1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:01,200 Speaker 1: Welcome in. 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 2: We are rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 3: Let me hit you with some good news. 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: Right off the top, we are within seven points of 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 2: an all time high in the S and P five hundred. 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: SMP five hundred is the five hundred largest companies in 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: America all rolled into an index. If you want to 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: just never have to worry about your stocks, what I 9 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 2: do is SMP five hundred index funds. They set an 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 2: all time high in February. If you remember, you may 11 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: be old enough to remember that back in the day, 12 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: back in April, they started telling you that everything was collapsing, 13 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: that it was a disaster, that you needed to run 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: for the hills. Buck and I said, hey, stay strong. 15 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: If you have some drug powder, some extra money, maybe 16 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 2: it's good time to invest. Dollar cost average stock prices 17 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: dropped tremendously right now, the S and P five hundred 18 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: as I am talking to you, six thousand, one hundred 19 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 2: and thirty nine, the all time record six thousand, one 20 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 2: hundred and forty seven. So we are within about seven 21 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 2: points of setting an all time high for stock prices. 22 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: So even if you bought back in February at the 23 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: absolute height of the market at the all time high. 24 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: If you just did nothing, you have basically the same 25 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: amount of money now on paper as you did then, 26 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: maybe a bit more because you probably would have made 27 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: a little bit in dividends. Again, long term horizons, don't panic. 28 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: It's easy to panic, particularly in a social media era. 29 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: Try to make long time decisions. If you're too emotional, 30 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: maybe don't check stock prices. But every quarter, every six months, 31 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: every ten years, on average they're gonna double. But man, 32 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: you can do the opposite of buying low and selling high. 33 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: There's a lot of sell low and buy highs out 34 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: there when you try to time the market. So just 35 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 2: a positive. Sometimes we don't spend enough time. I'm as 36 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: waiting for clay to go full. 37 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 4: Greed is good. Gordon Gekkis, I'm in a redow is 38 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 4: going to fix that ailing corporation of the USA. 39 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: I will tell you capitalism is in fact a good 40 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 2: economic system, better than all the rest. And anyway, sometimes 41 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: I feel like on a day to day we aren't 42 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: giving the long term horizon. I think we gave great 43 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: advice to everybody back in April, and my advice would 44 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: remain the same. I buy s and P five hundred 45 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: in dex funds and I sit on them and don't 46 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: worry about the day to day. I know sometimes it's 47 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: tough to do, but all of us, anyone who has 48 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: a four to oh one k anyone out there who 49 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: has stocks, you are headed for record highs. Potentially today 50 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 2: stock prices in the first six months of the Trump 51 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: era potentially going to set an all time high. All right, 52 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: we've been talking about Eric Adams and mom Donnie, the 53 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: New York City mayor situation. But just a few minutes ago, 54 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 2: our friend Caroline Levitt, as I told you, was hosting 55 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: a press briefing. And this follows the early morning press 56 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: briefing that Pete Hegseth hosted that dealt with the leaks, 57 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: which tried to suggest that there was not success from 58 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: the Iranian nuclear site attacks on Saturday, and man Caroline 59 00:03:54,880 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: Levitt went scorched earth on the CNN reporter who initially 60 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: he said, Hey, these attacks did not have their desired impact. 61 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: This is what it sounded like. Play cut. 62 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 5: Twenty six, Nataja Bertrand published an article in Politico from 63 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 5: the Intelligence Agency. She said that John Ratcliffe was speaking 64 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 5: without any evidence when he said Iran was attempting to 65 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 5: undermine President Trump's presidential campaign. And then we of course 66 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 5: found out that was absolutely true. In fact, the Biden 67 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 5: administration declassed an Intel report which said they had high 68 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 5: confidence that Iran had done exactly what Ratcliffe alleged. They 69 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 5: did run an influence campaign to hurt President Trump's candidacy. 70 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 5: In fact, we know the Iranians tried to take President 71 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 5: Trump's life. 72 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: And so this is a reporter who has. 73 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 5: Been unfortunately used by people who dislike Donald Trump in 74 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 5: this government to push fake and false narratives. 75 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: She should be ashamed of herself. 