1 00:00:11,657 --> 00:00:14,937 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,937 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:17,977 --> 00:00:21,497 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody, welcome to another 4 00:00:21,537 --> 00:00:27,497 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show episode Special one because we have with 5 00:00:27,617 --> 00:00:34,697 Speaker 1: us John Cardillo, formerly of the NYPD conservative commentator, Man 6 00:00:34,737 --> 00:00:39,097 Speaker 1: about Town and if you read the Daily Beast unlicensed 7 00:00:39,137 --> 00:00:44,977 Speaker 1: International arms Dealer, which is still the coolest thing that 8 00:00:45,057 --> 00:00:47,377 Speaker 1: any of my friends have been called in print up 9 00:00:47,417 --> 00:00:50,897 Speaker 1: to this point. John, I just want to say it's 10 00:00:50,977 --> 00:00:54,257 Speaker 1: it's an honor, and not just because apparently you're going 11 00:00:54,297 --> 00:00:56,857 Speaker 1: to be playing the Nicholas Cage role and Lord of 12 00:00:56,857 --> 00:01:00,977 Speaker 1: War two. Yeah, I thought it was. I wish it 13 00:01:01,057 --> 00:01:04,217 Speaker 1: was true. It's such a cool description. Unfortunately it's your date. 14 00:01:04,617 --> 00:01:06,817 Speaker 1: You know, it's bogus. I'm not as cool as that. 15 00:01:06,857 --> 00:01:08,737 Speaker 1: I wish I was. Yeah, you just got sometimes you 16 00:01:08,777 --> 00:01:11,577 Speaker 1: just got lean in your role, like, oh, apparently you know, 17 00:01:12,857 --> 00:01:16,537 Speaker 1: can I can I get you a whole box of 18 00:01:17,097 --> 00:01:20,537 Speaker 1: T ninety tanks? Maybe you know, can either confirm nor 19 00:01:20,617 --> 00:01:23,217 Speaker 1: deny you know how you know how we do it? John? Yeah, 20 00:01:23,697 --> 00:01:26,777 Speaker 1: I mean you can't say I can't. I don't know. 21 00:01:27,817 --> 00:01:31,977 Speaker 1: So I want to start with this one. Um, you're 22 00:01:31,977 --> 00:01:36,377 Speaker 1: a guy, you voted for Trump twice. You were, if anything, 23 00:01:36,577 --> 00:01:42,457 Speaker 1: somebody who uh in your in your very John Cardillo way, 24 00:01:43,417 --> 00:01:48,297 Speaker 1: we're on Twitter throwing punches in favor of Trump with 25 00:01:48,337 --> 00:01:51,137 Speaker 1: all of your might for all four years of his presidency, 26 00:01:51,217 --> 00:01:55,977 Speaker 1: just in case. And John's Twitter is spicy, not necessarily uh, 27 00:01:56,337 --> 00:01:59,337 Speaker 1: not necessarily for the for the workplace, but his his 28 00:01:59,417 --> 00:02:03,177 Speaker 1: Twitter family friendly, not necessarily family friendly Twitter. But but 29 00:02:03,337 --> 00:02:07,057 Speaker 1: he he calls it like he sees it. Um, Trump 30 00:02:07,097 --> 00:02:10,457 Speaker 1: has had a rough few months. He's running, He's had 31 00:02:10,497 --> 00:02:13,017 Speaker 1: a tough few months, I think in the messaging as 32 00:02:13,057 --> 00:02:16,057 Speaker 1: I speak to you, he's just done this trip out 33 00:02:16,057 --> 00:02:21,217 Speaker 1: to East Palastine. Yeah, is he getting more on track? 34 00:02:21,537 --> 00:02:26,937 Speaker 1: What is your assessment as a as a true blue 35 00:02:26,977 --> 00:02:30,457 Speaker 1: Trump supporter of the past and somebody who wants the 36 00:02:30,497 --> 00:02:35,137 Speaker 1: best for Trump and the GOP. Now, how's he doing well? Look, 37 00:02:35,177 --> 00:02:37,817 Speaker 1: you know, Buck, I was a vehement all these our vehement, 38 00:02:38,177 --> 00:02:41,017 Speaker 1: a vehement Trump supporter. I mean, like you say, you know, 39 00:02:41,617 --> 00:02:44,057 Speaker 1: trading punches. It happened to you, happen to many of us. 40 00:02:44,057 --> 00:02:47,457 Speaker 1: We lost friends over this, We lost business associates in 41 00:02:47,457 --> 00:02:50,417 Speaker 1: the media who are a bit more moderate maybe moving 42 00:02:50,457 --> 00:02:53,217 Speaker 1: center left even center right people at the time, where 43 00:02:53,217 --> 00:02:55,697 Speaker 1: a lot of them were never Trumpers, right if you 44 00:02:55,737 --> 00:02:59,417 Speaker 1: remember that they had their conservative purity tests and we 45 00:02:59,577 --> 00:03:03,097 Speaker 1: lost relationships, some permanently, some for many years. And unfortunately 46 00:03:03,137 --> 00:03:07,977 Speaker 1: those are healed. But what wound up? And I don't 47 00:03:07,977 --> 00:03:10,057 Speaker 1: want to see turning me off to returning me against Trump, 48 00:03:10,097 --> 00:03:12,457 Speaker 1: because I think he did incredible things for the United States. Look, 49 00:03:12,537 --> 00:03:14,257 Speaker 1: let me say that the good first. I think Donald 50 00:03:14,257 --> 00:03:16,017 Speaker 1: Trump is one of the most patriotic people ever to 51 00:03:16,057 --> 00:03:18,377 Speaker 1: hold the office. I think he truly loves America. He 52 00:03:18,417 --> 00:03:21,497 Speaker 1: gained great success in America, and the trip to East 53 00:03:21,497 --> 00:03:24,417 Speaker 1: Palestine was I thought exceptional. I thought it's exactly what 54 00:03:24,457 --> 00:03:27,857 Speaker 1: those people needed. I mean, could you imagine your water 55 00:03:27,937 --> 00:03:32,177 Speaker 1: supply having iridescent looked like oil slicks on top of it. 56 00:03:32,617 --> 00:03:34,737 Speaker 1: You don't know if your children are gonna come down 57 00:03:34,737 --> 00:03:38,457 Speaker 1: with terminal diseases, and the sitting president of the United States, 58 00:03:38,537 --> 00:03:42,257 Speaker 1: the incapacitated vegetable in chief, is over there in Ukraine. 59 00:03:42,617 --> 00:03:46,057 Speaker 1: Worried more about Ukraine than your kids in Ohio. So 60 00:03:46,177 --> 00:03:49,497 Speaker 1: Trump's trip I thought was a win. It was incredibly heartfelt. 61 00:03:49,897 --> 00:03:52,137 Speaker 1: He know a few people that have ever sat in 62 00:03:52,137 --> 00:03:55,657 Speaker 1: the Oval office, have emotionally connected with the American people 63 00:03:55,697 --> 00:03:57,577 Speaker 1: like Donald Trump. I mean, I'll get flamed by the 64 00:03:57,617 --> 00:03:59,137 Speaker 1: right for saying this, but I think to his base, 65 00:03:59,217 --> 00:04:02,417 Speaker 1: Barack Obama did, Ronald Reagan did in many respects, but 66 00:04:02,497 --> 00:04:06,417 Speaker 1: Trump really had an emotional connection. That's all the good. 67 00:04:06,937 --> 00:04:09,537 Speaker 1: I don't want to see him as president again. I 68 00:04:09,577 --> 00:04:11,617 Speaker 1: don't to see him as the nominee because I don't 69 00:04:11,617 --> 00:04:14,497 Speaker 1: think he can win. I don't believe mathematically he has 70 00:04:14,537 --> 00:04:16,937 Speaker 1: a path to two seventy. I travel the country quite 71 00:04:16,937 --> 00:04:20,217 Speaker 1: a bit. I think he's lost independence, non party affiliated 72 00:04:20,257 --> 00:04:23,897 Speaker 1: suburban women. I wish he would just stay on the 73 00:04:23,897 --> 00:04:27,297 Speaker 1: outside as a kingmaker. My number one that, my number 74 00:04:27,337 --> 00:04:30,737 Speaker 1: one reason for moving off Trump is that as good 75 00:04:30,737 --> 00:04:34,257 Speaker 1: as he was on so many things, his personnel acumen 76 00:04:34,657 --> 00:04:37,737 Speaker 1: was abysmal. And as far as I'm concerned, whether it 77 00:04:37,817 --> 00:04:42,417 Speaker 1: be business or politics, buck personnel, his policy and his 78 00:04:42,537 --> 00:04:47,817 Speaker 1: personnel decisions hiring Christopher Ray, abdicating his presidency afterwardly only 79 00:04:47,817 --> 00:04:51,017 Speaker 1: half a term. To Fauci, that's why he's a one 80 00:04:51,137 --> 00:04:52,857 Speaker 1: term was a one term president, or is a one 81 00:04:52,977 --> 00:04:57,337 Speaker 1: term president? Christopher Ray? Sure, but I mean I'm a 82 00:04:57,417 --> 00:05:03,457 Speaker 1: rosa Scaramucci. You know, Michael right, I'm pulled in two 83 00:05:03,457 --> 00:05:05,737 Speaker 1: of the big names out. But exactly you and I 84 00:05:05,737 --> 00:05:08,617 Speaker 1: could do an entire one hour on those names and 85 00:05:08,657 --> 00:05:11,857 Speaker 1: what the problems were one exactly. I have never seen 86 00:05:12,697 --> 00:05:18,937 Speaker 1: a white house before where so many people begged their 87 00:05:19,017 --> 00:05:23,177 Speaker 1: way in and then cashed in all after they left 88 00:05:23,257 --> 00:05:25,977 Speaker 1: or on their way out, by turning on the person 89 00:05:26,377 --> 00:05:30,097 Speaker 1: who gave them that big break, that role that quite honestly, 90 00:05:30,097 --> 00:05:33,657 Speaker 1: in many cases those people but through no objective measure, 91 00:05:33,657 --> 00:05:37,497 Speaker 1: could be considered to have earned through professional ability or 92 00:05:37,497 --> 00:05:40,697 Speaker 1: anything else. It was. It was amazing as a as 93 00:05:40,697 --> 00:05:44,817 Speaker 1: the circumstance played out so many times through the Trump Admunstian. 94 00:05:44,897 --> 00:05:46,537 Speaker 1: You notice he doesn't. I haven't heard him say I 95 00:05:46,617 --> 00:05:49,217 Speaker 1: hired the best people anymore. That that's not something I've heard. 96 00:05:50,017 --> 00:05:51,697 Speaker 1: It's not something I've heard in a long time, because 97 00:05:51,697 --> 00:05:55,057 Speaker 1: I think that that's that's become a bit of a weakness. 98 00:05:55,057 --> 00:05:58,337 Speaker 1: And even among his base right now, we're talking within 99 00:05:58,377 --> 00:06:00,057 Speaker 1: the family, which I think is you know, forget about 100 00:06:00,137 --> 00:06:02,057 Speaker 1: the laft and everything else. I just mean even people 101 00:06:02,097 --> 00:06:04,057 Speaker 1: who are on the right, who I mean, I was 102 00:06:04,057 --> 00:06:08,377 Speaker 1: a two time Trump voter. I bore the hatred of 103 00:06:08,977 --> 00:06:11,257 Speaker 1: CNN when I was still contribute there for being a 104 00:06:11,297 --> 00:06:14,777 Speaker 1: Trump supporter there, basically got benched after a while because 105 00:06:14,817 --> 00:06:16,457 Speaker 1: I was just like, yeah, of course Trump, what's wrong 106 00:06:16,497 --> 00:06:21,737 Speaker 1: with you lunatics? But anyway, how is the campaign being run? Like? 107 00:06:21,737 --> 00:06:25,377 Speaker 1: Who's actually you actually understand it and know the people 108 00:06:25,617 --> 00:06:28,857 Speaker 1: who are moving the machinery? Who is who is the 109 00:06:28,857 --> 00:06:30,937 Speaker 1: Trump campaign other than Trump himself as far as we 110 00:06:30,977 --> 00:06:34,137 Speaker 1: know right now, Well, Susie Wiles, who is this campaign 111 00:06:34,137 --> 00:06:36,297 Speaker 1: manager last time around. She's his current chief of staff. 