Speaker 1: What's that at the bed. It's spooky, Andy, yoky. I'm
Speaker 1: really sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I said, I gas Nandas please hey boo, it's me
Speaker 1: Roz and welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast
Speaker 1: where I talk to people that I like about things
Speaker 1: that make me go ee, this too scary. It's Living
Speaker 1: for the Dead month. It is October. Season one of
Speaker 1: Living for the Dead is about to come out October
Speaker 1: eighteenth on Hulu, all eight episodes dropping. And this whole
Speaker 1: month I get to talk to my lovely cast, and
Speaker 1: today I get to talk to Alex LeMay, who is
Speaker 1: somebody that has a ton of experience ghost hunting and
Speaker 1: really knows technology. Actually, Alex Lamay, a couple months ago,
Speaker 1: I got a cable thing for my TV. I don't
Speaker 1: let's see, this is how I am a cable thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know any of this stuff. And I spent
Speaker 1: hours with this damn thing. I was about to go
Speaker 1: take it back and get a new one because I
Speaker 1: couldn't figure it out. I call Alex Lamay and she's like,
Speaker 1: let's FaceTime. Within three seconds she's like, oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: put that in that thing and that and that thing. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm sure the average person also could have figured it out.
Speaker 1: But to me, that is true wizardry. Okay, that is
Speaker 1: witchcraft at its finest, and I admire it. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk more are today about Alex LeMay and her experiences.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. I don't know these people's experiences. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know a lot of their ghost experiences. So
Speaker 1: I hope that throughout this month we'll talk a lot
Speaker 1: about that. It's funny because, like, I love talking to
Speaker 1: people that work in the paranormal industry, but I've never
Speaker 1: talked to ones that I've like intimately traveled and done
Speaker 1: investigations with, you know. So it's crazy how close we
Speaker 1: are bonded, the five of us on this show. We
Speaker 1: are like, uh, I guess you could say a family,
Speaker 1: like when you're spending that much time and traveling and
Speaker 1: also going through like now we're going to be on
Speaker 1: a TV show together and like that's crazy too, Like
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just it's really wild. But one
Speaker 1: thing that I probably will never stop talking about having
Speaker 1: spent so much time talking to people that do these
Speaker 1: kinds of TV shows now that I've done one. This
Speaker 1: stuff is real, y'all. And I'm skeptical. You know this
Speaker 1: about me. I'm not just gonna believe any little thing
Speaker 1: when you're actually there, Like, yeah, you watch these shows,
Speaker 1: and sure, I've poked fun before about how you watch
Speaker 1: these shows and they're constantly like something just grab my arm,
Speaker 1: something just touch me. And then I'm at home like, Okay,
Speaker 1: great riveting, really exciting to watch. But I mean, it's
Speaker 1: crazy how I've spent so many years watching these and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden I found myself inside of
Speaker 1: one and so much stuff happened, Like these places that
Speaker 1: we go to. We're going to these places because it's
Speaker 1: NonStop paranormal activity. That's the other thing. You watch these
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, I'm so sure. The camera crews
Speaker 1: show up and the ghosts are just they get out
Speaker 1: of their little dressing rooms and they start, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: there's cameras. Let's perform for the cameras. It doesn't work
Speaker 1: that way. We know it doesn't work that way. But
Speaker 1: these places that we went to were so haunted. All
Speaker 1: of them. We had real things happen. And the other
Speaker 1: thing that you don't think about when you watch these shows,
Speaker 1: is like these people aren't just there for those moments
Speaker 1: that are on camera, like we were there for a
Speaker 1: long time. Also, there's certain things that don't make it
Speaker 1: to the final cut of these TV shows that you know,
Speaker 1: for whateverever reason, like maybe the camera didn't actually, you know,
Speaker 1: pick up the thing that happened, or who knows what.
Speaker 1: They were taking a lunch break and you gotta eat.
Speaker 1: That's the other thing these people eat when they do
Speaker 1: these things. I never thought about that when I would
Speaker 1: watch these shows. Oh yeah, we gotta eat. So we'd
Speaker 1: sit there and take a lunch break, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, somebody's like, oh, something just scratched me,
Speaker 1: and you're like, wait, but we're not even filming right now.
Speaker 1: I can tell you a story that happened when I
Speaker 1: was shooting the show. First of all, these damn ghosts.
Speaker 1: So many times when we were shooting, they would do
Speaker 1: the craziest shit for me. Of course, when the cameras
Speaker 1: weren't on, or when the cameras weren't pointing at me.
Speaker 1: This is what I get for, you know, making fun
Speaker 1: of these shows. There was like a moment one that
Speaker 1: just pops up in my brain right now. We were
Speaker 1: at the Copper Queen Hotel in Bisbee, Arizona. Bisbee one
Speaker 1: of the best towns I've ever been. Gorgeous, but this
Speaker 1: Copper Queen Hotel absolutely terrifying. In my opinion's scariest place
Speaker 1: we went the whole time. Anyway, there was a moment
Speaker 1: no cameras on. We stayed in this hotel, just us,
Speaker 1: by the way, just our cast and crew for you know.
Speaker 1: However many days it was that we shot, and you know,
Speaker 1: everyone's winding down the night. You know, people are going
Speaker 1: to their rooms, and you know, we had some designated
Speaker 1: rooms where we would keep like our cameras, you know,
Speaker 1: that we would use, or like our different devices or
Speaker 1: equipment whatever. And I'm like looking down one of the
Speaker 1: always that was like a populated hallway where we had
Speaker 1: a lot of our stuff set up, or like a
Speaker 1: little room with snacks in it, you know, and I
Speaker 1: see that, like the lights are on in one of
Speaker 1: those rooms, and there's like somebody walking around. I can
Speaker 1: see their shadow projected on the ground, and so I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I wonder who that is. I go over there. There's
Speaker 1: nobody in there. I said, bitch, we're not shooting right now.
Speaker 1: Can you come back when the cameras are out? Whoever
Speaker 1: is in here, can you come back, like literally, we're
Speaker 1: gonna start shooting, or you know, just come a little
Speaker 1: over this way. There's a I know there's a camera
Speaker 1: set up over it. Can you come follow me? But
Speaker 1: like that's what I'm saying, Like it's all real. That's
Speaker 1: all I want to say. So much of my just
Speaker 1: beliefs have changed since I started this journey of doing
Speaker 1: the show. I was around so much of this stuff,
Speaker 1: and I saw things with my own eyes that it
Speaker 1: only ever heard people tell me stories on this podcast
Speaker 1: about I'll get into the stuff. You know, listen, if
Speaker 1: you like this show, you're stuck with me, be telling
Speaker 1: these stories for years. I'm sure so I'll save it.
Speaker 1: But right now I want to talk to the amazing also,
Speaker 1: not trying to objectify or anything but gorgeous, just like Juju.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, these two Juju Alex stunning, tens, flawless.
Speaker 1: Here's Alex leamay and with a shower. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I am squealing like a little piggy, like a like Arizona. Haavealina,
Speaker 1: because I am joined by Alex Lea May Hello, Hi,
Speaker 1: Hi Alex. Now, first, first off, please don't tell the
Speaker 1: others I said this, but you are my favorite of
Speaker 1: the five.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say the same thing. Let's just keep
Speaker 2: that between us.
