1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. We love to overreact, and of course we're 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: probably overreacting, but we shouldn't be. It's a game in January. 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: Chris Mannix Sports Illustrated senior NBA writer, if you didn't 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: see the game last night, Chris, how would you describe 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: it and the importance of it. I would describe it 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: as revealing, at least in terms of what the Nets 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: need to work on moving forward. I'm not at all 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: concerned about the ability of you know, Kyrie, James Harden, 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant to put up points. I mean, they scored 11 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: ninety six in that game. I think they scored like 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: forty two of the last fifty seven points for Brooklyn 13 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: in that game. They'll they'll find a way to make 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: it work offensively. But there were a couple of things 15 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: that really stood out. One, the Nets don't defend anybody, 16 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: and this has been, you know, going on for most 17 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: of the season. Cleveland came into that game with the 18 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: thirtieth ranked offense, like they stunk, and they were without 19 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: Darius Garland, they were without Kevin Love, and they still 20 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: put one hundred and forty seven on Brooklyn. In guttle 21 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: overtime that that needs to be addressed. They don't have 22 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: a defensive stopper on the perimeter. DeAndre Jordan's best years 23 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: as a rim protector are probably behind him. They don't 24 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: have anybody off the bench that provides that type of presence, 25 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: and they don't really trust anybody on that bench. I 26 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: mean Steve Nash, I guess nominally played a nine man rotation, 27 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: but you know, Joe Harris played forty two minutes off 28 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: the bench. Nobody else played more than twelve. Meanwhile, Kevin Durant, 29 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: who is not that far removed from from an an 30 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: achilles tear, played fifty minutes. You know, James Harden in 31 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: his third game with the Nets played fifties. Third straight 32 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: with forty plus. Kyrie Irving off for two weeks, goes 33 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: for forty five. You know, Steve Nash either needs to 34 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: start trusting the guys on his bench or Sean Marks 35 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: has to go up there and find a way to 36 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: get him guys that he does. Yeah, I think you're 37 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: going to have scoring and then defense is going to 38 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: be optional. And I think you have to have a 39 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: concept for defense, and then you have to have a 40 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: willingness to want to play defense as well. It feels 41 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: like Kevin Durand is the one guy who can play 42 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: defense or will play defense. But trying to add to 43 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: your roster at this point in the season or later 44 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: in this season, what's the feasibility of that, Chris? Not 45 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: much at this point during the season. I mean, you 46 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: can scour the G League when they get started in 47 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: early February to see if anybody kind of fits that mold. 48 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: Their trade options are extremely limited because of what they 49 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: gave up in the James Harden deal. What they have 50 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: to be hoping for is that the buyout market yields 51 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: a player that fits what they're looking for. I mean, 52 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: every year there seems to be with three guys that 53 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: hit that market that can make an impact on a 54 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: contending team. The difference this year, though, Dan, is that 55 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: the expansion of the playing tournament is going to make 56 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: a lot more teams feel like they're in contention. So 57 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: if you're a team that's sitting there at eleventh or twelfth, 58 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 1: but you're only a couple of games back from ninth 59 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: or tenth, you're gonna think, all right, maybe I will 60 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: buy this guy out because we have a chance to 61 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: get into the postseason, that could depress the buyout market, 62 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: and if that happens, that's not good news for the Nets. Yeah, 63 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 1: that's an interesting take. Hadn't thought of that. But if 64 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: I'm the Lakers, if I'm the Sixers, if I'm the 65 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: Box or the Heat, like, like, how concerned do you 66 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: think these teams should be and are with what's going 67 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: on in Brooklyn? You know, concerned might be too strong 68 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: a word. You're you're certainly watching every game they play 69 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: to see if their defense becomes, you know, possible enough 70 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: to catch up with their offense. And they don't have 71 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: to be a top ten defensive team, they just need 72 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: to be probably top fifteen, top half of the NBA 73 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: to be a championship contender. So well, I'd be watching 74 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: them because you know, look, the playoffs comes down to 75 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: guys didn't get you buckets, and the Nets now have 76 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: three guys that individually can get you buckets. And that's 77 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: an incredibly valuable part of this. But you know, another 78 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: side light here, Dan is to make to make big 79 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: threes work, you've got to have sacrifice. Kyrie even alludes 80 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: to this, you know, last night in his media interview 81 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: after the game, You've got to have guys wanted to sacrifice, 82 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: and somebody in that group is going to have to 83 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: really sacrifice, and the way that Chris Bosh did and 84 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: Kevin Love did in their time as members of Big 85 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: Three m Kyrie would seem to be the guy that 86 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: that would need to do that. But I'm struck by 87 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: by this about Kyrie. I mean, Kyrie, you know, he's 88 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: a He's a quirky guy like you. You should if 89 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: you're Kyrie Irving, you should be excited about the possibility 90 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: of playing with James Hard and Kevin Direct. And maybe 91 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: he is. He's saying all the right things right now. 92 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: But you have to remember Kyrie was part of a 93 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: championship team in Cleveland, and he forced his way out 94 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: with two years left in his contract. He was part 95 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: of a really good team in Boston. He said he 96 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: was going to come back, and then he said, you 97 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: know what, I don't want to do this anymore. He 98 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:18,119 Speaker 1: wanted to control his own destiny badly in the summer 99 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen, and he did that. He signed with Brooklyn, 100 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: his hometown team. In a way, he signed to play 101 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: with Kevin Durant, his best friend in the league. He 102 