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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Ethan Edelman, and this is Psychoactive, a production

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Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio and Protozoa Pictures. Psychoactive is the

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Speaker 1: show where we talk about all things drugs. But any

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Speaker 1: views expressed here do not represent those of I Heart Media,

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Speaker 1: Protozoa Pictures, or their executives and employees. Indeed, as an

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Speaker 1: inveterate contrarian, I can tell you they may not even

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Speaker 1: represent my own. And nothing contained in this show should

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Speaker 1: be used as medical advice or encouragement to use any

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Speaker 1: type of drugs. Hello, Psychoactive listeners, So we got a

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Speaker 1: fun one today. My guest is Ellen Scanlon, and about

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Speaker 1: three years ago she started a podcast called how to

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Speaker 1: Do the Pot, specifically for and directed at women, all

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Speaker 1: about cannabis. So, Ellen, thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 1: me on Psychoactive. Thank you for having me. It's great

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Speaker 1: to be here. Well, I'll tell you I've been listening

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Speaker 1: to your podcast and I'm really enjoying the kind of

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Speaker 1: very sensible advice that you've been given to people, and

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Speaker 1: and and the thinking about it. So, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: I mean, firstly, just a bit about yourself, you know,

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Speaker 1: when did you first start using cannabis? You know, my

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Speaker 1: you say that, I mean, you've basically had a positive

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Speaker 1: you know, I've always liked weed. Um. I like how

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Speaker 1: so that was sort of my story in New York.

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Speaker 1: I also I was working on Wall Street. I was

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm happy to say that, and I love

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Speaker 1: you're taking, or even if you even if you are.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've had women on my show who have

433
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: been dealing with terrible insomnia and gone into their doctor

434
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: and that their doctor has given them a prescription for

435
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: ambient and said, you're going to have to start taking

436
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 1: more of this. It's going to stop working. So maybe

437
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: what you do is take it for two weeks of

438
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: the month and then don't take it for two weeks,

439
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: and it's like, is that really a solution, that's really

440
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: the advice that you're getting. And the same issue about

441
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: people developing tolerance. Does one develop tolerance for the effects

442
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: of CBD and that it does need to be increased

443
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: over time to achieve the same effects or not, But

444
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 1: I guess there's really no research on that as well.

445
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: At this point, I have not found that to be

446
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: the case. I don't need more. I need more when

447
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: I'm more stressed, but I don't need more just to

448
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 1: kind of keep my balanced level. And one thing I

449
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 1: will say about sleeping cannabis, I talked to a lot

450
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: of people who will kind of say, you know, Ellen,

451
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,479
Speaker 1: I'm just really not into weed, but I take an

452
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 1: edible every night to sleep, and it's changed my life,

453
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: and so um sleep is so important to just human

454
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: functioning that it has been I think an entryway for

455
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 1: some people who are willing to try anything to get

456
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: a good night's rest and finding great, great relief with cannabis. Now,

457
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: everything you're saying right about thertal immune disease and stress

458
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: and anxiety and sleep, it all applies really equally to

459
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: men and women. I mean, obviously, I think probably women

460
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: suffer from many of these issues more than men do. UM.

461
00:25:54,560 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: But in terms of the advice, is there anything significantly different. No.

462
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: You know, my husband takes CBD just like I do.

463
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: It works for him. When he stops taking it, if he,

464
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: you know, starts to feel more stressed, he takes more. UM.

465
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: The thing that I do notice, and this is also anecdotal,

466
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: but you know, if my husband and I are sharing

467
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: a joint on a Saturday night, sometimes all like it

468
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 1: and he won't, or you know, I'll have effects that

469
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 1: feel like I feel very chatty and um, really kind

470
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: of excited about things, and he gets super sleepy. So

471
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: the effects can really differ a lot between us UM.

472
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: Which is one of the challenges about cannabis and why

473
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: I've tried to make my show so practical, because I

474
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: really want people to feel confident about cannabis for health,

475
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 1: for well being, for fun and knowing more about it.

