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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the show that usually takes

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Speaker 1: you inside at RG Stadium, but we're taking you inside

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Speaker 1: the Staff Hotel downtown Green Bay, as we are here

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Speaker 1: for the Texans joint practices and preseason opener against the

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Speaker 1: Packers Thursday night at lambeau Field. Mark Vandermayer and John

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Speaker 1: Harris with you. Throughout the program. You will hear from

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Speaker 1: Tashaun Gibson. Johnny catches up with him. I catch up

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Speaker 1: with Josh Ferguson in the mix for that number two

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Speaker 1: running back job. We'll find out how he's faring this camp.

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Speaker 1: You'll hear from John McClain. Of course, Bill O'Brien on

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Speaker 1: the way. In just a few moments here. A lot

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Speaker 1: of things happening, Johnny, and I'll break down quarterbacks mostly, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: And don't forget Wednesday. I want to tease it right now, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: because Wednesday morning, at nine am, you're going to break

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Speaker 1: down every position on the roster in one segment and

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be rapid fire. Boom boom, boom boom. It'll

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Speaker 1: be good stuff. Never been done before. Oh yeah, and

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Speaker 1: by the way, quick note, this historic hotel we're staying

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Speaker 1: at it's very cool. And not the entire team is here,

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Speaker 1: just some staff members because it's not a hotel large

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Speaker 1: enough in Green Bay to house of visiting NFL team.

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Speaker 1: Usually when you play the Packers, you stay in Appleton, Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: not in Green Bay. But this is cool being down here.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting a kind of the shining vibe a little

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Speaker 1: bit from this place, you know, Kid out of Tricycle

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Speaker 1: kind of ebe. But it's a very beautiful hotel. And

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you it's so historic that they still have

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Speaker 1: the mail slots for the keys at the front desk,

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Speaker 1: you know those key slots where you get your mail

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Speaker 1: and the keys and everything, and not because they're too

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Speaker 1: lazy to change it. They've restored everything beautifully here. You

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Speaker 1: and I had the same moment of panic over the

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Speaker 1: time time difference. No, the time on the clocks tell

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Speaker 1: the story, because so this morning, it's a good story

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Speaker 1: because I had this moment. I had this moment later

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Speaker 1: a second and went we second, it's oh yeah, you

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Speaker 1: and I are leaving at six fifteen. And I told

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Speaker 1: the guy at the front desk. I said, the clock

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Speaker 1: is fifteen minutes fast. It says six thirty. He said,

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Speaker 1: Lombardi time. Yeah, and he said all the clocks in

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Speaker 1: the hotel are set fifteen minutes fast. That is cool,

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Speaker 1: that's awesome Lombardi time. Indeed, anyway, we don't want to

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Speaker 1: use up all our Lombardi time, our little grace period

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Speaker 1: we have here. So let's get right to it. Bill O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: After practice today began with something very serious and for

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Speaker 1: good reason. Let's listen into what the coach had to say.

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Speaker 1: Before I get started, just want to say a couple

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Speaker 1: of things. Number One, just as a representative of the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans, our hearts go out to the people of

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Speaker 1: El Paso and obviously the people of Dayton. It's a

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Speaker 1: horrible event, events that happened, and you know, we just,

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Speaker 1: uh we feel terrible about it, and uh, we just

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Speaker 1: want to express our condolences to both those cities. And

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Speaker 1: then also I just want to mention sending our condolences

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Speaker 1: to Don Banks's family. You know, Don Banks was somebody

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Speaker 1: that I got to know as a head coach here

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Speaker 1: You know, it was a very trustworthy guy, a guy

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Speaker 1: that you could really sit down and talk to. He

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Speaker 1: to the Banks family. So I just want to say

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Speaker 1: that to start off, Johnny. Of course, our condolences to

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Speaker 1: just can't say enough about how horrible that is and

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Speaker 1: how much everyone needs our support. And we're going to

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Speaker 1: support the affiliates by the way TV and radio in

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Speaker 1: al Paso with their efforts to help do whatever they

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Speaker 1: And Don Banks, I know you knew him. I knew him,

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Speaker 1: and that's pretty shocking. Fifty six years old and he

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Speaker 1: just got a new stadium, Allegiant named the Stadium Allegiant

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Speaker 1: thirty year least. They just announced that today, So congratulations

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Speaker 1: it's well, I guess they already have that branding taking. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it would be cool for them, you would. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: when you look at the list of shootings, the numbers