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: picked his situation for the first time in his career, 103 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: and now he's back in a similar place where he's 104 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: having had his career dictated to him by the addition 105 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: of James Harden. That that to me bears watching Dan 106 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: how Kyrie reacts to once again being in a situation 107 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: that was not of his choosing. Did we learn anything 108 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: from his press conference? Just that whatever is going on 109 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: in his life is still wearing on him. I mean, 110 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: I'm not I don't like to wait too deep into 111 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: the psyche of Kyrie Irving and what you know, what 112 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: really impacts him and what doesn't. But you can't watch 113 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: that press conference and think that everything in Kyrie's world 114 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 1: is okay. I mean, he was asked he was okay. 115 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: He just basically nodded in the affirmative. It's I don't 116 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: know how it manifests itself, because if he's able to 117 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: push past it to play basketball at a high level. 118 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: But it's pretty clear that what pushed Kyrie away from 119 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: the game in early January is still lingering with him. Now, 120 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: what do you think of the Lakers so far? You're 121 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: almost waiting for any kind of bump along the way. 122 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe they get it on this road trip. 123 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: They start a seven game road trip tonight against Milwaukee. 124 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: That'll be a fun matchup. I think I kind of 125 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: think in this game, Dan Lebron and Anthony Davis go 126 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: right at Jannis. I mean Lebron see as you know, 127 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: like still you know, remembers every slide against him and 128 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: is still I think, bristling a little bit from not 129 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: getting as many MVP boats as you should have had. 130 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: And Anthony Davis, but he was defensive Player of the 131 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: Year last year and not Yannis. So I think they're 132 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: gonna go at Yan is pretty good in this game tonight. 133 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: But the Lakers just as look, I haven't been had 134 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: their season interrupted by COVID. The guys they brought in 135 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: have pretty much worked from Dennis shrewder On down, and 136 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: Lebron is playing at an MVP level while I think 137 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: playing the fewest minutes per game in his career. So 138 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: it's just they're not really a story because nothing has 139 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: has has slowed. They're a set. They're picking up exactly 140 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: where they left off last season. Quiet is good in 141 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: Laker Land. As we found out with Frank Vogel, Quiet 142 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: is good and it leads to championships. Chris, thanks as 143 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: always for joining us. We appreciate your time. Bunn, you 144 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: got deaf. That's Chris Mannis. 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All right, let's go one 154 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: by one here, Andrew, let's start with Deshaun Watching. How 155 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: tradeable is he? Hey? Dan, I'm not your clickbait guy. 156 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: Everybody's rushing to the fantasy football trades and going to 157 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: day it's going to be really hard. He signed a 158 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: new contract, as everyone knows, four months ago, four short 159 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: months ago. He committed the Texans four years. And when 160 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: you do these big contracts, we'll talk about Carson Wentz too. 161 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: There's consequences and consequences if somehow you move on somehow 162 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: you separate early in the contract, which, of course would 163 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: be incredibly early in the contract best case. Best case 164 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: for the Texans would be leaving behind twenty seven million 165 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: dollars of dead money. For people that have don't understand. 166 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: Dead money's not the cash has been paid. Dead money 167 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: is cap accounting that stays on your cap even after 168 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: the player leaves twenty seven million for a player that 169 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: won't be there. Now, of course, you know you're getting 170 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: rid of your franchise player, your best player. You've got 171 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: to add quarterbacks in place of him. So it's gonna 172 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: be a lot more than twenty seven million allocated to quarterback. 173 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: But how long is the twenty seven million stay that 174 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: would stay this year? This year and then next year 175 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: you know it would be off the books. But again, 176 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: what is what is value for Deshaun Watson? I've said 177 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: from the beginning, Dan, they've got a new general manager. 178 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: If he trades Deshaun Watson, he's going to be an 179 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: old general manager pretty quick. But if I was the 180 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: owner and you were my GM, and I ordered you 181 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: to trade Deshaun Watson, what would you ask for? Well, 182 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: I think you're talking about a young player. At the 183 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: top of his game. That's only going to get better. 184 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: I don't even know what to ask for. I mean, 185 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: this is kind of the James Harden kind of trade 186 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: where you have multiple number one picks, you need players back, 187 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: you need to replace the position. I don't know if 188 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: there's ever been a trade like this. You know, when 189 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: we talk quarterbacks don't make it to this kind of market. Well, 190 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: we normally trade up to get a pick in a draft, 191 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: and we're giving draft capital there. This is an established franchise, 192 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: legitimate top seven, six five quarterback probably in the NFL 193 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: right now, playing on a bad team. Is Marson Carson Wentz. 194 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about him, but to get him, just 195 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: give you an idea. They traded a first and a 196 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: fourth for that year, a first and a second for 197 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: the upcoming year. Okay, and that's a player who never 198 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: played and who was coming in on a rookie contract, 199 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: which is cheap relatively, So just think about those kind 200 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: of things. I mean, Deshaun Watson would be multiple times that. 201 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: And again, I do not think it's going to happen 202 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. What's the likelihood he gets traded? And what 203 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: would you be asking for in return. Yeah, I don't 204 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: think he's gonna get traded again, because now we're talking 205 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 1: about it. Here's that dead money number again, Dan, it's 206 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: thirty four million best case. Now, if they pay him 207 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: the ten million roster bonus before they trade him or 208 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: June one kind of thing, then it's forty four million, 209 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: not thirty four million of dead money. So I don't 210 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: think it's going to happen. We've seen the change with Peterson. 