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Speaker 1: Ready to go over the show, Martin, And then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, bam, the Celtics said, we don't like

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Speaker 1: none of y'all except Jason Tatum, and they're getting rid

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Speaker 1: of somebody else too, and that is Christap Porzingis this

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Speaker 1: just coming out that he is going to be traded

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Speaker 1: to three way trade?

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Speaker 3: So looking at that right now.

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Speaker 4: Boston Atlanta Brooklyn three team trade Christaps and a second

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Speaker 4: round pick from Boston to Atlanta, Terrence Man and Atlanta's

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Speaker 4: twenty second overall pick to the Nets, George Niang and

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Speaker 4: a second rounder back to Boston.

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Speaker 1: So it sounded like Boston just wanted to get move

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Speaker 1: on essentially from christ porzingis number one. Unless I'm missing something,

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Speaker 1: Has it come out what his issue was during this postseason?

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Speaker 3: No, I have not seen that reporting right.

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Speaker 1: And I haven't seen it, and it's kind of just

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Speaker 1: one of those things because Jason Tatum goes down and

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Speaker 1: that obviously hogs all the headlines, and so we stopped

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Speaker 1: talking about it. But that was just strange, and he

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Speaker 1: wasn't right, something respiratory, and he just he never looked right,

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Speaker 1: and they were trying to give him some minutes, and

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Speaker 1: you thought, all right, Tatum goes down, you still got

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Speaker 1: Jaylen Brown. And if you have a eighty percent Christa Pazingis,

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Speaker 1: then you feel all right, we got a shot with

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Speaker 1: all the rest of the guys, and he just never

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Speaker 1: could get right. And that's why I think this trade

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Speaker 1: is easy for them. Obviously there's more trades that have

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Speaker 1: conversations about with specifically this one, because I think for them,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of easy to move on when I never

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Speaker 1: really had, you, you know, and he hasn't been able

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Speaker 1: to play much last season. He was in and out

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Speaker 1: the postseason exactly and ultimately because they were so low

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Speaker 1: that they won three balls going for him and they

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Speaker 1: were deep. But then this year out all the time,

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Speaker 1: and he's been historically injured, injury prone, whether it was

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Speaker 1: with the Mavericks, Weather was it with the Knicks. So

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Speaker 1: I think for this him, Sure, in a perfect world,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't we want a seven foot three guy who can

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Speaker 1: stretch the floor. Shoot, it's still relatively young and you know,

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Speaker 1: can still produce. But if he ain't there what we

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Speaker 1: always talk about availability being the best ability, and that's

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Speaker 1: not the case for him. So to me, they had

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Speaker 1: to do what they had to do, and they're on

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Speaker 1: fire right now.

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Speaker 3: Whole sale.

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Speaker 1: Anybody ain't make a call right now if you wanted

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Speaker 1: somebody on this roster. Phone lines are open. We got

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Speaker 1: multiple phones. There's a batphone if you really want something good,

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Speaker 1: called the batphone. And to me, the Celtics are open

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Speaker 1: for business. Martin, Yeah, this was I mean.

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Speaker 4: And the first sign up obviously of that was the

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Speaker 4: trade of Drew Holliday.

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Speaker 3: Are the all of these are reported right now that.

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Speaker 4: Can't be done until I can't hint stand it, like

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Speaker 4: they get over it? Where is the soap opera? It

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Speaker 4: drives me nuts. No, just confirm it, just confirm it.

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Speaker 4: Just let it be done. The drafts is tomorrow they

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Speaker 4: go to be apporting two shams and the rest of

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Speaker 4: them who say this is gonna be very active draft

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Speaker 4: like we're seeing picks get moved left, right, and center.

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Speaker 4: We've seen two picks get traded in the last two

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Speaker 4: be kids who get up there and wear the wrong

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Speaker 4: eight o'clock Pacific time, Kristaps porzingis posted on Instagram, thanks

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Speaker 4: for all the supporting questions about my health. With the

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Speaker 4: little heart sign emotion that the kids do, now you

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Speaker 1: I watched line I've seen some people on like, that's

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Speaker 4: Also, couldn't imagine celebrating a championship such as that. I

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Speaker 4: So you're expecting him to play with this national team?