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Speaker 1: it's hard. It's hard to deal with. It's really hard

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Speaker 1: let's just hope of the very best here. I know,

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Speaker 1: whatever that would take. Okay, here's Bill O'Brien on the

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Speaker 1: John mcclaim what about Deante Foreman and what happened. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think anytime, John, you're just trying to

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Speaker 1: O'Brien was also asked about how the backs look today,

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Speaker 1: and Johnny didn't really say much about that. But let's

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Speaker 1: So tell me how do the backs look today? Higg

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest, Mark, I watched a little bit more

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Speaker 1: when we saw them on Thursday and on Saturday, the

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Speaker 1: He was claimed on waivers, so be it. It happens. Look,

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Speaker 1: that Lamar Miller is still here. He's good. He's still here.

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Speaker 1: And I watched good today. I thought he did. There

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Speaker 1: run the play that Lamar ran uh the ninety seven

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Speaker 1: a rat it's a rat play. It's a it's a

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Speaker 1: It was one of the biggest collisions. Lamar darts inside,

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Speaker 1: Lamar Miller I love. That's the one I love to see. Well,

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Speaker 1: see on this play? And he'll let you know. I

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Speaker 1: mean This is the type of experience and invaluable experience

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Speaker 1: that you just can't get anywhere. So having these next

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Speaker 1: three days to go out here and be able to

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Speaker 1: compete against the best of the best, man, is awesome feeling.

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Speaker 1: How'd you feel the secondary did overall? The number of

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Speaker 1: times and my eyes, we're going back and forth. I

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Speaker 1: didn't see everything, but I looked over that. I saw

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Speaker 1: a lot of incompletions. I didn't hear a lot of

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Speaker 1: cheering a lot of times, but you know, twelve's gonna

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Speaker 1: get hit sometimes. But how did you feel overall about

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Speaker 1: the secondary collector that I think that you know, we

436
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Speaker 1: came out here. The energy was there, and that's one thing,

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Speaker 1: the energy in the effort, and those are two things

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Speaker 1: the football player. As a football coach that you always preach.

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Speaker 1: Those are two things that you just can't coach. You

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Speaker 1: can't coach effort. And I think that the guys came

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Speaker 1: out there. Man, we had a lot of effort. Obviously

442
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Speaker 1: going against the guy like Aaron Rodgers. He have good

443
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Speaker 1: receivers out here, seventeen Adams. He's a top tier receiver.

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Speaker 1: So anytime you have that type of things, tight ends

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Speaker 1: like Jimmy Graham and Mercedes Lords. Those guys are going

446
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Speaker 1: to compete passes. Those guys are some of the best

447
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Speaker 1: of the best. But when you look back on him, man,

448
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Speaker 1: I think that we came out here, we did what

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Speaker 1: we wanted to do. Obviously it's not perfectly. Want to

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Speaker 1: learn from it, get better. Obviously we got to watch

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Speaker 1: the tape, but like you said, it wasn't that much chance,

452
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Speaker 1: so that kind of lets you know the direction that

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Speaker 1: was going. But obviously, whatever we go on tape, you

454
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Speaker 1: always it's always things that you can learn from and

455
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Speaker 1: get better because nothing is perfect, all right, I spuit

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Speaker 1: a little word association. See how fast we can do this.

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins great, Aaron Covin smooth, Jonathan Joseph og vet

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Speaker 1: the Shawn Watson calm, swaggy, swaggy swaggy. I like it.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, gope, Glade Adams electric. I think that'll do it. Man.

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Speaker 1: It's four yards with Sean Gibson, Sean, thank you man.

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Speaker 1: I'll position m John Harris with to Sean Gibson. Now

462
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Speaker 1: let's move right ahead to the running back position the

463
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Speaker 1: topic to jure the backup to Lamar Miller who's going

464
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Speaker 1: to get the gig? Will it be buy committee? Will see.

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Speaker 1: But a player who has a little experience in this

466
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Speaker 1: league is Josh Ferguson. I visited with him and asked

467
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Speaker 1: him how it was going. It's going well. It's been

468
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Speaker 1: a grind, a lot of competition at the running back position,

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Speaker 1: but that's part of the game. It's part of the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and it's been been a pleasure to be behind Lamar

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Speaker 1: and compete with everybody else and learning from each other

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Speaker 1: and getting better together. Now, what about learning this offense

473
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Speaker 1: for you overall? I know it's been a process, and

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Speaker 1: how's it going that part of it? Yeah, it's definitely

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Speaker 1: difficult at first, but things are starting to click. The

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Speaker 1: way coach likes the call plays, it's starting to make sense.