112 00:06:36,337 --> 00:06:39,697 Speaker 1: She's still very much in a position of major influence, 113 00:06:39,737 --> 00:06:43,457 Speaker 1: if not the most influential outside of family members. Billie 114 00:06:43,537 --> 00:06:47,017 Speaker 1: bars Epstein is on the campaign as well. Those are 115 00:06:47,017 --> 00:06:49,777 Speaker 1: the big names that are really calling the shots. I 116 00:06:49,897 --> 00:06:53,537 Speaker 1: think news item that Jason Miller, who was one of 117 00:06:53,537 --> 00:06:56,137 Speaker 1: his commons people in sixteen, he's back over there. So 118 00:06:56,177 --> 00:06:59,217 Speaker 1: there's a lot of replication from the sixteen campaign in 119 00:06:59,257 --> 00:07:02,377 Speaker 1: the twenty campaign. But I think one of his biggest 120 00:07:02,457 --> 00:07:07,097 Speaker 1: problems is his messaging. He's still using the twenty sixteen playbook, 121 00:07:07,577 --> 00:07:10,817 Speaker 1: and what worked in twenty sixteen is not going to 122 00:07:10,857 --> 00:07:13,057 Speaker 1: work in twenty twenty four. It's not going to work 123 00:07:13,377 --> 00:07:16,417 Speaker 1: in a post lockdown post COVID society because Trump is 124 00:07:16,417 --> 00:07:19,897 Speaker 1: out there still saying the vaccines were a great idea. 125 00:07:20,537 --> 00:07:22,977 Speaker 1: I saved one hundred million lives. Now, where were you 126 00:07:22,977 --> 00:07:26,137 Speaker 1: standing on the vaccines? I've been very vocally anti that vaccine. 127 00:07:26,857 --> 00:07:31,897 Speaker 1: His base is viciously anti that vaccine, and he seems 128 00:07:31,897 --> 00:07:34,577 Speaker 1: to be a bit tone deaf to them. And so 129 00:07:34,697 --> 00:07:37,457 Speaker 1: I think from a campaign standpoint, it seems to be 130 00:07:37,577 --> 00:07:39,857 Speaker 1: in a bit of disarray. You know, one of the 131 00:07:39,857 --> 00:07:43,657 Speaker 1: other reasons is really no fault to Trump's but and 132 00:07:43,737 --> 00:07:44,857 Speaker 1: you know this, we talked to a lot of the 133 00:07:44,897 --> 00:07:49,417 Speaker 1: same people offline. The DOJ made life such hell for 134 00:07:49,537 --> 00:07:53,417 Speaker 1: everyone around Trump that it's very difficult for him to 135 00:07:53,497 --> 00:07:55,497 Speaker 1: higher top tier people. It's even difficult for him at 136 00:07:55,537 --> 00:07:58,017 Speaker 1: this point point to hire top tier attorneys because the 137 00:07:58,057 --> 00:08:00,617 Speaker 1: big white chow law firms won't bring them in. They 138 00:08:00,617 --> 00:08:03,937 Speaker 1: won't offer them those very lucrative partnerships if they have 139 00:08:04,017 --> 00:08:07,137 Speaker 1: Trump on their resume. The same for the consulting firms 140 00:08:07,137 --> 00:08:09,657 Speaker 1: and the lobbying firms. So he's having a real hard 141 00:08:09,697 --> 00:08:12,417 Speaker 1: time I think getting that top talent for the infrastructure 142 00:08:12,457 --> 00:08:15,777 Speaker 1: you need to run the successful campaign he ran in sixteen, 143 00:08:16,657 --> 00:08:18,977 Speaker 1: but most importantly, if I have to point to one 144 00:08:19,017 --> 00:08:22,457 Speaker 1: person that I think was his most recent horrible personnel 145 00:08:22,537 --> 00:08:25,377 Speaker 1: decision and will lead to not just problems for him 146 00:08:25,417 --> 00:08:28,737 Speaker 1: and for the Republican Party, it's ron Romney McDaniel, the 147 00:08:28,777 --> 00:08:32,417 Speaker 1: g NC, the RNC chairwoman. This is a woman that 148 00:08:32,457 --> 00:08:35,777 Speaker 1: Trump found him sixteen. He wholeheartedly endorsed her in twenty 149 00:08:35,777 --> 00:08:38,617 Speaker 1: and unfortunately this time around, when it was between her 150 00:08:38,657 --> 00:08:42,017 Speaker 1: and his own lawyer, harn Meet Dylan was far more conservative, 151 00:08:42,017 --> 00:08:45,617 Speaker 1: far more hardcore. Trump pet Susie Wiles and others out there, 152 00:08:45,777 --> 00:08:48,217 Speaker 1: and it became very public whipping votes to keep Rona 153 00:08:48,297 --> 00:08:51,697 Speaker 1: McDaniel in power, the same woman that did nothing. It 154 00:08:51,857 --> 00:08:56,377 Speaker 1: did nothing to Dans vote integrity. Give me the why 155 00:08:56,457 --> 00:09:00,937 Speaker 1: Trump support Rona McDaniel, because what I'm told from people 156 00:09:00,977 --> 00:09:03,817 Speaker 1: close to him is she gave him whatever he wanted. 157 00:09:04,057 --> 00:09:06,057 Speaker 1: She didn't use the money she raised to go fight 158 00:09:06,377 --> 00:09:09,057 Speaker 1: for election integrity, or to beat back the attacks, or 159 00:09:09,097 --> 00:09:12,057 Speaker 1: to hire lawyers to help him with DJ But she 160 00:09:12,897 --> 00:09:15,817 Speaker 1: kissed his ass quite frankly, a crude way to say it, 161 00:09:15,857 --> 00:09:17,617 Speaker 1: but it's true. She tells him he's the greatest things, 162 00:09:17,657 --> 00:09:21,377 Speaker 1: and sliced bread he loves that, and those little things 163 00:09:21,417 --> 00:09:23,657 Speaker 1: he needs, the endorsement of this candidate or money to 164 00:09:23,697 --> 00:09:25,617 Speaker 1: this candidate. She would do for him when he asked, 165 00:09:25,617 --> 00:09:28,057 Speaker 1: So he wasn't asking for the big stuff. He didn't 166 00:09:28,057 --> 00:09:30,137 Speaker 1: know to tell her put lawyers on the field six 167 00:09:30,137 --> 00:09:32,737 Speaker 1: months before election day to get in front of a 168 00:09:32,817 --> 00:09:36,217 Speaker 1: voter integrity issues or let's ballot harvest where legal? Rona, 169 00:09:36,257 --> 00:09:38,857 Speaker 1: why aren't you spending the money for armies of volunteers 170 00:09:38,857 --> 00:09:41,137 Speaker 1: to ballot harvest? So the stuff he was asking for 171 00:09:41,417 --> 00:09:43,217 Speaker 1: she was able to give him. Right, she did it 172 00:09:43,257 --> 00:09:44,657 Speaker 1: for him, and then she would go give him all 173 00:09:44,657 --> 00:09:47,417 Speaker 1: the accolades he loves, and he wanted her back. He 174 00:09:47,777 --> 00:09:50,017 Speaker 1: was comfortable with her. 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I wanted to start with with Kevin 206 00:11:27,057 --> 00:11:31,017 Speaker 1: McCarthy because there was obviously that simultaneous fight over R 207 00:11:31,097 --> 00:11:33,737 Speaker 1: and C chair and speaker's chair, right, those were two 208 00:11:33,777 --> 00:11:37,897 Speaker 1: things that you know, got got the conservative bass's attention 209 00:11:37,977 --> 00:11:41,577 Speaker 1: for a few weeks. Kevin McCarthy looks like he's come 210 00:11:41,577 --> 00:11:46,057 Speaker 1: out swinging and listen to the folks. To me, is 211 00:11:46,097 --> 00:11:48,377 Speaker 1: that is that your sense of it? Is that where 212 00:11:48,417 --> 00:11:51,417 Speaker 1: he's going? Yeah, it really is. You know a few 213 00:11:51,457 --> 00:11:55,337 Speaker 1: people were more brutal to Kevin than I was. And 214 00:11:55,657 --> 00:11:58,257 Speaker 1: I had some people getting close to him reach out 215 00:11:58,257 --> 00:11:59,697 Speaker 1: to me and say, hey, you're you're kind of off 216 00:11:59,697 --> 00:12:01,097 Speaker 1: based on this, and I said, well, I'm not. I 217 00:12:01,137 --> 00:12:04,497 Speaker 1: look at actions not words. And they said, he's getting it, 218 00:12:04,657 --> 00:12:06,937 Speaker 1: he's listening, he's getting it, and he's listening to the 219 00:12:07,057 --> 00:12:11,977 Speaker 1: right advisors. He actually understood the personnel is policy problems. 220 00:12:12,377 --> 00:12:14,537 Speaker 1: He put the right people around him. He started listening 221 00:12:14,617 --> 00:12:17,137 Speaker 1: people like Marjorie Taylor Green and some other behind the 222 00:12:17,177 --> 00:12:20,657 Speaker 1: scenes folks who are very conservative people more aligned with 223 00:12:20,697 --> 00:12:23,577 Speaker 1: you and I ideologically, and some of our friends. And 224 00:12:23,737 --> 00:12:26,257 Speaker 1: I've been really impressed by what I've been seeing from 225 00:12:26,337 --> 00:12:29,977 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy. It has exceeded every expectations. And I've been 226 00:12:30,057 --> 00:12:33,017 Speaker 1: very publicly complimentary of him and supportive of him for 227 00:12:33,097 --> 00:12:35,297 Speaker 1: doing that. And you know, Buck, I'm a pragmatist, right 228 00:12:35,337 --> 00:12:36,457 Speaker 1: and I think you are, and I think a lot 229 00:12:36,497 --> 00:12:39,257 Speaker 1: of people we know you know, full disclosure, we're good 230 00:12:39,257 --> 00:12:41,417 Speaker 1: personal friends as well. We have a lot of mutual friends, 231 00:12:41,977 --> 00:12:44,057 Speaker 1: and we're all people who work in media politics to 232 00:12:44,137 --> 00:12:46,697 Speaker 1: a very large degree. But we're also pragmatist. If I 233 00:12:46,737 --> 00:12:50,057 Speaker 1: can get a politician, it's gonna give me eighty percent 234 00:12:50,057 --> 00:12:51,657 Speaker 1: of what a seventy percent of what I want. But 235 00:12:51,737 --> 00:12:54,817 Speaker 1: eighty percent is pretty good. I'm gonna be okay because 236 00:12:54,817 --> 00:12:58,057 Speaker 1: I know there's no hundred percent, right even NASSA doesn't 237 00:12:58,057 --> 00:13:01,137 Speaker 1: have zero tolerant, zero failure. And so I'm looking at 238 00:13:01,177 --> 00:13:03,657 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy right now and out of the gate, this 239 00:13:03,697 --> 00:13:05,977 Speaker 1: guy's been given me eighty five ninety percent of what 240 00:13:06,017 --> 00:13:07,737 Speaker 1: I want. I'll take that all day long. And if 241 00:13:07,737 --> 00:13:10,497 Speaker 1: he continues down that road. He's going to continue to 242 00:13:10,497 --> 00:13:12,457 Speaker 1: have my support, and I think a big, big amount 243 00:13:12,457 --> 00:13:14,577 Speaker 1: of credit goes to guys like Chip Roy in the 244 00:13:14,617 --> 00:13:16,457 Speaker 1: Freedom caucas who held his feet to the fire to 245 00:13:16,497 --> 00:13:19,817 Speaker 1: make certain deals. They did a great job. McCarthy's honoring 246 00:13:19,857 --> 00:13:21,377 Speaker 1: those deals. By the way, Chip Roy, I want to 247 00:13:21,377 --> 00:13:23,017 Speaker 1: single him out because I was told by people close 248 00:13:23,057 --> 00:13:26,577 Speaker 1: to that process he is the only member who asked 249 00:13:26,577 --> 00:13:29,977 Speaker 1: for nothing for himself, and when he was asked do 250 00:13:29,977 --> 00:13:31,737 Speaker 1: you want the big office? Do you want the leadership, 251 00:13:31,737 --> 00:13:33,737 Speaker 1: he's had him doing this for America. I'll paraphrase, but 252 00:13:33,737 --> 00:13:35,857 Speaker 1: I'm doing it for America. This isn't about me. I 253 00:13:35,937 --> 00:13:38,337 Speaker 1: want nothing for myself, and I think people need to 254 00:13:38,377 --> 00:13:42,537 Speaker 1: know that that deserves nothing, nothing but praise. But like 255 00:13:42,617 --> 00:13:44,897 Speaker 1: I said, I'll continue to support McCarthy if he continues 256 00:13:44,937 --> 00:13:47,857 Speaker 1: to go down this road. Yeah, I've been seeing McCarthy 257 00:13:48,217 --> 00:13:53,297 Speaker 1: do things that looks like a the wake up call, 258 00:13:53,377 --> 00:13:56,817 Speaker 1: if you will, has woken him up. It feels like 259 00:13:56,857 --> 00:13:59,537 Speaker 1: he's actually he's actually gotten the messages at some level 260 00:13:59,537 --> 00:14:03,137 Speaker 1: of what his role should be given where the GOP 261 00:14:03,297 --> 00:14:06,257 Speaker 1: is right now and the fights the fights ahead. So 262 00:14:07,057 --> 00:14:11,697 Speaker 1: you and I are Florida Residence, Ron Santiss is our governor. 