Speaker 1: You're listening to Comedy Central.
Speaker 2: My first guest tonight is a hockey legend by the
Speaker 2: name of Willie O'Ree. He integrated the sports of hockey
Speaker 2: by becoming the first black player to compete in the
Speaker 2: NHL in nineteen fifty eight, for which he will be
Speaker 2: awarded the Congressional Gold.
Speaker 3: Medal, making sports history in hockey as Jackie Robinson did
Speaker 3: in baseball. Willie Alree of the Boston Bruins, a native
Speaker 3: of Fredericton, New Brunswick, is the first Negro to play
Speaker 3: in the National Hockey League.
Speaker 4: In his first time out, his team won against the
Speaker 4: Montreal Canadians.
Speaker 3: In the Bruins dressing room after the game, Gord Sinclair,
Speaker 3: junior of CFCF pressed through the crowd for this interview.
Speaker 1: It must be quite an exciting thing, isn't it They
Speaker 1: get into an NHL game for the Boston Bruins.
Speaker 3: What do you feel about it?
Speaker 4: Day?
Speaker 1: Will you unusual?
Speaker 4: No, it was the greatest seller of my life.
Speaker 1: I believe I'll always remember this day.
Speaker 2: Lloways remember this day, mister Willi oree. Welcome to the
Speaker 2: Daily Show.
Speaker 5: Thank you very much.
Speaker 6: Certainly is a pleasure to be here.
Speaker 5: Oh the pleasure is all mine.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm talking to to a man who's a
Speaker 2: legend on so many counts.
Speaker 5: I mean, you're a legend because of what you did
Speaker 5: for the sport of hockey.
Speaker 2: You're a legend because you were the first black player
Speaker 2: in the NHL. And for me, you are a legend
Speaker 2: because you're a black person who chose to play on
Speaker 2: the ice. I don't meet many black people who willingly
Speaker 2: go to the cold, mister Orie, So you're a legend
Speaker 2: personally for me as an African.
Speaker 5: Welcome to the show. It's good to have you.
Speaker 6: Thank you, sir.
Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about your journey. It wasn't
Speaker 2: anything that anybody had done before. You know, you talk
Speaker 2: about this in your life and how you had a dream.
Speaker 2: You said, I want to play in the NHL. I
Speaker 2: want to be a professional hockey player. Nobody had done it,
Speaker 2: nobody thought anybody could do it, and yet you set
Speaker 2: your mind to it. I'd love to know how you
Speaker 2: had this idea of doing something that had never been
Speaker 2: done before, with the clarity that you had.
Speaker 6: Well, when I was fourteen years of age, I decided
Speaker 6: I wanted to become a professional hockey player and then
Speaker 6: hopefully one day in the play in the National Hockey League.
Speaker 6: And I have to give it to my older brother,
Speaker 6: who was not only my brother and my friend, but
Speaker 6: he was my mentor and he taught me a lot
Speaker 6: of things that I would need to know. So I
Speaker 6: started playing organized hockey, and at fourteen, I left my
Speaker 6: hometown to go up to Quebec, Canada to play junior
Speaker 6: hockey with the Quebec front Next played there that one year,
Speaker 6: and then I went and played in Kitchener, Ontario the
Speaker 6: second year, and that's when I had an unfortunate accident.
Speaker 6: You know, none of the players were any helmets, no
Speaker 6: face shields, no cages, and I was struck in the
Speaker 6: right eye with the puck and lost ninety seven percent
Speaker 6: vision in my right eye. And wow, the doctor told
Speaker 6: me I'd never played hockey again, but I kept it
Speaker 6: a secret and turned prone nineteen fifty six and was
Speaker 6: able to play twenty one years with one eye.
Speaker 5: Wait wait, wait, wait wait wait wait, let's okay.
Speaker 2: Now we need to add an extra layer of legend
Speaker 2: to the story. You lost some of your vision and
Speaker 2: the doctor said that you were legally blind. You keep
Speaker 2: this a secret, and then you go on to play that.
Speaker 2: I don't even understand how that's possible. I can't follow
Speaker 2: the puck. I've been to hockey games. I love watching
Speaker 2: hockey games, but it's like I can't follow the puck.
