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Speaker 1: based on your classification of people with many being good,

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Speaker 1: many being in the middle, and two percent and psychopathic,

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Speaker 1: And based on all the information you've been able to

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Speaker 1: read and and glean from from things that Americans don't

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Speaker 1: have the opportunity to see except that you're sharing it,

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Speaker 1: how would you classify Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Obama

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Speaker 1: is hard to understands a clear transition in Obama as

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Speaker 1: he gets into government and then starts to identify with

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Speaker 1: the authority that he has and as far as we

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Speaker 1: can see, starts to become more more abusive in his

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Speaker 1: exercise of authority because he identifies too much his own

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Speaker 1: ego with what has happened in relation to various parts

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Speaker 1: of the government. The president should be someone who forces

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Speaker 1: accountability on the government rather than someone who tries to

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Speaker 1: hide when the government gets it wrong. And Hillary, Hillary Clinton,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not that interested in the personal assessment. Ah,

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Speaker 1: but you're able to let me, let me say this,

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Speaker 1: You're able to glean things that others are not, Like,

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Speaker 1: for example, in the d n C case, you were

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Speaker 1: able to glean racism, sexism, homophobia, all things. Democrats say

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Speaker 1: they're the champions of women's rights. They're the champion like

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton takes money from the Saudias. The saudiast practice Sharia,

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Speaker 1: treat women, they kill gays and lesbians, and there's no

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Speaker 1: religious freedom for Christians or Jews. I find that repressive.

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Speaker 1: And she takes their money. I find that the height

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Speaker 1: of hypocrisy. So my question to you is, you know,

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Speaker 1: does she fit into that two percent that does what

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Speaker 1: it takes kind of person? The question is how has

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Speaker 1: she gotten where she is where she is now? What

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Speaker 1: is her where who are who are her kind of supporters,

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Speaker 1: her cronies, the people that she relies upon to propel

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Speaker 1: her and her working methods. Listen, I know, I know

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Speaker 1: you've given us been very generous with your time. Can

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Speaker 1: I ask you a question? Would you be able to

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Speaker 1: stay one more segment? You know, because I I honestly

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Speaker 1: I want to. I don't want to interrupt your questions,

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Speaker 1: but I have so many others and I don't want

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Speaker 1: to interrupt your answers. So I have so many other

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Speaker 1: questions because I really want you to speak freely and uh,

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Speaker 1: and that's why I I My list of questions is

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Speaker 1: very long, and I've read a lot about you and

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Speaker 1: I'd like to share a lot of it with our audience.

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Speaker 1: So if you can stay one more segment, Julian Assange

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Speaker 1: is with us. He's agreed to stay. Founder editor in

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Speaker 1: chief of Wiki Leaks. Will pick it up right where

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Speaker 1: we left off here about his worldview, what he's been

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Speaker 1: able to glean from the documents that he has seen

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Speaker 1: and is now sharing with the world. As I said,

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Speaker 1: I believe there are two major benefits for you, the

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Speaker 1: American people, and all of this. Number one that we

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Speaker 1: have it's been revealed how unsecure our computer systems are,

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Speaker 1: and there is no cybersecurity within government, none whatsoever. And

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Speaker 1: number two also a level of corruption that I think

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Speaker 1: should shock the conscience of any law abiding, constitutional loving

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Speaker 1: American and frankly citizens of the world. Will continue more

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Speaker 1: with Julian Osange. Will also get your calls in eight

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Speaker 1: D nine four one Shawn Tofrey telephone number. Will continue.

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Speaker 1: All right, noose round of information overload here on the

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Speaker 1: on Hannity's show, We continue with Julian Osange, the founder,

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Speaker 1: the editor in chief of Wiki leaks. Um. I want

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Speaker 1: to go back to again, You've been able to see

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Speaker 1: things from within the deep bowels not only of our government,

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Speaker 1: but other governments as well, and information that you've gleaned

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Speaker 1: that others have not had access too. Although you put

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Speaker 1: it together and you you share it with the world,

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Speaker 1: and I know you've come under great criticism as a

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Speaker 1: matter of fact, you know, did you say earlier in

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Speaker 1: this interview. I'm just paying attention to you here because

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Speaker 1: I think you've had friends assassinated because of your work. Yes,

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Speaker 1: in Kenya? Can you can you expand on that? What happened? Well,

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Speaker 1: we were involved in a process where the more than people.

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Speaker 1: It's quite a complex simistic thing Kenya, but that had

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Speaker 1: been killed by the some elements of the Kenyan police,

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Speaker 1: and the Kenyan Human Rights Commission was investigating this. The

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Speaker 1: guys were being originally shot, then garutted to hide the

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Speaker 1: the wounds, the wounds and then jumped into rivers and

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Speaker 1: buried in landfill, et cetera. And the guys who are

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Speaker 1: working with two lawyers, Ah, we're going to the Canny

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Speaker 1: Human Rights Commission to present their results. And then they're

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Speaker 1: in their car in the afternoon and they're van pulled

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Speaker 1: in front, van pulled in behind with ak and they

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Speaker 1: shot through the windows and killed them. Sad, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: It's really there's so much evil in this world. It's

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Speaker 1: so horrible sometimes you as you asked the question before Sawn,

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Speaker 1: about which I struggled answer a bit about you know,

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Speaker 1: what is my world view after being in the bowers

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Speaker 1: of institutions for a long time. I guess it's as

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Speaker 1: you get as you see people near the top of

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Speaker 1: the institution, what they say internally to each other. It's

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Speaker 1: basically a con himpt for democracy, a contempt for the

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Speaker 1: public and self confidence in that contempt, can I can

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Speaker 1: I ask you to expand on it in this way

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Speaker 1: through the prism of the d n C and those

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Speaker 1: emails again which showed racism, sexism, misogyny, anti semitism, you know,

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Speaker 1: gay slurs, etcetera. You know, you talk about a contempt

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Speaker 1: for we the people in the in the case of

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Speaker 1: the United States, that showed real contempt and real hypocrisy.

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Speaker 1: And I want you to go into the broader question,

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Speaker 1: and you have free reign to go anywhere you want

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Speaker 1: in terms of what, especially related to our election, do

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Speaker 1: would you think the American people should have a right

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Speaker 1: to know about Hillary Clinton based on what the bowels

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Speaker 1: of of documents that you have read that maybe we

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Speaker 1: have not. I'm not going to scoop our upcoming publications.

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Speaker 1: You gotta give me credit for trying. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: know what, you don't expect me not to try leak? Yeah, concerned,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know everyone knows. The big takeaway the

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Speaker 1: DNC acted against its own constitution to try and rig

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Speaker 1: the primary process against Bernie Sanders and for Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 1: And then afterwards, immediately afterwards, Hillary Clinton said that Debbie

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Speaker 1: Wasson Schultz says her best pal literally two hours afterwards

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Speaker 1: her best pal and would become the honorary head of

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Speaker 1: her campaign and be her surrogate, et cetera. Basically saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: don't worry or my cronies. As long as you do

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Speaker 1: something corrupt for me, you'll be taken care of. And

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Speaker 1: it's very interesting that she feels that she must make

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Speaker 1: that statement because obviously politically, it doesn't help her to

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Speaker 1: make that statement with the American people. It obviously doesn't

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Speaker 1: help her to make that statement with a band Bernie Sanders,

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Speaker 1: guys and goals. Ah, So who is that statement for.

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Speaker 1: It's for the you know, her cronies and allies, which

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Speaker 1: she wants to reassure, um, don't worry. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: look after you if you if you help me in

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Speaker 1: a corrupt manner, you're going to be taken care of.

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Speaker 1: And that's a very bad sign. So she's corrupt. She

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Speaker 1: is a corrupt behind the scenes when nobody's looking, she's

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Speaker 1: a very different person than what she portrays publicly. Fair statement,

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Speaker 1: yes is she statement? And we all just like to Sean,

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Speaker 1: can I go into some of the FBI report please,

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Speaker 1: and our cables about Hillary Clinton that we've published, because

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Speaker 1: I think this is something that really needs to be

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Speaker 1: focused on because it's undeniable. So in the FBI interview

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Speaker 1: with Hillary Clinton, I have it here. I'll just quote

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Speaker 1: from it. Um, where are we? So this is about

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Speaker 1: the sea in brackets on a document. Everyone everyone in

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Speaker 1: and has a security clearance or has been in the

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Speaker 1: Senate or investigive journe list or and frankly a lot

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Speaker 1: of people have been in the most people have been

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Speaker 1: the military. No, what a C in brackett means next

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Speaker 1: to the paragraph that means classified and S in brackett

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Speaker 1: classified constential and s and brackett means classified secret that

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Speaker 1: you and brackets means unclassified, and ts and bracketts means

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Speaker 1: top secret. Ah. So, in her interview UM, which is

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Speaker 1: reported by the FBI, when asked what the parenticle C

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Speaker 1: meant before a paragraph within the captioned email, Clinton stated