263 00:14:12,377 --> 00:14:17,777 Speaker 1: Rhonda Santists just won a massive landslide victory for a 264 00:14:17,857 --> 00:14:20,897 Speaker 1: re election for a governor, and everyone is now, I 265 00:14:20,937 --> 00:14:25,937 Speaker 1: think fully assuming that he will announce for president, how 266 00:14:25,977 --> 00:14:31,217 Speaker 1: do you assess his strengths and weaknesses? Look as a governor, 267 00:14:31,257 --> 00:14:32,817 Speaker 1: I'll just say it. I think I can speak for 268 00:14:32,857 --> 00:14:34,697 Speaker 1: both of us. He's an A plus governor. I mean, 269 00:14:34,697 --> 00:14:36,537 Speaker 1: I think he's the best governor, the best governor in 270 00:14:36,577 --> 00:14:39,897 Speaker 1: the country. You know, I don't think anybody who has 271 00:14:40,577 --> 00:14:44,057 Speaker 1: been through the De Santists transformation of Florida and you know, 272 00:14:44,217 --> 00:14:48,617 Speaker 1: is saying really disagrees with that. But president, you know, 273 00:14:48,617 --> 00:14:51,577 Speaker 1: the presidency's different. Obviously running for national office is different. 274 00:14:51,657 --> 00:14:56,377 Speaker 1: So how do you assess strengths and weaknesses of Rhonda Santists? 275 00:14:56,377 --> 00:15:00,097 Speaker 1: Great governor, but assuming he's a presidential candidate, how does 276 00:15:00,137 --> 00:15:02,417 Speaker 1: it line up? Well? I think one of the things 277 00:15:02,457 --> 00:15:05,737 Speaker 1: that I'll go a little one negative first, I think 278 00:15:05,777 --> 00:15:07,697 Speaker 1: De Santist definitely is going to need to hone his 279 00:15:07,737 --> 00:15:09,697 Speaker 1: debate skills a bit. Nan He's aware of that. I 280 00:15:09,697 --> 00:15:13,017 Speaker 1: think he it was good against Charlie Crisp, but I 281 00:15:13,017 --> 00:15:15,497 Speaker 1: think in a presidential debate with it's gonna be a 282 00:15:15,577 --> 00:15:18,137 Speaker 1: very big field. I think we're gonna probably see a 283 00:15:18,257 --> 00:15:21,457 Speaker 1: repeat of twenty sixteen, you know, maybe fifteen sixteen, seventeen 284 00:15:21,577 --> 00:15:25,337 Speaker 1: primary candidates. Many of these people are professional campaigners. They 285 00:15:25,377 --> 00:15:28,017 Speaker 1: don't really win. They campaign and they debate and they're 286 00:15:28,057 --> 00:15:30,577 Speaker 1: very good at it. The Santis a duer. There's a duer. 287 00:15:30,617 --> 00:15:32,097 Speaker 1: This is a guy. I said this said the other 288 00:15:32,177 --> 00:15:34,497 Speaker 1: day on Twitter. I've been saying it. The contrast with 289 00:15:34,577 --> 00:15:36,617 Speaker 1: him in Trump is Trump gets up to the podium 290 00:15:36,617 --> 00:15:38,937 Speaker 1: and tells you what I'm gonna do, what he's gonna do. 291 00:15:39,057 --> 00:15:40,617 Speaker 1: I'll do this, I'm gonna do that, I'm gonna do this, 292 00:15:40,617 --> 00:15:42,817 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that. The Santis gets up to the podium, 293 00:15:42,857 --> 00:15:44,457 Speaker 1: holds up something he signed and said I just did 294 00:15:44,457 --> 00:15:47,017 Speaker 1: this this morning or yesterday. And so he's a doer. 295 00:15:47,097 --> 00:15:49,657 Speaker 1: So I think the one place he could tighten up 296 00:15:49,977 --> 00:15:52,777 Speaker 1: is the debate skills, which is very doable and that's 297 00:15:52,777 --> 00:15:56,017 Speaker 1: something you can practice. But in terms of performance, I 298 00:15:56,057 --> 00:15:59,257 Speaker 1: mean wow, And people sit there and accuse me night 299 00:15:59,297 --> 00:16:01,057 Speaker 1: and day on Twitter of being paid, and I want 300 00:16:01,057 --> 00:16:03,337 Speaker 1: to say it here by the Senates, I have never 301 00:16:04,017 --> 00:16:08,097 Speaker 1: and would never take a penny from Ronda Santis, any 302 00:16:08,137 --> 00:16:12,697 Speaker 1: of his official state entities, campaign entities, are affiliated entities, pacts, etc. 303 00:16:13,217 --> 00:16:16,617 Speaker 1: I don't make a dime a penny from them. My 304 00:16:16,697 --> 00:16:18,977 Speaker 1: support for him is organic because of what you said. 305 00:16:19,537 --> 00:16:22,137 Speaker 1: I live in Florida. My family is still in New York. 306 00:16:23,017 --> 00:16:26,017 Speaker 1: I just see how fortunate we are. I mean, Buck, 307 00:16:26,297 --> 00:16:28,537 Speaker 1: look at the two of us, where ten we're relaxed. 308 00:16:28,537 --> 00:16:30,377 Speaker 1: I'm in my mid eighties, you're in your late seventies, 309 00:16:30,417 --> 00:16:33,337 Speaker 1: and we look like kids because we're Florida residents. We 310 00:16:33,377 --> 00:16:37,217 Speaker 1: look amazing. That's a good points aside. It's a great 311 00:16:37,217 --> 00:16:40,017 Speaker 1: place to live, but it's a great place to do business. 312 00:16:40,057 --> 00:16:42,937 Speaker 1: We have things here like Enterprise Florida, which is a 313 00:16:43,217 --> 00:16:46,337 Speaker 1: really a Florida's Department of Commerce, which offers big incentives 314 00:16:46,617 --> 00:16:50,777 Speaker 1: for manufacturing blue collar jobs to come down to Florida. 315 00:16:51,057 --> 00:16:53,737 Speaker 1: Things you don't even hear about because the programs are 316 00:16:53,777 --> 00:16:59,617 Speaker 1: so successful. The migration here is becoming so rapid and 317 00:16:59,777 --> 00:17:01,977 Speaker 1: such a critical mask that the state of Florida doesn't 318 00:17:01,977 --> 00:17:04,577 Speaker 1: even need to market these things. And that's a testament 319 00:17:04,897 --> 00:17:07,497 Speaker 1: to the success of the guy in the governor's mansion 320 00:17:07,497 --> 00:17:10,977 Speaker 1: in Tallahassee. I mean, every day, just seems like there's 321 00:17:10,977 --> 00:17:12,817 Speaker 1: a new win, right, We're finding that we're gonna get 322 00:17:12,857 --> 00:17:15,577 Speaker 1: constitutional carry was the new one today. It advanced in 323 00:17:15,617 --> 00:17:18,057 Speaker 1: the Senate. Like every day, the agenda is winning a 324 00:17:18,097 --> 00:17:21,697 Speaker 1: little bit more. You know. There was that MSNBC host 325 00:17:21,737 --> 00:17:23,897 Speaker 1: who said the problem that RHN de Santis is going 326 00:17:23,937 --> 00:17:26,977 Speaker 1: to run up against is that people think that Florida 327 00:17:27,097 --> 00:17:31,017 Speaker 1: is just meth and alligators. I don't think the eight 328 00:17:31,137 --> 00:17:33,897 Speaker 1: hundred thousand was the number that I saw most recently. 329 00:17:34,537 --> 00:17:36,617 Speaker 1: People who have moved to the state of Florida since 330 00:17:37,137 --> 00:17:40,857 Speaker 1: the pandemic think that it's just alligators and meth. Although 331 00:17:40,897 --> 00:17:44,217 Speaker 1: there was that terrible story about an elderly woman who 332 00:17:44,257 --> 00:17:47,657 Speaker 1: was grabbed by a gator, which is rare. You know, 333 00:17:47,777 --> 00:17:50,697 Speaker 1: she was defending, trying to defend her dog and the dog. 334 00:17:51,137 --> 00:17:54,657 Speaker 1: The dog survived, she got taken underwater. Just a reminder, 335 00:17:54,697 --> 00:17:56,657 Speaker 1: you know, I had I had an uncle who was 336 00:17:56,897 --> 00:18:00,337 Speaker 1: Savannah PD, Savannah Police Apartment, and they get gators there too. 337 00:18:00,777 --> 00:18:03,857 Speaker 1: One thing he used to tell me, John, is those 338 00:18:04,017 --> 00:18:06,857 Speaker 1: that they you see them usually when you do see 339 00:18:06,897 --> 00:18:10,977 Speaker 1: them there, they look almost like they're are, you know, 340 00:18:11,137 --> 00:18:14,897 Speaker 1: kind of laid back. Then they appeared docile. Yeah, he says. 341 00:18:15,377 --> 00:18:18,217 Speaker 1: They can come out of the water like a bullet basically, 342 00:18:18,617 --> 00:18:21,217 Speaker 1: and they and they know when you're not looking, and 343 00:18:21,257 --> 00:18:23,017 Speaker 1: that's where they come for you. And then beyond that, 344 00:18:23,417 --> 00:18:26,097 Speaker 1: they're actually faster. Since we're two Florida guys sitting you're 345 00:18:26,097 --> 00:18:28,777 Speaker 1: talking about this, they're actually faster than people would think 346 00:18:28,817 --> 00:18:31,417 Speaker 1: on land over a short distance, like you don't want 347 00:18:31,417 --> 00:18:33,457 Speaker 1: one of them to come after you, even over twenty 348 00:18:33,577 --> 00:18:37,137 Speaker 1: fifteen or twenty feet. You know they've been tracted like 349 00:18:37,457 --> 00:18:39,537 Speaker 1: over thirty miles an hour on those short distances. Look, 350 00:18:39,537 --> 00:18:41,617 Speaker 1: I'm out in the I kayak out there, I do 351 00:18:41,657 --> 00:18:44,897 Speaker 1: some backcountry fishing, and I take my horses out through 352 00:18:44,937 --> 00:18:48,337 Speaker 1: those trails back there. It's exactly what you're told. These 353 00:18:48,337 --> 00:18:50,177 Speaker 1: things are docile. They look like rocks that aren't going 354 00:18:50,257 --> 00:18:53,337 Speaker 1: to move until you watch them go for a kilt. 355 00:18:53,857 --> 00:18:55,337 Speaker 1: There might be a raccoon on the bank, or a 356 00:18:55,337 --> 00:18:58,057 Speaker 1: bird or a fish. They are lightning fast. You can't 357 00:18:58,057 --> 00:19:00,457 Speaker 1: even see them move. And and uh, side note, A 358 00:19:00,457 --> 00:19:02,057 Speaker 1: buddy of mine is a debbie that was up in 359 00:19:02,297 --> 00:19:05,017 Speaker 1: Saint Lucy County where that poor woman was killed. It 360 00:19:05,217 --> 00:19:08,617 Speaker 1: was standing in the exact same spot on that bank 361 00:19:08,697 --> 00:19:11,737 Speaker 1: the night before in the dark. He's called me. He said, 362 00:19:11,737 --> 00:19:13,417 Speaker 1: I was standing right there. They got a call for 363 00:19:13,457 --> 00:19:16,737 Speaker 1: a criminal trespass potential. They didn't find anybody. They were 364 00:19:16,777 --> 00:19:18,937 Speaker 1: walking around that lake with their flashlights in the exact 365 00:19:19,017 --> 00:19:21,057 Speaker 1: spot that gator jumped out and grabbed that woman. And 366 00:19:21,097 --> 00:19:22,777 Speaker 1: that was a big gator that was ten eleven feet 367 00:19:22,777 --> 00:19:25,537 Speaker 1: and they can do tremendous they'll bring down a large animal. 