1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntire. 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 2: What is up, Straight Fire. 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 3: It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Lawyer for Tuesday, February the seventeenth. 4 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 3: Hope everybody had a long, outstanding President's Weekend. I took 5 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 3: a couple of days off work because that's what you 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 3: do sometimes at the end of a long football season. 7 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 3: No vacation or anything, just a little reset. 8 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: It's reading. You know, kids. 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 3: Sports played in the media. Hiccup All Star Game weekend run. 10 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 3: Oh that was fantastic. We'll talk about that. How about 11 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 3: the NBA All Star Game ratings? Oh monster number for 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: the NBA All Starting But I don't know if you 13 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: went on social media, everybody was just bashing All Star weekend. 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: It is terrible All Star Game as a joke. 15 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: Oh wait, eight million people watch almost nine million people 16 00:00:58,720 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 3: for an All Star game. 17 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: That's a big number. 18 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 3: But I do want to actually start with the NFL briefly, 19 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 3: because there was such a seismic move on Monday, kind 20 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: of came out of nowhere, and that the Miami Dolphins 21 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 3: decided we're done with Tyreek Hill. Now, everybody knew that 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 3: Hill was probably going to be toasting Miami anyway, it 23 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: didn't go well with McDaniel, then they fired McDaniel. Tyreek 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 3: suffered the big acl slash dislocated knee. He probably won't 25 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 3: even be healthy until Halloween. Somebody were thinking it could 26 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 3: have been career ending. Well, the Dolphins decided to cut him, 27 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: as well as three other players, in an effort to 28 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 3: save wait for it, twenty six million dollars as much 29 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: as possibly thirty million dollars next season. That sound you 30 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: here is the tank crawling through the streets of Miami. 31 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: Folks. 32 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,559 Speaker 3: It's very obvious to me the next shoot to drop 33 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: will be to a tongue of I looa. It sounds 34 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: like they're probably going to try to trade him, see 35 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 3: if there's a taker, and if not, he'll be gone 36 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: before June and they will save even more money. And folks, 37 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: this is very clear. The Miami Dolphins have seen next 38 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: year's quarterback class. And every year we do this, Oh, 39 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 3: it's loaded, it's sacked, and some usually it kind of 40 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 3: trickles down and it's not that great. Next year looks 41 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: like the year could be as many as seven really 42 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 3: good prospects and by the end maybe we land with three. 43 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: But whatever. 44 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: And you know, some guys are gonna come out of 45 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 3: nowhere and absolutely cook. Oh, by the way, this time 46 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: last year, Fernando Mendoza was not anybody's number one. Two 47 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 3: years ago, cam Ward was not anybody's number one. He 48 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 3: was at Washington State. So somebody, a player or two, 49 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 3: is gonna come out of nowhere and look like a real, big, 50 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: potential NFL quarterback. And I do believe the Dolphins look 51 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: across the division at my New York Jets and say, 52 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 3: those guys stink. They made zero effort. At the end 53 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 3: of the season, they started trading players. Quinnon Williams has gone, 54 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: Sauce Gardner's gone, They've got a lot of picks. Maybe 55 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 3: we should start to take a year early. And Miami's 56 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 3: kind of started that at the end of last season, 57 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 3: benching Tua once they were a little different plaoff contention 58 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: for Quinn. 59 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: Youewers. 60 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: Now you got the new GM who's already just taking 61 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 3: a hatchet to the roster. You got the new head 62 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 3: coach saying, well, well, I don't know who's gonna be 63 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: our starter, and maybe Quinn maybe two, who knows. It's 64 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: very clear the Miami Dolphins are are starting the tank early. 65 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 3: They're not making the playoffs. 66 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: Come on them. 67 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 3: The Patriots just rode the easiest schedule this century to 68 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: a Super Bowl trip. Okay, they got Drake May on 69 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: the rookie deal. They're gonna be making moves in this offseason. 70 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: And Josh Allen is still breathing in Buffalo despite them 71 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 3: firing the head coach. Joe Burrow's coming back. Lamar Jackson's 72 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 3: gonna bounce back despite the new head coach. The Kansas 73 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: City Chiefs, I don't think you're gonna keep them down forever. 74 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: The Chargers, you know they're gonna get healthy. The Broncos 75 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: bon Nix is gonna be fine. Hell, Rob G's Raiders 76 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: is bringing in Fernando Mendoza. AFC's loaded. AFC is absolutely stacked. 77 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 3: I didn't even mention the Texans are not going anywhere. 78 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: I think the Jaguars have a lot of promise under 79 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 3: Liam Cohen and Trevor Lawrence. So if you're Miami, you 80 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 3: look around the landscape and say, what are we doing? 81 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: Try to make a push. Now, let's clear out the books, 82 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 3: let's bottom out, and maybe you win two three games and. 83 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: Let's have a top five pick. 84 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: I think this makes total sense, and as of now 85 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: and again we haven't e hit to hit the combine, folks, 86 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: it's very clear the two worst teams will be the 87 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: Jets and the Dolphins. They happen to play in the 88 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: same division. And I can't identify anyone yet in the 89 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 3: NFC who looks like they're going to be totally hot garbage. 90 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: We'll see what happens with Kyler Murray in Arizona. They 91 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: do have a lot of talent on offense. I guess 92 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: the Cleveland Frowns would be the other one, and I 93 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: would keep an eye on the Pittsburgh Steelers, Rob. I 94 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 3: know people aren't going to say that they're not going 95 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 3: to tank, obviously they've made that clear through the media 96 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: what they're saying. But remember actions over words and the actions. 