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Speaker 1: That's weird. Well, I mean I didn't know that I

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Speaker 1: I just you know, went to a friends of a

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Speaker 1: guy you want to call today. Well, his name Travis,

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Speaker 1: And like I said, I was introduced by kind of

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Speaker 1: He wasn't shocked when there was a babysitter at your house. No, No,

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Speaker 1: Any idea why I might be calling you? Honestly, No,

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Speaker 1: answer a text for me, Nicole. They were asking questions,

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Speaker 1: yes I answered them, and I didn't answer your text.

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Speaker 1: What am I supposed to say to you? Your C

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Speaker 1: I will pay for it. Oh William, Yeah, why don't

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Speaker 1: want to go out again. No, definitely not. And you

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Speaker 1: know what, Jewil, You're right, I'm way too put together.

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Speaker 1: See all right? Well, Travis, thank you for your time.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. All right, No more single mommies for you.

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Speaker 1: You got that, okay, And don't call them single mommies

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Speaker 1: because that sounds creepy. Jewil in the morning,