1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: Radio Radio Radio com He's a Myth and Bullshit, a 2 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: radiophonic novella Local Radio hosted by Malamn. Welcome to season 3 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: three of Local Radio Rosas. Because fem revenge has never 4 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: sounded so sweet. Look at Our Radio is a radiophonic 5 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: novella archiving the legacies and brilliance of women and fems 6 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: of color. I'm Visa and we are less mommies of 7 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: myth and Bullshit. Last radio radio phonic novella, which is 8 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: just really a very extra way of saying a podcast. 9 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: So welcome back, welcome back, Thank you for tuning in, 10 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in. Last time on Look at 11 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: the Radio, we discussed victim blaming, Jordan's Woods, the Kardashian scandal, 12 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: and toxic friendships. And as you know, Look at our 13 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: Radio we always record here at Radio Espasio in boil Heights, 14 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: hosted out of ESPACI nine. This is a community radio station, 15 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: a community space. Thank you for joining us. So we 16 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: have a exclusive interview that we are going to be 17 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: um sharing today. So before we share that in your interview, 18 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: we want to discuss some announcements and also doing a 19 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,279 Speaker 1: segment of locas. So first off, we want to remind 20 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: our listeners. 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You know, we pay for things out of pocket. 40 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: Gigs our work. We have some paid ads now, but 41 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: our costs continue to rise as we grow, right as 42 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: can be expected. So if you would like to, you know, 43 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: contribute one way or another to the podcast and to 44 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: the production of the podcast, you can always hit our venmo. 45 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: You can venmo us at local dash radio and leave 46 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: us a little note, say a little something if you 47 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: hit the venmo and maybe we'll share it on air. Yes. Also, 48 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to share um the shirt that I'm wearing 49 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: that says fem labor is not free because it's not. 50 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: It's not pay for fem labor. Would whether that be emotional, mental, physical, whatever, 51 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: pay for that it's labor um. And this shirt was 52 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: actually gifted to me from got Salva Merch, so I 53 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: will link that somewhere on the GRAM so y'all can 54 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: check it out. Yeah, I got the salvare Um, I 55 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: got a tank, Yes, I got the Salva tank. And 56 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: it says men is short for mental mento sauce and true, 57 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: which is true. Um. If you listen to our last episode, 58 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: we talked about that in depth at length. Right. One 59 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: of my favorite like the chose is like or sayings 60 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: is you can't spell disappointment without men, Well, you can't 61 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: spell mentors and menthatos is without men. I'm seeing a connection, right, 62 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: there's something that, there's something there, there's a truth here. Right, 63 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: word men, the Latin word form and theos what's the 64 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: root it's men. And yeah, so check out merch. We 65 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: will tag her. Thank you girl, thank you. All right, 66 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: So now we're jumping into our segment of Oya Lokas. 67 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: What is your favorite bad word used to describe mohs. So, 68 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: of course, bitch is a great one. I love bitch. 69 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: It's been reclaimed. We say bitch every day, all day, 70 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: at all times. I love the word. It's a good one. Strong. Yes, 71 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: I loved it a lot of I love that sex 72 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: workers use it. I love that it's been reclaimed. Um 73 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: and I've heard, I've seen and whenever the women get 74 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: into a fight, they always use the word soa And 75 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: I think I like that word. I don't know, I 76 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: like it. I like that And that word has been 77 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: used to describe me but for an ex boyfriend's like family, 78 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: they were like referring to me as that, and so like, yeah, 79 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: I'm down a personal personal personal connections that next you 80 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: can combine them right, they sound good, right, Sam, all together? Um, 81 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: there's so many good ones. There's so many good ones. 82 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: I've noticed. Remember TVT to that anonymous man that called 83 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: this horri kuns for kuns. I don't know who uses 84 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: the word who anymore. All I know is how All 85 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: I know is well, hory kunz. And that was that 86 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: was a creative use of those words, right right, So 87 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: you know, hoy kunz. We have a story off of 88 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: that one. Thank you, anonymous man, Thank you anonymous man. 89 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: I also like some old school like hussys. A good 90 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: hussy's a good one. Tramp tramp, that's a good one. Suckubus, 91 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: nobody uses sus, bring back subs, nobody using I'm starting 92 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: a campaign claim saccubus. I'm into it. I'm here for it, 93 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: right right, you know what. So the thing is is 94 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: there's so many derogatory words for women. We have a 95 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: lot to choose, a lot. I really like, do you 96 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: remember in Greece do you remember like the like possible 97 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: like Latina character cha cha. I love the way they 98 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: talk about her, vaguely, vaguely Latina. She goes to St Therese, 99 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: yes the best dancer, and yeah, you know you know 100 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: if she's Latina. Yes, I'm thinking I'm thinking of Saint 101 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: Terse from something else. Yes, you are anyway anyway? So um, yeah, 102 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: I love I love that. I love her character. I 103 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: love cha. I need to spinoff, Like why didn't she 104 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: get to spin? What is her story for Latin? What 105 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: was chaa storyline? Right? We're right, I'm curious, alright, any who? 106 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: Next one? Anyho? So yeah, those are some of our 107 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: favorite words. That was a great question. Or we could 108 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: just go on and on and so many and let's 109 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: supply of bad words to be a woman? Great, It's 110 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: just women things, just women things, just bitch bitch things, 111 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: just cuntry things. That's all all right. Next question, how 112 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: do you know when to let someone go? Um? How 113 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: how do you know when to let someone go when 114 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: you outgrown the relationship but still care. Yeah, I had 115 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: a friendship like this. This is interesting because I just 116 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: got a d M from this person yesterday. So I 117 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: had a friend that I was really good friends within 118 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: college and then um, it just sort of like fizzled 119 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: out and we just sort of stopped hanging out. And 120 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: this was an experience where I was doing all of 121 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: the reaching out and if I didn't reach out. Then 122 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: I never heard from her. And then I kind of 123 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: was like, well, let me just see what happens if 124 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: I never reach out to her like ever hear from 125 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: her again. And I didn't. I never heard ever again. 