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Speaker 1: in Oakland when he had Jerry Rice and Tim Brown

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Speaker 1: and there on the back side of his career, he's

430
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Speaker 1: getting Antonio Brown still in his prime. He certainly can

431
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Speaker 1: create opportunities. Remember he helped Joey Galloway have phenomenal numbers

432
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Speaker 1: in Tampa when he got ahold of him, and so, uh,

433
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,760
Speaker 1: he certainly can do it. They do need some star

434
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Speaker 1: power on the outside. And then when you think about

435
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Speaker 1: this move and broader strokes, they're playing another year in

436
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Speaker 1: Oakland before they move into Vegas. When you come to Vegas,

437
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 1: you need to come with some stars. It's not a

438
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,040
Speaker 1: big start wide receiver. Then Odell Beckham Jr. Didn't A

439
00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,960
Speaker 1: b ab certainly can put some butts in seats while

440
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Speaker 1: also scoring touchdowns. Maybe it's a good fit. The only

441
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Speaker 1: reason I went with a Washington risk is you just

442
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,200
Speaker 1: we've seen this happen you often with Daniel Snyder. He

443
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 1: can't resist, he can't resist the town they play it.

444
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,640
Speaker 1: But you're right, the Oakland Raiders have a lot of capital.

445
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 1: The thing about it with the Pittsburgh still is really

446
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Speaker 1: be willing to trade him into the a f C. Yeah, No,

447
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,000
Speaker 1: it's uh. I just don't know that they necessarily view

448
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders at least in the short term as

449
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 1: a threat, and by the time they might be a threat,

450
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,720
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown could be on the back end. That's why.

451
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Speaker 1: And I get it. And they've made I want to say, uh,

452
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Speaker 1: they made the Martavis Bryant trade together, they made the

453
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Speaker 1: Ryan Switzer trade together, both these organizations. So this would

454
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Speaker 1: be the third wide receiver trade they'd have made in

455
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Speaker 1: the last couple of years. So they do have a

456
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Speaker 1: relationship there. I don't know, that's a team that makes

457
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Speaker 1: the most sense to me. And then Tennessee the third

458
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Speaker 1: team in the mix. Um, Look, they've just they've got

459
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Speaker 1: to get more explosive. I like Corey Davis. Uh, he

460
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Speaker 1: love Delaney Walker. He stays healthy. They've they've proven they

461
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 1: can power the ball in the run game with Derrick Henry,

462
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Speaker 1: but they need some more explosive weapons. And to me,

463
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Speaker 1: that's why you could see that being a match there

464
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:02,719
Speaker 1: with them. I just don't know what they're where they

465
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Speaker 1: fit in terms of what they would give up, if

466
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,679
Speaker 1: they'd have enough. If Oakland wants them, they're gonna get

467
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,959
Speaker 1: them because they can outbid everybody. They absolutely can't outbid everybody.

468
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 1: Just matter, do they really want it? If this was

469
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 1: a game of spades. If they dropped a big joker,

470
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna claim all the books. So they can get

471
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Speaker 1: maybe if they want it. It's just a matter of

472
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Speaker 1: how much do they want to give up together. But

473
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Speaker 1: the way that you talked about really manipulating the picks

474
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 1: that they have in the first round, they certainly can

475
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Speaker 1: get back whatever they gave up, like just by trading

476
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 1: back and doing some things. Uh, they can do it.

477
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,439
Speaker 1: The one thing that has to happen for the Raiders

478
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Speaker 1: out of this draft they have to make up for

479
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Speaker 1: the star power that they lost. They have different there's

480
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Speaker 1: some blue players a Marii Cooper and Khalil Mack. They

481
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Speaker 1: have to be able to get those those guys replaced.

482
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Speaker 1: And if you think about it, if they are picking

483
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Speaker 1: where they are in the top of the first round,

484
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: buck and they come away with uh, Josh Allen and

485
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, Uh, you've got your edge rusher. You can say, Okay,

486
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,959
Speaker 1: that explains the mac part of it. And then if

487
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: you were able to acquire Antonio Brown via trade, then

488
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 1: you've swapped out. Then it doesn't look as bad if

489
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Speaker 1: you end up with Nick bo So uh combined with

490
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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown and you gave up Khalil mack uh and

491
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: Mary Cooper, like you can have that conversation, you know

492
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, Okay, Khalil max is gonna be

493
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: a little bit better th Nick Bosa, but Nick Mosa

494
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: is younger, cheaper, um. And then you look at Antonio Brown,

495
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 1: I'd argue a better player than Mark Cooper. So then

496
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: you make sense that you mean he has been the best.

