over his head. Why because he has time to

682
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: get his hands underneath he gets time, he gets time

683
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: to get his body underneath it. He's seeing it longer,

684
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Speaker 1: so he's able to make those catches. So he's probably

685
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Speaker 1: on those deep ball receptions as opposed to those shorter,

686
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: quick in breaking routes. Some guys do a better job

687
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Speaker 1: of you know, seeing it faster, getting getting their hands

688
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: up as opposed to others that are that are struggled

689
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Speaker 1: catching a deep ball. Um. So being a deep ball

690
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: threat doesn't mean you have great speed. It means that

691
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Speaker 1: you're nine times of him gonna catch a ball that's

692
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Speaker 1: going deep down the field. And so for him, when

693
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Speaker 1: you could bind the speed and his ability to really

694
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Speaker 1: stack and track um, you know, going down field, it

695
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Speaker 1: makes him the ideal deep threat. So I'm not worried

696
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Speaker 1: about his hands or the drops that he had. It's

697
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Speaker 1: not like he has bad hands. There's a difference between

698
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Speaker 1: having bad hands and seeing it late. So for him,

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing he's probably gonna have to live in front

700
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Speaker 1: of the jugs machine at a close at a close

701
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: range because you see some people, um you normal do

702
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: standing like about a good ten yards back. So for him,

703
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: maybe it's you know, standing five yards in front of

704
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: the machine and training himself to get his hands up

705
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: faster and find that point faster, to get his hands

706
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Speaker 1: up in the right proper place to catch the front

707
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: part of the ball and as supposed to me, the back.

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00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: So I think it's a great fit because now him

709
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: and McLaurin gives them dynamic play at the receiver position.

710
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: The only they're just a quarterback away from being successful.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean that's that's the next piece. Look,

712
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: I mean for fantasy, I love Ryan Fitzpatrick. He's just

713
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: gonna throw it down field. But I think in terms

714
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Speaker 1: of building the franchise, you're he's not the long term

715
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Speaker 1: answer there um last player for you too too, at Well,

716
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: which I think you know a lot of people were

717
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: sort of surprise that the Rams drafted him. Um. I mean, look,

718
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: I mean de Sean Jackson is there, but we know

719
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: he is certainly, I think the tail end of his career. Uh,

720
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: the offense at least the wide receivers pretty much run

721
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: through Robert Woods and Cooper Cup. But we have faith

722
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: in Sean McVeigh that he can find ways to use pieces.

723
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Speaker 1: Uh do you believe he can find a way to

724
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Speaker 1: use at Well in this offense? Well? He better. He

725
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: drafted him right, and I think so. Man. Listen, I

726
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: know people are hung up on his one nine, but

727
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Speaker 1: I don't care. If he's built like a solid punch

728
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: drow has speed, right, and the thing about him is

729
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: that you watch him just pull away from coverage somebody

730
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: I love with people on Twitter or people in comments sections,

731
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: are are even interviews actually, like well Kenny was staying

732
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: the pounding. What if he's going across the middle and

733
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: this you know, six nine eighty pound week side linebacker

734
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: just blows him up, like well, you know, he would

735
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 1: just get back up and get back on the huddle

736
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: like he did every place. O this, I don't think it.

737
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: Here's what people do. You understand the hits that you

738
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: see that go that make you go oh, those never hurt.

739
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: It's still still annoying suckers that you don't see that

740
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: you you go back like, man, that really my hit hurts,

741
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: like thats something ridiculous. So I'm not worried about him

742
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 1: at that weight. And we've seen Sean McVeigh try to incorporate,

743
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, some smallest receivers and that offense recently, Um

744
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: the kid from Eastern Washington that's the returner that that

745
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: was there. Uh, I forget his same but he's but

746
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: he's someone that they try to work into the offense.

747
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: We've seen J. J. Nelson have success. I'm always gonna

748
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: believe in Tavon Austen. I don't care what the numbers

749
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: production says because of the speed, and I think you know,

750
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: to to act well was I think online people got

751
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: tired of talking about him. But if you go back

752
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: to like the spring or a summer of like right

753
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: after draft, all people talk about two to act well

754
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: and again, if you're doing it in the a SEC

755
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: against people that you're to be playing against in the pros,

756
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna be doing it in the pros.

757
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see where those opportunities come. Is

758
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: he gonna be more in the wide receiver run game?

759
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: Is he gonna be more in uh as a deep

760
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: threat on these deep open routes. Seem like you'd have

761
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: been better suited to play in Seattle, but how they

762
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: use these shorter, smaller receivers. But they got one in

763
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: the Wayne Esperts to go along with Tyle Locket. So

764
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: I do think, you know they'll find a way to

765
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: get at Well more involved in the offense this year. Yeah,

766
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: Like I said, I I believe that he'll figure out

767
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: a way to use him. Um, you know he's made.

