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Speaker 1: Welcome to a live edition of Dodgers' Territory on this

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Speaker 1: We welcome in those watching Foul Territory and also welcome

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Speaker 1: I love the fact that everybody's clamoring to have a

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Speaker 2: He is back on fire. Had a little bit of

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Speaker 1: It's sexy. It wasn't sexy, but he got it down

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Speaker 1: had a thirty thirty season, but this year he's not.

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Speaker 1: The Mets are just a mess, and I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: hitting is contagious and nobody.

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Speaker 2: Is what what is what is one of the addage?

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Speaker 2: You know, so it's look good, feel good. It's looked good,

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Speaker 2: play good. It's play good, play good. If he's around

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Speaker 2: a better team, I think Francisco Lindor would be reinvigorated.

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Speaker 2: We had the quote a couple of weeks back when

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Speaker 2: he was playing against his former team, the Cleveland Guardians,

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Speaker 2: saying that he misses.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, last, they're in last with them,

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Speaker 1: they're in last without him, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: Like d Max number one fanland Or might do better

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Speaker 1: in Dodger Blue, not having to be that dude to

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Speaker 1: carry the team. But he's not necessarily that dude in

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Speaker 1: New York either. I mean at Pete Alonzo, I feel

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Speaker 1: like is more of the dude. But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: maybe I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just don't his way out. Let's be real, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if Coen is I mean, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't think he's gonna I don't think they're gonna re

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Speaker 1: sign Alana to long term deal. I think they would

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Speaker 1: have done that already. Roy A Strata, the Mets would

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Speaker 1: need to eat the majority of that contract. That's a

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Speaker 1: great point, roll. I mean, we were talking about that

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Speaker 1: earlier because with Cohen, like eating the majority of Scherzerers

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Speaker 1: contract and Verlanders contract. You're thinking, man, maybe he you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe the Mets eat eighty million of Lindor's contract, you know,

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Speaker 1: ten millionaire. That's a lot, but a guy, the guy

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Speaker 1: has a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And if this, if the Mets do want to

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Speaker 2: kind of kickstart a rebuild, then you have a bunch

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Speaker 2: of pitching in the Dodgers organization, You have some catching help.

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Speaker 2: They can they can get a lot of talent back

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Speaker 2: as long as they're sending some money back. The Dodgers,

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Speaker 2: Let's be real, they have a shortstop issue. Gavin Lux

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Speaker 2: is not going to be the answer. Mookie Bets is

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Speaker 2: not the answer for long term. He could be the

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Speaker 2: answer for this year, but they don't have a shortstop

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Speaker 2: for next year, for three years from now, and that's

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Speaker 2: just a reality. As we're Francisco, Lindor is still playing

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Speaker 2: a good shortstop. And you know, the hope is you're

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Speaker 2: banking on the talent to come back, uh, the the

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Speaker 2: offense to kind of you know, bounce back when he's

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Speaker 2: playing on a better team. He's in a playoff hunt,

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Speaker 2: not playing on you know, arguably the worst team in

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Speaker 2: baseball at the moment. So it's just something. It's it's

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Speaker 2: something to start spitballing out there again. Dodgers need a shortstop,

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Speaker 2: the Mets need to rebuild. Steve Cohen has money, and

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Speaker 2: and it's early. It's it's May, so we can have

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Speaker 2: these kind of wild speculation. Uh, it's not even a speculation.

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Speaker 2: This is just a conversation.

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Speaker 1: There's just spitballing here, guys. We're just spitballing. No need

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Speaker 1: to hold us to you know, hold this to it.

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Speaker 1: We're just having a combo. By the way, if you

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Speaker 1: think the Mets are the worst organization, I think the

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Speaker 1: white slaves would say hold my beer. As far as

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Speaker 1: that concerned. Our friend of the program, what's up?

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Speaker 2: I said, National League? Then Mets the worst?

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Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, fair enough. Our Fabi and ar Daya,

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Speaker 1: who does a great job on the athletic brought up

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Speaker 1: an interesting point too that the Dodgers are throwing more sinkers.

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Speaker 1: They're not getting rid of other pitches, Clint, but they're

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Speaker 1: throwing more sinkers, and not just Tyler Glasnell's arsenal, but

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Speaker 1: a lot of different guys. Fabian was saying that Tyler

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Speaker 1: Glasnew to Gavin Stone, to Ryan Yarborough to Yoshinobu Yamamoto

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Speaker 1: and beyond. They aren't trying to buck convention of the

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Speaker 1: high forcing fastball, but it's actually helping their fastball. Is

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Speaker 1: this something that you've noticed. It was a good observation

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Speaker 1: by Fabian, for sure.