497
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 1: It's been the best in the lake. So I know

498
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 1: Mark Cooper is younger, but nonetheless it means to see

499
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Speaker 1: what happens there. All right, I know we have something

500
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Speaker 1: down here on the franchise tag buck, I say, we

501
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 1: kind of roll listen, we'll put We'll put on that.

502
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,360
Speaker 1: Let's get right to you. Mock draft, mock draft through

503
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: it two point oh right after the combine, Like, man,

504
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: you had to do this, like on the plane, right

505
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: on the plane leaving Indianapolis. Crankt that thing out. We

506
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: gotta get it out. People love their mock drafts, a

507
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 1: universal praise. By the way, not a bad word said,

508
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: of course. I mean, let's let's what do you think

509
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 1: go through it? Just tell me what I'm going through.

510
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 1: Your top, your top, Murray Bosa, Williams, Alan and Sweat.

511
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: And the thing that stand is that I think the

512
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: first four I'm kind of I think we're numb too.

513
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: I think we kind of expect Calumaray to go one

514
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: Bossa go after that. Williams going to the Jests, I

515
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: think it's terrific. Josh Allen with the Raiders. They need

516
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: an edge Russia. But at five, Montess Wege going to

517
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Please explain yourself. Tampa getting another

518
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: edge rusher. You know last year, uh we saw them

519
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 1: go out and and uh and pick up Jason Pierre Paul,

520
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: get him another one. This defense needs more again, more

521
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 1: difference makers. You want to help out a young secondary,

522
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 1: you go hunt the quarterback and to me, you put

523
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: him in there. Vita Vas started to come on a

524
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 1: little bit at the end of the year last year.

525
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: Now you've got a chance to have a dynamic defensive line.

526
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 1: He could play like you can stand him up, you

527
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: can you put his hand on the ground obviously show

528
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 1: with his athleticism, he's a freak. Um. So to me,

529
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,360
Speaker 1: getting a difference maker up front that can hunt the quarterback,

530
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: That's why I go Montes, Sweat and and ironically even

531
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 1: uh body type wise a little bit. Um. You go

532
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: back to Simeon Rice when he was there, buck body

533
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: type wise, you can see some of those same uh

534
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: and bird body type and birth. They should say you

535
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: see some similarities there. Yeah, I mean you can. You

536
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: can see him come off the edge like he He

537
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: would be terrific parents opposite of JPP. The issue that

538
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: they have is depending on what they do with Gerald McCoy,

539
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: if they retain him. If they don't retain him, it

540
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: sounds like he's gonna come back. So if they heap

541
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 1: him inside like this would really give them to legitimate rushers.

542
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: And the thing that I like about Montes what is

543
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: not only the athleticism that he displayed at the combine,

544
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 1: but I think he plays hard and I think his

545
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: motor and effort is going to give him a chance

546
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: to be a double digit sack artist opposite JPP. So

547
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Speaker 1: I actually like to pick. I just want to hear

548
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: you explain it. Yeah, there you go. No, and look,

549
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 1: Jerald McCoy is not what he was. Um No, you

550
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: put JPP out there in Montess sweat and you get

551
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: be Tovey who can occupy some blockers and now you

552
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: now you're cooking with gas. Yeah. So okay, so let's

553
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 1: let's finish out the top ten. We got Haskins, would

554
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: you wan Taylor for Shaw and Gary going to the

555
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions, DK Metcalf going to the Buffalo Bills, and

556
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: Andre Dillard to the Denver Broncos. And I think let

557
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Speaker 1: me to touch on the dealer. I want to touch

558
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: the dealer thing real quick there because I know Garrett

559
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: Bowls have been a first round pick. Garret Bowls is

560
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: not played well. Um to me, I would kick Bowls

561
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: over to the right side and Andre Dillard to your

562
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: left tackle. That's what I would do. I mean that

563
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: makes sense. I mean Garrett Bowls and I can't remember

564
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: what pick exactly he was taken on, but he was

565
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: a little overdrafted. There was a reach there because there

566
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: were some concerns, remember when he came out about his strength,

567
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: because when we watched him on tape, there were sometimes

568
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 1: where he didn't overwhelm uh edge blocker, edge rushers on

569
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: the on the on the perimeter. And then so he

570
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: was the twentieth pick overall, and so you worried about that.