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Speaker 1: And as you get to understand the flow of the

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Speaker 1: play calling the execution, it's a lot easier. Or so

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Speaker 1: it's been an upward protructor how difficult digit to pick

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Speaker 1: up pass protection as a running back? It's definitely difficult

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Speaker 1: to task. Requires a lot of film study to see

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Speaker 1: how guys like to rush, because each guy has different

483
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Speaker 1: types of approaches. But once you get that down and

484
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Speaker 1: learn the basic techniques of staying inside out and not

485
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Speaker 1: letting a guy across your face up comes a lot easier.

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Speaker 1: What about running against the screen Bay defense today? How'd

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Speaker 1: that go for you? Good? They got a definitely got

488
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Speaker 1: a stout defense. Fun of the mentally sound, definitely hold

489
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Speaker 1: their guys very well. Linebackers pursue well. So it was

490
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Speaker 1: good to get out here and play against someone different

491
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Speaker 1: than the Houston Texans and see how we match up

492
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Speaker 1: the difference. But the breeze was cool instead of you know,

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Speaker 1: that high human breeze is getting Houston. So it's a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Have you gotten to know the city of Houston at all?

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Speaker 1: A little bit? I guess some families up in a

496
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Speaker 1: few times prior to moving out here, but not too much.

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Speaker 1: Oppously here at the door. What are your expectations in

498
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Speaker 1: the preseason game coming up Thursday the opener? I just

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Speaker 1: expect myself to go out there and play hard from

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Speaker 1: my best beford thanks at Josh Absolute. Josh Ferguson one

501
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Speaker 1: of the many running backs you'll see on Thursday night,

502
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Speaker 1: vying for playing time in the regular season at the

503
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Speaker 1: number two spot. We'll see out all shakes out of

504
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Speaker 1: next Thursday night's game extra interesting and again it will

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Speaker 1: kick at seven o'clock on ABC thirteen. You can stream

506
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Speaker 1: the game live on the app. You can listen to

507
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Speaker 1: it right here. So many ways to ingest Texans football.

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Speaker 1: Next up, we'll hear from the general John McClean. We've

509
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Speaker 1: visited with him this morning. A little McClean reloaded for you,

510
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Speaker 1: and also the running back position. We broke it down

511
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Speaker 1: last week. We're at quarterbacks today, so let's hear what

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Speaker 1: John Harris has to say about Deshaun Watson and company.

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Speaker 1: That's all coming out By'm Texans Radio. Busy Busy Monday.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back at it at Lambeau tomorrow morning eight

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Speaker 1: to ten am. But right now, let's get a little

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Speaker 1: general reloaded here. As we had John McClean on this

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Speaker 1: morning and we talked to him about the situation of

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Speaker 1: running back, but also the situation. McLean's covered the league

519
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Speaker 1: so long, dozens and dozens of years, and where does

520
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Speaker 1: this stand up for him, this experience of being in

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Speaker 1: the shadow of Lambeau Field. John Harris started us off. John,

522
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Speaker 1: We're on the level of all the stadiums that you've

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Speaker 1: been through, all the places that you go, Where does

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Speaker 1: this one rank for you to go visit number one

525
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Speaker 1: because it's the cathedral of football and fans. Like I

526
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: was walking up here and maybe this happened to you.

527
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Speaker 1: I was walking down the street from the media lot

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Speaker 1: on the other side of the Don Hudson Center across

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Speaker 1: in the parking lot for lambeau and the fans were

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Speaker 1: lined up, and I have my Texans media pass, and

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Speaker 1: a bunch of them kept saying, welcome to green Bay,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to green Bay. The fans year the most knowledgeable,

533
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Speaker 1: they are the day are the greatest, and they are

534
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Speaker 1: just the friendliest ever. I tell everybody, if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: do two things as football fan NFL fan, go to

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Speaker 1: lambeau Field, preferably in the winter, not at times like

537
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Speaker 1: this because the weather's too nice and you don't get

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Speaker 1: the full effect. Two nice, but like when we were

539
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Speaker 1: here for the Texans and Packers and what was sixteen, Yeah,

540
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: and it was December and it snowed. It was not

541
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Speaker 1: a bad wind, it just snow came down like a

542
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Speaker 1: winter wonderland. That's the way it's supposed to be. And

543
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Speaker 1: then I'll tell him go to Canton, and to Canton,

544
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Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. Those are the two greatest

545
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Speaker 1: things in pro football to me. I'm excited to see

546
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Speaker 1: the Packer Hall of Fame later, which will be awesome.

