1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Al Zon Media. 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 2: All Right, it could happen here. It's me, it's Robert, 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: and we are gathered here today to talk about one 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: of the most annoying things that can happen on your telephone, 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: which is that you can be sent a tweet from 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom. 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 3: Which is just no one needed that. 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: It's already really bad. I see really bad things on 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: my telephone every day. I don't need to see a 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: tweet from Gavin Newsom. If you're not familiar with this, 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 2: you're living a better life than me, and I'm proud 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: of you. But I'm going to give you some context 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 2: here for those of you who are not familiar. Gavin 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: Newsom is the governor of California. He's also kind of 15 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: been the presumptive of twenty twenty eight Democratic candidate for 16 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: quite a while. He's term limited out running for California 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: governor again, so he won't be doing that, and his 18 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: term will end in January of twenty twenty seven. He 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: had for a while to I to dismiss claims that 20 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: he was interested in the presidency, but he's been a 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 2: lot more of about it recently. Yeh, I don't believe 22 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: any claims that he was not interested in this for 23 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: a long time. He has definitely tried to cast himself 24 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: this summer as the sort of leader of the resistance 25 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: type figure. Yeah, he hasn't done that by, for instance, 26 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,279 Speaker 2: ordering the California National Guard to go home, protecting people 27 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: from the massmen with guns snatching them in the street, 28 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: or even standing up for trans kids. Instead, he has 29 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: focused on I guess what you could generously call Twitter trolling, 30 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: like it's well, we're going to get into it. It's 31 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: extremely annoying. So about a week ago now, I think 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 2: the eleventh of August was when he began newso began 33 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: his social media rebrand. He did this by posting about 34 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: himself in all caps as America's favorite governor. His posts 35 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: since then have mimicked the mc donald. Trump has a 36 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: pretty distinctive posting style, right, Yeah, Newsom's have written in 37 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: all caps. Trump doesn't tend to do. Trump tends to 38 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: capitalize sporadically and as far as I can tell, entirely randomly. 39 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: But Newsom's doing it in all caps. He uses over 40 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: uses exclamation marks. I should say, this beef between the 41 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 2: two of them is not new right. Trump has has 42 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: called him new scum on true social and I don't 43 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: think Trump can claim the intellectual property to new scum. 44 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: I've seen that one. Yeah, yeah, like it's up there 45 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: with like hair Gel, Hitler and Ussolini. Like yeah, anyway, 46 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: if you if you're buying a firearm in California, you 47 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: will hear someone say one of these things almost without fail. 48 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 49 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: The claim that Newsom's team is making is that he's 50 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: like holding up a mirror to Trump's bigot treaty by 51 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 2: doing this Trump style posting. But I think in doing so, 52 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: he's really illustrated the difference between them is not as 53 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: profound as you'd think or hope. He in one example 54 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 2: called Scott Presler Nancy Mace. It's got Presler, gay conservative 55 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: right wing figure, and then he was called out for 56 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: missed gendering presla Bay. This will shock and amaze you 57 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: Tommy Lauren. 58 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 3: Wow. 59 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, which yeah, no one knows, Okay, Yeah, he responded, quote, 60 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: you sound woke. This really isn't funny. It's just bigotry, 61 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: Like comparing gay men to women is an old, worn 62 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: out and lazy jab. 63 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 64 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: So when you combine this with him having right wing 65 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: figures like Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon on his. 66 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 4: Podcast and it just for reference, folks. I don't know 67 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 4: how much detail we can get into legally here, but 68 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 4: this being our business, we are aware of the numbers 69 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 4: different podcasts do. And Gavin Newsom's podcast is not like 70 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 4: it does. Okay, but there's certain podcasts about, for example, 71 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 4: bad people in history that lap at several times. So 72 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 4: like the star power that Gavin Newsom has, I'm not 73 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 4: seeing it. We're not talking about a guy who has 74 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 4: shown evidence that he is capable of on his own 75 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 4: generating like a super loyal fan base or continued interest 76 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: in his personality. Now I'm not saying that's that on 77 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 4: its own. Is it's a bad thing. A lot of 78 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: politicians who are very competent at certain things are not 79 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 4: competent at that, And in fact, most of the worst 80 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 4: politicians we have are also the people who are the 81 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 4: best at that and building a fan. 82 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: Base, so to speak. 