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Speaker 1: I said, I gas Nandas please hey boo, it's me

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Speaker 1: Roz and welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast

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Speaker 1: where I talk to people that I like about things

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Speaker 1: that make me go ee, this too scary. It's Living

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Speaker 1: for the Dead month. It is October. Season one of

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Speaker 1: Living for the Dead is about to come out October

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Speaker 1: eighteenth on Hulu, all eight episodes dropping. And this whole

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Speaker 1: month I get to talk to my lovely cast, and

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Speaker 1: today I get to talk to Alex LeMay, who is

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Speaker 1: somebody that has a ton of experience ghost hunting and

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Speaker 1: really knows technology. Actually, Alex Lamay, a couple months ago,

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Speaker 1: I got a cable thing for my TV. I don't

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Speaker 1: let's see, this is how I am a cable thing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know any of this stuff. And I spent

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Speaker 1: hours with this damn thing. I was about to go

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Speaker 1: take it back and get a new one because I

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Speaker 1: couldn't figure it out. I call Alex Lamay and she's like,

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Speaker 1: let's FaceTime. Within three seconds she's like, oh yeah, I

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Speaker 1: put that in that thing and that and that thing. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure the average person also could have figured it out.

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Speaker 1: But to me, that is true wizardry. Okay, that is

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Speaker 1: witchcraft at its finest, and I admire it. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk more are today about Alex LeMay and her experiences.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing. I don't know these people's experiences. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I hope that throughout this month we'll talk a lot

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Speaker 1: about that. It's funny because, like, I love talking to

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Speaker 1: people that work in the paranormal industry, but I've never

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Speaker 1: talked to ones that I've like intimately traveled and done

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Speaker 1: investigations with, you know. So it's crazy how close we

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Speaker 1: are bonded, the five of us on this show. We

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Speaker 1: like when you're spending that much time and traveling and

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Speaker 1: also going through like now we're going to be on

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Speaker 1: spent so much time talking to people that do these

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Speaker 1: kinds of TV shows now that I've done one. This

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Speaker 1: stuff is real, y'all. And I'm skeptical. You know this

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Speaker 1: about me. I'm not just gonna believe any little thing

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Speaker 1: when you're actually there, Like, yeah, you watch these shows,

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Speaker 1: and sure, I've poked fun before about how you watch

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Speaker 1: these shows and they're constantly like something just grab my arm,

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Speaker 1: crazy how I've spent so many years watching these and

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Speaker 1: NonStop paranormal activity. That's the other thing. You watch these

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Speaker 1: there's cameras. Let's perform for the cameras. It doesn't work

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Speaker 1: that way. We know it doesn't work that way. But

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Speaker 1: But right now I want to talk to the amazing also,

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Speaker 1: I am squealing like a little piggy, like a like Arizona. Haavealina,

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Speaker 1: because I am joined by Alex Lea May Hello, Hi,

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Speaker 1: Hi Alex. Now, first, first off, please don't tell the

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Speaker 1: So okay, So this is gonna be funny because you

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Speaker 1: I have been very good about this. As tempting as

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Speaker 2: That sounds great, and that's true because you've cut me

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get real aggressive. Shut up.

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Speaker 2: I've tried to calculate how many hours you and I

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Speaker 1: We'll see who knows. Okay, let's just get into it.

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Speaker 1: Who are you, where are you from? What got you

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of questions. My name is Alexandre LeMay.

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Speaker 2: I'm a paranormal investigator with an inclination towards tech, really

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Speaker 2: into electronics, and I've been investigating since I could remember.

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Speaker 2: I think because I've come from a family of people

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Speaker 1: I am not sensitive.

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Speaker 1: I am a hardened show pony. I am not sensitive

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Speaker 1: in any way. I am just like, what you see

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well for sure. But some places you can

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Speaker 2: You know, I've thought about this in the past. I

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Speaker 2: I mean, there are so many different anomalies that happen

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Speaker 2: is something paranormal or not? I love all that stuff

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Speaker 1: I feel like my stubborn ass. If I was a

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Speaker 1: you don't pay my bills, don't tell me what to do?

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Speaker 1: Come on, say? Are you happy to be here? What's

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Speaker 1: your name? Bitch? I don't know you? Why would I

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Speaker 1: tell you anything? Can you dance for us? Are you

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Speaker 3: That's a really good question.

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Speaker 1: Let me think, because you also made some toys I did.

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Speaker 3: I did the shoes.

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't say toys.

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Speaker 3: Why not?

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I don't want to like undermine

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Speaker 1: To me, they're like fun. They're like fun toys.

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Speaker 3: True, they're like adult toys.

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Speaker 1: But they're like I know that there's like science to it,

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Speaker 1: Tell me about some of the ones that you worked

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Speaker 2: I brought a pair of shoes, a pair of dancers

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Speaker 2: I did. I brought a pair of dancers heels, those

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I want to hear some paranormal stories from you.