211 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: You know, basically they chose Wentz over Peterson. You know, 212 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: they chose the guy they want to fix, and the 213 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: reason they want to fix him is because it's such 214 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: a massive investment. They're not going to move on from that, 215 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: you know. And again people say his talents regressed, Well, 216 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: we know he's done it right two years ago. It 217 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: played MBP quality football. So someone's going to fix him. 218 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: It's not gonna be Doug Peterson. I think he stays, well, 219 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: you are a buzzkill, you're not clickbait. You don't think 220 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: and this is not the NBA. You know, trade James 221 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: Harden and you get picks and players and all that. 222 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: But there's no long tail of economics. That's what people 223 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: need to understand. I managed to cat for ten years. 224 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: NFL economics is so different. But if you're DeShawn Watson's agent, 225 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: you know the math here like like how do you trade? 226 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: How do you get your client out of Houston? You know, 227 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: if you really want to get him out, you pay 228 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: back a lot of millions of dollars, you know. I 229 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: mean people have suggested that, which I think I don't 230 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: if I'm an agent, I'm not suggesting that. You know, 231 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: this guy signed four months ago. I don't know what change. 232 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: People say, Well, he had to take it because the 233 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: money was so big. Well, you know, Dak Prescott, that 234 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: market's not going to go down. I don't think Deshaun 235 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: Watson had any downside to waiting to do a contract 236 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: even if injured. His market was going up. But you know, 237 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: I look at this with Lamar Jackson and Baker Mayfield. Yep, 238 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: if you're the team, does does it make sense for 239 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: Cleveland designed Baker Mayfield now? And the same with the 240 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: Ravens with Lamar Jackson? You know, I think that we're 241 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: back to Wentz here. I think the Wentz and maybe 242 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: Jared Goff are going to give teams a little pause there. 243 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: You know, those teams jumped in after year three, gave 244 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: the massive extension, and you hear San mcveay talk about 245 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, and we know what's going on with Wentz. 246 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: You know, you get the feeling that they should have waited. Yea, 247 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: and maybe Mayfield and Jackson maybe they do wait. You know, 248 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, they waited till the fifth year. Trubisky of 249 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: course never done a deal after his rookie but that's different. 250 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: I know Mahomes they rushed in after three years, but 251 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: there may be pause with those quarterbacks. You mentioned to 252 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: not do a deal right away after the three year 253 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: minimum allotment where you can renegotiate any chance Andrew Luck 254 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: comes out of retirement for the Colts. I don't think so. 255 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,599 Speaker 1: You're just throwing it out there. I just yeah, I 256 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: mean I think he's he's a different cat, you know, 257 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: and I think he's into a lot of different things 258 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: besides football. That guy's not coming back. Okay. Can you 259 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: guarantee that Carson went into Shaun Watson will not be traded. 260 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: You got to put something up here, Andrew. Yeah, you 261 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: guarantee something. Yeah, I'm gonna guarantee it. Okay, what are 262 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: you willing to put up. Say, yeah, what are you 263 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: willing to put up? I'll come back on your program 264 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: and gain the wrath of all the haters saying brand 265 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: you were wrong. I mean, I don't how about how 266 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: about a liquid cheese bath because you used to be 267 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: with the packers, so we Yeah, would you do a 268 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: liquid a shower of cheese on the show Wisconsin Cheese? 269 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: Yeah you'll do. I wear that helmet behind me. You 270 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: can wear the helmet, but you would do a shower 271 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: of cheese? Would you do? I will if if if 272 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: they're not on their teams, I will do that. I 273 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: will do that. Dan, okay, fair enough. And I would 274 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: like to offer up mclovin. If they do decide to 275 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: trade one of those two. Mclovin would then do a 276 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: shower of cheese. So that's that's my gift. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 277 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: we're both Philly guys. He doesn't want to see. Uh, 278 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: we could do Philly cheese. We could do Philly cheese. 279 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: Somebody has to have cheese poured on him in here. 280 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: I mean, this is you know, this is quid pro 281 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: quo here with Andrew, who is you know what? I'll 282 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: do the cheese? Oh nice, yeah, I'll do the cheese. 283 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: If either one of these guys who's not traded, okay, 284 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: if one of them is traded, then then you're you're 285 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: gonna be a true cheese head and you are as well. 286 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: Yes I will, yes, I will. I know you're working 287 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: with Sports Illustrated. You got a podcast newsletter? Uh what 288 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: are you working on? What are you covering? This letter? 289 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: Can sign up go to Andrew dash Brandt dot com. 290 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm doing that newsletter. Talking a lot about, you know, 291 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: memories this week. You see the helmet, we just talked 292 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: about it. I was there my last game, Brett Farves 293 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: last game, Aaron's last game as a backup when we 294 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: hosted the NFC Championship before that was the coldest game ever. 295 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: Of course, Tom Coughlin's face was fu shot, as you remember, 296 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: and unfortunately we lost in the overtime to the Giants, 297 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: who went on to beat the Patriots who were undefeated. 298 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: So it was quite a memory, you know. And now 299 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: they're back there. Obviously I like their chances. I'm biased, 300 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: but it's great to see them back there with hosting 301 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: a championship game once again. What are the odds Aaron 302 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: Rodgers engines career as a packer. I think you know, 303 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: when they drafted Jordan Love, it just seemed like now 304 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: we have a separation date, which is sad, but it's 305 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: not gonna be anytime soon. Dan, As we know, he's 306 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: MVP and he's gonna play next year. But maybe you know, 307 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: just like him, maybe three years just like him with 308 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: you know, it's a three year window where they develop 309 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: love and see what happens. But you know, he has 310 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: played lights out. He's at the top of his game, 311 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: as you know. Always great to talk to you, and 312 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: I've never looked forward to a trade as much as 313 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: I've looked forward to maybe one of these trades with 314 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and or Carson Wins. There will be cheese 315 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: for one of us. There will be blood, there will 316 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: be cheese. Thank you, Andrew. Great to talk to you again. 