571
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: And then the athleticism we like the athleticism, but you

572
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: just worried about it. So now maybe we kick him

573
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: over to the right side. He has a better deal

574
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: because maybe he's not facing the premier guys week after week.

575
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: And then Andre Dillett, we know, is a dancing bear

576
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: and for the system that they're putting in that zone

577
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: blocking scheme, they fit, so it should be a better deal.

578
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: Mike Munchek is going to do a great job of

579
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 1: kind of rebuilding this offensive line, and so maybe he

580
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: is a really good fit. A ten. All right, let's

581
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: uh go through the rest of it here, Buck, just

582
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: go through, pull out a couple, give you two more,

583
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: two more names there that and I can be put

584
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: on the standard defend my defend myself here. Uh. The

585
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons at fourteen take Burns, Brandon Burns from Florida State. Uh,

586
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 1: we we got to talk about this wild sure, it's

587
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: it's kind of ironic because Brian Burns when I watched him,

588
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: um and trying to figure out, okay, who does who

589
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 1: does he remind you of here? People have a type, right,

590
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: we always say executives have a type, and so he

591
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: kind of fits that as somebody with some big time

592
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: speed playing inside in that in that dome and inside

593
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: that division. I think you can make some sense of that. Now.

594
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: My question with him, same with Beasy when he was

595
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: coming through college, how much he gonna weigh? Um, he

596
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: heard he played in the two twenties. He shows up,

597
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 1: He's put on a ton of good weight and uh

598
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: and carried it really well. He had a phenomenal workout

599
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: uh there, as as did Vic Peasley back in the day.

600
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: And I know Vic Beasley has been inconsistent uh for

601
00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons buck. Uh. This kid has is intriguing though,

602
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: And to me, you get another fastball to come off

603
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: the edge tack mckinlan. I think he had what seven

604
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: sacks last year? Um, you've got something to work with there.

605
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: And and Beasley, who's been an underwhelming I think you

606
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: feel like you could have upgraded over Vic Beasley here

607
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: with Brian Burns a little newer, better version. Yeah. I mean, look,

608
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: they want to uh and talking to Thomas Dimitroff at

609
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: the combine, they talked about wanting urgent athletes, guys that

610
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: are explosive fast, they kind of play like their hairs

611
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: on fire. Burns shows that ability and look, he was

612
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: impressive in the combine in terms of being a little

613
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: heavier but still putting down good times. Um. When you

614
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: think about the Atlanta facts and dan Quinn taking over

615
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: his defense, we saw what he was able to do

616
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: with Bruce Irvin when he had him in Seattle. UM,

617
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: I think this is this is an intriguing pick because

618
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 1: it certainly fits the prototypes and how they typically like

619
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: to play their guys. Um. One other guy that I

620
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: have to talk about. I'm gonna go all the way

621
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: down to your former squad because I always feel like

622
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: you have your ear to the street when we talk

623
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: about the Baltimore Ravens Paris Campbell. Yeah, at Baltimore. This

624
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: is something we've talked about on the pot, right, how

625
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: do you build this team around Lamar Jackson? And we've

626
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: said you build a track team around Lamar Jackson because

627
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: you think about the way you're gonna be able to

628
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: run the ball. They have all these tight ends you're

629
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: gonna put out there. You're gonna see a lot of

630
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: one on one. You're gonna see a lot of single

631
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 1: high safety buck people are gonna designate so many resources

632
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: to stop the run. So make them pay for it

633
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: when you throw the football, make them pay for it

634
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: down the field. You want to commit all those resources.

635
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: Paris Campbell can get over the top of it. We

636
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: can hit some home runs. We're not gonna need to

637
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: have four and five third down conversions on the drive

638
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: to score. We're gonna pound you, pound, you pound your

639
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: boom and the other thing with Paris Campbell, all that

640
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: run stuff. He's your he's your he's your reverse guy,

641
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: he's your shovel guy. You do all that stuff because

642
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna see We're gonna see a lot of teams

643
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: look at the Rams this offseason, and more teams are

644
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: going to take what the Rams were able to successfully

645
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: do the flash sweep game and all that stuff. You

646
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: pointed out the stat that Wire receivers a mass maybe

647
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: four hundred and twenty plus rushing attempts this year, where

648
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: you can guarantee that that's going to go up because

649
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: one thing that everyone in the league does, they study everybody,

650
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: and they're going to take the most popular things and

651
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: the most productive things and add them to the mix.