Speaker 1: So okay, So this is gonna be funny because you
Speaker 1: and I do talk on the phone, probably two and
Speaker 1: a half hours a day on a busy day when
Speaker 1: we don't have much time, so we do talk a lot. However,
Speaker 1: I have been very good about this. As tempting as
Speaker 1: it is, I do not let any of you bitches
Speaker 1: tell me your ghost stories because I always say I'm
Speaker 1: saving it for the pod. One of these days you're
Speaker 1: going to come on the podcast. And I've heard little
Speaker 1: blips from you here and there, but this is the
Speaker 1: moment where I'm really gonna dive in with you and
Speaker 1: hear your stories.
Speaker 2: That sounds great, and that's true because you've cut me
Speaker 2: off before when I started talking about stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get real aggressive. Shut up.
Speaker 2: I've tried to calculate how many hours you and I
Speaker 2: have spent on the phone. I don't know if that's
Speaker 2: a feature, but I am curious over the last year,
Speaker 2: how many hours you and I have clocked talking on
Speaker 2: the phone.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Well, and you and I have seen
Speaker 1: each other since we wrapped. We went to a couple
Speaker 1: of ghosty little places in Arizona. We went to Jerome,
Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite little towns. It's where
Speaker 1: I famously captured the EVP that says I pooped here.
Speaker 3: That was so fun.
Speaker 1: We also went to sit Down that which is another
Speaker 1: place where I've seen UFOs possibly, though I don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll see who knows. Okay, let's just get into it.
Speaker 1: Who are you, where are you from? What got you
Speaker 1: into the paranormal?
Speaker 2: It's a lot of questions. My name is Alexandre LeMay.
Speaker 2: I'm a paranormal investigator with an inclination towards tech, really
Speaker 2: into electronics, and I've been investigating since I could remember.
Speaker 2: I think because I've come from a family of people
Speaker 2: that believe in ghosts, and I have a couple mediums
Speaker 2: in the family. You do, yeah, yeah, so it's not
Speaker 2: frowned upon if you're like, I saw a ghost, which
Speaker 2: is actually pretty common for kids. I feel like they
Speaker 2: see them all the time.
Speaker 1: Did you see ghosts as a kid?
Speaker 2: I did, Yeah, I called them imaginary friends. But at
Speaker 2: some point my grandma sat me down and was like,
Speaker 2: I don't think these are imaginary friends. I think you're
Speaker 2: seeing ghosts. And if they ever bother you just tell
Speaker 2: them to go away and they'll listen. So that was
Speaker 2: really my first taste of investigating and learning how to
Speaker 2: set boundaries with these spirits that came to visit me.
Speaker 3: All the time.
Speaker 1: Was your grandma a medium.
Speaker 2: She could see people that had passed on, But it
Speaker 2: was really my dad. My dad had a lot of
Speaker 2: stories seeing family members that have been deceased or just
Speaker 2: dead people walking around. Really, yeah, I love it. My
Speaker 2: life's been spooky for a while.
Speaker 1: You're a little bit sensitive, right.
Speaker 2: I am, so are you? No?
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: I am not sensitive.
Speaker 3: You say that, but I swear you are.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I am a hardened show pony. I am not sensitive
Speaker 1: in any way. I am just like, what you see
Speaker 1: is what you get. I used to think that I
Speaker 1: was sensitive, but as I've gotten more skeptical as time
Speaker 1: goes on, I'm like, yeah, of course, I thought every
Speaker 1: single two hundred year old building was haunted. It just
Speaker 1: feels haunted, but.
Speaker 2: Like because of how it looks or because of how
Speaker 2: it makes you feel though, well, you look.
Speaker 1: At it and it makes you feel a certain way.
Speaker 1: You go in those places and you're like, ooh, this
Speaker 1: is a lot of I have a feeling a lot
Speaker 1: of people have been here. I have a feeling somebody
Speaker 1: probably died here in the past two hundred years.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well for sure. But some places you can
Speaker 2: really feel it. I think that you're more in tune
Speaker 2: than you let on.
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. You are so god, I
Speaker 1: don't even know. It's so funny because talking to all
Speaker 1: of you people Ball from this TV show, it's like
Speaker 1: hard and easy to try to like interview you because
Speaker 1: I feel like I know you guys very well. But
Speaker 1: also I don't know, it's like we're we're definitely peers.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, when I think of the
Speaker 1: skills that you all have, I'm like, they're all so cool,
Speaker 1: Like I want to hear everything. How did you learn
Speaker 1: all that stuff? Because you're really good at the technical stuff,
Speaker 1: the machinery, the toys. I don't do that. It's also
Speaker 1: because I've always been so broke that I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to go hunt with whatever's cheapest
Speaker 1: and I can barely even work a damn iPhone. So
Speaker 1: tell me about what attracts you to that side of
Speaker 1: paranormal investigation.
Speaker 2: You know, I've thought about this in the past. I
Speaker 2: think they were separate things for me for a minute,
Speaker 2: because I too was broke, so it was mainly just
Speaker 2: using candle and whatever cheap thing I could find to
Speaker 2: investigate with, like ogi, birt Ouji.
Speaker 3: Birds birds.
Speaker 2: Oeji boards were cheap. They were like twelve bucks back
Speaker 2: in the day. But I used to fix iPhones. If
Speaker 2: my computer broke, I would take it apart and fix it.
Speaker 2: I've always been interested in puzzles, and I think electronics
Speaker 2: are just giant puzzles and they're very fun. So at
Speaker 2: some point it melded. I consider myself a failed medium
Speaker 2: where I'm just too logical to let myself believe in
Speaker 2: the visuals and what I'm being told, like to really
Speaker 2: tap in. I think I'm just my body doesn't let
Speaker 2: me because I'm too I don't know, analytical maybe, and
Speaker 2: so the electronics side allows me to capture it, and
Speaker 2: that to me is more scientific, and my little brain
Speaker 2: is like, Okay, this makes sense. This is a ghost,
Speaker 2: this is unusual, this is paranormals has high strangeness into it,
Speaker 2: so it kind of melded it at some point, probably
Speaker 2: in high school.
Speaker 1: But that's why like me being skeptical, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: can't trust my gut and I can't trust technology because
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's probably malfunctioning. It's probably like I don't
Speaker 1: trust any of that stuff. I don't trust robots. I
Speaker 1: don't trust any.
Speaker 3: Of that and you shouldn't.
Speaker 2: I mean, there are so many different anomalies that happen
Speaker 2: because of a glitch or something like that. But the
Speaker 2: more into technology you get, the more you understand the
Speaker 2: devices that you're using, you typically can tell what has
Speaker 2: come from either a glitch or not. Like the old SLS,
Speaker 2: they used a connect like you know the connect from
Speaker 2: the Xbox that would map in figures.
Speaker 1: Yeah, explain to all of the listeners what a SLS is.