97 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 3: If they don't go after Aaron Rodgers and they don't 98 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 3: try to make a big splash in drafting a quarterback 99 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 3: in the first round or free agency, I think it's 100 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,559 Speaker 3: pretty clear. Hey, guys, Will Howard, let's let TJ. Watt 101 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: and company age out and let's start over next year. 102 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: So that wouldn't shock me. I know, Steelers chance don't 103 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: want to hear that, But Rob, Dolphins pretty clear. 104 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: Tank job to you, absolutely, and kudos to them to 105 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: be kind honest with you. I know this is like 106 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: a big talking point the last what a week or 107 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: so as in regards to the NBA, Like, hey, tanking 108 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: is running muck. Tanking is a big problem. Adam so 109 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: worried about the tanking. There are certain instances where it 110 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: makes one thousand percent sense for you to tank. It 111 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: made sense for the Utah Jazz to tank when you 112 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: consider that their pick was top eight protected going to OKC. 113 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 2: So it's like, hey, we are absolutely not going to 114 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: lose that pick. We gotta do whatever we can to lose. 115 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 2: The Miami Dolphins have determined, and as Stuteley, if I 116 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 2: might say this for myself, that their roster is not 117 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 2: good enough to compete at all by any way, shape 118 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: or form, even in the AFC East where it's a 119 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: Josh Allen and the Buffalo Friends New England and a 120 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: soft schedule and the Getropolitan Like even they determined then 121 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 2: we do not have enough to compete. So what are 122 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 2: they doing. They're getting rid of all of their best players. 123 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: I know Tyree's coming out of injury, but save for 124 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: what Jalen Waddle and Devon a chan like, can you 125 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: name three other Miami Dolphin players that are left a question? Right? 126 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 2: I'm just throwing it out there right now. Their offensive 127 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: line's that good, like, they don't have very much. Their 128 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: secondary was notoriously bad last season, horrific, and so they've decided, 129 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 2: you know what, we're gonna get started on the March 130 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: for Arch now. And we were talking about this a 131 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: year ago, me and you, like, I was saying, hey, 132 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: I was all in on arch maning after the Archman. 133 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: It was gonna be slam dunk hands down the number 134 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: one pick in this twenty twenty six NFL draft. And 135 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 2: I still maintained that had he come out, he probably 136 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 2: would have went number one because he has the size 137 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: and the measurables that you just cannot teach, and he 138 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: has the bloodline that everybody's gonna google over when it 139 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 2: comes from the Manning Tree. So if you are the 140 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins and you look at your quarterback situation and 141 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: you say, hey, toua. Last year, before he got bench 142 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: led the NFL in picks, he was only averaging one 143 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 2: hundred ninety passing yards per game. If fused this rookie season, 144 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 2: he had been sacked thirty times up until that point. 145 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: Then you say, hey, we've missed at the quarterback, the 146 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: quarterback's most part position. I'm still a to of guy, 147 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 2: but they determined he's not the guy. We look at 148 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: our cap number. It's gonna cost us ninety nine million 149 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: dollars in dead money if we cut him now, or 150 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: we can split it amongst two cap seasons if we 151 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: wait till June. First, if I'm Miami and you're already 152 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: purging the roster of Bradley Chubb, Tyreek Hill, Westbrook and Kinaho, 153 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: actually like I may get a good number three receiver somewhere. 154 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: I take the nine nine million dollar cap it now 155 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: screw it like I'm bottoming out as fast as possible, 156 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: because the last thing that you want to have happen 157 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: is a team like you mentioned the Pittsburgh Steelers, who 158 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: I think we agree are kind of average to mediocre 159 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: type of roster, Like they are top heavy, but old 160 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: top heavy, which is not where you want to be. 161 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: Where you could see a situation absolutely just like last year, 162 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: win ten games right and be right there in the 163 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: smack of the wildcard race, which you don't want to happen. 164 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: Is a team like that to have a slew of 165 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: injuries or in this case, Will Howard is just terrible, 166 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: and they bottom out to the bottom of the draft. 167 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: They get the number one pick and you bring in 168 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: Arch Manning or whoever with a team with a couple 169 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: of very good, even if past their prime veterans, because 170 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: that's exactly what New England did. They did it through 171 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: free agency, but they had a young quarterback, veteran guys 172 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: all throughout the roster that are still good for now, 173 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 2: maybe next year, we'll see after that, and then they're 174 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: suddenly in contention. So if you are Miami, you're like, hey, 175 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: our team sucks, our roster sucks. Let's bottom out as 176 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: quickly as possible. Play all the young guys as much 177 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: as possible so that when we come into twenty twenty seven, 178 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 2: we come in with the number one quarterback and we 179 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 2: know which of these young guys is going to be 180 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 2: part of the rebuilding process. Yeah. I don't hate it. 181 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: I mean, the only reason I really dislike it is 182 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: because it undercuts what my Jets are trying to do. 183 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 3: And frankly, it's funny. We talk about Arch banding all 184 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 3: last offseason. He flops against Ohio State. He's not very 185 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 3: good for half the season, and he quietly finished strong. 186 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: And I mean it's not Fernando Bindz is strong, but 187 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 3: his measurables are better. He's faster, he's got the lineage. 188 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: Obviously. 189 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 3: I like Mendoz a lot, rob I will say before 190 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 3: we transition to hoops. So you know, I sometimes when 191 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: I go to the gym five to go in the afternoon, 192 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: there's pick up runs happening. I don't really plan them anymore, 193 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: but I just walk in to chat it up with 194 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 3: the guys. And this guy I didn't know he was 195 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 3: a Raiders fan, and he's like, yeah, J Mack, I 196 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 3: can't believe you guys love Mendoza. I'm a Raiders fan 197 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: for thirty plus years. I don't want us to draft him. 198 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 3: I was like, what are you talking? 