83 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is that Gavin Newsom is obsessed 84 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 4: with doing something, being this Trumpian populist figure that he 85 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 4: has not exhibited faculty for right. Yes, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, no, 86 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 4: And that's what I'm saying too. 87 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 2: Is a he's confusing engagement with actual political action, right. 88 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 4: And he's confusing the kind of engagement that you get 89 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 4: on social media when it's someone else's algorithm, And a 90 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 4: lot of the engagement is like, not people who are 91 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 4: going to vote for you or support you, but people 92 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 4: who the algorithm is pushing your content to because it 93 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 4: knows they'll get pissed off off by it, right, exactly 94 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 4: that I'm not against you know, pissing off conservatives, but 95 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 4: that doesn't help you necessarily, right, Like, there's not a 96 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 4: clear benefit to us in this. 97 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, good things piss off conservatives, but pissing off conservatives 98 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: and not inherently a good to a useful thing. It's 99 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: just a thing. 100 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 3: It's not enough, right, Like, I again, it can be. 101 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 4: I'm not sometimes that's necessary just for morale purposes alone. 102 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 4: But again, I don't really think Gavin Newsom is making 103 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 4: the right scared. I don't think he's breaking their morale. 104 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 4: I think he's just kind of creating content that people 105 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 4: on the left are sharing because it pisses them off. 106 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 4: People on the right are sharing because it makes them laugh. 107 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 4: I think they think it's sad more than anything else. 108 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 4: And obviously You've got a chunk of like a decent 109 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 4: chunk of like centrist dim types who like Newsome, and 110 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 4: I guess maybe it's working for some of them, but 111 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 4: I don't think it's broadening his support. I think there's 112 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 4: a single voter, especially in a swing state, who was, 113 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 4: like I wasn't wasn't going to vote for Gavin Newsom 114 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 4: until I saw him mimicking Donald Trump's tweets. 115 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly like he is doing, in a sense what 116 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: Harris did, which is this consistently failed Democrat political strategy 117 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 2: that they seem so addicted to that no amount of 118 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: losing will break them of it, which is moving to 119 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: the right to try and capture moderate Republicans. Right, They've 120 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: done this. Everything's Trump took the Republican Party closer closer 121 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: to fascism, right. Like, I want to give an example 122 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: of this, his Gavin Uson talking to Sean Ryan about 123 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 2: transgender athletes. 124 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 5: I'll be cannon with you. I looked at that issue 125 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 5: and I said, boy, they're just exploiting this. It's a 126 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 5: handful of people. What the hell is this? It's been weaponized. 127 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 5: It was just another cultural issue. Intel two years ago, 128 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 5: there was a state track championship. We had a trans 129 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 5: athlete that was successful and there was a video of 130 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 5: the girl that lost and she was devastated. Video one 131 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 5: around everywhere and it was very emotional. I was very real. 132 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 5: I remember calling my team man, I said, this is legit, 133 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 5: and I did this podcast with Charlie Kirk. Unsurprisingly, he 134 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 5: brought it up and he said, tell me, that's not fair. 135 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 5: I said, it's not fair. You're right. My party was pissed. 136 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 5: LGBTQCCUS furious with me because I don't think it's fair. 137 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 6: It's not. 138 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 5: But because you oppose sports doesn't make you homophobic, and 139 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 5: my party needs to stop saying that. 140 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 4: Yeah again, I know who he thinks this is going 141 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 4: to help. He believes it's a religion. Effectively, among a 142 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 4: lot of establishment dims that there's a whole huge chunk 143 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 4: of voters who are just itching to vote for a 144 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 4: Democrat if they weren't in favor of all of these 145 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 4: icky cultural issues that are hard to touch that the 146 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 4: right is. You know, it spends so much time harping on, 147 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 4: and I think part of what they're seeing and where 148 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 4: a lot of the logical disconnect comes into effect, is 149 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 4: that they see how much money conservatives and time and 150 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 4: discourse conservatives spend talking about this and obsessing over it, 151 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 4: and they believe, well, oh, if we if we just 152 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 4: kind of fold on these people, then we've taken this 153 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 4: great weapon out of their arsenal, and they'll be helpless 154 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 4: because they're stupid. And I don't think these are fundamentally 155 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 4: very smart people in the political sense of the world. 