Speaker 2: So it's a scattered light sensor. It's like a bunch
Speaker 2: of little infrared dots or like lasers basically that we
Speaker 2: can't see, get scattered around the room and they collect
Speaker 2: data as far as depth goes and what it is
Speaker 2: that it's seeing in a three D view. And then
Speaker 2: there's a repository like a list of things that it
Speaker 2: knows to look for. So if it sees a chair,
Speaker 2: it says it's a chair. If it sees a human,
Speaker 2: it says it's a human. And there's a little bit
Speaker 2: of flaw in that because it's such old technology that
Speaker 2: sometimes it'll see a chair and think it's a human.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of new technology, like the iPad
Speaker 2: app that we used on the show, that has a
Speaker 2: much better record of what it is that it's seeing,
Speaker 2: so it's a lot more accurate. And that's what I
Speaker 2: mean by like getting to know the technology, because then
Speaker 2: you can feel more confident in what it is that
Speaker 2: it's mapping in if it's actually like a humanoid figure,
Speaker 2: or if it's just a chair.
Speaker 1: And it'll appear as like a stick figure walking around,
Speaker 1: and then it'll lead you to believe, oh, there's a
Speaker 1: ghost standing right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it'll map in a humanoid figure. It knows
Speaker 2: which size it is, where the shoulders are, where the
Speaker 2: arms are in the hands. Another way you can debunk
Speaker 2: it is by asking the figure to raise its hand,
Speaker 2: raise its left hand, move over a certain direction, and
Speaker 2: that's a good way to figure out if it really
Speaker 2: is something paranormal or not? I love all that stuff
Speaker 2: that I could talk about it forever.
Speaker 1: I feel like my stubborn ass. If I was a
Speaker 1: ghost and someone's like, raise your hand, I'd be like,
Speaker 1: you don't pay my bills, don't tell me what to do?
Speaker 1: Come on, say? Are you happy to be here? What's
Speaker 1: your name? Bitch? I don't know you? Why would I
Speaker 1: tell you anything? Can you dance for us? Are you
Speaker 1: gonna pay me? Pay me? What was your favorite toy
Speaker 1: that you played with while shooting this TV show Living
Speaker 1: for the Dad, coming out October eighteenth on Hulu.
Speaker 3: That's a really good question.
Speaker 1: Let me think, because you also made some toys I did.
Speaker 3: I did the shoes.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say toys.
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I don't want to like undermine
Speaker 1: the technological advances that have happened in the paranormal investigation world.
Speaker 1: To me, they're like fun. They're like fun toys.
Speaker 3: True, they're like adult toys.
Speaker 1: But they're like I know that there's like science to it,
Speaker 1: and people really dedicate their lives developing these things.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 1: Tell me about some of the ones that you worked
Speaker 1: with and worked on.
Speaker 2: I brought a pair of shoes, a pair of dancers
Speaker 2: shoes for the Palomino episode.
Speaker 1: Oooh, the Palomino, which is a legendary exotic dance venue
Speaker 1: where the ladies are sickening. Okay, mm hmm, the things
Speaker 1: that they were doing on those poles. So you brought
Speaker 1: a heel.
Speaker 2: I did. I brought a pair of dancers heels, those
Speaker 2: really tall ones, and I cut a hole in them
Speaker 2: and I put in some electronics so it's similar to
Speaker 2: the K two meter. It illuminates whenever there's a spike
Speaker 2: in electromagnetic field energy, and they say that ghosts can
Speaker 2: manipulate that. I'm not one hundred percent sure if that
Speaker 2: made the cut, but they were fun to make. When
Speaker 2: we started filming at the beginning, I made everybody a
Speaker 2: little EMF meter that had your name customized on it
Speaker 2: as a gift. As far as custom gets goes. Their
Speaker 2: budget was great, so we had all the professional items
Speaker 2: we needed.
Speaker 3: I didn't need to make anything more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I want to hear some paranormal stories from you.
Speaker 1: I know you have a billion of them.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: When you are at a cocktail soiree and the topic
Speaker 1: of ghosts comes up, what's your story.
Speaker 2: I love telling people about my haunted apartment.
Speaker 1: The current one.
Speaker 3: Yes, living here.
Speaker 2: Is so much fun. It always keeps me on my toes.
Speaker 2: From what I've gathered, there is an older woman and
Speaker 2: a younger gentleman that just walk around and haunt my
Speaker 2: kitchen mainly.
Speaker 3: Of all places.
Speaker 2: When I first signed the lease, I was standing in
Speaker 2: the kitchen and there was no mention of this to me.
Speaker 2: By the way, in Arizona thing, I don't have to
Speaker 2: tell you if someone's died in the apartment or anything.
Speaker 2: But my neighbor that lives in the guest house in
Speaker 2: the back had came by and told me about the place,
Speaker 2: so it was a connection that we knew. And she
Speaker 2: came in right as I was signing the lease, and
Speaker 2: she told the landlord, Oh, she's a witch. It's fine,
Speaker 2: you can tell her the truth. As I was signing, right.
Speaker 2: So they're giving me the rundown about how they had
Speaker 2: to hire a shaman, that no one has ever stayed
Speaker 2: a full lease here. Oh geez, they've all left in
Speaker 2: the middle of the night. It's a long list of
Speaker 2: people being unhappy seeing ghosts. The last person before me,
Speaker 2: I guess, moved out in the middle of the night
Speaker 2: and broke her lease three months early, like, took her
Speaker 2: children and just left.
Speaker 1: I've never broken a lease, but like, it's a big deal.
Speaker 1: That's money you got to pay, right, Like, aren't you
Speaker 1: responsible for those months or whatever?
Speaker 2: Yes, I think it was three or six months worth.
Speaker 2: There was still quite a few months left on the
Speaker 2: lease that they had to pay for.
Speaker 1: Well, no, I mean that's for me to spend that
Speaker 1: kind of money, you'd have to be a real ghost
Speaker 1: in my home. You have told me that you have
Speaker 1: a haunt apartment, and when I came to visit you,
Speaker 1: You're like, you can sleep here, and I'm like, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: That's where I draw the line. Yeah, I got myself
Speaker 1: a lovely a lovely hotel where you live.
Speaker 2: I've tried to get you to say so many times.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't even use the bathroom here you were out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, not interested. But I got a lovely hotel
Speaker 1: where there was a weed convention happening in the hotel
Speaker 1: and so there was music playing and people smoking weed everywhere,
Speaker 1: which I'm not super into either, but I like that
Speaker 1: over goes okay, So what kind of stuff happens?
Speaker 2: So I think The best story was when my neighbor
Speaker 2: had gone to work, which I didn't know at the time,
Speaker 2: she was not home and there was this loud party
Speaker 2: going on in her apartment. I had assumed that she
Speaker 2: invited like thirty people over because of.
Speaker 3: How loud it was.
Speaker 2: The music was blasting, people were talking, somebody had banged
Speaker 2: on the wall like they had ran into it.
Speaker 3: I don't know what was going on over there, but
Speaker 3: it was a full on rager.
Speaker 2: And around two am, I was like, I don't think
Speaker 2: I can handle this anymore. I just have to text
Speaker 2: her and tell her, like, please turn down the music.