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Speaker 1: that she did not know and could only speculate it

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Speaker 1: was a referencing paragraphs marked in alphabetic order. There's no

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Speaker 1: A and B. There's no A and b. Parent as assistants,

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Speaker 1: we have something much stronger than that, much much stronger

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Speaker 1: than that which we published. Her cables, all of her

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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine cables and as some of her

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Speaker 1: two thous cables. So that's the first year as Secretary

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Speaker 1: of State. And there are literally thousands of examples on

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Speaker 1: her website where she has signed off the cable with

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Speaker 1: her own name Clinton and the paragraphs above that have

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Speaker 1: this C in brackets. She has been using that C

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Speaker 1: in brackets thousands of times while she was Secretary of State. Now,

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton turned around and said, oh, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I just dictated that cable. Someone else put these brackets in,

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Speaker 1: which I don't believe happened all the time. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: she turns around and says that we also have thousands

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Speaker 1: of cables that we have published that she's were sent

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Speaker 1: to her that had this C in brackets. So the original,

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Speaker 1: the original I never sent or received classified information. Was

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Speaker 1: always a lie. That was always a lie. But she

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Speaker 1: is intimately familiar with this c mocking that we have

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Speaker 1: published proofs her writing it. It was let me add

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Speaker 1: one of the things. There's one email thread from June

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Speaker 1: of that included Hillary telling a top aid his name

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Speaker 1: is Jake Sullivan, to send secure information through insecure means

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Speaker 1: and in response to her request for a set of

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Speaker 1: since redacted talking points. You know, He writes, well, they've

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Speaker 1: had issues sending secure facts and they're working on and

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Speaker 1: she responded, well, if they can't turn it into non

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Speaker 1: paper meaning email with no identifying heading, and said nonsecure. Now,

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Speaker 1: why is that important in light of what happened last night?

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Speaker 1: Because last night was the first time she mentioned there's

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Speaker 1: no heading, you don't need a heading, and it chose

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Speaker 1: it was a heading there. She was aware of. Heating

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Speaker 1: was aware. It's the importance of removing these hittings. So

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Speaker 1: there is a concern, did effort to defy the law,

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Speaker 1: defy security, do whatever she pretty much damn well pleases,

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Speaker 1: and then she lies with a bandit. Now, you were

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Speaker 1: talking about three personality types in the last half hour.

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Speaker 1: You said two percent psychopathic. That kind of seems to

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Speaker 1: me to fit into that category. And you didn't want

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Speaker 1: to go there. I don't want to make a personality assessment.

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Speaker 1: And in some ways it doesn't matter. She does what

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Speaker 1: she has the allies that she has, and that's going

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Speaker 1: to define her as a president, just like most political candidates. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and that to some degree is unalterable. Well, then let

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Speaker 1: me ask you about America's media. Though you put out

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Speaker 1: all this, do well a good person, she's going to

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Speaker 1: act like that if you read The People of the Lie.

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Speaker 1: Though I don't know if you've ever read The Road

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Speaker 1: Less Traveled or The People of the Lie. I mean

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Speaker 1: lying in and of itself as an act of evil.

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Speaker 1: There's a certain dishonest d and when you do it

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Speaker 1: with a calculated purpose to advance one's career, I think

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Speaker 1: it becomes even more pronounced. Um. But the American she's

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Speaker 1: a liar. She lied. That's a concrete example of her

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Speaker 1: her lying. How many times do you think you've caught

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Speaker 1: her lying? Based on your analysis of what you found,

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Speaker 1: I think these dozens of incidences. So she writes, she

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Speaker 1: lies with regularity. This particular one that I just gave

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Speaker 1: this is someone something that everyone can see. You can

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Speaker 1: l U, S d H and just put in Clinton

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Speaker 1: in the search term, select the classification as confidential or confidential,

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Speaker 1: no forum or secret, and you will see those cables.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question. Everyone can prove it.

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Speaker 1: What do you how do you assess America's media? Now?

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Speaker 1: I started at the beginning of this interview, and I

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Speaker 1: admitted I think I was wrong about you, and uh,

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Speaker 1: I apologized by the way. I didn't do it the

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Speaker 1: last time, but I will now because I think you

646
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: have done a great service for the country and I

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Speaker 1: really worried. And my rationale at the time I actually

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Speaker 1: stand by it was I really thought you had compromised

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Speaker 1: the security of Americans and that's where my focus was.

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Speaker 1: So I did have a rationale, but it turns out

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Speaker 1: that I was wrong. Um, But in this instance, you know,

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Speaker 1: how do you assess American media where you're doing all

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Speaker 1: the work for them? And I know that even the

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Speaker 1: New York Times criticized you, which kind of made me

655
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Speaker 1: laugh so much. Bill Keller at the Times at the time,

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Speaker 1: you know, attacking you personally and but then stealing every

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Speaker 1: and then stealing everything that you put out. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's hilarious to me. But you know, my question to

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Speaker 1: you is, how do you assess the American media? You

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Speaker 1: lay out all this information. They're not informing the American

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Speaker 1: people to the extent they should, are they there's some

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Speaker 1: good journalists in the American media. There are, But if

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Speaker 1: we're talking about institutions in this election cycle. It. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's really embarrassing. I mean, some of that's coming out

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Speaker 1: through DNC emails, but that there's a full blown as

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Speaker 1: a rapid particized Sorry, there's increasing bias in the media,

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Speaker 1: much more than there was four years ago. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure why. I think it's probably because Hillary Clinton's network

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Speaker 1: has grown so large and is intermingled with a lot

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Speaker 1: of that media. You look at The Daily Beast, for example,

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Speaker 1: it's parent organization has Chelsea Clinton on the board. Those

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Speaker 1: sorts of connections exist in MSNBC, Washington Post, Politico, et cetera. Basically,

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Speaker 1: they're all in bed with each other, aren't they. Well,

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Speaker 1: they're in bed with each other, but you could be

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Speaker 1: in been with You could be you know, have friends

676
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: or allies or relatives, but you might have ethical principles.

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00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: Criticized Republicans and I never get credit for it. I

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Speaker 1: beat the crap out of them. Let me ask you

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Speaker 1: this question, based on your knowledge, do you think that

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Speaker 1: Hillary's email server issue potentially led to the death of

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Speaker 1: innocent people like, for example, like Benghazi or the Iranian

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Speaker 1: scientist or any of those issues. Hillary Clinton's emails a

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Speaker 1: lot of people have had them ah. If you read

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Speaker 1: carefully the FBI report, you see that all her emails

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Speaker 1: from her private server, private server in her lounge room

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Speaker 1: there were three, were sucked out to a cloud run

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Speaker 1: by some contractor, she says, in a bathroom illicitly. They

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Speaker 1: were also pushed into Gmail. They were put on a

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Speaker 1: laptop which they posted to themselves, and then immediately lost

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Speaker 1: the whole laptop. They say. I think it's the interesting

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Speaker 1: question as to whether they lost the laptop with all

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Speaker 1: the emails of the United States top diplomat on it,

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Speaker 1: or whether this is quite elaborate and frankly clever way

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Speaker 1: to make a laptop disappear when you're expecting a subpoeno.

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Speaker 1: I think we're not. I think we think the people

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Speaker 1: that use bleach bit we know the answer. Fifteen phones

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Speaker 1: break it busted up with a hammer. Phones they destroyed

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Speaker 1: at least five with a hammer. Only two could be found.

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Speaker 1: That she only used one device, Julian. She told us

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Speaker 1: she only used one device. That was a lie. That

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Speaker 1: was a lie. And and also she had an iPad

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Speaker 1: and emails were being received on that iPad. So there's

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Speaker 1: emails that we have published where you see her sending

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Speaker 1: emails from her iPad, or her staff are talking about

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Speaker 1: her receiving emails on her iPad. I'm a privacy believer,

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Speaker 1: I you know, I just have this belief that we

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Speaker 1: ought to be able to you know, individuals ought to

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Speaker 1: have a right to privacy. Governments are very different from me,

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Speaker 1: except for covert operations military secrets that I think every

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Speaker 1: government does have a right to have. An an an evil world.

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Speaker 1: Um like I, for example, use an iPhone, it's supposed

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Speaker 1: to be encrypted. How easy would it be for you

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Speaker 1: to bust into anybody's iPhone? And I asked this on

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Speaker 1: behalf of my audience that probably like me, is concerned

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Speaker 1: about their own privacy. I'm not a computer hacker. I

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Speaker 1: was one as a teenager. I became a security expert,

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Speaker 1: an analyst, and publisher and someone afterwards and fighter for

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Speaker 1: the freedom of the press and the First Amendments on.

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Speaker 1: But of course we have to study all this in

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Speaker 1: order to know how to protect our own organization. Wikilix

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Speaker 1: is constantly attacked by state parties, by everybody, mafia and

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Speaker 1: on everyone. We were banned by China as early as

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Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, so we've had this ongoing war

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Speaker 1: trying to protect ourselves for more than a day. This

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Speaker 1: is kind of like a great movie one day. Is

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Speaker 1: there anybody you want to play you in the movie? No, no, nobody.