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Speaker 4: Source actual Kristaps Porzingers on Instagram. But he won't be

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Speaker 4: playing for the Boston Celtics. As his NBA season comes

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Speaker 4: back into your point, they won't like the year prior.

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Speaker 4: So three years back now, which is ancient history in

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Speaker 4: got Christaps Porzingis and apparently it didn't matter if they

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Speaker 4: because he wasn't able to do that in either postseason run. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: the one last year ended in a title, this one

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Speaker 4: in the second round. But this was the writing on

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Speaker 4: the wall for the Celtics all at every point, no

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Speaker 4: matter what happened this year, this team was going to

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Speaker 4: be too expensive for everything to continue to go along

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Speaker 4: the way it was. Jason Tatum's achilles injury makes it

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Speaker 4: just clarity, like, Yeah, the Boston Celtics that you have

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Speaker 4: been in the Eastern Conference Finals, that when you trade

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Speaker 4: for Anthony Simons is dead in that moment.

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Speaker 1: And you're speaking to Anthony Simons. So a lot of

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Speaker 1: I know it's a conversation about for you, you feel

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Speaker 1: like none of these will actually amount to anything, says

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Speaker 4: So to me, we're seeing all these all these trades

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Speaker 4: get done, right. We see so many different and this

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Speaker 4: is a big thing. We're gonna see how like Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong, Major Domino, but they're gonna be Oh,

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Speaker 4: what is what is Kris Stap's gonna do with Atlanta?

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Speaker 4: And what is all these different moves as they're made.

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Speaker 4: Because Drew Holliday is gonna get traded again, probably he's

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Speaker 4: there's no reason to get excited for any of them

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Speaker 4: unless the guy coming back to your team is Devin Booker. Okay,

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Speaker 4: Devin Booker right now is the only player that is

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Speaker 4: So I'm talking about what used to be reasonably available

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Speaker 4: to me is the one that you can get him

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Speaker 4: on your roster. You can walk in and take you

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Speaker 4: from a team that is competing for out of bordering

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Speaker 4: they're not a real competitor and share enough lost in

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Speaker 4: the first round. I'm talking about you. I'm talking about

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Speaker 4: you looking at a team up there like the Lakers

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Speaker 4: were a three seed I thought were real competitors. Obviously lost,

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Speaker 4: But the point is, are the Cleveland or whoever those

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Speaker 1: I hear you, and I can't even say that I

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Speaker 1: disagree because I think Devin Booker is that good and

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Speaker 1: I think he's just been having a bad rap because

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Speaker 1: we forget, dude went to the finals a few years back,

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Speaker 1: so it's not like he's just been in the seventh

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Speaker 1: there are certain players who can still make a difference

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Speaker 1: who maybe aren't household names to the non obviously who

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Speaker 1: do what we do and talk sports for a living.

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Speaker 1: There are guys like now that I know the Celtics

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Speaker 1: are opening the phone lines, Martin, but no, no, no, hey,

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Speaker 1: new ownership, can I get a guy named Derek White?

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Speaker 1: Because I think Dereck White is the type of player

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Speaker 1: Okay, tonight, you might need me to just play defense

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Speaker 1: and do this guy tonight you might need to drop thirty.

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Speaker 3: He's been capable and able to do that.

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Speaker 1: I think there are a handful of non Devin Booker

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Speaker 4: And I think if you are a average team and

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Speaker 4: saying if you are if you're eighteen, like right now

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Speaker 4: the Eastern Conference, if you are from from the tenth

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Speaker 3: The first seed, should be thinking we have a shot

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Speaker 3: without a doubt. I don't. So that's what I'm saying

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Speaker 3: right now. It is. That's how wide open it is.

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Speaker 4: With the injuries that we have had from the premier juggernauts,

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Speaker 4: I think you have Cleveland right now is the prohibitive,

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Speaker 4: off the top of my head, favorite in the East

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Speaker 4: because of the health and what they all got back,

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Speaker 3: The Knicks don't have a coach or they'd be the favorite, right.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, the only team that will be

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Speaker 1: this will probably be the Knicks thinking now we're we

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Speaker 1: now after this season, we should be the ones.

