Speaker 1: Al Zon Media.
Speaker 2: All Right, it could happen here. It's me, it's Robert,
Speaker 2: and we are gathered here today to talk about one
Speaker 2: of the most annoying things that can happen on your telephone,
Speaker 2: which is that you can be sent a tweet from
Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 3: Which is just no one needed that.
Speaker 2: It's already really bad. I see really bad things on
Speaker 2: my telephone every day. I don't need to see a
Speaker 2: tweet from Gavin Newsom. If you're not familiar with this,
Speaker 2: you're living a better life than me, and I'm proud
Speaker 2: of you. But I'm going to give you some context
Speaker 2: here for those of you who are not familiar. Gavin
Speaker 2: Newsom is the governor of California. He's also kind of
Speaker 2: been the presumptive of twenty twenty eight Democratic candidate for
Speaker 2: quite a while. He's term limited out running for California
Speaker 2: governor again, so he won't be doing that, and his
Speaker 2: term will end in January of twenty twenty seven. He
Speaker 2: had for a while to I to dismiss claims that
Speaker 2: he was interested in the presidency, but he's been a
Speaker 2: lot more of about it recently. Yeh, I don't believe
Speaker 2: any claims that he was not interested in this for
Speaker 2: a long time. He has definitely tried to cast himself
Speaker 2: this summer as the sort of leader of the resistance
Speaker 2: type figure. Yeah, he hasn't done that by, for instance,
Speaker 2: ordering the California National Guard to go home, protecting people
Speaker 2: from the massmen with guns snatching them in the street,
Speaker 2: or even standing up for trans kids. Instead, he has
Speaker 2: focused on I guess what you could generously call Twitter trolling,
Speaker 2: like it's well, we're going to get into it. It's
Speaker 2: extremely annoying. So about a week ago now, I think
Speaker 2: the eleventh of August was when he began newso began
Speaker 2: his social media rebrand. He did this by posting about
Speaker 2: himself in all caps as America's favorite governor. His posts
Speaker 2: since then have mimicked the mc donald. Trump has a
Speaker 2: pretty distinctive posting style, right, Yeah, Newsom's have written in
Speaker 2: all caps. Trump doesn't tend to do. Trump tends to
Speaker 2: capitalize sporadically and as far as I can tell, entirely randomly.
Speaker 2: But Newsom's doing it in all caps. He uses over
Speaker 2: uses exclamation marks. I should say, this beef between the
Speaker 2: two of them is not new right. Trump has has
Speaker 2: called him new scum on true social and I don't
Speaker 2: think Trump can claim the intellectual property to new scum.
Speaker 2: I've seen that one. Yeah, yeah, like it's up there
Speaker 2: with like hair Gel, Hitler and Ussolini. Like yeah, anyway,
Speaker 2: if you if you're buying a firearm in California, you
Speaker 2: will hear someone say one of these things almost without fail.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The claim that Newsom's team is making is that he's
Speaker 2: like holding up a mirror to Trump's bigot treaty by
Speaker 2: doing this Trump style posting. But I think in doing so,
Speaker 2: he's really illustrated the difference between them is not as
Speaker 2: profound as you'd think or hope. He in one example
Speaker 2: called Scott Presler Nancy Mace. It's got Presler, gay conservative
Speaker 2: right wing figure, and then he was called out for
Speaker 2: missed gendering presla Bay. This will shock and amaze you
Speaker 2: Tommy Lauren.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which yeah, no one knows, Okay, Yeah, he responded, quote,
Speaker 2: you sound woke. This really isn't funny. It's just bigotry,
Speaker 2: Like comparing gay men to women is an old, worn
Speaker 2: out and lazy jab.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So when you combine this with him having right wing
Speaker 2: figures like Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon on his.
Speaker 4: Podcast and it just for reference, folks. I don't know
Speaker 4: how much detail we can get into legally here, but
Speaker 4: this being our business, we are aware of the numbers
Speaker 4: different podcasts do. And Gavin Newsom's podcast is not like
Speaker 4: it does. Okay, but there's certain podcasts about, for example,
Speaker 4: bad people in history that lap at several times. So
Speaker 4: like the star power that Gavin Newsom has, I'm not
Speaker 4: seeing it. We're not talking about a guy who has
Speaker 4: shown evidence that he is capable of on his own
Speaker 4: generating like a super loyal fan base or continued interest
Speaker 4: in his personality. Now I'm not saying that's that on
Speaker 4: its own. Is it's a bad thing. A lot of
Speaker 4: politicians who are very competent at certain things are not
Speaker 4: competent at that, And in fact, most of the worst
Speaker 4: politicians we have are also the people who are the
Speaker 4: best at that and building a fan.
