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Speaker 1: for joining us for the OTP from Indianapolis. That's right,

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five NFL scouting Combine has begun and

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Speaker 1: we are so happy to be here. Rett Brian is here,

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Speaker 1: Coach Mac is here, Ramon Foster is here, and we've

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Speaker 1: got tons of coverage all week long. And to start

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Speaker 1: we have Titans head coach Brian Callahan. Coach Callahan, so

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Speaker 1: great to have you here on the OTP from sunny Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing this morning?

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Speaker 2: Fantastic? Thank you, Thank you for asking.

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Speaker 1: We're glad to have you here. But we've got to

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Speaker 1: start out by asking about your process and how you're

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Speaker 1: approaching the combine, the evaluation process, all of that a

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Speaker 1: little bit differently a year or two from your rookie season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just a little bit more clarity on how

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Speaker 2: it all works and how it's all going to fit together.

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Speaker 2: All the things that come up for a head coach

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Speaker 2: over the course of an off season, you've sort of

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Speaker 2: been through once already, so there's a there's a comfort

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Speaker 2: level in the and how it's going to how it operates,

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Speaker 2: and then there's an excitement for what's to come. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm excited about about the process we're in right now

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Speaker 2: and chance to improve the football team.

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Speaker 1: Offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator consistent this year Nick Holts,

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Speaker 1: Dinard Wilson still part of the team. How beneficial is

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Speaker 1: that consistency as you begin the evaluation process, knowing what

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Speaker 1: they like, what they don't like, that sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's huge. Anytime that you can have continuity on

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Speaker 2: your staff and with the people you're working with, it

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Speaker 2: allows you to keep building on the things that you started.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we've got a lot of work to do,

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Speaker 2: and having the same people in the same processes in

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Speaker 2: two phases of the game are really helpful. And I'll

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Speaker 2: say this, one of the things that you learned first

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Speaker 2: year and going through it is you really get a

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Speaker 2: better feel for your football team. You know, this time

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Speaker 2: last year, I hadn't met hardly any of the players.

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Speaker 2: Your first experience with most of them is in the

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Speaker 2: off season program and then you kind of go through

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Speaker 2: it together through the course of the season. And at

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Speaker 2: this point right now, I feel so much better about

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Speaker 2: knowing what our team is and where we have to

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Speaker 2: go and the things that we need to get better.

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Speaker 1: You had a lot of production from young players in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Is that coloring the way that you're

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Speaker 1: evaluating talent right now, either knowing that you have a

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Speaker 1: lot of young guys on your team who have a

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Speaker 1: find more young guys because there's a real chance they're

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Speaker 1: going to be contributing in twenty five and beyond.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's both. You know, we had some

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Speaker 2: young players play pretty significant roles, and that's exciting. Anytime

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Speaker 2: you have young guys developing and playing well and getting

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Speaker 2: better over the course of the season, that's a good thing.

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Speaker 2: That's what you want, and we're going to have to

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Speaker 2: add more and that's the way that the league works.

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Speaker 2: And your young players are really your life blood, your

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Speaker 2: and play at a high level, the better off we're

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Speaker 2: going to be. And and again we're gonnadd another rookie

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Speaker 2: class and another class of free agency, and that's what

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Speaker 2: we're hoping for, is is the young players continue to

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Speaker 3: Brian and I want to go back to the coaching

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Speaker 3: staff in this You were able to bring in John

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Speaker 3: Fossil in that third phase. Got to be exciting, one

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Speaker 3: to take that third phase for the Titans in a

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Speaker 3: place that hadn't been in before.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that was the exciting part about having Bones,

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Speaker 2: the league is you know, he doesn't come available very often,

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Speaker 2: And his reputation precedes him. He's obviously very well regarded,

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Speaker 3: And this time of year ago you had just hired

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Speaker 3: of the players. Now you've got your footing. You've been

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Speaker 3: this You talked in your pressers at the end of

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Speaker 3: the year about the nervous system of players. I know

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Speaker 3: that started the Senior Bowl, But what does someone like yourself,