199 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: What do you did? You not watch him this season? 200 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 2: Like how could you not like him? They're like, oh, 201 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 2: I want I want Lamar Jackson. I was like, how's 202 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: that gonna happen? I was like, well, what. 203 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 3: Are you just gonna make Lamar Jackson happen? He wants 204 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 3: more money, And so the logic is these Raider fans think, well, 205 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: Mendoza's not gonna make us compete. 206 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: Lamar could get us to compete. 207 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 3: And so they're like, give up the one, We'll give 208 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: up something else, whatever else they want. We'll give tossin 209 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: Max Crosby the one, next year's one, and let's get 210 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson. I was like, I actually thought about that. 211 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, if I'm the Ravens, I would do that. 212 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 3: If I could get multiple ones in Max Crosby for 213 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: Lamar's I would do that because Lamar a now you 214 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 3: guys read about this, he wants to restructure his deal. 215 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 3: But if I'm the Raiders, is Lamar who brock Bowers? 216 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 3: I don't know that they have a number one receiver, 217 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 3: Like what do we Is that doing anything in the 218 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: AFC West? Are you getting out of the basins? So 219 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: I didn't totally understand it, but a lot of people 220 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: seem to think, well, Mendoza just had one good year. Meanwhile, 221 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 3: they didn't know he was starting at CAL, you know, 222 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 3: and he put up pretty good numbers at Cal. 223 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: But they just think he was kind of like, you know, 224 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: it's like the Indiana thing. 225 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: He's kind of nerdy, he's got a LinkedIn, he doesn't 226 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 3: have that like alpha quarterback, which is one of the 227 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 3: dumbest discussions I think ever, I'm just stunned at it. 228 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: As a Raiders center, Are you still locked on Mendoza? 229 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: Are you wobbly? Well, we've talked about this before. I've 230 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 2: never been a oh one thousand, all hands on deck Mendoza. 231 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: Not because I don't think he's good or that he 232 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 2: doesn't have potential, nothing like that. It's that if you 233 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: have the number one pick in the draft and you 234 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: are saying, I'm not even going to entertain anything else, 235 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: then that quarterback better be a slam dunk generational type 236 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: prospect where he has all the measurables that you're looking for. 237 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: And Fernando Mendoza, there's a reason why he went to 238 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: cal There's a reason why I went to Indiana. He 239 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: does not have all of those crazy measurables that you 240 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: will look for in a hands down number one pick. 241 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: I think that Albert Breers said this. I think Daniel 242 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: Jeremiah said that, like if this was two years ago, 243 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: he's probably the fourth quarterback. 244 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 245 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports radio 246 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 247 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: listen live. 248 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: So are you saying Fernando two years ago or current 249 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: for Nana Fernando if he was in the twenty was 250 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: that twenty four draft? Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, Drake May, 251 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 3: he's probably fourth. Well here, this is what's weird about that. 252 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: So if he were, and it's tough to do that, 253 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 3: we were actually said that that's that's a little wacky. 254 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: So here's the thing. 255 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 3: If he had won the national championship that year, By 256 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: the way, I don't even remember who won the Natty, 257 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 3: So it was Caleb at USC, Jaden at LSU, they 258 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 3: did not win it. Drake May did not at U, 259 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: and c oh it was JJ McCarthy at Michigan. 260 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: So if he had. 261 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: Done JJ McCarthy alone got drafted tenth and he didn't 262 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 3: even have numbers. I think he was a one year starter. 263 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 3: So you're telling me you don't think Mendoza if he 264 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 3: had done what he did in Indiana, beat Ohio State, 265 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 3: beat Alabama, and then who they oh they beat like 266 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 3: TCU or someone didn't they? 267 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: Oh do they do they beat Washington? 268 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 3: I think it was Washington and Michael Pennix because they 269 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 3: it was Washington, Yes, it was. So if he had 270 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 3: had that run, would he really have been taken behind 271 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 3: Jaden and Drake May I think so. 272 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 2: I think so because he doesn't have the the uber 273 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 2: measurables that these guys look for. Now, whether that's fair 274 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: or foul, that's a different conversation. Like you can talk 275 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: to the scouts or you can even talk to you know, 276 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremy, he's been on before and like how much 277 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 2: does on field production and just being a good player 278 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 2: factor in versus weight, speed, arm strength, whatever those kind 279 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 2: of things. And so with Fanano Mendoza, I think even 280 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 2: Collins said this on a show last week where he's like, hey, 281 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: the comp for him is Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan is 282 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 2: a very good NFL quarterback, or was a very good 283 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 2: FFL quarterback. 