Speaker 3: Base, so to speak.
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is that Gavin Newsom is obsessed
Speaker 4: with doing something, being this Trumpian populist figure that he
Speaker 4: has not exhibited faculty for right. Yes, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, no,
Speaker 4: And that's what I'm saying too.
Speaker 2: Is a he's confusing engagement with actual political action, right.
Speaker 4: And he's confusing the kind of engagement that you get
Speaker 4: on social media when it's someone else's algorithm, And a
Speaker 4: lot of the engagement is like, not people who are
Speaker 4: going to vote for you or support you, but people
Speaker 4: who the algorithm is pushing your content to because it
Speaker 4: knows they'll get pissed off off by it, right, exactly
Speaker 4: that I'm not against you know, pissing off conservatives, but
Speaker 4: that doesn't help you necessarily, right, Like, there's not a
Speaker 4: clear benefit to us in this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good things piss off conservatives, but pissing off conservatives
Speaker 2: and not inherently a good to a useful thing. It's
Speaker 2: just a thing.
Speaker 3: It's not enough, right, Like, I again, it can be.
Speaker 4: I'm not sometimes that's necessary just for morale purposes alone.
Speaker 4: But again, I don't really think Gavin Newsom is making
Speaker 4: the right scared. I don't think he's breaking their morale.
Speaker 4: I think he's just kind of creating content that people
Speaker 4: on the left are sharing because it pisses them off.
Speaker 4: People on the right are sharing because it makes them laugh.
Speaker 4: I think they think it's sad more than anything else.
Speaker 4: And obviously You've got a chunk of like a decent
Speaker 4: chunk of like centrist dim types who like Newsome, and
Speaker 4: I guess maybe it's working for some of them, but
Speaker 4: I don't think it's broadening his support. I think there's
Speaker 4: a single voter, especially in a swing state, who was,
Speaker 4: like I wasn't wasn't going to vote for Gavin Newsom
Speaker 4: until I saw him mimicking Donald Trump's tweets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly like he is doing, in a sense what
Speaker 2: Harris did, which is this consistently failed Democrat political strategy
Speaker 2: that they seem so addicted to that no amount of
Speaker 2: losing will break them of it, which is moving to
Speaker 2: the right to try and capture moderate Republicans. Right, They've
Speaker 2: done this. Everything's Trump took the Republican Party closer closer
Speaker 2: to fascism, right. Like, I want to give an example
Speaker 2: of this, his Gavin Uson talking to Sean Ryan about
Speaker 2: transgender athletes.
Speaker 5: I'll be cannon with you. I looked at that issue
Speaker 5: and I said, boy, they're just exploiting this. It's a
Speaker 5: handful of people. What the hell is this? It's been weaponized.
Speaker 5: It was just another cultural issue. Intel two years ago,
Speaker 5: there was a state track championship. We had a trans
Speaker 5: athlete that was successful and there was a video of
Speaker 5: the girl that lost and she was devastated. Video one
Speaker 5: around everywhere and it was very emotional. I was very real.
Speaker 5: I remember calling my team man, I said, this is legit,
Speaker 5: and I did this podcast with Charlie Kirk. Unsurprisingly, he
Speaker 5: brought it up and he said, tell me, that's not fair.
Speaker 5: I said, it's not fair. You're right. My party was pissed.
Speaker 5: LGBTQCCUS furious with me because I don't think it's fair.
Speaker 6: It's not.
Speaker 5: But because you oppose sports doesn't make you homophobic, and
Speaker 5: my party needs to stop saying that.