317 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: Oh it's a pleasure. Dad. That's Andrew Bram mm QB 318 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: columnist and the Business of Sports podcast. Thanks for listening 319 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch 320 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six 321 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can 322 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream 323 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: us live on the Peacock app Chris Berman ESPN, NFL 324 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: Primetime co host and twenty ten Pete Roselle Radio TV 325 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: Award from the Pro Football Hall of Fame Championship Sunday. 326 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: Coming up this weekend, Chris and Keishaw Johnson will air 327 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: on ESPN at ten Eastern. That'll be following the Bills 328 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: and Chiefs. Also, NFL primetime divisional playoff shows available now 329 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: through Saturday night on ESPN, ESPN Plus. As we welcome 330 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Famer, Chris Berman, Chris, how are you, buddy? Dan? 331 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: Good to be with you, man, You're You're still somebody. 332 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: I was somebody. It's a proud it's a pleasure to 333 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: break some bread with you on a championship week. What's 334 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: the oddest place you've been recognized because of your voice? Oh? 335 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: Because of voice only? Well, I mean I go to 336 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: a lot this year, right when you have masks on, 337 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: right and you're in the supermarket. Let's say that's not 338 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: the honest, but this is the most recent all the time, 339 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: and you know you're alone, you're not saying anything. But 340 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: then when you speak up, like two people in the 341 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: line of the check outle wait a minute at you, 342 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: I said, jeez, I had a mask on like that, 343 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: didn't not that I'm running away from anything. Voice. This 344 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: is going way back now, because it's kind of the 345 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: answer you want. If I forgot in all the years 346 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: you and I, you know, we're traveling and flying and 347 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: going to airports and connecting blah blah blah, if I forgot, 348 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: if it was summer or fall, if i'd go through, 349 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: let's say, O'Hare right, and I'd hear in July kind 350 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: of under everyone's breath back you know, they look around 351 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: or not E didn't see anybody. Oh, it must be 352 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: summer baseball. And then you know in the fall, you'd 353 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: hear anything from Bramble or the rat or he could 354 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 1: go up. And then I look around and where are 355 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,239 Speaker 1: they that nobody's looking at me? Oh yes, that's right. 356 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: It's football season. So they just yell it out. They 357 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: see you walking and yeah, yeah, no need to bother you. 358 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: They acknowledge you buy by just throwing out something. I smile. 359 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: Why not, my goodness, If we're on, you and I 360 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: as long as we've been on, and no one knows 361 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: what we've done or what we what we do, then 362 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: then we've kind of failed, right, I guess how did 363 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: you become a Bills fan? I'll try not to make 364 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: this too long. The first part of the equation is 365 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: the AFL Okay Dan So, I grew up at Chase 366 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: Stadium with the Jets Dad season tickets, two young boys, 367 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: nine and seven, sixty four. They moved to Chase Stadium, 368 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: the World's Fair, We got tickets name at sixty five, etc. 369 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: The Bills as a nine and ten year old were 370 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 1: the first champ of my league. So you know, as 371 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: you're a young kid, you know who's like good and 372 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: who's not right. So there was a soft spot from then. 373 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: They were the first champs that I remember. And oddly enough, 374 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: they could have played in the first Super Bowl if 375 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: they had won three in a row. But the Chiefs 376 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: be them. It's just a little an's nothing gonna do 377 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: with Sunday. But it's a little footnote. And then fast forward, 378 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: which we you and I probably talked about in the days. 379 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: And I used to go to a lot of training camps, 380 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: ten and twelve of them. You know, one day here, 381 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: one day there. It's not like baseball. I mean, you're 382 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: traveling blah blah, it's the last of twelve teams that 383 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: I saw at eighty eight. And I'm not Bill Polly, 384 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: and I'm not I'm not any why I can't stand 385 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: on the sideline and tell you in a day when 386 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: you have But this team looked like the best that 387 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: I saw. And there were seven and eight the year before. 388 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: Here's Jim Kelly throwing, and rookie Thurman Thomas and Bruce 389 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: Smith is the number one pick, Corneli, you spent it. 390 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: They traded for and Andre Read et cetera. There I 391 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: picked him for the Super Bowl. Then I just you know, 392 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: I am the Swami. I throw things out there. Some 393 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: of them stick right, and and now they did get 394 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: to the championship game, office set everyone, what are you nuts? 395 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: And they started four and oh etc. Well I went 396 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: up to cover them, and I know this is an 397 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: answer longer than you want, but I went up to 398 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: cover them before their first playoff game, which was against 399 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: Houston and Glanville, not the Frank Wright game, but another one. 400 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: And Mr Glenville wasn't coaching them in that game. But 401 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: I get ready to leave to go back to the airport, 402 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: and I get to the airport at whatever seven thirty 403 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: for the flight to Hartford, and there's a couple of 404 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: TV cameras. There's Bill Pollian, there's the mayor or the 405 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: first city councilor I forget exactly, and they hastily like 406 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: stopped me and present me the keat of the city. Now, 407 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: all I did was predict their football team. But the 408 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: folks in Buffalo, as you know, you know, they're their 409 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: national punchline. It's no you know. And and the fact 410 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: that I just supported their football team, they wanted me 411 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: to know that I was one of them. And so 412 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: you can't turn down that kind of love. And my 413 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: forty one years at ESPN, I mean that's as far 414 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: as you know a fan base from Afar. I mean 415 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: that that's something it's rewarded me to this day. But 416 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: of course with that team, I mean I keep in 417 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: touch with all of them. But did you catch any 418 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: grief from management at ESPN that you were, I guess 419 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: openly rooting for a team. I mean, you had fun 420 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: with it, but you were nobody circles the wagons like 421 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. You also, you know, love the Niners 422 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: as well. I didn't know if management said, let's try 423 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: to be unbiased here. Well, I don't think I was biased. 