Speaker 2: But you're telling me you were a professional player who
Speaker 2: was legally blind.
Speaker 5: I don't understand how you did this.
Speaker 6: Well, you know when I went to the hospital and
Speaker 6: I was in my recovery room and the doctor said,
Speaker 6: mister Orhee says, you're going to be blind and you'll
Speaker 6: never play hockey again. Well, the two goals that I
Speaker 6: set for myself, well, seemingly we're gone. But I got
Speaker 6: out of the hospital, and within the next five weeks,
Speaker 6: I'm back on the ice practicing and playing. Now I'm
Speaker 6: a left hand shot and playing left wing. But to compensate,
Speaker 6: I had to turn my head all the way around
Speaker 6: to the right to pick the puck and pick the
Speaker 6: play up and look over my right shoulder wowow, And
Speaker 6: consequently I was over skating the puck and missing the net.
Speaker 6: And I just said, will you forget about what you
Speaker 6: can't see and concentrate on what you can see. So
Speaker 6: the season ends and I go back to my hometown
Speaker 6: and I kept my fingers crossed that I'd be contacted
Speaker 6: by a profession team, and I waited and waited, and
Speaker 6: finally I got a call from Punch Amlac, who was
Speaker 6: the coach and general manager at the Quebec Hees is
Speaker 6: the Quebec professional team up in Quebec City. So to
Speaker 6: make a long story short, I go to training camp,
Speaker 6: I make the team. I don't tell them that I'm blind.
Speaker 6: I don't have an eye exam. So I said, well,
Speaker 6: if I don't take an eye exam, just just play.
Speaker 6: And we won the championship that year. So that's what
Speaker 6: gave me the extra confidence that I needed, I said,
Speaker 6: I said.
Speaker 5: Oh man, I mean that's yeah.
Speaker 2: If anything qualifies somebody to be a legend, I think
Speaker 2: that's that story makes it.
Speaker 5: Let's talk about the sport itself.
Speaker 2: You know, you talked about back then what it was
Speaker 2: like being in in the league.
Speaker 5: As the first and only black player.
Speaker 2: You had teammates who supported you, you had fans who
Speaker 2: cheered for you, but they were also the fans who
Speaker 2: really could only think of the color of your skin
Speaker 2: as the reason that they didn't like you. You know, they
Speaker 2: were shouting slows at you on the eye, so they
Speaker 2: were shouting slows at you from from the stands. I'd
Speaker 2: love to know how you blocked out that noise, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's surely a next you as a human being.
Speaker 2: But you found a way to persevere. Was that something
Speaker 2: you had just grown up with in your family or
Speaker 2: did you put your head down?
Speaker 5: And like, how did you do that?
Speaker 6: And I just put my head down. I was called
Speaker 6: the N word every time I stepped on the ice
Speaker 6: by players on the opposition, by fans in the stands.
Speaker 6: If I had a penalty and I went in the
Speaker 6: penalty box, I could hear them saying the N word,
Speaker 6: But I just blocked it out thanks to my older
Speaker 6: brother again, and he told me, Willie, if they can't
Speaker 6: accept you for the individual that you are, because you
Speaker 6: have the skills and the ability to play in the
Speaker 6: league at this particular time, she'd forget about everything else.
Speaker 6: She said, just go out, stay focused on your goal
Speaker 6: and work hard. And basically that's what I did. But
Speaker 6: I mean, it was it was really rough at the beginning, Trevor,
Speaker 6: it really was. But finally I gained the respect of
Speaker 6: the players and the opposite and the fans.
Speaker 2: Man I honestly can't even imagine how hard it must
Speaker 2: have been, you know, being in that world. There are
Speaker 2: over one hundred black players, you know who have now
Speaker 2: played in the NHL. Well, many of them have either
Speaker 2: talked about your story or they've talked about your journey
Speaker 2: in some way inspiring them, but they've also talked about
Speaker 2: how difficult it can be being the only black player
Speaker 2: on a team, you know, the only black player who's
Speaker 2: representing the franchise. You know, were there any tips that
Speaker 2: you gave to any of these players, or were there
Speaker 2: any tips that you learned that would help you not
Speaker 2: almost carry the entire burden of being the only black
Speaker 2: player on a team, you know, being able to fail
Speaker 2: for Willy, or being able to succeed for Willy, and
Speaker 2: not always worrying that it you know, it represents all
Speaker 2: of blackness at the same time, which it did and didn't.