Speaker 4: Yeah again, I know who he thinks this is going
Speaker 4: to help. He believes it's a religion. Effectively, among a
Speaker 4: lot of establishment dims that there's a whole huge chunk
Speaker 4: of voters who are just itching to vote for a
Speaker 4: Democrat if they weren't in favor of all of these
Speaker 4: icky cultural issues that are hard to touch that the
Speaker 4: right is. You know, it spends so much time harping on,
Speaker 4: and I think part of what they're seeing and where
Speaker 4: a lot of the logical disconnect comes into effect, is
Speaker 4: that they see how much money conservatives and time and
Speaker 4: discourse conservatives spend talking about this and obsessing over it,
Speaker 4: and they believe, well, oh, if we if we just
Speaker 4: kind of fold on these people, then we've taken this
Speaker 4: great weapon out of their arsenal, and they'll be helpless
Speaker 4: because they're stupid. And I don't think these are fundamentally
Speaker 4: very smart people in the political sense of the world.
Speaker 4: I think they bad politicians. I think they're bad. I
Speaker 4: think they were good politicians in terms of a competency
Speaker 4: sense at a prior age to get to where they were,
Speaker 4: But the ground has changed, and intelligence is largely a
Speaker 4: product of adaptability, and they have not proven adaptable. And
Speaker 4: I think what's actually going to happen, because we've seen
Speaker 4: this is if they throw trans people under the bus,
Speaker 4: as they're actively talking about doing, the right will grab
Speaker 4: another chunk of their coalition and start ruthlessly trying to
Speaker 4: destroy that group of people, and these people's suggestion will
Speaker 4: once again be Okay, well, we got to, you know,
Speaker 4: throw those people under the bus, because then we'll deny
Speaker 4: them that weapon, and eventually you won't have any Democrats left,
Speaker 4: Like yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, they'll come after same sex marriage. I'll come after
Speaker 2: fucking interracial marriage, and Newsom will try and find the middle.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like where he has received praise for this is in
Speaker 2: the legacy media. I want to quote here from a
Speaker 2: caw Matter's op ed, which suggests that Newsom was quote
Speaker 2: someone trying to hold space for a hard conversation in
Speaker 2: his podcast, He's not.
Speaker 4: You don't have conversations with Charlie Kirk. He's never had
Speaker 4: a real one in his life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the conversation is not hard to have, right, trans
Speaker 2: people deserve the same fucking rights as everyone else. It's
Speaker 2: very easy to have. Also, he's having this conversation with
Speaker 2: someone who agrees with him, Like, I would love to
Speaker 2: see him tell a young trans woman that she can't
Speaker 2: play on the fucking third string the high school volleyball team,
Speaker 2: because then he's going to see a kid cry too.
Speaker 2: I don't want to go over the like trans people
Speaker 2: can compete sports, like I've made my living as an
Speaker 2: athlete for much of my life. This is bullshit, and
Speaker 2: it's fundamentally disrespectful to women athletes to continue to suggest
Speaker 2: it they're biologically inferior. But I do want to talk
Speaker 2: more about Gavin you some slide into mean politics. His
Speaker 2: press office claimed that after the fires in LA the
Speaker 2: claim this in New York Times in a piece of
Speaker 2: our link, he was troubled by the misinformation that came out.
Speaker 2: Apparently was his first fucking time in encountering misinformation on
Speaker 2: the internet.
Speaker 3: Like oh wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, when you think about the ease with which
Speaker 2: he lies, right, yeah, absolute comfort he has bullshitting It
Speaker 2: sort of makes sense until it hits him. He doesn't
Speaker 2: care because he's lying too. So they decided to take
Speaker 2: the fight to the internet. I guess they began with
Speaker 2: Star Wars memes. And then when the redistricting debate in Texas,
Speaker 2: we've covered extensively on executive disorder, was kind of reaching
Speaker 2: his peak. Newsom sort of begun this. I know you are,
Speaker 2: you said you are, but what am I kind of
Speaker 2: tendency in his posting, he posted in all block capitals,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to shout Donald Trump. If you do
Speaker 2: not stand down, we will be forced to leave an
Speaker 2: effort to redraw the maps in CAA to offset the
Speaker 2: rigging of maps in red states. But if the other
Speaker 2: states call off their redistricting efforts, we will do the same.