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Speaker 1: I know you have a billion of them.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: When you are at a cocktail soiree and the topic

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Speaker 2: I love telling people about my haunted apartment.

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Speaker 1: The current one.

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Speaker 3: Yes, living here.

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Speaker 2: From what I've gathered, there is an older woman and

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Speaker 3: Of all places.

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Speaker 2: When I first signed the lease, I was standing in

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Speaker 2: By the way, in Arizona thing, I don't have to

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Speaker 2: But my neighbor that lives in the guest house in

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Speaker 2: you can tell her the truth. As I was signing, right.

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Speaker 2: So they're giving me the rundown about how they had

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Speaker 1: I've never broken a lease, but like, it's a big deal.

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Speaker 1: That's money you got to pay, right, Like, aren't you

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think it was three or six months worth.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, I mean that's for me to spend that

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Speaker 1: That's where I draw the line. Yeah, I got myself

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Speaker 2: I've tried to get you to say so many times.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't even use the bathroom here you were out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, not interested. But I got a lovely hotel

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Speaker 2: So I think The best story was when my neighbor

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Speaker 2: The music was blasting, people were talking, somebody had banged

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Speaker 3: I don't know what was going on over there, but

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Speaker 2: texted me and said, oh, I've been at work all

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Speaker 1: So was the grandma ghost having a rager?

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Speaker 3: I can't make any sense of it.

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Speaker 2: It still baffles me to this day, because no one

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Speaker 1: Wasn't I talking to you on the phone or something?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I have so many stories it would

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Speaker 2: take me a minute to even remember. Oh. I've had

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Speaker 2: but instead a couple paintings from.

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Speaker 3: Above were ripped off.

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Speaker 1: Weird.

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Speaker 2: It was only photos of my family, which made it

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: When stuff like that happens, though, I just try not

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Speaker 2: because I don't want to fuel the fire by any means.

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437
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Speaker 2: to ignore them a little bit, set down more boundaries.

438
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 1: It does that make them want to work harder, though.

439
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 2: They haven't since then. I also do witchcraft quite often

440
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,959
Speaker 2: in the house. I put up different wards. I do

441
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 2: a lot of things to communicate to them that they

442
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 2: have to stay in the kitchen. They can't come in

443
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 2: my room anymore. We have like designated areas that you

444
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 2: can haunt and where you can't go. It is basically

445
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 2: my bedroom. This is my safe room.

446
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm just picturing this little granny tiptoe in like I

447
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 1: likes to see me, but I really want to go

448
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: in this other room.

449
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 3: No, I think it's her son.

450
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: Oh it's the sun.

451
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 2: I think it's the sun. And the reason I know

452
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 2: that is because a medium friend of mine came over,

453
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 2: took like two steps in the house and was like, Okay,

454
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: I see an old lady and I see this this

455
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 2: younger male that I think is possibly her son. And

456
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 2: prior to him saying that, I had already thought that

457
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 2: was what was going on because I had seen glimpses

458
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: of them walking around, and for him to confirm that

459
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 2: and then not want to come in the house was

460
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 2: pretty spooky. I'm not gonna lie, but I also love that.

461
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 2: I like, really love it. I love that I live

462
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 2: in a haunted house.

463
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: But like, how do you keep them in one section?

464
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 2: Like?

465
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: Are they physically not allowed to leave? I mean, I

466
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: guess physically is not the right word, but like, is

467
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: it a conscious thing where they're like, I'm not allowed

468
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: to go over there? Or is it like an electric

469
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 1: fence where like if they go over there, they get zapped.

470
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 3: Could you imagine that old lady walking through the threshold

471
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 3: and just like, hi, dear, I may do some.

472
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 2: Cleaning the kitchen. Yeah, she has shut cabinets before. She's sweet.

473
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: But her son does some weird stuff around the house.

474
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 2: It's mainly just for him, because I've never had a

475
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 2: problem with her.

476
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: Oh, I like her. I'm not sure about him.

477
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 2: I'm not sure either. I think he's a little bit

478
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 2: of a creep. I have different things hanging on my

479
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 2: doorway and the mirrors to make sure that they can't

480
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: be used for portals. You know. I do regular spell

481
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 2: work here, just to keep the energy right, because I'm

482
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: not trying to get attacked in the middle of the night.

483
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: I really love my sleep. I just could not sacrifice

484
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 2: my sleep.

485
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: But wait a second, how do you know who is who?

486
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: Because you also collect haunted dolls?

487
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 3: I do. It's a mess here.

488
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: So how do you know when it's a haunted doll,

489
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: when it's Granny, when it's the sun.

490
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 2: I was saying earlier that I'm a failed medium. I

491
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 2: do see them physically and kind of in my mind.