76 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 5: And that's not what reporting is. Journalism is trying to 77 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 5: find the facts in the truth. And this week we 78 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 5: saw this same reporter being used to push a fake 79 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 5: narrative to try to under mind the President of the 80 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 5: United States and more importantly, the brave fighter pilots who 81 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 5: conducted one of the most successful operations in United States history. 82 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 4: I mean, she's laying it down. I just would say, 83 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 4: Clay that I've been doing this. You know, we had 84 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 4: our four year aniversary of the show. I've been doing 85 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 4: this media thing for about about fifteen years, and we 86 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 4: had gotten so used to on the right before Trump 87 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 4: came along, that our side was just supposed to always 88 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 4: have this one way courtesy where no matter what the 89 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 4: media says, no matter how they lie, how they attack, 90 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 4: how they do all these things. You know, if you 91 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,679 Speaker 4: go back to the Bush era GOP, it was all, oh, well, 92 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 4: we'll have to get back to you on that, or 93 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 4: you know, let's stick to the matters at hand or whatever. No, 94 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 4: if someone takes a swing at you in a bar fight, 95 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 4: there's really only one thing that you can do in response. 96 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 4: And that is one of the brilliant changes that has 97 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 4: been brought about by trump Ism. Not only we see 98 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 4: by Donald Trump himself, but also with Pete Hegseth dealing 99 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 4: with the media, Caroline I. 100 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: Levitt dealing with the media. 101 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 4: You'll notice there's a lot of questions that get asked, 102 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 4: and it's fine, and they're getting information and they can 103 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 4: write their stories. If you want to ask a real 104 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 4: question to the White House Press secretary or to the 105 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 4: Secretary of Defense, now, hey, can you tell us more 106 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 4: about the following? Hey get you know, they'll respond and 107 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 4: they're respectful. But if you want to say, when did 108 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 4: you stop beating your wife? So to speak, they treat 109 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 4: that like a hostile either interrogation or hostile prosecutor in 110 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 4: a court, as they well should. And I just think 111 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 4: that it's it's such a for so many of us 112 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 4: who've been doing this and watching this for a long time. Clay, 113 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 4: it's such a relief that we don't have to just 114 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 4: watch everyone on the right get skewered and humiliated in 115 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 4: public because that's. 116 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: What decorum demands. 117 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 4: It really doesn't, and this is a much better way. 118 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 4: You know, you meet respect with respect, you meet at 119 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 4: tax with counterattacks. 120 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: I also think this is a sign of how much 121 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: better Trump two point zero is than Trump one point zero. 122 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to take a tax take shots 123 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: at the people who worked for Trump in the first administration. 124 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: There is just so much talent, and the talent has 125 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: a variety of different perspectives. It doesn't get enough attention. 126 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: Sulca Gabbert ran for president against Trump in twenty twenty 127 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: as a Democrat. Now she's in the cabinet. You had 128 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: RFK Junior, who's the most famous Kennedy, lifelong Democrat. Trump 129 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: brought him into the coalition as well. There's a lot 130 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: of you out there listening the MAHA moms who otherwise 131 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: wouldn't have voted Republican, but have found your way into 132 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: this as a reaction to what you saw happen related 133 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: to COVID, the tent, the coalition that Trump has built. 134 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: Even look, people out there were in a position where 135 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: some people said, hey, we should never do the attacks 136 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: on Iran. Others you and I said, hey, we think 137 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: this probably makes sense. If they have the nuclear assets, 138 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: we should try to take him out. A robust debate 139 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: over that. There's nothing wrong with it, And in fact, 140 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: I think it reflects upon the strength overall of the 141 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: coalition that this is where we are. And I just 142 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: think Caroline Levitt, I mean talking about great communicators, Pete 143 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: Hegseth earlier today setting the agenda from the Pentagon, and 144 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: now you have Caroline Levitt coming out a little bit 145 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: later in the afternoon, also setting the agenda. And it 146 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: wouldn't shock me, given the fact that he talks to 147 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: reporters all the time, if Trump comes out and he's 148 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 2: the third batter of an agenda setting coalition all day long, 149 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 2: and I just think it's a credit to the team 150 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: that he's put together what exactly is going on. So 151 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: that was Caroline Levitt. I was also going to play 152 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: a little bit of a different angle here. We mentioned 153 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: the New York City race, the mayor's race. Chris Cuomo, 154 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard this yet, Buck, Chris 155 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 2: Cuomo obviously younger brother of Andrew Cuomo. There's a lot 156 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: of talk about the uncertainty of how things were going 157 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: to go inside of the Republican Caucus surrounding Iran. Well, 158 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 2: Chris Cuomo now has come out and said the AOC 159 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: socialist wing of the Democrat Party just needs to leave 160 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,239 Speaker 2: the Democrats because they're not actually Democrats. 