368 00:19:25,577 --> 00:19:27,857 Speaker 1: So you know, an eighty five year old woman, she 369 00:19:27,937 --> 00:19:30,177 Speaker 1: really didn't stand a chance. It was really tragic. But 370 00:19:30,177 --> 00:19:32,657 Speaker 1: but to your point, that's right, real quick, I don't 371 00:19:32,657 --> 00:19:35,457 Speaker 1: want to interrupt you. But to your point, I can't 372 00:19:35,457 --> 00:19:38,257 Speaker 1: disclose this because I was told this in confidence by 373 00:19:38,297 --> 00:19:40,817 Speaker 1: some people who deal with the entities in the state 374 00:19:40,857 --> 00:19:45,017 Speaker 1: that move businesses to Florida. If people didn't Florida's method alligators, 375 00:19:45,537 --> 00:19:48,217 Speaker 1: they are going to be shocked in a very pleasant 376 00:19:48,217 --> 00:19:52,257 Speaker 1: way with some of the mega brands, the iconic companies 377 00:19:52,337 --> 00:19:56,657 Speaker 1: trying to negotiate moves to Florida for massive trunches of employees. 378 00:19:56,977 --> 00:20:00,497 Speaker 1: This is now. The state is a global powerhouse, with 379 00:20:00,537 --> 00:20:04,617 Speaker 1: international cities. Miami Fort Lauderdale's booming. The Pond Beach area 380 00:20:04,657 --> 00:20:08,057 Speaker 1: has become a political hub. They are sorely mistaken the state. 381 00:20:08,137 --> 00:20:10,657 Speaker 1: The state is a country unto itself one point one 382 00:20:10,937 --> 00:20:14,897 Speaker 1: trillion dollars GDP at twenty four billion dollars budget surplus, 383 00:20:15,097 --> 00:20:17,937 Speaker 1: twenty two and a half million residents and growing. It's 384 00:20:17,977 --> 00:20:21,217 Speaker 1: the size of four or five Balkans nations. And it's 385 00:20:21,297 --> 00:20:25,097 Speaker 1: GDP is about twenty times that many of the Balkans nations. 386 00:20:25,377 --> 00:20:28,257 Speaker 1: And so you're looking at a nation unto itself here 387 00:20:28,257 --> 00:20:30,897 Speaker 1: and not a state they're gonna be. That's a pretty 388 00:20:31,017 --> 00:20:35,497 Speaker 1: naive assessment methods, you know. 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Um all right. 438 00:22:41,297 --> 00:22:43,737 Speaker 1: So the crime issue because Florida also this this plays 439 00:22:43,777 --> 00:22:46,617 Speaker 1: in because one thing you could you would have noticed 440 00:22:46,657 --> 00:22:49,857 Speaker 1: for a while now is anytime you look at the 441 00:22:50,217 --> 00:22:53,777 Speaker 1: crime data on cities and it has been just awful. 442 00:22:54,097 --> 00:22:57,097 Speaker 1: Um and it varies. There's variations on this. Right in 443 00:22:57,137 --> 00:23:00,657 Speaker 1: San Francisco, people say, oh, it's not that bad, the 444 00:23:00,777 --> 00:23:04,297 Speaker 1: violent crimes not that bad, but the property crime is 445 00:23:05,177 --> 00:23:09,537 Speaker 1: third world, third world hellhole level. Right other places you 446 00:23:09,577 --> 00:23:13,417 Speaker 1: go to New Orleans, you go to Saint Louis, Baltimore, 447 00:23:13,817 --> 00:23:17,337 Speaker 1: you know, the violent crime rate is way higher than 448 00:23:17,377 --> 00:23:20,217 Speaker 1: it was in a few years ago. Florida cities haven't 449 00:23:20,217 --> 00:23:23,097 Speaker 1: had this happen. Well, I mean, well they really haven't. 450 00:23:23,497 --> 00:23:25,937 Speaker 1: You know. De Sante's is saying Florida as a state 451 00:23:26,017 --> 00:23:30,297 Speaker 1: is at its lowest statewide crime rate in fifty years. 452 00:23:30,737 --> 00:23:33,457 Speaker 1: And this is something that I think, I think if 453 00:23:33,457 --> 00:23:36,457 Speaker 1: you're looking for ways to get it independence in some 454 00:23:36,537 --> 00:23:40,377 Speaker 1: of these purple states, I think John they recognize that 455 00:23:41,897 --> 00:23:44,657 Speaker 1: safety is the thing that you either are on board 456 00:23:44,697 --> 00:23:46,937 Speaker 1: with or you're not. You know, public safety, you either 457 00:23:46,977 --> 00:23:51,017 Speaker 1: get it or you don't. That's right. You know, Florida culturally, 458 00:23:51,177 --> 00:23:54,137 Speaker 1: even Florida Democrats have been pro police. You don't see 459 00:23:54,217 --> 00:23:56,377 Speaker 1: one one of the things you don't see in Florida, 460 00:23:56,577 --> 00:23:59,177 Speaker 1: where we're the most populous state in America, you don't 461 00:23:59,177 --> 00:24:01,857 Speaker 1: see BLM riots. You know, Black Lives Matter doesn't riot 462 00:24:01,897 --> 00:24:06,057 Speaker 1: in Florida. Antifa doesn't riot in Florida because even your Democrats. 463 00:24:06,057 --> 00:24:07,537 Speaker 1: If I live in Fort Lauderdale, in the city of 464 00:24:07,577 --> 00:24:11,137 Speaker 1: Fort Lauderdale, half a mile in the downtown drag, we 465 00:24:11,217 --> 00:24:13,737 Speaker 1: have one of the most liberal mayors in America, guy 466 00:24:13,777 --> 00:24:16,097 Speaker 1: named Dean Trent's house, but you know what, he's not 467 00:24:16,177 --> 00:24:19,137 Speaker 1: liberal on crime. In his police department, we have a 468 00:24:19,257 --> 00:24:21,977 Speaker 1: Democrat sheriff, but you know what, the broward sheriff's office 469 00:24:22,297 --> 00:24:26,137 Speaker 1: isn't far left on enforcement of crime. And you see 470 00:24:26,177 --> 00:24:27,697 Speaker 1: this across the board. You see him in the city 471 00:24:27,697 --> 00:24:29,497 Speaker 1: of Miami, you see in Miami Gade County, you see 472 00:24:29,577 --> 00:24:32,377 Speaker 1: him in Palm Beach, even Orange County, the Orlando area, 473 00:24:32,377 --> 00:24:35,577 Speaker 1: which is which is really far left. Valdeming's an impeachment manager. 474 00:24:35,617 --> 00:24:38,977 Speaker 1: Her husband is a mayor up there. They still let 475 00:24:39,017 --> 00:24:41,777 Speaker 1: their cops and their sheriffs do their jobs, and when 476 00:24:41,817 --> 00:24:43,897 Speaker 1: they're right, they backed them. And I'm an advocate that 477 00:24:43,897 --> 00:24:45,657 Speaker 1: when your cops are right, back them. If you have 478 00:24:45,737 --> 00:24:48,577 Speaker 1: corrupt or brutal police officers, arrest them put him in handcuffs. 479 00:24:48,577 --> 00:24:51,217 Speaker 1: Any cop will tell you that, But in Florida, the 480 00:24:51,337 --> 00:24:54,377 Speaker 1: sheriff's back up their deputies and the police chiefs back 481 00:24:54,537 --> 00:24:57,177 Speaker 1: up their cops. They let them do their jobs, and 482 00:24:57,217 --> 00:25:00,297 Speaker 1: we just don't have these problems. And the important thing 483 00:25:00,337 --> 00:25:03,377 Speaker 1: to notebook is many of Florida's police departments, one of 484 00:25:03,417 --> 00:25:05,577 Speaker 1: the reasons that the Santus was on this police recruitment 485 00:25:05,617 --> 00:25:08,897 Speaker 1: tour or understaffed by the City of Miami. P D 486 00:25:09,017 --> 00:25:12,897 Speaker 1: has always been at below a minimum staffing levels, but 487 00:25:12,937 --> 00:25:14,937 Speaker 1: they manage to make it work wide because they have 488 00:25:15,097 --> 00:25:18,137 Speaker 1: mayors and county officials and city officials that'll back them 489 00:25:18,217 --> 00:25:20,497 Speaker 1: up when they do their jobs properly, and they understand 490 00:25:20,497 --> 00:25:23,017 Speaker 1: that when you're short staff sometimes you do it. They 491 00:25:23,097 --> 00:25:26,977 Speaker 1: use a level of force that is legal and justifiable, 492 00:25:26,977 --> 00:25:29,697 Speaker 1: and it might not look nice, but bad guys don't 493 00:25:29,737 --> 00:25:33,057 Speaker 1: want to be arrested peacefully. They fight back. There's no 494 00:25:33,297 --> 00:25:36,857 Speaker 1: knee jerk reaction of policing down here. That trickles down 495 00:25:37,057 --> 00:25:39,977 Speaker 1: because the bad guys know that, and they know they're 496 00:25:40,017 --> 00:25:42,937 Speaker 1: not going to be able to hire a ben Crump 497 00:25:43,337 --> 00:25:45,257 Speaker 1: over nonsense is going to come in and threaten to 498 00:25:45,297 --> 00:25:47,657 Speaker 1: sue the city for one hundred million dollars because the 499 00:25:47,697 --> 00:25:51,017 Speaker 1: police did their job properly. Those cries of races. That 500 00:25:51,057 --> 00:25:55,977 Speaker 1: doesn't fly in Florida. Even in cities that are predominantly black, 501 00:25:56,057 --> 00:26:00,977 Speaker 1: with black police chiefs and predominant black departments, there's still 502 00:26:01,057 --> 00:26:05,337 Speaker 1: this dividing line where law and order stands. And I 503 00:26:05,377 --> 00:26:08,297 Speaker 1: think that when you combine that with the fact that 504 00:26:08,337 --> 00:26:11,697 Speaker 1: it's very easy to get uh licensed to carry un 505 00:26:11,737 --> 00:26:14,657 Speaker 1: zeal weapon here. We have stand your ground laws here, 506 00:26:14,657 --> 00:26:17,817 Speaker 1: we have castle doctrine laws here that favor the individual 507 00:26:18,377 --> 00:26:23,337 Speaker 1: to an outstanding degree. We're gonna about to have constitutional carry, 508 00:26:23,377 --> 00:26:26,537 Speaker 1: permitless carry. The bad guys know there are better places 509 00:26:26,777 --> 00:26:30,937 Speaker 1: to victimize people than Florida. What is your everyday carry? John? 510 00:26:31,097 --> 00:26:33,577 Speaker 1: For the folks at home, they want to know, what 511 00:26:33,737 --> 00:26:39,217 Speaker 1: is the international arms dealer extraordinaires? What's his everyday I've 512 00:26:39,217 --> 00:26:42,777 Speaker 1: got a few I uh typically carry these days, a 513 00:26:42,897 --> 00:26:46,737 Speaker 1: sigh three sixty five X macro which is a little larger, 514 00:26:46,937 --> 00:26:49,537 Speaker 1: but on warm days, this one my sig there. Can 515 00:26:49,577 --> 00:26:53,217 Speaker 1: you see that? Is that the X? And then another 516 00:26:53,217 --> 00:26:55,617 Speaker 1: one that I just absolutely love, the glock forty three 517 00:26:55,817 --> 00:27:00,177 Speaker 1: X great great outstanding weapon. And then I by my bedside, 518 00:27:00,177 --> 00:27:03,657 Speaker 1: I have a special uh little treat Buck it's a 519 00:27:03,737 --> 00:27:08,097 Speaker 1: silenced Daniel defense three hundred blackout. Wow. Look at that, 520 00:27:08,737 --> 00:27:12,137 Speaker 1: you know happen. Very will be happy to know as 521 00:27:12,177 --> 00:27:14,577 Speaker 1: a as a Florida resident, John, I am picking up 522 00:27:14,617 --> 00:27:17,137 Speaker 1: That's about it. That's a beautiful Daniel defense. I'm picking 523 00:27:17,217 --> 00:27:20,857 Speaker 1: up my d D four from Dannual Defense tomorrow along 524 00:27:20,857 --> 00:27:23,337 Speaker 1: with the staccato that they just convinced me to buy 525 00:27:23,537 --> 00:27:25,897 Speaker 1: when I was in there the last time. So I 526 00:27:25,977 --> 00:27:28,137 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I want to get a staccato. You know, 527 00:27:28,217 --> 00:27:31,977 Speaker 1: it's a little pricing. I'm waiting on my staccato there. 528 00:27:32,177 --> 00:27:35,817 Speaker 1: I don't understand what staccato puts into that recoil spring, 529 00:27:36,137 --> 00:27:39,017 Speaker 1: but it's magic and wizardry because the damn thing has 530 00:27:39,017 --> 00:27:40,897 Speaker 1: no recoil. It's like shooting at twenty two. It is 531 00:27:40,937 --> 00:27:44,177 Speaker 1: the most well engineered handgun I've ever fired in my life. 532 00:27:45,017 --> 00:27:47,217 Speaker 1: It's it's amazing. Also, you wouldn't expect, you know, because 533 00:27:47,257 --> 00:27:53,217 Speaker 1: Barretta is the oldest privately held company still in still 534 00:27:53,257 --> 00:27:55,297 Speaker 1: an operation in the world. I think it goes back 535 00:27:55,297 --> 00:27:59,537 Speaker 1: to sixteen nineteen. Does that sound yeah? Yeah? Or six No, 536 00:27:59,577 --> 00:28:03,057 Speaker 1: not sixteen ninety, sixteen twenty. I think I'm sixteen fourteen. 537 00:28:03,097 --> 00:28:05,177 Speaker 1: It is around. You know, the sixteen nineteen is you know, 538 00:28:05,217 --> 00:28:09,217 Speaker 1: sixteen sixteen nineteen project in there. I'm purposed. I gotta 539 00:28:09,297 --> 00:28:11,777 Speaker 1: I gotta find out when the founding of Baretta was. 540 00:28:11,777 --> 00:28:13,617 Speaker 1: I don't know why that. I think it was maybe sixteen, 541 00:28:14,017 --> 00:28:18,617 Speaker 1: sixteen fourteen anyway, seven it's seventeenth century, um somewhere somewhere 542 00:28:18,617 --> 00:28:24,257 Speaker 1: along there, the founding founding of Baretta. Um. But uh, 543 00:28:24,497 --> 00:28:28,057 Speaker 1: Staccato is based in Texas. You know, you hear Baretta, 544 00:28:28,177 --> 00:28:30,617 Speaker 1: you think, oh, it's an Italian, you know, gun maker. 545 00:28:30,777 --> 00:28:34,777 Speaker 1: It makes very, very fancy shotguns. Staccato is a Texas 546 00:28:34,857 --> 00:28:37,897 Speaker 1: based handgun maker. And I guess there were tournament guns 547 00:28:37,897 --> 00:28:40,217 Speaker 1: that now people have just realized my brother got one. 548 00:28:40,217 --> 00:28:42,337 Speaker 1: I've been shooting in and I just go, oh wow, 549 00:28:42,377 --> 00:28:45,137 Speaker 1: it's it's amazing. Yeah, they used to be they used 550 00:28:45,177 --> 00:28:48,617 Speaker 1: to be branded as STI and then they did a reengineering. 551 00:28:48,737 --> 00:28:51,097 Speaker 1: They they made they took the line from forty five 552 00:28:51,137 --> 00:28:54,177 Speaker 1: acp down to nine millimeter. They re engineered them into 553 00:28:54,177 --> 00:28:57,617 Speaker 1: these spectacular weapons. They are today rebranded a Staccato. I'm 554 00:28:57,657 --> 00:28:59,617 Speaker 1: just a big fan. I'm waiting on I'm on a 555 00:28:59,657 --> 00:29:02,297 Speaker 1: waiting list for the new CS they're they're compact. It 556 00:29:02,417 --> 00:29:06,257 Speaker 1: is just an outstanding Bretta I was, I was actually 557 00:29:06,937 --> 00:29:13,537 Speaker 1: a bit off. Fifteen twenty six was when Runners founded. Yeah, 558 00:29:13,577 --> 00:29:15,297 Speaker 1: I shoot a lot of clays. Bretta. I have a 559 00:29:15,297 --> 00:29:19,417 Speaker 1: Bretta DT eleven. It is to me the best competition 560 00:29:19,457 --> 00:29:21,257 Speaker 1: shotgun on the planet. I even got the century. I 561 00:29:21,257 --> 00:29:23,897 Speaker 1: haven't got the century wrong. Yeah that's going way way back. 562 00:29:24,097 --> 00:29:28,017 Speaker 1: Um so uh, John, I mean to look at what's 563 00:29:28,057 --> 00:29:30,377 Speaker 1: going on in New York. You just had Mayor Adams 564 00:29:30,457 --> 00:29:35,497 Speaker 1: getting a little a little flustered. I think with the 565 00:29:35,657 --> 00:29:38,457 Speaker 1: recent visit of Ron de Santis where he's doing this. 566 00:29:39,137 --> 00:29:41,057 Speaker 1: I love that he went to Staten Island, by the way, 567 00:29:41,457 --> 00:29:46,497 Speaker 1: I love that he goes to Staten Island. Um yeah, um, 568 00:29:46,537 --> 00:29:48,457 Speaker 1: he goes to Staten Island because he knows that, you know, 569 00:29:48,497 --> 00:29:50,177 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of love at Staten Island, 570 00:29:50,617 --> 00:29:54,497 Speaker 1: and you know, Adams is not really like I felt 571 00:29:54,497 --> 00:29:57,497 Speaker 1: like at one point Adams was trying to maybe think 572 00:29:57,537 --> 00:30:00,737 Speaker 1: about taking over if Biden stepped aside. I feel like 573 00:30:00,777 --> 00:30:03,337 Speaker 1: that maybe has faded because I believe Biden is running again. 574 00:30:03,337 --> 00:30:05,497 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any Democrats have any choice. There 575 00:30:06,137 --> 00:30:07,937 Speaker 1: is New York getting better though on a crime on 576 00:30:07,977 --> 00:30:09,377 Speaker 1: the crime side, I don't know how many guys you 577 00:30:09,417 --> 00:30:12,537 Speaker 1: still know who are the job there but is doing 578 00:30:12,577 --> 00:30:15,857 Speaker 1: the work. Yeah many? Noah Adams. Adams is a mess. 579 00:30:15,937 --> 00:30:17,697 Speaker 1: And you know, the sad part of this thing is 580 00:30:17,697 --> 00:30:20,777 Speaker 1: that the police commissioner, she actually everybody thought she was 581 00:30:20,857 --> 00:30:24,137 Speaker 1: hired as a diversity hire or woke higher you know, 582 00:30:24,217 --> 00:30:26,377 Speaker 1: black woman. They brought her in. Everybody expected that was 583 00:30:26,417 --> 00:30:28,657 Speaker 1: the reason. But she came out of the Nassa County 584 00:30:28,697 --> 00:30:31,657 Speaker 1: Police Department. She was their chief of detectives. And everybody 585 00:30:31,737 --> 00:30:34,457 Speaker 1: has spoken to in the Nassau County PD, very conservative 586 00:30:34,737 --> 00:30:37,497 Speaker 1: men and women, said she was a great They trust her, 587 00:30:37,537 --> 00:30:42,257 Speaker 1: they like her, and that she's incredibly frustrated with Adams Constant. 588 00:30:42,257 --> 00:30:45,257 Speaker 1: Adams Constant caving to the radically far left New York 589 00:30:45,257 --> 00:30:48,177 Speaker 1: City Council. Left to her own devices, she would be 590 00:30:48,177 --> 00:30:50,457 Speaker 1: a very proactive police commissioner. And two of the people 591 00:30:50,457 --> 00:30:53,417 Speaker 1: who told me this were a senior command staff and 592 00:30:53,417 --> 00:30:57,337 Speaker 1: the Nassau County PD, who have our politics. He's are conservative, 593 00:30:57,337 --> 00:31:01,337 Speaker 1: pragmatic guys. So Adams I think got a taste of 594 00:31:01,377 --> 00:31:04,857 Speaker 1: far left money and he's a band and all reason. 595 00:31:05,377 --> 00:31:07,577 Speaker 1: He's become. He's a real disgrace. I mean, I think 596 00:31:07,577 --> 00:31:10,217 Speaker 1: he's as bad as the Blasio is. And it's said 597 00:31:10,057 --> 00:31:11,897 Speaker 1: that he's got a police commissioner who wants to be 598 00:31:11,897 --> 00:31:14,417 Speaker 1: proactive and effective. And let's face it, and the world 599 00:31:14,497 --> 00:31:15,937 Speaker 1: we live in, the fact that she's a black woman 600 00:31:16,017 --> 00:31:18,697 Speaker 1: doesn't hurt her political cover when the police have to 601 00:31:18,737 --> 00:31:21,417 Speaker 1: be proactive. The fact that he won't let her do 602 00:31:21,537 --> 00:31:25,457 Speaker 1: her job is disgraceful. But there's something important to point 603 00:31:25,457 --> 00:31:27,537 Speaker 1: out book. One of the most effective tools we had 604 00:31:27,537 --> 00:31:31,777 Speaker 1: in our toolbox, but the NYPD was stopping frisk. Stopping 605 00:31:31,857 --> 00:31:36,297 Speaker 1: frisk was deemed illegal. Put that in quotes years back 606 00:31:36,337 --> 00:31:38,937 Speaker 1: by a federal judge who knew she was going to 607 00:31:39,017 --> 00:31:40,937 Speaker 1: be overturned by the Supreme Court. He named was sure 608 00:31:40,977 --> 00:31:45,297 Speaker 1: Shinlin just she resigned her federal judge ship. The Deblasio 609 00:31:45,337 --> 00:31:49,137 Speaker 1: administration never appealed her decision, and had they stoppin frisk 610 00:31:49,177 --> 00:31:50,657 Speaker 1: would be the law of the land in New York again, 611 00:31:50,697 --> 00:31:54,217 Speaker 1: because it was already established constitutional in Terry vi. Ohio 612 00:31:54,257 --> 00:31:56,577 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty four in the US Supreme Court. So 613 00:31:56,657 --> 00:31:59,577 Speaker 1: this judge handed down a decision that flew in the 614 00:31:59,577 --> 00:32:02,097 Speaker 1: face of Supreme court precedent, he would have been overturned 615 00:32:02,137 --> 00:32:06,137 Speaker 1: summarily