1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:01,240 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. 2 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: You want experience during your football season, Well, buckle up, 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: sweet cheeks. All We've got all the experience in the world. 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: This is I Want Your Flex with Dan Bayer and 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: Mike Harmon. Mike and Dan break down everything you need 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 2: to set your lineups, from position rankings. 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 3: To starts and sits. The guys help you make those 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 3: hard decisions. And now let's get your flex sod. Here's 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 3: Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon, and. 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 4: Then there were eight Welcome in. It is I Want 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 4: Your Flex a postseason playoff edition. Hit Mike up at 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 4: Swollen Dome. You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 4: You can find Ian Roddy at Ian Roddy Underscore. Let's 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 4: get right to it, Mike, your Chicago Bears Saturday Night. 15 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 4: Let's start from the Saturday games in the NFC, the 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 4: Bears down twenty one to three and a halftime rally for 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 4: a victory over their heated rival, the Bleep the Packers. 18 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: They bleeped the Packers by the way. 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 4: Thirty twenty seven as Ben Johnson, Killer Williams and crew 20 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 4: get the last laugh. And I would imagine a pretty 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 4: good time for you on Saturday night, a lot. 22 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 5: Of chirping going around. You guys appreciate this, right, So 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 5: I get the kid out to Boise. She's gonna starter 24 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 5: semester all this, and we find a place to go 25 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 5: sit and have a bite to eat, which has now 26 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 5: become a staple. Good cheese curds, right, and you know yeah, 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 5: And it's one of those places where on the menu 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 5: it tells you where everything on the menu comes from. 29 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: Here's where beef. 30 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 5: Here's where you get our potatoes here, and I know 31 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 5: you know where. Here's where we get our cheese, like 32 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 5: you name it all the way down to every bit 33 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 5: of produce. 34 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 6: But we're sitting were watching. 35 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 5: The game, and we get to the point where we're done, 36 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 5: right because I got an early show with Greg co 37 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 5: Sell on the network. I'm not and I'm not really 38 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 5: drinking for a while now, whole health whatever. And so 39 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 5: we're done with our meal and there's still like twelve 40 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 5: and a half minutes left. 41 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 6: I'm looking at my daughter. 42 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 5: I'm like, I can't we can't keep this table, Like 43 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 5: we're not spending any more money. It's a Saturday night. 44 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 5: I'm feeling bad, like if someone wants to come and 45 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 5: have a meal, or beer or whatever. It's like, she goes, 46 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 5: I go put put it on your your prime. Let's 47 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 5: let's bring that up. And so we go sit in 48 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 5: the car and we're watching it in the in the 49 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 5: rental and we're banging on the hood and losing our 50 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 5: minds in the final minutes and people are walking by, 51 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 5: like the hell's wrong with these people? Which was made 52 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 5: for a fun little ending. But as I'd left our 53 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 5: you know, our our help, our server, waitress, whatever term 54 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 5: we're using, she's she was telling me how she's a 55 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 5: big Lions fan, and so like basically did Ben Johnson 56 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 5: said blank them both that she goes, well, you know, 57 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 5: I'm sorry. I'm like, well, until there's two minutes left, 58 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 5: it really doesn't matter anyway, right, and she goes, ah, 59 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 5: you know whatever, have a good night. And then this 60 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 5: is what we watch, you know, big time. Even though 61 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 5: you're down several folks, right, you lose Trapillo, you lose Edwards, 62 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 5: you you lose these these bodies down the stretch. Trapillo 63 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 5: is able to get off the field so you don't 64 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 5: have to use the time out. Like all of these 65 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 5: things come come into into play, and then that Caleb 66 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 5: Williams throw to DJ Moore is something that I mean, 67 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 5: you can't script it any any better, you can't execute 68 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 5: any better. For so, for all of the the debates 69 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 5: of some of the misses, I mean that throw is example, 70 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 5: you know, forty two from this year of that's why 71 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 5: he's different. And when this finally all does come together 72 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 5: and we assume it does, it's it's even a more 73 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 5: dangerous thing. So Ben Johnson will be saying blank everybody 74 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 5: before it's done. But you know, to actually have you know, 75 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 5: a Bear's team win twice over a Packers squad and 76 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 5: come back like they did, I mean, I'm old enough 77 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 5: to remember when Lynn Dickey and and Don Mkowski were 78 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 5: still running the so to actually win two games, not 79 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 5: in a five year period, but in the same year, 80 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 5: I don't, I don't know, this feels weird. 81 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 4: Mkowski was helped by replay, there was there was that 82 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 4: portion of it. But uh but the uh, the funny 83 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 4: part about like what happens in these moments and I 84 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 4: think that we can all agree and you talk about 85 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,799 Speaker 4: the touchdown pass, but it's the fourth and eighth, yeah, 86 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 4: you know, down eleven like those like that's funny to 87 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 4: me on how stuff just ends up becoming lore because 88 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 4: it's not the highlight, because it's not the winning touchdown, 89 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 4: but it is the play that changed everything. Like if 90 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 4: you're a Green Bay you think that you know the 91 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 4: game is over and if you get that stop at 92 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 4: that point and then it's it's not. And by the way, 93 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 4: not everything went the Bear's way, like it wasn't like 94 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 4: a perfect storm of things. Certain things did, for sure, 95 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 4: but like Green Bay, you know, not getting out of bounds, 96 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 4: you know, or getting out of bounds I should say, 97 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 4: you know in a couple of those in instances to 98 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 4: not run clock. 99 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: I thought, was all right, that's kind of bad on 100 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: Green Bay. 101 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 4: But I don't think that Chicago got like all of 102 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 4: the breaks that you thought would need to go your 103 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 4: way when you're down twenty one to three at the 104 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 4: half and. 105 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: Still figured out and found a way to do it. 106 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 4: And Carrie Rhodes and I were in on Monday on 107 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 4: the Network and you know, we did our Sunday show 108 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 4: as well. He's like, you know, if I'm the Bears, 109 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 4: I just try to go tempo early because when you 110 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 4: get Caleb Williams in that tempo, he's just darn good. 111 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 4: And to your point, of everything that you think that 112 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 4: he is. If you can get him in those tempo situations, 113 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 4: he can thrive, and he sure did Saturday night. 114 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 6: Yeah. 115 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 5: I mean we've watched it all season long, right, first 116 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 5: halves have been slow, Right, whatever you're playing up the 117 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 5: chess match or however you want to try to explain 118 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 5: it away. A lot of these first halves are slogs, 119 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 5: and you're down to this big deficit because your defense, 120 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 5: and we've talked about it on the podcast all year, guys, 121 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 5: is like it's not good. There's opportunistic created a lot 122 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 5: of turnovers, al Harris's defense, some backs and everybody getting 123 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 5: after it, no question about it. But when it comes 124 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 5: down to it, like the offense until there's that blinking 125 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,239 Speaker 5: red light saying now it's time to go to work, 126 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 5: it's just a slog. And you know you mentioned the 127 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 5: pass to a dunees like that's the one that will 128 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 5: be in the home, you know for him, right, you 129 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 5: know the DJ Moore was the touchdown a couple of 130 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 5: weeks ago in that big spot. But yeah, as you 131 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 5: mentioned that, like that's that those are the throws that 132 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 5: are creating this stuff of legend and belief. But you 133 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 5: know for Matt Lafleur, it's always the I don't I 134 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 5: don't want a guy to get fired, right, especially when 135 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 5: there's not an obvious better option. 136 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 6: But trying to explain. 137 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 5: Away how you coached away at twenty one to three 138 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 5: lead and the field goal kicking unit did not help you, Right, 139 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 5: a man has had a terrible game, but that you're 140 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 5: still not able to dial up enough in a day 141 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 5: and age where you get to run run the ball 142 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 5: and it's it's a minute off the clock every time 143 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 5: you run it, even if the guy falls down on 144 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 5: his face. 145 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes sense to me. 146 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 4: I just I think that Packer fans are just fed 147 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 4: up and I don't think that they woke up reading 148 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 4: the reports that Lafleur is likely going to be back 149 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 4: next year and felt good about it. And I hear 150 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 4: a lot of well, if you don't want this guy, 151 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 4: find a better solution, And I don't know if there 152 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 4: is one out there, John Harbaugh I think on the 153 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 4: surface would be I don't know if that's what green 154 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 4: Bay needs, but green Bay needs to find somebody to 155 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 4: close out these games. 