161 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: Listen to this, How do you. 162 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: Keep them from having the nuke? 163 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 6: Impeach Trump is the opposite of having a better idea. 164 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 6: You're killing your party. You're killing your party. And look, 165 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 6: I hope it works out for you. I hope you 166 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 6: guys splinter off and become you know, whatever you really 167 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 6: are because you're not a capitalist and you're not a Democrat, 168 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 6: and you know you can say, well, what do you know? 169 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 6: I was raised by a real one. I was raised 170 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 6: by a real one. Go ahead and criticize Mario Cuomo. 171 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 6: What's going to be your biggest insult? They spawned me 172 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 6: and Andrew, is that going to be the best you 173 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 6: have because you ain't compared to him? 174 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: WHOA wow? 175 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: I mean Chris Cuomo fired up his dad obviously. Mario Cuomo, Democrat, 176 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: Governor of New York. I do think that there is 177 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: an holy alliance which may may at some point explode 178 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 2: inside of the Democrat Party. Again, when you have a 179 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 2: big tent, it means that you may have people coming 180 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: from a variety of perspectives. I was just talking about 181 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: the big ten of the Republican Party, and everybody spent 182 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: a great deal of time talking about the interventionist versus 183 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: the anti interventionist wing of the Republican Party over how 184 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 2: to respond to Iran. How about what Chris Cuomo just 185 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: said there Buck, there are big parts of the Democrat 186 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: Party now which don't believe in capitalism. 187 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: That seems like kind of a big deal. 188 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: It used to be there were elements of the Democrat 189 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: Party that were very pro business. That's not really the 190 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: case anymore. 191 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: Well. 192 00:10:55,480 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 4: I think that unfortunately for Bro Cuomo, the Bernie wing 193 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: of the party and the far especially if you look 194 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 4: at the demographic data on age, they they're more powerful. 195 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 4: The people who the Cuomos of the world who cling 196 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 4: to a maybe a more Clintonian era of Democrat life 197 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 4: has passed them by. I mean that is no longer 198 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 4: the case you are now in. You saw this with Biden, right, 199 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 4: Biden was the facade, right, the dementia puppet used to 200 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 4: fool voters for the radically left wing stuff. I mean, 201 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 4: you look at the radically left wing spending, radically left 202 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 4: wing gender identity stuff, you know, racial divisial border policies, 203 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 4: not border policy. I mean Biden was a complete trojan horse, 204 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 4: which we knew all along. This was not a surprise 205 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 4: to any conservatives. I was saying that when this is 206 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 4: back in twenty twenty, you know a lot of people 207 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 4: on the right recognize this. But why would he be 208 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 4: a trojan horse? Will because they can't tell people who 209 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 4: they really are and win national elections. But that's who 210 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 4: actually runs the Democrat Party. It is the AOC Bernie 211 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 4: wing of the party that is ascendant, and that is 212 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 4: the central ethos now, and it's the other people who 213 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 4: are really just used to create a greater comfort for 214 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 4: the middle of the electorate that is based on the 215 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 4: false promise of moderation. They're not moderate. The Democrat Party 216 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 4: is not a moderate party. You must be a radical 217 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 4: on abortion, you must be radical on the borders, you 218 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 4: must be radical on spending, you must be willing to 219 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 4: tolerate radical anti Israeli, an anti Jewish sentiment. I mean, 220 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 4: there's a lot of stuff when you add it up, 221 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 4: and there's no shocks, no surprises here when you look 222 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 4: at it. Where this party is going. 223 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 2: I think it's an interesting question what actually unites the 224 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: Democrat Party right now. We've talked about the fact that 225 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: they don't have a true leader, But what motivating ideals 226 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: other than America's awful white men suck really actually coalesce 227 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: across the entire Democrat Party. I think that's one of 228 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 2: the challenges. I'm not sure what they actually even stand for. 229 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: We'll talk about this sum and continue to roll through 230 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 2: the Thursday edition of the program. 231 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: Just real quick. 