in a day, but no one, not Deblasio, and 616 00:32:06,177 --> 00:32:09,857 Speaker 1: now Adams is challenging that decision, appealing that decision and 617 00:32:10,137 --> 00:32:13,537 Speaker 1: putting stopping frisk back in the NYPD's toolbox and with 618 00:32:13,697 --> 00:32:18,017 Speaker 1: broken windows. Rigialiani strategy of broken windows and stopping frisk 619 00:32:18,777 --> 00:32:21,937 Speaker 1: was very simple. The bad guys were in check, murders dropped, 620 00:32:22,057 --> 00:32:25,777 Speaker 1: armed robberies dropped. The NYPD is cheating itself by not 621 00:32:25,897 --> 00:32:29,817 Speaker 1: having that tool. Why does it work? Because people now 622 00:32:30,417 --> 00:32:34,657 Speaker 1: say the line is stopping frisk doesn't work. People say 623 00:32:34,737 --> 00:32:37,057 Speaker 1: this as though that's a that's a decided fact. I 624 00:32:37,057 --> 00:32:38,697 Speaker 1: mean they also say walls don't work. I mean, there's 625 00:32:38,697 --> 00:32:42,177 Speaker 1: a lot of things. Vaccines do. The COVID vaccines, I 626 00:32:42,177 --> 00:32:43,897 Speaker 1: should say, do work. There's a lot of things people 627 00:32:43,897 --> 00:32:46,937 Speaker 1: say that don't really work. Aren't really true. Why does 628 00:32:46,937 --> 00:32:49,657 Speaker 1: stopping frisk work? We'll tell you. Okay, So let me 629 00:32:49,657 --> 00:32:51,097 Speaker 1: add one thing. The other thing that was done to 630 00:32:51,097 --> 00:32:53,577 Speaker 1: the NYPD that was simply moronic. If they got rid 631 00:32:53,577 --> 00:32:56,697 Speaker 1: of the plane, closed units, precinct level anti crime units, 632 00:32:56,737 --> 00:32:58,697 Speaker 1: and street crime units. So why are all those things 633 00:32:58,777 --> 00:33:03,457 Speaker 1: work to become an officer or and subsequently detective in 634 00:33:04,017 --> 00:33:06,697 Speaker 1: street crime unit that no longer exists or anti crime units. 635 00:33:07,057 --> 00:33:09,457 Speaker 1: You ought to be a really proactive street cop with 636 00:33:09,577 --> 00:33:15,417 Speaker 1: a they really clean an impressive activity report, right, so 637 00:33:15,457 --> 00:33:18,217 Speaker 1: you couldn't have excessive complaints you They wanted to have 638 00:33:18,257 --> 00:33:20,657 Speaker 1: a lot of gun collars, gun arrests on robbery arrests. 639 00:33:20,897 --> 00:33:22,937 Speaker 1: So what do you have down now? You've got squads 640 00:33:22,937 --> 00:33:28,217 Speaker 1: of men and women with tremendous collective experience with a 641 00:33:28,257 --> 00:33:30,417 Speaker 1: tool in their toolbox that allows them to go through 642 00:33:30,537 --> 00:33:32,697 Speaker 1: high crime areas. Say an area has a condition of 643 00:33:32,817 --> 00:33:37,017 Speaker 1: armed robberies or attempted murders or gang shootings. They know 644 00:33:37,137 --> 00:33:38,857 Speaker 1: what to look for. They in order to look for 645 00:33:38,937 --> 00:33:41,417 Speaker 1: the bulge in the waistpan, the drooping pocket, the way 646 00:33:41,417 --> 00:33:44,977 Speaker 1: a gun might fall, the way a shotgun might be concealed, 647 00:33:45,137 --> 00:33:47,857 Speaker 1: a sawt off down the leg of someone's pants. If 648 00:33:47,897 --> 00:33:50,057 Speaker 1: they're going to do a gang shooting or a drive by, 649 00:33:50,577 --> 00:33:53,217 Speaker 1: stop and first enable them to get out of their vehicle, 650 00:33:53,377 --> 00:33:57,857 Speaker 1: engage the person in conversation, and if if they saw 651 00:33:57,977 --> 00:34:01,697 Speaker 1: something the shape consistent with that of a firearm or 652 00:34:01,737 --> 00:34:05,257 Speaker 1: other weapon, they could conduct a pat down, not a search. 653 00:34:05,337 --> 00:34:07,537 Speaker 1: Couldn't go in in the clothing, in the pockets a 654 00:34:07,617 --> 00:34:11,657 Speaker 1: pat down. If that pat down revealed something consistent with 655 00:34:11,697 --> 00:34:14,697 Speaker 1: a weapon, say it was three cylinders, you can then 656 00:34:14,737 --> 00:34:16,777 Speaker 1: go in the pocket. Now, if they turned out not 657 00:34:16,777 --> 00:34:19,177 Speaker 1: to be ammunition but crack files, that would be admissible. 658 00:34:19,897 --> 00:34:23,497 Speaker 1: Typically though a gun feels like a gun, and then 659 00:34:23,497 --> 00:34:25,977 Speaker 1: you can obviously go into the clothing, remove the weapon, 660 00:34:26,097 --> 00:34:28,817 Speaker 1: secure the scene. If it's a legal, licensed weapon, everybody 661 00:34:28,817 --> 00:34:30,697 Speaker 1: goes on their way. If it's not, people go to jail. 662 00:34:31,817 --> 00:34:35,857 Speaker 1: It wasn't this indiscriminate. Let's go out there, stop everybody, 663 00:34:35,897 --> 00:34:37,937 Speaker 1: toss and throw them on the ground. No, you had 664 00:34:37,937 --> 00:34:40,897 Speaker 1: to notify a supervisor. You had to fill out the form. 665 00:34:40,937 --> 00:34:43,217 Speaker 1: I believe it was the UF two four to nine form, 666 00:34:43,257 --> 00:34:44,897 Speaker 1: going back with a few years for me, you had 667 00:34:44,897 --> 00:34:48,737 Speaker 1: to fill that out in triplicate. One went to your supervisor, 668 00:34:48,737 --> 00:34:50,857 Speaker 1: one went to the command. The other went to the 669 00:34:50,857 --> 00:34:54,377 Speaker 1: precincts Integrity control officer, which was typically a lieutenant who 670 00:34:54,417 --> 00:34:57,657 Speaker 1: was essentially the internal affairs resident in that command. There 671 00:34:57,737 --> 00:35:01,137 Speaker 1: was tremendous oversight. There were three levels of checks and 672 00:35:01,217 --> 00:35:03,697 Speaker 1: balance to make sure this wasn't abused. And it was 673 00:35:03,737 --> 00:35:06,617 Speaker 1: a tool that enabled the police to be proactive. So 674 00:35:06,657 --> 00:35:08,577 Speaker 1: when you get rid of those plane closed units, and 675 00:35:08,617 --> 00:35:10,817 Speaker 1: you get rid of a tool like stopping risk, you're 676 00:35:10,857 --> 00:35:14,017 Speaker 1: only left being reactive, meaning you show up after the 677 00:35:14,057 --> 00:35:16,617 Speaker 1: person they shot or dead because you weren't able to 678 00:35:16,697 --> 00:35:19,577 Speaker 1: go out there to the areas you knew there were problems, 679 00:35:19,577 --> 00:35:22,697 Speaker 1: focusing on the people you knew were problems and get 680 00:35:22,737 --> 00:35:25,297 Speaker 1: in front of the murder, the attempted murder, the armed robbery, 681 00:35:25,377 --> 00:35:28,497 Speaker 1: the armed rape before it happened. And that's why it works. 682 00:35:28,737 --> 00:35:30,497 Speaker 1: Have you seen some of these This is on a 683 00:35:30,697 --> 00:35:33,337 Speaker 1: much less important, serious issue, but have you seen these 684 00:35:33,457 --> 00:35:38,977 Speaker 1: videos where activists try to get cops to request their 685 00:35:39,057 --> 00:35:41,097 Speaker 1: name and ID? If? This is all over the internet 686 00:35:41,097 --> 00:35:44,257 Speaker 1: now all the time, and you know you were actually 687 00:35:44,257 --> 00:35:46,057 Speaker 1: a guy on the job. I mean, I John knows 688 00:35:46,097 --> 00:35:48,657 Speaker 1: this because we're good buddies, But I mean I was 689 00:35:48,937 --> 00:35:52,737 Speaker 1: sent by the CIA to do some analysis assistance to 690 00:35:52,817 --> 00:35:55,817 Speaker 1: the Intelligence Division the MYPD, but I never I never 691 00:35:55,817 --> 00:35:57,297 Speaker 1: had a badge and a gun at the m YPD, 692 00:35:57,377 --> 00:35:59,097 Speaker 1: so I didn't actually do arrests and things like that. 693 00:35:59,137 --> 00:36:03,377 Speaker 1: You did. So what is the actual now? I understand 694 00:36:03,417 --> 00:36:04,977 Speaker 1: it can vary by jurisdiction, but I mean, if you're 695 00:36:04,977 --> 00:36:07,217 Speaker 1: in New York, what do you have to tell a 696 00:36:07,257 --> 00:36:09,297 Speaker 1: cop when he comes up to you? And because some 697 00:36:09,297 --> 00:36:11,577 Speaker 1: of these guys I remember, or there's one guy who's like, 698 00:36:11,657 --> 00:36:13,377 Speaker 1: I'm not telling you anything, and the cops like, no, 699 00:36:13,457 --> 00:36:16,617 Speaker 1: I this is the this is the infraction. I mean, 700 00:36:16,657 --> 00:36:19,017 Speaker 1: I have reason to believe you've committed the fault that 701 00:36:19,057 --> 00:36:22,457 Speaker 1: you know you are trespassing on private property. And the 702 00:36:22,537 --> 00:36:24,697 Speaker 1: guy's like, well, no, no, I'm not and I'm not 703 00:36:24,697 --> 00:36:26,137 Speaker 1: telling you my name. And he's like, well, now you're 704 00:36:26,137 --> 00:36:29,657 Speaker 1: getting arrested, all right, So yeah, how does it work? 705 00:36:30,337 --> 00:36:32,217 Speaker 1: So yeah, so it's a good question. Right, So there's 706 00:36:32,217 --> 00:36:35,337 Speaker 1: the three levels. Right, you have a mere suspicion, reasonable suspicion, 707 00:36:35,337 --> 00:36:39,977 Speaker 1: and probable cause. Okay, mere suspicion is I'm on patrol 708 00:36:40,337 --> 00:36:43,657 Speaker 1: in a warehouse district. You're walking down the street at 709 00:36:43,657 --> 00:36:45,457 Speaker 1: three o'clock in the morning in an area where people 710 00:36:45,857 --> 00:36:49,177 Speaker 1: typically are not I really have no reason to engage 711 00:36:49,177 --> 00:36:50,937 Speaker 1: you in any way, shape or For sure, I'm going 712 00:36:50,977 --> 00:36:52,657 Speaker 1: to be a little suspicious why are you there? But 713 00:36:53,097 --> 00:36:54,937 Speaker 1: typically I'm just going to roll around the block a 714 00:36:55,017 --> 00:36:57,577 Speaker 1: couple of times and if I see, you know, a 715 00:36:57,617 --> 00:37:00,337 Speaker 1: taxi cab come pick you up. Okay, you know you 716 00:37:00,457 --> 00:37:02,537 Speaker 1: probably got lost. Whatever you call the cab, the cab 717 00:37:02,537 --> 00:37:05,537 Speaker 1: come together, are you obercame to get you? Reasonable suspicion 718 00:37:05,577 --> 00:37:08,657 Speaker 1: now would be you walk up to this warehouse. You're 719 00:37:09,097 --> 00:37:11,577 Speaker 1: kind of pulling on the wind bar as you're scheduling 720 00:37:11,617 --> 00:37:13,457 Speaker 1: the door locks. Now I'm going to go up and 721 00:37:13,457 --> 00:37:15,497 Speaker 1: engage you in conversation. What are you doing? Oh hey, 722 00:37:16,017 --> 00:37:19,217 Speaker 1: I'm John Smith. I work here. I'm an engineer. Inside, 723 00:37:19,217 --> 00:37:21,617 Speaker 1: I'm a machinist. I want to see the door was open. 724 00:37:21,657 --> 00:37:24,617 Speaker 1: I left something here at work. Here's my business carner. 