Speaker 2: Because we live in a duplex, there's only a wall
Speaker 2: that connects us, and technically this is all one house,
Speaker 2: so this entire house is haunted. So when I texted
Speaker 2: her and said, hey, please turned down the music, she
Speaker 2: texted me and said, oh, I've been at work all
Speaker 2: evening and I won't be home until three. And then
Speaker 2: ten minutes later everything turned off and I walked over
Speaker 2: there and I was like waiting for people to leave
Speaker 2: because I thought maybe someone had broken in. I could
Speaker 2: not make sense of it.
Speaker 1: So was the grandma ghost having a rager?
Speaker 3: I can't make any sense of it.
Speaker 2: It still baffles me to this day, because no one
Speaker 2: left the house, no one came, no one went. I
Speaker 2: just like waited, I waited to see, And then when
Speaker 2: she got home, we were like looking around seeing if
Speaker 2: there were traces of someone who had broken in and
Speaker 2: had a party, but there was nothing.
Speaker 1: Wasn't I talking to you on the phone or something?
Speaker 1: Not that long ago? Some weird thing happened in your
Speaker 1: bedroom at night?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I have so many stories it would
Speaker 2: take me a minute to even remember. Oh. I've had
Speaker 2: my TV fall off the wall. I should say thrown
Speaker 2: off the wall, because it was three feet from where
Speaker 2: it was mounted, and it somehow took down three or
Speaker 2: four different paintings that were hung above it, which doesn't
Speaker 2: make any sense to me, because if the TV was
Speaker 2: going to fall, it would take anything down that's below it,
Speaker 2: but instead a couple paintings from.
Speaker 3: Above were ripped off.
Speaker 1: Weird.
Speaker 2: It was only photos of my family, which made it
Speaker 2: very strange.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: When stuff like that happens, though, I just try not
Speaker 2: to think too much about it and put it back
Speaker 2: and just say, hey, that was me. Don't do it again,
Speaker 2: because I don't want to fuel the fire by any means.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like a bully. If they're teasing you.
Speaker 2: You can't really let them have that. You just got
Speaker 2: to ignore them a little bit, set down more boundaries.
Speaker 1: It does that make them want to work harder, though.
Speaker 2: They haven't since then. I also do witchcraft quite often
Speaker 2: in the house. I put up different wards. I do
Speaker 2: a lot of things to communicate to them that they
Speaker 2: have to stay in the kitchen. They can't come in
Speaker 2: my room anymore. We have like designated areas that you
Speaker 2: can haunt and where you can't go. It is basically
Speaker 2: my bedroom. This is my safe room.
Speaker 1: I'm just picturing this little granny tiptoe in like I
Speaker 1: likes to see me, but I really want to go
Speaker 1: in this other room.
Speaker 3: No, I think it's her son.
Speaker 1: Oh it's the sun.
Speaker 2: I think it's the sun. And the reason I know
Speaker 2: that is because a medium friend of mine came over,
Speaker 2: took like two steps in the house and was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I see an old lady and I see this this
Speaker 2: younger male that I think is possibly her son. And
Speaker 2: prior to him saying that, I had already thought that
Speaker 2: was what was going on because I had seen glimpses
Speaker 2: of them walking around, and for him to confirm that
Speaker 2: and then not want to come in the house was
Speaker 2: pretty spooky. I'm not gonna lie, but I also love that.
Speaker 2: I like, really love it. I love that I live
Speaker 2: in a haunted house.
Speaker 1: But like, how do you keep them in one section?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Are they physically not allowed to leave? I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess physically is not the right word, but like, is
Speaker 1: it a conscious thing where they're like, I'm not allowed
Speaker 1: to go over there? Or is it like an electric
Speaker 1: fence where like if they go over there, they get zapped.
Speaker 3: Could you imagine that old lady walking through the threshold
Speaker 3: and just like, hi, dear, I may do some.
Speaker 2: Cleaning the kitchen. Yeah, she has shut cabinets before. She's sweet.
Speaker 2: But her son does some weird stuff around the house.
Speaker 2: It's mainly just for him, because I've never had a
Speaker 2: problem with her.
Speaker 1: Oh, I like her. I'm not sure about him.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure either. I think he's a little bit
Speaker 2: of a creep. I have different things hanging on my
Speaker 2: doorway and the mirrors to make sure that they can't
Speaker 2: be used for portals. You know. I do regular spell
Speaker 2: work here, just to keep the energy right, because I'm
Speaker 2: not trying to get attacked in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2: I really love my sleep. I just could not sacrifice
Speaker 2: my sleep.
Speaker 1: But wait a second, how do you know who is who?
Speaker 1: Because you also collect haunted dolls?
Speaker 3: I do. It's a mess here.
Speaker 1: So how do you know when it's a haunted doll,
Speaker 1: when it's Granny, when it's the sun.
Speaker 2: I was saying earlier that I'm a failed medium. I
Speaker 2: do see them physically and kind of in my mind.
Speaker 2: It's like a little bit of both. When it's the
Speaker 2: guy that's here, I usually can tell it's him, like
Speaker 2: it feels different and his height. He's so much taller
Speaker 2: than the woman. The haunted dolls I regularly hang out
Speaker 2: with and do little investigations just to say hi and
Speaker 2: figure out what their names are, so I have a
Speaker 2: good grasp on who's who when it comes to stuff
Speaker 2: going crazy in the house. Otherwise it would just be chao.
Speaker 2: Because I bring so many weird things into this house
Speaker 2: on a regular basis. I have so many antiques, so
Speaker 2: many haunted dolls. I have this clock that another investigator
Speaker 2: sent me a long time ago. That might be the
Speaker 2: creepiest thing I own because I don't know what's attached
Speaker 2: to that, but it's not very nice. But it also
Speaker 2: doesn't leave the clock. It just kind of like stays
Speaker 2: with it. So I haven't really had to do much
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 1: I love the idea of a bitchy clock.
Speaker 2: It's a real bitchy clock. It's a cuckoo clock, has
Speaker 2: a little bird and everything.
Speaker 1: What makes you think that it's got something not nice
Speaker 1: attached to it?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: No one ever feels right when they're around it. And
Speaker 2: normally I feel like when you tell someone it's haunted,
Speaker 2: they're like, ooh, I'm scared. I don't feel well, like
Speaker 2: they just project that onto it. But this particular clock,
Speaker 2: I don't tell people it's haunted. And when people come over,
Speaker 2: it's in a space where if you were just standing
Speaker 2: next to my doorway in my bedroom, you would get
Speaker 2: a sense of what's going on with the clock because
Speaker 2: you're so close to it. It's like right where your
Speaker 2: head would be. And I've had two people so far
Speaker 2: stand next to it talking to me about something completely
Speaker 2: different and start to get the chills and like feel
Speaker 2: really uncomfortable and be like I felt like somebody was
Speaker 2: right next to me where the clock was, It's what
Speaker 2: they would say. So I've had a lot of incidences
Speaker 2: with people where they would tell me something weird is
Speaker 2: with that clock and they just don't like it without
Speaker 2: provoking them to tell me.