126 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: And so that was kind of just kind of like realizing, like, 127 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: those are the terms of the friendship. Like the friendship 128 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: exists if I'm you know, reaching out and organizing and 129 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: coordinating hangouts, and it doesn't exist if I don't. But 130 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: then she like reached out to me like yesterday because 131 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: she saw the Forbes article. Literally that's literally, well she 132 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: was congratulating me, but it was the Forbes article, said 133 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 1: oh my god. But you know, but I'm like, I'm cool, 134 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: Like I'm not upset or her. I just it's just 135 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: objectively this this is the terms of the relationship, quite simply, 136 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: without reading too much into it and making it about 137 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: like me as a person. So well, I mean I 138 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: hung onto a relationship that I outgrew and ended up 139 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: hurting the person because I wouldn't end it, and they 140 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: also wouldn't let me go even though they knew it 141 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: was over. You know, it was just this very messy situation. 142 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: So we ended up hurting each other a lot more. Um, 143 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: if we had just let each other go, you know, 144 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: a lot of pain would have been saved. Okay, So mama, 145 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: what is your favorite ritual of the day. My favorite 146 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: ritual of the day is going to sleep when the 147 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: day is over and I'm in my bed and I'm 148 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: no longer interacting with the outside world. Yes, that's my ritual. Agree, 149 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: My favorite ritual is face masking at the end of 150 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: the day, writing in my journal and going to Sleep's 151 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: best ritual, nothing better, right, sleep? Sleep? Alrighty, thank you 152 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: for those questions. So now we're going to jump into 153 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: an interview that we had with the One and Only 154 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: Anna Tase you what a treat we interviewed her back 155 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: in and we're so excited to finally share this with y'all. Um, 156 00:09:30,920 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: so tune in of it and ship all right, look 157 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: on what is you are in for an unbelievable treat 158 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 1: In this surprise, extra extra special cap of local radio 159 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: BIOSA and I are in Highland Park at an airbnb. 160 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: It is PM and we're sitting with the One and 161 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: Only and a t Ju. We are catching up with her. 162 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: She's here in l a recording an album and biosa. 163 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: Can you please talk to our locomotives about Anna for 164 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: those of them who don't know. Yes, yeah, okay, So 165 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: I'm steel, super super blessed to intr do so wonderful, 166 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: the talented, beautiful Anatio mc has trum follow and America 167 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: Latina Lost Lugaimases, Exponent, Femininas that hip hop in Espanol. Yes, 168 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: the one and only. Hello, thank you someone, thank you. Yeah, 169 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: We're so excited to be chatting with you today. Can 170 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: you let our listeners know what it's been like recording 171 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: here in l A. What brings you here? Talk to 172 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: us like, we're here like for a couple of shows, 173 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: so to use the time in our favor, like we 174 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: decided to stay for a couple of day like basically 175 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: to record, like and pro producing this new album and 176 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: use the time not of our That's basically what we 177 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: are here. Yeah. So you're you're recording your newest creation, 178 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: your newest project, right, and can you talk to us 179 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: about what that process has been like starting this new album. 180 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: It's been five years since your last album, and what 181 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: what can we expect from this new album? Well, we 182 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: are still building these album so it's hard like perhaps 183 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: to say how it is, like because I can give 184 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: you like some sign but I think that during the 185 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: process the albums change a lot also, like because you're 186 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: still searching like some kind of sounds or lyrics or whatever, 187 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: producing details whatever. So I would say not to expect nothing. 188 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: Not expect nothing, because the problem with music is like 189 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: sometimes there is too much expectation and sometimes it's a 190 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: very personal process and those proceress processes, like they're so 191 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: personal that sometimes like projection and expectation not fit in 192 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: what you are doing, like and it's and I'm not 193 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: the same person since five years ago, which is normal. 194 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: So you change all the experience, the touring life, whatever, whatever, whatever. 