492
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 2: It's like a little bit of both. When it's the

493
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 2: guy that's here, I usually can tell it's him, like

494
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 2: it feels different and his height. He's so much taller

495
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: than the woman. The haunted dolls I regularly hang out

496
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 2: with and do little investigations just to say hi and

497
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: figure out what their names are, so I have a

498
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: good grasp on who's who when it comes to stuff

499
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 2: going crazy in the house. Otherwise it would just be chao.

500
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: Because I bring so many weird things into this house

501
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: on a regular basis. I have so many antiques, so

502
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: many haunted dolls. I have this clock that another investigator

503
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 2: sent me a long time ago. That might be the

504
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 2: creepiest thing I own because I don't know what's attached

505
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: to that, but it's not very nice. But it also

506
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: doesn't leave the clock. It just kind of like stays

507
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: with it. So I haven't really had to do much

508
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 2: with that.

509
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: I love the idea of a bitchy clock.

510
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 2: It's a real bitchy clock. It's a cuckoo clock, has

511
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 2: a little bird and everything.

512
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: What makes you think that it's got something not nice

513
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: attached to it?

514
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 3: I don't know.

515
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: No one ever feels right when they're around it. And

516
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 2: normally I feel like when you tell someone it's haunted,

517
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: they're like, ooh, I'm scared. I don't feel well, like

518
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: they just project that onto it. But this particular clock,

519
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 2: I don't tell people it's haunted. And when people come over,

520
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 2: it's in a space where if you were just standing

521
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 2: next to my doorway in my bedroom, you would get

522
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 2: a sense of what's going on with the clock because

523
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 2: you're so close to it. It's like right where your

524
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: head would be. And I've had two people so far

525
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: stand next to it talking to me about something completely

526
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 2: different and start to get the chills and like feel

527
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 2: really uncomfortable and be like I felt like somebody was

528
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: right next to me where the clock was, It's what

529
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: they would say. So I've had a lot of incidences

530
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: with people where they would tell me something weird is

531
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: with that clock and they just don't like it without

532
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: provoking them to tell me.

533
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 1: Tell me about these haunted dolls. Where did you get

534
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: these haunted dolls? Are these eBay fines?

535
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 3: No, they're thrift findes.

536
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: Okay.

537
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: People send me photos all the time of creepy dolls

538
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: that they find at the thrift store.

539
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: Me too, really, oh, non stop.

540
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 3: This is why we get along so well.

541
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 1: I know our dms are probably similar in some ways.

542
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: Totally the creepy dolls, though I don't think most of

543
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 2: them are haunted. I just kind of call them haunted dolls.

544
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 2: I think three actually do have attachments. The rest don't.

545
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: They're just and what makes you think that.

546
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: The investigations that I do with them, I'll set a

547
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 2: rempod next to them and just kind of like hang out,

548
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 2: ask questions.

549
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: Tell us what a rempod is.

550
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: You know what a rempod is?

551
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: I know, but a lot of the listeners don't know

552
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: this geek shit.

553
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So a rempod is this little disc like thing

554
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: with an antenna on the top and the antenna emits

555
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: a little field around it, an electromagnetic field, and when

556
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: you enter that field, it alarms. So it has a

557
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: sensor on it that'll tell you how close you are

558
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 2: to the antenna, so the sound will get more intense

559
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: the closer you are to the antenna. So if you

560
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 2: grab onto it, it's very very loud, but if you

561
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: just kind of like creep into the field, it'll be

562
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: a little quiet beep. It's a really cool device because

563
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: then you can really gauge how close somebody is or

564
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: how much energy is being used to illuminate the lights

565
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: and make the sound go off.

566
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: That one I find very convincing. I do too, having

567
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: used it a lot on this of the show. We

568
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: had a lot of times where you know, we test it,

569
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: we touch it, it makes a noise, it lights up,

570
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: so we know that it works, and it only works

571
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: if somebody is touching it. And then if we're like

572
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: to the ghost touch it and then all of a

573
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: sudden like me and like so that was a goat.

574
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: Sorry that wasn't a rim pop. But if it like

575
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: you know, it beeps and starts lighting up and whatever,

576
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: like that's like, how did how did that happen.

577
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: Honestly, that's a really good idea to put some different

578
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: sounds other than beeps in it. Could you imagine one

579
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: that just made goat sounds. I want one that's like, oh,

580
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 2: don't touch me, there.

581
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: Don't touch just look, don't touch. Okay. So you set

582
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: one of those up next to these haunted dolls, and

583
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: so do you like ask it like are you a human?

584
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,479
Speaker 1: And then like if it lights up, then you're like, okay,

585
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: it's a human. Is that what we're talking?

586
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

587
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 3: I don't usually ask that.

588
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: I feel like I don't I want to know if

589
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: they're human or inhuman, right, it's one of those things

590
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: I'm just like, I don't care.

