WEBVTT - Newsom’s Posting Through It

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<v Speaker 1>Al Zon Media.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, it could happen here. It's me, it's Robert,

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<v Speaker 2>and we are gathered here today to talk about one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most annoying things that can happen on your telephone,

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<v Speaker 2>which is that you can be sent a tweet from

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<v Speaker 2>Gavin Newsom.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is just no one needed that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's already really bad. I see really bad things on

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<v Speaker 2>my telephone every day. I don't need to see a

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<v Speaker 2>tweet from Gavin Newsom. If you're not familiar with this,

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<v Speaker 2>you're living a better life than me, and I'm proud

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<v Speaker 2>of you. But I'm going to give you some context

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<v Speaker 2>here for those of you who are not familiar. Gavin

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<v Speaker 2>Newsom is the governor of California. He's also kind of

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<v Speaker 2>been the presumptive of twenty twenty eight Democratic candidate for

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<v Speaker 2>quite a while. He's term limited out running for California

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<v Speaker 2>governor again, so he won't be doing that, and his

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<v Speaker 2>term will end in January of twenty twenty seven. He

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<v Speaker 2>had for a while to I to dismiss claims that

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<v Speaker 2>he was interested in the presidency, but he's been a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more of about it recently. Yeh, I don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>any claims that he was not interested in this for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. He has definitely tried to cast himself

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<v Speaker 2>this summer as the sort of leader of the resistance

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<v Speaker 2>type figure. Yeah, he hasn't done that by, for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>ordering the California National Guard to go home, protecting people

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<v Speaker 2>from the massmen with guns snatching them in the street,

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<v Speaker 2>or even standing up for trans kids. Instead, he has

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<v Speaker 2>focused on I guess what you could generously call Twitter trolling,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's well, we're going to get into it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>extremely annoying. So about a week ago now, I think

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<v Speaker 2>the eleventh of August was when he began newso began

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<v Speaker 2>his social media rebrand. He did this by posting about

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<v Speaker 2>himself in all caps as America's favorite governor. His posts

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<v Speaker 2>since then have mimicked the mc donald. Trump has a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty distinctive posting style, right, Yeah, Newsom's have written in

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<v Speaker 2>all caps. Trump doesn't tend to do. Trump tends to

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<v Speaker 2>capitalize sporadically and as far as I can tell, entirely randomly.

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<v Speaker 2>But Newsom's doing it in all caps. He uses over

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<v Speaker 2>uses exclamation marks. I should say, this beef between the

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<v Speaker 2>two of them is not new right. Trump has has

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<v Speaker 2>called him new scum on true social and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think Trump can claim the intellectual property to new scum.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen that one. Yeah, yeah, like it's up there

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<v Speaker 2>with like hair Gel, Hitler and Ussolini. Like yeah, anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>if you if you're buying a firearm in California, you

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<v Speaker 2>will hear someone say one of these things almost without fail.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The claim that Newsom's team is making is that he's

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<v Speaker 2>like holding up a mirror to Trump's bigot treaty by

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<v Speaker 2>doing this Trump style posting. But I think in doing so,

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<v Speaker 2>he's really illustrated the difference between them is not as

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<v Speaker 2>profound as you'd think or hope. He in one example

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<v Speaker 2>called Scott Presler Nancy Mace. It's got Presler, gay conservative

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<v Speaker 2>right wing figure, and then he was called out for

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<v Speaker 2>missed gendering presla Bay. This will shock and amaze you

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<v Speaker 2>Tommy Lauren.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which yeah, no one knows, Okay, Yeah, he responded, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>you sound woke. This really isn't funny. It's just bigotry,

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<v Speaker 2>Like comparing gay men to women is an old, worn

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<v Speaker 2>out and lazy jab.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you combine this with him having right wing

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<v Speaker 2>figures like Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon on his.

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<v Speaker 4>Podcast and it just for reference, folks. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>how much detail we can get into legally here, but

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<v Speaker 4>this being our business, we are aware of the numbers

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<v Speaker 4>different podcasts do. And Gavin Newsom's podcast is not like

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<v Speaker 4>it does. Okay, but there's certain podcasts about, for example,

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<v Speaker 4>bad people in history that lap at several times. So

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<v Speaker 4>like the star power that Gavin Newsom has, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>seeing it. We're not talking about a guy who has

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<v Speaker 4>shown evidence that he is capable of on his own

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<v Speaker 4>generating like a super loyal fan base or continued interest

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<v Speaker 4>in his personality. Now I'm not saying that's that on

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<v Speaker 4>its own. Is it's a bad thing. A lot of

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<v Speaker 4>politicians who are very competent at certain things are not

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<v Speaker 4>competent at that, And in fact, most of the worst

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<v Speaker 4>politicians we have are also the people who are the

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<v Speaker 4>best at that and building a fan.