156 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: I think they bad politicians. I think they're bad. I 157 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 4: think they were good politicians in terms of a competency 158 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 4: sense at a prior age to get to where they were, 159 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 4: But the ground has changed, and intelligence is largely a 160 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 4: product of adaptability, and they have not proven adaptable. And 161 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 4: I think what's actually going to happen, because we've seen 162 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 4: this is if they throw trans people under the bus, 163 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 4: as they're actively talking about doing, the right will grab 164 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 4: another chunk of their coalition and start ruthlessly trying to 165 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 4: destroy that group of people, and these people's suggestion will 166 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 4: once again be Okay, well, we got to, you know, 167 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 4: throw those people under the bus, because then we'll deny 168 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 4: them that weapon, and eventually you won't have any Democrats left, 169 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 4: Like yeah. 170 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: Right, they'll come after same sex marriage. I'll come after 171 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: fucking interracial marriage, and Newsom will try and find the middle. 172 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 173 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: Like where he has received praise for this is in 174 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 2: the legacy media. I want to quote here from a 175 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: caw Matter's op ed, which suggests that Newsom was quote 176 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 2: someone trying to hold space for a hard conversation in 177 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 2: his podcast, He's not. 178 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 4: You don't have conversations with Charlie Kirk. He's never had 179 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 4: a real one in his life. 180 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, the conversation is not hard to have, right, trans 181 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: people deserve the same fucking rights as everyone else. It's 182 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: very easy to have. Also, he's having this conversation with 183 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: someone who agrees with him, Like, I would love to 184 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: see him tell a young trans woman that she can't 185 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: play on the fucking third string the high school volleyball team, 186 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: because then he's going to see a kid cry too. 187 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 2: I don't want to go over the like trans people 188 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: can compete sports, like I've made my living as an 189 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: athlete for much of my life. This is bullshit, and 190 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 2: it's fundamentally disrespectful to women athletes to continue to suggest 191 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: it they're biologically inferior. But I do want to talk 192 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: more about Gavin you some slide into mean politics. His 193 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 2: press office claimed that after the fires in LA the 194 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 2: claim this in New York Times in a piece of 195 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 2: our link, he was troubled by the misinformation that came out. 196 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: Apparently was his first fucking time in encountering misinformation on 197 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 2: the internet. 198 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 3: Like oh wow. 199 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, when you think about the ease with which 200 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:32,599 Speaker 2: he lies, right, yeah, absolute comfort he has bullshitting It 201 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 2: sort of makes sense until it hits him. He doesn't 202 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 2: care because he's lying too. So they decided to take 203 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: the fight to the internet. I guess they began with 204 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: Star Wars memes. And then when the redistricting debate in Texas, 205 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: we've covered extensively on executive disorder, was kind of reaching 206 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: his peak. Newsom sort of begun this. I know you are, 207 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: you said you are, but what am I kind of 208 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: tendency in his posting, he posted in all block capitals, 209 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: I'm not going to shout Donald Trump. If you do 210 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: not stand down, we will be forced to leave an 211 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 2: effort to redraw the maps in CAA to offset the 212 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 2: rigging of maps in red states. But if the other 213 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: states call off their redistricting efforts, we will do the same. 214 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: Thank you for your attention on this match. Sorry, it's 215 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 2: hard to read because it's entirely unpunctuated apart from at 216 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: the end there these tweets aren't on his personal account 217 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: or the official governor of California one. They're on an 218 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 2: account called governor use some press office. But that count 219 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: does have their little gray tick mark that you can 220 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: get in Twitter now for like government accounts. Then he 221 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: moved on to AI generated images and signing his post 222 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: with initials like Trump does, claiming Kid Rock had endorsed him, 223 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: which isn't true. Incidentally, they did this exactly a year 224 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 2: after Donald Trump posted an AI generated image of Taylor 225 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 2: Swift with the Swifties for Trump montage, which shows how 226 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 2: much time they spend looking at Trump's post rather than 227 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: doing anything fucking useful. Then they moved onto mocking Greg 228 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: Abbott for using a wheelchair, saying he rolled over for 229 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: Trump again, like, you do not build a political coalition 230 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: by mocking people with disabilities. There are a million things 231 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 2: to fucking hate Greg Abbot, for I could spend an 232 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: hour talking about the loathsome shit that he has done, 233 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 2: but using a wheelchair is not one of those things. 234 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 2: If you cannot find anything else that really shows a 235 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: paucity of democratic politics. Right now, let's take a break 236 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: and we'll come back. 237 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 3: Awesome, All right, we're back. 238 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, and probably predictively, Newsom has received praise from all 239 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: over the legacy and media for these posts. The NYT quoted, 240 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: it's actually unclear of they quoted. I don't know if 241 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: this was just a mistake that they haven't corrected. But 242 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: it was phrased like she said it directly, but it 243 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: wasn't in quotation marks, so I'm a little clear. I'm 244 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: just going to assume they quoted this. 245 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 6: Lady. 246 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: Sarah Roberts, a director for the Center of Critical Internet 247 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: Inquiry UCLA, said quote, mister Nuisan's posts are perhaps grabbing 248 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 2: so much attention because they stand out for the rest 249 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: of Democratic party's ineffective approach of playing its safe and 250 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 2: proceeding as if it's business as usual. And then just 251 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: to double down on this useful podcast idiot John Favreau 252 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: tweeted quote, I mean it's pretty clearly a parody of 253 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: Trump's absolutely insane, all caps off to nonsensical posts. Probably 254 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: while all the people in my life you aren't political junkies, 255 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: keep reaching out to say they don't know much about Newsom, 256 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: but think the tweets are hilarious, humor and mockery can 257 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: be quite effective. Neither of them say what they are 258 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: effective for. Right, No one seems concerned that these make 259 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: no material difference, and he is doing them instead of 260 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: doing things that make material difference. 261 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 3: Right. 262 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 2: I'm going to play another clip from Chris Hayes here 263 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 2: off you. 264 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 7: Governor Gavin Newsom and his team have figured out a 265 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 7: very entertaining way to deal with Donald trumpet As a 266 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 7: rhetorical level, They've got a new social media strategy that 267 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 7: is both I got to say, pretty damn funny and 268 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 7: I think extremely effective, mocking the president with a spot 269 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 7: on impression of his very weird communication stock. Since Newsom 270 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 7: jumped into the ongoing redistricting fight, his official Twitter account 271 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 7: has been posting Trump style. Donald has finished, he is 272 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 7: no longer hot. First the hand so tiny, and now 273 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 7: me Gavin C. Newson have taken away his step. Many 274 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 7: are saying, we can't even do the big stairs on 275 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 7: Air Force one anymore. 276 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 6: Uses the little baby stairs now sad as. 277 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 7: All the Trump trademarks, all capital letters, random quotation marks, 278 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 7: little parentheticals, complete unhinged absurdity. 279 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 6: I thought that was a good one. 280 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 7: I hate Kid Rock GCN reference to Trump's infamous I 281 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 7: hate Taylor Swift, another drags a vice president to it. 282 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 7: Not even JD just Dance Vans can save Trump from 283 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 7: the disastrous maps war he has started. Not even his 284 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 7: eyeliner lines look as pretty as California map lines. 