Speaker 2: Thank you for your attention on this match. Sorry, it's
Speaker 2: hard to read because it's entirely unpunctuated apart from at
Speaker 2: the end there these tweets aren't on his personal account
Speaker 2: or the official governor of California one. They're on an
Speaker 2: account called governor use some press office. But that count
Speaker 2: does have their little gray tick mark that you can
Speaker 2: get in Twitter now for like government accounts. Then he
Speaker 2: moved on to AI generated images and signing his post
Speaker 2: with initials like Trump does, claiming Kid Rock had endorsed him,
Speaker 2: which isn't true. Incidentally, they did this exactly a year
Speaker 2: after Donald Trump posted an AI generated image of Taylor
Speaker 2: Swift with the Swifties for Trump montage, which shows how
Speaker 2: much time they spend looking at Trump's post rather than
Speaker 2: doing anything fucking useful. Then they moved onto mocking Greg
Speaker 2: Abbott for using a wheelchair, saying he rolled over for
Speaker 2: Trump again, like, you do not build a political coalition
Speaker 2: by mocking people with disabilities. There are a million things
Speaker 2: to fucking hate Greg Abbot, for I could spend an
Speaker 2: hour talking about the loathsome shit that he has done,
Speaker 2: but using a wheelchair is not one of those things.
Speaker 2: If you cannot find anything else that really shows a
Speaker 2: paucity of democratic politics. Right now, let's take a break
Speaker 2: and we'll come back.
Speaker 3: Awesome, All right, we're back.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, and probably predictively, Newsom has received praise from all
Speaker 2: over the legacy and media for these posts. The NYT quoted,
Speaker 2: it's actually unclear of they quoted. I don't know if
Speaker 2: this was just a mistake that they haven't corrected. But
Speaker 2: it was phrased like she said it directly, but it
Speaker 2: wasn't in quotation marks, so I'm a little clear. I'm
Speaker 2: just going to assume they quoted this.
Speaker 6: Lady.
Speaker 2: Sarah Roberts, a director for the Center of Critical Internet
Speaker 2: Inquiry UCLA, said quote, mister Nuisan's posts are perhaps grabbing
Speaker 2: so much attention because they stand out for the rest
Speaker 2: of Democratic party's ineffective approach of playing its safe and
Speaker 2: proceeding as if it's business as usual. And then just
Speaker 2: to double down on this useful podcast idiot John Favreau
Speaker 2: tweeted quote, I mean it's pretty clearly a parody of
Speaker 2: Trump's absolutely insane, all caps off to nonsensical posts. Probably
Speaker 2: while all the people in my life you aren't political junkies,
Speaker 2: keep reaching out to say they don't know much about Newsom,
Speaker 2: but think the tweets are hilarious, humor and mockery can
Speaker 2: be quite effective. Neither of them say what they are
Speaker 2: effective for. Right, No one seems concerned that these make
Speaker 2: no material difference, and he is doing them instead of
Speaker 2: doing things that make material difference.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: I'm going to play another clip from Chris Hayes here
Speaker 2: off you.
Speaker 7: Governor Gavin Newsom and his team have figured out a
Speaker 7: very entertaining way to deal with Donald trumpet As a
Speaker 7: rhetorical level, They've got a new social media strategy that
Speaker 7: is both I got to say, pretty damn funny and
Speaker 7: I think extremely effective, mocking the president with a spot
Speaker 7: on impression of his very weird communication stock. Since Newsom
Speaker 7: jumped into the ongoing redistricting fight, his official Twitter account
Speaker 7: has been posting Trump style. Donald has finished, he is
Speaker 7: no longer hot. First the hand so tiny, and now
Speaker 7: me Gavin C. Newson have taken away his step. Many
Speaker 7: are saying, we can't even do the big stairs on
Speaker 7: Air Force one anymore.
Speaker 6: Uses the little baby stairs now sad as.
Speaker 7: All the Trump trademarks, all capital letters, random quotation marks,
Speaker 7: little parentheticals, complete unhinged absurdity.
Speaker 6: I thought that was a good one.
Speaker 7: I hate Kid Rock GCN reference to Trump's infamous I
Speaker 7: hate Taylor Swift, another drags a vice president to it.
Speaker 7: Not even JD just Dance Vans can save Trump from
Speaker 7: the disastrous maps war he has started. Not even his
Speaker 7: eyeliner lines look as pretty as California map lines.
Speaker 6: He will fail as he always does.