591
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 3: I don't care.

592
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: I just want to know your name and if there's

593
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: anything attached to it. I try not to bond with

594
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: them too much, because I'm not trying to end up

595
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: spending my life with some weird attachment and some weird doll.

596
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: Right, low commitment.

597
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

598
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: I tend to outfit them with electronics myself, which I

599
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: love doing. I like turning them into rempods themselves. This

600
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: one that was haunted, I took her head off and

601
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 2: I drilled her eyes out and put LEDs in them.

602
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: So God, you're so creepy.

603
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 3: You'd like that.

604
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: You're so creepy. I love it.

605
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: And she had an antenna sticking at the top of

606
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 2: her head and she was absolutely terrifying. I just love her.

607
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: But this is how I confirm that she really was haunted,

608
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: because in that process, so many bad things started happening

609
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: to me. My phone is like shattered in a million pieces.

610
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: I burnt myself really badly trying to put her head

611
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: back on. I had so many crazy things happen with her.

612
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: But she's a functioning red pod now.

613
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: I love.

614
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: I think she said her name was Sybil too, which

615
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: is just perfect Sybil.

616
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so funny. She burned you.

617
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 3: She was mad.

618
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: You know another thing about you, like when we first met,

619
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: when we were starting this project and stuff. Of the

620
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: five of us, you're the only one of us that

621
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: had done like TV paranormal investigating. Yeah, you have done

622
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: stuff with the Ghost Adventures people. Yes, how did that happen?

623
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: That happened in twenty eighteen where Zach was originally opening

624
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: his Haunted museum and people were submitting videos as to

625
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: why they would be locked into the Haunted museum by

626
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 2: themselves and when I submitted it, Oh my god.

627
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: That's the thing about you. That's the thing that people

628
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: need to know about who you are, is that you're

629
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: the first one that's like, Ooh, a coffin where dead

630
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: people have been in, I want to do that sounds

631
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: that sounds relaxing to me, Like you on this show

632
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: are the one that's like I want the scariest of

633
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: all scary. That stuff seems to not phase you at all.

634
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: No, there's just something about it. It makes me feel alive.

635
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: I really really love it because it's almost like I

636
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: put myself in these kind of dangerous situations because I

637
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: am half skeptic and half a believer. Most of the time,

638
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: my brain is telling me none of this is real,

639
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: and if something is happening, I absolutely have to prove

640
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: that it's actually happening. So I don't typically get scared

641
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: unless there's some undisputable proof going on, And in that moment,

642
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 2: my desire is to cap sure it because I don't

643
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,719
Speaker 2: know if it's being Probably like a scientist would if

644
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: something's happening and they're like, oh my god, I have

645
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: to capture this is life changing. So that takes over

646
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: and then I'm not scared anymore. I'm just like, oh

647
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: my god, I have to document this. This is everything

648
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: I've been waiting for. So my fear is really counteracted

649
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: by curiosity. I have so much curiosity.

650
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: So Zach Beggins is like, who wants to sleep in

651
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: my basement in Las Vegas? And you were like me, yep,

652
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: And then he chose you.

653
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: He did, and I got locked into the Haunted Museum

654
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: by myself for quite a few hours. I think it

655
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 2: was like four hours with a camera strapped to me

656
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: and I couldn't see but like two feet in front.

657
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 3: Of my face. It was fantastic. I was living my

658
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 3: best life.

659
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: And why is that place haunted?

660
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: He's got a ton of artifacts in there. The scariest

661
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 2: room was with the Odd Fellows skeletons in it. I

662
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: was not aware that there were just like raw skeletons

663
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: with tendons and stuff still on their face, just like

664
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: out it's like out in the open, because I couldn't

665
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: really see. And as I stepped into it, I like

666
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: grabbed the skull and like was trying to figure out what

667
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: it was. And I was like, Okay, this is a

668
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: full on dead body. Like this isn't a replica.

669
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 3: By any means.

670
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was great.

671
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 3: I loved it.

672
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I have this like obsession with death a

673
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: little bit. I feel like it helps me maybe live

674
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 2: my life a little fuller, just because I'm embracing the

675
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: fact that we are going to die someday and that

676
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 2: is very real and coming to peace with that allows

677
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: me to live in a i don't know, maybe in

678
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 2: a brighter way where I appreciate it more.

679
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: Would you say that you're living for the dead.

680
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:42,959
Speaker 3: I would say that.

681
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: No, But I you know, I think about that a

682
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,959
Speaker 1: lot too, people that have a fascination for the paranormal.

683
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: To whatever degree, I wonder how much of it is

684
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: a obsession with death. I wonder about that for myself,

685
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: and I think it's very human to wonder what happens

686
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: when we die. It's like the one fact that is

687
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: true about all of us, that we all have in common,

688
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: and that we're all going to have loved ones die

689
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: like it's just it's just a part of it, but

690
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: we don't fully know. So when we get these little signs,

691
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: these little blips or whatever, it is very intriguing. It's like,

692
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: tell me more absolutely.