476
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: You know, there are some kind of tools that you

477
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: can use. You know, if I find myself too high,

478
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: I know that I can take a CBD oil tincture

479
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: and put it under my tongue. And it'll balance out

480
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: how I'm feeling. Um, A little tricks like that that

481
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: can really help with confidence for men and for women,

482
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: because there's just not enough. It's interesting point that if

483
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: you are feeling too high, that putting a little CBD

484
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 1: thinks you're saying under your tongue can really help bring

485
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: you down from that a bit and turn turn it

486
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: kind of too much high into a pleasant high. It's

487
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: the best advice I try and tell everyone that I can. Yes,

488
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: it's amazing. Um, if you're trying a new strain, or

489
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: if you're going to be out with people and you're

490
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: not sure you know how you want to feel, just

491
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: throw a CBD oil tincture um into your bag and

492
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: put um a dropper underneath your tongue, hold it there

493
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: for probably sixty seconds, and then about fifteen minutes you

494
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: will feel less high and more like yourself. Oh, that's

495
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: it's it's great advice. Well, let me ask you. I

496
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: mean maybe it's just cross the line, let me know.

497
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: But so listen to the issue of mari one in sex. Um,

498
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: you know, what's your general advice and thoughts about about that.

499
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: Every woman should have a weed lube in her bedside table.

500
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: Just every woman a weed loube. Finally, so cannabis lube.

501
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: It's you know, just a serum. Um. If you live

502
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: in a legal state, you can buy uh we lube

503
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: that has th HC in it, which um is wonderful.

504
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: But if you don't, cannabis lube with just CBD is

505
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: also really fantastic and I highly highly recommend it um.

506
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: This goes back to the pelvic region and the endocannabinoid

507
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: system and having more receptors and cannabis in a lube

508
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 1: it topical. It will not make you feel intoxicated, but

509
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: it will bring more blood flow to the area and

510
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: that increases sensuality, increases touch. And so the weed lube

511
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: just as a as a topical is something that I

512
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: give as a gift. UM. I give it as to

513
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: friends as a gift a lot and UM and I

514
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: highly highly recommend it um. And are there I mean

515
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: I said, I don't think either of us is getting

516
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: paid anything by any cannabis companies. Are there are there

517
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: brands that you'd recommend? Yes? Um, there's a brand called

518
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: fouria Um which has a CBD and a th HC

519
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 1: lube t HC is available in California. In Colorado, I

520
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: think a company called Quim which you can buy I

521
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: think like at Nordstrums and urban outfitters. There's another one

522
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: called um Her Highness. Her Highness has a very very

523
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: fantastic weedlube that comes with some other um herbs in it,

524
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: and so yes, I highly highly recommend weed lube for everyone,

525
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: for every woman, and it does not really have an

526
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: effect on men, So this is just for women topically,

527
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: These weed lubes are are really not going to do

528
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: much for men, but you'll have a partner who is

529
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: you know, feeling hopefully much better, stronger orgasms, just feeling

530
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: more sensation and and stronger positive feelings. So that is

531
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: a wonderful thing. Cannabis for sex as sort of consuming

532
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: it is definitely a little bit more complicated, and again

533
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: it goes back to kind of what you are noticing

534
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: the theme of what I'm saying, which is lower th

535
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: HC having cb D. I always recommend that if you

536
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: are new to cannabis and sex, that you start experimenting

537
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: with yourself and understand how you feel with these different strains,

538
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: because issues of consent and and comfort really can can

539
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: play a role. And so we lube I am on

540
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: for for every woman and then experimenting a little bit

541
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: more if you want to bring cannabis, whether you're consuming

542
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: it with edibles or um or smoking it into the bedroom.