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Speaker 1: You want to do it yourself to not be such things.

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Speaker 1: All right, just one more question final aust and for

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Speaker 1: Joina Sange, who is the founder editor in chief of

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Speaker 1: wiki leaks when we get back. Also your reaction all

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Speaker 1: of this eight nine four one, Sean if you want

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Speaker 1: to be a part of the program. That more coming

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Speaker 1: up straight ahead. All right, we'll continue. Final question now

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Speaker 1: for the founder, the editor in chief of Wiki Leaks,

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Speaker 1: Julian Assange. Yes or no? I really want to answer

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Speaker 1: you're from your best analysis and your understanding. Do you

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Speaker 1: believe Hillary's email caused the death of anybody? I don't know,

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Speaker 1: As I was saying before, they circulated very widely on

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Speaker 1: Boston laptops in the post, copy to remote servers, copied

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Speaker 1: to Gmail, flowing over the internet. So that's kind of

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Speaker 1: great from a Wiki leagues perspective, because it means such

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Speaker 1: a wide number of access points. Yeah, yeah, it's great

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Speaker 1: from weekily suspective. But we are we are talking about

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Speaker 1: the emails of the top us diplomat. My My philosophy

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Speaker 1: about secrets, military secrets and so on is yes, I

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Speaker 1: believe that there are genuine secrets for a period of time.

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Speaker 1: For example, our sources, we obviously keep them secret, otherwise

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Speaker 1: they would be harmed. But it's the amount of time.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there is any secret in government that

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Speaker 1: must be kept secret forever, and that if there was

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Speaker 1: such a secret, it would lead to an accountability. What

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Speaker 1: we're talking about with Hillary's emails is whether you know

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Speaker 1: there was a military operation that was important, say to

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Speaker 1: save Savor hostage for example, held by ISIS, and could

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Speaker 1: that information come out near the time that that was happening,

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Speaker 1: or CIA officers knocks without official you know, diplomatic status,

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Speaker 1: if their identities came out and they were in a

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Speaker 1: very difficult situation in the Middle East. You know, I

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00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: do lead to harm. I do think there's there's something

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Speaker 1: here that we need to pay attention to. And I'll

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Speaker 1: just leave this thought with you as you you go

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Speaker 1: to your dinner. Is that you know the skills that

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Speaker 1: you and your team and I know you consider yourself

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00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: a journalist have accumulated over these many years, you know

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Speaker 1: potentially could be used to act into whatever electronic devices

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Speaker 1: isis is using and save innocent lives. There is a

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Speaker 1: potential for great good that can be accomplished here. You know,

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Speaker 1: maybe just informing the American people what a pathological liar

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton is, because you've seen it for yourself time

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00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: and time again, is a wake up call. And at

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Speaker 1: least people go in with the full knowledge of what

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Speaker 1: they're doing when they vote on November the eighth. But

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Speaker 1: I wish I had more time. I I really thank

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Speaker 1: you for your time, and I appreciate you taking the

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Speaker 1: time to be with us and share this information. Thank you. Alight,

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00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: be safe. By the way, I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people are out there. Get you all right eight nine

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Speaker 1: four one shown or to free telephone number you want

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Speaker 1: to be a part of the program. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: pretty amazing. I find this guy fascinating, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure I believe anything that anybody says about the guy.

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Speaker 1: And I know they brought a lot of charges I

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Speaker 1: asked him about. I don't know what to believe. I

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Speaker 1: know this that when you hit governments this hard as

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Speaker 1: he has, and by the way, effectively he's gotten people

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Speaker 1: out of jail and and had a lot of positive impact.

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Speaker 1: I know that the media narrative, the medium matters of

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Speaker 1: the world, which are obsessed with me and tape four

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Speaker 1: hours a day because they hire losers in their underwear

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Speaker 1: and all over the country to monitor every word that

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Speaker 1: I say. And they, oh, this is political. Well, I

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00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: asked Julian last night, well, what if it was stuff

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Speaker 1: on Trump? He said, well, the problem with Trump is

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Speaker 1: he says everything he thinks. He's not a phony. There's

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Speaker 1: no there's there's no pretense with him, you know. But

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Speaker 1: back to my original assessment. I remember when this first broke,

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Speaker 1: the assessment was pretty clear that this probably was the

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Speaker 1: worst damage to national security in the history of the

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Speaker 1: country and would result to people's death. And based on

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Speaker 1: that and like, wow, this is espionage, this is you know,

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Speaker 1: a crime. So I did say that. I will say

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Speaker 1: this now that Wicki Leaks has a ten year perfect record.

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Speaker 1: And again I was a privacy person. I kind of

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Speaker 1: I don't want people being hacked away. They're being hacked

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Speaker 1: every five minutes. It's not how I operate. But with

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Speaker 1: that said, there is a great public service that has

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Speaker 1: been performed here and I don't even think about this.

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Speaker 1: This never happens, and yet all of these foreign countries

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Speaker 1: have the capability of Julian Assange as the founder and

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Speaker 1: editor in chief for wikily. So they're getting all that information.

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Speaker 1: The only difference is they're not telling us that they

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Speaker 1: have it. So now we know we have a huge

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Speaker 1: cyber security safety problem. Number two. You know, as corrupt

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Speaker 1: as I've always known instinctively that government is, he has

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Speaker 1: also done a great service exposing just how deeply fundamentally

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Speaker 1: corrupt and dishonest your leaders are and your government is.

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Speaker 1: I take for example, the d n C email hack.

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Speaker 1: So the same people that accuse Conservatives every election season

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Speaker 1: of being racist, they use racist language themselves. They do it.

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Speaker 1: They're guilty of what they accused Conservatives of. They're anti Semitic,

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Speaker 1: they are misogynistic, they make gay and lesbian slurs, and

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Speaker 1: much more. What a public service to get to see

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Speaker 1: the deep Now. I know the media's that they ignored

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Speaker 1: all of this because they are the willing accomplices of

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, just like they were Barack Obama. So I'm

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Speaker 1: just I'm telling you right now, this is a good service.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember at least Jordan was married to this guy,

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Speaker 1: Mike Hastings ms Michael Right. I like her a lot.

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Speaker 1: She's a lovely card. She's best friends with Elise, he

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Speaker 1: used to work for me, their best bfs. They go

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Speaker 1: on vacations, SENDI pictures like gee, I wish I had

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Speaker 1: all the time Elise has that. No, I'm gonna just kidding.

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Speaker 1: We're proud of her. She's doing great work and she's

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Speaker 1: got her own TV shows. She's put together. So many

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Speaker 1: people have left this left working for me and done

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Speaker 1: great things, haven't they? And Linda stuck with me, you know,

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Speaker 1: stuck like glue. Maybe hear that song by sugar Land anyway.

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Speaker 1: Hastings became a vocal critic of of the surveillance state

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Speaker 1: during the investigation of Reporters by the U. S. Department

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Speaker 1: of Justice, in referring to the restrictions on freedom of

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Speaker 1: the repressed by the Obama administration as a war on journalism.

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Speaker 1: His last story, Why Democrats Love to Spy on Americans,

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Speaker 1: was published by BuzzFeed. Hastings died in that high speed,

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Speaker 1: really bizarre, questionable automobile chase and Los Angeles back in

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Speaker 1: Eliza's husband remember calling her at the time, and she

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Speaker 1: just devastated, And I spoke to her recently. She's actually

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Speaker 1: doing really well. We're really proud of her. She's engaged

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Speaker 1: to she's you know, she's she's doing She's in a

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Speaker 1: good place. So that's what I think. I'd love to

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Speaker 1: hear what you say. Vanessa is in New Mexico. Vanessa,

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Speaker 1: you're on the Sean Hannity Show. Hi, Hi, thanks for

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Speaker 1: taking my call. I just wanted to say that when

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Speaker 1: he talked about what the Democrats are really really about,

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00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: and it shows with What's the Lake is that that's

855
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: what stuck out to me, is that they portrayed themselves

856
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: as the political party that really really cares about people

857
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: and we've got your back, and and the truth is

858
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 1: just the opposite. And the truth is coming out because

859
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 1: he and his organization have not only the skills, but

860
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: the courage to expose it. And like you've said, it's

861
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: to me, it's exposing the fundamental uh darkness and evil

862
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: that is in the hearts and minds of our leaders,

863
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: which drives them to do the things they're doing. And

864
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 1: with Hillary Clintons, the arrogance of that party to think

865
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: that they can be exposed and still have the the

866
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: the likability of people in America. It's just it's like

867
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,919
Speaker 1: her audacity even run for president when she is responsible

868
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,479
Speaker 1: for the deaths of four Americans and then calling those

869
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: families liars. It's it's even amazing to me, even though

870
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: I have a realistic view of house. You know, it's

871
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: the timing of having Julian on today, I think was,

872
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: you know, perfect in light of this town hall last night.