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<v Speaker 3>Base, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 4>But what I'm saying is that Gavin Newsom is obsessed

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<v Speaker 4>with doing something, being this Trumpian populist figure that he

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<v Speaker 4>has not exhibited faculty for right. Yes, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 4>And that's what I'm saying too.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a he's confusing engagement with actual political action, right.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's confusing the kind of engagement that you get

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<v Speaker 4>on social media when it's someone else's algorithm, And a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of the engagement is like, not people who are

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<v Speaker 4>going to vote for you or support you, but people

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<v Speaker 4>who the algorithm is pushing your content to because it

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<v Speaker 4>knows they'll get pissed off off by it, right, exactly

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<v Speaker 4>that I'm not against you know, pissing off conservatives, but

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<v Speaker 4>that doesn't help you necessarily, right, Like, there's not a

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<v Speaker 4>clear benefit to us in this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good things piss off conservatives, but pissing off conservatives

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<v Speaker 2>and not inherently a good to a useful thing. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not enough, right, Like, I again, it can be.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sometimes that's necessary just for morale purposes alone.

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<v Speaker 4>But again, I don't really think Gavin Newsom is making

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<v Speaker 4>the right scared. I don't think he's breaking their morale.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's just kind of creating content that people

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<v Speaker 4>on the left are sharing because it pisses them off.

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<v Speaker 4>People on the right are sharing because it makes them laugh.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they think it's sad more than anything else.

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<v Speaker 4>And obviously You've got a chunk of like a decent

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<v Speaker 4>chunk of like centrist dim types who like Newsome, and

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<v Speaker 4>I guess maybe it's working for some of them, but

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it's broadening his support. I think there's

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<v Speaker 4>a single voter, especially in a swing state, who was,

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<v Speaker 4>like I wasn't wasn't going to vote for Gavin Newsom

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<v Speaker 4>until I saw him mimicking Donald Trump's tweets.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly like he is doing, in a sense what

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<v Speaker 2>Harris did, which is this consistently failed Democrat political strategy

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<v Speaker 2>that they seem so addicted to that no amount of

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<v Speaker 2>losing will break them of it, which is moving to

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<v Speaker 2>the right to try and capture moderate Republicans. Right, They've

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<v Speaker 2>done this. Everything's Trump took the Republican Party closer closer

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<v Speaker 2>to fascism, right. Like, I want to give an example

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<v Speaker 2>of this, his Gavin Uson talking to Sean Ryan about

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<v Speaker 2>transgender athletes.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll be cannon with you. I looked at that issue

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<v Speaker 5>and I said, boy, they're just exploiting this. It's a

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<v Speaker 5>handful of people. What the hell is this? It's been weaponized.

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<v Speaker 5>It was just another cultural issue. Intel two years ago,

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<v Speaker 5>there was a state track championship. We had a trans

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<v Speaker 5>athlete that was successful and there was a video of

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<v Speaker 5>the girl that lost and she was devastated. Video one

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<v Speaker 5>around everywhere and it was very emotional. I was very real.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember calling my team man, I said, this is legit,

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<v Speaker 5>and I did this podcast with Charlie Kirk. Unsurprisingly, he

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<v Speaker 5>brought it up and he said, tell me, that's not fair.

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<v Speaker 5>I said, it's not fair. You're right. My party was pissed.

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<v Speaker 5>LGBTQCCUS furious with me because I don't think it's fair.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not.