543
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: And the loops you're talking about are generally CBD high

544
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: and low th HC. So the loops that I'm talking about,

545
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: it is sort of a funny experience to walk into

546
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: a dispensary and buy a weed lube. UM. So I

547
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: do it like periodically just to remind myself that it's

548
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: a little bit uncomfortable. But that is the only place

549
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: where you'll be able to buy weed lobes with th

550
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: HC from a licensed dispensary or delivery service. Um. But

551
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: cbdlubes because CBD, because CBD is legal all across the country. Um,

552
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: you can order it over the internet. M hmm. I mean, yeah,

553
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: this conversation is going through some sensitive directions. But I've

554
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: wondered too, when you have a more heavy a loube

555
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: that's more heavy on th HC. You know, how shall

556
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: I say this? I mean, if oral sex is involved,

557
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: this demand getting high. Yeah, and and this is where

558
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: again you know, not a lot of data, mostly anecdotal UM.

559
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: And I think where it really becomes a question is

560
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: around drug testing UM and there is definitely a possibility

561
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: of having a positive drug test UM and so I

562
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: think that that's another reason why it's really important to

563
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: talk to your partner about what is happening about how

564
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: you want to handle the loop. Maybe if you have

565
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: a partner who's getting drug tested, it's CBD lube, you know,

566
00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: just considering all of the parts of how cannabis UH

567
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: affects your sex life but also your life outside of

568
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: the bedroom. Now you have the series of episodes on

569
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: your podcast called the twelve Best Cannabis Strains for Women.

570
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: So I mean, there's no hard research any of this stuff, right,

571
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: It's all anecdotal coming from consumers and from people who

572
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: work in stores and such. But well, let me start

573
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: off with a very specific question. Have you found in

574
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: talking about this that there are certain strains they prefer

575
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: with sex? They say this one is great for sex.

576
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: I think that the strain that comes up the most

577
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: is GSC which used to be known as Girl Scott Cookies. UM.

578
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: People really like that one. I like to recommend it

579
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: because I think it offers a balance of a body

580
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: and a head high. It can be a strong strain,

581
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: so one or two hits should should be fine. UM.

582
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: We recently put out a series about what is good

583
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: weed for women, and our most popular episode of the

584
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: series is what is good Balanced Weed? And the two

585
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: strains that we recommended in that UM in that series

586
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: are bubblegum and Harlequin, and I think those are also

587
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: really great strains to consider for sex. And this is

588
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,239
Speaker 1: why trying out a strain knowing whether you like it,

589
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: knowing how it makes you feel, is a really important

590
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: part of introducing it into a sexual relationship with a partner,

591
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:25,719
Speaker 1: because you want to know how it's going to make

592
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: you feel. And some people love those strains, but some

593
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: people don't. UM, So this is not the time to

594
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: try something new. I wouldn't recommend let's take a break

595
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: here and go to an ad. Do you find it's

596
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: important that that? I mean that many consumers like to

597
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: switch between strains, that if you keep using the same

598
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: strain over and over and over, you sort of begin

599
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,239
Speaker 1: develop more of a tolerance for its psychoactive effects, and

600
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: that by mixing them up that can keep, you know,

601
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: keep one appreciating the particular psychoactive effects or alternatively, uh

602
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: that people uh, you know say that well, I like

603
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: this strain, you know, for sex, and this strain is

604
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 1: great for just chilling and going to watch a movie,

605
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: and this strain is best for, you know, when I

606
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: want to do my yoga. Um. And that people are

607
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: tailoring which strain they use for what activity they're going

608
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: to be engaging in. I think that is one of

609
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: the incredible parts of a legal market that you can

610
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: go shopping and decide what you want to buy. And

611
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: if you've had a good experience at yoga with a

612
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: c d C, you know, you can probably find a

613
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: C d C. If you love O G kush Um,

614
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: you know, maybe that's the perfect strain for you to

615
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: be watching a movie. Um. We have a series on

616
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: our show called The First Time I Bought Legal Weed

617
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: and women sending their story from all over the country

618
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: and talk about their first experience. Because I really believe

619
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: that it's a big barrier to a lot of women

620
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 1: that they're just scared to go into a dispensary. There's

621
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: a you know, usually a big dude outside, which is

622
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: partly because it's a cash business. And so I want