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Speaker 4: And I did this exercise thinking something that I'm sure

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Speaker 4: you probably thought as well. How many teams in the

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Speaker 4: East do I get to before Detroit is a real contender?

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Speaker 1: So I told I don't remember we talked about this

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Speaker 4: And so I'm sitting I'm three four five, I'm writing

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Speaker 4: the same boat with you, thinking and how the matchup

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Speaker 1: I don't know what y'all gonna do when I really

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Speaker 4: You're gonna do Just like Lebron he said, I wake

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Speaker 3: Gotta be you.

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Speaker 1: change everything. And then year two or three, Cooper can

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Speaker 1: bust on the scene, be that guy and It'll be

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Speaker 1: like to me a perfect roll out if you will,

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Speaker 1: where now this is your team, you're the guy.

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Speaker 3: Here you go.

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Speaker 1: The baton has passed you because too many times guys

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Speaker 1: have all the expectation of the world on a nineteen

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Speaker 1: year old he come changes franchise and.

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Speaker 4: If we see guys, there have been a handful of

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Speaker 4: guys that can do it in the last fifteen years.

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Speaker 4: I'd say the only number one of the two number

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Speaker 4: one overall picks that really changed the direction of a

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Speaker 4: franchise would be number one Anthony Edwards and two Paolo Banco.

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Speaker 4: And I'd say outside of that, that's not that's just

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Speaker 4: that's agreeing. Yeah, it just doesn't happen any Davis came out.

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Speaker 4: But again, the Pelican did not truly change their trajectory

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Speaker 4: to not become like Ben Carroll has been in the

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Speaker 4: playoffs the last two years, even though they have not

452
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Speaker 4: won a round. Anthony Ewards has been back to back

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Speaker 4: conference finals, right, And I know that people say what

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Speaker 4: you will, but hell sos Tliburton, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: like such as I's got hurt who asked the rix?

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Speaker 3: I don't care. I'm not an English teacher.

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Speaker 4: So I just watched the games and say, hey, you

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Speaker 4: know what, that team's in the Western Conference finals. They're

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Speaker 4: probably pretty good, and they weren't before he got exactly

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Speaker 4: you're right, and you can see that he's the straw,

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Speaker 4: the straw that starts to drink there with Cooper flag.

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Speaker 3: The thing that I think this is the best case scenario.

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Speaker 4: For him because to your point into I guess, to

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Speaker 4: both of our points, there is a handful that it

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Speaker 4: is rare.

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Speaker 3: It is a it.

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Speaker 4: The idea that you were getting a rookie in general

468
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Speaker 4: that turns around it changes your franchise is rare. The

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Speaker 4: idea even more that you were getting in with the

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Speaker 4: number one overall pick is that much rare? Rot Right, Like,

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Speaker 4: I bet you the Philadelphia seventy six ers would have

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Speaker 4: wished that they had taken Jason Tatum instead of Mark

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Speaker 4: L Foltz, Right, Like, however you feel about Jason Tatum,

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Speaker 4: you know, you feel better about it than you do

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Speaker 4: Mark L.

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Speaker 3: Full Right, And so this is all a very inexact science.

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Speaker 4: And I actually I'm happy that he is going to

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Speaker 4: a place where he has a long stretch of veteran

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Speaker 4: runway in Kyrie and Anthony Davis, who are going to

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Speaker 4: be expected in my opinion, when healthy. I know Kyrie

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Speaker 4: is not gonna be back for probably miss most of

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Speaker 4: this season, so this is maybe a.

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Speaker 3: Year two type of thing. But when the team is.

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Speaker 4: Really good, if Kyrie is still able to do that,

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Speaker 4: he's going to be a guy expected to take a

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Speaker 4: lot of shots, expected to be a primary ball handler,

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Speaker 4: because I'm not sure if Cooper Flaggs that will be

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Speaker 4: able to would be able to do that at the

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Speaker 4: highest level day one.