873
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 1: I just thought it was amazing. But thank you, Vanessa.

874
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: I'm interested in what everybody has to say here. Janelle

875
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: is in Georgia, way across Georgia. How are you, Janelle?

876
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: Glad you called? Listening to news Talk WUSB. Hey, Sean,

877
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: It's good to be with you. I'm excited to get

878
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: talk to you, listen to you every day, watch you

879
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: on Fox at night. Thank you just a great patriot.

880
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: Well God bless you. I appreciate your kind words. There's

881
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: a lot of people that hate me right now. It's

882
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: nice to get a little bit of reassurance occasionally, because

883
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: I don't get much of it. I promise you, thank you,

884
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: especially in Georgia's thank you very much. Wanted to say

885
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: about Julian Assange, I'm I'm looking forward to seeing what

886
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: he has to offer what he has to put out

887
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: there that he says he has on Hillary, because while

888
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 1: his tactics maybe a little bit questionable and how they

889
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: go about gathering this material, she is a criminal and

890
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: she's not been held accountable for anything she's done in

891
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: thirty plus years. Sean, I'm I'm sick of it. I

892
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: want her. I want something to stick. She needs to

893
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: be held accountable for all that she's done. I agree.

894
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 1: I think the fact that I honestly they'll believe that

895
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 1: there's at least of your fellow citizens that we could

896
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: get her on video murdering somebody shooting him in the

897
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: head a point blank range for no reason, handcuffed behind

898
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: their back, and they still defend her. That's a problem.

899
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: We have. Half the country's nuts. It is I don't

900
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: understand that. It's crazy to me, and in Georgia, where

901
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: I live, it's it's I can't believe I don't know

902
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: anybody that's voting for and I can't believe that you

903
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: know that she's up in Georgia. That to me is embarrassed,

904
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: and I'm going, I don't know anybody that's voting for her.

905
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: But it's let me tell you they're out there, and

906
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: these people write me regularly, so I know that what

907
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: they think and how they feel and everything else. Anyway,

908
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 1: thank you, Janelle, all my best to my friends and Georgia.

909
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: Jani is in California, Joni High. How are you glad

910
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: you called? And I'm fine, thank you. I've been thinking

911
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: about Assange as well, and I'm hoping that he can

912
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: he can lower at bomb of it October surprise, that

913
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:33,439
Speaker 1: can hopefully bring Hillary down because she's truly the head

914
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: of the Clinton crime syndicate. And then I'm wondering, like you,

915
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: as you just said, whether the mainstream media would even

916
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: care because it's it's anyway, this goes into the electoral

917
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna think the only reason Hannity likes Sosange now

918
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 1: is because he's gonna make this document dump on Hillary, which,

919
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm not gonna lie. I mean, I'm

920
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: sure absolutely, But here's the way. Here's what I've come

921
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: to realize that's even bigger and more profound. Although this

922
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: could have a profound effect and an altering effect on

923
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: our election this time, but I think the fact that

924
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: we we better pay attention to cybersecurity. I mean, the

925
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: fact that he says it's easy to pack into the Pentagon,

926
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 1: the fact that he did it at sixteen years of age,

927
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: it's mind blowing. The second thing the fact that our

928
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: government is so corrupt and they've been exposed at such hypocrites.

929
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: And the third thing that was kind of reassuring from

930
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: the guy I thought was he's not after private citizens,

931
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: He's after governments that are corrupt and exposing corruption. Well,

932
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: that to me is fundamentally what journalism should be about.

933
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: So I kind of like the gutsiness of it. I

934
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: am sure that if it was if it was against

935
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: George Bush, that Democrats would love the guy and um,

936
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: but it's not. It's against Hillary, and I think that

937
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: they're scared to death. I am told within Democratic ranks

938
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: there's they are literally in their pants over this whole

939
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: Julian Ossange issue. They're scared to death. Yeah, it's happening

940
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,720
Speaker 1: in their pants. They're blanking their pants, pooping their pants.

941
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying it nicely. Why do you make Why do

942
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: you push me? You push me because you want me

943
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: to say it. You push me because you want me

944
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: in trouble. I get in trouble, I get fired. You

945
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: lose your job. That really makes a lot of sense. Well,

946
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: so for your own self preservation, miss I used to

947
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: drop an F bomb every five seconds. Maybe you could

948
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: be a little bit nicer to me to preserve and

949
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 1: protect so I can put food in the mouth of

950
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: that beautiful baby you have at your home, who looks

951
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 1: as irish as the days long? Did you tell Letty?

952
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: I said that that kid has got you know, reddish hair,

953
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 1: he's got an irish face and irish skinned. How did

954
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: that happen? Did tell him? I said that he's gonna laugh?

955
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: Justin Portland, Oregon? What's up justin? How are you? Yeah, Hian,

956
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. I think that Julia saun

957
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: has done in a good public service. I think he's

958
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 1: proved just how not transparent Hillary and the Democrats have been. Yeah,

959
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: but I want to highlight one of the things that

960
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: I haven't heard quite yet. Uh, And that's the issue

961
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: of her avoiding the responsibility of handling the confidential information.

962
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 1: She keeps saying I didn't know, I can't remember. Listen,

963
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: if I go as a concealer to carry oh, you

964
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: better remember, oh yeah, and you can't and you can't say, well,

965
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: I had a concussion in twenty twelve. I just forgot

966
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: my gun was in my pocket. It's not gonna fly

967
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: even Oh yeah, you're done. Oh you're done. Listen to

968
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: get the file with the cake because you're gonna need it.

969
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: You'll be in jail, handcuffed, perp walked and and fingerprinted

970
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: and and what do you call that? Mug shot at

971
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: robin Ocala, Florida. Next Sean Hannity Show, what's going on? Yeah,

972
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: Hi Sean, I'm gonna change the topic a little bit. Um. Okay,

973
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: my daughter was your server at the US Open on Saturday.

974
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, your daughter? When you mean when I

975
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: was eating at the restaurant? Yes, sir, Wait a minute.

976
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: She a real Christian girl. We had I was with

977
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: some friends of mine from TV, my producer, porter and others,

978
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: and we had the biggest discussion with her and another guy,

979
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: all about faith in religion. That's what we're talking about,

980
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: the whole in her. That's what she shared with me.

981
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: She said, you made her day, you made her a week. Yeah.

982
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: I was asking them to sit down and join us,

983
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: but and then the owner of the restaurant came out

984
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: and I said, can they join us? I actually asked him,

985
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: and he said, I guess so. You know, he wants

986
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: them to work, but we She, by the way, is

987
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: a lovely, lovely girl. And the guy she works with

988
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: I loved him too, well, thank you so much. She

989
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: just she shared that story with me. She was telling us.

990
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: We were sitting there talking about you know, salvation and

991
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: God and having a long discussion because I was raised

992
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: the Catholic and others were raised different denominations, and your

993
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: daughter weighed in. She was so smart and so good,

994
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: she was amazing. I loved her. I gave her a

995
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: hug when I left. You know, that's what she said.

996
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: She she said that, and she said, and if anyone

997
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: ever doubts how generous Sean Hannity is, you can tell

998
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: them he's more than generous. Oh you mean I left

999
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: her a big tip? Okay, yes, yes, I always do that,

1000
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: by the way, and it's not uncommon. But not only that.

1001
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: She said that you were She said you saw her

1002
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: as a person, And she said, when you're in her

1003
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,439
Speaker 1: particul do a job. So many people look through them

1004
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: and over them and around them and don't see who

1005
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: they are as people. I've experienced that, you know what

1006
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: I spent years washing dishes by hand. I didn't have

1007
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: a machine. I was cook, bus boy, waiter, bartender for

1008
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: ten years in my life. Believe me, I know everything

1009
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: that your daughters do and I did him all myself.

1010
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: And she's a single mom working hard. Really well. I

1011
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: should have given her a bigger tip. Done. Oh no,

1012
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: you did fine, she said. She said, you were awesome.

1013
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: The people you were with were awesome, she was, she

1014
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: was on. We had such a good time. I mean,

1015
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: I honestly, that discussion I love talking about I can

1016
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: talk about that all day and night. She and she

1017
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: added so much to the discussion. I was very impressed

1018
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: with her. And we all walked away were all talking

1019
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: about how great she is. And one of her I

1020
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: forget the waiter's name too, he was a good guy. Well,

1021
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: thank you for Sharon that. Please tell her she's in

1022
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: my prayers. God bless her, and I really enjoyed meeting her.

1023
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: She was very special girl. You should be very proud

1024
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: as a mom. She is a lovely girl. Here's what

1025
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: we're working on with re second immigration, sure our border,

1026
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: enforcing our current laws. We talked about criminal aliens, n

1027
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: that's just enforcing laws for people who came here illegally.