652
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: This is really what I think a perfect pick for them,

653
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: because not only do you have the guy that can

654
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: take the top off the defense, but now when you

655
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: think about the fly sweep and the misdirection stuff that

656
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: Baltimore did use when Greg Roman was kind of helping

657
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: out with the offense. But now you know they're taking

658
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: to the next level. Paris Campbell could be a factory

659
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: difference maker, could be an offensive weapon more so than

660
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: just a wide receiver. Yeah, I like that pick. Alright,

661
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: Kent wants to jump in here. Can't you got one?

662
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: You got a question? Yeah, I have one guy that

663
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: he's he's not on the list, but he was an

664
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: injury guy and one have been allowed at the combine.

665
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,959
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons. I just look at his talent. I know

666
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: you mentioned a few weeks ago. He's a guy that

667
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: character wise everything checked out when you talk to Mississippi

668
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: State people. Why is he a guy that might slip

669
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: to the second round? Now? Was just the injury. So

670
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: here's the here's the thing. He is a top five

671
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: player in this draft, no question. Mean, look at the

672
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: talent um. Two different things. Number one, the depth of

673
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: defensive line talent is so great that teams are gonna

674
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: have a hard time and know what you have to

675
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: sell us even if you have all that information I

676
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: mentioned about Jeffrey Simmons. You don't have to go through

677
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: ownership to make that, because there's a video out there

678
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: exists as soon as you get picked, he's gonna that's

679
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: gonna pop up. You're gonna have to deal with that. Um. So,

680
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: teams are looking at this saying, there's too many other

681
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: really good players. Now, Jeffrey Simmons might be a little

682
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,719
Speaker 1: bit better. If Jeffrey Simmons was healthy, he would trust him,

683
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: he'd be a top ten pick. But now you're gonna

684
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: have to You're gonna have to red shirt a guy

685
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: for a year coming off of an A C L

686
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to deal with some of the

687
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: blowback for what took place with him in high school.

688
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: And teams are saying, you know what, there's other good options.

689
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take these other good options right here.

690
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: And the third factor I would say is teams have

691
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,959
Speaker 1: done their homework on this. When you go back and

692
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: look at the players that have had to red shirt

693
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: their first year, missed that entire year, the hit rate

694
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: is very very low, even on guys you think we're

695
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: great players, and we got a tremendous value because he slipped,

696
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: because he was hurt. Um. Sidney Jones would be probably

697
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: the latest example who did not play that well last year.

698
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: Who's somebody we thought Buck was a top ten, top

699
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: fifteen type play to Washington didn't play well last year.

700
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: So there's all those different factors that that weigh into it.

701
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 1: Um that being said, would I'd be shocked if he

702
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: was picked in the first round. No, his talent is tremendous,

703
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: but just know you're gonna have to red shirt a

704
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: player and you're gonna have to deal with some blowback.

705
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: So that's why I had him sliding out. You're trying

706
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: to mitigate risk. I think that's the big thing. You're

707
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: trying to mitigate risk when you have the injury risk

708
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: and then you have the character situation that you've been

709
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: out despite um all of the positive things that you

710
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: would get back from the people from Missippi State. Is

711
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: one of those issues that you have to deal with

712
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: because you're right when you take him and you bring

713
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: him up with that initial pressor. That is something that

714
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: you have to deal with. And the one thing that

715
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: we know from dealing with owners, owners don't like distractions

716
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: and uncomfortable situations, particularly at those opening pressors and so

717
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: it's something that you have to account for, no doubt.

718
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, Buck, you had a chance at the

719
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: combine to speak to one of the rising stars in

720
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: the coaching profession. He's a new head coach at Ohio

721
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: State University, one of the premier programs in the country,

722
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: taking over for Urban Meyer. And uh, somebody's been around

723
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly. Very interesting background and someone that knows uh,

724
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: one of the top players in the draft as well

725
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: as anyone, especially uh other players. I don't even want

726
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: to say just a quarterback. I mean this Ohio State team.