156 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: And Packer fans. I said this on Sunday. 157 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 4: That I think that because because it's not Philadelphia, because 158 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 4: they're not, you know, loud like the Bears fans. Maybe 159 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 4: like their their fan base gets misrepresented on like the 160 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 4: passion they have for their team. You know, we hear 161 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 4: the Minnesota nice for the Upper Midwest. Maybe some of 162 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 4: that has done with Wisconsin. But they're ticked off. They're 163 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 4: sick of it. They don't want to lose to the Bears, obviously, 164 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 4: especially after having all the success that they've had, and 165 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 4: more importantly, they want to win Super Bowls and to 166 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 4: have the Buccaneers NFC Championship game and the way that 167 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 4: it did with the conservative call in kicking the field goal. 168 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, I've been after that for years. 169 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, add all of them up. 170 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 4: You know, you can go on to the forty nine 171 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 4: ers when they had a lead couple of years ago, 172 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 4: you know in San Francisco, they had the home game 173 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 4: and they were up ten to nothing and playing on 174 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 4: an ice rink basically, and let the forty nine ers 175 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 4: come back in and what they didn't score offensive touchdown 176 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 4: or whatever the stat was with the forty nine ers, 177 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 4: but they blocked the punt and then they were ended 178 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 4: up kicking a couple of field goals to win the game. 179 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 4: Now they're frustrated, and I don't know how much. I 180 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 4: don't know how much hope that's the wrong word. I'm 181 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 4: trying to figure out the right word. But moment him 182 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 4: going in the next year with Matt Lafleur as your 183 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 4: head coach. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I'm reading too much 184 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 4: into it. Jordan Love looked great, Dob stepped up, Matthew 185 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 4: Golden finally got into the end zone. But I just 186 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 4: don't know how much on the green Bay side of things, 187 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 4: you know, Matt Lafleur is sticking around is maybe the 188 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 4: best thing for Green Bay. 189 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: I just I don't think that it is. 190 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 7: Guys, I always get a little confused with stuff like this, 191 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 7: and and I get that the chatter is going to 192 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 7: be there, especially when you keep losing playoff games like this. 193 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 7: But when a guy like Matt Lafleur has the sustained 194 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 7: success that he's had in the league, in a tough 195 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 7: division with multiple quarterbacks, I just I'd be hard for 196 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 7: us to get rid of a guy like that, especially because, 197 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 7: like I feel like there's this sentiment that when a 198 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 7: guy loses playoff games a few years in a row, 199 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 7: that we start to think like, Okay, he can't do 200 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 7: it then, and I just don't think that's the case. 201 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 7: I think each year is different, each year should be 202 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 7: viewed in a vacuum. And while he obviously is having 203 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 7: issues with blowing these especially this game was like egregious. 204 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 7: But to me, it's like when you have a guy 205 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 7: that's shown that he he's a good coach in this league, 206 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 7: you want to give him lots of tools and lots 207 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 7: of opportunities to get you over the hump. At least 208 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 7: that's the way I see. 209 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you know, Dan enumerated all the end 210 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 5: of games, right, You've got leads, you've played as well 211 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 5: as you can, and you somehow can't close the job. 212 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 5: I'll never forget when the field goal unit came on 213 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 5: and Rogers like, all right, all right, tough guys, you 214 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 5: and then they give the ball back to Brady, and 215 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 5: well it's history. And for those first couple of years 216 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 5: ran rough shot right, thirteen win seasons right off the jump. 217 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 5: The division sucked right, The Lions were terrible, the Bears 218 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 5: have been awful all along, and Minnesota was good enough 219 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 5: to sting you once in a while, but certainly not 220 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 5: a juggernaut. So you had your run of the division, 221 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 5: you had your chance, and now everybody's caught up. It 222 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 5: would would be how I guess I would answer that. 223 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 5: And again I'm not used to having any coach that 224 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 5: you'd said, that's the guy I want long term, right, 225 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 5: I mean, I mean that's a whole different world. Like 226 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 5: when we extended the Tomlin conversation as we will, and 227 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 5: even Harball getting let go last week and all of 228 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 5: those things, like it just becomes the all right, we're here, 229 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 5: we got a to B. 230 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 6: How are we getting B? Two C? And is this 231 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 6: the guy to do it? After what is it now? 232 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 6: Seven seven years, Dan. 233 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, seven years, six playoff appearances, a couple of NFC 234 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 4: Championship games back to back in his first two years, 235 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 4: those were thirteen win seasons, as was his third season 236 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 4: when they went eight to nine, nine and eight, eleven 237 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 4: and six and nine to seven and one with two 238 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 4: exits in the wild card game. For these past two seasons, 239 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 4: ians In's Ian's not wrong right in what he's what 240 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 4: he is saying. I just also look at Green Bay 241 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 4: though not that it's fool proof, but this may be, 242 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 4: this may be an error and thinking this way, but 243 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 4: the organization has run so well that they'll be able 244 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 4: to find their guy that has success, that they're not 245 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 4: going to just churn through coaches like other organizations do. 246 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 4: And I think that that's that's something that's different about 247 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 4: green Bay, and it's not just the head coach. I 248 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 4: think that I think it would be fair to also 249 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 4: say that the team who lost five in a row 250 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 4: when Michael Parsons went down also hasn't necessarily had a 251 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 4: chance to build around Michael Parsons because the trade happened late, 252 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 4: and you know, you do give up assets as part 253 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 4: of that build. But maybe if there is a view, 254 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 4: if who knows if Jeff Hafley is going to be 255 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 4: around for that vision, that they would they would have 256 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 4: to build around Michael Parsons, that could be another reason 257 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 4: for keeping the floor. I just I just feel that 258 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 4: apathy is going to start to set in, and if 259 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 4: you give them a deal now and it happens again 260 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 4: next year, then I think you're kind of stuck, and 261 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 4: maybe green Bay then would pull the plug and move on. 262 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 4: Maybe they don't love the candidates in this cycle and 263 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 4: feel that there could be other options elsewhere. But I 264 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 4: just think that blowing that twenty one to three lead 265 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 4: when he was already feeling the heat. Yeah, it's I'm 266 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 4: surprised that they are still thinking about bringing him back. 267 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: Mostly. 268 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, organizational stability does count for something, yeahcause we certainly 269 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 5: have very few organizations that have operated that way. With 270 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 5: a long view and your point, Dan, you know Micah 271 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 5: Parsons coming in late and what that did to a 272 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 5: defensive in hell. Look, I'm no big fan of Matt Eberflus, 273 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 5: but it's not exactly the same defense that you've been 274 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 5: planning to run all off season. When suddenly this guy 275 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 5: gets taken out. Yeah right, say nothing of what happened 276 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 5: with your secondary and injuries and effectiveness and whatever else. 277 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 5: But you take Michael Parsons away, every other guy is 278 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 5: compromised from what you expect him and his role to be. Likewise, 279 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 5: in Green Bay, he shows up and then you're starting 280 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 5: to get some momentum and starting to roll. He gets hurt, 281 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 5: and all of a sudden you're scratching and clawing. You 282 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 5: lose Tucker Kraft, who is your most effective, consistent I 283 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 5: need a shot, you know, I need this first down guy, 284 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 5: and suddenly he's not there and became more of a 285 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 5: mismatch down the field, so you know on both sides 286 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 5: of the ball. Look, injuries happened to everybody, right, every team. 287 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 5: You know, you got a laundry list, and nobody goes 288 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 5: through unscathed. But those are two pretty big chess pieces 289 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 5: for how they want to operate. That got taken off 290 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 5: the board. 291 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: Well for the first days. It continues. 292 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 4: The Ben Johnson rivalry, which Packers bears is back to 293 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 4: being on top, and that's a good thing for the 294 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 4: National Football League and Jordan Love. Even then the loss, 295 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 4: you know, three twenty three and four scores, so you 296 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 4: at least and then you get, as you said, get 297 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 4: Tucker Kraft back next year. 298 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: Who knows when Parson's going to be available. 