1028
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: You came and committed violent crimes. Um, we should enforce

1029
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: those laws. But really what we're focused on is securing

1030
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: our border. Well, Trump said he was going to build

1031
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: a wall. I think conditions on the ground determine what

1032
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: you need in particular areas. Some areas you might need

1033
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: a wall, so marry, you might need double fencing. My

1034
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: own view on this is whatever kind of device or

1035
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,919
Speaker 1: barrier or policy to secure the borders necessary to secure

1036
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: the border, then do it. Abdul Razik ali Arton, the

1037
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: man police say deliberately rammed a car into a group

1038
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: of pedestrians, then got out and started slashing people with

1039
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: a butcher knife. According to federal law enforcement officials, Artan

1040
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: was an eighteen year old Somali citizen living near the

1041
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: university as a legal permanent resident. Isis is now claiming

1042
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: responsibility for inspiring the attack on the Ohio State University campus.

1043
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes when I'm talking to young interns of the White

1044
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: House who are still immunizing themselves from the cynicism that's

1045
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: so chronic in this town, UM, I remind them if

1046
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: you had to choose a moment in history to be born,

1047
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: and you didn't know ahead of time who you were

1048
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: going to be. You choose now because the world has

1049
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 1: never been less violent, healthier, better educated, more tolerant, with

1050
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: more opportunity for more people, and more connected than it

1051
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: is today. I have no idea who he's talking about,

1052
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: none what country is talking about either. Anyway, News Roundup

1053
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: and Information overload our here on the Sean Hannity Show

1054
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: to free or telephone numbers eight hundred nine for one, Shawn,

1055
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of the program.

1056
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: As I mentioned earlier, the thing that is concerning me

1057
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: the most in what I see Congress and their priorities

1058
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: and what they're laying out now. Of course, they hope

1059
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: to adjourn for the year by the end of the week,

1060
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: and we're told that the Continuing Resolution budget is is

1061
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: unveiled along with a final deal on water resources and

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Speaker 1: that bill. But what concerns me is after January you

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Speaker 1: to top a top ally of House Speaker Paul Ryan

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Speaker 1: outlining the GOP leadership strategy to in the beginning isolate

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Speaker 1: and block President Donald Trump's populist campaign promises, which includes

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Speaker 1: some of his immigration reforms. For example, what they're saying

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Speaker 1: is and this was quoted by Bill Flores, Congressman from Texas,

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Speaker 1: we all agree that some of the president's proposed policies

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Speaker 1: are not gonna line up very well with our policies.

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Speaker 1: Let's do the things we agree on. Let's do tax reform,

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Speaker 1: let's do Obamacare, Let's replace Obamacare, let's start dealing with

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Speaker 1: border security, let's rebuild our national security, and that on

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Speaker 1: those areas where his agenda is not exactly aligned with ours,

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Speaker 1: we'll figure out the rest in the next six months.

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Speaker 1: The GOP congressional leadership, in other words, they want to

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Speaker 1: pass all their priorities, but they don't want to pass

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's priorities, which means Donald Trump, I'm sure, at

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Speaker 1: some point is going to figure out that there might

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Speaker 1: be typical Washington maneuvering in in place here, and I

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Speaker 1: hope that he is aware of what's going on. Congressman

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Speaker 1: Dave brad Is from Virginia and Representative Congressman Brian baban

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Speaker 1: Is from Texas here to talk about this some of

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Speaker 1: the few Congressmen that actually come on this program anymore.

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Speaker 1: Congressman Brad, how are you hey doing great? Shown feeling

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Speaker 1: feeling good with the new momentum We have, and you're right.

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Speaker 1: The the the election your issues that the seismic shift

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Speaker 1: everyone felt was due to precisely these issues that affect

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Speaker 1: the forgotten man, right the immigration issues, to trade issues,

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Speaker 1: to cleaning the swamp. Paul Ryan's Better Way agenda has

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Speaker 1: some great stuff in it. Right, tax reform, we're all

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Speaker 1: going to get to that, but we we've got the

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Speaker 1: the the issues that won this election for us in Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, etcetera,

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Speaker 1: are the issues we've been fighting for. I came in

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Speaker 1: the week of Obama's unconstitutional amnesty and Bayner said we're

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Speaker 1: gonna fight tooth and nail on that, and we didn't

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Speaker 1: lift a finger. And then there's been executive action ever since.

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Speaker 1: And then my good friend Brian Babin from Texas will

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Speaker 1: see it up. But he's had the great bill on

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Speaker 1: the refugee clean up, which he can explain to you,

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Speaker 1: and uh, he's had the vetting stuff to for it

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Speaker 1: was cool and so uh, we've had bills in the opera.

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Speaker 1: We have five bills that have passed out of good

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Speaker 1: Lad Committee of Judiciary on Immigration, and good Lad is

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Speaker 1: a very rational chairman. These are not hair on fire bills.

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Speaker 1: These are just five immigration bills that will make this

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Speaker 1: country's a safer place, and we have not our leadership

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Speaker 1: has not moved these bills. And so that's the issue.

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Speaker 1: These five bills have to go. Well, I agree with them,

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Speaker 1: and look for example, I mean they have funding over

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Speaker 1: the government that Obanda. Obama's demanding three point nine billion

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Speaker 1: for refugee resettlement. That's a two increase over the current

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Speaker 1: year funding. And I'm saying, well, Congress has the power

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Speaker 1: of the purse. The last time I checked our constitutions

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Speaker 1: that still exists or was it? Did we have an

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Speaker 1: amendment that I didn't know about? Brian, you want to

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Speaker 1: weigh in? Sure? I will, Sean, how are you great

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Speaker 1: to be back with you? Great to have you back, sir, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm good. Good to be on. My friend Dave Brad

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Speaker 1: as well. It's it's uh the continuing resolution negotiations that

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Speaker 1: are going on right now. Uh. We have We've had

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Speaker 1: an op ed out of to the conference. I've talked

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Speaker 1: to a lot of my colleagues, including Dave, and he

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Speaker 1: understands this. We cannot add an increase the budget of

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Speaker 1: the o r R or the Officer Refugee Resettlement and

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Speaker 1: the refugee program. We did that last December in the omnibus,

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Speaker 1: we increased it by a hundred million dollars. And we

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Speaker 1: must we absolutely must prevent uh increasing the budget because

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Speaker 1: we know, as you just said, Sean, this president is

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Speaker 1: trying to get an end of the year gift of

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Speaker 1: two point two billion to his refugee program when we

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Speaker 1: know absolutely on the heels of this Ohio State attack

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Speaker 1: a Somali refugee. We have got to stop the program

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Speaker 1: until we can vet these people, and we need to

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Speaker 1: stop it from these hotbeds of Islamic terrorism. And uh, this,

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Speaker 1: this refuge this whole refugee program has been just taken

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Speaker 1: over by this president. Uh you know this, this bill

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Speaker 1: started in ninety this this law, it was sponsored by

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Speaker 1: Ted Kennedy none other, and signed by President Carter. It

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Speaker 1: was funded at two million, and now it's approaching two billion.

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Speaker 1: We don't really even know. Actually it's it's sitting. He's

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Speaker 1: demanding three point nine billion. It's not even My only

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Speaker 1: point is this. I mean, I think one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons and I keep arguing that the Republican Party created

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is because they don't keep their promises. They didn't.

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Speaker 1: They had show votes to repeal or replace Obamacare, but

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Speaker 1: they've never used the power of the purse. Ted Cruz

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Speaker 1: became a pariah because he tried to. And and then

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Speaker 1: when it comes to initially like this that they don't

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Speaker 1: want to fight before they go home for their Christmas vacation,

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Speaker 1: and then I look at their priorities, well, let's only

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Speaker 1: do the things we agree on first. And that to

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Speaker 1: me is Washington speak for we're not going to do

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Speaker 1: the things that you really want that you promised, Mr Trump,

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Speaker 1: which tells me that trumpet to get his negotiating hat

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Speaker 1: on and go in there and say, well, if we

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Speaker 1: do what you want, we're also doing what I want.

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Speaker 1: We must we must support this present this president elects agenda,

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Speaker 1: and immigration is one of the if not the top

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Speaker 1: plank in his platform. And uh so this is why

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Speaker 1: I think that my bill or any of the other

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Speaker 1: bills that would stop this program, if Dave uh mentioned

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Speaker 1: a second ago, has got to be followed through with, well, Dave,

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Speaker 1: do you see what I'm seeing here? What you know,

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Speaker 1: for example, every time you're told with from Washington that

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get a spending cut or or a tax

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get the tax increase, but you're also going

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Speaker 1: to get a spending cut. You always get the tax

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Speaker 1: increase upfront. Ten years later, you never end up getting

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Speaker 1: that spending cut. Ever, if you offer amnesty, you always

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Speaker 1: get the amnesty. You never get the wall. That's the

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Speaker 1: way Washington works. I'm tired of that game. I'm tired

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Speaker 1: of Republicans playing that game. Yeah, you got it right.