725 00:37:24,657 --> 00:37:27,417 Speaker 1: Here's my boss's name, call him up. Here's my life. 726 00:37:27,457 --> 00:37:29,097 Speaker 1: You know in this situation, I'm like that. Okay, the 727 00:37:29,137 --> 00:37:30,897 Speaker 1: guy probably really does work here. He's giving me the 728 00:37:30,977 --> 00:37:33,657 Speaker 1: right name of the company. Probable causes. I'm watching you 729 00:37:33,737 --> 00:37:37,217 Speaker 1: smash the window. Or somebody called nine one one and 730 00:37:37,377 --> 00:37:40,177 Speaker 1: said we own this property, or we live across the 731 00:37:40,177 --> 00:37:41,937 Speaker 1: street from this property. We know the owners, we know 732 00:37:42,017 --> 00:37:44,457 Speaker 1: everybody there. We call the owners and the employees. They 733 00:37:44,537 --> 00:37:47,537 Speaker 1: don't know this person. He's inside the chain link fence 734 00:37:47,617 --> 00:37:50,737 Speaker 1: in the lot. Now we have reasonable suspicion leading the 735 00:37:50,777 --> 00:37:54,217 Speaker 1: probable cause. So when a police officer says, we think 736 00:37:54,217 --> 00:37:58,257 Speaker 1: you're criminally trespassing. Typically there's some stuff behind that. There's 737 00:37:58,257 --> 00:38:00,217 Speaker 1: a nine one one call, or this person fits a 738 00:38:00,217 --> 00:38:05,057 Speaker 1: description of somebody that intelligence report said was burglarizing in 739 00:38:05,097 --> 00:38:08,417 Speaker 1: the area. There are reasons that you would tell somebody 740 00:38:08,817 --> 00:38:11,137 Speaker 1: they could possibly face arrest for that. It's not just 741 00:38:11,177 --> 00:38:14,617 Speaker 1: done in a vacuum and indiscriminate. So that's general thirty 742 00:38:14,617 --> 00:38:17,617 Speaker 1: thousand foot view of how it all works. But so 743 00:38:17,737 --> 00:38:19,617 Speaker 1: if a guy is walking around, let's say, in a 744 00:38:19,897 --> 00:38:23,137 Speaker 1: in a public park, and the cops come up to 745 00:38:23,217 --> 00:38:25,737 Speaker 1: him and they say, hey, hey, what's your name, what 746 00:38:25,777 --> 00:38:29,977 Speaker 1: are you doing here? In that circumstance he is, you 747 00:38:30,017 --> 00:38:35,097 Speaker 1: can say, I'm not speaking to you right, like, yeah, now, 748 00:38:35,617 --> 00:38:38,097 Speaker 1: if this okay, So that's a scenario if they got 749 00:38:38,177 --> 00:38:42,097 Speaker 1: no call. However, if somebody called nine one one and said, 750 00:38:42,297 --> 00:38:45,777 Speaker 1: this guy mail has found at five foot ten, dark 751 00:38:45,817 --> 00:38:49,417 Speaker 1: hair and eyes, green bubble jacket like a down jacket, 752 00:38:49,417 --> 00:38:53,017 Speaker 1: blue jeans, white sneakers, was trying to entice children into 753 00:38:53,057 --> 00:38:56,857 Speaker 1: his vehicle. Now you can hold him. Now you can 754 00:38:56,857 --> 00:38:58,417 Speaker 1: try to find the people who called nine one one 755 00:38:58,457 --> 00:39:01,617 Speaker 1: with callback numbers, ask them if they'll show up there 756 00:39:02,017 --> 00:39:04,257 Speaker 1: and see if he's the person that they were talking about. 757 00:39:04,257 --> 00:39:08,097 Speaker 1: If they can identify him, then you can detain. So see, 758 00:39:08,137 --> 00:39:09,777 Speaker 1: I think this is where I think this is where 759 00:39:09,777 --> 00:39:12,977 Speaker 1: some these videos it gets interesting because the you know, 760 00:39:13,017 --> 00:39:15,457 Speaker 1: the activist or what and they're trying to bait police 761 00:39:15,497 --> 00:39:17,217 Speaker 1: officers into this. By the way, this is this whole 762 00:39:17,297 --> 00:39:20,337 Speaker 1: there's this whole culture of this um and it gets 763 00:39:20,377 --> 00:39:21,977 Speaker 1: a lot of video views and people are like, oh, 764 00:39:22,017 --> 00:39:24,377 Speaker 1: look at the cops, the whole thing. Um, it's by 765 00:39:24,377 --> 00:39:25,977 Speaker 1: the way. Sometimes for the cops, I feel like it's 766 00:39:26,017 --> 00:39:31,617 Speaker 1: almost an advertisement because some of these cops are super polite, efficient, 767 00:39:31,777 --> 00:39:36,057 Speaker 1: know the law backwards and forwards, unshakable, you know, you know, yes, no. 768 00:39:36,737 --> 00:39:38,457 Speaker 1: But it gets a little bit that that's in a 769 00:39:38,457 --> 00:39:40,497 Speaker 1: situation where the guy just walks up and he actually 770 00:39:40,497 --> 00:39:42,937 Speaker 1: doesn't have problem. Calls you laid out. But sometimes I'll 771 00:39:42,937 --> 00:39:45,017 Speaker 1: say no, no, someone called me and they think you're 772 00:39:45,017 --> 00:39:47,137 Speaker 1: trying to break in. You know, there's a break in 773 00:39:47,217 --> 00:39:50,817 Speaker 1: call and or you know there's there's a trespass call 774 00:39:50,977 --> 00:39:52,737 Speaker 1: and I need to know who you are, and they're 775 00:39:52,777 --> 00:39:56,177 Speaker 1: just like no, And then the cops get into this. Well, 776 00:39:56,217 --> 00:39:59,137 Speaker 1: I'm going to like wrestle you to the ground and 777 00:39:59,257 --> 00:40:01,897 Speaker 1: maybe tays you if you don't stop this, I'm not 778 00:40:01,977 --> 00:40:04,857 Speaker 1: going to allow you to detain me thing, right, I 779 00:40:04,857 --> 00:40:07,017 Speaker 1: mean that's you do get the sense sometimes that there's 780 00:40:07,017 --> 00:40:10,337 Speaker 1: this this nose people have where law enforcement says I 781 00:40:10,377 --> 00:40:12,737 Speaker 1: am going to detain you, and then people just say, no, 782 00:40:12,857 --> 00:40:17,857 Speaker 1: you're not. That's a good move. Most people are normally ugly. 783 00:40:17,937 --> 00:40:20,177 Speaker 1: The case in point. Personal experience got two nine one 784 00:40:20,217 --> 00:40:23,817 Speaker 1: one calls one night for a young male Black and 785 00:40:23,857 --> 00:40:26,137 Speaker 1: a young female Black. He was wearing a black chaf 786 00:40:26,337 --> 00:40:27,977 Speaker 1: twenty years ago, but I remember it. She was wearing 787 00:40:27,977 --> 00:40:30,257 Speaker 1: a red red They called him bubble jackets, you know 788 00:40:30,337 --> 00:40:32,177 Speaker 1: down the north facet head. Oh I remember, Yeah, those 789 00:40:32,217 --> 00:40:36,617 Speaker 1: are very popular black battle jacket, carrying a firearm on 790 00:40:36,697 --> 00:40:39,177 Speaker 1: his right hip, and the gun was described as a 791 00:40:39,217 --> 00:40:43,097 Speaker 1: revolver with a stainless deel finish. Pretty specific, right. They 792 00:40:43,137 --> 00:40:44,777 Speaker 1: described where they were walking. So we were a couple 793 00:40:44,817 --> 00:40:47,177 Speaker 1: of blocks away. We turned the corner and no lights. 794 00:40:47,177 --> 00:40:50,057 Speaker 1: Those sirens were in playing clothes and yeah we saw them. 795 00:40:50,297 --> 00:40:51,977 Speaker 1: So I get out of the car. We id ourselves, 796 00:40:52,017 --> 00:40:53,657 Speaker 1: said hey, can we see your hands? And the guy says, 797 00:40:54,017 --> 00:40:55,457 Speaker 1: you've got a nine one call for a gun, and 798 00:40:55,497 --> 00:40:57,937 Speaker 1: we said yeah. He said, hey, I'm an armored car driver. 799 00:40:57,977 --> 00:40:59,737 Speaker 1: I'm on my way to work. I've got my license. 800 00:40:59,777 --> 00:41:01,137 Speaker 1: I'm allowed to have the gun too. And from I 801 00:41:01,137 --> 00:41:03,217 Speaker 1: said you are, I said, can I reach for my licensure? 802 00:41:03,297 --> 00:41:06,097 Speaker 1: No problem, pulled it out. He was licensed. It was 803 00:41:06,137 --> 00:41:08,377 Speaker 1: all legit. He was an armed car driver going to 804 00:41:08,417 --> 00:41:12,097 Speaker 1: work with his girlfriend. End a story. The exchange lasted 805 00:41:12,177 --> 00:41:14,577 Speaker 1: ten seconds. We shook hands, have a great night, be safe. 806 00:41:15,217 --> 00:41:18,217 Speaker 1: That's how ninety nine point nine percent of these go. 807 00:41:18,377 --> 00:41:21,137 Speaker 1: Even when it's a mistake, these people that want to 808 00:41:21,137 --> 00:41:24,177 Speaker 1: put this on video do everything that truly can to 809 00:41:24,257 --> 00:41:27,257 Speaker 1: instigate the situation far beyond wherever need to go. In 810 00:41:27,257 --> 00:41:30,137 Speaker 1: my opinion. Oh, I know, I've seen some of them 811 00:41:30,297 --> 00:41:32,937 Speaker 1: where where it's it's clear that they are trying to 812 00:41:33,377 --> 00:41:35,777 Speaker 1: say the officer. Occasionally you see, Look, you also get 813 00:41:35,817 --> 00:41:38,857 Speaker 1: some of these officers who are a little bit like 814 00:41:38,897 --> 00:41:41,057 Speaker 1: the airline attendance with the mask rules, you know, the 815 00:41:41,097 --> 00:41:43,137 Speaker 1: little drunk on power you do what I say and 816 00:41:43,177 --> 00:41:45,457 Speaker 1: everything else, and those the videos that go super viral, 817 00:41:45,497 --> 00:41:47,897 Speaker 1: because that actually isn't what the law is, right, It's 818 00:41:47,897 --> 00:41:49,857 Speaker 1: not just you know, you have to stay here because 819 00:41:49,897 --> 00:41:51,537 Speaker 1: I say so, because I'm an officer, and you know, 820 00:41:51,737 --> 00:41:53,937 Speaker 1: look at my buff arms. I look tough. Yea, that 821 00:41:53,977 --> 00:41:56,257 Speaker 1: doesn't that's not a good look. The guy doesn't have 822 00:41:56,297 --> 00:41:59,257 Speaker 1: cardialo arms obviously, although you might have cardillo you might 823 00:41:59,297 --> 00:42:02,897 Speaker 1: have cardillo tats, because John, you gotta, you gotta are 824 00:42:03,217 --> 00:42:06,017 Speaker 1: these like relatively new as as I'm talking to you. 825 00:42:06,097 --> 00:42:09,337 Speaker 1: For those who are listening and can't see, he's got 826 00:42:09,417 --> 00:42:12,297 Speaker 1: like the Lord of the Rings trilogy written on his 827 00:42:12,457 --> 00:42:15,017 Speaker 1: right arm on the inside there like it's it's it's 828 00:42:15,057 --> 00:42:20,417 Speaker 1: a it's a not a novella, for sure. This is 829 00:42:20,617 --> 00:42:22,297 Speaker 1: um okay, I'm see how I get it in the 830 00:42:22,337 --> 00:42:26,217 Speaker 1: camera here everything's reversed. This is Thomas H. Teddy Roosevelt 831 00:42:26,217 --> 00:42:29,857 Speaker 1: Man in the arena, truncated of course, because it's a 832 00:42:29,897 --> 00:42:31,937 