424 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: I'm allowed to pick whoever I want, right like, and 425 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: then if I start to be two and twenty, you 426 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: better analyze. Said, well I'm going with the Bills. Well 427 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: I lost by thirty again, you idiot. You know so no, 428 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: because I didn't feel I was walking a line. Dan. 429 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: First of all, in those years, all of us had 430 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: teams as long as it and I rarely got accused. 431 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: And I think this is true. I know it's true 432 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: of it as long as it doesn't shade what you 433 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: see or what you say. They play the game. Well, 434 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: there were the refs they screwed. They'll stop, and I 435 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: don't think it ever did. I tried very hard to 436 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: make sure that it never did to this day, and 437 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: it also was helpful. San Francisco was kind of a 438 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: non thought the Niners until they won with Montana. They 439 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: were not a national team at all, as it turns out. 440 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't piling on the Dallas Cowboys or 441 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers or the New York teams, the teams 442 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: I kind of adopted. As it turned out, we're kind 443 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: of the corners of the country where they didn't have 444 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: national voices in Buffalo. I know it's not the corner, 445 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: but just bear with me. Early on then Tampa you remember, right, 446 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: certainly San Diego and Seattle, well those weren't so these 447 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: were teams that there wasn't an abundance of national quote 448 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: voices for them. But as long as it doesn't affect 449 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: your ability to be honest, I don't think anybody who's 450 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: a sports fan can hold against you like some teams 451 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: more than other that nothing's changed in my all my 452 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: years there. What would your approach be if you were 453 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: just starting out now with ESPN as opposed to when 454 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: you were there in the embryonic stages? Good question, Well, 455 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: I would hope I had the hair that I had. 456 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: I think I saved some pillow somewhere, but I can't 457 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: put my hand on it right at the moment. Then, 458 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: But um not unbelievably different, because I think deep down 459 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: our job is to get it right, to convey the information. 460 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: I think that, well, my excitement is real. I mean, 461 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: you know me personally, I'm kind of the same way. 462 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that I shout down every aisle of 463 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: the supermarket, but I think enthusiasm when it's genuine has 464 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: appreciated whatever job you do, whether it's digging ditches or 465 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: whether we're on TV doing sports, which is a little 466 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: easier to be enthusiastic about. And I think as long 467 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: as you are yourself, I think those three things. I mean, 468 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: I would tell any young sportscaster, radio, TV you're hopeful 469 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: to do those things, don't be enthusiastic if if you're 470 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: more of a bobbily type. It's not to say that 471 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: Bob didn't enjoy it, but he's different than me or you, 472 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: and I have the utmost respect for Bob obviously to 473 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: this day. So I don't think in that at the 474 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: very base of starting out then that there would be 475 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,959 Speaker 1: that much difference. Those catchphray, you know, the things that 476 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: are nicknames, etc. I never did those to be hey, 477 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: I can be famous, because that doesn't work in the 478 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: long run. So those three things, I still would be 479 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: the same in that way. Now obviously medium and everything 480 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: has changed some, but we would adapt to whatever technologies 481 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: are now versus then or etc. I think you probably 482 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: if someone asked you that, you'd be pretty similar answer. 483 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: I would think, so, well, they didn't want us to 484 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: be ourselves, and you probably ran into this as well, 485 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: that certain management members didn't want you to do those 486 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:53,479 Speaker 1: nicknames or be yourself. Keith and I faced that same 487 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: kind of barrier. There. There was a glass ceiling that 488 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: we didn't realize, and then when we did, it was 489 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: probably too late. Now the days, you know, they're begging 490 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: for talent to be Hey, go in there and have fun, 491 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: be big, be you know, don't don't be afraid, whereas 492 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: we tiptoed late at night. And I'm sure you probably 493 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: had your moments where you had somebody who said, hey, 494 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: can you cut out the nicknames here? Well I did, 495 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: and we no need to go one of that story 496 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: they did at the end of a baseball season at 497 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: eighty five and they were back in eighty six and 498 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: he was gone. So they fucked the law and the 499 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: law one I think, but I don't. That's a long law. Yeah, 500 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: we're good with that. We've moved we we've moved on 501 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: from that. Yeah. I still tell people about the Charlotte Observer. 502 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: When I first got there, and I was for some reason, 503 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: I had to observe the making of sports center for 504 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: I think at least two months, and you just saw 505 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: me come in. I'd sit down, I wouldn't say anything. 