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Speaker 1: I'm on the budget committee, and I think everybody knows

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Speaker 1: that Trump just won because we've had a vacuum here

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Speaker 1: when it comes to fiscal responsibility. That that's at twenty trillions,

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Speaker 1: the unfunded liabilities, Medicare and soil security are insolvent in

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Speaker 1: twelve years, and we have a hundred trillion dollar bill

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Speaker 1: and the kids won't get those programs. And so for

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Speaker 1: the last six years, instead of doing a budget, we

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Speaker 1: don't do a budget. We do an omnibus white of

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Speaker 1: four Christmas, loaded up with every toy imaginable that adds

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Speaker 1: to the debt, and then go home. And and for

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Speaker 1: some reason, the American people, we had a huge outsider

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Speaker 1: wave this year. Right, outsider wave is only what it

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Speaker 1: is what it is, But the reality is we all know,

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Speaker 1: jerrymandering has rendered of politician seats safe. Let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: look and money and well, and the problem is, like

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Speaker 1: I know, they're talking about one trillion dollars in infrastructure

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Speaker 1: spending and Democrats love it and Republicans love it because

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Speaker 1: they're thinking it's gonna work the same old way it's

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Speaker 1: always work, which is, Okay, I'll give you this number

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Speaker 1: of dollars for the project and your district, you give

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Speaker 1: me this number of dollars for the project in my district.

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Speaker 1: It runs through the Washington bureaucracy, you get fifty cents

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Speaker 1: on the dollar. Rather than having a guy like a

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Speaker 1: hat on in the last hour Joe Max Higgins, the

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Speaker 1: guy that was featured on sixty Minutes this weekend, a

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Speaker 1: guy that has figured out how to transcend the bureaucracy,

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Speaker 1: incentivized businesses to build in the Golden Triangle and Mrs

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Speaker 1: Sippi and he's creating thousands of jobs. If if we

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Speaker 1: were to duplicate that success, that paradigm, that model, and

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Speaker 1: take washing like, for example, if we're gonna spend one

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Speaker 1: trillion in infrastructure, how are we gonna pay for it?

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Speaker 1: Paul Ryan didn't answer that question. Sunday night, he was

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Speaker 1: asked that he just went right around it. Now, there

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Speaker 1: are ways to pay for things. I would prefer infrastructure

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Speaker 1: spend as you go and take it out of the hands.

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Speaker 1: With all due respect to you guys of your five

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Speaker 1: and thirty three other congressmen and senators that have agendas

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Speaker 1: that basically the top agenda being them being reelected. Am

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Speaker 1: I wrong? Well, that's right. Money's money's in the circle

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Speaker 1: there and it's running the city and everybody knows that.

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Speaker 1: And so the key is, can Trump set up some

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Speaker 1: new capital pool where the money goes directly to show

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Speaker 1: a ready job and bypasses the federal government network of

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Speaker 1: cronies right where we dolled out to our buddies and

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Speaker 1: the state senators or the U. S senators or whatever.

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Speaker 1: And that's the challenge going forward. I think he's up

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Speaker 1: to it. I mean, he's been brilliant so far on

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Speaker 1: the first few moves here. It's looking good, but that's everybody.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, the Democrats found the debt clock

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Speaker 1: hiding somewhere back in the closet, and the press of

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Speaker 1: the case and the Democrats are on our case, and

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Speaker 1: it's it's almost comical Congress were being held up to

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Speaker 1: all these standards and on ethics reform and and the

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Speaker 1: you know, the walling off Trump from his money after

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Speaker 1: the Clinton Foundation has two billion dollars and no press

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Speaker 1: reports at all. I watched Congressman Babman this morning. I

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Speaker 1: saw this article. Donald Trump tweeted out, the president that

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Speaker 1: tweeted out that he didn't want he wanted to cancel

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Speaker 1: the building of a brand new seven forty seven air

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Speaker 1: force one for future presidents because he said they were

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Speaker 1: going to spend four billion dollars. And he later spoke

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Speaker 1: to reporters and a Trump Tower saying the project is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: I think Boeing is doing a little bit of a number.

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Speaker 1: We want bowing to make a lot of money, but

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Speaker 1: not that much money, he said. They issued a statement

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Speaker 1: saying that the company is currently under contract for a

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy million to help determine the capabilities of

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Speaker 1: these complex military aircraft that served the unique requirements of

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Speaker 1: the President of the United States. Um, did we really

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Speaker 1: spend four billion dollars on an airplane? I mean, did

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Speaker 1: we really spend that much money? It certainly has the

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Speaker 1: appearance of that. Sehn and uh, you know, as far

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Speaker 1: as this is the man who when you're talking about Trump,

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Speaker 1: this is the man who's not even gonna take a salary. Uh.

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Speaker 1: These are the kinds of things that I believe show

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Speaker 1: a great example. He is determined to drain the swamp.

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Speaker 1: As Dave said, he has made some great appointments already

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Speaker 1: for his inner circle as far as his cabinet goes.

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Speaker 1: And we must, by all means, as as a body

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Speaker 1: in the converse, both House and Senate, support this man

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Speaker 1: and his agenda and push it through. Okay, So now

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Speaker 1: my next question Congress in babin are you getting the

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Speaker 1: any indication from Speaker Ryan who said on sixty Minutes

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Speaker 1: that he talks to Trump almost daily that Speaker Ryan

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Speaker 1: is also going to look at Trump's priorities not only

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Speaker 1: the things quote that are on his agenda. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: we have a Better Way agenda in the House and

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Speaker 1: Trump's got his agenda, and there's quite a bit of

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Speaker 1: overlap there. I mean, there's some really really good stuff.

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Speaker 1: And uh, when when right before the Speaker for our conference,

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Speaker 1: when we were gonna talk about leadership, I talked to

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Speaker 1: Speaker Ryan on the phone with a private conversation, I

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Speaker 1: ask him, white blank, are we going to a push?

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Speaker 1: Will will you be pushing the UH, the UH President

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Speaker 1: Alex agenda and he said he would. It really jives

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Speaker 1: with with our better way, And I really do agree

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Speaker 1: with that. With all that, Well, why do I think, why,

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Speaker 1: why does the suspicious side of me? And maybe I'm

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01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: too cynical. I've only been in radio now thirty years.

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01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I've seen too much, maybe I've become too

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01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 1: big a skeptic. But why do I think Donald Trump

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01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: better trust and verify and make sure the drain the

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01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 1: swamp part of the agenda, the building the wall part

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Speaker 1: of the agenda, the deportation part of the agenda. Why

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Speaker 1: do I think that has to be done up front? Well,

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01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: I agree with you a hundred percent. Were in the

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01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 1: We're in the process of negotiating this continuing a resolution

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01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:55,719
Speaker 1: and the proof is going to be in the pudding.

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01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 1: And if we can't stop the increase of the budgets

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Speaker 1: of our refugee program and riff in the immigration UH

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01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 1: money is being funded to UH to build new infrastructure

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01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:12,679
Speaker 1: and housing and moneys to spend on unaccompanied manners pouring

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Speaker 1: across the Texas border. Uh, these these are the things

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Speaker 1: that American's Americans stood up and had a revolution of

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Speaker 1: the ballot box to stop. Well, I just hope, I

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Speaker 1: I just hope. Look, apparently Ryan's gonna remain speaker. I

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Speaker 1: just hope that Ryan is cognitive of the fact that

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Speaker 1: Americans are fed up with the old way the Congress works,

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Speaker 1: and this is an opportunity to reform Congress, get rid

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Speaker 1: of the bureaucracy, drained the swamp, all those things that

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Speaker 1: we've been talking about. And if he's unwilling to do so,

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Speaker 1: then I guess, you know, maybe a Freedom Caucus member

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01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: will have to challenge him. But if he says he's

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Speaker 1: willing to follow through on it, I guess the proof,

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01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 1: as you said, will be in the pudding. But I

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01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 1: hate to rush you guys off. I wish we had

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01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 1: more time, but we don't. I appreciate you both being

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Speaker 1: with us. By the way, you both members of the

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01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 1: Freedom Caucus. Yes, yeah, absolutely so yeah. And on the

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Speaker 1: on the speaker vote, I did lay out my position

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01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: in news Max. If your folks want to google Bratt

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01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 1: and news yeah, you're not voting for Ryan, right making

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01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 1: you're not voting for Ryan. I I didn't last time,

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01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 1: and so far he has not met my criterion for

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01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: the vote yet and so and it's tied to what

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01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: you're talking about. I we need there are five bills

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01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 1: out of the House mandatory you verify strong Interior enforcement,

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01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 1: refugee program, Babin's Bill, asylum reform, and an end to

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01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 1: Central American unaccompanied mine. I gotta run. But you know,

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01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 1: it is interesting. The only people that will come on

1313
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 1: my show now are Freedom Caucus members. The only You're

1314
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 1: the only people. You're the only people that like me.