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Speaker 2: That's a huge part of this process right now is

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Speaker 2: we all have the tape. We've evaluated tape where we've

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Speaker 2: you know, that process has been ongoing. You know, our

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Speaker 2: our area scouts are evaluating the tape. You know, we've

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Speaker 2: our scouting staff has been in there for whatever it is,

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Speaker 2: almost three weeks watching tape, trying to get ready to

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Speaker 2: the process, right just evaluating the tape But then there's

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Speaker 2: another really significant part of it, which really starts now,

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Speaker 2: is finding out about the person. You know, what makes

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Speaker 2: them tick? Well, how do they view the game of football?

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Speaker 2: How do they fit for our team? Because sometimes there's

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Speaker 2: for somebody else and vice versa. And that's what this

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Speaker 2: next stretch of weeks is between now and the draft

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Speaker 2: is all those in person touch points, the thirty visits,

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Speaker 2: things are now more focused on finding out more about

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Speaker 2: In that part, I think is also a really significant

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Speaker 4: So if speaking of that, that's why I was headed.

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Speaker 4: Is when you get those guys, specifically the quarterbacks in

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Speaker 4: you engage with them to figure out what works for

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Speaker 4: you and your system and also put the nard on

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Speaker 2: The ball too.

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Speaker 4: Do you like to see a reaction on a question

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Speaker 2: Answer sometimes, Yeah, that's all part of it. It's you're

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Speaker 2: How do they react under under pressure, whether it's UH

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Speaker 2: but you do you try to have you try to

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Speaker 2: have enough things where you can try to peel back

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Speaker 2: to see what the reactions are and how they can operate.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute in a meeting room doing these interviews,

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Speaker 1: Are you good cop or bad cop?

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Speaker 2: I'm generally more of the observing and I and I

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Speaker 2: interject one necessary uh. I tell you our assistant coaches

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Speaker 2: even as way, we had a bunch of them last night.

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Speaker 2: And we do a lot of film work in these

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Speaker 2: unscripted answers where you haven't talked about their tape and

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Speaker 2: good and bad plays, and there's always funny when you

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Speaker 2: kind of put their head down, just like you.

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Speaker 4: No, That's the reason I asked them because I'm trying

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Speaker 4: to explain to people the tape is the tape as

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Speaker 4: it pertains to what you cause. Know, the ability to

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Speaker 4: it's like no. It's when I was going to my

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Speaker 4: was like, how did you notice, Like when we the

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Speaker 4: questions we actually at the combine, you guys are yes, Amy,

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Speaker 4: they are sick inside of.

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Speaker 2: It is that's all part of it. It's a part

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Speaker 2: have a lot of interviews to go, but they do

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Speaker 2: what why did you make this mistake? What is this?

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Speaker 2: What kind of effort is this here? And you just

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Speaker 2: you get a feel for how they answer those questions,

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Speaker 2: And then you get some good ones in there too.

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Speaker 2: You just talk and then you have them talk technique

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Speaker 2: and scheme, and it's just an easy way to really

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Speaker 2: just jump right into it because it's hard to it's

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Speaker 2: hard to bluff the tape, right. You can't lie about

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Speaker 2: what's happening on the tape. So you put guys in

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Speaker 2: how they respond. So oursistant coaches so far have done

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Speaker 2: to the rest of them. They're fun.

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Speaker 1: How is evaluating quarterbacks different from evaluating every other position

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Speaker 1: on the field.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's just because it's such an important position. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's so many more things that go into that position

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Speaker 2: other than just being able to throw football. You know

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Speaker 2: a lot of guys over the years look good throwing

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Speaker 2: I thought I could throw football in short it's pretty

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Speaker 2: good too. Sometimes, you know, it's just there's just so

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Speaker 2: much more of the position and how you play it,

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Speaker 2: and it's really really hard to evaluate. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: hard to know those things. That's why you see the

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Speaker 2: varying degrees of success and drafting quarterbacks over the years