232 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 4: You know, we talked about I was talking about socialism 233 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 4: and that naval line about how it's a suicide pack 234 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 4: for mediocrity. 235 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: That's what socialism is. 236 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 4: But really we talk about the race communism in this country. 237 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 4: It's just another way of using the and the resentment 238 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 4: and envy that that is present in any large population 239 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 4: of people in this country and in other countries too, 240 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 4: And a lot of it has been blamed on whiteness 241 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 4: as a concept. 242 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: Yes, now that that's. 243 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 4: Different than blaming it just because there are a lot 244 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 4: of white people that buy into that, right, but whiteness 245 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 4: as a concept has been used very much as part 246 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 4: of the divide and conqueror strategy of Democrats. 247 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 2: We'll come back, we'll talk about this more. 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Greg Fellow, Floridian, what's going on? 275 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: Man? 276 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 7: Hey, man, I have figured out CNN's message. We didn't 277 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 7: drop enough bombs. We need to drop more than you CNN. 278 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: There we go, Yes, thank you. It is funny Buck. 279 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: As we were talking about yesterday, the legacy media that 280 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: went very rapidly from we don't even know that Iran 281 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: has nuclear weapons. To everybody running with well, now we've 282 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: only set back their nuclear weapons program by a few months, 283 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: And you. 284 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 4: Said, which is the most well protected nuclear grade And 285 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, a military grade anti bunker buster facility made 286 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 4: in the history of the universe, and we couldn't do 287 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 4: anything about it. So you're right, we've gone from I 288 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 4: don't even think they've gotten nukes too. Oh man, we 289 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 4: couldn't put a scratch on their incredible nuke program. 290 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: That happened in like a week. 291 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: Whatever makes Trump look bad is what they're going to 292 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: focus on. And I think that's where hegseth was. That 293 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: was his overarching message. But I do think it's important 294 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: for people to recognize how dishonest those attacks are. If 295 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: you wanted to continue to say, hey, we should have 296 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: never dropped in any bombs on it ran they don't 297 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: have nuclear capability, that's at least a consistent argument to 298 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 2: go from. They don't have nukes at all. Too, Well, 299 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,239 Speaker 2: we only knocked them back by a few months is 300 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: completely different arguments in the space of virtually no time 301 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 2: at all. 302 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 4: Well, also, if we only knack them back a few 303 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 4: of knock them back a few months, which I don't believe, 304 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 4: but we can knock them back again. 305 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: That's the other part of this. They can't stop us. 306 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 4: Their military is weaker than it's been in decades, So 307 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 4: what are they going to do about it? 308 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: You know? 309 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 4: So now's the whole point is to get The point 310 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 4: is not to level all of Iran and hurt innocent people. 311 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 4: The point is to get the regime to stop this 312 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 4: nonsense and start acting like a normal country. That's it, 313 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 4: and Trump wants to get there. So yeah, I'm very uh. 314 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 4: I wouldn't say very optimistic, but I have some optimism. 315 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 4: The next big meaning of nations post NATO is the 316 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 4: Brick conference in Brazil just after July fourth. They're calling 317 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 4: that meeting the Rio reset for reasons that won't benefit 318 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 4: the value of our US dollar if they can get 319 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 4: what they want out of this meeting. They're trying to 320 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 4: move away from the US dollar as our global reserve currency. 321 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 4: This could be the greatest threat to the dollar's global 322 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 4: dominance ever. Brick includes Brazil, Russia, India, China, Iran and 323 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 4: other nations delaying the groundwork or replace the dollar, with 324 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 4: their central banks divesting from the US dollar and US 325 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 4: bonds in favor of gold. How can you protect your 326 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 4: IRA or four oh one K from the fallout of 327 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 4: this landmark shift? Diversify with gold from Birch Gold Group. 328 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 4: Historically gold has been a safe haven in times of uncertainty. 329 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 4: Birch Gold is who I buy my gold from. They'll 330 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 4: treat you well. Get a free invoke kit on a 331 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 4: tax sheltered gold IRA by texting my name Buck to 332 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 4: ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight. Text Buck to the 333 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 4: number ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight today. 334 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: I really want to say thanks. I've met a ton 335 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: of you up here in northern Michigan. 