693
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: There's so much to it, and I feel so introspective

694
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 2: after an investigation where I really love thinking about maybe

695
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: the meaning of life and life after death and where

696
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 2: it is that we go and do we have a soul?

697
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: Is it possible that our spirits continue to walk the earth.

698
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: Is it possible that it's just memories trapped in like

699
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 2: a weird quantum physics way that we don't fully understand yet.

700
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: There are so many options and I am just dying

701
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: to know.

702
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: Or is it all of them?

703
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 3: It could be all of them.

704
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: What's when you say you're dying to know? Because once

705
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: you die is when you will know exactly you. Also

706
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 1: did in an episode of was it called Ghost Adventures house Calls?

707
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: Yes, that was during the pandemic. We flew out to

708
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 2: Florida and investigated this home.

709
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 3: It was a lot of fun.

710
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: I mean it was house Calls, so it was mainly

711
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: people's homes that were haunted. They had a pretty deep

712
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 2: history with paranormal things, and I believe that we really

713
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: helped them, and I hope that they're doing all right now.

714
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 2: I do still talk to one of them and they

715
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: say that the activity has gotten better since, so that

716
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 2: makes me happy.

717
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

718
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 2: I think that was what really propelled me into this

719
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: universe where I was like, Ooh, this is actually really

720
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: fun and if this could be a full time job,

721
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 2: I want it to be that. Yeah, cause us all

722
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: I think about totally.

723
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: Speaking of your full time job, one of my favorite

724
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 1: parts of your job and my job is a little

725
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: thing called electronic voice phenomenal. Can I play you some

726
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: ghost voices?

727
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 3: Yes? Please?

728
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: It's time for EVPs or ev plicse Okay. What I do,

729
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 1: Alex Lamay, is I go to YouTube or TikTok or wherever,

730
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: and I find EVPs. What people say are ghost voices

731
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: that they have captured in an investigation or however they

732
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: get them. They throw them up on the internet. I say,

733
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: ooh that one, and I'm going to play it for you.

734
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: I want you to tell me what you hear, and

735
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: then I'm going to give you a couple of options,

736
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: one of them being the correct answer, which is what

737
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: they believe the ghost to say.

738
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: Do it?

739
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: Okay? The first one is from a place that you

740
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: and I have been together, the iconic Waverly Hills sen Notorium.

741
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: Yes.

742
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: Though I'm always tempted to call it sanatorium, the Waverley

743
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: Hills Sanatorium, which is an old tuberculosis hospital that has

744
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: gone on to also be known as one of the

745
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: most haunted places in the entire world. And a lot

746
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: of people go in there and ghost hunt, and who

747
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: even knows what the ghosts are at this point, there's

748
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: I mean, do people bring things in? Are people spicing

749
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: things up? And they're Ouiji boards and I don't know.

750
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: There's just so much spiritual activity in the air. And

751
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that I don't know the exact location of

752
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: where in Waverle Hills because it's a massive place, but

753
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: somewhere in there. Christine ayers one on TikTok found this voice.

754
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: What is it saying, Alex LeMay, let's go.

755
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: What again?

756
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of like a longer like I

757
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 1: don't like. I think that's sort of the the rhythm

758
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: of it.

759
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 3: Is it cursing?

760
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: Listen, It's very possible. Do you have any guesses?

761
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 2: It sounds like that's my blank you fucker.

762
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 3: Could could be really wrong.

763
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: There, because that's my man, you fucker, I.

764
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: Hear, motherfucker at the end.

765
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: Possible, but that's not what Christina Yirs want on TikTok believed.

766
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: Is it a don't you wanna fuck me? I'm sorry,

767
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: that's what it does kind of sound. Okay, is it

768
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: B you're standing right in front of me. Is it

769
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 1: C it's a free country? Or D you don't want

770
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: it from me, which is a classic warning you don't

771
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: want it from me. Okay, it's one of those. I'm

772
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: gonna play it again.

773
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: It's probably the last one. You don't want it from me.

774
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: I could hear that, Christina ayres one believes that it

775
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: is B. You're standing right in front of me. Okay,

776
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:34,479
Speaker 1: now that we know that, let's listen again. I think

777
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: it is don't you want to fuck me?

778
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: It's like it's like I can project what I want

779
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: to hear on that one really well because it's not

780
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 2: super clear right.

781
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: Right, but it's it's listen. I think it very well

782
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: could be something. I just don't know exactly what it's saying. Okay,

783
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: here's another one. Now, this is not a place that

784
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: we went to on the show, but this is a

785
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: place that you and I have been before, which is

786
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: the Birdcage Theater in Tombstone, Arizona.