623
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: people to understand that this really can be more of

624
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 1: a shopping experience and that you can start to dial

625
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: in how you feel. Um, there are some people who

626
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 1: just will always love the classics. But I also always

627
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: say cannabis is a plant. So just because you love

628
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: this strain from this particular brand, you know, it might

629
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: be different in December than it is in June because

630
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: the growing conditions were different, and so they're just a

631
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: lot of variables to this being a plant. Well, you know,

632
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: in terms of those other best cannabis strains, um, what

633
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: were other ones that really stood out in terms of

634
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: particular activities or preferences. One of the most popular strains

635
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 1: in our series. Uh, we call it the Giggly pot

636
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 1: and that's x J thirteen, which, um, is a really

637
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: fun strain that you know. I think that this started

638
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: sort of mid pandemic when I would just get texts

639
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: or calls from friends like I just need to laugh?

640
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: Can you please help me? Like what, it's just gonna

641
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: make me smile? Um? So x J thirteen is one

642
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: that I love to recommend to people. Um, I tend

643
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: to recommend sort of either lower th HC strains, which

644
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 1: would be t HC you know around t or looking

645
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: for either flower or pre roles that have CBD in them,

646
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: because you know, sometimes not really feeling it can be

647
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: the perfect place for you to kind of start again

648
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: understanding how cannabis might come into your life. And I

649
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: just it's like my mission in life that that no

650
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: one gets too high, you know, higher than they want,

651
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: because I've just watched so many people say I will

652
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: never or I'll never touch that again. I had such

653
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: a bad experience. I ate an edible and I you know,

654
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 1: it was high for two days and it was awful.

655
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: And it just doesn't have to be that way. And

656
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: so I really encourage people, um with all the strains

657
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: that I recommend just start slow. Wait, you know, don't

658
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: eat another edible and have fun with it. You know,

659
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: like you don't have to be like me and keep

660
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: notes on your phone and in a journal and all

661
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: of that. But it can be really fun to keep

662
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: a journal and kind of remember which strains make you

663
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: feel a certain way. It's also a really helpful way

664
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: to find your next favorite strain because when you go

665
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 1: into a dispensary, one of the questions I always recommend

666
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: people to to talk about with the retail salespeople the

667
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: bud tenders, is you know, what was the last best

668
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: experience you had with cannabis and what did you like

669
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: about it? Because if you can tell them that, they

670
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: will understand the clues of what you're saying. And most

671
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: people who were a dispensaries absolutely love weed and absolutely

672
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: want to help people find the perfect weed for them.

673
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: So um, really paying attention to why you like what

674
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: you try is just such a great way to kind

675
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: of um build your relationship with cannabis. So it's perfect

676
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: for for your needs, we don't. I also think that

677
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: when I think about you know, many people over the

678
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: years have said to me that, oh, yeah, I didn't

679
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: really want it, but it made me feel uncomfortable or

680
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: paranoid or whatever, and I just not used to try

681
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: it again, although maybe they're under pressure or feeling they

682
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: should give it a go again because it's becoming so

683
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: much more common, um in our society. And sometimes what

684
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: I'll do is I'll find that many times people whose

685
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: initial experience is like that it said because they used

686
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: cannabis for the first time in a social environment where

687
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: they were not entirely comfortable, and so my advice to

688
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: them will oftentimes be less about strains. It will be

689
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: more about well, next time you do it, you know,

690
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: do it only with people you really feel comfortable with.

691
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: People you don't have to feel that you're being on with,

692
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: you know, people you can relax with their Do it

693
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: by yourself or with one other person, your partner or friend,

694
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: and do it, you know, sitting outdoors or watching a

695
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: sunset or maybe taving a swim in the lake or

696
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: or something like that, and give yourself another chance to

697
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: re encounter marijuana in a in a safe way and

698
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 1: a safe place. Now. You know. One of the things

699
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: is that people say they talked about an element of

700
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: you know, some paranoia, and I think you did an

701
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 1: episode specifically about marijuana and paranoia. So what was that about?