285 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 6: He will fail as he always does. 286 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 7: Sad and I, the peacetime governor of our nation's favorite, 287 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 7: will save America once again. Many are now calling me 288 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 7: Gavin Christopher Columbus Newsom because of the maps. Thank you 289 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 7: for your attention to this matter. Beyond the mockery of 290 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 7: Trump's text post, Newsom has also been posting Trump style 291 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 7: AI generated images of himself, including this I think absolute 292 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 7: masterpiece of Newsom, deep in a moment of reflection or 293 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 7: prayer bank by three Maga icons and the laying of 294 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 7: hands Kid Rock, who he hates, Tucker Carlson, and the 295 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 7: angelic spirit of the recently departed Hulk Hogan again a 296 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 7: spot on mockery of Trump, who isn't doing any of 297 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 7: this satirically. What has been equally hilarious has been to 298 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 7: watch the joke just go soaring over the heads of 299 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 7: Trump's sick of fants in the. 300 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 6: Media for the last week. 301 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 8: Gavin Newsom, and why am I giving him advice? You 302 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 8: had to stop it with the Twitter thing. I don't 303 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 8: know where his wife is. I want his wife. I 304 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 8: would say, you are making a fool of yourself. Stop it, 305 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 8: Do not let your staff tweet. And if you're doing 306 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 8: it yourself, put the phone away and start over. And 307 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 8: if you want. He's got a big job as governor 308 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 8: of California, but if he wants an even bigger job, 309 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 8: he has to be a little bit more serious. 310 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 6: Yes, right, be more serious. 311 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 7: Stop posting exactly like the president the United States does. 312 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 7: Newsome's account responded to that advice quote, Dana ding Dong 313 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 7: Pirino never heard of her till today is melting down. 314 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 6: Because of me. God and C. Newsom. 315 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 7: Fox hate that I am America's most favorite governor ratings 316 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 7: King saving America. Trump has lost his step and Fox 317 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 7: is losing it because when I'm type American that wins. 318 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 7: Thank you for your attention this matter again. It is 319 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 7: just it is a stark reminder with someone else doing 320 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 7: it of how truly utterly deranged our current president sounds 321 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 7: whenever he communicates and also how accustomed we've all become 322 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 7: to this very very weird behavior. 323 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: I know, we wouldn't be talking about this suse he 324 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: was just bad tweets, Right, We're talking about it because 325 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: I think he shows a fundamental inability of the DNC 326 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: to meet the moment right now. 327 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're talking about it because people are dying and 328 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 4: more people will die as a result of this administration's policies. 329 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 4: Other people are being imprisoned, and like I, you know, 330 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 4: the damage being done you know, to medical science, to 331 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 4: the future of humanity, to the future of this country 332 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 4: is tremendous and escalating. And the fact that like this 333 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 4: is the best a major a major contender for the 334 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 4: Democratic presidential candidate in twenty twenty eight has been able 335 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 4: to pull. 336 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 3: Out so far, is like terrifying. 337 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 4: And again, obviously no one should be reliant upon the dims. 338 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 3: But unfortunately also like what are you got to do? 339 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 3: What am I going to do? Right? 340 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 4: I don't have the resources of the Democratic Party, I 341 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 4: don't have a bunch of elected leaders listening to me. Like, 342 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 4: because of the status of our situation, individual people in 343 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 4: small groups and towns, and you know, we talk about 344 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 4: mutual aid on this show we talk about unions. All 345 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 4: of these increased personal resiliency. They increase the ability of 346 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 4: groups and of individuals within groups to be resilient. But 347 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 4: none of that is going to stop the fucking DHS 348 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 4: from turning into the SS. Right, Yeah, and the Democratic 349 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 4: Party clearly fucking isn't either. But the fact that this 350 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 4: is what they're doing instead of effective resistance is I mean, 351 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 4: it's important. I wish there was more to say than 352 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 4: we should know how badly they're failing. 353 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 2: Us, right, Yeah, like a world where Democrat gets elected 354 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty eight, it's getting less awful less quickly, 355 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 2: and we should want yes, right, Like, I'm not one 356 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: of these Like acceleration is no. 357 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 3: I just I don't think that's going to help either. 358 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, look right now, it is accelerating, and 359 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 2: it is bad. There are so many obvious challenges Democrats 360 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: can make. And I want to play Robert, have you 361 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: seen this Graham Planter for Senate campaign? 362 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 3: Ad? No, may not? 363 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to play this for you, Like 364 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 2: I think it's it's good as a contrast, right. 