Speaker 6: Well, I met a lot of the black players and
Speaker 6: the players of color that are playing in the in
Speaker 6: the league at the present time, and you know, some
Speaker 6: of them that that I have met, they said, WILLI,
Speaker 6: I just can't imagine what you had to go through
Speaker 6: to make it possible for players like me to play
Speaker 6: in the league. He says, I just I have the
Speaker 6: highest respect, in the highest admiration for you. He said,
Speaker 6: what what you had to do? You must have had
Speaker 6: to turn your cheek a thousand times, And I said,
Speaker 6: I just stayed I stayed focused on what I wanted
Speaker 6: to do. I worked hard, and I told myself I'm
Speaker 6: good enough to play in the league, and just work
Speaker 6: hard and stay confident.
Speaker 5: Let's talk a little bit about the future.
Speaker 2: You know, we're celebrating you, and you've been celebrated for
Speaker 2: such a long time as being not just part of
Speaker 2: black history, but part of also.
Speaker 5: The NHL's history.
Speaker 2: You have now been an ambassador for the National Hockey League,
Speaker 2: getting black players into it, players of color, You know,
Speaker 2: kids who would have never thought that this could be
Speaker 2: their sport, or maybe they wanted to get into it
Speaker 2: but couldn't. It's an expensive sport to get into. You
Speaker 2: you know, your skates and all the equipment that you
Speaker 2: need to be part of it sometimes becomes a bigger
Speaker 2: barrier than even the color of your skin. When you're
Speaker 2: meeting with new kids and you're talking to these children
Speaker 2: who want to join in, how do you inspire them
Speaker 2: to get into a sport that sometimes might be just
Speaker 2: out of their reach.
Speaker 6: Well, we have organized programs all over North America, and
Speaker 6: when I first started there were approximately five. We have
Speaker 6: about thirty six now. And before the pandem, I was
Speaker 6: traveling around to these cities and talking to the elementary school,
Speaker 6: middle schools, junior high high schools, boys and girls clubs,
Speaker 6: y M YWCA's juvenile detention facilities to let them know
Speaker 6: that there is a sport that they can play if
Speaker 6: they want to, and all you have to do is
Speaker 6: come to the rink and we'll learn you how to skate,
Speaker 6: and if you follow, we'll get you on an organized,
Speaker 6: unorganized team where you're able to able to play. I mean,
Speaker 6: hockey is a fun sport, but I tell these kids,
Speaker 6: if you're not having fun, don't play it. Find another sport.
Speaker 6: But I can honestly say that the clinics that I've
Speaker 6: conducted over the years, once I get these boys and
Speaker 6: girls on the ice, I've not had one boy or
Speaker 6: girl come up and say, mister Lee, I don't like this,
Speaker 6: I'm not coming back. So it's a nice feeling to
Speaker 6: reach out and eat and just touch one individual and
Speaker 6: make a difference in their life.
Speaker 5: Well, that's why you are who you are.
Speaker 2: That's why you are receiving luck just the medal, but
Speaker 2: all the praise, and we celebrate you.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much, mister Willi Ori. Thank you so
Speaker 5: much for joining us on the show.
Speaker 2: Thank you for what you've done, and thank you for
Speaker 2: the joy that you've brought to the sport and to
Speaker 2: the world.
Speaker 5: We appreciate you.
Speaker 4: Please welcome Pik so Bad, Thank you. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: Oh Man, New York.
Speaker 5: This is so good man, so good to have you.
Speaker 2: Like you know, like like sports stars always have like
Speaker 2: such a crazy schedule.
Speaker 5: It's so hard to get you on the show. Thank
Speaker 5: you for being here. You're a superstar. And congratulations. Selected
Speaker 5: for the All Star Game again this weekend in Tampa.
Speaker 5: You're excited.
Speaker 7: I'm extremely excited to be captain Tears in a row.
Speaker 7: I'm just very happy to be able to represent the
Speaker 7: city of Nashville again. And I'm just I'm pumped, man,
Speaker 7: I'm pumped to be an All Star again.