Speaker 7: Sad and I, the peacetime governor of our nation's favorite,
Speaker 7: will save America once again. Many are now calling me
Speaker 7: Gavin Christopher Columbus Newsom because of the maps. Thank you
Speaker 7: for your attention to this matter. Beyond the mockery of
Speaker 7: Trump's text post, Newsom has also been posting Trump style
Speaker 7: AI generated images of himself, including this I think absolute
Speaker 7: masterpiece of Newsom, deep in a moment of reflection or
Speaker 7: prayer bank by three Maga icons and the laying of
Speaker 7: hands Kid Rock, who he hates, Tucker Carlson, and the
Speaker 7: angelic spirit of the recently departed Hulk Hogan again a
Speaker 7: spot on mockery of Trump, who isn't doing any of
Speaker 7: this satirically. What has been equally hilarious has been to
Speaker 7: watch the joke just go soaring over the heads of
Speaker 7: Trump's sick of fants in the.
Speaker 6: Media for the last week.
Speaker 8: Gavin Newsom, and why am I giving him advice? You
Speaker 8: had to stop it with the Twitter thing. I don't
Speaker 8: know where his wife is. I want his wife. I
Speaker 8: would say, you are making a fool of yourself. Stop it,
Speaker 8: Do not let your staff tweet. And if you're doing
Speaker 8: it yourself, put the phone away and start over. And
Speaker 8: if you want. He's got a big job as governor
Speaker 8: of California, but if he wants an even bigger job,
Speaker 8: he has to be a little bit more serious.
Speaker 6: Yes, right, be more serious.
Speaker 7: Stop posting exactly like the president the United States does.
Speaker 7: Newsome's account responded to that advice quote, Dana ding Dong
Speaker 7: Pirino never heard of her till today is melting down.
Speaker 6: Because of me. God and C. Newsom.
Speaker 7: Fox hate that I am America's most favorite governor ratings
Speaker 7: King saving America. Trump has lost his step and Fox
Speaker 7: is losing it because when I'm type American that wins.
Speaker 7: Thank you for your attention this matter again. It is
Speaker 7: just it is a stark reminder with someone else doing
Speaker 7: it of how truly utterly deranged our current president sounds
Speaker 7: whenever he communicates and also how accustomed we've all become
Speaker 7: to this very very weird behavior.
Speaker 2: I know, we wouldn't be talking about this suse he
Speaker 2: was just bad tweets, Right, We're talking about it because
Speaker 2: I think he shows a fundamental inability of the DNC
Speaker 2: to meet the moment right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're talking about it because people are dying and
Speaker 4: more people will die as a result of this administration's policies.
Speaker 4: Other people are being imprisoned, and like I, you know,
Speaker 4: the damage being done you know, to medical science, to
Speaker 4: the future of humanity, to the future of this country
Speaker 4: is tremendous and escalating. And the fact that like this
Speaker 4: is the best a major a major contender for the
Speaker 4: Democratic presidential candidate in twenty twenty eight has been able
Speaker 4: to pull.
Speaker 3: Out so far, is like terrifying.
Speaker 4: And again, obviously no one should be reliant upon the dims.
Speaker 3: But unfortunately also like what are you got to do?
Speaker 3: What am I going to do? Right?
Speaker 4: I don't have the resources of the Democratic Party, I
Speaker 4: don't have a bunch of elected leaders listening to me. Like,
Speaker 4: because of the status of our situation, individual people in
Speaker 4: small groups and towns, and you know, we talk about
Speaker 4: mutual aid on this show we talk about unions. All
Speaker 4: of these increased personal resiliency. They increase the ability of
Speaker 4: groups and of individuals within groups to be resilient. But
Speaker 4: none of that is going to stop the fucking DHS
Speaker 4: from turning into the SS. Right, Yeah, and the Democratic
Speaker 4: Party clearly fucking isn't either. But the fact that this
Speaker 4: is what they're doing instead of effective resistance is I mean,
Speaker 4: it's important. I wish there was more to say than
Speaker 4: we should know how badly they're failing.
Speaker 2: Us, right, Yeah, like a world where Democrat gets elected
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty eight, it's getting less awful less quickly,
Speaker 2: and we should want yes, right, Like, I'm not one
Speaker 2: of these Like acceleration is no.
Speaker 3: I just I don't think that's going to help either.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, look right now, it is accelerating, and
Speaker 2: it is bad. There are so many obvious challenges Democrats
Speaker 2: can make. And I want to play Robert, have you
Speaker 2: seen this Graham Planter for Senate campaign?
Speaker 3: Ad? No, may not?
Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to play this for you, Like
Speaker 2: I think it's it's good as a contrast, right.
Speaker 1: But I love most about many of the people I
Speaker 1: have never met, people who are more hard scrabble, even
Speaker 1: in a place that requires you to work like two
Speaker 1: or three different jobs. We have watched this state become
Speaker 1: essentially unlivable for working class people, and it makes me
Speaker 1: deeply angry. My name is Graham Plattner, and I'm running
Speaker 1: for US Senate and Maine to defeat Susan Collins. A
Speaker 1: decade of military service, going overseas, farming oysters to feed
Speaker 1: my community, diving to lend a hand to other fishermen,
Speaker 1: trying to start a family. But everywhere I've gone, it
Speaker 1: seems like the fabric of what holds us together is
Speaker 1: being ripped apart by billionaires and corrupt politicians profiting off
Speaker 1: of destroying our environment, driving our families into poverty, and
Speaker 1: crushing the middle class. I did four infantry tours in
Speaker 1: the Marine Corps in the Army. I'm not afraid to
Speaker 1: name an enemy, and the enemy is the oligarchy. It's
Speaker 1: the billionaires who pay for it, the politicians who sell
Speaker 1: us out. And yeah, that means politicians like Susan Collins.
Speaker 1: I'm not fooled by this fake charade of Collins deliberations
Speaker 1: and moderation. The difference between Susan Collins and Ted Cruz
Speaker 1: is at least Ted Cruz is honest about selling us
Speaker 1: out and not giving a damn. People know that the
Speaker 1: system is screwing them. They know it in their bones.
Speaker 1: Nobody I know around here can afford a house. Healthcare
Speaker 1: is a disaster. Hospitals are closing. We have watched all
Speaker 1: of that get ripped away from us, and everyone just
Speaker 1: trying to keep it all together. Why can't we have
Speaker 1: universal health care like every other.
Speaker 3: First world country.
Speaker 1: Why can't we take care of our veterans when they
Speaker 1: come home. Why are we funding endless wars and bombing children?
Speaker 1: Why are CEO is more powerful than unions? We fought
Speaker 1: three different wars since the last time we raised a
Speaker 1: minimum wage. I'm not pretending to have all the answers,
Speaker 1: but I know that I'm asking the very questions. When
Speaker 1: I tell people around here that I'm running for Senate,
Speaker 1: sometimes the initial reaction is what. But when I tell
Speaker 1: them why, I'm doing it because I truly do believe
Speaker 1: that we can build a system that is going to
Speaker 1: represent working people. The number one response has been, well,
Speaker 1: thank god, somebody's going to do it. You're supposed to
Speaker 1: fight the things you love. This is our home, and
Speaker 1: I will fight tirelessly for it for you. It's Mayner's
Speaker 1: first in Maine always.
Speaker 3: I mean, that didn't seem bad. No, it's good. That's
Speaker 3: that's a solid ad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like the BA is reasonably low. But like
Speaker 2: that dude hit it, I think.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, yeah, like I would say that's just
Speaker 4: outright good, like if I were if I were crafting
Speaker 4: an ad to run from other than the fact that
Speaker 4: he's lived a different life, but like how he's talking
Speaker 4: about the oligarchy, how he's talking about the lack of
Speaker 4: progress on things like minimum wage and how unacceptable it is,
Speaker 4: and like how the difference between Susan Collins and Ted
Speaker 4: Cruise is that at least Ted Cruise is honest.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I'm on board this guy. This guy seems
Speaker 3: like he rips.
Speaker 2: I would vote for that dude, Like yeah, sure, he
Speaker 2: might turn into a fucking fatimen, but like.
Speaker 4: I mean, they can all get milkshake ducked. But he's
Speaker 4: saying the right things at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's remarkably straightforward, right, Like yeah, and yet that
Speaker 2: seems to evade most Democrats.
Speaker 3: He's got the audio of a car ad. But I
Speaker 3: guess if it works. It works. That's the thing.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm not familiar with the Platinu race,
Speaker 4: so I'm not sure where the polling showing.
Speaker 2: This video is like two days old, Like he's extremely fresh.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I will say that visually it hangs together. Dude,
Speaker 2: us is the same open cell wetsuit.
Speaker 5: I do.
Speaker 2: Like, he didn't just buy all this shit, Like, didn't
Speaker 2: buy an axe and chopping for the first time in
Speaker 2: this video, right right.