727
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: We seemed like every five seconds there was another Ohio

728
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: State player stepping up to the line and ripping off

729
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: a four three forty and incredible, incredible group of prospects

730
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: in this year's draft class. But I really enjoy, Uh,

731
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: You're gonna really enjoy listening to this conversation between Bucky

732
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: and Ohio State head coach Ryan Day. So excited to

733
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: have Ohio State head coach Ryan Day coach. How is

734
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: everything going since officially being named hit coach? Uh, it's

735
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: going great. It's going great. Now we hit the ground

736
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: running recruiting. That was the big part of it, you know,

737
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: early on was making sure we got out there and

738
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: did a great job recruiting, and then should we start

739
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: on Wednesday and we're rolling for spring ball, So it's

740
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: right around the corner. And felt like we just played

741
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: in the Rose Bowl and now we're back in the

742
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 1: spring practice. How are how are things different for you

743
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: Nan that you are the head coach, even though you

744
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: still calling plays and doing things Banana, you're officially in

745
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: that capacity. How much would things change for you in

746
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: the fall? Just a lot more involved with the whole

747
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: with the whole operation. Uh, you know, recruiting is different. Uh,

748
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: you know, involved with everything that's going on, the motivation

749
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: of the team, the philosophy day in and day out,

750
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: special teams, and you know, keeping an eye on what's

751
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: going on defense, offense, and just overall the strength and conditioning.

752
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: You know, making variety as an unbelievable job with that,

753
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: but overall just running the whole operation. You have a

754
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: unique background and really a new unique perspective on how

755
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: the game is trending. Haven't played under Chip Kelly at

756
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: New Hampshire, having worked with him at a few different spots,

757
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: what are you seeing in terms of the way the

758
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: game is changing? I don't need collegiate level, but the

759
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: way it's also changed the NFL level, Yeah, it is.

760
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: It's changing every day. I think the thing you see

761
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: is you see a lot of things that are in

762
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: college getting going up into the NFL right now. And

763
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: I think, in my opinion, when you kind of watch

764
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: what we did on offense this year, it's kind of

765
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: where it's going. So you know, in the run game,

766
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: a lot of spread concepts. I think that you know,

767
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: guys are so big and strong nowadays that you need space.

768
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: You know, I think about what the Warriors did with

769
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: Steph Curry. You know they had to create space on

770
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: that that court. It's the same thing in the NFL.

771
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: It's the same thing in college. They need space. The

772
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: guys are so big, strong and fast now and so

773
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: we want to do that in the run game, you know,

774
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: create space, make guys play sideline to sideline. And then

775
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: you know in the passing game, you know a lot

776
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: of pro concepts where you know they're time tested, not

777
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: things that are just kind of drawn up week to week,

778
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: but plays over and over again that the guys have

779
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 1: run have confidence in. So your background as a quarterback, um,

780
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: we're seeing that so much of the game really centers

781
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: around the quarterback. What is the challenge in getting young

782
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: quarterbacks ready to play, even at the college over and

783
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: maybe at the NFL level. It takes time, you know,

784
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 1: and and you know, I think when you see kind

785
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: of like the way that Dwayne came on this year, uh,

786
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: so much of that was done leading up to to

787
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: this season. Understanding of protections Such a huge part of

788
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: being a quarterback nowadays is understanding what's going on up front. Um,

789
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: not only the confidence but the ability to uh, you know,

790
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: get the line to to protect for you, understand where

791
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: the where the defense is trying to attack you. But

792
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: then also defensive structure, understanding how to attack coverages undertand

793
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: understanding how your footwork times up with the progressions. All

794
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: those things come into play. And I think that um,

795
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, now quarterbacks are coming more and more prepared

796
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: into college into the NFL, but still so much work

797
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: to be done in the classroom. What makes Duwayne Haskin

798
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: such a special player? First off, he has a special

799
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: talent um, his innate accuracies some of the best I've

800
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: ever been around. Had a chance to be amount around

801
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan when he was at this age and um,

802
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: you know, very similar that way in the anticipation, the touch,

803
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: has a great feel for what's going on in front

804
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: of him. Um. You know, also has has really embraced

805
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: the classroom understands. Again, like we're talking protections, defensive structure,

806
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: what's going on in front of him. I thought he

807
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: did a really good job this year with that, you know,

808
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: especially late in the season with some of our games

809
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: where he took control of what was going on up front. Um.

810
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: But he has a he has a special spirit about him.

811
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: He doesn't get rattled. He stays pretty even keeled and uh,

812
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: and nothing's too big for him. You know when you

813
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: think about the stage being big, obviously you've been around

814
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: NFL quarterbacks and they have to perform in pressurise environments.