768
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: I kept hearing the de Sean Jackson comparisons and I'm like, well,

769
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: he gets to learn alongside de Shan then for you know,

770
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 1: a year or two so that that's gonna be cool

771
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 1: and he'll gain weight. Man, he's I think he's recently posing.

772
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: He's like one sixty six. Yeah you're still small, but yeah,

773
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: you still you're getting there. You're working in the right direction.

774
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: Not to mention that. Look, man, I don't care who

775
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: you are. If you get hit by a dude who's

776
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: six eight and it's gonna hurt, it's gonna hurt. It's

777
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: gonna make some noise, go k go, you know. Yeah,

778
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: I mean that's just facts. It just doesn't really matter. Um.

779
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: So obviously, you know, we've already seen the look aheads

780
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: to the two draft. People are already putting out their projections. Uh,

781
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: for you, have you started your scouting? Are you starting

782
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: to look ahead till next year's draft. Here's what's fascinating

783
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: and interesting and it kind of ties into your initial

784
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: question about, um, how has the scouting process changed? You know,

785
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: back in March April, I didn't think we were going

786
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: to have a college football season. It seemed like there

787
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: was no way, you know, on Lebron James and that

788
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a college football season, right, So I'm looking.

789
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: So I started my grading process early, and as the

790
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: seasons started to happen, I had to move I had

791
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: at the time, I had like eighty quarterbacks graded, so

792
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: I had to move like fifty quarterbacks into So that

793
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: process has already started for quarterbacks and running back stuff.

794
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: Mount of running backs had to take out of my

795
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: one class and moved too. You know. It was because

796
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: I was watching the film was already has already done. Uh.

797
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Speaker 1: And so I'm excited because I now have a jump

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Speaker 1: start on because I don't start my process as usually

799
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: until January once I started traveling to all these All

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00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: Star games. And then when I come back, Um, I

801
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: take two weeks of just watching film and grading. So

802
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: all my grades are done before the combine and they've

803
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: done in the final, so that's when everything gets out.

804
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: So now with that, with half that I have, but

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Speaker 1: a good part of that process started already, UM, it's

806
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: gonna be exciting. And I'm just now excited that I

807
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: can now include the fcs and D two prospects into

808
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: the mix because they didn't play last year and so

809
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: or last you know fall. So now you have to

810
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: go and really dive into those prospects, So I'm excited

811
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: about it. So yes, it has started, um more of

812
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: an outline in terms of Okay, let me get a

813
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: list together and start trying to chop these guys down.

814
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: So I guess that's that part of half learned to

815
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: try to work that work smarter, um, because I was

816
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: waiting till, you know, those two weeks in February to

817
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: really break down all that was in prospects or whatever.

818
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Speaker 1: But if I could get started a little earlier, kind

819
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: of chip away, chip away, chip away, I can get

820
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Speaker 1: a draft guy out earlier. I can get my grades

821
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Speaker 1: done earlier. They still will be done before the combine,

822
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 1: And that's my main goal. Does I mean give yourself

823
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Speaker 1: like a week or two to just relaxed, Absolutely not

824
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Speaker 1: absolutely because when you because now you've got to defend

825
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: everything that you you just put out. You know, so

826
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Speaker 1: like let's say eighteen you know, I was, I did

827
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Speaker 1: the whole game, but why you have Lamar Jackson number one?

828
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Speaker 1: And and why you have him such a high degrade

829
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Speaker 1: than everybody else, So now you gotta go. You gotta

830
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Speaker 1: go on radio circuit and defend your table. That's the

831
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: fun part, you know, you get to competitively argue with everybody.

832
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Speaker 1: Once those grades are done, all right, well look forward

833
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Speaker 1: to it. I appreciate you coming back on I said

834
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Speaker 1: it had been too long. I enjoy just kind of

835
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: following along with your stuff and watching videos and all

836
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. For folks who don't know where

837
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: can they find what you're doing. They could follow me

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00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: on Twitter at f Ball game Plan. Uh, they can

839
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Speaker 1: subscribe to the Football game Plan Network located at YouTube

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841
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Speaker 1: pick up a copy of our NFL Draft Guide, which

842
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Speaker 1: has five from the eight prospects individual scouting reports um graded.

843
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Speaker 1: So therefore you know, uh, draft is over, but rossals

844
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Speaker 1: are still transient. You're gonna see people get signed and

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Speaker 1: cut and signed on a private scribe training camp. You

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Speaker 1: one draft guy cool. Absolutely check that out if you

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Speaker 1: haven't already, and follow this man on Twitter if you

849
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Speaker 1: don't already. In the meantime, for us, that is it,

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