299 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 4: People guestimating or he's saying maybe not week one or two, 300 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: but could be soon after that. We shall see a 301 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 4: long offseason for Green Bay. We'll dive more into the NFC, 302 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 4: what the Rams did to the Panthers and really what 303 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 4: the Niners did to the Philadelphia Egos. Plus a look 304 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 4: at the AFC playoff picture with wins by the Bills, 305 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 4: Texans and the New England Patriots. I almost forgot the 306 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 4: Patriots I had to go through the schedule in my head. 307 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 4: If you can tell, it's all coming up next. He's 308 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 4: Ian Roddy, that's Mike Carmen. It's all next here, and 309 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 4: I want your flegs all right, Patriots fans, don't be mad. 310 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 4: It's not that you forget a bull. It's just the 311 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 4: performance put forth by the Chargers on that Sunday night 312 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 4: was maybe easy to forget. But nevertheless, Patriots move on. 313 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 4: We'll get to the AFC in a little bit. Props 314 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 4: to the Panthers, you know, for playing the game that 315 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 4: they did, and maybe we shouldn't have been shocked considering 316 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 4: that they beat the Rams. They were able to get 317 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford to turn the football over again, Mike, any 318 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 4: concerns with the Ram or is this just maybe the 319 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 4: matchup that they have with Carolina ends up putting them 320 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 4: in you know, good football games, competitive football games. But 321 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford and Ams will be fine. How do you 322 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 4: come out on a win over Carolina? 323 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 5: Well, kind of an odd thing that you gave up 324 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 5: thirty points to Carolina twice because they certainly were not 325 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 5: a juggernaut. Now you've got these seeds of malcontentedness, Rico 326 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 5: Dowdell complaining about his role in the post game, talking 327 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 5: about his future and whatever else. So you've got that 328 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 5: now hanging in the balance for twenty six. But for 329 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 5: the Rams, I mean, you have to be worried about 330 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 5: their secondary gettable and as much as we can extol 331 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 5: the virtues of that front when they get home, well 332 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 5: when they don't, they're exposed. Right, they're not good on 333 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 5: the edges, and in a matchup against Chicago, which we'll 334 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 5: review in preview in earnest here, that's problematic. They also 335 00:16:54,960 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 5: the special teams has been suspect all season long, kicking, punting, 336 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 5: in return game. It's all been compromised at different points 337 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 5: to where they actually fired their coordinator a couple of 338 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 5: weeks ago. So Matthew Stafford's got everything on his back. 339 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 5: I mean, the play of the game for me, out 340 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 5: of all of this, you know, I love the past 341 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 5: to Parkinson, that was fantastic was when Puka and Nakua 342 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 5: realized that Stafford threw a duck and played defensive back. 343 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 5: Yeah right, I mean, for all the catches, for all 344 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 5: the heroics everywhere else, like that was the best play 345 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 5: of the game because it ended up saving a turnover 346 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 5: and it ended in a touchdown drive. But yeah, there 347 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 5: there are certainly some concerns rolling up good great on 348 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 5: the Panthers that they put up such a fight because 349 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 5: I got tired of the they shouldn't be hosting a 350 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 5: game and how dare you? It's like, until you abolish 351 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 5: the division, shut up, I'm out, I'm you know, you 352 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 5: get your you get your game, go in and win 353 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 5: and go from there. It's unfortunate that you had three 354 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 5: teams with double digit wins get into the three teams 355 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 5: standing with the Bears here in the NFZ. But you 356 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 5: know that offense is going to put up points. You're 357 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 5: not stopping them. It's like, can you win a shootout? 358 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 4: Well, I got bad news. You're never going to get 359 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 4: me to shut up about it because it's dumb. They 360 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 4: should just get in the playoffs. That's fine, but for 361 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 4: them to be able to host a playoff game, and 362 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 4: I mean, the home field advantage definitely helped them out 363 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 4: in this contest. But mand I would have hated to 364 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 4: have seen a wild card weekend. That's that's the other 365 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 4: thing about it. I think when you talk about this 366 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 4: conversation see ye told you weren't going to get me 367 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 4: a shut up about it. 368 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: I just I can't stand. I just. 369 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 4: Imagine if the Panthers won, and then look at the 370 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 4: weekend that we have, Like we also say like it 371 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 4: is a TV show and not that we're trying to 372 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 4: funnel certain teams to the super Bowl, But do we 373 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 4: really want an eight to nineteen to have an advantage 374 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 4: to maybe actually win a game? And then I have 375 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 4: to play the next weekend And people always bring the 376 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 4: Seahawks up of twenty ten to me, and I go, 377 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 4: they trust me, I get it. These Saints got absolutely hosed. 378 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 4: They absolutely did in that scenario. I just don't think 379 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 4: it's the best thing for I don't think it's the 380 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 4: best thing for the National Football League as a whole. 381 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 4: I don't mind them getting into the playoffs. I have 382 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 4: no problem with that. If you wanted to say they 383 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 4: had one home game and then like their seed falls 384 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 4: differently after the fact or whatever, that's fine. I could 385 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 4: take that compromise. But to think that Carolina like could 386 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 4: have gone on a run and then they just would 387 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 4: have hosted all these ten win teams depending on you know, 388 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 4: what happened in the bracket to me would have been crazy. 389 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: So but it's like beating a dead horse. 390 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 5: Well, but that's just it until they decide to scrap 391 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 5: it's it's an argument that's gonna pop up. I don't 392 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 5: even know how many these circumstances we see on a 393 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 5: regular basically. I mean, certainly got teams creeping in at 394 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 5: five hundred or just above. It was the unfortunate circumstance 395 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 5: this year where you had three teams that are double 396 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 5: digit wins by for the number one seed that end 397 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 5: up in that road. 398 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, and if there's a way because of those circumstances 399 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 4: you can work around it, I think that the NFL 400 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 4: should should look into it. But the ownership and Mike, 401 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 4: it just goes back to the fact too. And we 402 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 4: talk about scheduling, you know, and they put so much 403 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 4: onus on the division, and that's how much value is 404 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 4: on the division and then your division games in Week 405 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 4: eighteen and certain divisions don't mean a lot. The NFC 406 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 4: sut they did, but. 407 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 5: It also says that you know, when you have a 408 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 5: division that's bad and nobody gets the benefit of that 409 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 5: just because in that cycle, like all four of those 410 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 5: owners have to say we have no chance, sure, because 411 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 5: we're battling and we're five hundred teams and I don't know, 412 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 5: like this is where the business side of it well 413 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 5: trump logic. 414 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 415 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 4: I think the owners look at it as I'd rather 416 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 4: be three teams than thirteen others, you know, and they're like, Okay, 417 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 4: that's easier, We'll do that deal. 418 00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: Deal. 419 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 5: You know, it's not a bad way to go. I 420 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 5: kind of like that math myself if I were the owner. 421 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, because that's truly what it is. 422 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 4: So then that may not be fair, but it may 423 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 4: be a better path for them, quite the path for 424 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 4: the forty nine ers. I thought the Eagles had something 425 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 4: on their last drive, then they decided to run four 426 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 4: straight passing plays from the twenty one yard line with 427 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 4: three timeouts in a minute left. It's been my biggest 428 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 4: gripe when Saquon Barkley was obviously your workload throughout that 429 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 4: game with the twenty six carries, but the Niners end 430 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 4: up ninering. Christian McCaffrey two touched on receptions, one of 431 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 4: those thrown by Juwan Jennings, and now San Francisco bruised 432 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 4: and battered without George Kittle advanced to face the Seahawks 433 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 4: on Saturday night. 434 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, this was an interesting one to watch, right Obviously, 435 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 5: Barkley running the ball well to your point, Dan, the 436 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 5: fact that it's taken out of his gut, it's like 437 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 5: goes back to Baltimore a few weeks ago, like when 438 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 5: Derek Henry didn't see the ball for thirteen minutes to 439 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 5: close out a game. It's like, this is the thing 440 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 5: that's working your wide receivers. Clearly something's up. Aj Brown 441 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 5: a couple of drops, Barkley had to drop himself and 442 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 5: nothing's connecting. You have the opportunity to run this down 443 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 5: the defense. We've watched San Francisco all year long. They 444 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 5: managed through duct tape and bandages and whatever else because 445 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 5: they don't have their big guys in Warner and Bosa. 446 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 5: But they make it through. And then you call this 447 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 5: kind of game, so it's you know, your coordinator probably 448 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 5: gets fired, but it's won for the forty nine ers. 449 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 5: And then that Jennings pass was beautiful. It's a better 450 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 5: throw than half the quarterbacks in the league make anymore, right, Right, 451 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 5: And I know he was you know, recruited and all 452 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 5: of that going back, but Christian McCaffrey showing his worth 453 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 5: once again. And how about Kyle Eustcheck the fact that 454 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 5: they were saying on the broadcast how he was always 455 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 5: clamoring that he wanted to be a bigger part and 456 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 5: then Kittle goes down and he gives you half a field. 