284 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 3: I think he went top five, right, I think he 285 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 3: went number three three, He went to a Super Bowl 286 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 3: wan An MVP. So you can absolutely one thousand percent 287 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 3: win at at a high clip with a Matt Ryan. 288 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 3: The difference is is that when you get to the 289 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: NFL and you're parsing between guys I think we've talked 290 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: about before, there's maybe three or four where you say, 291 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: no matter where I drop him, he's probably going to 292 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 3: be really good because he just has so much talent 293 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 3: that as long as we don't screw it up around him, 294 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 3: we should be damn good. And you know, it's like 295 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 3: Josh Allen is one of those guys. Patrick Mahomes is 296 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 3: one of those guys. Joe Burrow is one of those guys. 297 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 2: And then from there you kind of are like, well, 298 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 2: I'm a big Lamar Jackson fan, but would he fit 299 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: good in you know, a West Coast offense system. I 300 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: don't know. I'm not sure because that's why I haven't 301 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: seen him operate like that. You know, I've never been 302 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: a huge Trevor Lawrence guy, but like, there are certain 303 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: things that you look for when you're saying I'm not 304 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: even gonna consider anybody else at number one. That's how 305 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: talented this guy is. And Mendoza is not that level 306 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: of talent. That doesn't mean you can't win with them, 307 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: He's just not that kind of guy. But to your point, 308 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: to come full circle, if you make a trade like 309 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: that and you get Lamar Jackson for number one future 310 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 2: number one Max Crosby, whatever, then you're probably topping out 311 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: at like ten and seven because the roster is bad 312 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 2: with the Raiders, like, we don't have enough people. We 313 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: need more people out there. And Lamar Jackson, as great 314 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 2: as he is behind that offensive line, with that lack 315 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: of weaponry, you know, he could by himself maybe get 316 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: you nine or ten wins. But that's it. You're one 317 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: and down. You're getting smacked in the playoffs. 318 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 3: It's weird because you you mentioned Matt Ryan and I 319 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 3: forgot he won an MVP and then he went to 320 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 3: a super Bowl, and I'm like, okay, so Josh Allen 321 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 3: has an MVP, probably gonna win another. He hasn't been 322 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 3: to a super Bowl. Lamar Jackson's got two MVPs. He 323 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 3: hasn't been to a super Bowl. But some of this 324 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 3: stuff is circumstantial because then the counter is, well, Matt 325 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 3: Ryan had Kyle Shanahan as his OC and. 326 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: Julio Jones and a great offensive line, and. 327 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 3: Neither of those two Lamar or Josh has had anybody 328 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 3: close to Julio Jones. 329 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 2: Maybe early Stefan Diggs was kind of good, but I 330 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: mean it's not Hulio Jones. 331 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: Yeah right, But like then again, okay, hey, well Matt 332 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 3: Stafford went one to Detroit, had maybe the greatest receiver 333 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 3: of the last thirty years in Calvin Johnson. 334 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: And I don't did he win any playoff games at Detroit? 335 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 336 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: No, So like Stafford waited forever. I mean, it's so 337 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 3: tough to do that with these guys. I mean you 338 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: could argue yourself into a pretzel. Will how about this, 339 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 3: rob Will Caleb Williams get to a Super Bowl and 340 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: win an. 341 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: MVP in Chicago. Uh No, he will not, Okay, So 342 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: so like Matt Ryan. So then Matt Ryan had a 343 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: better career. It's really tough to do this. 344 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 3: I mean, bo Nicks, he was if he doesn't get 345 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 3: injured in that like second to last play of the 346 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 3: game on that on that Sean Payton rollout nonsense. 347 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 2: Do they beat the Patriots and go to the super Bowl? 348 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: I think they would have been favored, right, It's it's 349 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: I mean, justin Herbert doesn't have a playoff win, everybody 350 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 3: still thinks he's the man. 351 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: I saw. 352 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 3: I saw some some JABBRONI I don't know you follow 353 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 3: David Baker, the gambling guy who comes from he popped 354 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 3: this guy who had a quarterback list, and Baker's like, oh, 355 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 3: this is real accurate. And I know he did it 356 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 3: because he had bow Nicks high and he loves bo 357 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 3: Nicks because he went to Auburn and David's from there. 358 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 3: But this guy had Baker Mayfield is the sixth best 359 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 3: quarterback in the league right now. 360 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: I was like, what the hell are you talking about? 361 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 3: Brod The second half of the season not happen. What 362 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 3: so NFL quarterback It's fun, It's almost NBA like and 363 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 3: that you can just do it. It's circular and there's 364 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 3: really no winner really at the end of the day. 365 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 3: All right, let's pivot to basketball. So I did a 366 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: hype the media pickup game. I won't spend too much 367 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 3: time on it, although I could do an hour because 368 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 3: I'm a nerd. 369 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: So I get the text. 370 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 3: I don't know any of the text message to any 371 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 3: of the people on the text, and I drive to 372 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 3: this gated community this guy. I'm not going to get 373 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 3: into the guy's backstory, but I looked up the house 374 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 3: on Zillow and it's like, you know, twelve million dollar house, 375 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 3: I mean tennis courts, and then you walk through this 376 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: thing to the basketball court and you walk in and 377 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 3: I mean, it's like a regular gym, and then they 378 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 3: have Lakers jerseys framed, Lakers imitation banners from the titles framed. 379 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 3: It's like a Lakers court, purple and gold with all. 380 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 3: I mean, it's honestly incredible, like not takes your breath 381 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 3: away because that sounds so nerdy, but rob you walk 382 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 3: in and I'm like, oh shit, this is the big. 383 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: This is the best court I've ever played basketball on. 384 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: And you know, I'm nervous because I don't readily recognize people. 385 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 3: They're introducing themselves and some of them know me, Oh 386 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 3: I love your stuff, Jay, and I'm like, oh cool. 387 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 3: The only guy I knew real was Chris Haynes, Dave McManaman, 388 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 3: and then Law Murray who's at the Athletic. He's a 389 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 3: pretty solid player. Chris Haynes is a solid player as well. 390 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: There's a couple of guys, like some guy who worked 391 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 3: at Converse. 392 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 2: I think he's Asian. 393 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 3: He had like a ponytail, and he's wearing like sweatpants 394 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm always dubious of guys who hoop 395 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 3: in sweatpants. 