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<v Speaker 5>But because you oppose sports doesn't make you homophobic, and

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<v Speaker 5>my party needs to stop saying that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah again, I know who he thinks this is going

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<v Speaker 4>to help. He believes it's a religion. Effectively, among a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of establishment dims that there's a whole huge chunk

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<v Speaker 4>of voters who are just itching to vote for a

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<v Speaker 4>Democrat if they weren't in favor of all of these

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<v Speaker 4>icky cultural issues that are hard to touch that the

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<v Speaker 4>right is. You know, it spends so much time harping on,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think part of what they're seeing and where

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of the logical disconnect comes into effect, is

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<v Speaker 4>that they see how much money conservatives and time and

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<v Speaker 4>discourse conservatives spend talking about this and obsessing over it,

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<v Speaker 4>and they believe, well, oh, if we if we just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of fold on these people, then we've taken this

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<v Speaker 4>great weapon out of their arsenal, and they'll be helpless

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<v Speaker 4>because they're stupid. And I don't think these are fundamentally

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<v Speaker 4>very smart people in the political sense of the world.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they bad politicians. I think they're bad. I

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<v Speaker 4>think they were good politicians in terms of a competency

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<v Speaker 4>sense at a prior age to get to where they were,

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<v Speaker 4>But the ground has changed, and intelligence is largely a

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<v Speaker 4>product of adaptability, and they have not proven adaptable. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think what's actually going to happen, because we've seen

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<v Speaker 4>this is if they throw trans people under the bus,

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<v Speaker 4>as they're actively talking about doing, the right will grab

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<v Speaker 4>another chunk of their coalition and start ruthlessly trying to

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<v Speaker 4>destroy that group of people, and these people's suggestion will

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<v Speaker 4>once again be Okay, well, we got to, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>throw those people under the bus, because then we'll deny

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<v Speaker 4>them that weapon, and eventually you won't have any Democrats left,

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<v Speaker 4>Like yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, they'll come after same sex marriage. I'll come after

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<v Speaker 2>fucking interracial marriage, and Newsom will try and find the middle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like where he has received praise for this is in

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<v Speaker 2>the legacy media. I want to quote here from a

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<v Speaker 2>caw Matter's op ed, which suggests that Newsom was quote

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<v Speaker 2>someone trying to hold space for a hard conversation in

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<v Speaker 2>his podcast, He's not.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't have conversations with Charlie Kirk. He's never had

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<v Speaker 4>a real one in his life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the conversation is not hard to have, right, trans

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<v Speaker 2>people deserve the same fucking rights as everyone else. It's

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<v Speaker 2>very easy to have. Also, he's having this conversation with

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<v Speaker 2>someone who agrees with him, Like, I would love to

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<v Speaker 2>see him tell a young trans woman that she can't

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<v Speaker 2>play on the fucking third string the high school volleyball team,

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<v Speaker 2>because then he's going to see a kid cry too.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go over the like trans people

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<v Speaker 2>can compete sports, like I've made my living as an

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<v Speaker 2>athlete for much of my life. This is bullshit, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's fundamentally disrespectful to women athletes to continue to suggest

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<v Speaker 2>it they're biologically inferior. But I do want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>more about Gavin you some slide into mean politics. His

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<v Speaker 2>press office claimed that after the fires in LA the

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<v Speaker 2>claim this in New York Times in a piece of

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<v Speaker 2>our link, he was troubled by the misinformation that came out.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently was his first fucking time in encountering misinformation on

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<v Speaker 2>the internet.

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<v Speaker 3>Like oh wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, when you think about the ease with which

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<v Speaker 2>he lies, right, yeah, absolute comfort he has bullshitting It

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<v Speaker 2>sort of makes sense until it hits him. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>care because he's lying too. So they decided to take

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<v Speaker 2>the fight to the internet. I guess they began with

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<v Speaker 2>Star Wars memes. And then when the redistricting debate in Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>we've covered extensively on executive disorder, was kind of reaching

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<v Speaker 2>his peak. Newsom sort of begun this. I know you are,

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<v Speaker 2>you said you are, but what am I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>tendency in his posting, he posted in all block capitals,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to shout Donald Trump. If you do

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<v Speaker 2>not stand down, we will be forced to leave an

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<v Speaker 2>effort to redraw the maps in CAA to offset the

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<v Speaker 2>rigging of maps in red states. But if the other

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<v Speaker 2>states call off their redistricting efforts, we will do the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for your attention on this match. Sorry, it's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to read because it's entirely unpunctuated apart from at

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<v Speaker 2>the end there these tweets aren't on his personal account

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<v Speaker 2>or the official governor of California one. They're on an

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<v Speaker 2>account called governor use some press office. But that count

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<v Speaker 2>does have their little gray tick mark that you can

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<v Speaker 2>get in Twitter now for like government accounts. Then he

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<v Speaker 2>moved on to AI generated images and signing his post

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<v Speaker 2>with initials like Trump does, claiming Kid Rock had endorsed him,