702
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: We did? We have a series that's called Weed Words,

703
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: which helps to just dig into the words that you

704
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 1: think you should know but maybe you don't um and

705
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: we have a show on marijuana, CBD and paranoia and

706
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: the Paranoia show is I love this one because I

707
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: think there are two ways to look at paranoia. There's

708
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: a physical, you know, the feeling of being paranoid that

709
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: a person can have if they have too much cannabis.

710
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: And what I have learned and what There are some

711
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: studies around this um showing that high THHC can activate

712
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: the amygdala in your brain, which increases feelings of paranoia.

713
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: So it is a real phenomenon UM. And I also

714
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: think that what you said earlier about set and setting

715
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: can really play a role. We have another show on

716
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: the Munchies, and this also kind of comes to play

717
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: with people who are experiencing the munchies. If you have

718
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: an expectation that you are going to be super hungry,

719
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: you might eat more, and cannabis makes food tastes smell better,

720
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: so you're probably gonna like it. And I think the

721
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: same thing can can be with with paranoia, where if

722
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: you have an expectation that this is something that might

723
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: make you feel self conscious, that might make you feel uncomfortable,

724
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 1: then that can become a self fulfilling prophecy um. And

725
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: and it just goes back to trying to kind of

726
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: confidence in people that it doesn't have to be this way,

727
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: that if you get too high, there are ways that

728
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: you can come down. UM, And like my CBD oil

729
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: tincture tip and and trying to just open up to

730
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: this maybe being related to kind of cultural phenomenon. The

731
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: third meta layer of paranoia is just you know, all

732
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: of the propaganda that has come out of the War

733
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: on drugs and fear and very real fear for people

734
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: of being arrested. Black people are four times more likely

735
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: than white people to be arrested for possessing cannabis. So

736
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: there are very real reasons that paranoia and cannabis are

737
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: tied together. But we tried to unpack it in this

738
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: episode and and break down the specifics so that you

739
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 1: can feel more confident that you can avoid that as

740
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: a side effect and also potentially open up your mind

741
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: to why you feel that way. Mm hmmm mmmm. So

742
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: marijuana and markets, right, I mean, you know, so much

743
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: of business is still male dominated. Uh, you know, most

744
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: of the entrepreneurs, most of the startups are men. Although

745
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: I will say I was just recently at a at

746
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: a meeting with all sorts of women, in fact, women

747
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: of color, who were engaged in starting their own marijuana

748
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: businesses or involved in marijuana regulation or involved in marijuana advocacy. Um,

749
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: but what's your sense about, you know, perception is the

750
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: proportion of women in the industry growing? Um? I mean,

751
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 1: do you encourage women to shop at women owned stores

752
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: or outlets. What's your approach on this. I think it

753
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: really comes back to capital and access to capital, and

754
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: in an industry like cannabis, which is federally legal, uh,

755
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: there's no access to banking and so to fund cannabis

756
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: businesses requires either running them off of profits, which are

757
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: hard to come by in this industry at this moment

758
00:42:55,120 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: for many people, or raising money, and women historically have

759
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 1: raised two of all venture funding, so of venture capital

760
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: money is going to men, and UM, it's it's fairly depressing,

761
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: um to think about it. I was just at a

762
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: conference with a bunch of women and we were, you know,

763
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: experiencing this lack of capital and cannabis and talking about it,

764
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: and the men were talking about it and the women

765
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: and I kind of moved to the side and we're like,

766
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: you know, I think it might just always be this

767
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: hard for women. So maybe we're at an advantage in

768
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: a moment when capital is really hard to come by. UM.

769
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: And I think that a lot of the women that

770
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: I know who have gotten into the cannabis industry are

771
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: in it because they or someone that they love has

772
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: had their life drastically improved by the plan, and so

773
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: there's just a very strong passion. UM, this is a

774
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: really challenging industry. It's a startup industry, it's federally illegal,

775
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 1: it is completely different by state. There's no interstate commerce.