195 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: So we've been doing this album like uh, like in 196 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: different parts we have. We have been doing producer and 197 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: in Chicago and France now here after in Chile just 198 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: like that, like trying to find times in touring and 199 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 1: trying to check out all the stuff that we appear 200 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: and creativity speaking. Yeah, so creating this brand new project 201 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: while also working and still touring. Yes, yes, I'm not 202 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: in a position to stop everything. So I would love 203 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 1: to stop, but I can basically, So it's during the 204 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: process of working at the same times. But at the 205 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: same time, I think that all my album has been 206 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: like that. Like I would love to stop, but like 207 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: I can't, Like economically I can't. Yeah, we we can 208 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: relate to having some juggle balance multiple projects. We can 209 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: really relate and we can really truly relate. Um. So 210 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: you have a very transnational origin story. Um your sound 211 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: is very transnational, and I would love to hear more 212 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: about how like your experience is living in different parts 213 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: of the world, traveling different parts of the world, how 214 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: all of that has come together and has you know, 215 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: found a place in your music. I think it's a 216 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: goal in so many ways. You learn so many because 217 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: I think every time you move somewhere, you you part 218 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: of your of yourself die in some way and other 219 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: parts lived. Because you come from every country you have 220 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: been traveling now, so every country teaches something. And but 221 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: at the same time it's very hard because um we 222 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: don't without making a postal about it. But I guess, 223 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: come on these traveling is not natural. It's not natural 224 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: to be on an airplane, is not natural to be 225 00:14:54,160 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: on between clothes and time zones. Yes, it's jet lag 226 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: whatever whatever. So in some way like I think it's 227 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: very good for creation. Another way it's not good at all, 228 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: Like because I think creation is a lot about contemplation 229 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: and become an even process. What have been happened to 230 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: you with during all these years, and how you're feeling 231 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: and what you want to write about it and much 232 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: more in this industry and time where everything goes so 233 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: fast and and it's crazy how right now we say, yo, 234 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: your album gets fabulous is old album And for me 235 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: it's not at all, you know, like your own perspective 236 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: of time. It's very different about the industry. So you 237 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: try to fit in that between travel and time. I 238 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: mean that middle of all that emotion. Sometimes yes, yeah, 239 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: what I'm hearing you touch upon is this constant need 240 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: to create something new when you're probably might still be 241 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: processing a project you just finished, right, but there's this 242 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: pressure to like, Okay, what's next. We gotta keep rolling, 243 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: we gotta keep creating, and that the artistn't like that, right, 244 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: we have to let it like breathe and come naturally 245 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: and maybe, like you said, contemplated longer. Yes, but I 246 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: think it's not different. Is very fast, and the industry 247 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: respond to that velocity of the market and the problem 248 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: is like you're not the market, so you'll try. Okay, 249 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: you got to work with it and deal with it. 250 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: But at the end, like roativities, the total opposite is 251 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: is another frequency and other temperature. So sometimes like like 252 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: as so many artists have soffered with it, and sometimes 253 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: I love with it with the flow. So it's the 254 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: point of my moods a lot of time. Yeah, And 255 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: as far as this new project that you've been working on, 256 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: so even like we're hearing this in in the house 257 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: that you're staying in and we walked in and music 258 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: was playing. You have artists and producers and people here 259 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: who you're working with and this is an active like 260 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: studio space right now basically, And I'm wondering, like, when 261 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: you're creating, what are the conditions for you that make 262 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: it possible to bring out your most creative self. I 263 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: don't think there is an appropriate envinroment for creation because 264 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: sometimes you're creative in a very weird moment. And sometimes 265 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: we get when you get all the equipment and everything 266 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: is supposed to be creative, you're not creative at all. 267 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: Like is you work with emotional emotionally are not static? 268 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: They move all the time. So sometimes is super creative 269 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: and sometimes I'm super stuck. That's what happened like for 270 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: me at least, right right, how would you say that 271 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: this process and working on this new album and from 272 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: our understanding, right this is this interview is your first 273 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: like United States interview about the new album, which thank 274 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: you so much for sitting down with us to talk 275 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: about it. We're really honored. Um, what is your process 276 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: creating this new album? Has it been different than previous albums? 277 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: Is it? Is it pretty consistent? Your process is very different, 278 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: very different album. I was pregnant the last album I 279 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: was like with trying to I was with my my baby, 280 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: like on the in my stomach, so it was very different. 281 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: Like right now, it's a different moment. And like I 282 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: say before, like I'm not the same person, like experience 283 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: make makes change of you like and I never make 284 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: an album very similar to one to each other. Always move, 285 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: which for me it is great. For the people, is 286 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: that suck because they want a repetition sometimes of what 287 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: you've done and repeat a heat or whatever whatever whatever. 288 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: So I always say this, sometimes it's very painful because 289 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: you're trying to know what you want to say how 290 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: you want to say it, with what the best instrumentation 291 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: it will be. And sometimes it's amazing and sometimes it's 292 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: like really painful, Like it's like and with all these 293 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: information around you, like sometimes you're very lost. And that's 294 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: happened to me. I lost a lot that I'm lost, 295 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: like in the middle of between creation and markets and 296 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: where going what I should present this? And then I said, 297 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: I don't give a ship, Like I'm doing whatever I want. 298 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: So it's depen a lot of your mood. How you 299 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: wake up, and that's who've been working this album. Also, 300 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: like being honest with the process. I guess, yeah, how 301 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: was being pregnant or creating an album? That's amazing to me. 302 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: I had no idea, um, being pregnant while creating an album. 