815
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: How do you think he will perform when he has

816
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: an opportunity to be a franchise quarterback. I think he'll

817
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: do great. I think that it's not gonna happen overnight.

818
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: You know, Dwanne hasn't played a whole lot of football,

819
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: so every time he's doing something, it will be for

820
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: the first time in the NFL. So I think every

821
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: time he plays, he'll be learning you know, we talked

822
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: about it all the time. You either win or you learn,

823
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: you don't fail. And I think he's gonna take that

824
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: approach when he's in the NFL, you know, and and

825
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: thinking about young quarterbacks and continue to develop them. What

826
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: would you say is the one thing that you absolutely

827
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: love about him? And what a franchise will love about

828
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: him when they begin to really dig down deep and

829
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: meet him. Uh, I would say overall his overall spirit.

830
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: He's got a great spirit about him and he's been

831
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: raised the right way. His his heart's in the right place. Uh.

832
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: He cares about the people around him, um, and he

833
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: wants to be great. I think he's been working his

834
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: whole life for this opportunity and he's gonna make sure

835
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: he wills himself to to be success full. And it's

836
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: not gonna happen overnight. He understands that. But during that journey,

837
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna bring a lot of people with him. So

838
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: You've also had a bunch of other good players that

839
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: have played for you, I know Ohio State and you

840
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: may have the number one player in the draft and

841
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa. What makes Nick Bosa different than some of

842
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: the other guys that have been around well, you know,

843
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: going up against him every single day when we were

844
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: on offense. It was hard. Uh, it was hard to blow.

845
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: He ruined practice all the time. Uh, you know, had

846
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 1: a hard time blocking him, and especially third down drill

847
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: and things like that, very very explosive and quick. Um.

848
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 1: But I think the thing that Larry Johnson, or defensive

849
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: line coach, did a great job of is he really

850
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: went back and watched the film and I think he

851
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: said on the five clip he found something last year

852
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: to get him a little bit better. And and that's

853
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: the way Nick is. He wants to get better. He

854
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: knows he's very good, he knows he's one of the

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Speaker 1: best in the game, but he keeps working to become great,

856
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Speaker 1: you know. I mean he has obviously had a terrific

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Speaker 1: career at Ohio State, but he's playing kind of in

858
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Speaker 1: the shadows of his older brother Joey. How do you

859
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Speaker 1: think he is motivated by the fact at this is

860
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Speaker 1: the family business everyone ahead of him has been a

861
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Speaker 1: first round pick. How do you think that kind of

862
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Speaker 1: plays in two and taps into the motivation that he

863
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Speaker 1: displays on the field. I think it gives them confidence.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I don't think he puts pressure on

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Speaker 1: himself to to do anything else that you know, some

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Speaker 1: of his family members have done. I think it gives

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Speaker 1: him confidence that he knows it can be done, and

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Speaker 1: he's his own person. When you get around him, you

869
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Speaker 1: see that he's got his own way about him and

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Speaker 1: and he's comfortable in his own skin. So, obviously, this

871
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Speaker 1: being your first full season at Ohio State, what are

872
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Speaker 1: some of the expectations that you have for your team?

873
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Speaker 1: Had four? Well, the first expectation is to play really,

874
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: really hard. You know. We we want to make sure

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Speaker 1: that every game that we're going what we call four

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Speaker 1: to six A to B, and we're going as hard

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Speaker 1: as we can so that at the end of the game, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know you played Ohio State. That's the

879
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: biggest thing. We want to play with a lot of energy.

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Speaker 1: Um And the thing that we're really trying to do

881
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Speaker 1: right now is when the guys walk into the building

882
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: to when they leave, tons of energy, a lot of

883
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Speaker 1: excitement around the program, and we on the win championships.

884
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Speaker 1: We're looking forward to watching you leave the buck eys

885
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: going forward and beyond. We're excited to have you on

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Speaker 1: the podcast. Thanks so much for joining all right, thanks

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Speaker 1: for having me all right, Buck, I think you can

888
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Speaker 1: take a lot from that conversation, and thank you for

889
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: hustling like crazy down there and grabbing all these interviews.

890
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Speaker 1: We're gonna have more coming uh your way. But in

891
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: this one to me, he jumps out to me, is

892
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: is just the intelligence when you hear about the intelligence

893
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: of Dwayne Haskins, and you can really tell uh coach

894
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Speaker 1: Day believes in him and what he can become. Yeah,

895
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Speaker 1: he believes in him any things that he can do,

896
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Speaker 1: so many things. When he gets to the next level.