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Speaker 3: He's still moving well.

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Speaker 1: Somebody who clearly changed the case for a lot of

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Speaker 1: team three of them. In fact, he went and won

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Speaker 1: a championship for that Lebron and he had a lot

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Speaker 1: to say about.

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Speaker 3: He has MVP four MVPs.

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Speaker 1: And had the conversation with Steve national MINDU podcast about

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Speaker 1: what is the help me out, what's the criteria?

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Speaker 3: What are we doing? What is an MVP. Here's what

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Speaker 3: Bron had to say.

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Speaker 5: It's changes. It's like, okay, it's always it the is

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Speaker 5: it the best player, you know, is it the is

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Speaker 5: it the player that had the best season with his team,

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Speaker 5: you know, maybe that's offensive player of the year, you know,

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Speaker 5: or is it the just simply the best player in

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Speaker 5: the league, like statistically was the best player of the

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Speaker 5: year league? You know, no matter, you know, obviously you're

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Speaker 5: not gonna have a guy in there that's like, doesn't

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Speaker 5: the team didn't come close to making the playoffs? Well obviously,

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Speaker 5: because if that's the case, then he's not the best player,

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Speaker 5: you know, but it's not the most valuable then. But

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Speaker 5: if it's I don't know, it's just it's just changes.

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Speaker 5: It changes too much.

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Speaker 4: I completely agree and it is something that as somebody

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Speaker 4: who has worked in the national media since twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 4: I feel like I sometimes get gas lit by what

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Speaker 4: the conversation is on a yearly basis over how we

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Speaker 4: define who the most valuable player in the NBA is.

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Speaker 4: Because when I broke into the national media, I was

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Speaker 4: told that averaging a trump double for.

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Speaker 3: The five seed was what made you the MVP and

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Speaker 3: the reason why.

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Speaker 4: They said, well, Kevin Durant left and that was the

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Speaker 4: most narrative based MVP and the like in modern MVP history.

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Speaker 4: And then I felt like we went further down, like

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Speaker 4: that was like the apex of narrative MVP, and then

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Speaker 4: as a result we swung back and was like, now

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Speaker 4: we gotta get stats MVP, and we reached the apex

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Speaker 4: of stats MVP. When Jokic is averaging a million different

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Speaker 4: advanced stats and he's like, well, if you look at

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Speaker 4: his PR and his raptor and his war and his

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Speaker 4: you know, wins, all of this other stuff is you know, ops,

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Speaker 4: is he's killing it?

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Speaker 3: Right? I'm like, all right, right, exactly, Like when.

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Speaker 4: You look at all of that, he's the best player

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Speaker 4: to like, well, I look at his team or the

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Speaker 4: four seat.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 4: I cannot like and and look, Lebron, I'm with you

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Speaker 4: when you right. I'm with you when you right. The

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Speaker 4: offensive player of the of the year in the NBA

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Speaker 4: is it needs to be instituted so badly?

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Speaker 3: I ask you this.

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Speaker 4: Let's say the postseason from game one, round one. I

559
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Speaker 4: know that feels like eight years ago now, but round one,

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Speaker 4: game one to Game seven of the of the NBA Finals,

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Speaker 4: say that was its own season. Who would you say

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Speaker 4: was the MVP of that season the MVP of this postseason.

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Speaker 4: You can pick two or three. I still think it's

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Speaker 4: that SGA. You still think it's that SGA.

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Speaker 1: It was a boring We talked about it yesterday, but

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Speaker 1: dude was putting up thirty on the level that only

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's done. So, I mean, he was balling out

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Speaker 1: of control. If you asked me, who was the most

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Speaker 1: exciting and just what a wild ride? Tyres Helliburn. But

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, he had way too

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Speaker 1: many games of oh that he had fourteen, but.

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Speaker 4: The amount of game winning shots that he hit in

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Speaker 4: that playoffs. With the idea that he's the guy who

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Speaker 4: is the straw that stirs the drink, which I kind of,

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Speaker 4: you know, hand up, my bad, a little over blown.

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Speaker 3: Then I watched.