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<v Speaker 2>which isn't true. Incidentally, they did this exactly a year

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<v Speaker 2>after Donald Trump posted an AI generated image of Taylor

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<v Speaker 2>Swift with the Swifties for Trump montage, which shows how

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<v Speaker 2>much time they spend looking at Trump's post rather than

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<v Speaker 2>doing anything fucking useful. Then they moved onto mocking Greg

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<v Speaker 2>Abbott for using a wheelchair, saying he rolled over for

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<v Speaker 2>Trump again, like, you do not build a political coalition

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<v Speaker 2>by mocking people with disabilities. There are a million things

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<v Speaker 2>to fucking hate Greg Abbot, for I could spend an

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<v Speaker 2>hour talking about the loathsome shit that he has done,

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<v Speaker 2>but using a wheelchair is not one of those things.

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<v Speaker 2>If you cannot find anything else that really shows a

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<v Speaker 2>paucity of democratic politics. Right now, let's take a break

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll come back.

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<v Speaker 3>Awesome, All right, we're back.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, and probably predictively, Newsom has received praise from all

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<v Speaker 2>over the legacy and media for these posts. The NYT quoted,

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually unclear of they quoted. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>this was just a mistake that they haven't corrected. But

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<v Speaker 2>it was phrased like she said it directly, but it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't in quotation marks, so I'm a little clear. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just going to assume they quoted this.

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<v Speaker 6>Lady.

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah Roberts, a director for the Center of Critical Internet

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<v Speaker 2>Inquiry UCLA, said quote, mister Nuisan's posts are perhaps grabbing

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<v Speaker 2>so much attention because they stand out for the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of Democratic party's ineffective approach of playing its safe and

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<v Speaker 2>proceeding as if it's business as usual. And then just

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<v Speaker 2>to double down on this useful podcast idiot John Favreau

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<v Speaker 2>tweeted quote, I mean it's pretty clearly a parody of

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's absolutely insane, all caps off to nonsensical posts. Probably

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<v Speaker 2>while all the people in my life you aren't political junkies,

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<v Speaker 2>keep reaching out to say they don't know much about Newsom,

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<v Speaker 2>but think the tweets are hilarious, humor and mockery can

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<v Speaker 2>be quite effective. Neither of them say what they are

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<v Speaker 2>effective for. Right, No one seems concerned that these make

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<v Speaker 2>no material difference, and he is doing them instead of

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<v Speaker 2>doing things that make material difference.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to play another clip from Chris Hayes here

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<v Speaker 2>off you.

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<v Speaker 7>Governor Gavin Newsom and his team have figured out a

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<v Speaker 7>very entertaining way to deal with Donald trumpet As a

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<v Speaker 7>rhetorical level, They've got a new social media strategy that

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<v Speaker 7>is both I got to say, pretty damn funny and

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<v Speaker 7>I think extremely effective, mocking the president with a spot

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<v Speaker 7>on impression of his very weird communication stock. Since Newsom

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<v Speaker 7>jumped into the ongoing redistricting fight, his official Twitter account

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<v Speaker 7>has been posting Trump style. Donald has finished, he is

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<v Speaker 7>no longer hot. First the hand so tiny, and now

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<v Speaker 7>me Gavin C. Newson have taken away his step. Many

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<v Speaker 7>are saying, we can't even do the big stairs on

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<v Speaker 7>Air Force one anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>Uses the little baby stairs now sad as.

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<v Speaker 7>All the Trump trademarks, all capital letters, random quotation marks,

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<v Speaker 7>little parentheticals, complete unhinged absurdity.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought that was a good one.

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<v Speaker 7>I hate Kid Rock GCN reference to Trump's infamous I

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<v Speaker 7>hate Taylor Swift, another drags a vice president to it.

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<v Speaker 7>Not even JD just Dance Vans can save Trump from

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<v Speaker 7>the disastrous maps war he has started. Not even his

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<v Speaker 7>eyeliner lines look as pretty as California map lines.

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<v Speaker 6>He will fail as he always does.