506 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: I would just watch you guys write Sports Center. And 507 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: then every day I walked in and you went the 508 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: Charlotte Observer, and I just said. My wife would say, 509 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: how does it go? And I said, Chris Berman calls 510 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: me the Charlotte Observer. I said, I don't know if 511 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: he likes me or not, but he calls me the 512 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: Charlotte Observer and she goes okay, and then I explained 513 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: it to her. But yeah, and then my first show 514 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: was when Chris stayed after doing the eleven o'clock and 515 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: he stayed for my first one, so forever in debt 516 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: as he went on and helped the Charlotte Observer. So 517 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm to blame. Huh, yeah, whatever happened, Yeah, you helped me, 518 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: but just quickly to get a truckle out of you. 519 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: You know. The beauty was my style? Was it not 520 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: to mean that anybody at any moment couldn't say, you know, 521 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: cut you know, pipe it down, or cut it out, 522 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: or or tone it or change it. The beauty of 523 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: figuring this out in the eighties is we I don't 524 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: know who was watching in the very early stages. Now, 525 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: I was a little not wild and we didn't crack 526 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: eggs on our head. We were all into sports. But 527 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: four yearstan I did the two thirty. Now that's eleven 528 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: thirty on that west and you know earlier in Hawaii. 529 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: But what I the tape was expensive. Maybe the bosses 530 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: will never see it. So so a lot of how 531 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: I was established was a decade ahead of you, at 532 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: least at our place. I mean you were at CNN, etc. 533 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: But it's not to say, oh, well, he's already this. 534 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: We can't change his batting style, you know, the way 535 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: he throws the ball. Sure you can, because we we 536 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: can't improve, we're going backwards. But I you know, some 537 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: people were using us as a nightlight early on, and 538 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: that's when I kind of established on the area and 539 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: kind of lurching forward and backwards who I would eventually become. 540 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,959 Speaker 1: I had that advantage. There was nobody observing us all 541 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: right sixty seconds, which is impossible for you. Yeah. Correct, 542 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: Tell me what's going to happen in both title games 543 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: this weekend. Well, we'll start with the Chiefs because as 544 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: we speak, we don't know if Mahomes is playing, and 545 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: for us to guess, I mean I think he would, 546 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: but that's not the Chiefs hiding information right, Yeah, I 547 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: think if he plays and he you know, is pretty 548 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: I think we have you know, we didn't get the 549 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: games last weekend. We thought we would as far as 550 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: you know, points, etc. I think that's a twenty four 551 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: somebody fun And the other one, wow, can you pick 552 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: against Tom? But he and Gronka played in the cold, 553 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: But I don't know about a lot of others. Aaron 554 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: Rodgers is on such a level that Tom will have 555 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: to be his very best. Would you certainly capable of 556 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: doing to be? That's another twenty twenty four ish notice 557 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: I'm heading are Well, which is on swammy Like, um, 558 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: I would lean to the Packers And on the first one, 559 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm so close with both teams, you know, Andy Reid 560 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: and me, Um, A big part of me would like 561 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: the Bills to get to the super Bowl and then 562 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: my god, are they're going to be staring at Tom 563 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: Brady twenty years like, oh oh no, not him? Or well? 564 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: Will the Chiefs have that rare opportunity dan to be 565 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: a repeat champ and that doesn't come around a lot. 566 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: And I they're at home, I'd give the edge to 567 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: the two home teams. As we speak at this moment. 568 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: It's great to talk to you as always. Hope you're 569 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: hope you're doing well and having fun. I am at 570 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: primetime on Real TV, ESPN, the original you know before 571 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: they change the cans, and good to talk to your 572 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: power best best home. Okay, thank thank you, Chris. That's 573 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: Chris Berman, the ESPN NFL primetime co host and member 574 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: of the Football Hall of Fame. Thanks for listening to 575 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us 576 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: live every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or six 577 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local 578 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: station for The Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports Radio 579 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 580 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching f s R, or stream us 581 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: live on the Peacock app. Ian Eagan will be on 582 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: the call. He's got the AFC title game Westwood One. 583 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: Busy guy. He was yet Yes, Yes, Nets play by 584 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: Playboys last night of course all season long as he 585 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: got a chance to see the nets and the calves. 586 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: I guess the nets fully assembled with Kyrie back. You 587 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: want to start with football? You want to start with 588 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: the game last night? Ian, Hey, Dan, before we start, 589 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: could I just tell you how I became a New 590 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: York Arrows fan. Yes, yes, I door soccer league. Yeah, 591 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: became such a huge part of my life. Steve Jungle 592 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: was an icon. Yeah, and I just couldn't get enough 593 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: of it. I consumed it every day twenty four seven 594 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: and it lives with me today. That's all I wanted 595 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: to know. I I wish yeah, I wish you will 596 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: all the best. That this was like a quasi human 597 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: moment that we get said, thank you. Are you preparing 598 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: for both quarterbacks? You know so as a play by 599 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 1: play guy, you know we hear defenses, got to prepare 600 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: for both quarterbacks? Are you prepared for Chad Henny and 601 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes this weekend? Dan? This is this is why 602 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,439 Speaker 1: you're the best interviewer in the business. Nobody has ever 603 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: asked me, are you prepared for Chad Henny? Do you 604 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: have your call straight? Henything can happen? Let's go get 605 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: the ad libs moving. I'm I'm ready either way. I 606 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: feel very comfortable that I can handle it. If if 607 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: it is Henny, I'll make the adjustment. Dan, you're a pro, 608 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 1: You're a prose pro. You're a prose pro. But when 609 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: you prepare for these games. How important is it that 610 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: you you know, you get the access to these players, 611 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: are these coaches, and you know by doing this remotely 612 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 1: trying to get access, how difficult is that. That's probably 613 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: been the strangest part of the season, the lack of interaction, 614 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: not just with players and coaches that were accustomed to 615 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: doing the network games, but each other. We did not 616 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: have one production meeting in person. Everything was done virtually, 617 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: and you make the most of that when you can, 618 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: and you do have people's attention. You also see people 619 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: in some rather strange setups. I must admit that that 620 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: throws you a bit when you get a little deeper inside, 621 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: like me, for right now, I'm I'm not where you 622 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: think I am. You know, I have to do what 623 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: I have to do. I get a rental in Wyoming, 624 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: and this is this is what we're doing for the season. 