787
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: Oh fun, that was fun.

788
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of those little old Western towns that's

789
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: super haunted. And do you call that a ghost town?

790
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 1: I don't really know Arizona culture.

791
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: Yes and no, because there are people there right exactly.

792
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of people in full on old

793
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: West cosplay literally, people like doing reenactments in the street.

794
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 1: It's pretty fun. Also a lot of Make America Great

795
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: Again regalia, true, but also a lot of ghosts. So

796
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: here is an EVP that was posted by San Diego

797
00:41:50,280 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: Haunted fifty nine sixty five on YouTube. What is it saying? Okay,

798
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: this one creeps me out. It's like a.

799
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 3: Whisper ooh it is?

800
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: Let me play it again?

801
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: No? Not. All I could make out was don't something

802
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: something possibly my hand.

803
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: Don't talk to my hand because the face don't want

804
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: to hear it.

805
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 3: I could see that.

806
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 1: Wow, that is not what san Diego Haunted fifty nine

807
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: to sixty five thought. Do you think is it a?

808
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: Those pants are it?

809
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 3: Oh?

810
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: Like, damn, those pants are it?

811
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 2: Is it?

812
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: B Oh? Look at him?

813
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 2: Is it? C?

814
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: Then let them in or d let's get lit. Okay,

815
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: let me play it.

816
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: Now.

817
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 3: I hear it. Don't let them in. I think that's

818
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 3: it now.

819
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that's what I say, but they

820
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: believe it was c then let them in. Now I

821
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: hear don't let them in. I also hear don't let

822
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: them in, but they say, then let them in.

823
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 2: Let's hear it again.

824
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I think it could be then let them in

825
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: or don't let them in. Yeah, somebody they're letting someone somewhere. Okay, Alex.

826
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: Before we wrap up, you and I are about to

827
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: share with the world very soon this television project that

828
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: we worked on together. Let's talk about it a little bit.

829
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: So we went to eight different locations. What would you

830
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: say was the scariest one that we went to?

831
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 2: Ooh, the scariest probably Lamp the.

832
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: Lamp Mansion, which is in Saint Louis, Missouri. That was

833
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: the final destination that we went to. It was why

834
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: would you say that was the scariest.

835
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 2: I think out of all the locations, I felt pretty good.

836
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: I felt like I had a good handle on my footing,

837
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: like I wasn't getting knocked over anything. And something about

838
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 2: the Lamp Mansion it knocked me off of my feet

839
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 2: a lot. I don't know how to describe it. Really,

840
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 2: it was like the room was spinning a lot and

841
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 2: I kept seeing these shadows that were crawling up the walls,

842
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 2: which I didn't see in any of the other locations

843
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 2: mm hmm. And the amount of energy that was in there.

844
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: It was just so heavy. And us sleeping there, I

845
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 2: think that location was the hardest.

846
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: It's an old mansion, historic site where it's also a

847
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 1: bed and breakfast that people stay in, and very well

848
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: known as a haunted place. Yeah, we did have a

849
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: lot of activity at that place. That is the place

850
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: that made me physically ill, which was a first for me.

851
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: I've got a pretty strong stomach when it comes to like, yeah,

852
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: oh my god, the stuff that I can eat and

853
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 1: be fine with, or gross things I can hear about

854
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: or whatever like. I usually don't get sick like that.

855
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: But that place, I went into the area that people

856
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 1: feel bad vibes, and it made me ill.

857
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: You were so sick. We were all surprised.

858
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 3: I was very sick.

859
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: I also saw what I believed to be a shadow

860
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: figure creature did you of some sort in that place, yes,

861
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: which was new to me. I've actually never seen one,

862
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: so that was pretty creepy to me.

863
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: It's so creepy, especially when they're climbing the walls. I

864
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 2: don't see that a lot, and that was the only

865
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 2: place I've seen that.

866
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't see that, but that one looked to

867
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: me like the ghost had to poop really bad or

868
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: pee or something. I don't even know how to describe

869
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: it other than like a scurry when you really gotta go.

870
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: Like it was like it ran across my eyeline, like.

871
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: Like the butt was tucked in and it was scoochin, yes.

872
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: And it was crouched down, and it was just like

873
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: coming through, coming through, coming through. That's what it looked

874
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: like to me.

875
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 2: They say that Edwin was really short, so I think

876
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 2: that checks out.

877
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: Edwin Lamp was one of the people that they believe

878
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: is the spirit in that home. They say, so, what

879
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: was your favorite memory with me while shooting this TV show,

880
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: Oh with You?

881
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: My favorite memory with you is at the Scottsdale House,

882
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: especially because of how tough you are on psychics.

883
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 3: You didn't believe any of it.

884
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 2: You were like, no, I don't believe any of this,

885
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: Like you were done.