897
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Speaker 1: He thinks he's gonna be a guy that can really

898
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Speaker 1: um take his game to the next level with even

899
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: more time to really preparing to dig into it. And

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Speaker 1: I think the other stuff that you talked about all

901
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Speaker 1: of us are how your state kids and and um,

902
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: how does the guys have been able to perform on

903
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: the major stage. Having conversations with him outside of the interview,

904
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Speaker 1: like he's just really really proud of what those kids

905
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Speaker 1: have been able to achieve. He likes the fact that

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Speaker 1: they've been able to work and that they perform well.

907
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Speaker 1: And so I'm excited to see these are Hio State

908
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Speaker 1: guys continue to populate the NFL, and I'm excited to

909
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: see what Ryan da us in his first full season

910
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Speaker 1: as a hey coach of d Ohio State boocast and

911
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Speaker 1: no doubt we've got a ton more interviews. I can't

912
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 1: hop on here. I know a bunch of these interviews

913
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Speaker 1: I believe are already up is at a NFL dot

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Speaker 1: com slash mts video. Where can where can everybody find

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00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: these other interviews we get from the combine. Yeah, if

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Speaker 1: you go to nfl dot com slash mts video, we

917
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Speaker 1: put up probably close to maybe fifteen interviews so far

918
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Speaker 1: over from the weekend into early this week. We talked

919
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Speaker 1: to Daniel Jones, Drew lock A, J. Brown, Calvin Harmon,

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Speaker 1: Andre Dillard, Juwan Taylor, Cody Ford all for the Clemson

921
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Speaker 1: d lineman, and Jerry Tillery. So we got a lot

922
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Speaker 1: of interviews. Maybe even, like I was kind of counting myself,

923
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Speaker 1: we could have as many as eight or nine first

924
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Speaker 1: round picks that we were able to get with move

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Speaker 1: the sticks. So yeah, it was a busy week, but

926
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Speaker 1: they're all up. We're starting to filter them out on

927
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Speaker 1: NFL dot com. A few were on social Twitter, I

928
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Speaker 1: G and everywhere else, and then we'll continue to put

929
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Speaker 1: them out here over the course of the next few

930
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Speaker 1: days and then start airing some of these interviews on

931
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Speaker 1: our next show air we'll be out Friday at midnight,

932
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Speaker 1: and then in the next week we'll keep dropping these

933
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Speaker 1: interviews on the show, no doubt, and we've got we've

934
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Speaker 1: already be done. We'll use some of this information we

935
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Speaker 1: gathered at the combine as well as some other stuff

936
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Speaker 1: we've been doing on the side here to work on

937
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: our three sixty series, which I know everybody enjoys, that

938
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: will be back this year as well. We look at

939
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: some of the top players and going back talking to

940
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: their high school coaches, teammates, you name it. We do

941
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: a full work up on some of the top guys

942
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Speaker 1: in the draft. So, uh, that will be coming your way.

943
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: And just a little bit, buck, We've got a tremendous

944
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Speaker 1: amount of content coming your way. Do we know, I

945
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: know it's a little bit early in the week here,

946
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Speaker 1: Do we know what's coming in the Bucky Brooks notebook

947
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: this week? What's ahead? We're working on it. So we're

948
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Speaker 1: working on discussing Josh Rosen and Josh Rosen's value. So

949
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Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do is dig down in his day,

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Speaker 1: just kind of give my assessment on debt. Talk to

951
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Speaker 1: some guys, give their take on where they think he

952
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Speaker 1: would fetch back on the open market. All right, Well,

953
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Speaker 1: the next time we convene, UM, we can discuss how

954
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: I guess right about the Oakland Raiders picking up Antonio Brown.

955
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: Can revisit that now the Redskins will trade to ones.

956
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: Just just you know, that's always on the table. That's

957
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: always on the tables, on the table, it's always on

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Speaker 1: the table. All right, that's gonna do it for us today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening. Thanks to can't for hustling

960
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 1: like crazy. Mark Brady was down there, big big boss

961
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: down there hustling as well. Uh, Bucky, phenomenal job at

962
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: the combine. I cannot wait to uh continue these conversations

963
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: as we go towards the twenty nineteen NFL Draft. We

964
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Speaker 1: have all your draft needs covered right here on the

965
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: Move the Sticks Podcast. We'll catch you next time. Thanks

966
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Speaker 1: for downloading Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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