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Speaker 4: Without him and I was like, oh, okay, no, I'm

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Speaker 4: kind of like cutting this is legit, this is real.

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Speaker 4: And because it's really hard to quantify the absence of

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Speaker 4: turning of like the absence of something missing Tyreek Heliburton

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Speaker 4: not turning the ball over something, it's hard to see,

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Speaker 4: you know, once you see all those pick sixers, like, oh,

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Speaker 4: that's what they were talking about.

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Speaker 3: This is what the this is what the whole thing is.

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Speaker 4: To me, Sga would have been the offensive player of

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Speaker 4: the year on this team, which to me didn't shoot

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Speaker 4: well from the floor.

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Speaker 3: Their key was the defense.

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Speaker 4: Their key was all of that, right, and Chague was

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Speaker 4: not nearly the best defender on the floor competes on

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Speaker 4: the defensive end, but he is benefiting off of the

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Speaker 4: wing defenders that they have out there, the rim protects

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Speaker 4: that they have getting out there making stuff happen on

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Speaker 4: the offensive end. I would have had him be the

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Speaker 4: Offensive Player of the Year in this stretch in the

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Speaker 4: regular season, MVP to me would have been Jokic.

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Speaker 3: Now, the thing is they would give Yokic four MVPs.

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Speaker 4: Well, some of these other ones should have been Offensive

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Speaker 4: Player of the Year awards.

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Speaker 3: That's my point. I gets what you're saying, so but

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Speaker 3: to me, the.

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Speaker 4: Most valuable player is not necessarily the guy who's always

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Speaker 4: scoring the most points on the best team. And I

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Speaker 4: think we end up it just like you said, narrative

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Speaker 4: changes all the time. Offensive player would be who's the

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Speaker 4: best score right now? And I think that's just a

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Speaker 4: much cleaner way to define it. And I think we

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Speaker 4: mix up who's the best scorer and who's the MVP.

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Speaker 3: To me, it's two far for me one.

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Speaker 1: I think the issue is when we universally know the

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Speaker 1: best player is filling the blank, that person needs a

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Speaker 1: flat out be the MVP. And what I mean by

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Speaker 1: that is there was an eight to nine ten year

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Speaker 1: period with Lebron James. You can maybe even go more.

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Speaker 1: I might be selling them short. Was the best player

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Speaker 1: in the NBA period. Everybody know you woke up. Lebron

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Speaker 1: James best player from probably nineteen eighty seven, eighty eight

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Speaker 1: to nineteen ninety eight, except for a couple.

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Speaker 3: Of years, Michael Jordan's the best player in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: So the idea that we then turn around and play

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Speaker 1: and say, ooh will Karl Alone, well, Charles Barkley, Well,

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Speaker 1: ooh remember that year.

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Speaker 3: Ooh, Derreck Rose, It's cute what the bulls are doing?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's and he got demolished in the playoffs, and

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Speaker 1: you saw he looked much. He looked less than going

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Speaker 1: up against a motivated Lebron who was like, let me

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Speaker 1: show y'all how he's not that guy in comparison to me.

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Speaker 1: The point is we do that too often, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: where we all know who the best player is, we

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Speaker 1: all whatever you want to call best player MVP, that

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Speaker 1: person is it, and historically we have not given it

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Speaker 1: to him. And I think a part of that is

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Speaker 1: leads to why I think we'll never have a criteria,

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Speaker 1: because I think people enjoy the idea subconsciously, subliminally in

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Speaker 1: the back of their mind Martin, that they can go, well,

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Speaker 1: let's just give it to somebody else, because otherwise they know,

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Speaker 1: for a ten year period, you probablyoulda gave it to

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 3: For an eight to ten year perier, you would have

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Speaker 3: gave it to to Lebron.

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Speaker 1: There's a period where maybe for five years you just

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Speaker 1: gave it to Peyton Manning like he dude, he's just

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Speaker 1: a nobody like Peyton Manning. You might have just gave

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Speaker 1: it to him. So therefore, I think people subconsciously don't

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Speaker 1: even know that they do want this because it leads

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Speaker 1: for the fodder. It leads for the conversation. It leads

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Speaker 1: for the sports debates and the barbershops and on radio

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Speaker 1: and on TV.