457 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 6: It's like, I don't know. 458 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 5: Why you wouldn't use him as the juggernaut early in 459 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 5: a game and let him run through people. 460 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see on who steps 461 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 4: up and how they step up. But because they're just it, 462 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 4: at some point it becomes the numbers game on on 463 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 4: who you can use. For San Francisco and with Philadelphia, 464 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 4: you have all the all of these weapons and you 465 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 4: really couldn't use any of them for a variety of reasons. 466 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 4: Whether it was too low, whether it was Jalen Hurts, 467 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 4: whether it's Aj Brown dropping a pass right across the middle. 468 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 4: Like there's a reason why Jalen Hurts threw into triple 469 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 4: coverage on fourth down and ten or fourth down and 470 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 4: eleven on that last drive, It's because it was to 471 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 4: Dallas Goddard. 472 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: Yeah it was, you know, so like there's something to that. 473 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 4: He wasn't by no means was he even open but 474 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 4: that's who he trusted him, that's who he went to, 475 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 4: and it ended up being the bigger problem of it all. 476 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 4: I'm curious to see what the Eagles look like. You 477 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 4: have to think another offensive coordinator change set up in 478 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 4: the offseason, but it's if there's more than that with 479 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 4: aj Brown not gonna be. 480 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be with Jalen Hurts. 481 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 4: But curious to see what the twenty twenty sixth version 482 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 4: of the Eagles looks like compared to what we had 483 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 4: this past year. 484 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 5: It was funny and watching this workout. First off, congratulations 485 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 5: to DeMarcus Robinson. You win the prize because we all 486 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 5: wondered who's stepping up and becoming an option for you here, 487 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 5: particularly as after Kittle's departure. But Robinson right off the 488 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 5: jump that you know, catch and zig zag move all 489 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 5: the way down the field. It's just amazing. But for Philadelphia, 490 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 5: you mentioned that that pass to Goddard, I don't, I 491 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 5: don't know that that's really been used as like normally 492 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 5: that becomes the y Z he throwing into triple cover 493 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 5: that was so far down the list. Yeah, it hurts 494 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 5: right like, I don't that was not a all right, well, 495 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 5: that's just a terrible decision by him. No, No, it's 496 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 5: about AJ Brown's attitude and drops. It's about the play 497 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 5: calling and the vanilla. That's about going away from Barkley 498 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 5: all of that. Trump's the oh yeah he threw it. 499 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 5: There's no chance at hell, Dallas Goddard. I mean, if 500 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 5: he'd come down with that ball, that's the stuff of 501 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 5: legend right there. 502 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 6: But yeah, it's just an odd. 503 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 5: Season, right because you would have thought Barkley early this 504 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 5: season that maybe they'd be judicious coming off a huge 505 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 5: workload year. But it was clear down the stretch that 506 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 5: while he wasn't back to one hundred percent the dominant 507 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 5: force he was a year ago, the offensive line certainly 508 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 5: has had it's in injuries and changes that they go 509 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 5: away from it entirely down the stretch, just bewildering. 510 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 7: Or AJ Brown are going to be gone by next 511 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 7: season or they both say. 512 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 4: I think Brown can be gone. I don't think that 513 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 4: Sirianni will be. 514 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 7: Well, we got another Brown blow up on the sideline 515 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 7: there with Sirianni. 516 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he and I think I think it was 517 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 4: Jordanilatta were the ones that were dinged up and they're 518 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 4: trying to get off the field, and so he was 519 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 4: yelling at him for that. 520 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 7: That was the exchange, and then he yelled back. It's 521 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 7: like a pretty valid reason to be yelling at him for. 522 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 4: I feel like, I just don't know how you could 523 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 4: dismiss Sirianni despite I think a lot of us being 524 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 4: through it. But yet at least have to give him 525 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 4: the benefit of the doubt to hire another offensive coordinator, 526 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 4: which I think they'll be their nineteenth to nineteen seasons. 527 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it sure feels like that. 528 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 7: Well, looking across the league though, and look at all 529 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 7: the guys getting fired. Harbaugh immediately teams want him interview him, 530 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 7: even Mike McDaniel. Teams immediately interview him. If Sirianni got 531 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 7: fired tomorrow, I'm not sure he would get an interview. 532 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: I think he'd get an interview. 533 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, the Titans are interviewing everybody. 534 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 5: I Nan and I are scheduled that they put it 535 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 5: back on Friday. 536 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 7: Well, if he didn't get one from the Titans, that's 537 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 7: that's the ultimate indictment, because they're just like, oh, can 538 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 7: you breathe, here's an interview. 539 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 4: But Ian, don't you think that Sirianni take personal thoughts 540 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 4: because I'm not a fan of his either. 541 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: He hired Kellen. 542 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 4: Moore, and Kellen Moore comes in and they go and 543 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 4: they win the Super Bowl last year. 544 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 7: You know, with him, Kellen Moore had had OC jobs 545 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 7: in multiple other places before that, though, and he was 546 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 7: already seen as like an up and coming offensive mind. Again, 547 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 7: I don't know if it was Sirianni you hired him, 548 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 7: like I feel like Jeffrey Howie Roseman these guys. Same 549 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 7: with Vic Fangio, Like, I don't know if it was Siriani. 550 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 7: I think he's just being being told, like here you 551 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 7: go and that do what you can with it. 552 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 4: But they've had to cycle, they've lost their offensive coordinator 553 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 4: or had to make a change every season. You know, 554 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 4: Stichan leaves after Super Bowl fifty seven. They're bringing Brian Johnson, 555 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 4: he doesn't work out. They're bringing Kellen Moore, he works out, 556 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 4: he gets a head coaching job. So then you're bringing 557 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 4: Kevin Patullo. He doesn't work out. Now you've got to 558 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 4: figure it out again. Like, I think that he's at 559 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 4: least earned the right to be able to hire another one, 560 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 4: especially with the Super Bowl win. 561 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 7: Sure. I mean I'm not firing him right now. I'm 562 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 7: just more making the comment that if he were to 563 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 7: be fired right now, I'm not convinced that he would 564 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 7: be a shoe in for another at least even an interview. 565 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 7: But I see what you're saying. 566 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 6: For sure, Well, I mean you're gonna kick the tires 567 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 6: I think. 568 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 5: I mean, you've had it off success and nowadays, I 569 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 5: mean very few of these are like the College Coast, Hey, 570 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 5: we want that guy. Seems like everybody's getting in for 571 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 5: at least to look see, especially if you had success, 572 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 5: I mean you won with a bunch of seemingly malcontented 573 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 5: folks up and down. You know your roster that counts 574 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 5: for something. 575 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would I would think so as well. And 576 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 4: if for he Morris is interviewing. 577 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 7: For jobs, well. 578 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 4: Nick siriann well, I don't know about that, but Nick 579 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 4: Sirianni would get he you would be if any team 580 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 4: that had a vacancy would have to talk to Nick Sirianni, 581 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 4: you would have to. 582 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. 583 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 7: I mean, I get what you're saying. I just wouldn't. 584 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: He has a Super Bowl ring ian I know. 585 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 7: So as Doug Peterson, like there's plenty of coaches. 586 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 4: Peterson then got the I mean Doug Peterson then got 587 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 4: the job, and how'd that work out? 588 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: So it didn't. 589 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 4: But I don't think that that's in for him to 590 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,479 Speaker 4: not look at the people that are getting interviews. As 591 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 4: Mike said, we're up on Friday in Nashville, so like 592 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 4: like we're up next. Mike Ian's crazy by saying Nick 593 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 4: Sirianni wouldnt get an interviewed. 594 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 5: I think he's gonna get Does he end up with 595 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 5: a job in the cycle, Maybe not, But I think 596 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 5: you've got enough success. 597 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 6: And again, you know when we're talking, we've got a short. 