365 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: But I love most about many of the people I 366 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: have never met, people who are more hard scrabble, even 367 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: in a place that requires you to work like two 368 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: or three different jobs. We have watched this state become 369 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: essentially unlivable for working class people, and it makes me 370 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: deeply angry. My name is Graham Plattner, and I'm running 371 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: for US Senate and Maine to defeat Susan Collins. A 372 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: decade of military service, going overseas, farming oysters to feed 373 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: my community, diving to lend a hand to other fishermen, 374 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: trying to start a family. But everywhere I've gone, it 375 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: seems like the fabric of what holds us together is 376 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: being ripped apart by billionaires and corrupt politicians profiting off 377 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: of destroying our environment, driving our families into poverty, and 378 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: crushing the middle class. I did four infantry tours in 379 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: the Marine Corps in the Army. I'm not afraid to 380 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: name an enemy, and the enemy is the oligarchy. It's 381 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: the billionaires who pay for it, the politicians who sell 382 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: us out. And yeah, that means politicians like Susan Collins. 383 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: I'm not fooled by this fake charade of Collins deliberations 384 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: and moderation. The difference between Susan Collins and Ted Cruz 385 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,959 Speaker 1: is at least Ted Cruz is honest about selling us 386 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: out and not giving a damn. People know that the 387 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: system is screwing them. They know it in their bones. 388 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: Nobody I know around here can afford a house. Healthcare 389 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: is a disaster. Hospitals are closing. We have watched all 390 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: of that get ripped away from us, and everyone just 391 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: trying to keep it all together. Why can't we have 392 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: universal health care like every other. 393 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 3: First world country. 394 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: Why can't we take care of our veterans when they 395 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: come home. Why are we funding endless wars and bombing children? 396 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: Why are CEO is more powerful than unions? We fought 397 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: three different wars since the last time we raised a 398 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: minimum wage. I'm not pretending to have all the answers, 399 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: but I know that I'm asking the very questions. When 400 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: I tell people around here that I'm running for Senate, 401 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: sometimes the initial reaction is what. But when I tell 402 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: them why, I'm doing it because I truly do believe 403 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: that we can build a system that is going to 404 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: represent working people. The number one response has been, well, 405 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: thank god, somebody's going to do it. You're supposed to 406 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: fight the things you love. This is our home, and 407 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: I will fight tirelessly for it for you. It's Mayner's 408 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: first in Maine always. 409 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 3: I mean, that didn't seem bad. No, it's good. That's 410 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 3: that's a solid ad. 411 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like the BA is reasonably low. But like 412 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 2: that dude hit it, I think. 413 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, yeah, like I would say that's just 414 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 4: outright good, like if I were if I were crafting 415 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 4: an ad to run from other than the fact that 416 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 4: he's lived a different life, but like how he's talking 417 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 4: about the oligarchy, how he's talking about the lack of 418 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 4: progress on things like minimum wage and how unacceptable it is, 419 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 4: and like how the difference between Susan Collins and Ted 420 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 4: Cruise is that at least Ted Cruise is honest. 421 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I'm on board this guy. This guy seems 422 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 3: like he rips. 423 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 2: I would vote for that dude, Like yeah, sure, he 424 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 2: might turn into a fucking fatimen, but like. 425 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 4: I mean, they can all get milkshake ducked. But he's 426 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: saying the right things at this point. 427 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's remarkably straightforward, right, Like yeah, and yet that 428 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 2: seems to evade most Democrats. 429 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 3: He's got the audio of a car ad. But I 430 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 3: guess if it works. It works. That's the thing. 431 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm not familiar with the Platinu race, 432 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 4: so I'm not sure where the polling showing. 433 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: This video is like two days old, Like he's extremely fresh. 434 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, I will say that visually it hangs together. Dude, 435 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: us is the same open cell wetsuit. 436 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 5: I do. 437 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: Like, he didn't just buy all this shit, Like, didn't 438 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 2: buy an axe and chopping for the first time in 439 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 2: this video, right right. 440 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 4: Right, He didn't do the normal weird democrat trying to 441 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 4: reach out to a rural thing of like posing awkwardly 442 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 4: with a shotgun. 443 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like this is a dude, and just like 444 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 2: physically he appears to have done some work with his hands. 