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<v Speaker 7>Sad and I, the peacetime governor of our nation's favorite,

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<v Speaker 7>will save America once again. Many are now calling me

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<v Speaker 7>Gavin Christopher Columbus Newsom because of the maps. Thank you

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<v Speaker 7>for your attention to this matter. Beyond the mockery of

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<v Speaker 7>Trump's text post, Newsom has also been posting Trump style

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<v Speaker 7>AI generated images of himself, including this I think absolute

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<v Speaker 7>masterpiece of Newsom, deep in a moment of reflection or

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<v Speaker 7>prayer bank by three Maga icons and the laying of

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<v Speaker 7>hands Kid Rock, who he hates, Tucker Carlson, and the

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<v Speaker 7>angelic spirit of the recently departed Hulk Hogan again a

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<v Speaker 7>spot on mockery of Trump, who isn't doing any of

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<v Speaker 7>this satirically. What has been equally hilarious has been to

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<v Speaker 7>watch the joke just go soaring over the heads of

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<v Speaker 7>Trump's sick of fants in the.

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<v Speaker 6>Media for the last week.

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<v Speaker 8>Gavin Newsom, and why am I giving him advice? You

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<v Speaker 8>had to stop it with the Twitter thing. I don't

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<v Speaker 8>know where his wife is. I want his wife. I

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<v Speaker 8>would say, you are making a fool of yourself. Stop it,

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<v Speaker 8>Do not let your staff tweet. And if you're doing

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<v Speaker 8>it yourself, put the phone away and start over. And

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<v Speaker 8>if you want. He's got a big job as governor

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<v Speaker 8>of California, but if he wants an even bigger job,

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<v Speaker 8>he has to be a little bit more serious.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, right, be more serious.

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<v Speaker 7>Stop posting exactly like the president the United States does.

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<v Speaker 7>Newsome's account responded to that advice quote, Dana ding Dong

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<v Speaker 7>Pirino never heard of her till today is melting down.

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<v Speaker 6>Because of me. God and C. Newsom.

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<v Speaker 7>Fox hate that I am America's most favorite governor ratings

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<v Speaker 7>King saving America. Trump has lost his step and Fox

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<v Speaker 7>is losing it because when I'm type American that wins.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you for your attention this matter again. It is

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<v Speaker 7>just it is a stark reminder with someone else doing

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<v Speaker 7>it of how truly utterly deranged our current president sounds

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<v Speaker 7>whenever he communicates and also how accustomed we've all become

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<v Speaker 7>to this very very weird behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, we wouldn't be talking about this suse he

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<v Speaker 2>was just bad tweets, Right, We're talking about it because

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<v Speaker 2>I think he shows a fundamental inability of the DNC

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<v Speaker 2>to meet the moment right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're talking about it because people are dying and

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<v Speaker 4>more people will die as a result of this administration's policies.

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<v Speaker 4>Other people are being imprisoned, and like I, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the damage being done you know, to medical science, to

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<v Speaker 4>the future of humanity, to the future of this country

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<v Speaker 4>is tremendous and escalating. And the fact that like this

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<v Speaker 4>is the best a major a major contender for the

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<v Speaker 4>Democratic presidential candidate in twenty twenty eight has been able

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<v Speaker 4>to pull.

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<v Speaker 3>Out so far, is like terrifying.

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<v Speaker 4>And again, obviously no one should be reliant upon the dims.

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<v Speaker 3>But unfortunately also like what are you got to do?

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<v Speaker 3>What am I going to do? Right?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have the resources of the Democratic Party, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't have a bunch of elected leaders listening to me. Like,

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<v Speaker 4>because of the status of our situation, individual people in

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<v Speaker 4>small groups and towns, and you know, we talk about

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<v Speaker 4>mutual aid on this show we talk about unions. All

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<v Speaker 4>of these increased personal resiliency. They increase the ability of

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<v Speaker 4>groups and of individuals within groups to be resilient. But

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<v Speaker 4>none of that is going to stop the fucking DHS

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<v Speaker 4>from turning into the SS. Right, Yeah, and the Democratic

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<v Speaker 4>Party clearly fucking isn't either. But the fact that this

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<v Speaker 4>is what they're doing instead of effective resistance is I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it's important. I wish there was more to say than

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<v Speaker 4>we should know how badly they're failing.

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<v Speaker 2>Us, right, Yeah, like a world where Democrat gets elected

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty eight, it's getting less awful less quickly,

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<v Speaker 2>and we should want yes, right, Like, I'm not one

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<v Speaker 2>of these Like acceleration is no.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I don't think that's going to help either.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, right, look right now, it is accelerating, and

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<v Speaker 2>it is bad. There are so many obvious challenges Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>can make. And I want to play Robert, have you

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<v Speaker 2>seen this Graham Planter for Senate campaign?