336 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: I know a lot of you. 337 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,959 Speaker 2: Say please don't say positive things about it up here 338 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: because it's getting so crowded, but it is. 339 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 3: Amazing in the summer up here. We've been all over 340 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:12,479 Speaker 3: the place. 341 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 2: Traverse City News Talk five eighty has been taking care 342 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: of us every single day here this week, and I 343 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 2: appreciate all of you. 344 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 3: Buck's been down in Miami. 345 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 2: I'm sitting here in a jacket because it's only like 346 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: sixty five degrees today. But new affiliate that we have 347 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: up here in Traverse City, Michigan WTCM five eighty they've 348 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: had me all week. 349 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: They have been fantastic. 350 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: A couple of cuts that I want to play for 351 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 2: you because I think they kind of get at the 352 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 2: failures that CNN in general has been having. First of all, 353 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 2: every evening they just have sort of the Star Wars 354 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 2: universe of crazy left wing peddler arguments. And Jamal Bowman, 355 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 2: who lost his Democrat primary and no longer has a job, 356 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: was on He is the guy who pulled the fire 357 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 2: alarm and was defeated in the New York City area 358 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: district which he was representing. Here he is saying, and 359 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,239 Speaker 2: I want to get Buck's reaction to this, that he 360 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: was confronted on the street and heckled and this is 361 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 2: what he has to deal with on a regular basis. 362 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: Listen, I don't want to fight. I just want to chill. 363 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: I just want to know. I was in. I was 364 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: walking down the street the other day. Some white dude ballhead. 365 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: He looked me, called me a piece of in my face, 366 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: said I'm gonna get what's coming to me? Why not 367 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: deal with that dog in in Yunker's New York. Can 368 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: tell you I'm not making that up. Do you buy it? Buck? 369 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 3: Do you think Jamal Bowman? I think he's. 370 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 4: Making it up. Yes, I think he's making it up. 371 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 4: Jabal Bowman. I've seen him bench three plates on each side. 372 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: He's a big dude. 373 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I mean so, I just I don't buy 374 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 4: this story. And it's one of these you can never 375 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 4: prove or disprove, but don't. I don't believe that somebody 376 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 4: went up to him in Yonkers, and you know, I'm 377 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 4: just glad he didn't say that. You know, the guy 378 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 4: yelled like this is a maga country or whatever, like 379 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 4: this just sounds fake to me. 380 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: I just don't buy very often big dudes being confronted 381 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 2: by probably small and if the guy who confronted Jamal 382 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 2: Bowman would have to be a heavyweight boxer or an 383 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: NFL defensive lineman to be appreciably bigger than Jamal Momen. 384 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: First of all, I don't think most people know who 385 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: Jamal Bowman is, and I don't mean that to be 386 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 2: to insult him. I just I don't think most people 387 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,239 Speaker 2: in New York City have any idea who he is. 388 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 2: So the percentage of people that would hate him enough 389 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 2: to taunt him face to face and know him is 390 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 2: what like one percent of New York. 391 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 4: Also, the way he tells the story. Did he do 392 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 4: something like rude to somebody and then they responded cause 393 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 4: they're supposed to think. I guess that someone came after 394 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 4: him because he's Jamal Bowman. 395 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. 396 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 4: Maybe he was, Maybe he was having a loud speakerphone 397 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 4: conversation or doing something that sets people off that made 398 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 4: you know. I gave somebody on my plane ride over 399 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 4: to France, Clay an extra set of headphones. Oh no, 400 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 4: because I turned around, I said, I have a spare. 401 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 4: I have a spare. He was why. 402 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: It was a guy. 403 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say, it's a white guy in his fifties, okay, 404 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 4: very well dressed like very you know, uh a hoity 405 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 4: toity and like Louis Vuitton baggage and uh and he 406 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 4: uh thought he could watch his iPad like he's a 407 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 4: little kid with no headphones on. So I actually had 408 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 4: a spare, had the wired set in my bag and 409 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 4: I said, here you go, here's a wired set of headphones. 410 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 4: And he kind of stared me down for a second 411 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 4: and realized, like, so, now, what's your excuse? 