Speaker 5: You you have such a wild story.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know, I didn't know much about your
Speaker 2: story before.
Speaker 5: You know you were coming on the show. I knew
Speaker 5: about you as a player, but your story.
Speaker 2: Is one that really excites me. You got into hockey
Speaker 2: in Canada, in Montreal, but someone likes hockey Old Canada.
Speaker 1: Oh both.
Speaker 2: But what was really amazing to me is that your
Speaker 2: dad gets you into the game and you come from
Speaker 2: a Jamaican family and for me, like Jamaica and ice hockey.
Speaker 1: No, they don't, they don't mix.
Speaker 2: No, No, like how why would your dad go like hockey?
Speaker 7: You know what, It's a good question because you know,
Speaker 7: my dad moved from Jamaica when he was twelve years
Speaker 7: old and that's.
Speaker 1: Where he grew up till he's twelve.
Speaker 7: Moved to Sudbury, Ontario, where he learned about the Sudbury Wolves,
Speaker 7: and he grew up in a French neighborhood.
Speaker 1: That's why me going to the Montreal.
Speaker 7: Canadians was such a big thing in my family because
Speaker 7: my dad grew up in a French neighborhood and that's
Speaker 7: where he learned about hockey for the first time. And
Speaker 7: that was the first time he saw snow, you know,
Speaker 7: twelve years old. So growing up in Sudbury, you know,
Speaker 7: watching the monch All Canadians, everybody was friends. So he
Speaker 7: saw the kids playing in the neighborhood. And that's when
Speaker 7: he started to watch hockey and used to watch the
Speaker 7: Subury Wolves play.
Speaker 2: Right, and you you went on to play for the
Speaker 2: Montreal Canadians. It's not a very creative name, but I
Speaker 2: mean it's very literal.
Speaker 4: And you didn't just go on to.
Speaker 5: Play for them. Man, they love you out there so much.
Speaker 5: I mean, you played for the team. You loved the team.
Speaker 2: Was that probably your biggest life ambition?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 7: Just you know, it was a dream as a kid,
Speaker 7: you know, you wanted to play and hockey, and it
Speaker 7: wasn't really until later on in my life where I
Speaker 7: knew it could be really a job. I just wanted
Speaker 7: to be like the guys on TV, you know, and
Speaker 7: whether it was playing in the backyard and every I
Speaker 7: got to give my I have the best.
Speaker 1: Parents in the world, you know.
Speaker 7: My dad putting in backyard rinks, you know, every year.
Speaker 7: And I give them credit for that because my mom
Speaker 7: used to give them, you know, crap all the time
Speaker 7: because the hydro bills would be so high the water
Speaker 7: that he'd be using to make the backyard rinks. But
Speaker 7: he stuck to the plan and both of my parents
Speaker 7: together did made so many sacrifices just to give me
Speaker 7: the opportunity to play hockey. And never once did they
Speaker 7: ever mention the NHL, you know, for any of us,
Speaker 7: all three of us.
Speaker 1: It just so happened that they gave us the opportunity.
Speaker 7: To play, and we got better, and then it became
Speaker 7: an opportunity to make it a living, and we just
Speaker 7: chased their dreams. And now you know, myself and Malcolm
Speaker 7: are playing in the NHL, and we're working on getting
Speaker 7: Jordan there hopefully soon.
Speaker 2: That's amazing yourself and your brothers all playing the same sport, all.
Speaker 5: At a high level.
Speaker 2: I think what touches me about your story is not
Speaker 2: just that you're successful, is that in many ways you
Speaker 2: mimic what your dad did for you, and it was selfless.
Speaker 2: You donated ten million dollars to a children's hospital. Did you, like,
Speaker 2: add a zero by mistake?
Speaker 5: I've done that. Because I've done you can tell me,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 7: I get I get that question a lot because it's
Speaker 7: one thing to donate and give back. It's another reason
Speaker 7: of to think. Another way to look at it is
Speaker 7: why ten million dollars?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 7: And I think it comes down to everybody has their
Speaker 7: own personal life experiences.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 7: You know, I went to Haiti with World Vision a
Speaker 7: year after when I was I would have been nineteen
Speaker 7: years old, twenty years old at the time, and I'm
Speaker 7: not from Haiti.