Speaker 1: Tell me about these haunted dolls. Where did you get
Speaker 1: these haunted dolls? Are these eBay fines?
Speaker 3: No, they're thrift findes.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: People send me photos all the time of creepy dolls
Speaker 2: that they find at the thrift store.
Speaker 1: Me too, really, oh, non stop.
Speaker 3: This is why we get along so well.
Speaker 1: I know our dms are probably similar in some ways.
Speaker 2: Totally the creepy dolls, though I don't think most of
Speaker 2: them are haunted. I just kind of call them haunted dolls.
Speaker 2: I think three actually do have attachments. The rest don't.
Speaker 1: They're just and what makes you think that.
Speaker 2: The investigations that I do with them, I'll set a
Speaker 2: rempod next to them and just kind of like hang out,
Speaker 2: ask questions.
Speaker 1: Tell us what a rempod is.
Speaker 2: You know what a rempod is?
Speaker 1: I know, but a lot of the listeners don't know
Speaker 1: this geek shit.
Speaker 2: Okay, So a rempod is this little disc like thing
Speaker 2: with an antenna on the top and the antenna emits
Speaker 2: a little field around it, an electromagnetic field, and when
Speaker 2: you enter that field, it alarms. So it has a
Speaker 2: sensor on it that'll tell you how close you are
Speaker 2: to the antenna, so the sound will get more intense
Speaker 2: the closer you are to the antenna. So if you
Speaker 2: grab onto it, it's very very loud, but if you
Speaker 2: just kind of like creep into the field, it'll be
Speaker 2: a little quiet beep. It's a really cool device because
Speaker 2: then you can really gauge how close somebody is or
Speaker 2: how much energy is being used to illuminate the lights
Speaker 2: and make the sound go off.
Speaker 1: That one I find very convincing. I do too, having
Speaker 1: used it a lot on this of the show. We
Speaker 1: had a lot of times where you know, we test it,
Speaker 1: we touch it, it makes a noise, it lights up,
Speaker 1: so we know that it works, and it only works
Speaker 1: if somebody is touching it. And then if we're like
Speaker 1: to the ghost touch it and then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden like me and like so that was a goat.
Speaker 1: Sorry that wasn't a rim pop. But if it like
Speaker 1: you know, it beeps and starts lighting up and whatever,
Speaker 1: like that's like, how did how did that happen.
Speaker 2: Honestly, that's a really good idea to put some different
Speaker 2: sounds other than beeps in it. Could you imagine one
Speaker 2: that just made goat sounds. I want one that's like, oh,
Speaker 2: don't touch me, there.
Speaker 1: Don't touch just look, don't touch. Okay. So you set
Speaker 1: one of those up next to these haunted dolls, and
Speaker 1: so do you like ask it like are you a human?
Speaker 1: And then like if it lights up, then you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: it's a human. Is that what we're talking?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I don't usually ask that.
Speaker 2: I feel like I don't I want to know if
Speaker 2: they're human or inhuman, right, it's one of those things
Speaker 2: I'm just like, I don't care.
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 2: I just want to know your name and if there's
Speaker 2: anything attached to it. I try not to bond with
Speaker 2: them too much, because I'm not trying to end up
Speaker 2: spending my life with some weird attachment and some weird doll.
Speaker 1: Right, low commitment.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I tend to outfit them with electronics myself, which I
Speaker 2: love doing. I like turning them into rempods themselves. This
Speaker 2: one that was haunted, I took her head off and
Speaker 2: I drilled her eyes out and put LEDs in them.
Speaker 1: So God, you're so creepy.
Speaker 3: You'd like that.
Speaker 1: You're so creepy. I love it.
Speaker 2: And she had an antenna sticking at the top of
Speaker 2: her head and she was absolutely terrifying. I just love her.
Speaker 2: But this is how I confirm that she really was haunted,
Speaker 2: because in that process, so many bad things started happening
Speaker 2: to me. My phone is like shattered in a million pieces.
Speaker 2: I burnt myself really badly trying to put her head
Speaker 2: back on. I had so many crazy things happen with her.
Speaker 2: But she's a functioning red pod now.
Speaker 1: I love.
Speaker 2: I think she said her name was Sybil too, which
Speaker 2: is just perfect Sybil.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so funny. She burned you.
Speaker 3: She was mad.
Speaker 1: You know another thing about you, like when we first met,
Speaker 1: when we were starting this project and stuff. Of the
Speaker 1: five of us, you're the only one of us that
Speaker 1: had done like TV paranormal investigating. Yeah, you have done
Speaker 1: stuff with the Ghost Adventures people. Yes, how did that happen?
Speaker 2: That happened in twenty eighteen where Zach was originally opening
Speaker 2: his Haunted museum and people were submitting videos as to
Speaker 2: why they would be locked into the Haunted museum by
Speaker 2: themselves and when I submitted it, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: That's the thing about you. That's the thing that people
Speaker 1: need to know about who you are, is that you're
Speaker 1: the first one that's like, Ooh, a coffin where dead
Speaker 1: people have been in, I want to do that sounds
Speaker 1: that sounds relaxing to me, Like you on this show
Speaker 1: are the one that's like I want the scariest of
Speaker 1: all scary. That stuff seems to not phase you at all.
Speaker 2: No, there's just something about it. It makes me feel alive.
Speaker 2: I really really love it because it's almost like I
Speaker 2: put myself in these kind of dangerous situations because I
Speaker 2: am half skeptic and half a believer. Most of the time,
Speaker 2: my brain is telling me none of this is real,
Speaker 2: and if something is happening, I absolutely have to prove
Speaker 2: that it's actually happening. So I don't typically get scared
Speaker 2: unless there's some undisputable proof going on, And in that moment,
Speaker 2: my desire is to cap sure it because I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's being Probably like a scientist would if
Speaker 2: something's happening and they're like, oh my god, I have
Speaker 2: to capture this is life changing. So that takes over
Speaker 2: and then I'm not scared anymore. I'm just like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, I have to document this. This is everything
Speaker 2: I've been waiting for. So my fear is really counteracted
Speaker 2: by curiosity. I have so much curiosity.
Speaker 1: So Zach Beggins is like, who wants to sleep in
Speaker 1: my basement in Las Vegas? And you were like me, yep,
Speaker 1: And then he chose you.
Speaker 2: He did, and I got locked into the Haunted Museum
Speaker 2: by myself for quite a few hours. I think it
Speaker 2: was like four hours with a camera strapped to me
Speaker 2: and I couldn't see but like two feet in front.
Speaker 3: Of my face. It was fantastic. I was living my
Speaker 3: best life.
Speaker 1: And why is that place haunted?
Speaker 2: He's got a ton of artifacts in there. The scariest
Speaker 2: room was with the Odd Fellows skeletons in it. I
Speaker 2: was not aware that there were just like raw skeletons
Speaker 2: with tendons and stuff still on their face, just like
Speaker 2: out it's like out in the open, because I couldn't
Speaker 2: really see. And as I stepped into it, I like
Speaker 2: grabbed the skull and like was trying to figure out what
Speaker 2: it was. And I was like, Okay, this is a
Speaker 2: full on dead body. Like this isn't a replica.