625 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: You don't have pants on, I don't. I don't. But no, 626 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: you nailed it. The access or lack thereof. Yes, there's 627 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: definitely a part of the broadcast that suffered because of it. 628 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: But you find other ways, and even on these zoom calls, 629 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: you you figure out a way to connect with a 630 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: player and find something that's a little different. That might 631 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 1: create a unique answer that you can use on the air. 632 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: But we we did not go to one facility the 633 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: entire season, and our schedule was very strict, get to 634 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: the city, test, wait for your test result in your 635 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: room until you get it, and then even then very 636 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: limited access to to other people. What's on the bookshelf 637 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: back there? This? Uh, this is my wife's office. I 638 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 1: have no idea. Well, you've got bobble heads there? You 639 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: got a basket? Yes? Hold on, hold on, I have 640 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: a dress designer, Dave. What what do we got going here? 641 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: Dan wants to know. I'll figure it out. Like, I'm 642 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: just curious. You don't even know what's behind you? He's 643 00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: I an Eagle or ian Igel the Yes Network play 644 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 1: I play voice for You've been called that, haven't you before? 645 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: Oh very much. I've been called Ian Egle. I've been 646 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 1: called ian Eaglay. I've been called iron Eagle. I've been 647 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: called Yon Eagle. I've been called many things that I 648 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: can't even say. On your Family Friendly show. At what 649 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: point last night did you realize that the Nets might 650 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: be in trouble against the pesky Cavaliers. When Colin Sexton 651 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: had a out of body experience. Didn't you say Colin 652 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 1: Sexton is not human? Yes, And I want to make 653 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: sure everybody understands that's correct, that that is not a 654 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: criticism that is applauded. I'm saying that he's gone beyond 655 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: what we thought was humanly capable. So I hope he 656 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: takes that as a positive. That's that's what it was 657 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: meant as. Yeah, they they ran out of gas clearly, obviously. 658 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: Sexton hits a three at the end of regulation, the 659 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: nets can't convert. There's a foul call that gets overturned, 660 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: but a jump ball knock to the backcourt. They go 661 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,919 Speaker 1: to overtime. Sexton starts to heat up, and then as 662 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: we saw, he took over in the second ot. It's 663 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: one game. We all want instant gratification, as we know 664 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 1: and live. People love instant coffee and instant dating. This 665 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: is going to take a little bit of time for 666 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: things to gel and mesh, but boy is it going 667 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: to be entertaining and fun along the way. Do you 668 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,919 Speaker 1: have answers? Do you care about answers from Kyrie Irving? Yeah, 669 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: I think the concern for me would be if he's 670 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: garnering joy from this That to me is the real question. 671 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: He didn't show a whole lot of emotion in the game. 672 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: And look, I'm not gonna play psychiatrists. I can only 673 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,399 Speaker 1: see what I see. I'm not even at the game, 674 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: you know. Let's let's face facts. I'm watching it from 675 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: a screen at Barclay Center when the game is in Cleveland. 676 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: So you want to talk about lacking nuance, You're getting 677 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: no nuance. You can only see what they show you. 678 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: But what I could gather was the first time he 679 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: really emoted was when that offensive foul was called on him, 680 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: and then you saw some of the facial expressions. He's 681 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: definitely going through some stuff right now, and the biggest 682 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: key is that he gets through that. And from a 683 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: team standpoint, they need someone that is fully committed and 684 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 1: all in. And if there's some things happening in his 685 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 1: private life that are affecting that, then he's going to 686 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: have to take care of that before this team can 687 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: really turn the page and focus on winning a championship. 688 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 1: When you do play by play, how much of it 689 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 1: is focused on the monitor as opposed to watching the 690 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: game itself. Yeah, NFL, I've probably lean more towards the 691 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: monitor over the last couple of years than I had 692 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: in previous years, trying to make sure that I'm talking 693 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: to pictures. So I would say it's in that fifty 694 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:07,800 Speaker 1: fifty range for NFL. For NBA, I was normally under 695 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:13,399 Speaker 1: normal circumstances, I was seventy thirty live action thirty off 696 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: the monitor, and right now we're one hundred percent basically 697 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: even the home games, because you're high up. I find 698 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,959 Speaker 1: myself cheating towards the monitor more than I ever did 699 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 1: when I was courtside, just to make sure that my 700 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 1: eyes are matching what I think I'm seeing on the court. 