Speaker 1: lot longer. I don't know over the years, I've just 833 00:42:31,977 --> 00:42:34,097 Speaker 1: been putting them together. I don't have a number, like 834 00:42:34,137 --> 00:42:36,457 Speaker 1: how many tats. By the way, tattoo, I just came 835 00:42:36,497 --> 00:42:39,097 Speaker 1: back from Bora, Bora, and I like to tell people 836 00:42:39,217 --> 00:42:43,417 Speaker 1: fun fun fact. Tattoo comes from Tahiti. That is the 837 00:42:43,457 --> 00:42:47,057 Speaker 1: origin of the uh and it's a tribal you think 838 00:42:47,057 --> 00:42:50,857 Speaker 1: of Polynesian and tribal tattoos. This is where we get 839 00:42:50,897 --> 00:42:54,417 Speaker 1: the word comes from. By the way, when you're over there, 840 00:42:54,457 --> 00:42:56,337 Speaker 1: you'll see men and women, I mean women will have 841 00:42:56,457 --> 00:42:58,337 Speaker 1: well you see this everywhere now, but women will have 842 00:42:58,377 --> 00:43:02,217 Speaker 1: these really ornate tribal tattoos across like their shoulder. Usually 843 00:43:02,777 --> 00:43:04,177 Speaker 1: some of the men do. And obviously when you get 844 00:43:04,177 --> 00:43:09,057 Speaker 1: into the some of the indigenous population of Australia and 845 00:43:09,097 --> 00:43:11,457 Speaker 1: New Zealand. New Zealand's specifically the Mayori, they did they 846 00:43:11,457 --> 00:43:16,537 Speaker 1: have the face face, really intricate face tattoo. But so 847 00:43:16,777 --> 00:43:18,857 Speaker 1: sod you have a number for how many you have total, 848 00:43:18,937 --> 00:43:22,377 Speaker 1: here'll happen on A one two, about six or seven. 849 00:43:22,417 --> 00:43:24,777 Speaker 1: I guess at this point I'm just laughing because tomorrow 850 00:43:24,817 --> 00:43:30,617 Speaker 1: on Twitter, Buck Sexton sixteen nineteen advocate announces polonization of Polynesia. 851 00:43:30,657 --> 00:43:32,257 Speaker 1: You now, these people are going to spend this conversation 852 00:43:32,337 --> 00:43:35,857 Speaker 1: that they're all unatics. Oh yeah, I mean. One thing 853 00:43:35,897 --> 00:43:39,737 Speaker 1: I thought was so interesting about about Bora Bora um 854 00:43:40,937 --> 00:43:45,457 Speaker 1: was that there's a really positive relationship between and this 855 00:43:45,497 --> 00:43:47,217 Speaker 1: is from everyone I talked. Look, I was on vacation. 856 00:43:47,297 --> 00:43:49,537 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not you know, wasn't doing PhD research 857 00:43:49,617 --> 00:43:51,777 Speaker 1: or something there, But just from talking to everybody, the 858 00:43:52,737 --> 00:43:55,017 Speaker 1: look you go to. You go to some countries and 859 00:43:55,057 --> 00:43:58,057 Speaker 1: in some countries in the Caribbean, for example, and there's 860 00:43:58,057 --> 00:44:03,057 Speaker 1: still a lot of animosity toward the former colonial uh country, 861 00:44:03,097 --> 00:44:06,217 Speaker 1: colonial power, whatever it may be. In the case of 862 00:44:06,617 --> 00:44:10,697 Speaker 1: a place like French Polynesia, the relationship in the French 863 00:44:10,857 --> 00:44:14,537 Speaker 1: and the politicians is very strong. They all get EU 864 00:44:14,617 --> 00:44:18,217 Speaker 1: passports and they can travel freely back and forth, and 865 00:44:18,257 --> 00:44:20,617 Speaker 1: it's got the average I did a little research because 866 00:44:20,617 --> 00:44:24,457 Speaker 1: I was curious about the average per capita income or 867 00:44:24,497 --> 00:44:27,497 Speaker 1: gdpe per capita. I should say, uh, in this little 868 00:44:27,657 --> 00:44:29,857 Speaker 1: island chain of a couple hundred islands is like twenty 869 00:44:29,897 --> 00:44:33,177 Speaker 1: two thousand US a year, which is actually high. I mean, 870 00:44:33,177 --> 00:44:36,817 Speaker 1: that's you're you're basically at I mean, that's what you'd 871 00:44:36,817 --> 00:44:38,257 Speaker 1: have in a lot of you know, some of the 872 00:44:38,297 --> 00:44:40,497 Speaker 1: Eastern European countries I think would be maybe a little 873 00:44:40,537 --> 00:44:43,857 Speaker 1: higher than that. But you know, it's comparatively to some 874 00:44:44,937 --> 00:44:48,657 Speaker 1: places in more remote parts of the world. I mean, 875 00:44:48,657 --> 00:44:51,697 Speaker 1: that's a that's a very solid and you just you 876 00:44:51,697 --> 00:44:54,977 Speaker 1: don't get the sense that there's a real animosity toward 877 00:44:55,097 --> 00:44:57,977 Speaker 1: the former colonial authority. The French and you get all 878 00:44:57,977 --> 00:45:02,017 Speaker 1: the nice croissants and the tasty food and the beautiful weather. 879 00:45:02,097 --> 00:45:03,817 Speaker 1: So Bora Bora A big fan of it, I gotta 880 00:45:03,857 --> 00:45:06,537 Speaker 1: tell you, Yeah, the being of the beer. There's always 881 00:45:06,537 --> 00:45:08,777 Speaker 1: been the old debate that whiskey colonies and the wine colonies, 882 00:45:08,817 --> 00:45:10,537 Speaker 1: you know, how do they how do they fair? Right? 883 00:45:10,537 --> 00:45:13,137 Speaker 1: But that's interesting because then you look at Haiti, right, 884 00:45:13,177 --> 00:45:15,697 Speaker 1: it's the exact opposite. You go down to Polynesia, well, 885 00:45:15,697 --> 00:45:17,417 Speaker 1: and you gotta wonder what, you know, what's the cause 886 00:45:17,457 --> 00:45:19,737 Speaker 1: of that was there were the trade routes coming through 887 00:45:20,177 --> 00:45:23,497 Speaker 1: Polynesian war and then just they were building that wealth 888 00:45:24,057 --> 00:45:26,337 Speaker 1: for a longer period of time. Natural disasters, I don't know, 889 00:45:26,337 --> 00:45:30,417 Speaker 1: but that is an interesting metric. Former British colonies, um, 890 00:45:30,577 --> 00:45:35,217 Speaker 1: you can tell always have like you go to whole range, 891 00:45:35,257 --> 00:45:37,897 Speaker 1: a whole range of places, but the former British colonies, 892 00:45:38,177 --> 00:45:42,497 Speaker 1: they always leave behind their language, their roads and their law. 893 00:45:43,257 --> 00:45:46,377 Speaker 1: And that's just you just have that in every place 894 00:45:46,417 --> 00:45:50,297 Speaker 1: the British and whether it's Canada or it's um. You know, 895 00:45:50,737 --> 00:45:53,297 Speaker 1: name a place where the British you know, India, I mean, 896 00:45:53,297 --> 00:45:56,177 Speaker 1: you know they're there left. India has like two hundred languages. 897 00:45:56,217 --> 00:45:59,377 Speaker 1: But it was obviously a lot of English speaking spoken there. Um, 898 00:46:00,097 --> 00:46:02,657 Speaker 1: the French leave behind their food, that's really what's so 899 00:46:02,977 --> 00:46:05,097 Speaker 1: that's you know, you're no more a French colony. You're like, 900 00:46:05,137 --> 00:46:07,057 Speaker 1: I mean, I can get steak free. So that is 901 00:46:07,097 --> 00:46:09,977 Speaker 1: kind of exciting. Yep, yep, yeah, so that's it. What 902 00:46:10,057 --> 00:46:13,617 Speaker 1: What is the card What is the Cardillo travel destination? 903 00:46:13,977 --> 00:46:17,297 Speaker 1: That is that is either top recommendation or next on 904 00:46:17,337 --> 00:46:19,417 Speaker 1: the list. Since we're we're having some fun and talking 905 00:46:19,417 --> 00:46:22,377 Speaker 1: about the random things, you know that that is an 906 00:46:22,497 --> 00:46:29,057 Speaker 1: interesting one. I'll tell you right now. Um, Sicily is 907 00:46:29,097 --> 00:46:32,577 Speaker 1: on my list. You we have a good mutual friend 908 00:46:32,617 --> 00:46:36,497 Speaker 1: of family with a home there, very good friends of mine, 909 00:46:36,537 --> 00:46:38,777 Speaker 1: and I was friends of yours as well, you know, 910 00:46:38,897 --> 00:46:41,457 Speaker 1: the daughter and I was with them for lunch today 911 00:46:41,457 --> 00:46:44,057 Speaker 1: and they were showing me picks of a place they're 912 00:46:44,057 --> 00:46:47,497 Speaker 1: thinking about buying there. And interestingly enough, if anybody watched 913 00:46:47,497 --> 00:46:50,017 Speaker 1: The White Lotus, they they got married in that hotel 914 00:46:50,057 --> 00:46:52,337 Speaker 1: in season two and the place they want to buy 915 00:46:52,457 --> 00:46:55,617 Speaker 1: is close by and it just looks absolutely spectacular. So 916 00:46:55,737 --> 00:46:58,097 Speaker 1: after seeing that today and they should be on Sunday 917 00:46:58,097 --> 00:47:00,657 Speaker 1: as well, that's bumped to the top of my list. 918 00:47:00,937 --> 00:47:03,657 Speaker 1: I hear, I hear fantastic things about it. I actually 919 00:47:03,657 --> 00:47:07,737 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna take the new missus Sex in UM too. 920 00:47:08,297 --> 00:47:10,497 Speaker 1: We're thinking about going to Columbia because they had a 921 00:47:10,497 --> 00:47:14,457 Speaker 1: friend down in Colombia. It's awesome. I've been down and 922 00:47:14,657 --> 00:47:15,977 Speaker 1: you know, living in South Florida, have a lot of 923 00:47:16,017 --> 00:47:19,497 Speaker 1: friends who go back and forth. It has become a 924 00:47:19,537 --> 00:47:22,937 Speaker 1: tourist destination. The cities are incredibly safe and everyone who 925 00:47:23,017 --> 00:47:27,617 Speaker 1: goes has an absolutely phenomenal time. Interestingly enough, a couple 926 00:47:27,617 --> 00:47:29,497 Speaker 1: of buddies are a d agent who were stationed down 927 00:47:29,537 --> 00:47:31,177 Speaker 1: there and it was a war zone. Now go back 928 00:47:31,177 --> 00:47:33,657 Speaker 1: on vacation and love it. They love it. So that's 929 00:47:33,737 --> 00:47:36,057 Speaker 1: that's on my shortlist as well. Yeah, all right, cool 930 00:47:36,097 --> 00:47:37,977 Speaker 1: well John, I always great to hang out man. Thanks 931 00:47:37,977 --> 00:47:40,697 Speaker 1: for being here with us, and we will we'll have 932 00:47:40,737 --> 00:47:43,137 Speaker 1: you back on talk about a whole range of issues, 933 00:47:43,177 --> 00:47:44,937 Speaker 1: including what I think is going to be a very 934 00:47:44,937 --> 00:47:49,497 Speaker 1: interesting Republican primary. But follow John Cardillo on Twitter everybody, 935 00:47:49,657 --> 00:47:52,297 Speaker 1: and keep an eye out for him on all the 936 00:47:52,417 --> 00:47:54,817 Speaker 1: various platforms out there, including this one. John, thanks for 937 00:47:54,817 --> 00:47:58,057 Speaker 1: hanging out anytime. Brother, Let's go shooting, so Buck, thanks 938 00:47:58,257 --> 00:47:58,897 Speaker 1: absolutely