Speaker 3: By any means.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was great.
Speaker 3: I loved it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I have this like obsession with death a
Speaker 2: little bit. I feel like it helps me maybe live
Speaker 2: my life a little fuller, just because I'm embracing the
Speaker 2: fact that we are going to die someday and that
Speaker 2: is very real and coming to peace with that allows
Speaker 2: me to live in a i don't know, maybe in
Speaker 2: a brighter way where I appreciate it more.
Speaker 1: Would you say that you're living for the dead.
Speaker 3: I would say that.
Speaker 1: No, But I you know, I think about that a
Speaker 1: lot too, people that have a fascination for the paranormal.
Speaker 1: To whatever degree, I wonder how much of it is
Speaker 1: a obsession with death. I wonder about that for myself,
Speaker 1: and I think it's very human to wonder what happens
Speaker 1: when we die. It's like the one fact that is
Speaker 1: true about all of us, that we all have in common,
Speaker 1: and that we're all going to have loved ones die
Speaker 1: like it's just it's just a part of it, but
Speaker 1: we don't fully know. So when we get these little signs,
Speaker 1: these little blips or whatever, it is very intriguing. It's like,
Speaker 1: tell me more absolutely.
Speaker 2: There's so much to it, and I feel so introspective
Speaker 2: after an investigation where I really love thinking about maybe
Speaker 2: the meaning of life and life after death and where
Speaker 2: it is that we go and do we have a soul?
Speaker 2: Is it possible that our spirits continue to walk the earth.
Speaker 2: Is it possible that it's just memories trapped in like
Speaker 2: a weird quantum physics way that we don't fully understand yet.
Speaker 2: There are so many options and I am just dying
Speaker 2: to know.
Speaker 1: Or is it all of them?
Speaker 3: It could be all of them.
Speaker 1: What's when you say you're dying to know? Because once
Speaker 1: you die is when you will know exactly you. Also
Speaker 1: did in an episode of was it called Ghost Adventures house Calls?
Speaker 2: Yes, that was during the pandemic. We flew out to
Speaker 2: Florida and investigated this home.
Speaker 3: It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: I mean it was house Calls, so it was mainly
Speaker 2: people's homes that were haunted. They had a pretty deep
Speaker 2: history with paranormal things, and I believe that we really
Speaker 2: helped them, and I hope that they're doing all right now.
Speaker 2: I do still talk to one of them and they
Speaker 2: say that the activity has gotten better since, so that
Speaker 2: makes me happy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think that was what really propelled me into this
Speaker 2: universe where I was like, Ooh, this is actually really
Speaker 2: fun and if this could be a full time job,
Speaker 2: I want it to be that. Yeah, cause us all
Speaker 2: I think about totally.
Speaker 1: Speaking of your full time job, one of my favorite
Speaker 1: parts of your job and my job is a little
Speaker 1: thing called electronic voice phenomenal. Can I play you some
Speaker 1: ghost voices?
Speaker 3: Yes? Please?
Speaker 1: It's time for EVPs or ev plicse Okay. What I do,
Speaker 1: Alex Lamay, is I go to YouTube or TikTok or wherever,
Speaker 1: and I find EVPs. What people say are ghost voices
Speaker 1: that they have captured in an investigation or however they
Speaker 1: get them. They throw them up on the internet. I say,
Speaker 1: ooh that one, and I'm going to play it for you.
Speaker 1: I want you to tell me what you hear, and
Speaker 1: then I'm going to give you a couple of options,
Speaker 1: one of them being the correct answer, which is what
Speaker 1: they believe the ghost to say.
Speaker 2: Do it?
Speaker 1: Okay? The first one is from a place that you
Speaker 1: and I have been together, the iconic Waverly Hills sen Notorium.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: Though I'm always tempted to call it sanatorium, the Waverley
Speaker 1: Hills Sanatorium, which is an old tuberculosis hospital that has
Speaker 1: gone on to also be known as one of the
Speaker 1: most haunted places in the entire world. And a lot
Speaker 1: of people go in there and ghost hunt, and who
Speaker 1: even knows what the ghosts are at this point, there's
Speaker 1: I mean, do people bring things in? Are people spicing
Speaker 1: things up? And they're Ouiji boards and I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's just so much spiritual activity in the air. And
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that I don't know the exact location of
Speaker 1: where in Waverle Hills because it's a massive place, but
Speaker 1: somewhere in there. Christine ayers one on TikTok found this voice.
Speaker 1: What is it saying, Alex LeMay, let's go.
Speaker 3: What again?
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of like a longer like I
Speaker 1: don't like. I think that's sort of the the rhythm
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 3: Is it cursing?
Speaker 1: Listen, It's very possible. Do you have any guesses?
Speaker 2: It sounds like that's my blank you fucker.
Speaker 3: Could could be really wrong.
Speaker 1: There, because that's my man, you fucker, I.
Speaker 2: Hear, motherfucker at the end.
Speaker 1: Possible, but that's not what Christina Yirs want on TikTok believed.
Speaker 1: Is it a don't you wanna fuck me? I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: that's what it does kind of sound. Okay, is it
Speaker 1: B you're standing right in front of me. Is it
Speaker 1: C it's a free country? Or D you don't want
Speaker 1: it from me, which is a classic warning you don't
Speaker 1: want it from me. Okay, it's one of those. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna play it again.
Speaker 2: It's probably the last one. You don't want it from me.
Speaker 1: I could hear that, Christina ayres one believes that it
Speaker 1: is B. You're standing right in front of me. Okay,
Speaker 1: now that we know that, let's listen again. I think
Speaker 1: it is don't you want to fuck me?
Speaker 2: It's like it's like I can project what I want
Speaker 2: to hear on that one really well because it's not
Speaker 2: super clear right.
Speaker 1: Right, but it's it's listen. I think it very well
Speaker 1: could be something. I just don't know exactly what it's saying. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's another one. Now, this is not a place that
Speaker 1: we went to on the show, but this is a
Speaker 1: place that you and I have been before, which is
Speaker 1: the Birdcage Theater in Tombstone, Arizona.
Speaker 2: Oh fun, that was fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of those little old Western towns that's
Speaker 1: super haunted. And do you call that a ghost town?
Speaker 1: I don't really know Arizona culture.
Speaker 2: Yes and no, because there are people there right exactly.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of people in full on old
Speaker 1: West cosplay literally, people like doing reenactments in the street.
Speaker 1: It's pretty fun. Also a lot of Make America Great
Speaker 1: Again regalia, true, but also a lot of ghosts. So
Speaker 1: here is an EVP that was posted by San Diego
Speaker 1: Haunted fifty nine sixty five on YouTube. What is it saying? Okay,
Speaker 1: this one creeps me out. It's like a.
Speaker 3: Whisper ooh it is?
Speaker 1: Let me play it again?
Speaker 2: No? Not. All I could make out was don't something
Speaker 2: something possibly my hand.
Speaker 1: Don't talk to my hand because the face don't want
Speaker 1: to hear it.