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Speaker 3: No is it Yokis?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 3: Is it Shay?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: Is it Lebron?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 3: Is it Kobe? Is it?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: Is it? Uh? Uh?

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Speaker 1: This person at this person, is it Payton? Or is

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Speaker 1: it you know, Ladaneley and Thomason? And I think it

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Speaker 1: leads to that because of the vagueness of it. I

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Speaker 1: think we ultimately want it. We just don't know that

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Speaker 1: we want it. Otherwise I think people will be bored

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Speaker 1: handed it to Michael Jordan for a decade, handed it

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Speaker 1: to Lebron, handed to Peyton Manning, handed whatever the sport is,

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Speaker 1: handing it to that guy for five sixt year period.

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Speaker 3: And I think subconsciously we like that.

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Speaker 1: We like the debate the fighter Ah No, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I like, is it about the best player on the

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Speaker 1: best team? No, it's guy James Harden is doing stuff

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Speaker 1: we've never seen, thirty five games and leading the league

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Speaker 1: in assists and points. And I think we enjoy that

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Speaker 1: more than we actually know that we do, because I

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Speaker 1: don't think our human nature wants to just give it

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Speaker 1: to And this is why I sat here for what

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Speaker 1: two months, give or take, yelling at Rob Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: is not gonna win the MVP.

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Speaker 3: Look at his numbers.

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Speaker 1: I said, I know you're right. Rob g is my witness,

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Speaker 1: and so of the listeners. I said, people are tired

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Speaker 1: of giving it to him. Yes, the numbers are great,

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Speaker 1: Yes they're better than last season. Guess what they're gonna say,

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Speaker 1: it's Chush Allen's time. Well, he's the first note when

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Speaker 1: they are the All Pro comes out only one time

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Speaker 1: in hard Ford years. Is all Pro get it wrong?

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Speaker 1: I said, well this could be in a union. They

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Speaker 1: can have it again and Josh Allen wins it. My

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Speaker 1: point was human nature gets fatigued of things. It's you

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Speaker 1: can't it's you have to be so self aware to

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Speaker 1: not do that, and you know it is argument always

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Speaker 1: like to be well, Barry Bonds won it all those times,

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Speaker 1: and Ross said yes, because they have two leagues. If

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Speaker 1: they had one, I guarantee you Barry Bonds would not

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Speaker 1: have won it over and over. It's easy, all right,

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Speaker 1: Well he's the best off the area. Somebody mix it up.

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Speaker 1: On the other side. If there was just one MLB MVP,

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Speaker 1: Barry Bonds not have won it. I think it was,

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Speaker 1: what five times in a row, whatever it was, because

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Speaker 1: they would have gotten bored with somebody else who all

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Speaker 1: he's doing is hitting home runs, or they would have

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Speaker 1: found some human nature reason to do that. So I

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Speaker 1: think we don't want it to be that simplistic. So

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Speaker 1: therefore we have different options, we have different people because

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Speaker 1: sometimes in sports there's somebody who's just that good for

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Speaker 1: that period where we'd have to just keep handing it

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Speaker 1: to him or her every year.

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Speaker 4: Well, speaking of handing it out, Dallas Mavericks nine time

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Speaker 4: All Star Kyrie Irving declined his forty three million dollar

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Speaker 4: player option and is signing a three year, one hundred

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Speaker 4: and nineteen million dollar contract with the Dallas Mavericks with

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Speaker 4: a player option. At twenty twenty seven. Kyrie Irving, congratulations

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Speaker 4: on a torn ACL in your thirties with a player

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Speaker 4: option to go ahead and get well. He had forty

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Speaker 4: three coming, so he's a quick math by me bag

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Speaker 4: eighty more over the next two years, and you get

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Speaker 4: to choose whether or not you want that forty In

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Speaker 4: year three, Hey.

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Speaker 1: I'm about to start wearing long fur rabbit ear ear

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Speaker 1: rings in my ear whatever.

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Speaker 3: He wears a salute to his agent, his mother,