396 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 2: This guy was freaking good. 397 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know where he played, but 398 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 3: he's just shifty, beautiful jumper. The best guy was this 399 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: like six to seven guy who not six seven the joke. 400 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 3: He's like six foot seven played I think Division two 401 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 3: and I guess he works with agents now and had 402 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 3: like some tryouts for the league like ten years ago. 403 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 3: I mean, he's pretty dominant. There was a prominent agent 404 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 3: or two. They didn't want me to make to their 405 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 3: names who were there, and they could hoop. 406 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: It was. It was great. 407 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 3: You know, I was a little nervous at the beginning. 408 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 3: I didn't want to start jacket shots instantly. But then 409 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 3: when I see how like Chris Haynes gets it and 410 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 3: he you know, he's not really passing and some of 411 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 3: these other guys, I'm like. 412 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:16,719 Speaker 2: I'll just start shooting. 413 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 3: I did have a game winning shot from three from 414 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 3: my corner. My shot bounces up rim rim off, and 415 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 3: then I was so I was pitched because it was 416 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 3: the first game and it was again, it was pretty heated. 417 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 3: There's a lot of foul calls, a little little trash talk, 418 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 3: but it was a lot of fun, good group and 419 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: you know, I like basketball, so I was I was 420 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 3: drained after it. And then the All Star So I 421 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 3: will say Rob All Star Weekend, first time ever. I 422 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 3: didn't watch a second of the dunk contest and I 423 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 3: haven't even seen full highlights. I think I saw some 424 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 3: low lights. I saw Damian Liller won the three point thing. 425 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 3: I didn't see that either. You know, Saturday, we did 426 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 3: some family stuff and you know holiday weekend Valentine's I 427 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: went to see Book of More In with the wife 428 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 3: as anybody, Rob, have you seen that? I have not 429 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 3: seen it yet, but I've heard good things. It's a pantageous, 430 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 3: pretty funny. And you know, I missed a lot of 431 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 3: the All Star game Sunday, but my daughter's volleyball thing 432 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 3: ended at a perfect time, so I was able to 433 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 3: catch the final game and a half. And you know 434 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 3: one of those deals where you're driving and you have 435 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 3: your phone posted up so you're not like watching the game, 436 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 3: but you have it on the audio on and the 437 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 3: game sounded incredible. 438 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 2: Rob. 439 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 3: Now, I wish I had watched more. But the ratings 440 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 3: eight point eight million people tuned in say, regardless of 441 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 3: what you read on social media, those people don't know anything. 442 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 3: They're just a bunch of haters or bots. Okay, and 443 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 3: the game was a huge success, largely because it sounds 444 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: like Wembin Yama was the driving force behind this. And 445 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 3: you know Anthony Edwards, who I amazingly called Thursday on 446 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 3: the Herd to win the MVP, just because he's a 447 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: tryhard and he hasn't won anything in the league. But 448 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,719 Speaker 3: my my big thesis rob behind Wembin Yama trying whereas 449 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 3: Jokic and Luca haven't, is that in Europe, those guys 450 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 3: played on like big time teams who won a lot. 451 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 3: Wemby didn't really win a ton when he was overseas 452 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: because he was a teenager for most of it, but 453 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 3: Luca was a transformational teenager. Wemby was still growing into 454 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 3: his body. And then Luca has been to the finals 455 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 3: with the Maps. I'm sorry, but you go to the finals, 456 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 3: you're not. You don't care that much about the LSTRO game. 457 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 3: Yoki just been to two finals with the Nuggets. He's 458 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 3: not gonna care that much. Wem Bin Yama has not 459 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 3: been to the playoffs in the NBA. Of course, he 460 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 3: cares about an All Star Game. He has a one 461 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 3: a damn thing in the league. 462 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: Now. If he goes to the finals this year, wins 463 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 2: a chip. 464 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 3: Let's see what the motivation is next all Star break 465 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 3: to come in and talk your talk and Wemby had 466 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 3: a great game. Him and Kawhi had quite the duel. 467 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 3: Kawhi ended up winning it. Kawhi was magnificent. Although if 468 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 3: you're a Clippers fan, you gotta hold your breath here 469 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 3: for the earth the first couple of weeks of the 470 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 3: second half. But if you're an OKAC fan who's sitting 471 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: on the Clippers pick, now that they don't have Zubots 472 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: or James Harden, you start thinking, wow, hey, maybe maybe 473 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 3: Clips pick as ours. But overall, I think the weekend 474 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 3: was a success. I did go to zero parties out 475 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 3: here in LA just because I'm old, and what's Valentine's weekend? 476 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 2: You know you got to do st with the wife. Yeah. 477 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, before we get to the Mby 478 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 2: All Star Game, I actually talked to Law Murray on Friday. 479 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 2: He was against on the radio show, and you had 480 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: told me before that he was going to play in 481 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: the Celebrity Game, the Celebrity the Media Game, and so 482 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 2: I was gonna Askhi about it, but I was like, 483 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if Jane McNiff's like a secret, like 484 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 2: a secret Avengers type thing where it's a nondescript location. 