303 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: What was like, what did that do for your music? 304 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: It was very I was very with a lot of 305 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: hope and I think to give birth and have a baby. Also, 306 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: like you got all these hormonal and corporal corporal movement 307 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: in your body. So that's made Bengo very special in 308 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: some way. It was full of a milion that album, 309 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: Like um so I think it's a little revolution like 310 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: in so many ways. And but my mood was very different. 311 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: That was very like come on in life. So this 312 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: album was full of life in some way, you know. 313 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: And I wanted to then go something very specific. I 314 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: wanted to use a lot of Latin American music, have 315 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: some kind of instrumentation and and some kind of of 316 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: sounds and right now is different, which is normal, and 317 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: and thank the universe that is different, like because if not, 318 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: I will be like a f Myceltica, you know. And 319 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: so yes, it's very different, but it's amazing. It was amazing, 320 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: very like I was super tired, but it was crazy amazing. Yeah, 321 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: I've seen photos of you um performing and like also 322 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: like holding your baby like swallowed like after you know, 323 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: she I'm assuming your baby when on tour with you 324 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: your child? Yes, yes, so what is that? What has happened? 325 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: Like like touring also mothering, how has as any as 326 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: any worker mother, Like it's not very very different, just 327 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: that the difference you are more exposed. But I guess 328 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: that any like professional woman got to make like crazy 329 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: movement like a tetrics to be a mother and probably 330 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: be a independence in your world because it's your life. Also, 331 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: so I would say, like as any mother's athetics. That's 332 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: the best way I can explain. Yes, that's amazing. Yeah, 333 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: I really appreciated you, know your comment about traveling. I 334 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: think there's this assumption that traveling a lot for work 335 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: is very glamorous, and maybe it can be, but how 336 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: does that affect your your health and your wellness and 337 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: the way that you function? So much? Traveling is not natural, 338 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: That's what I was saying before, Like it's not natural 339 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: to be an airplane, is not natural to be with ours, 340 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: difference between hemisphere and countries, it's not natural. So in 341 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: this unnaturality, you get to fit your naturality, which is 342 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: a little big a quote. And sometimes, yes, my niece 343 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: her so much and I say I'm done with this. 344 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: I can't deal with this anymore. Like and sometimes I 345 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: did it and I just go like it with discipline, 346 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: and that's depend It's depends how I wake up that morning. 347 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: What are what are some things that you do to 348 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: take care of yourself while you're traveling? Right now, I 349 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: just came back to make yoga because my boyfriend leave 350 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: me classes. That was how I'm super I'm super out 351 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: of form, but I know that when I do work 352 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: out and feeling much better with yourself like behind like 353 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: you've been traveling or not like and it's sometimes just 354 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: sometimes I'm very obsessive. So it's like, yes, right now 355 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: I'm disciplined and I will do what I will do, 356 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: work right, and I will right. And then I'm like, oh, 357 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm done with this. I can't deal with And it's 358 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: it's depend like it's depends a lot of what happened 359 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: in your life and whatever and whatever even just how 360 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: the day went. But now I'm trying to be disciplined 361 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: once again. Like I've got to say, my boyfriends been 362 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: helping a lot, like you got said you got to 363 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: come back. Yes, I've got to come back. And that's 364 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: helped a lot about myself and I'll feel confident about 365 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: myself just to take up to make sports and to 366 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: take out my head a little bit. I think too 367 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: much and I've got to be what I think is 368 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: not bright at all. It is a lot of stupidities. 369 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: The only one person is interesting, like is like bullshit 370 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: like So it's helped me a lot, like to trying 371 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: to put my energy in another place and we forget that, 372 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: we all forget we got a body like becond aesthetic 373 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about your body, like just breathe here 374 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: now right, I'm here, so I'm trying to come back, 375 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: like come on, terminator. Yeah, being mindful of your body, 376 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: and I think, like even saying hydrated, it can be 377 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: really hard, like dreating enough water, eating um, even like 378 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: you know, having a good posture, like not having like 379 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: tech like your shoulders tench ja jaw's clanch, you know 380 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: what I mean. Like our bodies get really tense and 381 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: we forget that we like, you know, we gotta like 382 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: sit back, relaxed, and we are full of ex ien 383 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: city and we are full of disease without It's not 384 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: sometimes disease that doctor can see. It's just emotional. Sometimes 385 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: a lot of emotional stuff all of us. Like the 386 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: person of the day I've been here, like every class 387 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: yoga classes, after I'm crying, I'm like what happened to me? 388 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: And at the end, you're like bodies a center of 389 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: an emotional place and it's a temple of translate how 390 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: you are. But our bodies carry a lot of trauma, 391 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: some in trauma. Like it's even like we may not 392 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: be thinking about it, but our bodies remember because everything 393 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: has been done to not think about