Speaker 4: Right, He didn't do the normal weird democrat trying to
Speaker 4: reach out to a rural thing of like posing awkwardly
Speaker 4: with a shotgun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like this is a dude, and just like
Speaker 2: physically he appears to have done some work with his hands.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks like a working class guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's compare this to like Newsome has not done
Speaker 2: the material things that he could be doing instead of tweeting. Right,
Speaker 2: Trump didn't call it the California National Guy. In the
Speaker 2: Insurrection Act, he used Title ten, section yeah one two
Speaker 2: four zero six of the US Code that section state's
Speaker 2: orders for these purposes should be issued through the governors
Speaker 2: of the states. It also outlined protigues for DC which
Speaker 2: we don't care about.
Speaker 6: Here.
Speaker 2: I didn't see why he could at least try to
Speaker 2: force the issue in ordering the guard to go home.
Speaker 2: He's pursuing a court case yet, but leg forced the
Speaker 2: crisis because we're already in one. He has not taken
Speaker 2: a single meaningful action to stop ice snatching people from
Speaker 2: our communities in California, nor has his Attorney General taken
Speaker 2: a single meaningful action to stop individual sheriff's departments from
Speaker 2: violating SB fifty four. SB fifty four, if you're not
Speaker 2: familiar as a California Values Act, which limits which inmates
Speaker 2: can be transferred to ICE custody and when. It doesn't
Speaker 2: oblige anyone to transfer them, but it does allow them
Speaker 2: to transfer them if certain felonies have been committed in
Speaker 2: the last fifteen years. The San Diego Sheriff has been
Speaker 2: accused of violating this are linked to a KPBS article
Speaker 2: on that where they transferred to someone who, according to
Speaker 2: claims in the article, had a twenty one year old conviction.
Speaker 2: Where As I said, before the cutoff fifteen years, Newsom
Speaker 2: could do something about the surveillance which is being installed
Speaker 2: all over California. These licensed plates readers at the ones
Speaker 2: at San Diego has spent thousands, if not billions, of
Speaker 2: dollars on these license plate readers have had their information
Speaker 2: shared with federal agencies more than one hundred times in
Speaker 2: May alone. According to cal Matters, that is a violation
Speaker 2: of California law. Specifically, it's Senate Bill thirty four, which
Speaker 2: limits the sharing of licensed plate data. Rob Buntter issued
Speaker 2: an advisory, but again, this is resulting in our communities
Speaker 2: being harassed, right, Californians being snatched. Newsom has done nothing
Speaker 2: about that. He could stand up for ant house people,
Speaker 2: but instead, alongside Todd Glory, he has led the charge
Speaker 2: against Todd Gloria is seemingly intent on driving our city
Speaker 2: into debt to pursue Castro approach.
Speaker 3: Against Sea unhoused.
Speaker 2: Newsom posed for a photo shoot, destroying unhow's people's property.
Speaker 2: He hasn't done a single thing that puts him at
Speaker 2: any risk. Right. He's presenting himself in this Sean ram
Speaker 2: podcast the big risk taker because he spoke out about
Speaker 2: fucking teenage girls running, right, But he hasn't put his
Speaker 2: neck on the line once for marginalized people in California.
Speaker 3: You're anywhere else, absolutely not.
Speaker 2: I think where I want to end is I don't
Speaker 2: want you to engage with nuisance tweets like that doesn't help.
Speaker 2: He's going to mistake that for making a difference, right,
Speaker 2: because I think for a lot of people in the
Speaker 2: legacy media and probably knew some of his friends, the
Speaker 2: real tragedy of what's happened in the last eight months
Speaker 2: is that they have to see scary, nasty stuff on
Speaker 2: their telephones. So seeing something funny on their telephone seems
Speaker 2: like an antidote because it's not their community, it's not
Speaker 2: their people, and it's not people they fundamentally give a
Speaker 2: shit about either. That I think is why to them
Speaker 2: this seems effective, and hopefully to you, as it does
Speaker 2: to me, it seems completely effective.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know how much else to say. It's nice
Speaker 4: to see guys like Platner at least seem to be
Speaker 4: figuring it out. There's not I've been looking into it
Speaker 4: and there's not There's not much polling. There's not really
Speaker 4: any polling because of how recently he announced his bid
Speaker 4: to show how well he's doing. Other than that, the
Speaker 4: video has got like two and a half million views
Speaker 4: something like that, which which is good and seems to
Speaker 4: be spreading well online, but that doesn't translate electorally. What
Speaker 4: we do have electorally is that polls in Maine show
Speaker 4: that the Democratic Party is historically unpopular, including with Democrats.