776
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: You know. They're all kinds of chal lenges to scaling

777
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: and running a business. And I think that, um, it

778
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: is it's hard because the more capital is scarce, the

779
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: more likely it's going to go to the bigger companies.

780
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: I listened to your fascinating interview with Boris Jordan's, who

781
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 1: I think has a similar view that you know, the

782
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: next few years and watching what is going to happen

783
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: with something like safe banking could really make a difference

784
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: for smaller players, and I do agree with him. I

785
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: think that access to capital is one of the biggest

786
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: challenges for women and for people of color in cannabis.

787
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: Mm hm. You know it's interesting, um. And I was

788
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: recently at the ark View conference. You know, the ark

789
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: View Marijuana Business conference has been around for quite a

790
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: number of years, and that always weaves in some themes

791
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: around equity and social justice, cetera. But two people I

792
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: met there, um. One was the head of Truly, the

793
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: Florida based company. I think it's Kim, who I never

794
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: met before, and I that's one of the five biggest companies.

795
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: So I guess she's the one woman who's playing at

796
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: that kind of top level of things. Um. And and

797
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the multi state operators are

798
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: seeing quite critically by the small business folks. The other person,

799
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: by that way, I met with somebody who I think

800
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: has been a guest of yours quite frequently, and that's

801
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: Dr June chin Um talking about the medical aspects of marijuana.

802
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: We had a little connection. I guess she's living in Scarsdale,

803
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: New York, which is where I didn't grow up there,

804
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: but I graduated high school there. UM. So yeah, June Chinn,

805
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 1: by the way, her expertise is she specialized on women

806
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 1: and cannabis. She has a lot of expertise on women

807
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: in cannabis. But I think she just specializes in cannabis. UM.

808
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: And there's so few physicians that have that expertise and

809
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: are willing to talk about it. Um. That's who I

810
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: sent to my friend yesterday who had sent me the

811
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: questions about Crownscincy. She's a wonderful resource. M and so listen,

812
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: so all this talk about marijuana. And meanwhile, there's this

813
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: psychedelics renaissance going on, and you know, there's always been

814
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: in the academic world. I mean, I have on my shelves,

815
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: I have book after book about women and heroin women.

816
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: It's like it's women in pregnancy, women in this one

817
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: in that historical perspective, health perspective. In fact, you know,

818
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: I grabbed the book off the shelf because my notes

819
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: I need. I need a large sized book to to

820
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: keep my notes on. And the book I just by coincidence,

821
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: grabbed off the shelf is one that came out forty

822
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: years ago called Shaman Women Mainline Lady Women's Writings on

823
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: the Drug Experience, edited by Cynthia Palmer and Michael Harowitz.

824
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: So all which makes me wonder, are you find yourself

825
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 1: getting interested in women and other drugs, notably psychedelics. Are

826
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: you gonna stay on this women in marijuana thing for

827
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: a while. It's funny that you ask that. I So,

828
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: I live in San Francisco and I have been going

829
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: to parties where everyone is on mushrooms a lot and

830
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: lose basic lodos mushrooms, and I really kind of it's

831
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: just it kind of makes me laugh because if you

832
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: years ago, it was like Ellen works and weed, and

833
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: now it's like Ellen doesn't know anything about mushroom. I mean,

834
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I was just at a gathering and

835
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: it's so I mean, I went over to friends house

836
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: and and he showed me the guy who, you know,

837
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: the marijuana delivery guy in New York City. And now

838
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: the delivery guys are bringing not just all sorts of

839
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: cannabis to smoke, but also vade pens and also edibles

840
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: and you know, drinkables and tinctures in this and that.

841
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: And they're bringing over, you know, seven different versions of

842
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: mushroom chocolate bars or mushroom candies and maybe a little

843
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: too CB and stuff like that. And I mean, this

844
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: is what's going on on the kind of illicit delivery

845
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: front um and now the kind of quasi legal delivery

846
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: front And the same thing. I'm at a party and

847
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 1: there's somebody's got some you know, kind of micro dozing

848
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: or slightly higher level of mushroom stuff. Um, so what

849
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: are you thinking? Are you going to be diving in?