485 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: We can't talk about it. I didn't ask. I wish 486 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 2: I would ask him, no, And I look back on it. 487 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 2: I was going into the weekend fully expecting that your 488 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: media game was going to be the most competitive basketball 489 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 2: that we saw every day. And it wasn't. Like the 490 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 2: NBA All Star Game was good, and and I would 491 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 2: be lying to your face if I said I saw 492 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 2: that coming in. I was fully expecting, especially with the 493 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 2: way Kevin Durant was talking about it before, like last 494 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 2: Wednesday Thursday, saying something the effect of, you know, asked 495 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 2: Luca and yolks why they don't play hard? You know, 496 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 2: nobody plays hard. And I went back and watched games 497 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: from the seventies and eighties and nineties. They didn't play hard, 498 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: So why expecting us to play hard? And YadA, YadA, YadA. 499 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 2: And then once the ball went up on Sunday and 500 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 2: Wemby decided that he was actually gonna try, and then 501 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 2: Jamal Murray decided he was actually gonna try. And when 502 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: Wemby blocked that first shot into like the third row, 503 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: and he kind of gives this kind of glare at 504 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 2: the guy I remember who shot it, but he loose 505 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 2: kind of stares at him, and you see everyone k 506 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 2: perk up in their chair a little bit like, oh, okay, 507 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 2: so that's how we're gonna play now. And by the 508 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: third game, I know that the the lebron KD team 509 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: was kind of on their last legs by that point. 510 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 2: Too many old guys. They can't play that long. They 511 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: can't take a break and then come back and play 512 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 2: like you know, old bones don't work that way. You 513 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 2: gotta keep playing or you don't play at all. There's 514 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 2: no stop start at that age. And if they had 515 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: not run out of steam like you saw these guys, 516 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 2: it was, as we had been hoping for so long, 517 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 2: one of the best pickup games you're ever gonna see. 518 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 2: And there were media members and fans in attendance who 519 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: were tweeting out and saying how they saw in the 520 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 2: uh this would have been the second game you could 521 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 2: hear players discussing defensive assignments during one of the breaks. 522 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: When in your mind, do you remember a All star 523 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 2: game talking about defensive adjustments? Because these guys decided, you 524 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 2: know what, I don't know how much money is underlign 525 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 2: it's not enough for me to really care. I don't know, 526 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 2: you know, if this is really going to impact my 527 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: standing in the league. I don't think it's gonna help 528 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 2: me with the women or whatever. They just decided, you 529 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: know what, that guy's trying to bust my ass, trying 530 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 2: to embarrass me on TV, and I'm not gonna let 531 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: it happen. And then that came to this guy said 532 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 2: something to me. I didn't like what he said. I'm 533 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: gonna let him have it, and it just kind of 534 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: snowballed and snowballed, and Damian Lillard, I thought, summarized it 535 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 2: perfectly after his three point Contest win, which in participate 536 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 2: in three point TuS kind while because he han't played 537 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,479 Speaker 2: all season, so I was a little upset about that. 538 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 2: But he said during his acceptance speech that when he 539 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 2: shows up anywhere, he's there to compete, and guys know that, 540 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 2: and he's like, and there's too many guys nowadays who 541 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 2: when they get out here, they're afraid of losing, so 542 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 2: rather than lose, they'd rather not even try. And the 543 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 2: fact that you saw on them, maybe it is because 544 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 2: Wemby hasn't played at a real high level, hasn't played 545 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 2: in a real high stakes game ever, so that's why 546 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: he took it so personally. But I thought it was 547 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: really refreshing to see these guys give eighty percent effort, 548 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 2: you know, throughout the night. I thought it was awesome. 549 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 550 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 551 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 552 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 1: listen live. 553 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 3: I think you and I are in lockstep. I understand 554 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 3: not giving a total effort. I mean, yes, you could 555 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 3: be like remember when Kobe would try hard in the 556 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 3: All Star Game in ellen Iverson. Yeah, you know that 557 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 3: was before the old Rings culture from Max Charles Barkley, 558 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 3: as Rob likes to point out, like, those guys really 559 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 3: ruined things. Guys, I know you don't want to say that, 560 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 3: but it only became came about Rings, and now nobody says, hey, hey, 561 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 3: you remember that All Star Game and what it did 562 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: to is legacy. All Star games don't do anything to 563 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 3: your legacy. Now the goofiness is all about legacy. And 564 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 3: in the moment, sure, the All Star Game is fun 565 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 3: and I remember and I will forever remember Steph Curry 566 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 3: going nuclear from three a few years ago in the 567 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 3: All Star Game, But that's not like one of his 568 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 3: top ten to fifteen accomplishments. 569 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: Like, come on, does. 570 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 3: Anybody have an accomplishment in their career that is amazing 571 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 3: when it becomes what it comes to the. 572 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 2: All Star Game? I don't think so, do you? Rub No. 573 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 2: And for my age and my agee, I'm a little 574 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 2: bit younger than you, and I'm not as huge of 575 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: a Steph Curry fan, But to me, the one that 576 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: always stood out as like an All Star Game moment, 577 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: there's actually there's two. There's Alan Iverson coming back from 578 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 2: like a twenty point deficit to lead the East to 579 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 2: a win over the West because the West at the 580 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: time at all the best players. So it was like 581 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 2: AI and Friends versus Shaq, Kobe, Duncan Garnet, like it 582 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 2: was all these guys and Ai goes off and at 583 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 2: that point you saw in the fourth quarter when the 584 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 2: leads evaporating, that the Western Conference was really trying to 585 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 2: stop him and they just couldn't. So I thought that 586 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 2: was interesting. And then the other one, I don't know 587 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 2: if this was mean because I'm a Laker, fan, But 588 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 2: this was Kobe and Lebron. I remember Kobe picks up 589 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 2: Lebron full court blocks is shot twice there at the 590 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 2: end of the fourth quarter, and then the very last 591 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: opportunity of the Eastern Conference has Kobe's one on one 592 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: on Lebron. Lebron passes it off, he doesn't take the shot. 593 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: So Kobe side him, Carmelo side is them, and it's like, 594 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 2: come on, you can't even think the last shot in 595 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 2: an All Star Game. And to your point, though, because 596 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 2: Kobe has so many accomplishments, that's never going to be 597 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: cracking the top ten. Alan Iverson even though he doesn't 598 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 2: have a championship, has enough moments throughout his career and 599 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 2: just his impact on basketball culture, no one's gonna remember 600 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 2: that either. So maybe if you're a guy like I 601 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 2: know Russell Westbrook had a couple of moment where peoplere like, yeah, 602 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: I rember Russell Westbrok's moments, or I remember Victor woman yaws. 603 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 2: Because he hasn't done enough yet to have a resume, 604 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: that's gonna push it further down the list. 605 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's like Lebron, he never entered the dunk contest, 606 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 3: he doesn't need the dunk contest. Guys, what would he 607 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 3: do it for. It's a no win situation. If he wins, well, yeah, 608 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 3: he's Lebron. He won a dunk contest. 