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Speaker 2: I think it's definitely something you notice, and thank you know,

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Speaker 2: thank to Fabi in there for kind of putting the

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Speaker 2: words in our brain for something our eyes are already seeing.

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Speaker 2: But the Dodgers are reinventing the wheel by going old school.

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Speaker 2: You change eye level, you go side to side, northwest,

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Speaker 2: all that kind of directions that are on a compass.

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Speaker 2: I lost most of them there. But adding that, thinker,

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Speaker 2: you're reintroducing the bottom of the strike sound to hitters

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Speaker 2: who over the last five, you know, ten years, maybe

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Speaker 2: not ten, but over the last few years, have caught

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Speaker 2: up to that high fastball. They're they're looking for that

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Speaker 2: and probably swinging at a breaking ball away. But to

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Speaker 2: have something moving back in on right handers, something the

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Speaker 2: old Maddox to left handers in on the belt buckle,

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Speaker 2: coming back and hitting the strike zone, that's gonna go

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Speaker 2: a long way. And the guy we see on the

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Speaker 2: screen there, I think has been the most reaped the

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Speaker 2: benefits the most, that being Gavin Stone, who is an

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Speaker 2: entirely different pitcher this year, and he put in the work,

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Speaker 2: but also that that repertoire change that we did speak

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Speaker 2: to Mark Pryor about a little bit a couple of

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Speaker 2: weeks ago, and I still STI want to talk to

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Speaker 2: Mark some more because that's just so much fun for me.

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Speaker 2: But it's the right top of the strike zone, bottom

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Speaker 2: of the strike zone, east west, north south, It's all there,

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Speaker 2: and it helps. It helps this team have arguably one

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Speaker 2: of the best pitching staffs in the game while still

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Speaker 2: being one of the more injured pitching staffs in the game.

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Speaker 1: By the way, for your directionally impaired self, it's never

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Speaker 1: eat shredded wheat, never eat sour worms. Okay, I mean

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Speaker 1: just it's probably not that bad. This is something we

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Speaker 1: learned in the third grade, for goodness saying, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: were talking about Gavin Stone, and I know you're high

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Speaker 1: on this kid, but Dave Roberts said, listen, he's the

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Speaker 1: best when he throws that low dart, and that's something

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Speaker 1: that we're seeing him do more. So that's the one

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Speaker 1: thing I do enjoy about the Dodgers organization is they

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Speaker 1: let guys be themselves in terms of what has made

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Speaker 1: you successful to this point. But once you feel comfortable

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Speaker 1: doing that, let's see what else we can do to

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Speaker 1: make you even more successful. Add something else to the repertoire,

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Speaker 1: add another outpitch, and I think you're seeing that they're

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Speaker 1: doing it, not just with Stone, but for you know,

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Speaker 1: the guys that Fabian mentioned.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. I love seeing this team continue

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Speaker 2: to not just be okay with the status quo, keep

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Speaker 2: getting better something the Mets don't do. But you keep

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Speaker 2: getting better, you keep changing some things.

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Speaker 1: All right. Time now for last licks, as we kind

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Speaker 1: of conclude our Dodgers' territory show, here we go, all right,

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Speaker 1: last licks. This is Buck. He is a one and

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Speaker 1: a half year old husky Clint. He's smart, he is

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Speaker 1: so eager to please. He just loves people, He loves kids,

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Speaker 1: he loves other dogs. He is in need of a home.

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Speaker 1: The unfortunate thing is the LA Animal Services Organization, which

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Speaker 1: is worse than the New York Mets, allowed Buck to

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Speaker 1: get adopted by a ninety three year old elderly gentleman

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Speaker 1: who cannot handle a one and a half year old husky.

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Speaker 1: Huskies are active, they need mental and physical stimulation. He

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Speaker 1: is available for adoption. He is healthy, He's wonderful. Please

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Speaker 1: reach out to us Gidrisguardian dot org or you can

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Speaker 1: shoot me a DM on Twitter Instagram. I can get

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Speaker 1: you more information. He's about to get newtered. That's very

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Speaker 1: important in terms of, you know, controlling the pet population.

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Speaker 1: Bob Barker. Also, it lengthens the dog's life and it

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Speaker 1: makes him not so not so crazy. But Buck is awesome,

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Speaker 1: So please reach out if you're interested in him. All right,

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you before we wrap the show

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Speaker 1: up your perspective on the Ronald Acunya junior injury and

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Speaker 1: how it affects the National League.