547
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Speaker 1: We'll be broadcasting from in it or near it, so

548
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Speaker 1: that'll be cool. It's just such a terrific place. And

549
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Speaker 1: you mentioned Canton, and I know all the ceremonies took

550
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Speaker 1: place over the weekend, but here you have a live

551
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: NFL team playing to go along with all the history,

552
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 1: and it's one hundred years old and it's just terrific.

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Speaker 1: John running back situation. I know you were on. In fact,

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Speaker 1: you heard it in the promo. John McClain was on

555
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Speaker 1: sports Radio six ten yesterday giving us thoughts on the situation.

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Speaker 1: But let's go over it as it was a bit

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Speaker 1: of a surprise Deonte Foreman released by the team. We

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Speaker 1: all had a lot of hopes that he would be

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Speaker 1: able to contribute, and I think the ceiling we all

560
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Speaker 1: agree was pretty high for him here, but obviously that's

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Speaker 1: not going to happen. Your thoughts. When I found that out,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't that surprise because I've been hearing from people

563
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Speaker 1: that he came back in really good shape, but he

564
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: wasn't getting with the program on special teams, and Deonte

565
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: was always last or next, the last guy on the field.

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Speaker 1: He's been late a lot, and when they were hoping

567
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Speaker 1: he'd come back after the injuries. Third year kind of

568
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Speaker 1: make or break and grow up, get serious about football.

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Speaker 1: And every time, going back to when I asco Brian,

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Speaker 1: I think it was nine days ago about talking about

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Speaker 1: the running backs behind the first two, and he said,

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Speaker 1: who were the first two? And I told him he

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Speaker 1: goes Miller. The backup job is wide open. And every

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Speaker 1: time he's talked about the backup running back, since it's

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Speaker 1: all about special teams, they have to contribute on special

576
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Speaker 1: teams and he did not forming one time. And we

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Speaker 1: all know Deonte didn't like playing special teams and wasn't

578
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Speaker 1: good at it, and so he wasn't any one particular

579
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: reason is they just saw more of the same and

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00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: they did him a favor, really and it gives them

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Speaker 1: more time. But coming up, because he's got time to

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Speaker 1: go try out for another other teams and hopefully it's

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Speaker 1: a wake up call for Deonte. He's a good guy.

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Speaker 1: He's not a bad guy. Everybody likes him. It's his

585
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Speaker 1: third year in the league. He just got to be serious.

586
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Speaker 1: You can't miss reab when you're rehabbing, you can't be

587
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Speaker 1: late to meetings and get packed. And so hopefully when

588
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Speaker 1: he goes with another team, that'll all be behind him

589
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: and he'll go in all gunga hole off the field

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00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: as well as on the field. And now they have

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Speaker 1: all these backup running backs who are going to get

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Speaker 1: a lot of time in the next two practices and

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Speaker 1: in the game Thursday night, because I'm doubting Lamar Miller

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Speaker 1: is going to play, and they know what Lamar can do,

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Speaker 1: they don't need to see him. Yeah, absolutely, they're gonna

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00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: use him a ton during the year. That makes the

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00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: question that Mark asked me John a little while ago,

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Speaker 1: is the number two, number two running back? I mean,

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Speaker 1: Lamar's clearly the number one, So yes, is the number

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Speaker 1: two running back on this roster? Or are they gonna

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Speaker 1: go out and find one. I know you tweeted out

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Speaker 1: about Melvin Gordon that that just don't worry about it.