701 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:37,280 Speaker 1: It's definitely been an adjustment. Look, nobody at home probably cares, 702 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: and nor should they. It's the play by play person's challenge, 703 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: and you've got to figure it out in your own way. 704 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 1: Have you ever stopped talking while just watching a play, 705 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: like you almost forget that you're supposed to be calling 706 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:56,720 Speaker 1: the play that you're watching. Yeah, I would say now 707 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: more than ever, that part actually creeps into your head 708 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: because you're not there. There's the moment of detachment that 709 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,919 Speaker 1: you feel that, man, I'm just watching this like everybody else, 710 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: but you have to call it. I've been pretty fortunate 711 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: that I've maintained the running commentary, but there have been 712 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 1: a few moments where my normal muscle memory is not 713 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: kicked in of what I'm seeing, synthesizing the information and 714 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 1: spitting it out. I would say this year, Dan, and 715 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: even a truncated season, I probably made two or three 716 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: mistakes on identification, and I went through maybe a ten 717 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:45,240 Speaker 1: year stretch where I made zero mistakes. Identification just based 718 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: on your brain taking in the information, processing it, thinking 719 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: you saw something, and then questioning for a moment if 720 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: you did. How much do you follow social media after 721 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: a game you've done? I do of a burner account. 722 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 1: I'll be the first to admit that it's Todd Fritz eleven. 723 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: If you want to follow me on Twitter, I follow 724 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: a little bit. I definitely have people that send me 725 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: things so I know what's happening. I'm aware of what's 726 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:28,479 Speaker 1: being talked about. Oh Man, NFL games, I would say 727 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: I take a day off after the game. I just learned, 728 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: probably two years ago that that would maintain my sanity. 729 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: I must say I don't get it as bad as others, 730 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: so I'm certainly not in a position to complain. I 731 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: try to bring across a affable quality dan that resonates. 732 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: It is evident right now. Oh, I'm saying, please don't Twitter, World, 733 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: don't don't kill me. Who's the play by playboys that 734 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: you want to fight? Right now? Yeah? Just if I 735 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: had to take on one play by play voice right now? Yeah? WHOA, 736 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,439 Speaker 1: that's a great Could you take Joe Buck? You know, Joe, 737 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: Joe's obviously bigger than me. I think I think I 738 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: could surprise Joe in the lower extremity areas that he 739 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 1: may not be anticipating that I would attack eagle once 740 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: a piece of Joe Buck and but literally all below 741 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,760 Speaker 1: the way. Yes, yea, lay off the money maker, Joe, 742 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,399 Speaker 1: stay away from the face. What advice did you give 743 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: your son when he did the NFL game on Nickelodeon. 744 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: I did not want to inundate him, so I just 745 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: gave him three pieces of advice that I thought could 746 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 1: help him in the broadcast. One, I said, you have 747 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: to have command when this game goes on the air. 748 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: People have to realize that this is unique, this is different, 749 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: and it's going to start with you. It's going to 750 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: emanate from you. If you set the tone early, then 751 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 1: people will get it too. You have to be a 752 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: really good point guard, a traffic cop, get everybody involved. 753 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: If you sense that somebody isn't getting a touch, get 754 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 1: them a touch. And then three, you must have fun. 755 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 1: The whole point of the broadcast is to have fun. 756 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: And if that's not coming across on the air, if 757 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,280 Speaker 1: you guys aren't laughing, if you're not enjoying each other's company, 758 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: then this thing is not going to work. And he 759 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: checked every box. I was really really impressed with how 760 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: he handled him. He did a great job. And you know, 761 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,280 Speaker 1: I thought that Nate Burlison did a wonderful job as well. 762 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,839 Speaker 1: Just he's a star. Yeah, he is a true television superstar. Yeah. Well, 763 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,839 Speaker 1: it's great to talk to you, and too good luck 764 00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: Now you don't Do you get to go to Kansas 765 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 1: or are you staying at home for the game? No? 766 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: Kansas City. I do travel, you do, so I will 767 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 1: be in Kansas City, and I should mention in the NFL. 768 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 1: I did travel the entire season, and that was odd. 769 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 1: Like airports are empty for the most part, TSA, you're 770 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 1: getting through for me sometimes forty five seconds. And people 771 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 1: have been very respectful of other people's space. Normally it 772 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 1: was the herd mentality when they did the boarding process. 773 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: Now people lay back and wait. So it's been nice. 774 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: It's been a nice change. Yeah. I wasn't going to 775 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: listen to the game or watch the game, But now 776 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 1: that I've spoken to I'm gonna I'm gonna listen to 777 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay in my car and listen to Westwood 778 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,839 Speaker 1: One and I'm not gonna watch it. This is why 779 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 1: we do the interviews. I want you to the promotion. 780 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,839 Speaker 1: I want you to paint the picture for me. I am. 781 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,319 Speaker 1: I Am going to paint the word picture and the 782 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 1: whole time I'm going to be thinking about fighting Joe 783 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: Buck and his lower extremities. Are you doing? Because if 784 00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: you're not doing the super Bowl, then I'm not going 785 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 1: to be I'm not gonna be watching. I will be 786 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl. I will be in a secondary 787 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: host role, and I will also be in a Jose 788 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:15,839 Speaker 1: Okendo type set up. Wait, how did Jose Okendo? That's 789 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: a deep reference here, deep reference. I have to be 790 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: ready for a number of roles. First needed you Are 791 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 1: you an understudy to Jim Nance at the Super Bowl? 792 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: Were you a Seinfeld viewer? Yeah? Yeah, so Bett Midler's understudy. 793 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,240 Speaker 1: It didn't go that word Chelle Rochelle, Rochelle Rochelle. I didn't. 794 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: I didn't want to. I don't want to say that. 795 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,399 Speaker 1: It's it's comparative to that, but it might be. So 796 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to confirm that, but I'm certainly not 797 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: going to deny it. And Nan snows your name, right, 798 00:46:53,680 --> 00:47:00,720 Speaker 1: I think so? Okay, But if nance now show you 799 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: are calling the super Bowl, Hey, we're counting on you 800 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,839 Speaker 1: this weekend. But wait, are you doing the Nets game 801 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 1: on Friday? I am against the Cavaliers. I am? Oh 802 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 1: my god, Colin Sexton is not human. Hold on, let 803 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,919 Speaker 1: me write that. Okay, I should use that. Thank you, bun. 804 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: That's Ian Egel or I an Eagle. The Nets play 805 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 1: by play voice also does NFL on CBS and Westwood One. 806 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 1: Got a lot of jobs. Thanks for listening to The 807 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live 808 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or six to 809 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 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