850
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: You know, I've asked a lot of people about this,

851
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: and when I go to conferences, I usually walk in

852
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: and I tell myself, I have to learn more about

853
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: psychedelics before I leave here. And the people that I've

854
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: talked to have said, you're kind of called to it

855
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 1: or you're not, And right now I don't feel called

856
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 1: to it. I think that what's happened for me working

857
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: in cannabis and and understanding the way that a legal

858
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: market works, and especially around dosage, I just am not

859
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Speaker 1: very comfortable putting something into my body than when I

860
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: don't know how much is there and can Mushrooms have

861
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: been decriminalized in San Francisco, so that could potentially open

862
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: up dosing for me, and I'm sure that there are

863
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: many many people who could help me with this, but

864
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: right now I feel pretty happy um with cannabis. But

865
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Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by what I've been learning about psychedelics, which

866
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: is really just like the advances that are going to

867
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Speaker 1: be possible in the next few years around treatments for

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Speaker 1: mental health issues. So UM. I was speaking to someone

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Speaker 1: at this conference that where I was called Trailblazers in

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Speaker 1: o Hi a few weeks ago at a great conference,

871
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: and he was saying that basically, right now, when you

872
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Speaker 1: go in and you're talking to a psychiatrist or someone

873
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: about a mental health issue. You kind of spill your

874
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: symptoms and then they have a handful of drugs that

875
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: can help you to combat them, but many of them

876
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: come with side effects. Many of them aren't, you know,

877
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: very specific about what they're doing. And what the research

878
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: into psychedelics of of all different types is going to

879
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: allow for is really really targeted care for specific issues.

880
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: So I'm thrilled that that is coming. You know, I've

881
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: read the Michael Pollen book, I've read sort of the

882
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: mainstream books about psychedelics, but right now I'm sticking with weed.

883
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Okay, Well listen. So you've been doing a

884
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: podcast now for three years. I'm at about the one

885
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: and a half year more. I'm loving it and enjoying it.

886
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: I mean, it's keeping me engaged and I'm both you know,

887
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,959
Speaker 1: interviewing a old friends and colleagues as well as meeting

888
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 1: new people such as yourself, and I enjoy the whole

889
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: process of it. And and what's your feelings? So, after

890
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: three years, do you see yourself continue to do this

891
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: for years to come? Do you see yourself branching out

892
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: in other ways? In the in the cannabis area. Well,

893
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 1: I am raising money for my business. So if anyone

894
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: wants to talk about angel investing in a fast growing

895
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: women focus business, I would love to talk more about it.

896
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: I love it, and what's the business. This is the business,

897
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: this is the education platform, and building a community and

898
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: turning it into kind of whatever comes next in cannabis.

899
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: I think that community first is the way that a

900
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: lot of businesses that focus on women in kind of

901
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: newer areas like well being and health related areas UM

902
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: start and start strongly because you can develop your ambassadors

903
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: and people really need to feel trust. So that has

904
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: been a huge just passion project of mine, helping to

905
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: develop this community and allow women to feel like they

906
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: not only can learn, but but learn from a friend

907
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: and learn from someone who is really thinking about UM

908
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: how to UM encourage a you know, a happier life

909
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: at its root. So I love it. UM It's it's

910
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 1: really fun. Also, you know, I was an English major

911
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: and I love to read and I love to write,

912
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: and so I get to write all my shows they're scripted,

913
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: and work with amazing collaborators. I think that's been a

914
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 1: really fun part about being in podcasting that UM It's

915
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: it's certainly not a movie. But you know, we bring

916
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: a lot of different people in. I've got my copywriters

917
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: who help with our social media. We have all kinds

918
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: of sort of different growth areas digitally, because cannabis is

919
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: a tricky industry to market in and to try to

920
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 1: grow a business because we don't have access to any

921
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: type of digital marketing, so everything has to be organic.