598 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 5: List of guys that are still coaching in this game 599 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 5: that have Super Bowl rings right that to finish the job, 600 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 5: you at least are bringing them in for a conversation 601 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 5: because there's gonna be some practices there that you were 602 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 5: able to operate with a lot of chaos in a 603 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 5: very loud town. So I think that gets you in 604 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 5: the door whether it keeps you and you can sell 605 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 5: them that with the roster as constructed or through one 606 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 5: or two larger dynamic moves, you can get them to 607 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 5: the winner circle. Well, that's that's the cell job, Sirianne 608 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 5: would have to do. 609 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 6: But I don't know. 610 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 5: We got get a guy who had one good year, 611 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 5: one half of a good year Jacksonville, who's getting interviewed. 612 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 5: Now it's Cleveland, so we laugh at it because you 613 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 5: know it's Cleveland. But but the point being, you're you're 614 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 5: bringing in guys that have done almost nothing for interviews. 615 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, because Jason. 616 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 5: Right, you know, like might be the next hot thing, 617 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 5: versus a guy who's demonstrated. 618 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 6: Like Peterson goes to Jacksonville. Jacksonville. 619 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 5: I mean, we up until Duvall and what Liam Cohen's 620 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 5: doing this year. I mean, there's been a lot of 621 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 5: highly decorated guys that have walked through that door and failed. 622 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 6: Herban Meyer came in there, he didn't last a year. 623 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 7: I mean, I guess if you phrase it as like, yeah, 624 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 7: you're bringing them in for a conversation, and like, I guess, 625 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 7: and that's all it is. Sure, I mean, I guess 626 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 7: I guess there. I'm more open to that, but when 627 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 7: it comes to really being a serious candidate and getting 628 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 7: multiple interviews, and again it depends how he interviews in 629 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 7: that first conversation. 630 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 4: But I am I am shocked by this intake like 631 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 4: I am like, like I am blown away that he 632 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 4: wouldn't even interview Nick Sirianni. That is that takes some 633 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 4: oomph understand. 634 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 7: That it's Nick Sirianni. Dan, come on, well you can 635 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 7: stand on the table for like John harboff I was 636 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 7: saying about him, it's. 637 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 4: The same number of rings. They have the same number 638 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 4: of rings. Sirianni's been to more super Bowls. Like, but 639 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 4: it's it's crazy, but it's true. 640 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: We don't have to like him. 641 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 6: But no, but that's the thing. 642 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: Give him the respect. 643 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 5: It becomes that thing of is this the gig? Because 644 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 5: I like, if we take the guy in and he 645 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 5: decid you don't like the guy, you chirp it back 646 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 5: at fans or whatever, and you don't want that for 647 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 5: your organization. You decided, you know the sanctity of the job. Right, 648 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 5: because some folks are complaining about Ben Jhonson yelling blank 649 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 5: the packers, like our guys would never do that' like 650 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 5: it's twenty twenty six, right, we don't like nothing operates 651 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 5: by the same rules it did. It was that argument 652 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 5: you know about the woman with talking to Liam Cohen 653 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 5: and Jacksonville. 654 00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 6: Right, nothing's the same as it was forty fifty years ago. 655 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 5: The rules of engagement on a lot of this coach 656 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 5: decorum and how they go through. They're not wearing suits 657 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 5: and fedoras on the sidelines either, right, I mean, it's 658 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 5: just a completely different time. 659 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 660 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 5: And because a guy uses some foul language and gets 661 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 5: a little a little out of sorts of times gets 662 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 5: folks mad. I don't know, I'd have to kick the tires. 663 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 6: I might. 664 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 5: I might come to the same conclusion after five minutes, 665 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 5: And I don't disagree that that would be the case. 666 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 5: But trying to You're trying to bring in the best qualified, right, 667 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 5: and sometimes you don't like the guy who's best qualified, 668 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 5: but you realize that that's what you need for your organization. 669 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, there are people in Philadelphia that will they'll want 670 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 4: to fire anybody but a Sirianni fans like, there's no 671 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 4: doubt about that. But who would you rather have coaching 672 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 4: the Jets? Aaron Glenn and Nick Sirianni. 673 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 6: You can't punt he gave you in either. 674 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: Or I think that's a perfect way to end it. 675 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 7: Do I want ass or do I want. 676 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 6: He went keep it clean? 677 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 4: This is a family program here on I want your flex. 678 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 4: Maybe we'll have to bleep Ian out. 679 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: We'll have to We'll have to see. 680 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 4: Just like the Niners did over Nick Sirianni and the Eagles, 681 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 4: we will take a time out. That is Ian Roddy. 682 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 4: Find them at Ian Roddy Underscore. Find my karmenat Swollen Dome. 683 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 4: You could find me at Dan Bayern fox We will 684 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 4: get to the a f C playoff picture and while 685 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 4: they all transpired in the American Football Conference coming up 686 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 4: next here on I want your flex. All right, let's 687 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 4: get to the a f C. And just to show 688 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 4: New England fans, I didn't forget about them. It was 689 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 4: just kind of a forgetful game for all the competitive 690 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 4: contests we had leading up to it. Patriots moving on 691 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 4: against the Chargers. Justin Herbert, poor guy, that's all, just yeah, 692 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 4: just poor guy can't catch a break unless it was 693 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 4: a broken bone. And the Chargers end up limping out 694 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 4: of Foxborough losing it to New England. As the Patriots 695 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 4: get that sixteen to three victory. On the Chargers side 696 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 4: of things, that think we all know what's going on. 697 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: You don't have your two tackles. 698 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 4: Their interior offensive line isn't that good have dealt with 699 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 4: running back injuries throughout the year, and even though you 700 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 4: were able to navigate him, I think ultimately was the 701 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 4: most surprising thing is if Justin Herbert actually had time, 702 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 4: his receivers weren't getting open, and I think we kind 703 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,439 Speaker 4: of know who his receivers are now. They're just they 704 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 4: still are searching for that number one guy. And for 705 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 4: as great as Quinton Johnston was in coming back from 706 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 4: his potential bust label to now being a service, serviceable 707 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 4: wide receiver, he's not a number one. Led mccackey can 708 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 4: have great success in the National Football League, but right 709 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 4: now they can't separate from anybody. And Keenan Allen, for 710 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 4: as great as he is, he's just going to make 711 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 4: the catches and not separate from anyone else. 712 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: So Chargers have some growing to do. Patriots end up 713 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: moving on with the win. 714 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, Keenan Allen drawing a lot of fire for some 715 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 5: of his nonchalants in terms of getting on and off 716 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 5: the field drop passes. Lad McConkie in his post game 717 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 5: and exit kind of talking about his role and how 718 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 5: unsatisfied he was and pretty salty because a lot of 719 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 5: those targets go to who Keenan Allen. They brought him 720 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 5: back and it changed his role and we had a 721 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 5: very you know, fantasy owners felt screwed at the outset, 722 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 5: like they got sold to Bill Goods coming off of 723 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 5: last year, and I can understand that frustration. There were 724 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 5: a couple of games where McConkie became a number one again, 725 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 5: but overall a horribly inconsistent run. You talk about the 726 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 5: offensive line, you got Mackai Becton going after Greg Roman 727 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 5: about what they were was like, what so all sorts 728 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 5: of ex linemen coming in going It's not like you're 729 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 5: running this guy's offense like It's fairly straightforward. And for Herbert, yeah, 730 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 5: he did have opportunities. There's no separation, and eventually you 731 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 5: had coverage sacks. Not to say that they were any 732 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 5: good without Alt and without Slater, and certainly what I 733 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 5: think with Alt, I saw the stat that they were 734 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 5: like mid middle tier offensive line in the Just bat 735 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 5: If you do the rankings and this is all which 736 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 5: one you you know, if you want to hold that 737 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 5: as gospel, but it just proves the point of one 738 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 5: guy can at least elevate you. It's not the NBA 739 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 5: where one player elevates you to potential greatness, but you're 740 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 5: you're serviceable, right, because responsibilities change and you can at 741 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 5: least say, all right, we've got that part covered. With 742 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 5: alt being gone, they go to the bottom rankings, bottom 743 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,439 Speaker 5: three or thereabouts. And Herbert was skittish. When he did 744 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 5: have time to throw. He short armed a bunch of balls, 745 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 5: He missed a bunch of opportunity, missed mconkey on on 746 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,280 Speaker 5: a clear uh open path towards the end zone. Whatever 747 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 5: the hell happened with Hampton, it left them exposed without 748 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 5: another running runner next to Vadell, who had been who 749 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 5: is terribly inconsistent again, you know, some to the offensive line, 750 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 5: but he doesn't see and feel well on a consistent 751 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 5: basis to where there's an opening to extend to play. 752 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 6: And so for Herbert, it just it felt. 753 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 5: Like, and I think this will come up again as 754 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 5: we go through the rest of the FC, it just 755 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 5: felt like you regressed back to that rookie year where 756 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 5: everything was really fast again. 