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<v Speaker 3>Ad? No, may not?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm going to play this for you, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's it's good as a contrast, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But I love most about many of the people I

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<v Speaker 1>have never met, people who are more hard scrabble, even

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<v Speaker 1>in a place that requires you to work like two

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<v Speaker 1>or three different jobs. We have watched this state become

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<v Speaker 1>essentially unlivable for working class people, and it makes me

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<v Speaker 1>deeply angry. My name is Graham Plattner, and I'm running

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<v Speaker 1>for US Senate and Maine to defeat Susan Collins. A

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<v Speaker 1>decade of military service, going overseas, farming oysters to feed

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<v Speaker 1>my community, diving to lend a hand to other fishermen,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to start a family. But everywhere I've gone, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like the fabric of what holds us together is

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<v Speaker 1>being ripped apart by billionaires and corrupt politicians profiting off

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<v Speaker 1>of destroying our environment, driving our families into poverty, and

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<v Speaker 1>crushing the middle class. I did four infantry tours in

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<v Speaker 1>the Marine Corps in the Army. I'm not afraid to

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<v Speaker 1>name an enemy, and the enemy is the oligarchy. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the billionaires who pay for it, the politicians who sell

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<v Speaker 1>us out. And yeah, that means politicians like Susan Collins.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not fooled by this fake charade of Collins deliberations

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<v Speaker 1>and moderation. The difference between Susan Collins and Ted Cruz

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<v Speaker 1>is at least Ted Cruz is honest about selling us

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<v Speaker 1>out and not giving a damn. People know that the

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<v Speaker 1>system is screwing them. They know it in their bones.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody I know around here can afford a house. Healthcare

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<v Speaker 1>is a disaster. Hospitals are closing. We have watched all

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<v Speaker 1>of that get ripped away from us, and everyone just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to keep it all together. Why can't we have

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<v Speaker 1>universal health care like every other.

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<v Speaker 3>First world country.

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<v Speaker 1>Why can't we take care of our veterans when they

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<v Speaker 1>come home. Why are we funding endless wars and bombing children?

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<v Speaker 1>Why are CEO is more powerful than unions? We fought

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<v Speaker 1>three different wars since the last time we raised a

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<v Speaker 1>minimum wage. I'm not pretending to have all the answers,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know that I'm asking the very questions. When

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<v Speaker 1>I tell people around here that I'm running for Senate,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes the initial reaction is what. But when I tell

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<v Speaker 1>them why, I'm doing it because I truly do believe

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<v Speaker 1>that we can build a system that is going to

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<v Speaker 1>represent working people. The number one response has been, well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank god, somebody's going to do it. You're supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>fight the things you love. This is our home, and

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<v Speaker 1>I will fight tirelessly for it for you. It's Mayner's

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<v Speaker 1>first in Maine always.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that didn't seem bad. No, it's good. That's

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<v Speaker 3>that's a solid ad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, like the BA is reasonably low. But like

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<v Speaker 2>that dude hit it, I think.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, yeah, yeah, like I would say that's just

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<v Speaker 4>outright good, like if I were if I were crafting

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<v Speaker 4>an ad to run from other than the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>he's lived a different life, but like how he's talking

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<v Speaker 4>about the oligarchy, how he's talking about the lack of

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<v Speaker 4>progress on things like minimum wage and how unacceptable it is,

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<v Speaker 4>and like how the difference between Susan Collins and Ted

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<v Speaker 4>Cruise is that at least Ted Cruise is honest.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, I'm on board this guy. This guy seems

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<v Speaker 3>like he rips.

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<v Speaker 2>I would vote for that dude, Like yeah, sure, he

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<v Speaker 2>might turn into a fucking fatimen, but like.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, they can all get milkshake ducked. But he's

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<v Speaker 4>saying the right things at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's remarkably straightforward, right, Like yeah, and yet that

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<v Speaker 2>seems to evade most Democrats.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got the audio of a car ad. But I

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<v Speaker 3>guess if it works. It works. That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I'm not familiar with the Platinu race,

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<v Speaker 4>so I'm not sure where the polling showing.

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<v Speaker 2>This video is like two days old, Like he's extremely fresh.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I will say that visually it hangs together. Dude,

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<v Speaker 2>us is the same open cell wetsuit.