and do not 394 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: see it like everything is done to continue to work 395 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: and continue to be prob active and forget about that 396 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: about yourself. I mean that pattern right now once, I'm 397 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: trying to come back and say, and I'll get leave 398 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: your head a little bit and put yourself in the 399 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: body and be here at present, just with yourself. There 400 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: are so many layers, the physical health and mental health, 401 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: even the social health, like maintaining healthy French friendships and 402 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: relationships and families and how does you know? How does 403 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: how does that work? Like with your schedule and with 404 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: your traveling and with your work, keeping your your personal 405 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: connections alive, Because I think friendship doesn't real friendship is 406 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: a love relationship, is a political love relationship. So all 407 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: my friends, like very close friends, there are not so 408 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: many like my very very close friends. We don't need 409 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: to see each day to which O got to know 410 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: that we are there. And sometimes we can have issues, 411 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: which is normal. I've got issues with my kids when 412 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: my family, with my men, like it's normal, but you 413 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: can count on them and they can't count on me, 414 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: Like come on, and all of us were so full 415 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: of issues and problems. So I don't think it is 416 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: a topic at all, like about traveling my work at all, 417 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: because I don't feel that my friend my friend, I 418 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: think that I really loved me if I'm seeing on 419 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: stage or not seeing on stage, like it's behind that 420 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: is much bigger than that. It's bigger and music is 421 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: bigger and it's a real love relationship. Yeah. Well, on 422 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: the topic of love, since you brought up your boyfriend, 423 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: you brought up your man. So how does love figure 424 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: into your creation and your creativity because I think I 425 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: mean a relationship. I think it's one of the hardest 426 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: relations that you can have with someone. Is so hard 427 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: to fit because coming back to the other conversation, we 428 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: everything has been done to be alone, like and work alone, 429 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: be super independent and and be big whatever you do. 430 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: You can be a doctor or whatever. Like sour relationships 431 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: needs a lot of commitment and a lot of hated 432 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: that work, but sacrifice in some way, I mean a 433 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: lot of work, you know, and and sometimes we don't 434 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: want that because you're more happy like alone because it's 435 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: me myself and I meet myself and I So it's 436 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: also I think the first political relationship that you that 437 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: is behind your kids or your parents because it's someone 438 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: that does not come from your blood. And it's only 439 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: about concession concession, concession concession, and chan, Okay, I've been stupid. Breathe, 440 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: You've been stupid. I breathe, like we're still bid breath 441 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: my club. That's right now, please like makeup sex? Yeah, yeah, yes, 442 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: like come on. I think it's is about is about 443 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: all that like trying to It's not because in my case, 444 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: I don't want a boyfriend that come on, because I've 445 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: seen that with friends of mine that want a boyfriend 446 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: that doesn't like even doesn't is like, just support you 447 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: and that's it. That's it in my case. No, I 448 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 1: really like I think it's one of the best places 449 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: to grow up. Yes, and it's one of the it's hard, 450 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: but it's you grow up so much and all the time, 451 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: like all my friends will take your hand like and 452 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: then you say, but okay, i'm learning something, Like I'm 453 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: learning and you've got to be prepared to be to 454 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: learn something. And I guess it's about maturity and see 455 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: how ourselves you can be, how ecocentric you are, how 456 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: you used to to say me, me, me, me, me, me, 457 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: me me me and then say okay, us just to 458 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: change your eye to us. And that's and that's his 459 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: a and that's of course affect the music because come on, 460 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: that's make you in a pattern of in a in 461 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: a conscious consciousness way, and in consciousness also like love 462 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: touch places that perhaps I will understand in three years. 463 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: And I think I'm very slow with my process, Like 464 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: of course that's got to um uh change my point 465 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: of view of creativity, like I've been like doing naturally 466 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: love songs and why not, like I mean love, Like 467 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: what is the problem with that? What is the typo 468 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: about it? And so I think of course that that 469 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: changed your point of view how you create, how you 470 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: talk or how you create or you sing or whatever 471 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: whatever whatever. That was going to be my follow up question, 472 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: like do you feel like this relationship there and is 473 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: coming into the album? It's like direct or indirect ways 474 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: they're like subtle or very obvious. I think in both 475 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: ways are very obvious and very you're not obvious. I 476 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: don't think that you can explain with consciousness and unconscious. 477 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: It's just it's just there, like there. An album is 478 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: is the result of every conversation that you had with 479 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: all your friends. Is the result with all the troubles 480 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: that you had and of course with your relationship. An 481 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: album is not that you comes out from you and 482 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: and that's it, right, and like there's no contact with anyone. 