886
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: I'm skeptical of psychics. I'm the first one to admit it.

887
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: And I did work with a team of I mean

888
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: three psychics and you in your words, a failed medium,

889
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: but nonetheless you got a little bit of it, and

890
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: I'm skeptical of it. You know, doesn't mean I don't believe.

891
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: But we went to this house. I don't want to

892
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: give too much away, but I saw some psychics doing

893
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: the thing that you want to see them do.

894
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

895
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: Well, you know what's funny is like over the years

896
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: of doing the show, and it's it's funny because I'm

897
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: just this is just now occurring to me. I've interviewed

898
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 1: so many people that do these kinds of shows, and

899
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: I'm always asking them questions like what do you guys do,

900
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: like when you're done shooting for the day, or like

901
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: how do you travel? Like do you guys do you

902
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: travel together? And like I don't know. I always want

903
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: to just like know all those kind of details, and

904
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: it makes me think about you and I like like

905
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: when we were traveled from place to place and like

906
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: getting little candy snacks and driving around.

907
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 2: Yes, hanging out in our hotel room.

908
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: Going to an RV because we do drive in an

909
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: RV across country. There's only so much that can be

910
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 1: seen in a forty three minute show. They can't show everything.

911
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: For example, with the Clown Motel episode, which at this

912
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: time of recording is the only one that you and

913
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: I have seen. There were things that didn't make it

914
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: into it, including like when we slept because we did

915
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: sleep there. Yeah, we really did sleep there for three

916
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: nights and I hated it and you were tormented.

917
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, that location absolutely messed me up. I've never been

918
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: so affected by a location like that. I felt like

919
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 2: I was crying all of the time. I couldn't sleep.

920
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 2: I don't think I slept the whole time. Actually, now

921
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: I think back, I maybe total three hours in all

922
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: three of those days.

923
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: And this is the kind of stuff that I want

924
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: people to know that are going to be watching the show.

925
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: And again I'm skeptical. I watched some of these shows

926
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: sometimes and I'm like, they're not really sleeping there are

927
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: They Like, how come I'm not seeing this or seeing that? Like, well,

928
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: it's because of the time, you can't see everything. But

929
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: when we stayed there, I think it was the first night,

930
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: like getting texts from you that are like, I am

931
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 1: seeing something in my room and I can't deal with this.

932
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: And then me and Ken went down to your room

933
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: with cameras to see what we could get and I

934
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: was sleeping in Ken's room platonically because I was so

935
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: damn scared of my room. And Ken's room was the

936
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: one where allegedly a ghost would pull on your feet

937
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night and tickle your toes

938
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: or whatever. And then Ken starts going to sleep and

939
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: his foot starts shaking like crazy. And I'm sitting here,

940
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: like where am I? I'm in the middle of nowhere, Nevada,

941
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: at a damn clown motel. I got a psychic whose

942
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: leg is being pulled to the other side right now.

943
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: And then I got you downstairs crying because there's a

944
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: demon trying to take you to the other side.

945
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what was going on in that room,

946
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 2: but it was not okay. It was not okay. And

947
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 2: it was the one that had the giant exorcist face.

948
00:49:58,440 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, very cozy.

949
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 2: There was a whole mural of the exorcist s face

950
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 2: with vomit coming out. Everything about that room was uncomfortable.

951
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: There was something in the air that was so devastatingly sad.

952
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 2: It affected me to where I, oh god, it was awful.

953
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 2: I stayed with Juju, I stayed with you. I stayed

954
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: with anybody who would let me stay because I just

955
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:19,919
Speaker 2: could not sleep in that room.

956
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you did stay with me, and tell me about

957
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: your experience sleeping in the same room as me.

958
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 2: Platonically, I do not know how you sleep with the

959
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: heat or that high.

960
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 3: Honestly, it was so hot in that room.

961
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: It was thirty degrees out.

962
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 3: No, but you had it at like eighty two.

963
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: I wanted to be toasty, Yes you did.

964
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 3: We were fully toasted. We were burnt.

965
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: My theory with that is that ghosts are cold, and

966
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: I'll melt their asses. They're like ice cup, They're like snowmen.

967
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 3: Okay, has that worked before?

968
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. Trying out new things I was experimenting.

969
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: We slept with every single light in that room on.

970
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: I did. I wasn't paying the electric I kept every

971
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: light on in every haunted room I stayed in.

972
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 3: And you finally fell asleep.

973
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 2: You were sitting up in like no covers on or anything,

974
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 2: like you're watching for something, and just passed out right there,

975
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 2: like propped up, screwing.

976
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: My body just gave out because I did not sleep

977
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: that entire time.

978
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 3: We were so tired.

979
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: I just saw a picture today. Well, we all were

980
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: sharing a picture from our final day of the shoot,

981
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 1: which was eight weeks I think eight nine weeks something

982
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 1: like that, and I'm like, that's somebody that hasn't slept

983
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: a good night's sleep in eight nine weeks. I mean

984
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: I did not sleep in those places.