Speaker 4: This is from a July survey. There's a good article
Speaker 4: in PBS that's just titled they roll right over many
Speaker 4: Democrats think their party is weak ap n RC whole finds.
Speaker 4: Oh sorry, this is actually no, sorry, this is overall
Speaker 4: across US adults.
Speaker 3: Sorry.
Speaker 4: The initial article I had seemed to be saying that
Speaker 4: it was this was just in May. No, this is
Speaker 4: this is nationwide. Right, So, I mean, I think that
Speaker 4: what Platner has seen, the opportunity he's seen, is real.
Speaker 4: Then there are a lot of people who are not
Speaker 4: at all interested in voting for a Republican, who have
Speaker 4: not been swayed to the right, who identify as Democrats
Speaker 4: but hate the party and think it is weak. Right,
Speaker 4: Like about two inten Democrats, according to this poll, describe
Speaker 4: their party positively. One intent said it was empathetic and inclusive.
Speaker 4: That's terrible, right, And that is that I mean, that
Speaker 4: shows that just what we were saying, kind of based
Speaker 4: on our gut, which is it's a bad idea to
Speaker 4: hang people out to dry because you don't think you
Speaker 4: can defend them. You think that it'll be beneficial politically
Speaker 4: to make the choice to, you know, let them die basically. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And it seems like Democrats largely are responding by saying, well,
Speaker 4: this party doesn't give a shit about us, and they
Speaker 4: are ineffective. They can't do fuck all. Right, Yeah, and
Speaker 4: that's definitely what's happening. So yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 4: Platner is going to win, but I'm growing more convinced
Speaker 4: every day that there's opportunity for people who are actually
Speaker 4: willing to fight these bastards. Yeah, and you understanding that
Speaker 4: fighting these bad isn't just like, well, let's give them
Speaker 4: almost everything they want and hope that somehow lets us win.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Talking of like not leaving people out to dry, for instance,
Speaker 2: talking about trans women in sports, he says it's a
Speaker 2: distraction from the things that impact Americans materially every single day.
Speaker 2: Then he said, I'm dedicated to a quality and justice
Speaker 2: for all in this country. And I think the specific
Speaker 2: topic has become such a touchstone of the media discussion
Speaker 2: because it pulls away from the conversation that needs to
Speaker 2: be happening, which is getting every American affordable healthcare. It's
Speaker 2: not the best response, it's not the worst one either, Like,
Speaker 2: and I think he is right. For most of these
Speaker 2: conservative people, they don't care about women's sports, right, They're
Speaker 2: not there when women are getting shit prized, many women
Speaker 2: are getting shit TV time. This for them is just
Speaker 2: a culture war issue. He also called the genocide and
Speaker 2: Gazara a genocide, which is something that it's like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I enjoyed the line about where we're just killing
Speaker 4: kids with bombs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that he didn't mince his words
Speaker 2: about it. When asked by ABC, he said he's following
Speaker 2: the leader of Israeli scholars on genocide on this issue.
Speaker 2: So yeah, Like it's remarkably easy, right to build a
Speaker 2: coalition right now of people who are fucking mad And
Speaker 2: a lot of people voted for Donald Trump because they
Speaker 2: were sick of this same smami bullshit. Some of them
Speaker 2: are to vote Johnald Trump because a hateful, terrible, fucking people. Right,
Speaker 2: just to be super clear, Yeah, but like it's so easy,
Speaker 2: and yet it seems to be evading, Like you say,
Speaker 2: the presumptive nominee that this guy who for for nearly
Speaker 2: a decade. We have assumed we'll run in twenty twenty eight,
Speaker 2: and I guess I know. Fuck Gavin Newsom. I hope
Speaker 2: that he does not succeed with his presidential campaign missions.
Speaker 4: Yep, all right, well that's yeah, most of what I
Speaker 4: got to say about that son of a bit.
Speaker 3: Yep, me too.
Speaker 2: Let's roll out, Bye bye.
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