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01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 1: It's interesting. The other people won't come on anymore. All Right,

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01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: we love you, se alright, Sean, thank you for what

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01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 1: you do. I appreciate well. In fairness, Kevin McCarthy said

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01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 1: he'd come on the program when I talked to him

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01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 1: fairly recently before the election. When we come back, your calls,

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01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 1: your comments, your intuitive, God given insight, straight ahead. My

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01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 1: father thought it would be good for discipline reasons. That's

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01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 1: a pretty extreme thing to send your kid away to

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01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 1: upstate New York. What kind of discipline problems were you having? Well,

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01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: I was just somebody that was rebellious. Did you resent

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01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: your dad when he said you no? Not at all

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01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 1: I underst it. Did he sit you down and say

1327
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 1: here's why, Well, he said, I want to shape you up.

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01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 1: My understanding is business school was not your first choice. Well,

1329
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to be in a business that you're very

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01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 1: familiar with. I wanted to make motion pictures. I absolutely did.

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01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 1: I was gonna apply to USC. What was it about?

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01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's shocking. Why just what was it that

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01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 1: literally was going to make you break from what your

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01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 1: dad did and start a career and filmed? I just

1335
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 1: liked it. I always liked it. I liked the glamor

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01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 1: of movies. Freddie is standing in the middle there. He

1337
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: died at forty two, really from alcoholism. I've never had

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01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 1: a drink because of my brother. Does it worry you

1339
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 1: that you might have that gene something inside of you

1340
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 1: that if you took a drink um you wouldn't stop,

1341
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: you might turn into what happened to Fred? And does

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01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 1: scare you? Alright? That was from the Well, I guess

1343
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: you'd call it a documentary. It was called The Objectified

1344
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: about Donald Trump, And it was hosted by t MCS

1345
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,799
Speaker 1: Harvey Levin, and it was on the Fox News channel.

1346
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 1: And the ratings are in and it was a breakout, huge,

1347
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: massive hit, even beating many of the big networks. Harvey

1348
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: has been a long time friend, He joins us, Now,

1349
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 1: how are you. I'm good, How are you? I gotta

1350
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 1: tell you, first of all, I'm so proud of you.

1351
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 1: The special was just riveting. You know, I've interviewed Trump

1352
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 1: all of these times, but when you're in a campaign,

1353
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,640
Speaker 1: you don't have the time that to get into the

1354
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 1: nitty gritty of the person, like I was doing a

1355
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 1: lot of town halls. You did something that nobody else

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01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 1: in the media did in this campaign, and you showed

1357
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 1: a side of Trump that I think a lot of

1358
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 1: people didn't know. Yeah. I mean, look, the campaign was

1359
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: about issues and attacks, and there was very little room

1360
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 1: to get reflective on who somebody is. It was all

1361
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 1: about what they said that day. And what we set

1362
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 1: out to do was to say, let's ignore all of

1363
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 1: that and let's go back to, you know, from childhood

1364
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 1: on using objects in his life that means something to

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01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 1: him that he can kind of relate to and become

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01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: a touch point, and then kind of get to know

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01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 1: who the guy is that maybe will help you understand

1368
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 1: why he does what he does today, who he is today.

1369
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,719
Speaker 1: You know what got him here and that was really

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01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 1: the point of this, and you know, I hope it

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Speaker 1: gave that kind of insight. I mean it definitely did out.

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Speaker 1: I mean the stuff that you were talking about that

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01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:22,719
Speaker 1: we just played about him being sent off to boarding

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01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 1: school to shape up by his father, I mean, that

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01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 1: was a big part of his life, his brother dying

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01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,679
Speaker 1: at forty two. I thought his answer about not wanting

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01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: to beat himself and if somebody beats him, that's fine,

1378
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 1: but he doesn't want to beat himself show as a

1379
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 1: winning attitude. There's so much I got out of this,

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01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 1: uh and a very you know what his guard was down.

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01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 1: That's what I felt. That's the thing, Sean. And you

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01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 1: know him really well, and I gotta tell you, I

1383
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 1: mean I think you know him better than me, but

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01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 1: I do know him. And especially during the campaign, you know,

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01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 1: Donald Trump rarely would show weakness and I'm not saying

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01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 1: this is weakness, or he would rarely show vulnerability. And

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01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 1: I didn't know going into this. You know, everybody has

1388
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 1: weak points to their characters, strong points they're vulnerable, and

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01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know if he was so pre programmed to

1390
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 1: not showing any of that that I could get anything.

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01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I knew I wanted to try, and I

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01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 1: knew where I wanted to go, but I was a

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01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: little bit surprised at how much he opened up. How

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01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: well did you know him before this? And by the way,

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01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 1: what was I watched even some of your coverage on TMZ.

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Speaker 1: I love. By the way, your show is the funniest

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01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:28,600
Speaker 1: show on TV. I want to talk about that in

1398
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 1: a second. It is the modern day reality show meets camera,

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01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 1: candid camera moment every day and it's hilarious. But well,

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01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 1: thank you. Did you have a relationship, because that that's

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01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 1: what I wanted to know. I knew him, you know,

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01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: over the years, but I knew him as you know,

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01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: as a reality TV star and businessman, and we would

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01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 1: cover things from time to time, and you know, I

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01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 1: would talk to him in the phone occasionally and we

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01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 1: had a friendly relationship. But yeah, I mean that was

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01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 1: kind of it. Yeah, because look, I mean, Hollywood's not

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01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 1: exactly the business out there in Los Angeles known as

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01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: a conservative bastion. And but I didn't feel you at

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01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 1: any political motivation at all. As a matter of fact,

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01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 1: that somebody who was supporting Trump very openly. I I

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Speaker 1: had wished that that aired before the election. It was.

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01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 1: It was as you said, it was reflective. He let

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Speaker 1: his guard down. He was in a way I felt

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01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 1: the vulnerability he would not give me. Yeah, And I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: I haven't really talked about this, but we asked I

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01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 1: talked about a little bit, but we asked Hillary Clinton

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01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 1: as well to do it and she declined. And after

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01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 1: we shot it, we kind of collectively said, look, we

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01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 1: don't want to do this to influence the election. It

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01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 1: wasn't meant to be a partisan thing, and we chose

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01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 1: not to air it. And you know, I didn't do

1423
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 1: this to get him votes, to make him lose votes.

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01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: I did it because I really wanted to get this

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01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 1: thing I want. I wanted to kind of understand who

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01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 1: he was. But when we kind of looked at what

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01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 1: we had, we thought, you know what, this really does

1428
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 1: show a dimension, and we don't want to do this

1429
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 1: as a partisan thing, and we shelved it. And you know,

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01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 1: when he won, it became a different situation because now

1431
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 1: it's not about at him winning or losing an election.

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01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 1: It's about understanding who the president is. And it just

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01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 1: made more sense. Yeah, but I think you you got

1434
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 1: a lot out of him that nobody else saw. You know,

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01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 1: It's funny. His approval rating today is up nine points

1436
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 1: from election day. And I think like we saw him

1437
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 1: meet with Mitt Romney. Mitt Romney called him a fraud

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01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 1: and a huckster. Um. He's meeting today with the heads

1439
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 1: of networks he met earlier today, you know, with that

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01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 1: they had a CNN, Jeff zucker and and Phil Griffith

1441
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: from MSNBC. These were networks pretty much dedicated to defeating him.

1442
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:34,679
Speaker 1: From my perspective, Well, he that's his clear view. And

1443
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 1: you know I would love to have been a fly

1444
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 1: on the wall too with zucker especially me too. I wish,

1445
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 1: by the way, I wish the TMZ cameras were there. Yeah,

1446
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 1: me too, by the way. You know what I'm really

1447
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 1: thankful for in my life that because I don't go

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01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:51,799
Speaker 1: out a whole lot, I've never had a TMZ camera

1449
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 1: in my face ever ever, Because you catch all these

1450
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 1: people coming out of restaurants in Hollywood. Is the funniest

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01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen. It's not it's it's no. They're

1452
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,759
Speaker 1: always nice, that's the thing. And the dope be actors

1453
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 1: and actresses that they just say, hey, Harvey, how are

1454
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 1: you Hi, tam Z. But they're so stupid. They get

1455
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: so uptight and like the then the security guards come

1456
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 1: around and a fight breaks out. It's hilarious. We we

1457
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 1: got to get you to Medeo in l A. Because

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01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 1: you would be awesome to be on the show. I

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01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 1: love that. Oh that's where I need to go to

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01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,679
Speaker 1: Medeo in Los Angeles. That's really a great place for Hannity.

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01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I've never heard the place, Harvey. Okay,

1462
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 1: I'll give you the list before you come out here.

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01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 1: But whatever the list is, the list that means I'm

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01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 1: going to roots Chris Steakhouse. That's what the list will

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01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 1: do for me. Okay, Well, if that's your place, we're there.