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Speaker 1: Don't come at me with this hashtag not coming. Is

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Speaker 1: the number two running back on this roster? That d

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Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon could be somebody else, But might they bring

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Speaker 1: somebody into be the number two guys. Yeah, if you

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00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: think about the guys on this team. Who was number

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Speaker 1: two last year, Alfred Blood, Alfred Gaine four hundred some

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Speaker 1: yards three point five yards of carry cop passes, but

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Speaker 1: he was really good on special teams. When Lamar Miller

611
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,239
Speaker 1: needs a breather or he gets hurt, he missed two

612
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: and a half games last year, they gotta have somebody

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Speaker 1: capable of stepping up as a runner, as a receiver,

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Speaker 1: and as a pass protector. That is so important, and

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Speaker 1: Miller's great at that. People wonder why the world do

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Speaker 1: they have Lamar Miller he's not a great runner. Well,

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Speaker 1: he does other things. And in the NFL today it's

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00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: all about the passing game, not the running attack. So

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Speaker 1: I think the other could be we don't know. Now

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Speaker 1: that Bill's in charge, would he be more likely to

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Speaker 1: trade draft choices or is he gonna wait till somebody

622
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: gets cut. If you guys know this, the position has

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Speaker 1: been devalued. You can find running backs. The key is

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Speaker 1: finding a guy who's gonna fit what you want. And

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Speaker 1: remember this, O'Brien constantly talks about the team concept being

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Speaker 1: a good teammate. Clint Sturner that had a tweet that

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Speaker 1: I read tweeted about it's not hard to ask a

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Speaker 1: player to be on time to do all the things

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Speaker 1: you need behind the scenes. So I think they'll we're

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Speaker 1: gonna see guys get tried out, and I think if

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Speaker 1: somebody gets cut, they like, you know, Matt Basigan and

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Speaker 1: his staff or Rod Kissel, the pro personnel director, they

633
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: got less at every position, and the first gap becomes available,

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Speaker 1: they like, they're gonna be all over him. Well, a

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Speaker 1: lot of people are saying, now, why not get somebody

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Speaker 1: in the off season, let's go retroactive here? Did you

637
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: see these things coming with Foreman? And I got to

638
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: go back to Bill O'Brien saying positive things about the

639
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: Ante in the off season throughout the OTA period because

640
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: it looked like things were trending in the right direction.

641
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: But that doesn't clearly doesn't mean they're going to go

642
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: on forever. Something changed, It just didn't take. It wasn't happening,

643
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: and they had to make the move. And that's why

644
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: they didn't get aggressive in free agency with a bag

645
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: or draft somebody high. Even though Johnny you pointed out, hey,

646
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: who you're gonna draft? I mean, you had other needs

647
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: as well. So it makes it difficult. They didn't draft

648
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: anybody because foreman he was read the Riot Act Bo

649
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: Brian and his exit interview and totally, you better get

650
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: with the program. You better come back here in shape

651
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: because he never worked as hard as he should have

652
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: to be in shape, and you better be serious about football.

653
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: That includes on and off the field. So he did

654
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: all those workout videos he posted on Instagram. Amy showed him.

655
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: He was determined. He came back in shape and they

656
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: liked it, you know. O'Brien said good things about him,

657
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: so did his teammates. And he came back, but then

658
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: he reverted to his same old habits and so that's

659
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: why they were fired up about him. They wanted to

660
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: give him a chance. And and now he's gone. Some

661
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: of our conversation with John McClay this morning. Now, the

662
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: position group we broke down today, it's quarterbacks. Tomorrow it'll

663
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Speaker 1: be special teams. On Wednesday, it'll be every player on

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Speaker 1: the roster by John Harrison, rapid fire fashion. But today quarterbacks,

665
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Speaker 1: How did that go? Today's position group is the quarterbacks,

666
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Speaker 1: and it all starts with number four. And you can

667
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: use more than two sentences because there aren't that many

668
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: of these guys number four, DaShan, what's it? Well, I

669
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: think with Deshan, look we've we're lucky. I saw I

670
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: saw a tweet this morning from Joe Marino on the

671
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: Draft Network and they redrafted twenty seventeen and he said, sorry,

672
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: Chiefston Texans fans, you do not get the homes from

673
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: Watson that ten and twelve. Well you know, but we

674
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: did so going into year three. Look, we all in

675
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: Houston have hope. And you hear everybody say it. As

676
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: long as fours on the field, we have hope. As

677
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: long as fours on the field, we got a chance.

678
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: We can do anything with four on the field. And

679
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: so obviously health put that up on the shelf because

680
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: that's always going to be the most important aspect. But

681
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: I think for him on the field this year, the

682
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: biggest thing for him is how much quicker can he

683
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: make decisions? Can he make the decision almost even pre

684
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: snap that he knows what he's looking at, He knows

685
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: he sees too high, But he knows this team and

686
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: he's like, I know they're gonna transform to middle field,

687
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: close single high. I know what route I have. I

688
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: need to check us and get this out of this

689
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: because I know what they're gonna be in. I know

690
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: where I'm gonna go with the football. Bang bang bang,

691
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: throw it and let it go. And I think that's

692
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the biggest key. Can he make decisions quicker?