445 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks like a working class guy. 446 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's compare this to like Newsome has not done 447 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 2: the material things that he could be doing instead of tweeting. Right, 448 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 2: Trump didn't call it the California National Guy. In the 449 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: Insurrection Act, he used Title ten, section yeah one two 450 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 2: four zero six of the US Code that section state's 451 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 2: orders for these purposes should be issued through the governors 452 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: of the states. It also outlined protigues for DC which 453 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 2: we don't care about. 454 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 6: Here. 455 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 2: I didn't see why he could at least try to 456 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 2: force the issue in ordering the guard to go home. 457 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: He's pursuing a court case yet, but leg forced the 458 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: crisis because we're already in one. He has not taken 459 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: a single meaningful action to stop ice snatching people from 460 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 2: our communities in California, nor has his Attorney General taken 461 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 2: a single meaningful action to stop individual sheriff's departments from 462 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 2: violating SB fifty four. SB fifty four, if you're not 463 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: familiar as a California Values Act, which limits which inmates 464 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 2: can be transferred to ICE custody and when. It doesn't 465 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 2: oblige anyone to transfer them, but it does allow them 466 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 2: to transfer them if certain felonies have been committed in 467 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 2: the last fifteen years. The San Diego Sheriff has been 468 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 2: accused of violating this are linked to a KPBS article 469 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 2: on that where they transferred to someone who, according to 470 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: claims in the article, had a twenty one year old conviction. 471 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 2: Where As I said, before the cutoff fifteen years, Newsom 472 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: could do something about the surveillance which is being installed 473 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 2: all over California. These licensed plates readers at the ones 474 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: at San Diego has spent thousands, if not billions, of 475 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: dollars on these license plate readers have had their information 476 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: shared with federal agencies more than one hundred times in 477 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 2: May alone. According to cal Matters, that is a violation 478 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 2: of California law. Specifically, it's Senate Bill thirty four, which 479 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: limits the sharing of licensed plate data. Rob Buntter issued 480 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 2: an advisory, but again, this is resulting in our communities 481 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 2: being harassed, right, Californians being snatched. Newsom has done nothing 482 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 2: about that. He could stand up for ant house people, 483 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 2: but instead, alongside Todd Glory, he has led the charge 484 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: against Todd Gloria is seemingly intent on driving our city 485 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 2: into debt to pursue Castro approach. 486 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 3: Against Sea unhoused. 487 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: Newsom posed for a photo shoot, destroying unhow's people's property. 488 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 2: He hasn't done a single thing that puts him at 489 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 2: any risk. Right. He's presenting himself in this Sean ram 490 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 2: podcast the big risk taker because he spoke out about 491 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 2: fucking teenage girls running, right, But he hasn't put his 492 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: neck on the line once for marginalized people in California. 493 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 3: You're anywhere else, absolutely not. 494 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 2: I think where I want to end is I don't 495 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: want you to engage with nuisance tweets like that doesn't help. 496 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: He's going to mistake that for making a difference, right, 497 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 2: because I think for a lot of people in the 498 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 2: legacy media and probably knew some of his friends, the 499 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 2: real tragedy of what's happened in the last eight months 500 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: is that they have to see scary, nasty stuff on 501 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: their telephones. So seeing something funny on their telephone seems 502 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 2: like an antidote because it's not their community, it's not 503 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: their people, and it's not people they fundamentally give a 504 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 2: shit about either. That I think is why to them 505 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 2: this seems effective, and hopefully to you, as it does 506 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: to me, it seems completely effective. 507 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 6: Yeah. 508 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 4: I don't know how much else to say. It's nice 509 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 4: to see guys like Platner at least seem to be 510 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 4: figuring it out. There's not I've been looking into it 511 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 4: and there's not There's not much polling. There's not really 512 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 4: any polling because of how recently he announced his bid 513 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 4: to show how well he's doing. Other than that, the 514 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 4: video has got like two and a half million views 515 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 4: something like that, which which is good and seems to 516 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 4: be spreading well online, but that doesn't translate electorally. What 517 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 4: we do have electorally is that polls in Maine show 518 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 4: that the Democratic Party is historically unpopular, including with Democrats. 