1466
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 1: But I love to get you in the show. Listen,

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01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 1: I do your show anytime. You're a friend. Well, let

1468
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 1: me ask you this is a personal question, and I'm

1469
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 1: not Look, you've got a job that's very different than

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01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 1: my job. You don't give opinions, and I don't want

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01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 1: to ask you what your political views are because I

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01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 1: don't even think it's fair. I just love the special

1473
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 1: and you've got a lot out of him that I

1474
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 1: don't think anybody else could have in a way that

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01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 1: nobody else had. So I guess my question to you

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01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:03,919
Speaker 1: is how differently did you feel about him after that interview,

1477
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 1: which was very personal. I Mean, the truth is, this

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Speaker 1: is more than Donald Trump I've known over the years,

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Speaker 1: than the guy who we've seen over the last sixteen months.

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Speaker 1: That when you I went back there three or four

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Speaker 1: times before we actually shot it, and I was in

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Speaker 1: the building and we were, you know, getting setting this

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Speaker 1: thing up and everything, and you know, you talked to

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Speaker 1: an elevator operator or somebody who works on his staff,

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Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, housekeepers or whatever, and they've

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Speaker 1: been there for a long time, and they really like

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Speaker 1: him as a person. I mean, that's one of the

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Speaker 1: things that really struck me that there. You know a

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Speaker 1: lot of a lot of times you can kind of

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Speaker 1: really get to know somebody or know who they are

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Speaker 1: by you know, how they deal with you know, the

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Speaker 1: elevator guy or whatever. And they like him. They love

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Speaker 1: they actually love him, because I've been over to Trump

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Speaker 1: Tower interview on him a bunch. They love their boss,

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Speaker 1: and and so you got to think, Okay, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: You've got a guy who can be really pull rising,

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Speaker 1: you know on stage. You know, there's that's not the

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Speaker 1: way he could possibly be with all these people in

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Speaker 1: that building. And almost in fact, to a person, they

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Speaker 1: were all just like volunteering how much they liked him

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Speaker 1: and the family. And so look, what I've known over

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Speaker 1: the years is this guy who can be funny in

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Speaker 1: the phone, and he can be you know, insightful, and

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01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 1: but I also love you know something though, Harvey, this

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Speaker 1: is the world in the environment of politics today. He

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Speaker 1: did not plan, obviously his entire life to be to

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Speaker 1: run for president, because if you're planning to run for president,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna go on Howard Sterns show, are Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, And he wasn't given scripted phony political answers.

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Speaker 1: He he looks and he even told me I wasn't

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Speaker 1: that into politics, you know, And and so he was.

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Speaker 1: He sort of was finding his gut and his instincts,

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Speaker 1: which I think are naturally conservative, and then fine tuning

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Speaker 1: it over a lifetime of dealing with government bureaucracy. And

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01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 1: he realized, hey, you know, look at all these people

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Speaker 1: that are getting screwed over by government. Look at all

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01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 1: these jobs we could be created if we do a

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Speaker 1: b and c You know, I think what you said

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Speaker 1: is central to how he's going to do because the

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Speaker 1: one thing I think everybody acknowledges is he's not this

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Speaker 1: political animal who calculates everything he says and does. And

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Speaker 1: I think to me at least, that's one of the

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Speaker 1: key reasons for his success. Now, the question is how

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Speaker 1: does he channel that because it tends to be, you know,

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Speaker 1: because it's less calculating, it's got to really be well

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Speaker 1: thought out. And I think that's the question is that,

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Speaker 1: you know, when you become president, obviously you make decisions

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Speaker 1: that you've never had to deal with before. And the

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Speaker 1: good part of that is he's not this calculating guy.

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Speaker 1: Now the question is how is he going to channel it?

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Speaker 1: How is he going to you know, absorb all of

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Speaker 1: this and and and then turn it into policy. And

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Speaker 1: I think we just got to see, don't don't you

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Speaker 1: think the early signs are Look, I even tweeted out

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Speaker 1: earlier today, I couldn't be that gracious or mcnanymous and

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Speaker 1: invite Mint Romney and the heads of networks that want

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Speaker 1: at me to get crushed. I don't know if I'd

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Speaker 1: be that gracious. I think that is probably a part

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Speaker 1: of him that really, I guess, sees that the country

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Speaker 1: is really divided, as a poll out today that shows

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01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 1: it's more divided than has ever been, and that he

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Speaker 1: wants to bring the country back together. And I think

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Speaker 1: he's he's reaping the benefits of reaching out to even

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01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,719
Speaker 1: the people that hated him the most. I think that's true.

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Speaker 1: That said, I will tell you I have problems with

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Speaker 1: a couple of the people he's appointed. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not as you know, I'm not going to, you know,

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Speaker 1: say this is going to be fantastic. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Um I I do have some problems just in terms

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Speaker 1: of views and ultimately, I mean, the good part is

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Speaker 1: is that I think he keeps his own counsel to

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Speaker 1: some extent. But I am a little worried about a

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Speaker 1: couple of the people. It's bofesome to me. I don't

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Speaker 1: like people who I believe, you know, make overtly anti

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Speaker 1: Semitic remarks. I don't like, you know, the idea of

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Speaker 1: being a gay man. I don't like the idea that

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Speaker 1: there is some intolerance. But I can tell you on

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Speaker 1: both of those issues. You know, look at the people

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Speaker 1: that have come to Steve Bannon's to fence even guys

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Speaker 1: like Alan Dershwitz and Joel Pollock, very prominent Jewish Americans.

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Speaker 1: I got to tell you, yeah, but but but I

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Speaker 1: don't know what quote you're referring to. But I have

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Speaker 1: not seen a direct quote from him. I've heard there's

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Speaker 1: a speech that he gave that he talked at length

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Speaker 1: about his support of Judeo Christian values. And I think

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is probably like me and most conservatives in

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Speaker 1: the country, where I'm fairly libertarian. Why do I care

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Speaker 1: what other people do. That's not that's none of my business. Well,

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Speaker 1: and that's what I'm saying that when I say he

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Speaker 1: keeps his own counsel, I'm just being really honest with you.

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Speaker 1: They're there are a couple that bother me. But I

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Speaker 1: do think it's funny because I do see him more

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Speaker 1: as a libertarian and and he's He's always struck me

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Speaker 1: as the kind of guy where it's like, if you're

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Speaker 1: not hurting somebody else, you know, go live your life.

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of the way I've always thought of him,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's accurate. I think, and by the way,

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Speaker 1: I think most Americans are that way, even strong conservatives

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Speaker 1: like me. You know what, we're all Americans here. We

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Speaker 1: need jobs, we need to protect the homeland, and we

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Speaker 1: need to keep the world safe. That's what we gotta

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Speaker 1: to me. It's really that simple. Yeah, I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: and I do think that's been his compass and you know,

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Speaker 1: and look, we'll see, you know, I think every here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. And I think you're right where all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden you see his poll numbers go up. I

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Speaker 1: do think that people are you know, they're they're looking at,

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Speaker 1: you know, a guy who at least seems to not

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Speaker 1: be poisoned by politics, because that's been the big complaint

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Speaker 1: about Washington is that people are just so poisoned by it.

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Speaker 1: They lose their humanity, they lose you know, emotion, and

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01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:36,680
Speaker 1: it all becomes you know, am I going to gain

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01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 1: votes or lose votes? And I think a lot of

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01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 1: people are saying that's not him and that's a good thing.

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01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 1: But now the issue is what does he do? And

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01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 1: I think time is going to tell that. Listen, I

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01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 1: want to work out. I want them to hold him

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Speaker 1: to his promises. I want him to take on radical Islam.

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Speaker 1: I think we've got a vet refugees from countries speaking

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Speaker 1: of gays and lesbians where they kill them, and that

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01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 1: women are treated horribly and told how to dress and

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01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 1: told they can't try. We're told if they can go

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Speaker 1: to school of work where Christians and Jews are persecuted.

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Speaker 1: So I think we gotta That's why I support extreme vetting.

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Speaker 1: I think if he builds the wall, if he follows

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Speaker 1: through his economic growth plan, uh, free market, healthcare, savings accounts,

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01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 1: energy independence, education back to the States, I think the

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01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:19,680
Speaker 1: country is going to be infinitely better off because I

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01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 1: believe those ideas work. I think Kennedy and Reagan both

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01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 1: proved it. Yeah, I mean, look again, you know the

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01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 1: way this this happens. And it's like, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: funny because my training is in law, and I look

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01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 1: at you know, some Supreme Court justices where presidents were

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01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 1: so sure that they were going to do one thing

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01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 1: and they go a completely different way. It's always kind

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Speaker 1: have been tempered by that. I mean I look at

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Speaker 1: Earl Warren and I and and and and D Suitor. Yeah,

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01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 1: and you just you just never know until they assumed

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Speaker 1: the office. Congratulations, the ratings were massive, and that was

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Speaker 1: great to have you on Fox News and we hope

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Speaker 1: you'll do more. I really and Sean thank you so

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01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 1: much for all your support. Word in Thish you bet

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Speaker 1: I was. I thought it was spectacular, loved it, really

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Speaker 1: appreciate it all right, my friend, thank you