412 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: So he put him on. Now I have to watch 413 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: them though, that is really really so he gave him 414 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: back to you at the end of the day. He 415 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: did trip. 416 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 4: He rolled them up, rolled them up nicely, gave them 417 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 4: back to me at the end. 418 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: So now this is my new move. 419 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 4: I'm going to carry an extra set of headphones in 420 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 4: public places and offer headphones to people who are on 421 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 4: the side of barbarism and think that we want to 422 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 4: hear your cell phone conversation or your iPad noises or 423 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 4: whatever it is. 424 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: This is funny because on my flight up to Michigan 425 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: with the Travis Boys, my oldest son wanted to watch 426 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: Trump's address about the bombing of Iran, did not have 427 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 2: wireless phones or his or a plug to put in, 428 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: and my wife, who was in the row in front 429 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: of us, turned around and complained about our oldest son 430 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 2: making too much noise while he was watching Trump's address. 431 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 2: So she would have certainly appreciated if you had had 432 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: an extra pair of headphones for my son. 433 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: All right. 434 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 2: That is Jamal Bowman claiming that he's This also always 435 00:23:54,520 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: reminds me what there are people who behave awful towards 436 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 2: famous people. But the idea that the jsse Smallett this 437 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: is Maga country. The number of Trump voters who knew 438 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: who Jusse Smallett is or was in that era was zero. 439 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: I mean there was nobody watching what was the show Empire. 440 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: The number of Trump voters watching Empire frequently enough that 441 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 2: they knew who Jusse Smallett was that they would feel 442 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 2: compelled to not only know who he was, but know 443 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 2: his politics and taunt him in Chicago at two am. 444 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: So one of the craziest stories on. 445 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 4: A freezing cold winter night to lie in wait with 446 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 4: the moose, yes, and some kind of thing to spray 447 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 4: on him because you're that angry about Jesse Smollette, who 448 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 4: nobody who voted for Trump had any idea whom he was. 449 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that would be. That was a strange one. 450 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 2: And you would think that the media might have actually 451 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 2: questioned some of that, particularly because our good friend Jake 452 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 2: Tapper wants all of you to know what the role 453 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 2: of the media really is. So you got to see 454 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 2: an in jabal bowman saying he's getting taunted because of 455 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 2: who he is. Here is Jake Tapper lecturing everyone about 456 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 2: what it is the job of the media really is. 457 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: Asking questions. 458 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 4: Is literally our job demanding facts and answers instead of 459 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 4: just taking a president's word for it. No, that's actually 460 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 4: that is that's actually not their job though is This 461 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 4: is where I have a really I have a big 462 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 4: bone to pick with all these people who call themselves journalists. 463 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 4: We have seen what their job is, depending on where 464 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 4: they work. The job of a CNN employee is to 465 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 4: tell Democrats in the audience what they want to hear 466 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 4: and to hurt Republicans in terms of public perception in 467 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 4: every way that they can. 468 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: That is the job. 469 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 4: That's actually the job. If you don't do that, you 470 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 4: will be fired. So that's what the job is. This, 471 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 4: it's to ask questions and get the truth to the people. 472 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 4: That is a lie that is meant to cover for 473 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 4: the actual job, which is to tell democrats what they 474 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 4: want to hear and attack Republicans in every way you can. 475 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: What do you think. 476 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: Let's pretend that suddenly you or I were in charge 477 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 2: of CNN and they said, hey, we've been listening to 478 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 2: your radio show. 479 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 3: It's phenomenal. 480 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 4: They should do it as smart. We would shake that 481 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 4: place up. It'd be amazing. Okay, so is it salvageable? Like, 482 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 4: let me just give you a hypothetical. 483 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 2: If Meghan Kelly, who obviously had a very successful show 484 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 2: on Fox News. 485 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: Look at You, Look at You. I always given Mammy. 486 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 7: Look. 487 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: Meghan's great. 488 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 4: She was always great to me in my career and 489 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 4: everything else. But she's always number one on your list 490 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 4: for who's. 491 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 2: Gonna I think she's the smartest, most talented person in 492 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 2: digital space that I don't work with. 493 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? 494 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 7: So? 495 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 8: Wow? 496 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: Who would you put top of this and send this to? Meghan? 497 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 8: Well? 498 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: I think she is. 499 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 3: I think she asked really smart questions. 