922
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: So I'm sort of perpetually looking to see where where

923
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: the consumer that I want to talk to might be,

924
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: and other people aren't thinking about it. A Pinterest, for instance,

925
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: is a really wonderful channel for us and for our podcasts.

926
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: We post everything on there and we have a great reception.

927
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's like a super fun puzzle marketing challenge.

928
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 1: This is the most fascinating industry. Cannabis is a fascinating industry,

929
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: but so is podcasting, and it's growing nearly as fast.

930
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: At least it's legal, right, yeah, it is legal in

931
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: all fifty states, not just nineteen all right exactly. And

932
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: the website that's connected to all of your work do

933
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: the pot dot com, So everything you can check us

934
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: out on all the socials where do the pot dot

935
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Speaker 1: com or at do the pot and UM, yeah, please

936
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: check us out. We've got all kinds of information on

937
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 1: the website. We have so many episodes that I hope

938
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Speaker 1: answer all of the questions that women and that just

939
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: people in general might be secretly googling and and not

940
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: able to find a good resource to answer their questions.

941
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: Uh huh, Well, I mean, I so much enjoying the conversation.

942
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: I mean, for me, part of what I've learned, of course,

943
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: is some of the issues and how they're specific to

944
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: women on health and wellness especially, but the other one

945
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 1: is simply, you know, just it's made me. It's given

946
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: me a little push to develop a better understanding of

947
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: CBD in the high CBD ratio visa v T h

948
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Speaker 1: C and looking in that into more deeply. And also

949
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: because I haven't done CBD really as a daily supplement,

950
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: so I really really appreciate this. So I do want

951
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: to thank you, um for taking this time with me

952
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: and my listeners on Psychoactive, and I wish you all

953
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: the best with your you know, the podcast and your

954
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: future ventures. Thank you so much. This has been a

955
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: great conversation. I'm so happy to have had it. If

956
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: you're enjoying Psychoactive. Please tell your friends about it, or

957
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: you can write us a review at Apple Podcasts or

958
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. We love to hear from

959
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: our listeners. If you'd like to share your own stories,

960
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 1: comments and ideas, then leave us a message at one

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Speaker 1: eight e three seven seven nine six that's eight three

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Speaker 1: three psycho zero, or you can email us at Psychoactive

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Speaker 1: at protozoa dot com, or find me on Twitter at

964
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: Ethan natal Man. You can also find contact information in

965
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: our show notes. Psychoactive is a production of I Heart

966
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: Radio and Protozoa Pictures. It's hosted by me Ethan Nadelman.

967
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: It's produced by noa'm osband and Josh Stain. The executive

968
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:32,280
Speaker 1: producers are Dylan Golden, Ari Handel, Elizabeth Geesus and Darren

969
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: Aronofsky from Protozoa Pictures, Alex Williams and Matt Frederick from

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Speaker 1: my Heart Radio and me Ethan Nadelman. Our music is

971
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: by Ari Blucien and a special thanks to Avi Brio,

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Speaker 1: s F Bianca Grimshaw and Robert BP. Next week I'll

973
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Speaker 1: be talking with Chris Killer. He's the samed medicine hunter

974
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: who has explored plant medicines all around the world. For decades,

975
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Speaker 1: we'll be talking about cava, the plant medicine from South

976
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: Pacific that's making its way around the world. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've sat a couple of times and these magnificent cava

978
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: ceremonies and drinking this insanely strong cova they called stone cava,

979
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: which is minced with a coral head so that you

980
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: rupture every last cell of this really fibrous cava root,

981
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: giving every little bit of the relaxing compounds out there

982
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Speaker 1: and into the water. And you know, it's magical. It's

983
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: just plain magical, a breathtaking li so and then you

984
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: go out underneath the stars and you get a sense

985
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Speaker 1: of the the absolute tiny nous of us and the

986
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: absolute gigantic nature of everything else. Subscribe to Cycleactive now

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Speaker 1: see you don't miss it.