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Speaker 2: In the league in general, I'll say, yeah, baseball is wise,

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Speaker 2: It's awful. You don't want to see one of the

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Speaker 2: biggest draws in the game, one of the the reigning

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Speaker 2: MVP in the National League get injured again. And I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying him hurting himself is stupid, but in

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Speaker 2: such like a chicken shit way for it to happen,

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe run into like a you get in

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Speaker 2: a car accident or something. I'm gonna bag, you know,

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Speaker 2: you get my point here, Like it's I'm trying to move,

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to turn them, trying to get back to

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Speaker 2: the base, and then this happens, and it's devastating for baseball.

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Speaker 2: We know there are some fans that are out there like, oh,

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Speaker 2: this is great for the Dodgers, and sure, on paper

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Speaker 2: maybe it does help, but you don't want to see this.

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Speaker 2: You don't wish injuries to any opponent. You don't wish

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Speaker 2: injuries anybody. And this is devastating for baseball for a

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Speaker 2: Kunya because now we're gonna be without him for another year,

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Speaker 2: year and a half, and who knows what he's going

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Speaker 2: to be like when he comes back from a second

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Speaker 2: ACL injury.

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Speaker 1: Well, and it sucks for him because in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: one it was the other led. He missed the remainder

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Speaker 1: of the season. They go on and win the World Series.

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Speaker 1: I hate this for him obviously. Let me ask you

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Speaker 1: this though, even before the Acunya injury, do you think

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Speaker 1: the Phillies are a bigger threat to the Dodgers or

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Speaker 1: the Braves.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're talking about this a little bit earlier between us.

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Speaker 2: The easy answer is the Phillies. Obviously, the Phillies, we

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Speaker 2: don't know if this is gonna be one of those

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Speaker 2: clock strike strikes midnight situations for them, but they are good.

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Speaker 2: They have the pitching, they finally have some semblance of

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Speaker 2: a bullpen, but they have the bats and they're able

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Speaker 2: to put it all together. Dodgers fans, Braves fans, for

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years, have been robbed of that

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Speaker 2: re rematch, you know, the three peat blood bat that

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Speaker 2: we were expecting in the NLCS. It hasn't been there.

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Speaker 2: And the team, the Braves went out and restocked a

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Speaker 2: little bit, finding, you know, Chris Saale being healthy again

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Speaker 2: and being his dominant side young self. So it was

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Speaker 2: looking like things were trending towards maybe maybe these two

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Speaker 2: teams finally get that opportunity to play against each other

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Speaker 2: again in the NLCS. And we're not saying that that's

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Speaker 2: not there, but this definitely helps the Phillies a lot

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Speaker 2: more in the NL East and maybe maybe with the

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Speaker 2: Dodgers eventually meeting up with them. But I would argue,

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Speaker 2: of the two teams to beat in the National League,

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Speaker 2: it is a Dodgers and it is the Philadelphia Phillies

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Speaker 2: hot take.

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Speaker 1: On May thirtieth, Ranger Suarez wins the National League Cy Young,

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Speaker 1: what do you got coming up on All Dodgers tonight?

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Speaker 1: It's Thirsty Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Thirsty Thursday. We're going an hour later. It is a

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Speaker 2: seven pm start Pacific time, and me and our friend

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Speaker 2: Scott Gearman of Dodger Blue. He's going to be joining

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Speaker 2: me on the channel and we are going to be

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Speaker 2: doing our the next installment of our monthly grades series.

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Speaker 2: So we're only breaking down everything about this team in

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Speaker 2: the month of May, what we liked, handing out our

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Speaker 2: ab CDs and f's whatever it may be, and probably

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Speaker 2: talking a little bit more about some trade stuff. So

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Speaker 2: you guys tube in All Dodgers with Quinn Pasias here

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Speaker 2: on YouTube and subscribe here to the All Dodgers YouTube

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Speaker 2: or what do'll we call territory YouTube, Rodgers Territory.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you get a D for today. By the way,

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Speaker 1: since you're giving out grades, I'm gonna give myself like

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Speaker 1: a B minus. All right, don't forget that the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: started a three game series with the Colorado Rockies coming

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Speaker 1: up back at Chavez Ravine, And make sure you listen

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Speaker 1: to Clint's podcast tonight, All Dodgers. We will be back

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Speaker 1: on Monday for another episode of Dodgers' Territory on the

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Speaker 1: Foul Territory Channel, Los Angeles Ald Territory two on Twitter

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Speaker 1: and all that good stuff. So appreciate you guys being here.

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Speaker 1: Take care, Bi,