693
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: Can the game's slowed down for him, and then when

694
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: it does sold out for him, You're gonna see this

695
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: offense go to a whole different level as long as,

696
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: obviously the weapons around him are going to stay relatively healthy.

697
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll get sixteen games from everybody,

698
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: but if you've got if you've got Hopkins and Fuller

699
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: and qt in the tight ends relatively healthy week after week.

700
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: So he doesn't go into a game against the Colts,

701
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: They've got a pretty fast defense, and he's got no

702
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: twitch on the field. He's got a hobby, he's got

703
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: the Mary As Thomas, he's got Joe Webb. He's got

704
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: no twitch. Yeah, and that wasn't gonna help him. He

705
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: had to get rid of the ball quickly and he

706
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: had nobody like you twitch. Yeah, he needs so if

707
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: he can make decisions quicker, and I think he started

708
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: doing that over the second half of the year, that's

709
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Speaker 1: what I think, you know, he threw some interceptions early on,

710
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 1: and he had some questionable decisions early on. I mean

711
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: the Tennessee game, people talk about, you know, seventeen seconds left,

712
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: we don't even get a field goal, tip all that.

713
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: But he he transformed himself so quickly and then maintained

714
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: that level throughout the year. And really the only interceptions

715
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: that he threw the rest of the year were ones

716
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: where he got hit or the ball is tipped. I

717
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: don't remember him throwing interceptions other than I think the

718
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: one in the playoff game maybe Kenny Moore when it

719
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: was fourth down, You're trying to get something and more

720
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: came out. That was about it. So from that perspective,

721
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: if he can maintain that that decision making level, that

722
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: high level decision making, this offense is going to be

723
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: able to do what it wants. Yeah. I think very

724
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: often when there's a sack or things don't develop quickly,

725
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: he is trying to hold onto the ball and make

726
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: a play and run around and make a play. And

727
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: I think the coaches love that, but they also want

728
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: him to curtail that, want him to edit, want him

729
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: to be very careful about preserving his body and live

730
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: to fight another town. There's nothing wrong with punting. I mean,

731
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 1: not late in the game, but every once in a while, Hey,

732
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 1: just just take him medicine. Just just throw it away

733
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: and move on to the next play, whatever that play

734
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 1: might be, as opposed to take it a sack, getting hurt,

735
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: drawing a pick, whatever. And he I just love his

736
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: ability to scramble and make plays, you know, And so

737
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: you get addicted to that sometimes as a viewer. And

738
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: maybe I don't think the coaches do. The coaches know

739
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: what needs to be called, but his ability if the

740
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: if the call's not going to work, to make something

741
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: positive happen is unquestionably supreme. His late game gotta have it,

742
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: gotta win the game drive. When you look at the

743
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: amount of game winning drives, game tying drives that he has,

744
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: very impressive for a young quarterback. Everyone gets so intoxicated

745
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: with Mahomes and I get it. My gosh, it's ridiculous

746
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: what Mahomes has been able to do in one year

747
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: as a starter. That should not take anything away from

748
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: what Watson's been able to do. And let's let this

749
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: play out. These guys are gonna be going for a

750
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: long time. It's gonna be fun to watch. Well, the

751
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: plays that he's been able to make thus far in

752
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: his career in the late third quarter or fourth quarter

753
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: of games. I mean, the opportunity for the Watson to

754
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: make plays in the fourth quarter has been just incredible.

755
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: So he's been as good as you could possibly ask for.

756
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: Like Mahomes has not had his situation where he's had

757
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: to bring his team from behind. So from that perspective,

758
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: he's He's a guy that I think. Watson has proven

759
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: himself in the in the fourth quarter, So he's a

760
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: guy that I want to continue to see do things

761
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Mahomes hasn't done that in the

762
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: fourth quarters. Mahomes brought the Chiefs back in any game

763
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. The Ravens game is the only

764
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: one I could think about, but didn't he gets the Patriots,

765
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: they score, they lose it overtime. What about the one

766
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: half the Patriots that was forty three to forty I

767
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: can't remember all the details. Look, I think Mahomes it'll

768
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: be fine, but I don't know. But let's just see.