500 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 2: I think she gets to the heart of issues if 501 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: I were running so But the question here is, let's 502 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 2: pretend that I am running CNN and I say, hey, 503 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 2: I want to change we kind of get away from 504 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 2: the Jake Tapper world. We can't have this stenographer for 505 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 2: the Democrat powerful anymore. We're gonna shake things up. Could 506 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: Megan Kelly, who I think I'm just telling you, I 507 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 2: think is the most talented independent voice in media today? 508 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: All right? All right? 509 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 4: I mean I think Megan's great too, But yes, okay, 510 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 4: could she alone? 511 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: Would she be able to produce an audience or CNN's 512 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: brand so broken that even if you put somebody who's 513 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: good at television and good at doing a show, people 514 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 2: wouldn't respond to it because their brand is broken. 515 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: In other words, how salvageable do you think it is? Right? 516 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 4: You would have to accept that during the change process 517 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 4: from being a Democrat propaganda outlet, you would lose a 518 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 4: lot of audience and then have to rebuild audience. Yeah, 519 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 4: the audience of CNN right now does not want want 520 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 4: anything to be told to them that is outside of 521 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 4: what the DNC would approve and send themselves. They don't 522 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 4: want to hear it, and so you would have to 523 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 4: accept that. There'd be that painful ratings transition period and 524 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 4: then I think you could build into something else. But 525 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 4: that's you know, that's a risk that executives at these 526 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 4: places are very rarely willing to take any risks. I 527 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 4: think CNN's brand is in terminal decline. I think CNN 528 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 4: will exist in kind of the way that ABC News 529 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 4: in some of these places. Yeah, sure they'll have some audience, 530 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 4: but a shadow of their former Now. 531 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: ABC News still has a. 532 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 4: Pretty big TV audience, but it's a shadow of what 533 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 4: it was twenty or thirty or thirty years ago. So 534 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 4: I think that that's where I don't think CNN is 535 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 4: going to be able to turn this thing around. 536 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 2: I know, to look at it purely from a business 537 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: market perspective. If Fox News has around seventy percent of 538 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: the news audience on cable, and it does, and it's 539 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: got an incredibly loyal brand, what is CNN's angle Because 540 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: that leaves thirty percent MSNBC, whatever you think about them, 541 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: has the left wing angle covered. 542 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 3: Why would you not go after some of the seventy 543 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 3: This is why. 544 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 4: And I was there and observe this when it happens. 545 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 4: CNN under Jeff Zucker's leadership, if you can call it, 546 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 4: that ignominiously ended in scandal, CNN decided to become MSNBC 547 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 4: with different letters, anti trump Ism, completely crazy, treat all 548 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 4: the actual conservatives who would have come on your air 549 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 4: like trash. You know, this is what they did. And 550 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 4: so that space that they were at least theoretically occupying 551 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 4: of somewhere in between Fox and MSNBC, that just became untenable. 552 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 4: They were just another version There were MSNBC with less honesty, 553 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 4: and that is not a tenable brand that that's not 554 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 4: a place where you can really be. 555 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: And so that's what ended up happening to them. But 556 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm I'm happy. I mean, if you had told me, 557 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: if you. 558 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 4: Had told me when the Tea Party was getting their 559 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 4: thing going, don't worry one day. Not only will Trump 560 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 4: call CNN fake news to their faces, but he'll essentially 561 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 4: destroy the death star of propaganda that is CNN. 562 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: I would have said that sounds amazing, and we're pretty 563 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: much there, oh totally. 564 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 2: And again they only have about ten or fifteen percent 565 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: of the overall news marketplace. And you know what it 566 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: really comes through. It used to be when big news happened, 567 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 2: people would turn on CNN because they trusted them to 568 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 2: get big news. I still think about CNN back in 569 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 2: the day a Bernard Shaw and the scud stud whatever 570 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 2: that guy's name was, during the First Gulf War, when 571 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 2: that really made CNN's brand as somebody that could you 572 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: could trust. Now they don't even get turned on when 573 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: big news happens. Fox News I think had four point 574 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 2: nine million viewers when they Iran attacks happened. Nobody else 575 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 2: was even close to them. And it just feels like 576 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 2: CNN is in a terminal decline. And I wonder at 577 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 2: this point if there's anything they could do to change 578 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 2: the trajectory that they're on and I don't know that 579 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 2: they could, but I would be trying to undertake radical change. 