Speaker 3: I could see that.
Speaker 1: Wow, that is not what san Diego Haunted fifty nine
Speaker 1: to sixty five thought. Do you think is it a?
Speaker 1: Those pants are it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Like, damn, those pants are it?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: B Oh? Look at him?
Speaker 2: Is it? C?
Speaker 1: Then let them in or d let's get lit. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me play it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I hear it. Don't let them in. I think that's
Speaker 3: it now.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that's what I say, but they
Speaker 1: believe it was c then let them in. Now I
Speaker 1: hear don't let them in. I also hear don't let
Speaker 1: them in, but they say, then let them in.
Speaker 2: Let's hear it again.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think it could be then let them in
Speaker 1: or don't let them in. Yeah, somebody they're letting someone somewhere. Okay, Alex.
Speaker 1: Before we wrap up, you and I are about to
Speaker 1: share with the world very soon this television project that
Speaker 1: we worked on together. Let's talk about it a little bit.
Speaker 1: So we went to eight different locations. What would you
Speaker 1: say was the scariest one that we went to?
Speaker 2: Ooh, the scariest probably Lamp the.
Speaker 1: Lamp Mansion, which is in Saint Louis, Missouri. That was
Speaker 1: the final destination that we went to. It was why
Speaker 1: would you say that was the scariest.
Speaker 2: I think out of all the locations, I felt pretty good.
Speaker 2: I felt like I had a good handle on my footing,
Speaker 2: like I wasn't getting knocked over anything. And something about
Speaker 2: the Lamp Mansion it knocked me off of my feet
Speaker 2: a lot. I don't know how to describe it. Really,
Speaker 2: it was like the room was spinning a lot and
Speaker 2: I kept seeing these shadows that were crawling up the walls,
Speaker 2: which I didn't see in any of the other locations
Speaker 2: mm hmm. And the amount of energy that was in there.
Speaker 2: It was just so heavy. And us sleeping there, I
Speaker 2: think that location was the hardest.
Speaker 1: It's an old mansion, historic site where it's also a
Speaker 1: bed and breakfast that people stay in, and very well
Speaker 1: known as a haunted place. Yeah, we did have a
Speaker 1: lot of activity at that place. That is the place
Speaker 1: that made me physically ill, which was a first for me.
Speaker 1: I've got a pretty strong stomach when it comes to like, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god, the stuff that I can eat and
Speaker 1: be fine with, or gross things I can hear about
Speaker 1: or whatever like. I usually don't get sick like that.
Speaker 1: But that place, I went into the area that people
Speaker 1: feel bad vibes, and it made me ill.
Speaker 2: You were so sick. We were all surprised.
Speaker 3: I was very sick.
Speaker 1: I also saw what I believed to be a shadow
Speaker 1: figure creature did you of some sort in that place, yes,
Speaker 1: which was new to me. I've actually never seen one,
Speaker 1: so that was pretty creepy to me.
Speaker 2: It's so creepy, especially when they're climbing the walls. I
Speaker 2: don't see that a lot, and that was the only
Speaker 2: place I've seen that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't see that, but that one looked to
Speaker 1: me like the ghost had to poop really bad or
Speaker 1: pee or something. I don't even know how to describe
Speaker 1: it other than like a scurry when you really gotta go.
Speaker 1: Like it was like it ran across my eyeline, like.
Speaker 2: Like the butt was tucked in and it was scoochin, yes.
Speaker 1: And it was crouched down, and it was just like
Speaker 1: coming through, coming through, coming through. That's what it looked
Speaker 1: like to me.
Speaker 2: They say that Edwin was really short, so I think
Speaker 2: that checks out.
Speaker 1: Edwin Lamp was one of the people that they believe
Speaker 1: is the spirit in that home. They say, so, what
Speaker 1: was your favorite memory with me while shooting this TV show,
Speaker 1: Oh with You?
Speaker 2: My favorite memory with you is at the Scottsdale House,
Speaker 2: especially because of how tough you are on psychics.
Speaker 3: You didn't believe any of it.
Speaker 2: You were like, no, I don't believe any of this,
Speaker 2: Like you were done.
Speaker 1: I'm skeptical of psychics. I'm the first one to admit it.
Speaker 1: And I did work with a team of I mean
Speaker 1: three psychics and you in your words, a failed medium,
Speaker 1: but nonetheless you got a little bit of it, and
Speaker 1: I'm skeptical of it. You know, doesn't mean I don't believe.
Speaker 1: But we went to this house. I don't want to
Speaker 1: give too much away, but I saw some psychics doing
Speaker 1: the thing that you want to see them do.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what's funny is like over the years
Speaker 1: of doing the show, and it's it's funny because I'm
Speaker 1: just this is just now occurring to me. I've interviewed
Speaker 1: so many people that do these kinds of shows, and
Speaker 1: I'm always asking them questions like what do you guys do,
Speaker 1: like when you're done shooting for the day, or like
Speaker 1: how do you travel? Like do you guys do you
Speaker 1: travel together? And like I don't know. I always want
Speaker 1: to just like know all those kind of details, and
Speaker 1: it makes me think about you and I like like
Speaker 1: when we were traveled from place to place and like
Speaker 1: getting little candy snacks and driving around.
Speaker 2: Yes, hanging out in our hotel room.
Speaker 1: Going to an RV because we do drive in an
Speaker 1: RV across country. There's only so much that can be
Speaker 1: seen in a forty three minute show. They can't show everything.
Speaker 1: For example, with the Clown Motel episode, which at this
Speaker 1: time of recording is the only one that you and
Speaker 1: I have seen. There were things that didn't make it
Speaker 1: into it, including like when we slept because we did
Speaker 1: sleep there. Yeah, we really did sleep there for three
Speaker 1: nights and I hated it and you were tormented.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that location absolutely messed me up. I've never been
Speaker 2: so affected by a location like that. I felt like
Speaker 2: I was crying all of the time. I couldn't sleep.
Speaker 2: I don't think I slept the whole time. Actually, now
Speaker 2: I think back, I maybe total three hours in all
Speaker 2: three of those days.
Speaker 1: And this is the kind of stuff that I want
Speaker 1: people to know that are going to be watching the show.
Speaker 1: And again I'm skeptical. I watched some of these shows
Speaker 1: sometimes and I'm like, they're not really sleeping there are
Speaker 1: They Like, how come I'm not seeing this or seeing that? Like, well,
Speaker 1: it's because of the time, you can't see everything. But
Speaker 1: when we stayed there, I think it was the first night,
Speaker 1: like getting texts from you that are like, I am
Speaker 1: seeing something in my room and I can't deal with this.
Speaker 1: And then me and Ken went down to your room
Speaker 1: with cameras to see what we could get and I
Speaker 1: was sleeping in Ken's room platonically because I was so
Speaker 1: damn scared of my room. And Ken's room was the
Speaker 1: one where allegedly a ghost would pull on your feet
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night and tickle your toes
Speaker 1: or whatever. And then Ken starts going to sleep and
Speaker 1: his foot starts shaking like crazy. And I'm sitting here,
Speaker 1: like where am I? I'm in the middle of nowhere, Nevada,
Speaker 1: at a damn clown motel. I got a psychic whose
Speaker 1: leg is being pulled to the other side right now.