769
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: Let's see how this thing plays out. He can't wait

770
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: for what is it October fifteenth at thirteenth, thirty October

771
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: Arrowhead Stadium. It's gonna be awesome next quarterback up. As

772
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: we're doing the position group breakdown, AJ McCarron. Team signs

773
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: him in the offseason. No Brandon Wheaton as a backup

774
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 1: this year. I've said this before before he gets all

775
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: the technical stuff. I love the hunger he wants to play,

776
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: he wants to have. Look, it's not like Brandon Wheaton

777
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,280
Speaker 1: didn't want to have a career. But AJ mccare aaron

778
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: still probably has it in his mind that he can

779
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: be a starter somewhere and I like that. You know,

780
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 1: he's not rooting for any opportunity here in the regular season.

781
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: Anything bad to happen to Watson. But for AJ McCarron,

782
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: these next couple of games are these next four games

783
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,959
Speaker 1: are huge. He wants to make a great impression so

784
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: that if the opportunity arises, he can potentially be a

785
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: starter somewhere else. And I love that, and I like

786
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: what he's done so far in his career. He just

787
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to stay on the field. Yeah, and

788
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: that's the thing. Look, all three of these quarterbacks have

789
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: started a playoff game. Think about a three included. Joe

790
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: Webb started actually right over there, right on the other

791
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: side of this stream. My god, yeah, against the package

792
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: he played. He started the playoff. That's making the broadcast. Yeah,

793
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: so Joe Webb and AJ McCarron and Shaw Watson all

794
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: started a playoff. I think the weather is slightly better here.

795
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: Oh wait were they They weren't at home and outdoor?

796
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: That was here? That was here, I remember correctly, or

797
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: were they in that frozen tundra of Minneapoli for the

798
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: University of Minnesota State that was That was far last

799
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: couple of years. Now, that one that one game Fridge

800
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: Fridgide game was Teddy Bridgewater A Bridgewater ended up getting hurt.

801
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 1: Uh if I remember that was twenty fifteen. Oh gosh,

802
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 1: that was brutal. Anyways, with McCarron, heat to me, and look,

803
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: I watched him coming out of Alabama. I saw him

804
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: live at Alabama, and I thought he's a really good

805
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: college quarterback. That was like, but he just you know, assets, traits,

806
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: those are things that he doesn't didn't really have. But

807
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: his arm strength I think is really improved. Like I

808
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: see him make throws out on the field and look,

809
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: it's not it's not Deshawn's arm strength, but it's pretty

810
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: darn good. Like you don't see a huge drop off.

811
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: So if you had, if you unfortunately had to go

812
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: into a game with AJ, or something happened for a

813
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: drive that DeShawn had to get checked out, you could

814
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: put AJ in the game, and I think you would

815
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about him getting rid of the football,

816
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: getting the off, getting off, it's in the right play,

817
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: get everybody lined up, getting ready to go, delivering football

818
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: on time. You can always rely on number ten it,

819
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: but every quarterback is done when they've stepped in for

820
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: the Texans. Hey new quarterback, what are you gonna do?

821
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: Throw to Hopkins? Okay, well you still got Fuller and

822
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: you got QT so he's got he's got options, which

823
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: is kind of nice. So I think if he had

824
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: to step in, I'm not gonna lose too much sleep. Obviously,

825
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: you don't lose de Seawan for a long amount of time,

826
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: And I don't want to see mccarreen at all in

827
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: the game, But if it happened, I think we'd be

828
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: much better set up than maybe any other time that

829
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: I can remember her having a backup quarterback, maybe dating

830
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 1: back to Sage Rosenfels. Rosenfels and the word get out

831
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: over the weekend. Where where did this develop that he's

832
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: the greatest preseason quarterback in NFL history or something like that.

833
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: Who says, yes, I mean mister August. Look I like Sage,

834
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: you know this and that might be true. I mean,

835
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 1: he's mister August. They didn't call him that. I am.

836
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: But you know, when you're a backup quarterback, that's what

837
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: you got. You know, you want to play a long time. Yeah,

838
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: John Harris breaking down the quarterback position. I waited on

839
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: some of that tomorrow morning special teamers, and that's we

840
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: importante in these preseason games. That's gonna do it from

841
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: Green Bay for tonight. Don't forget tomorrow. We'll be on

842
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: eight to ten AM and Clinton Kamela will have the

843
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: afternoon show for you two to six from lambeau Field.

844
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Speaker 1: It's all happening right here. Have a great night, everyone

845
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: and co Texans