609 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,479 Speaker 2: He didn't. How many did Jordan win? 610 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 3: Jordan won more dunk contest than it, And then it's 611 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 3: like if he loses, see, he's not even as good. 612 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: As a dunker. 613 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 3: He can't hang in the dunk contest. Jordan won multiple, 614 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 3: Lebron couldn't win one, So it's like there's no win 615 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 3: for Lebron. I totally get that with the dunk contest, 616 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 3: and kind of sort of when it comes to the 617 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 3: Ulstra Lebron and I was dunk back yesterday in the 618 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: I guess it would be the semi final and a 619 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 3: final pool play game or whatever in transition late like 620 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 3: two minutes left. 621 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: And frankly, he's got bigger fish to fry. 622 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw this, and I don't 623 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 3: think the quote was made up, but Luca did some 624 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 3: sort of he was doing some media round thing and 625 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,479 Speaker 3: he said, yeah, we've got a very dangerous team, and 626 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 3: that kind of flies in the face of Lebron saying 627 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 3: we're not championed material now I don't know if that's 628 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 3: a subtle jab from Luca. 629 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: Did you see the comment, Robert, No, I have not 630 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 2: seen that yet. 631 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: Okay, so I don't know if it was a Hopefully 632 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 3: it's not made up, but be What I really wonder 633 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 3: is if there is some sort of cold war where 634 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 3: they're not frenemies, but it's like, hey man, we could 635 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 3: do this week, but they both go home knowing No, Luca, 636 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 3: Lebron ain't gonna be here next year. 637 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 2: Lebron, why I'm gonna be here next year? 638 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 3: I just wonder if it's that and I'm not gonna 639 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 3: be here because of that guy or because we didn't 640 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 3: trade Austin Reeves, And I don't know if that's happening. 641 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: I would like to think that everybody's a professional enough 642 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 3: that they could get this, get this through and actually 643 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 3: compete in the postseason. But yeah, Rob, I'm very curious 644 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 3: how this Lakers thing pans out the second half of 645 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 3: the season. 646 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of. 647 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 3: Teams to watch, but I think, without question number one 648 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 3: is the Lakers and is this Lebron's final run? 649 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? And you know what, ja Mak, this could be 650 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: a full circle moment for something you talked about like 651 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: whatever seven minutes ago when we started this little segment. 652 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 2: What if this is Luka Doncic, who has never won 653 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 2: anything at this level, being naive to what it takes 654 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 2: to win a championship. What if this is Luca donc 655 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 2: just saying, hey, I've been to the finals before. It 656 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: was me and a bunch of dudes. Because say what 657 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: you want about you know the fit of PJ. Washington, 658 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 2: and you know Kyrie Irving and Daniel Gafford. Look at 659 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: them now, I mean say for Kyrie because he's hurt. 660 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 2: Those guys are middle of the road, nondescript NBA players, 661 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: like rotational players at best. If they're starting on your team, 662 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 2: your team's probably not that good. If PJ. Washington and 663 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 2: Daniel Gafford are getting huge minutes, right, But when you 664 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 2: put Luca doncies at the center, they can make a 665 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 2: run in the finals. So maybe this is Luca's way 666 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: of saying, hey, I've seen what happens when you put 667 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 2: me and guys around me. I can carry us to 668 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 2: a certain level. And I believe that with Lebron and 669 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: Austin Reeves, you know, supplementing me offensively, that we can 670 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 2: win a championship. Maybe he really believes that. And Lebron, 671 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 2: to your point, a guy who actually has won at 672 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: this level, who has been to the finals over and 673 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: over and over, forget what David Griffin's has been there 674 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 2: a lot, right, And maybe because he knows what it 675 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 2: actually takes to win. It's one thing to get to 676 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 2: the final, another thing that actually win one. So maybe 677 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: that's where the difference comes in. 678 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 3: So the exact quote is and Lucas said, it's something 679 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 3: called ESPN TakeBack Sports. I don't know what that means. Obviously, 680 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 3: we have three main ball handlers, Mear and Bron. I 681 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 3: think we can be a very very dangerous team. We 682 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 3: haven't had much time to play together since everyone has 683 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 3: been injured, but I'm excited after the All Star we 684 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 3: get to play together. So they have played ten games 685 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 3: together this year. The Lakers are seven and three with them. 686 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 3: That's it ten games together, and it's not like they 687 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 3: had a ton last year together because of the injuries, 688 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 3: and Luca only got there in February, so I would 689 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 3: guess they've played together under thirty games as a trio. 690 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 3: There's no way you can get an idea after thirty 691 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 3: games together. 692 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 2: If it'll work. 693 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 3: I think what we both know, though, Rob is it's 694 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 3: not going to work at Lebron's salary. 