Speaker 1: And then I got you downstairs crying because there's a
Speaker 1: demon trying to take you to the other side.
Speaker 2: I don't know what was going on in that room,
Speaker 2: but it was not okay. It was not okay. And
Speaker 2: it was the one that had the giant exorcist face.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very cozy.
Speaker 2: There was a whole mural of the exorcist s face
Speaker 2: with vomit coming out. Everything about that room was uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: There was something in the air that was so devastatingly sad.
Speaker 2: It affected me to where I, oh god, it was awful.
Speaker 2: I stayed with Juju, I stayed with you. I stayed
Speaker 2: with anybody who would let me stay because I just
Speaker 2: could not sleep in that room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you did stay with me, and tell me about
Speaker 1: your experience sleeping in the same room as me.
Speaker 2: Platonically, I do not know how you sleep with the
Speaker 2: heat or that high.
Speaker 3: Honestly, it was so hot in that room.
Speaker 1: It was thirty degrees out.
Speaker 3: No, but you had it at like eighty two.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be toasty, Yes you did.
Speaker 3: We were fully toasted. We were burnt.
Speaker 1: My theory with that is that ghosts are cold, and
Speaker 1: I'll melt their asses. They're like ice cup, They're like snowmen.
Speaker 3: Okay, has that worked before?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Trying out new things I was experimenting.
Speaker 2: We slept with every single light in that room on.
Speaker 1: I did. I wasn't paying the electric I kept every
Speaker 1: light on in every haunted room I stayed in.
Speaker 3: And you finally fell asleep.
Speaker 2: You were sitting up in like no covers on or anything,
Speaker 2: like you're watching for something, and just passed out right there,
Speaker 2: like propped up, screwing.
Speaker 1: My body just gave out because I did not sleep
Speaker 1: that entire time.
Speaker 3: We were so tired.
Speaker 1: I just saw a picture today. Well, we all were
Speaker 1: sharing a picture from our final day of the shoot,
Speaker 1: which was eight weeks I think eight nine weeks something
Speaker 1: like that, and I'm like, that's somebody that hasn't slept
Speaker 1: a good night's sleep in eight nine weeks. I mean
Speaker 1: I did not sleep in those places.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we all had a rough go.
Speaker 1: And then once I got to the RV or to
Speaker 1: another hotel that wasn't haunted, it was just like like
Speaker 1: twelve hours of sleep. Like it was so it was rough,
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't change it for the world.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I like those memories. I liked coming home, exhausted,
Speaker 2: door dashing the biggest meal possible, and then just passing out.
Speaker 3: It was wonderful, totally. I loved it. Well, Alex, sure
Speaker 3: do you love yet I love you.
Speaker 1: As heavy with dinnis together. Tell the people where they
Speaker 1: can find you and what you got going on. Tell
Speaker 1: them about your story. You make the coolest things.
Speaker 3: Thanks well.
Speaker 2: I'm on Instagram at it's Alex LeMay. Same with TikTok
Speaker 2: and YouTube TikTok Celebrity. Oh please, it's not that many followers,
Speaker 2: Big TikTok Oh and Moon Goddess Market. It's the name
Speaker 2: of my store. I make lots of little sassy gadgets
Speaker 2: and keychains and shirts and things.
Speaker 1: Yeah you hear that Moon Goddess market for all you
Speaker 1: spooky people out there there there's like so many cool, unique,
Speaker 1: great little gifts and just like fun things for the
Speaker 1: unique spooky person in your life and support small businesses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I also make paranormal gear and that's where it's located. Cool.
Speaker 1: See, I love that. I think a lot of what
Speaker 1: we're doing with this show is sort of making the
Speaker 1: paranormal a little you know, it's getting a little makeover
Speaker 1: in some ways. I mean it's sort of how my
Speaker 1: podcast is too, Like there's vibes to it. It's just
Speaker 1: a little different. It's not better or worse or whatever
Speaker 1: than the way that other people do it, but you know,
Speaker 1: we got a little it's the word riz that the
Speaker 1: kids say. There's a little riz, there's a little style,
Speaker 1: there's a little flair to it. And I think that
Speaker 1: the esthetic of like the kind of stuff that you do,
Speaker 1: Like you have like really cute paranormal equipment. If somebody
Speaker 1: ever wants like a sparkly coffin shape rem pod or
Speaker 1: something like, Alex is the one that will get it
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm trying to make it cute, cute and creepy.
Speaker 2: I'm here for it. I love the vibes.
Speaker 3: I love that we.
Speaker 2: Can dress up and show up to these locations looking
Speaker 2: fucking amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you better believe I'm wearing platforms. Try wearing
Speaker 1: platforms in an abandoned tuberculosis sanatorium. It's not it's not easy. Okay, well, Alex,
Speaker 1: that'll do it for this time. But I hope you
Speaker 1: come back some other time. And I love you. Bye
Speaker 1: bye bye, Thank you so much to Alex le May.
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. Check out what Alex does at her store,
Speaker 1: like incredible stuff that you can buy online, and be
Speaker 1: sure to watch the show October eighteenth on Hulu, Living
Speaker 1: for the Dad. Also, I got some tour dates where
Speaker 1: I'm doing stand up, telling jokes not about go and
Speaker 1: not for children. I get a little saucy. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna gets a little saucy. A joke about you know, stuff,
Speaker 1: stuff that grown ups talk about, a lot of queer
Speaker 1: stuff if you like queer kind of stuff like that,
Speaker 1: So please, I'd love to see you at one of
Speaker 1: my stand up shows. Go to my link and my
Speaker 1: bio on Instagram and of course, make sure you're looking
Speaker 1: at the Instagram for this podcast called Ghosted by Ros.
Speaker 1: Just add Ghosted by Ros. Those story highlights on the
Speaker 1: main page, those little circles that you see. One says dolls,
Speaker 1: one says episode stuff. That's where you can find these
Speaker 1: doll pictures, like different photos and videos of things that
Speaker 1: we talk about. Make sure you're checking those out. I'll
Speaker 1: be back next week I get to talk to another
Speaker 1: one of my glorious cast members of this TV show.
Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me
Speaker 1: came back. This has been an exactly right production. Want
Speaker 1: to share your paranormal experience on the podcast. I read
Speaker 1: stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you. So
Speaker 1: email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: You can send a DM or voice message to the
Speaker 1: show's Instagram at Ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow
Speaker 1: while you're there, and follow me Roz on Instagram at
Speaker 1: Roz Hernandez and on TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez.
Speaker 1: My senior producer is the Startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer
Speaker 1: is the alarming alex Chie. This episode was mixed and
Speaker 1: sound designed by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker
Speaker 1: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the
Speaker 1: hair raising Hannah Kyle Frighten. My theme music is by
Speaker 1: the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky
Speaker 1: Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced
Speaker 1: by the Chilling Karen Kilgareth, the Spooky Georgia hard Stark,
Speaker 1: and the Frightening Danielle Kramer.