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<v Speaker 5>I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, he didn't just buy all this shit, Like, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>buy an axe and chopping for the first time in

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<v Speaker 2>this video, right right.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, He didn't do the normal weird democrat trying to

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<v Speaker 4>reach out to a rural thing of like posing awkwardly

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<v Speaker 4>with a shotgun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Like this is a dude, and just like

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<v Speaker 2>physically he appears to have done some work with his hands.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he looks like a working class guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's compare this to like Newsome has not done

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<v Speaker 2>the material things that he could be doing instead of tweeting. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump didn't call it the California National Guy. In the

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<v Speaker 2>Insurrection Act, he used Title ten, section yeah one two

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<v Speaker 2>four zero six of the US Code that section state's

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<v Speaker 2>orders for these purposes should be issued through the governors

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<v Speaker 2>of the states. It also outlined protigues for DC which

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<v Speaker 2>we don't care about.

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<v Speaker 6>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see why he could at least try to

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<v Speaker 2>force the issue in ordering the guard to go home.

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<v Speaker 2>He's pursuing a court case yet, but leg forced the

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<v Speaker 2>crisis because we're already in one. He has not taken

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<v Speaker 2>a single meaningful action to stop ice snatching people from

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<v Speaker 2>our communities in California, nor has his Attorney General taken

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<v Speaker 2>a single meaningful action to stop individual sheriff's departments from

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<v Speaker 2>violating SB fifty four. SB fifty four, if you're not

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<v Speaker 2>familiar as a California Values Act, which limits which inmates

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<v Speaker 2>can be transferred to ICE custody and when. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>oblige anyone to transfer them, but it does allow them

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<v Speaker 2>to transfer them if certain felonies have been committed in

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<v Speaker 2>the last fifteen years. The San Diego Sheriff has been

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<v Speaker 2>accused of violating this are linked to a KPBS article

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<v Speaker 2>on that where they transferred to someone who, according to

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<v Speaker 2>claims in the article, had a twenty one year old conviction.

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<v Speaker 2>Where As I said, before the cutoff fifteen years, Newsom

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<v Speaker 2>could do something about the surveillance which is being installed

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<v Speaker 2>all over California. These licensed plates readers at the ones

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<v Speaker 2>at San Diego has spent thousands, if not billions, of

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<v Speaker 2>dollars on these license plate readers have had their information

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<v Speaker 2>shared with federal agencies more than one hundred times in

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<v Speaker 2>May alone. According to cal Matters, that is a violation

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<v Speaker 2>of California law. Specifically, it's Senate Bill thirty four, which

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<v Speaker 2>limits the sharing of licensed plate data. Rob Buntter issued

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<v Speaker 2>an advisory, but again, this is resulting in our communities

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<v Speaker 2>being harassed, right, Californians being snatched. Newsom has done nothing

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<v Speaker 2>about that. He could stand up for ant house people,

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<v Speaker 2>but instead, alongside Todd Glory, he has led the charge

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<v Speaker 2>against Todd Gloria is seemingly intent on driving our city

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<v Speaker 2>into debt to pursue Castro approach.

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<v Speaker 3>Against Sea unhoused.

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<v Speaker 2>Newsom posed for a photo shoot, destroying unhow's people's property.

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<v Speaker 2>He hasn't done a single thing that puts him at

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<v Speaker 2>any risk. Right. He's presenting himself in this Sean ram

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<v Speaker 2>podcast the big risk taker because he spoke out about

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<v Speaker 2>fucking teenage girls running, right, But he hasn't put his

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<v Speaker 2>neck on the line once for marginalized people in California.

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<v Speaker 3>You're anywhere else, absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 2>I think where I want to end is I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want you to engage with nuisance tweets like that doesn't help.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to mistake that for making a difference, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think for a lot of people in the

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<v Speaker 2>legacy media and probably knew some of his friends, the

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<v Speaker 2>real tragedy of what's happened in the last eight months

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<v Speaker 2>is that they have to see scary, nasty stuff on

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<v Speaker 2>their telephones. So seeing something funny on their telephone seems

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<v Speaker 2>like an antidote because it's not their community, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>their people, and it's not people they fundamentally give a

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<v Speaker 2>shit about either. That I think is why to them

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<v Speaker 2>this seems effective, and hopefully to you, as it does

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<v Speaker 2>to me, it seems completely effective.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how much else to say. It's nice

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<v Speaker 4>to see guys like Platner at least seem to be

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<v Speaker 4>figuring it out. There's not I've been looking into it

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<v Speaker 4>and there's not There's not much polling. There's not really

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<v Speaker 4>any polling because of how recently he announced his bid

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<v Speaker 4>to show how well he's doing. Other than that, the

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<v Speaker 4>video has got like two and a half million views

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<v Speaker 4>something like that, which which is good and seems to

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<v Speaker 4>be spreading well online, but that doesn't translate electorally. What

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<v Speaker 4>we do have electorally is that polls in Maine show

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<v Speaker 4>that the Democratic Party is historically unpopular, including with Democrats.