757 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that. 758 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 4: I can't argue that we know that the change is 759 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 4: going to be Greg Roman. I at some point or 760 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 4: another that's going to end up being the change. But 761 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 4: I think that Lad McConkey has gripes, and you're right, 762 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 4: and there is going to be a point where Herbert 763 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 4: does have to put up her shut up. I just 764 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 4: don't know how you can watch that performance and be like, see, 765 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 4: Herbert's not the guy, right, you know, because it looks 766 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 4: a lot like what we've seen in the past. And 767 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 4: you're right about the offensive line, because not only when 768 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 4: Slater went out, they move Alt from the right to 769 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 4: the left side, and then they were fine until Alt 770 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,240 Speaker 4: got hurt and then and then you're down both tackles 771 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 4: and no one's able to play either side. 772 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: And it's just an absolute mess. 773 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 4: But Chargers will have to figure out what they're going 774 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,240 Speaker 4: to do offensively with whoever's going to be their offensive 775 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 4: coordinator Patriots and just quickly to touch on them, I mean, 776 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 4: ramondre Stevenson. I feel like they validate me in my 777 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 4: mid season fantasy take on the value of Ramondre Stevenson 778 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 4: even more and more now in the playoffs and when 779 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 4: you're looking to go to guys. It wasn't as much 780 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 4: Stefan Diggs as we would have thought, but Drake May's 781 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 4: legs get it done, and I for as great as 782 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 4: the other games are marquee wise. Texans Patriots may be 783 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 4: the best of the next of the four that we 784 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,240 Speaker 4: get on Sunday. 785 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 6: Oh, I'm excited for that one. 786 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 5: Over under is high at forty one and a half 787 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 5: as far as I see all, well, I mean you 788 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 5: look at the way, I mean big explosives, right, Jess 789 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 5: Mummers defense did all they could to keep them in 790 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 5: that game, and he'll go be a head coach wherever 791 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,879 Speaker 5: that's going to be, and they'll have to backfill that 792 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 5: spot as well. But Drake May making plays with his legs. 793 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 5: Stevenson with the big catch and run forty eight yards 794 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 5: was huge, and Hunter Henry that was the dagger for 795 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 5: most folks as he's an ex charger and all for 796 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 5: those that forget his early fantasy days. But they did 797 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 5: a pretty good job against the you know, defensively as 798 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 5: a hole in. Drake May at times you know, made 799 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 5: his mistakes and gave them opportunities to come and steal 800 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 5: the game. But when they needed it, he did it 801 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 5: with his legs, finishing what sixty six yards overall, including 802 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 5: a couple of big scrambles. 803 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 6: I can't wait for that matchup with Houston. That's fascinating. 804 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it should be really good. 805 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 4: Mopefully it's as good as Bill's Jaguars was, because that 806 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 4: was a heck of a game. Buffalo's run game shut down, 807 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 4: Josh Allen having two rushing touchdowns, but James Cook just 808 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 4: couldn't get it going, and the quarterback sneak on the 809 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 4: tush push however you want to put it in on 810 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 4: the fourth down for all the Eagles, right toush pushes. 811 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 4: That may have been the most significant one we've had 812 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 4: in the NFL so far, because, I mean, the Bills 813 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 4: were a stuff away from losing the game and then 814 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 4: it sets up their game winning touchdown. But I was 815 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 4: impressed with the Bills resiliency and I'm also just impressed 816 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 4: with the way like Brandon Cooks just signs late in 817 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 4: the season ends up fitting in. I don't know if 818 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 4: he's going to be the complete answer for Buffalo, but 819 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 4: for a team that has been looking for somebody to 820 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 4: step up in the wide receiver spot, Brandon Cooks has 821 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 4: been has been great for Buffalo, and I expected to 822 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 4: have have a role when they go to Denver on 823 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 4: Saturday afternoon. 824 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, how big was that sliding catch? Right? The thirty 825 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 6: six yards. 826 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, Gabe Davis done for the for the year, the 827 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 5: ACL they were hoping to you know, it's all duct 828 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 5: tape and band aids, like we've talked about it all year. 829 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 5: It's Cook and Allen and what you can find, I mean, 830 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 5: Kluse Shakers A nice is that twelve catches eighty two 831 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 5: yards those Shanes, right, I. 832 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 6: Mean twelve for twelve so rating. 833 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 5: But you know, Kean Coleman flashed briefly in just as 834 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,720 Speaker 5: fast as he came on with that thirty six yarder. 835 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 5: He was never heard from again. Dawson, Knox and Kincaid 836 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 5: did have the touchdown, but quiet for much of the day. 837 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 5: That was one where I had the audio accompany with 838 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 5: me on my drive back from Boys, you guys, and 839 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 5: during the radio right, it's like, why are they not 840 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 5: throwing you the tight ends? 841 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 6: Where are the tight ends? 842 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: And all this? 843 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 6: And then you know he finally gets the touch out 844 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 6: that there it is, well, finally yet there. 845 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 5: But you know for Jacksonville, you know, Trevor Lawrence giveth 846 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 5: he taketh away like he's he made huge strides down 847 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 5: the stretch, a couple of bad balls, Parker Washington coming 848 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,280 Speaker 5: up huge and Brian Thomas. We actually had a sighting, 849 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 5: so that was great. And Etn gives you what nearly 850 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty total yards of offense. I mean, 851 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,959 Speaker 5: you got everything you could have asked out of that side. 852 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 6: I think of the ball. 853 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 4: I just was that was two good football teams playing 854 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 4: in a good football game. And you know, Lawrence's numbers 855 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 4: aren't aren't aren't great, but that's sometimes what happens. And 856 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 4: they they Jacksonville still made plays. The Buffalo defense it's 857 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 4: been better as of late, still was giving up some 858 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 4: of those points, Travis Etn getting into the end zone 859 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 4: of the reception. It was just a good football game 860 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 4: on Sunday, and Buffalo is able to survive. And if 861 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 4: they're going to be the team of destiny like I 862 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 4: think they are, what a perfect way to start finally 863 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 4: get a road win in Jacksonville and and now go 864 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 4: on the road to try to knock off the top 865 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 4: seed Denver Broncos. 866 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 5: Nineteen ninety two d nineteen ninety two, last that last 867 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:42,879 Speaker 5: road playoff win. 868 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 6: How insane is that that was? 869 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 4: And it said it was the AFC Championship. Was that 870 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 4: that was in Pittsburgh? I believe? Yeah, I thought that 871 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 4: they had won. And I remember, I'll. 872 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: Tell you what. 873 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 4: I remember when Jim Kelly and the Bills were trying 874 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 4: to get into the Super Bowl. You know, they lost 875 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 4: to Boomer Asia Sin and the Bengals in the playoffs 876 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 4: when Boomer and then went in Super Bowl twenty three. 877 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,879 Speaker 4: So I remember the build up with the Bills even 878 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 4: trying to get there. They lost the playoff game to Cleveland. 879 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 4: I think Cleveland beat them before the Drive game, Mike, 880 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 4: if my memory serves me correct, before Lway beats the 881 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 4: Browns in Cleveland. I think the Browns top Buffalo the 882 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 4: week prior to that. I think Ronnie Harmon had a 883 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 4: drop in that game that could have won it for Buffalo. 884 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 4: But anyway, the point being is it had been a 885 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,839 Speaker 4: long time, and that was nineteen ninety two and they 886 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 4: went on the road and that was the gosh, I 887 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 4: think that was the year. And now and watching all 888 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 4: those Bills documentaries where like nobody wanted them back, and 889 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 4: then they ended up winning again and going in but hey, road, 890 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,959 Speaker 4: when they'll take it, even if it's thirty four years later, 891 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 4: and now you're gonna have to win all of them 892 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 4: on the road because with the Chargers lost, there will 893 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 4: be no more games at Highmark Stadium. 894 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean FXT commemorative gloves Dan for the 895 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:04,399 Speaker 5: snow last year, I did buy a pin. 896 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,439 Speaker 4: I think I may have told you guys, the commemorative pin. 897 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 4: It's stayed in its wrapper a month and then my 898 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 4: son found it, and now I have no idea what 899 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 4: the pin is. The Rappers long gone, yes, but it's 900 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 4: somewhere on the I told him it was special, so 901 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 4: I know he knows where it is. It's just I 902 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 4: don't know where it is at this point. It may 903 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 4: be down by the TV box, but I'm just not 904 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,280 Speaker 4: quite sure yet. It will find it amongst the hundreds 905 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,240 Speaker 4: of dinosaurs that that are littered throughout the house. Speaking 906 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 4: of dinosaurs, Aaron Rodgers, maybe a terfect segue. 