985
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, we all had a rough go.

986
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: And then once I got to the RV or to

987
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: another hotel that wasn't haunted, it was just like like

988
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: twelve hours of sleep. Like it was so it was rough,

989
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't change it for the world.

990
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I like those memories. I liked coming home, exhausted,

991
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 2: door dashing the biggest meal possible, and then just passing out.

992
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 3: It was wonderful, totally. I loved it. Well, Alex, sure

993
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 3: do you love yet I love you.

994
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: As heavy with dinnis together. Tell the people where they

995
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: can find you and what you got going on. Tell

996
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: them about your story. You make the coolest things.

997
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 3: Thanks well.

998
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 2: I'm on Instagram at it's Alex LeMay. Same with TikTok

999
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 2: and YouTube TikTok Celebrity. Oh please, it's not that many followers,

1000
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 2: Big TikTok Oh and Moon Goddess Market. It's the name

1001
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 2: of my store. I make lots of little sassy gadgets

1002
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 2: and keychains and shirts and things.

1003
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: Yeah you hear that Moon Goddess market for all you

1004
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: spooky people out there there there's like so many cool, unique,

1005
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: great little gifts and just like fun things for the

1006
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: unique spooky person in your life and support small businesses.

1007
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I also make paranormal gear and that's where it's located. Cool.

1008
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: See, I love that. I think a lot of what

1009
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: we're doing with this show is sort of making the

1010
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: paranormal a little you know, it's getting a little makeover

1011
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: in some ways. I mean it's sort of how my

1012
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: podcast is too, Like there's vibes to it. It's just

1013
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: a little different. It's not better or worse or whatever

1014
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: than the way that other people do it, but you know,

1015
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: we got a little it's the word riz that the

1016
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: kids say. There's a little riz, there's a little style,

1017
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: there's a little flair to it. And I think that

1018
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: the esthetic of like the kind of stuff that you do,

1019
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: Like you have like really cute paranormal equipment. If somebody

1020
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: ever wants like a sparkly coffin shape rem pod or

1021
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: something like, Alex is the one that will get it

1022
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: for you.

1023
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm trying to make it cute, cute and creepy.

1024
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 2: I'm here for it. I love the vibes.

1025
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 3: I love that we.

1026
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 2: Can dress up and show up to these locations looking

1027
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 2: fucking amazing.

1028
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you better believe I'm wearing platforms. Try wearing

1029
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: platforms in an abandoned tuberculosis sanatorium. It's not it's not easy. Okay, well, Alex,

1030
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: that'll do it for this time. But I hope you

1031
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: come back some other time. And I love you. Bye

1032
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 1: bye bye, Thank you so much to Alex le May.

1033
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. Check out what Alex does at her store,

1034
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: like incredible stuff that you can buy online, and be

1035
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: sure to watch the show October eighteenth on Hulu, Living

1036
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: for the Dad. Also, I got some tour dates where

1037
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: I'm doing stand up, telling jokes not about go and

1038
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: not for children. I get a little saucy. I'm not

1039
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: gonna gets a little saucy. A joke about you know, stuff,

1040
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 1: stuff that grown ups talk about, a lot of queer

1041
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 1: stuff if you like queer kind of stuff like that,

1042
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: So please, I'd love to see you at one of

1043
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: my stand up shows. Go to my link and my

1044
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: bio on Instagram and of course, make sure you're looking

1045
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 1: at the Instagram for this podcast called Ghosted by Ros.

1046
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: Just add Ghosted by Ros. Those story highlights on the

1047
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: main page, those little circles that you see. One says dolls,

1048
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: one says episode stuff. That's where you can find these

1049
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: doll pictures, like different photos and videos of things that

1050
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: we talk about. Make sure you're checking those out. I'll

1051
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 1: be back next week I get to talk to another

1052
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: one of my glorious cast members of this TV show.

1053
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if

1054
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me

1055
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: came back. This has been an exactly right production. Want

1056
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,919
Speaker 1: to share your paranormal experience on the podcast. I read

1057
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you. So

1058
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.

1059
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: You can send a DM or voice message to the

1060
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 1: show's Instagram at Ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow

1061
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: while you're there, and follow me Roz on Instagram at

1062
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: Roz Hernandez and on TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez.

1063
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: My senior producer is the Startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer

1064
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: is the alarming alex Chie. This episode was mixed and

1065
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 1: sound designed by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker

1066
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the

1067
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 1: hair raising Hannah Kyle Frighten. My theme music is by

1068
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky

1069
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 1: Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced

1070
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: by the Chilling Karen Kilgareth, the Spooky Georgia hard Stark,

1071
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: and the Frightening Danielle Kramer.