Speaker 1: I'm not Haitian.
Speaker 7: But I had an opportunity to go with World Vision
Speaker 7: at the time, and I went for three days and
Speaker 7: it was a life changing experience for me.
Speaker 1: But that wasn't it. I came back and I got to.
Speaker 7: Know a little boy named Alex Shapiro through my old
Speaker 7: minor hockey coach and still close friend and family friend,
Speaker 7: Martin Ross, and he coached him and got to know
Speaker 7: Alex very very closely and his parents and his family,
Speaker 7: and I was actually in touch with him until literally
Speaker 7: his last moments before he passed away. And you know,
Speaker 7: for me, that made me want to give back in
Speaker 7: a different way and really have a significant impact, and
Speaker 7: not just give back, you know where everyone could say wow,
Speaker 7: that's great, but give back where I could actually make
Speaker 7: a difference. And when I was presented the opportunity to
Speaker 7: do something like this with the ten million dollar donation
Speaker 7: and to the Hospital Montreal, I didn't even think twice
Speaker 7: about it. They came down the four o one to
Speaker 7: my house in Nobleton, Ontario, and they presented it to
Speaker 7: me and I signed the papers right there, and it
Speaker 7: was the perfect situation for me. And to this point,
Speaker 7: we've helped over probably ten thousand families and raised millions
Speaker 7: of dollars. So I'm very very happy about that.
Speaker 5: Yes, a phenomenal ful.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 8: You don't only have love from Montreal, but you went
Speaker 8: through a trying time where you were unexpectedly traded from
Speaker 8: Montreal through to Nashville to the Nashville Predators, and Montreal
Speaker 8: was your love, Montreal still is your heart, and you
Speaker 8: moved on to Nashville and you always promised the people
Speaker 8: of Montreal that you would take the team to the
Speaker 8: Stanley Cup.
Speaker 5: And then after you were traded, you then took.
Speaker 2: The Nashville Predators and you're part of the team that
Speaker 2: went to the Stanley Cup. Was that one of the
Speaker 2: most bittersweet moments you experienced as a human being.
Speaker 7: The bitter part about it is that we didn't win well,
Speaker 7: but you know it was It was a tremendous experience.
Speaker 7: And I have to speak about my teammates because you know,
Speaker 7: I wouldn't have an opportunity to be in this position
Speaker 7: and to be an All Star without them, and they've worked.
Speaker 7: I've never played with a greater group of guys than
Speaker 7: we have right.
Speaker 1: Now in that locker room.
Speaker 7: And I've never wanted to win so badly in my
Speaker 7: career because I think that everybody in that locker room
Speaker 7: deserves it. But they've given me every opportunity to be successful.
Speaker 7: But we've given each other that opportunity, and I think
Speaker 7: that's why we ended up in the Cup final last year.
Speaker 7: But what sucked about it was, yeah, we didn't win,
Speaker 7: and I didn't get an opportunity. That's all I could
Speaker 7: think about because when we got to that conference and
Speaker 7: we won the Western Conference finals, I'm like, man, I'm
Speaker 7: gonna have a chance to bring a cup back to
Speaker 7: that hospital, right and those kids, and you know, because
Speaker 7: I remember their faces and how upset they were when
Speaker 7: I was traded. I'm like, man, I got an opportunity
Speaker 7: to bring that cup back.
Speaker 1: That's going to be awesome.
Speaker 7: And then we lost, and you know, it sucked, but
Speaker 7: we have an opportunity to do it this year, so
Speaker 7: you yeah.
Speaker 5: You have.
Speaker 2: You have many opportunities, and it's not just in the
Speaker 2: field of sports. I think what's really I think inspiring
Speaker 2: about your story is how you find opportunities to help others,
Speaker 2: because it's not just the kids in Montreal. Tell us
Speaker 2: a little bit about the program that you started in
Speaker 2: Nashville where you get policemen to hang out and spend
Speaker 2: time with young previously disadvantaged or disadvantaged youths.
Speaker 1: You know what, and it's so important.
Speaker 7: One of my best friends is a cop and was
Speaker 7: actually just recently retired. Chris O'Sullivan was a cop in Boston.