483 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: That's the result of everything that you see and makes 484 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: you know that makes you boom or say, oh yes, 485 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: I never thought about it, like and in some way 486 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: even like sometimes the metaphor are not so good to 487 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: explain it, like you know, but of course, like an 488 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: album is a result of all the people that have 489 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: been like around me all these year for bad, which 490 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: is normal. I mean, like I'm sure that all people 491 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: that make like all these albums suffering love is because 492 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: they have been suffering is normal. You are the result 493 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 1: of all of it. Yeah, I mean I think, um 494 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: very like a political conscious understanding of love has very 495 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: much been in all of your albums in one way 496 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: or the other, like your love for people and for 497 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: women and for like you know and anti right that 498 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: you have like that out that song, and so just 499 00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: your love for I think social consciousness and movement has 500 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: definitely played a role throughout all of your albums. So 501 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: now I just see it in also like a more 502 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: obvious romantic way. I think it's also something nice and 503 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: something different that we're saying yes because core, I think 504 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: it's interesting to touch that topic, to touch that topic 505 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: at the same times, like, because it's something that is 506 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: part of life and it's a more is it's something 507 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: that push you also, like even if you don't want 508 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: to fall in love and you know that's normal, that's 509 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: part of life. And you know that once you fall 510 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: in love, like you will suffer all So that's part 511 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: of life also, so what I do, like I will 512 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: not fall in love to not suffer like that's part 513 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: of it. So should I take the old package or 514 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: don't take nothing? So that's been natural Also about to 515 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: talk about that in some in some way like totally yes, yes, 516 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: stress love is stressful, Yes, but perhaps we got to change, 517 00:31:52,240 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: Like it's about growing up. We learn it together, well, 518 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: the learning and the unlearning. Right, So I think you 519 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: do a lot of that in your relationships, your romantic ones, 520 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: especially where you're learning with someone, but you're also on 521 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: learning all these other maybe bad habits that you've learned 522 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: with a former partner or even just by from your parents. Right, 523 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: You're on learning all these patterns and then you maybe 524 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: hopefully replacing them for better ones. Yes, And sometimes you 525 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: fall in love with people that you never thought that 526 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: it was falling in love at this age, perhaps five 527 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: days before you will never see that guy before. But 528 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: now you're in a position that, well, you get a 529 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: connection and you want some stuff that you don't want 530 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: it before, and before you wanted all the stuff like 531 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: come on, I've got a lot of friends. Was talking 532 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: about them with a friend, like and like friends of 533 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: like sometimes for in love with activists and then you've 534 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: got this vision about right and then these guys, the activists, 535 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: the activists active there's another word in Spanish. In Spanish, no, 536 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: well no machi stas right, yes, And it's about projection, 537 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: like so there is not I don't think that there 538 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: is no formula. There is no just like that it's 539 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: depend on what you want to live and how you 540 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: wanted to live. And I'm learning so badly about myself 541 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: and I will not lie. Is hard, but it's beautifully hard, 542 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: like and I want to live it. Like and your name, 543 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: like you're a big name, like you're known internationally, like 544 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: and I teach you. So how has that like name recognition, 545 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: has that affected like your ability today or finding people 546 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: or meeting people like what is the word is fame? 547 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: What is the fame? How does that from that are 548 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: very famous? And I'm always compared, so I don't feel 549 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: that fame so big to be honest, like, uh, how 550 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: it does affect let me think, like uh sometimes projection 551 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: like the same that were saying about making an album 552 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: like um like even because in general, like I've got 553 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: to be like I've got all the lyrics very hard 554 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: or whatever, but at the end, I'm super vulner ely 555 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: all the time. So I'm very fragile. I've got to 556 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: say it and not be ashamed about you be that's me, Like, 557 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: that's honesty and don't one of the stuff that I 558 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: can't take about honesty. So yes, sometimes men come like 559 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: think you're the rough girl. It's like so in that 560 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: sense perhaps and the other I will say, yes, perhaps 561 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: I work a lot with men. And it's funny how 562 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: like female fans approach to male than male find that 563 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: the males are much more like they don't come directly. 564 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: It's not so directs. Take your time, like question, do 565 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: you date musicians? I'll date with a musician right now. Okay, 566 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: we have a strict like we don't date listeners and 567 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: they try it. Wow, they try it, you know what. 568 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: I would say the same, but look at me. There 569 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: is no formula there, like you understand totally about that fear, 570 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: but assol everywhere, and there is not a profession of 571 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: free of stupidities. You can find stupid doctors, stupid activist, 572 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: stupid an amazing doctor, amazing whatever. There is amazing of everything. 573 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 1: I used to say the same. No musicians, no, no artists, 574 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: no artists artist. I think that is a is a prejudice. 575 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: There's some equation. I don't think it's true at all 576 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: at all. I'm off DJs for a very long time, 577 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: no DJs and no rappers for the first seeable future. 578 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: But sometimes you have to detox, you know, I mean 579 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: perhaps because you had bad experience. Yeah, we both we did, Okay, 580 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: I didn't. I understand like bad experiences with with life 581 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: like right, come on, it's not it's not a professional personally, 582 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: like you said, we learned something right, you know, hopefully. 