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<v Speaker 4>This is from a July survey. There's a good article

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<v Speaker 4>in PBS that's just titled they roll right over many

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats think their party is weak ap n RC whole finds.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh sorry, this is actually no, sorry, this is overall

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<v Speaker 4>across US adults.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>The initial article I had seemed to be saying that

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<v Speaker 4>it was this was just in May. No, this is

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<v Speaker 4>this is nationwide. Right, So, I mean, I think that

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<v Speaker 4>what Platner has seen, the opportunity he's seen, is real.

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<v Speaker 4>Then there are a lot of people who are not

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<v Speaker 4>at all interested in voting for a Republican, who have

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<v Speaker 4>not been swayed to the right, who identify as Democrats

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<v Speaker 4>but hate the party and think it is weak. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>Like about two inten Democrats, according to this poll, describe

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<v Speaker 4>their party positively. One intent said it was empathetic and inclusive.

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<v Speaker 4>That's terrible, right, And that is that I mean, that

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<v Speaker 4>shows that just what we were saying, kind of based

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<v Speaker 4>on our gut, which is it's a bad idea to

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<v Speaker 4>hang people out to dry because you don't think you

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<v Speaker 4>can defend them. You think that it'll be beneficial politically

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<v Speaker 4>to make the choice to, you know, let them die basically. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>And it seems like Democrats largely are responding by saying, well,

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<v Speaker 4>this party doesn't give a shit about us, and they

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<v Speaker 4>are ineffective. They can't do fuck all. Right, Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's definitely what's happening. So yeah, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 4>Platner is going to win, but I'm growing more convinced

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<v Speaker 4>every day that there's opportunity for people who are actually

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<v Speaker 4>willing to fight these bastards. Yeah, and you understanding that

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<v Speaker 4>fighting these bad isn't just like, well, let's give them

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<v Speaker 4>almost everything they want and hope that somehow lets us win.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking of like not leaving people out to dry, for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>talking about trans women in sports, he says it's a

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<v Speaker 2>distraction from the things that impact Americans materially every single day.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he said, I'm dedicated to a quality and justice

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<v Speaker 2>for all in this country. And I think the specific

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:22.600
<v Speaker 2>topic has become such a touchstone of the media discussion

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<v Speaker 2>because it pulls away from the conversation that needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be happening, which is getting every American affordable healthcare. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not the best response, it's not the worst one either, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think he is right. For most of these

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<v Speaker 2>conservative people, they don't care about women's sports, right, They're

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<v Speaker 2>not there when women are getting shit prized, many women

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<v Speaker 2>are getting shit TV time. This for them is just

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<v Speaker 2>a culture war issue. He also called the genocide and

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<v Speaker 2>Gazara a genocide, which is something that it's like.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I enjoyed the line about where we're just killing

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<v Speaker 4>kids with bombs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think that he didn't mince his words

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<v Speaker 2>about it. When asked by ABC, he said he's following

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<v Speaker 2>the leader of Israeli scholars on genocide on this issue.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, Like it's remarkably easy, right to build a

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<v Speaker 2>coalition right now of people who are fucking mad And

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people voted for Donald Trump because they

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<v Speaker 2>were sick of this same smami bullshit. Some of them

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<v Speaker 2>are to vote Johnald Trump because a hateful, terrible, fucking people. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>just to be super clear, Yeah, but like it's so easy,

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<v Speaker 2>and yet it seems to be evading, Like you say,

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<v Speaker 2>the presumptive nominee that this guy who for for nearly

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<v Speaker 2>a decade. We have assumed we'll run in twenty twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess I know. Fuck Gavin Newsom. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>that he does not succeed with his presidential campaign missions.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, all right, well that's yeah, most of what I

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<v Speaker 4>got to say about that son of a bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, me too.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's roll out, Bye bye.

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