695 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: You can't. Even though he's averaging twenty two to seven 696 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 2: and five. That's great. I need more than that for 697 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 2: fifty million, especially at the defensive end. J Mack, I 698 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 2: know you like stats. One of the Kaminiski brothers, they've 699 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 2: been on the show before, put out a tweet earlier 700 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 2: on Monday, And to your point, Luca, Austin and Lebron 701 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: the trio have played a combined one hundred and fifty 702 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 2: two total minutes together this season. For comparison's sake, Drew Timmy, 703 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: who was out of the league up until like a 704 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 2: month and a half ago, has played one hundred and 705 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 2: fifty total minutes this season. Wow. So that, I mean 706 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,719 Speaker 2: when Drew Timmy by himself is about as much as 707 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 2: your three best players combined. It's not a good look. 708 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 2: And surprisingly enough, there's still you know, top half of 709 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: the Western commerce last night checked. 710 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 3: Let's say, yeah, what does that say that JJ Reddick 711 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 3: has these guys at thirty three and twenty one, when 712 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 3: his big three have played ten games together. I mean, 713 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 3: at some point Reddick's got to get some credit, guys, 714 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 3: and I know they're beating up on bad teams, and 715 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 3: the schedule gets very tough after the All Star break. 716 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 3: I just I'm not gonna you, guys. Everybody can doubt Luca, 717 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 3: that's fine. I'm not gonna doubt him. So there's no 718 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 3: games until Thursday night when the NBA returns. 719 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 2: No Lakers Thursday. 720 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 3: That Lakers actually back Friday against the paper Clips. That 721 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 3: should be fun at Crypto, and then the Lakers start 722 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 3: a stretch rob where it's like, hey man, there's no 723 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 3: days off basically, not not literally, but in terms of opponent. 724 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 2: I mean, you go right out. 725 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 3: You go Clippers, Celtics, who are good magic, who are 726 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 3: getting healthy sons, who are a playoff team, Warriors. 727 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 2: I'm guessing Curry will be back by then. Then you 728 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 2: get a. 729 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 3: Respite with the Kings and Pels before you go at 730 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 3: the Nuggets March fifth, and then March madness starts to 731 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 3: be kind of lose track of the NBA. But let 732 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 3: me see, I think Tankathon has toughest schedules the rest 733 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 3: of the way. 734 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 2: No they don't. Yeah, I don't see it here, but 735 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 2: there is a site. 736 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 3: Eventually, I'll find it where it's teams with the toughest 737 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 3: remaining schedule and easiest. I would guess the Lakers probably 738 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: have a top ten tough schedule left because the league 739 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 3: likes to stack their games at the end of the 740 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 3: season so that they're on national TV more. 741 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: Now that wait for it, there's no NFL. 742 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 3: College basketball has actually been pretty damn good this season, 743 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 3: and those numbers have been good. Listen, I know people 744 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 3: don't love basketball. They just think all the players don't care. 745 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 3: Like I'm just college basketball right now is on fire. 746 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 3: I mean, the season has been incredible, March Madness is 747 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 3: going to be off the hook, and the NBA is 748 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 3: just really good. I know you guys don't like it. Hey, 749 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 3: everybody's tanking. I just told you the Dolphins and the 750 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 3: Jets are tanking. Okay, don't believe the words, believe the actions. 751 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 3: And I think we're going to see more teams in 752 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 3: the NFL start to be like, maybe we don't over 753 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 3: invest in this quarterback. Why would I trade for Kyler 754 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 3: Murray or Tua when I can bottom out and make 755 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 3: a run at XYZ next year in the draft. Because 756 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 3: as you guys saw late in the NFL season, a 757 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 3: lot of the teams that were left had quarterbacks on 758 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 3: cheap deals or rookie deals. The NBA doesn't have an 759 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 3: equivalent of that, except for the fact that, well, let's 760 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 3: get off Anthony Davis, let's let's move Trey Young, let's 761 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 3: trade all these these bad contracts and Rob. 762 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. 763 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 3: I can't hate the tanking, honestly, I just accept it 764 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,439 Speaker 3: as it is. I don't want to do a big 765 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 3: tanking discussion. How should they fix it? 766 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. I haven't put any effort into how 767 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 2: they should fix it? Have you done any of that? 768 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 2: Or no? A little bit. And I hate to bash 769 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 2: this person because I really love his content. We're both 770 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 2: Zach Low. Yeah, I think Zach Low is awesome. But 771 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 2: I listened to his last podcast episode and it was 772 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 2: an hour and a half and how to fix Tanking? 773 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 2: And I have never turned off a Zachlow podcast ever 774 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 2: in my life. Like, in the before it ended, I 775 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 2: was like, you know what, even me, someone who consumes 776 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 2: a lot of basketball content and is a big fan, 777 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 2: I was like, you know, I'm good on this one. Well, 778 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 2: he did an hour on tanking and like an hour 779 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 2: fifteen Yeah, and like how to fix the lottery system. 780 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 2: What's the best way to do it? And it was 781 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 2: very you know, inside basketball type of conversation, like if 782 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 2: you are a nerds nerd, you probably loved it. For me, 783 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 2: I was like, you know, I'd rather hear about storylines 784 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 2: than tanking. That was just that was just my that's rough. Yeah, 785 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 2: I'm still gonna listen to the next episode because I'm 786 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 2: a big fan is, but just that. 787 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 3: Episode for me, I haven't consumed as much since he 788 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 3: left ESPN. 789 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 2: I'll have to. 790 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 3: I'll have to check that out if I have an 791 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,919 Speaker 3: hour and fifteen minutes to work the suit. 792 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 2: But uh, good chat to post All Star Break. We 793 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 2: are back tomorrow. Talk to you then.