583 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: And then sometimes you are like in a frequency that 584 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: you attract dark shot also oh yes, and sometimes like 585 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: you are stronger, so you see all this guy forgetting right, 586 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: you get more, you're more open to see what you 587 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: couldn't see like five years ago. Yes, yes, I don't 588 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: really agree that. Sometimes the frequency is definitely that it sounds, 589 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: but it's true, like you attract, you know, unknowingly you're thinking, 590 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 1: you're like I'm the best and I'm good and I'm healed. 591 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 1: You're not you, You're not healed. Do you think you're strong? 592 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: And then yeah, and then more week than ever? Right, yes, 593 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: but the emotion, like we're talking about, emotion is emotion, 594 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: and emotion is not static. Emotion moves. Oh you go 595 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: with that movement and you get to prepare for that movement. Yeah, 596 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 1: but we're not we don't work with numbers, right right, 597 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: So movement and change. Do your fans, your listeners, um, 598 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 1: do your audi as ever expect you to like stick 599 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: to one sound or stick to one concept or message. 600 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: And yes, that's happened to me with all my albums, 601 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: like when I begin to make hip problem and they 602 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: want to extrectly help up and I said, no, I 603 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: always do something else and oh no, that that's happened 604 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: to me all the time. But as I think it's 605 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: a very good sign like UM for me at least, 606 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: like a more we're not here to make music to 607 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: be pleasant. We are here to be honest. And some 608 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: albums will be understood, some other notes. Some are going 609 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: to be good, although not and it's not you know, 610 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: there is a whole life to make an album. The 611 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: problem is the pressure that you put you yourself. That 612 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 1: is the worst than amans yourself. It's not the crowd, 613 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: it's not the fun fun always going to talk the 614 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: light and don't light. That's about his noise, the price 615 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: your your own, your noise. For me, at least, it's 616 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: I feel the promise when my own enemies, when I 617 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 1: begin to make a boycott of myself. So that's when 618 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: I begin to talk shot. In my own head, I 619 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: was like, oh damn right. But the inner critic, the 620 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,959 Speaker 1: self stand yes and say, oh I'm not. I'm done 621 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: with this. I can do it like I think. That's 622 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: my biggest battle, more than what thinks the crowd. Because 623 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: at the end, if you believe in an album, whatever happened, 624 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 1: like you will have to defend it for three years, 625 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: like on stage, take two songs and making alive and 626 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: check it and and if you fall, at least you 627 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: will fall with dignity. Or yes, I felt, but I 628 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: love my song. Guess what. There's plenty of albums with 629 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: millions and millions of reproduction, and there is subjective I know, 630 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 1: but they're terrible and sometimes asking to myself literally some people, 631 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: those people really like those musics. Some perhaps yes, they 632 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: really like it. I'm grateful for them, like good. But 633 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure that all the people have been trying to 634 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: fit in something like and that is the problem when 635 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: you get your feet in the in the clothes that 636 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: is not your clothes. And I think more in the 637 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 1: in that in this time where there is like a 638 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: pattern of all female singers like all sexy, all with 639 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:19,439 Speaker 1: all kinds of videos, very similars um, and of course 640 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: sometimes you lost in all that. Myself, I'm lost something wow, 641 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: where I moved here, like I'm super lost. And sometimes 642 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,399 Speaker 1: you're asking to yourself and you doubt of yourself, which 643 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: is normal. Doubt is part of creativity and mistake is 644 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,280 Speaker 1: part also. So I mean I'm really in that pattern 645 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: right now of me doubting mistakes, where should move, where 646 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: I shouldn't move, and I'm not even sure about myself 647 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 1: and you know what does more super honest and I 648 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: will not acting like yes, I'm super sure about what 649 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm doing and this album is going to change is 650 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: the best album, because every time I listen that from colleagues, 651 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: I say, this is bizarre. Every person that is so 652 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: sure about himself like more with creativity sounds to me 653 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: very conversation suspects suspectious because art is not a security 654 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: is every art art, I think in all kinds of 655 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: art shouldn't be a security. Place is playing in insecurity Card, 656 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:27,240 Speaker 1: which I think is amazing, amazingly beautiful. Like every artist 657 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: in my case that I really like has been people 658 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 1: that has been playing card that nobody thought that was 659 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 1: going to play any kind of artist. So I'm in 660 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: that pattern, Like who are some of your favorites? I've 661 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: got so many? Who do you listen to? Who you? 662 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: Who do you? I'm so curious? Who does I like 663 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 1: a lot of the last about mcmiller, I've heard good 664 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,760 Speaker 1: things about it, and that is this album is crazy. 