580 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 2: I think if I were in charge of CNN. 581 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it would have to be. 582 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 4: You know, when you're doing a you're doing some housing 583 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 4: construction stuff. But when you're doing a renovation and people 584 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 4: say I'm going to tear it down to the studs, 585 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 4: CNN really needs to be torn down to the studs. 586 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 4: You need to get all the way, you know, get 587 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 4: all the way into the dry wall and really pull 588 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 4: things apart in there to rebuild. 589 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: You can't just do a little coat of paint and 590 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: call it a day. 591 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 2: That's totally what's, by the way, happening with the intelligence 592 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: agencies right now too. 593 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: We's seeing how that's going. 594 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 4: We are if you consider yourself pro life, and I 595 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 4: certainly do, here's something to pay to. 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We'll 621 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 4: be back tomorrow, Clay and I both and then we 622 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 4: went for a few days. Next week I camp play 623 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 4: Fourth of July Independence Day. Some people get very you know, 624 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 4: they get persnickety about this. They don't like when you 625 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 4: call it fourth of July. Whereas my grandmother one side 626 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 4: at fourth of July, so h used to say it 627 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 4: down in Charlottesville. So you know, this is a time 628 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 4: of independent celebration for America. 629 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: So there you go. Buck. 630 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 2: One of our podcast listeners has got an issue that 631 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 2: he wants to raise with you. As we finished the 632 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 2: Thursday edition of the program, this is Steve, who wants 633 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 2: to talk with you about your big flamingo discussion. 634 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, oh, let's hear it. Let's hear it. 635 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 8: But check your history on the flamingos. I'm seventy years old, 636 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 8: and as a kid before long before Miamivice came out, 637 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 8: I grew up thinking flamingos were from Florida. Chat GPT 638 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 8: says that they were native, but then when it almost extinct, 639 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 8: So check it out. 640 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 4: All right, all right, buddy, all right, I don't know 641 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 4: the answer here. 642 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: I'm stepping out of this phray. This seems pretty intense. 643 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 9: Well, you know, when you make you know, the zoological 644 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 9: specificity necessary. 645 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 4: On this on this show is quite a thing, all right. 646 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 4: Let me let me just say this, uh, this is 647 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 4: what the truth is. As I understand, there were flamingos here. 648 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 4: They went extinct though for about two hundred years. Okay, 649 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 4: so they were gone in the eighteen hundreds and nineteen hundreds, 650 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 4: and then they wouldn't weren't able to find any and 651 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 4: then the twentieth century they started to try to reintroduce 652 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 4: some native colonies. 653 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: And now in Florida they're about one hundred of them. 654 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 4: But they are doing better than the dodo bird here, 655 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 4: but not much better, like they weren't around. And like 656 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 4: I said, it was the it was a flock of 657 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 4: imported African pink flamingos in Miami Vice that were not 658 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 4: indigenous to Florida that got everybody thinking about in the 659 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 4: eighties of Florida and flamingos. 660 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: Again, they didn't have They. 661 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 4: Didn't have flamingos in Florida for over one hundred years. 662 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: So and yet every everywhere you go there's flamingo. 663 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 9: This in flamingo that it's kind of weird, right, like 664 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 9: walking around Newfoundland being like, hey, the dodo birds, not 665 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 9: as many dodo birds. 666 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. 667 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 2: All over northern Michigan, they've got Bear in every business, 668 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 2: streets named after Bear. I don't think there's any bear 669 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,919 Speaker 2: left up here. By the way, Jody Jody says, love 670 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 2: the show they used to have Flaminia. You got lit 671 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,439 Speaker 2: up by flamingo people out there, also saying the same thing. 672 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 2: They were decimated for the feathers used in women's hats 673 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 2: back in the day. That's why they killed all the 674 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 2: flamingos off in Florida. So I don't know, sir, you 675 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 2: better step check yourself before you step into flamingo wars. 676 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: Well, I'm just they were gone though. 677 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 4: That's my point is that there were no flamingos, and 678 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 4: everyone's talking about flamingos all the time. The only flamingos 679 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 4: you're gonna see in Florida are the lawn ornaance out there. 680 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you guys the truth. You can come 681 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: at me with whatever you like. We'll be back tomorrow. 682 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: Who knows what colorful battles did