907 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: Sorry, had he. 908 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,919 Speaker 4: Have played his last game on Monday night against the 909 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 4: Houston Texans, And I know it's not the way that 910 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 4: he wanted to go out, but very rarely do these end. Well, 911 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 4: his last pass maybe in the NFL, could be a 912 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 4: pick six. I'm gonna just look on the bright side. 913 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 4: How about what he marks? How about that Texans defense 914 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,720 Speaker 4: stepping up? And again I love that game against New England. 915 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 4: But Houston's Houston's not perfect, but when you have the 916 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 4: defensive effort in your if you're running the football like that. 917 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 4: We'll have to see what happens with Nico Collins and 918 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 4: that concussion that he suffered on Monday night and what 919 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 4: his status could be against New England. They play Sunday, 920 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,359 Speaker 4: so that's a good thing. The NFL wouldn't put him 921 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 4: on Saturday after playing on Monday, but that concussion and 922 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 4: Nico Collins didn't look good. But other than that, pretty 923 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 4: good night for the Texans. Supported on late. 924 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 5: Run for one hundred and sixty four. You get ten 925 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 5: carries also for Nick Chubb in the mix. Look it 926 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 5: helped to offset I don't know what was going on 927 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 5: with Andrews and Stroud with the exchanges all night long. 928 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,839 Speaker 5: Just got a fumbling, some bad decisions and Stroud struggled, 929 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 5: but ultimately they're able to overcome all of those things. 930 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 5: You get a big game from Christian Kirk hero of 931 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 5: yesters through with an eight catch and he distributed the 932 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 5: ball around. But Woody Marx was fantastic. He was a 933 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 5: guy we talked a lot on the Fantasy UH week 934 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 5: to week. You know what kind of touch count and 935 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 5: when Nick Chubb was available, what would that do? 936 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 6: Well? Here, it became the all right, we're ahead, let 937 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 6: to grind down the clock. 938 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,399 Speaker 5: Uh. The fact that they were throwing the ball at all. 939 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 5: I mean there was one point where they were they 940 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 5: were gonna be able to put up when it was 941 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,879 Speaker 5: still you know, one point game. Uh, you can put 942 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 5: up points, and instead he throws the interception, Like why 943 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 5: did you not run there? 944 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: Like? 945 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 5: And again that's the you know, the tinfoil hat and 946 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 5: lunaty of it of Like, I'd love the sequencing of 947 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 5: what you were trying to build there because you didn't 948 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 5: need to throw it. 949 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 6: And but maybe you're trying to get him some confidence. 950 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 6: I don't know. 951 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 5: But defensively, just absolutely tortured Aaron Rodgers all night. I 952 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 5: still think the first defensive touchdown should have been a 953 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 5: penalty and that Pittsburgh should have still had the ball 954 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 5: because of the contact with the helmet. But sure it 955 00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,359 Speaker 5: goes the other way. Yeah, I mean he opened hands 956 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 5: slapped him. I used the John Stossel getting hit by 957 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 5: doctor d David Schultz on twenty twenty. 958 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 6: All those years ago. 959 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:11,280 Speaker 5: It's like we see quarterbacks draw flags for far less 960 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 5: on a week tw week basis, he gets clocked in 961 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:16,919 Speaker 5: the head starts to fall. 962 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 1: Here's the question. He didn't have any idea what Mike 963 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: Carmen is talking about? No, I have no No, I 964 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 1: didn't think. I didn't think. 965 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 6: So it's a famous go ahead dude. 966 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 967 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 4: John Stossel is this reporter for twenty twenty and he's 968 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 4: kind of because he's behind the the would you say, 969 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 4: like the persona of I'm a reporter, you can't touch 970 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:41,799 Speaker 4: me and I've got the mic at a camera, so 971 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:42,839 Speaker 4: I'm going to say what I want? 972 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, sort of deal. 973 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, in essence and uh And who 974 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 4: was it that he went up to that smacked him 975 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 4: in the face. 976 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, so they were doing the wrestling and kind of 977 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 5: going behind the scenes. That's right, uws, that's exploding and 978 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,320 Speaker 5: it's a guy named doctor d David. 979 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,799 Speaker 7: I do know what this is. I actually saw this 980 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 7: my Twitter feed like today, was there like there was 981 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 7: the was was this like, well that anniversary just happened something. 982 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 7: I think it was a wrestler behind the scenes slapped 983 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 7: him in the ear and he sued for like millions 984 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 7: of dollars or something. 985 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 6: He was talking about how well it's all fake. 986 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 1: Like you. 987 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 5: Because they're going to show you the metal hip, the bruises, 988 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 5: the broken bones, whatever. And in this case, he did 989 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 5: an open hand slap upside the head like you would 990 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 5: do in a match, except it ruptured an ear drum, 991 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 5: and well, that's pretty real and that. 992 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 6: But he's laying on the ground. 993 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 2: You know. 994 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 5: It's like when Richard Belzer, who was on Law and 995 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 5: Order SVU, had a talk show way back in the 996 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 5: day and hul Cogan put him in a sleeperhole and 997 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 5: actually put him out and he slipped and he hit 998 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 5: his head on the ground. So like it, it's happened 999 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 5: multiple times. But in this case that's like Aaron Rodgers 1000 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 5: got head slapped like an old school swim move, like 1001 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 5: we would see Deacon Jones and those guys back in 1002 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 5: the day. Dan where we're listening to Jeff Assenda tell 1003 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 5: us all about the NFL films, but back then. 1004 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 6: It was legal. Here, they usually gets you a fifteen yard. 1005 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,280 Speaker 5: Penalty and in this case it gives you a Houston 1006 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 5: defensive score which put the game out of reach. And 1007 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 5: then we saw the chaos and two. But they've got 1008 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 5: a lot of questions answering Pittsburgh. 1009 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think one of the questions sure seems 1010 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 4: to be is Aaron Rodgers coming back. No, I don't, 1011 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 4: I know Pittsburgh wanted him back. That's you maxed out 1012 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 4: like in I think that game was a perfect way 1013 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 4: to show like you're going up against what is a 1014 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 4: really good, maybe the best defense in the National Football League, 1015 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,760 Speaker 4: and an offense that also has some limitations. Their defense 1016 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 4: kept them in that game. Yea for those three quarters. 1017 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,720 Speaker 4: I mean it's seven to six going into the fourth quarter, 1018 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,279 Speaker 4: that's all you can ask. It's just like Green Bay 1019 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 4: in the second half against the Bears. You know they 1020 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 4: scored the one touchdowns, Like, just give us a little 1021 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 4: bit more. That's what they needed to win. Pittsburgh just 1022 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 4: needed a little bit more. Maybe it doesn't turn into 1023 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 4: the thirty to sixth route if you just end up 1024 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,799 Speaker 4: taking a lead at some point and they couldn't do it. 1025 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,879 Speaker 4: I thought that Rogers would have something to play for 1026 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 4: that maybe in Minnesota, that that cast of characters, But 1027 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 4: just right now, the immediacy of it and seeing like 1028 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,800 Speaker 4: the grind of what they had to go through and 1029 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 4: what they could produce just doesn't seem like it would 1030 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 4: be in the cards for him to return next season. 1031 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, that rosters has got all the questions to go 1032 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,319 Speaker 5: along with it, though, right say nothing of the Mike 1033 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 5: Tomlin thing that they'll rage on short term. Rogers was 1034 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 5: very quick to point out, I love Mike t The 1035 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 5: fact that we're talking about him potentially being fired is 1036 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 5: just dumb. Okay, Yeah, but like DK Metcalf, I mean, 1037 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,720 Speaker 5: you know him and his act from Seattle, Dan very well, 1038 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 5: he's got a long term contract. Okay, so he's your one. 1039 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 5: Austin is now and again does he rise up to 1040 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 5: where he's number two? 1041 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 6: Friar move? 1042 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,399 Speaker 5: I mean you signed Adam Feelin to trying to put 1043 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 5: up In and Marcus Valdez scandaling. Right, that's where you 1044 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 5: were with the roster, and you look at their twenty 1045 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 5: twenty six cap space. Their first five players are all 1046 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,400 Speaker 5: defenders that are old. 1047 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:25,760 Speaker 4: Sure, and TJ Watch has got his money. Like, yeah, 1048 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 4: it doesn't. The future does not look bright for the Steelers. 1049 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 4: But to your point in Aaron Rodgers, it's not Mike 1050 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 4: Tomlin's fault. But I don't know why Aaron Rodgers would 1051 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,280 Speaker 4: want to go back to that next season. 