665 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: I realized I love J Cole also a lot crazy 666 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: about called Rahpsody. I'm talking about yeah about hip then 667 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: the club is like a listen classical hip hop of course, 668 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: the Couple of Ways whatever, whatever. I love. I love Internet, 669 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: But do I love a producer name is Kiffer. I 670 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: love Carson Montano, I love I love so many, Um, 671 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: I've got love to so many musicians. And then I 672 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: listen to classical music and I love to move like 673 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: I'm not ecstatic. I would love to talk more about 674 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: hip hop and how you found hip hop or how 675 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: hip hop found you and where did the rapping start 676 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: for you? How did you get into it? Um, how 677 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: we found to each other, because in a very I 678 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: was like, come more the way I begin or I 679 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: listened to it. I mean, if if you remember like 680 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 1: your first introduction to hip hop or when you first 681 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: start like I want to do this. I was, I 682 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 1: don't know, ten years old, perhaps yes, nine or ten. 683 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: I was in France and my mother was a social 684 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: worker and she used to work with all those kids 685 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: robbers in France in Paris, and so I remember got 686 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: to work with her and all those kids was arriving. 687 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: They used to have like fifteen sixteen, so there was 688 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 1: all the round, you know. So I was looking at 689 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: them like like all the people know and they're right 690 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: dancing and rapping. I said, what this is like, I said, 691 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: this is a you huge universe and new planets and 692 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,839 Speaker 1: I felt it was a planet where I really wanted 693 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: to stay. So it was like also going to the 694 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: moon and we're like, wow, the other kind of oxygen, 695 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: the other kind of breathing, all the kind of sick colors, 696 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,959 Speaker 1: all the kind of sea even like building, because every 697 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 1: graffiti artists looked the building herself. How I can make 698 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: vandalis tonight or bombing tonight. So I was like, they're 699 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: really breathing the city in a very different way that 700 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,280 Speaker 1: normal people are living in the city. So I was like, Wow, 701 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: they're really live in another frequency, like or trying to 702 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: allay the time of trying to find step and rubber, 703 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: to find to cut words and john words and metaphor. 704 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, they really speak another language. It 705 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 1: was all that vision about the city and how there 706 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:19,479 Speaker 1: was really core touching the city, and that's what I feel. 707 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, I fell in love, like immediately 708 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: it was first love. Yeah. And so I imagine you 709 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 1: have been listening to a lot of or growing up 710 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,839 Speaker 1: and since then a lot of rapping English, a lot 711 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: of American yes, yes. So how was that transition from 712 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 1: listening to wrap in English, American American rap and then 713 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 1: writing your own wraps in Spanish. I guess at the 714 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: first it was hard because I couldn't find the flow 715 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 1: really in Spanish um, and because I was feeling that 716 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 1: it was so I was like in English from its 717 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: like yeah, it's yeah, yeah, it's like much more long. 718 00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's different kind of modulation. So at 719 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: the first it was like hard to find, like how 720 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 1: I can make this musically beautiful for myself? And then 721 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 1: I was super interested about putting longer sylaps like you know, 722 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:16,240 Speaker 1: like if I wasn't like and then and then help 723 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: me Linda, and then playing with velocity and all that. 724 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: That's when you've begin to study basically about flow. And 725 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 1: you don't have a university a school. It's not that 726 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 1: all we do a class of hip hop, like you 727 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: just learned a bout your own, so you're your own teacher. 728 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: You learn solve for so many people, but also you 729 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: your own teacher self discipline, and so I begin to 730 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: fall in love very slow of of how I could 731 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: mix flow with And you've done music and collaborations that 732 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 1: have like a punk sound or rock and espaniels like 733 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 1: you genre ha, Yes, I mean I love music like always. 734 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: It is I love music, and I listened all kinds 735 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 1: of mus usic and I can appreciate a very good 736 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 1: rock band, and then I can appreciate an amazing classical music. 737 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 1: I love musicum the anti fascist in music, like good 738 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,399 Speaker 1: music is good music, Like come on, I've seen even 739 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: I can appreciate a very good pop concert like it's 740 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: about talent and if you can travel through that artist, 741 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter the style of the music. Perhaps 742 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 1: the only style of music I never heard her very 743 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,720 Speaker 1: much his country. Perhaps I would say that kind of music, 744 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 1: and which is perhaps the only one. But I've been 745 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:42,760 Speaker 1: appreciated all kinds of music. Yeah, come on, music from China. 746 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: And then like we're music, and I said, that is amazing, 747 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: like come on, Yes, I love I love artists like 748 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 1: each one is a good artist, like the really you 749 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 1: really learn something amazing like about that reverse and what 750 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 1: would be I would like to be closed of one 751 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: kind of music. Well, Anna, thank you so much, thank you, 752 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: thank you so much for sitting with us. We really 753 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Where can our listeners, um here your music? 754 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 1: Where can they find you? Where can they support your work? 755 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 1: Social media? Social media? Yes, were on the handles on 756 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: the contradiction person. So yes, modify all those places everywhere, everywhere, everywhere. Ye, 757 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: well this has been this has been amazing. Um, this 758 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: definitely feels like that we've been talking about Yes in 759 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: installment one miss out. Stay tuned for future events. There's 760 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,879 Speaker 1: more where this came from. Yes, we'll talk about it later. Um. 761 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 1: Well again, this has been amazing. Um. We can't wait 762 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 1: to hear your album whenever it's ready. We we like 763 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 1: no pressure, no pressure off, like let us know, thank you, 764 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,439 Speaker 1: let us know we would love to you know, see 765 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 1: you next time you're in l A definitely l thank you. Yes, 766 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: so we will catch you next time. Look amores h 767 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: m hm