Speaker 7: And you know, Chris has comes from a family of
Speaker 7: twelve brothers and sisters, used to play professional hockey, but
Speaker 7: it has become one of my closest friends over the years.
Speaker 7: And we know how much there's been talk about in sport,
Speaker 7: especially with police officers, and players have chosen to deal
Speaker 7: with it differently. I think that I was faced with
Speaker 7: a lot of questions coming out of training camp, and
Speaker 7: you know, for me, I always look at everything and
Speaker 7: how can I make this a positive situation? And I
Speaker 7: looked at it and I remember us having a meeting
Speaker 7: as a team before the season started, talking about, you know,
Speaker 7: how we were going to handle it, and I, you know,
Speaker 7: I remember being upfront I said, listen, guys, I want
Speaker 7: to attack this in a way that is positive for
Speaker 7: the team and for the community.
Speaker 1: And listen, also, my best friend.
Speaker 7: Had an influence on me as well, and you know,
Speaker 7: I know what he's done for so many people and
Speaker 7: his friends have done, and I know that in the
Speaker 7: community of Nashville. I wasn't going to have the opportunity
Speaker 7: maybe to donate ten million dollars to him again, but
Speaker 7: maybe do something that was just impactful in a different way.
Speaker 1: And starting this program has been. It's been amazing.
Speaker 7: It's had the same impact that you know, my foundation
Speaker 7: has had in Montreal, and in a little bit of.
Speaker 1: A different way.
Speaker 7: And the kids, I mean, I wish he could be
Speaker 7: there to see the look on the kids' faces when
Speaker 7: it's their first time going to a hockey game, their
Speaker 7: first time pretty much doing anything that really they can
Speaker 7: think of in a positive way, and to have to
Speaker 7: have police officers there to do it with them, it's
Speaker 7: been great.
Speaker 2: So you have these kids who meet up with a
Speaker 2: police officer, they come to the game, you get them tickets,
Speaker 2: you buy them dinner, they hang out together. I would
Speaker 2: like to understand why you thought that that would be
Speaker 2: something you'd want to do. Everyone tackles in a different way.
Speaker 5: But why that? Why the kids with the police officers?
Speaker 7: Well, first of all, I think that I have, like
Speaker 7: I said, friends that work in law enforcement, and I
Speaker 7: think that we need to celebrate the good that they
Speaker 7: do as well. And I think that the children for
Speaker 7: these kids that are under privilege, that don't get an opportunity.
Speaker 1: To go to a game, you know, why not.
Speaker 7: I know that I have the opportunity to purchase four
Speaker 7: tickets to a home game forty one times.
Speaker 1: Who sits in those seats? That's up to me.
Speaker 7: And I chose to have two underprivileged children that don't
Speaker 7: have the opportunity, and two police officers that have the
Speaker 7: opportunity now to mingle with underprivileged kids who maybe have
Speaker 7: only ever seen cops a bad right, But now they're
Speaker 7: at a Preds game which they've never been to. They
Speaker 7: get to eat some great food, right and the Patron lounge.
Speaker 7: That's a shout out to Patron. They don't sponsor me,
Speaker 7: but I know that's where.
Speaker 1: They get the food.
Speaker 7: They get They get some great dinner, and they get
Speaker 7: to meet the players after the game, and they get
Speaker 7: to meet me. I don't know if that's a good
Speaker 7: thing or a bad thing, but they get to meet
Speaker 7: me and it's celebratory. And I think the biggest thing
Speaker 7: that I've taken from this program so far was an
Speaker 7: email that I got from one of the officers who
Speaker 7: took it upon himself to stay in touch with the
Speaker 7: child after the game and said, I'm going to stay
Speaker 7: in touch with this kid. We're going to go to
Speaker 7: many more games because I got season tickets and so
Speaker 7: on and so forth. We have the email and it
Speaker 7: was one of the best things.
Speaker 1: It was the best feeling that.
Speaker 7: I've ever had since the program started, because that's what
Speaker 7: it's all about. So it's all about building bridges, and
Speaker 7: I think that that's what this program has done.
Speaker 5: You're an amazing man, and thank you so much for
Speaker 5: being on the start.
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