1052 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 1: So here we are. We've got eight teams left. 1053 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 4: Bill's Broncos early game on Saturday, although it's early four 1054 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,400 Speaker 4: thirty Eastern timekick, Seahawks home to the Niners eight o'clock 1055 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,920 Speaker 4: Eastern timekick, and then you've got the Patriots home to 1056 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,359 Speaker 4: the Texans three o'clock Eastern time on Sunday, followed at 1057 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,879 Speaker 4: six thirty Eastern time by the Rams against the Bay 1058 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 4: I you know, my favorite game is the Seahawks. You 1059 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,439 Speaker 4: know Mike's favorite game is the Bears. Let's just ask 1060 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 4: the impartial party here, Ian Roddy, of the four games 1061 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,880 Speaker 4: that you look at this weekend, which one are you 1062 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 4: most excited to watch? 1063 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,919 Speaker 7: I'm looking through him right now. I think I'm most 1064 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 7: excited for that Texans Patriots one. And I know Mike 1065 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,480 Speaker 7: alluded to how good of a game that's going to 1066 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,799 Speaker 7: be earlier, But yeah, I don't know. 1067 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 6: Man. 1068 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,879 Speaker 7: That Texans defense, what we saw them do to Aaron Rodgers. 1069 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 4: That was me, Ian, that was me who loved that game. 1070 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,240 Speaker 4: Just so the record is straight, I did love Texts, 1071 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 4: not that Mike didn't. But I just want to say, 1072 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 4: you know, I did claim the Navy ball because it's 1073 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 4: Navy in red and white in whatever against Navy red 1074 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,560 Speaker 4: and white call. 1075 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 6: It, but I agree. I agree with Dan's assessment. A 1076 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 6: big game. 1077 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 7: Just how good that uh that that Texans defense is. 1078 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,720 Speaker 7: Like obviously they've been hailed as one of the best 1079 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,280 Speaker 7: or the best in the NFL over the past few weeks, 1080 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 7: if not the Broncos. So yeah, seeing them go up 1081 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 7: against Drake May, who's possibly the MVP, We'll see what 1082 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,719 Speaker 7: ends up happening. That's a clash of Titans right there. 1083 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm exciting. Yeah, yeah, I think it should be good. 1084 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 4: It's it's the best weekend of games, like historically, because 1085 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,400 Speaker 4: even the championship weekend, and like, okay, we only have 1086 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 4: two to have what we have in those four games, 1087 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,920 Speaker 4: it's gonna be magnificent. And then if you have a 1088 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 4: team minute like Mike does, or you have a team 1089 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 4: minute like I do, you're rooting for your team, but 1090 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,319 Speaker 4: depending on you know, when your team plays, you may 1091 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,920 Speaker 4: be having other rooting interests. I know, like you know, 1092 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 4: this past weekend, I'm looking at games and how it 1093 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 4: could affect the Seahawks and pulling for the Panthers to 1094 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 4: knock off the Rams, and it didn't happen, and whatnot. 1095 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,399 Speaker 4: But it just gets you involved and it's a great, 1096 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 4: great weekend of football. 1097 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 5: Three NFC West squad remain since none of us picked it, 1098 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,239 Speaker 5: but we have that Buffalo Denver game out there. Yeah, 1099 00:53:55,239 --> 00:54:00,840 Speaker 5: I thought delicious theater, right because Denver inconsistent offensively second 1100 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 5: half of the year, and we're seeing if Josh Allen 1101 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 5: could put the cape on. Like, I don't like the 1102 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 5: conversation that's been out there. Hey since and forgive me 1103 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 5: if you've you've heard this, I think I might have 1104 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,840 Speaker 5: actually tweeted it or yelled it at some point. But 1105 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 5: the the other night, I was flipping channels as I'm 1106 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,839 Speaker 5: you know, putting some notes together for my Sonday morning show, 1107 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 5: and on ESPN they had professional pillow fighting, like literally 1108 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 5: like six two athletes. 1109 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 7: Ye yes, will have the weirdest thing. 1110 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, so it was like weighted pillows and then if 1111 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,799 Speaker 5: you drop your pillow, the guy's got to step back 1112 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 5: for a second electry Like it was the weirdest damn 1113 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 5: thing I've ever seen. 1114 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 7: They're swinging them too exactly, They're trying to hurt each other. 1115 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1116 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, But the point is, like Josh Allen isn't engaging 1117 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:50,400 Speaker 5: in that competition with Lamar Jackson or Joe Burrow or 1118 00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes. 1119 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:51,799 Speaker 6: Or anything else. 1120 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,759 Speaker 5: He's got to navigate eleven men who want to take 1121 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,440 Speaker 5: his head off. So the hey, this is Josh Allen's opportunity, 1122 00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 5: It's like, what do you mean? It's like he's got 1123 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,319 Speaker 5: a foster that is far from perfect. We were going 1124 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 5: through it, right, Khalil Shakir is your leader, He's not 1125 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 5: your prototypical boundary X number one wide receiver, and you're 1126 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,800 Speaker 5: trying to cobble this together. Defense is good, not great. 1127 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 5: Denver's got a lot of things going and just go 1128 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,280 Speaker 5: on to these other AFC teams, right, they've got elite 1129 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 5: portions to them. But the conversation about Josh all it 1130 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 5: just keeps making me scratch my heads, like I like him. Yeah, 1131 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 5: and the windows you know eventually the age and you 1132 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 5: already see it with the foot he can't run the 1133 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 5: same way this time, although that tush push seemed to 1134 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,360 Speaker 5: work just fine. But it's just that narrative that's swirling 1135 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,280 Speaker 5: in the background as this game gets ready for this weekend, 1136 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,799 Speaker 5: is just one of the narratives in this playoff run 1137 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,279 Speaker 5: that just has me scratching my. 1138 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 4: Head I just I just think that they are the story. 1139 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,399 Speaker 4: Like I think that like we love we may love 1140 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 4: Texans and New England and what that game may be, 1141 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 4: but there's a group of people, and you can include 1142 00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 4: me in it. 1143 00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 1: They don't want to see New England in the super Bowl. 1144 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 4: Like no, I get yeah, like it's like all right, 1145 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 4: just wait a little bit, hold your horses. But I 1146 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 4: just think that the if like Jacksonville would have won, 1147 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 4: like the weekend we would have gotten in the AFC 1148 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 4: would have been like okay, but there is like it 1149 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,800 Speaker 4: was the Bills and Lions, and I think the Browns 1150 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,880 Speaker 4: still hold that as well. If they were to get 1151 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 4: in the playoffs, that are they going to you know, 1152 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 4: are they going to make it back. I don't know 1153 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 4: if Minnesota will ever have that, you know with their 1154 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,839 Speaker 4: all and four record, but I think that like those 1155 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 4: sorts of teams you need, and it's the Red Sox 1156 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 4: in the playoffs all those years right when Ian was 1157 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,759 Speaker 4: just a lad before they won and O four. 1158 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,799 Speaker 1: It's every year, could this be the year? Could this 1159 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:39,399 Speaker 1: be the year? 1160 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,600 Speaker 4: And I think that you need that with Buffalo, So 1161 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm glad that they won because I think 1162 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,879 Speaker 4: that that is the story in the in the. 1163 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 1: A f C. 1164 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,280 Speaker 4: We're gonna love all the games. I just want everybody 1165 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,360 Speaker 4: else to also love the games in Buffalo being that story, 1166 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 4: I think helps. 1167 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're gone. I mean McDermott looks like he staves 1168 00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:01,359 Speaker 5: off elimination. Yeah as well, what is that six stra 1169 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,920 Speaker 5: eight years with a win. It's more just the the 1170 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,400 Speaker 5: Josh Allen against. 1171 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 6: The world part of the narrative, sure, right, which is 1172 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 6: all right, he has to win it this year, like 1173 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 6: this is the worst team he's come to the playoffs with. 1174 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 1: I agree with that. 1175 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 5: Yes that, Hey, opportunity knocks, right, he's got to go 1176 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 5: beat up on all the kids. 1177 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 4: Well, it's all tell me, Yeah, it's no Chiefs and Ravens. Right, 1178 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:23,960 Speaker 4: everybody thinks that now this is the window. 1179 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 6: But uh and now might have something to say with 1180 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 6: that too, though. 1181 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're you're absolutely right about that. We 1182 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 4: shall see. All right, Well let's let's let's call it 1183 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,600 Speaker 4: a night here on. I want your flex find Ian 1184 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,000 Speaker 4: and Ian Roddy Underscore and tweet them if you feel 1185 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,840 Speaker 4: like he does about Nick Sirianni, I'm sure you'd love 1186 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,000 Speaker 4: to hear from me. I hit Mike up at Swollen Dome, 1187 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 4: and you can find me at Dan Byer on Fox 1188 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 4: and tell me how you feel about Nick Sirianni as well. 1189 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,480 Speaker 4: So guys, all right, how about we do it after 1190 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 4: the divisional round and we'll see if, maybe, maybe Mike's 1191 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,440 Speaker 4: team and my team will wind up facing each. 1192 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 1: Other in the NFC Championship game. 1193 00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 6: I can't wait. 1194 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 4: That would be something else, all right. So for Ian, 1195 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 4: Roddy and my Carmen, I'm Dan Byer. We'll talk to 1196 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 4: you next week. Greig here on I want your Flix. 1197 00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 2: H