519 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 4: This is from a July survey. There's a good article 520 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 4: in PBS that's just titled they roll right over many 521 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 4: Democrats think their party is weak ap n RC whole finds. 522 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 4: Oh sorry, this is actually no, sorry, this is overall 523 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 4: across US adults. 524 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 3: Sorry. 525 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 4: The initial article I had seemed to be saying that 526 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 4: it was this was just in May. No, this is 527 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 4: this is nationwide. Right, So, I mean, I think that 528 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 4: what Platner has seen, the opportunity he's seen, is real. 529 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 4: Then there are a lot of people who are not 530 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 4: at all interested in voting for a Republican, who have 531 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 4: not been swayed to the right, who identify as Democrats 532 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 4: but hate the party and think it is weak. Right, 533 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 4: Like about two inten Democrats, according to this poll, describe 534 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 4: their party positively. One intent said it was empathetic and inclusive. 535 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 4: That's terrible, right, And that is that I mean, that 536 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 4: shows that just what we were saying, kind of based 537 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 4: on our gut, which is it's a bad idea to 538 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 4: hang people out to dry because you don't think you 539 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 4: can defend them. You think that it'll be beneficial politically 540 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 4: to make the choice to, you know, let them die basically. Yeah, 541 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 4: And it seems like Democrats largely are responding by saying, well, 542 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 4: this party doesn't give a shit about us, and they 543 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 4: are ineffective. They can't do fuck all. Right, Yeah, and 544 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 4: that's definitely what's happening. So yeah, I don't know if 545 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 4: Platner is going to win, but I'm growing more convinced 546 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 4: every day that there's opportunity for people who are actually 547 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 4: willing to fight these bastards. Yeah, and you understanding that 548 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 4: fighting these bad isn't just like, well, let's give them 549 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 4: almost everything they want and hope that somehow lets us win. 550 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah. 551 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 2: Talking of like not leaving people out to dry, for instance, 552 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 2: talking about trans women in sports, he says it's a 553 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: distraction from the things that impact Americans materially every single day. 554 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: Then he said, I'm dedicated to a quality and justice 555 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 2: for all in this country. And I think the specific 556 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: topic has become such a touchstone of the media discussion 557 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 2: because it pulls away from the conversation that needs to 558 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 2: be happening, which is getting every American affordable healthcare. It's 559 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: not the best response, it's not the worst one either, Like, 560 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 2: and I think he is right. For most of these 561 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: conservative people, they don't care about women's sports, right, They're 562 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 2: not there when women are getting shit prized, many women 563 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 2: are getting shit TV time. This for them is just 564 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 2: a culture war issue. He also called the genocide and 565 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 2: Gazara a genocide, which is something that it's like. 566 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I enjoyed the line about where we're just killing 567 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 4: kids with bombs. 568 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that he didn't mince his words 569 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 2: about it. When asked by ABC, he said he's following 570 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: the leader of Israeli scholars on genocide on this issue. 571 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, Like it's remarkably easy, right to build a 572 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 2: coalition right now of people who are fucking mad And 573 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 2: a lot of people voted for Donald Trump because they 574 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 2: were sick of this same smami bullshit. Some of them 575 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: are to vote Johnald Trump because a hateful, terrible, fucking people. Right, 576 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 2: just to be super clear, Yeah, but like it's so easy, 577 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 2: and yet it seems to be evading, Like you say, 578 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 2: the presumptive nominee that this guy who for for nearly 579 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 2: a decade. We have assumed we'll run in twenty twenty eight, 580 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 2: and I guess I know. Fuck Gavin Newsom. I hope 581 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: that he does not succeed with his presidential campaign missions. 582 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 4: Yep, all right, well that's yeah, most of what I 583 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 4: got to say about that son of a bit. 584 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 3: Yep, me too. 585 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 2: Let's roll out, Bye bye. 586 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 3: It Could Happen Here is a production of cool Zone Media. 587 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 8: For more podcasts from cool Zone Media, visit our website 588 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 8: cool Zonemedia dot com, or check us out on the 589 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 8: iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts. 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