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Speaker 2: is that it's not an exact science, and it's it's

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Speaker 2: challenging to get all the things you need to know

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Speaker 2: prior to a selection, and then you find out even

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Speaker 2: more when they get to the NFL. There's just so

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Speaker 2: many things that you have to look at that's just

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Speaker 2: different than any other position. You know, there's certain things

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Speaker 2: in other positions you go, yep, I know this guy

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Speaker 2: can rush pastward. That's he's gonna be able to do

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Speaker 2: that at the same level he did in colleges. He's

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. There's just so much more to the

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Speaker 2: the process, and that's what makes it really challenging because

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's some good there's some good players in

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Speaker 4: See, finally people will start listening to offensive line and

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Speaker 2: we'll fit them to the system. There's enough football players

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Speaker 4: That does that type of stuff right there matter if

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Speaker 2: I think there's always a weight to quarterbacks. Okay, there's

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Speaker 4: With that also, I tell people most time to combine

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Speaker 4: You mentioned having that type of gout though too. I've

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's all part of the when you

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Speaker 2: it is is the personality, how they relate. What I

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Speaker 2: So yeah, there's a lot of quarterbacks that have that

436
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Speaker 2: outward bravado. But then you got to find out if

437
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Speaker 2: it's really how they are in general. I mean maybe

438
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Speaker 2: maybe it's not. And that's that's our job, is to

439
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Speaker 2: find out where the where the line is because I

440
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Speaker 2: think what's most important when it comes to that particular

441
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Speaker 2: part of it is the the quarterbacks confidence? Does it

442
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Speaker 2: show up on does it show up on the field

443
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Speaker 2: and on the tape as opposed to what they say.

444
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Speaker 2: I think that's an important part. But yeah, there's there's

445
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Speaker 2: a there's an element of the makeup that you're trying

446
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Speaker 2: to break through what is what is real and what isn't.

447
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Speaker 2: But one thing I always I've always maintained this is

448
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Speaker 2: that if that's who you are, be that all the time.

449
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Speaker 2: That's yeah, if that's if that's your personality, then be that.

450
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Speaker 2: And that to me means more. Is that is that,

451
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Speaker 2: is that that who you are on a day to

452
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Speaker 2: day basis, then then be that and and we can

453
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Speaker 2: we can all accept that. But it's the ones where

454
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Speaker 2: it's not they don't match up that you got.

455
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Speaker 4: To that's the worst teammate. That's the worst teammate right there,

456
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Speaker 4: to be honest with you, is just like this guy

457
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Speaker 4: is outwarding and everybody perceives him to be the great leader,

458
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Speaker 4: and his teammates hate him. I've had guys like that.

459
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Speaker 2: No, that's a real thing. It's at all positions. It's

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Speaker 2: not just a quarterback then.

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Speaker 4: No, Yeah, and don't let it be the quarterback like

462
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Speaker 4: that's That's the reason I ask those questions because a

463
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Speaker 4: lot of with these guys, as you can particularly pick,

464
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Speaker 4: a lot comes with them and the city being able

465
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Speaker 4: to embrace that, but also you walk in if you

466
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Speaker 4: still stay and pick at the number one spot, that's

467
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Speaker 4: a lot of oz and being able to handle that,

468
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Speaker 4: I think is a huge important part of this job.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a quarterback that you know, that number one

470
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Speaker 2: pick is a whole different world. You know, there's a

471
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Speaker 2: whole set of expectation and pressure that comes with that.

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Speaker 2: That's not just the twelfth overall pick. You know, I

473
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Speaker 2: look at it this way. You look at Bonnicks, right,

474
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Speaker 2: Bonicks gets drafted where they get drafted twelve, So that's

475
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Speaker 2: way different than Kathy Williams at number one. And there's

476
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Speaker 2: just a different set of expectations and pressures. And that's

477
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Speaker 2: you know, a lot of guys think they can handle

478
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Speaker 2: that until they're in it, and so you have to

479
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Speaker 2: you have to try to determine the best you can.

480
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Speaker 2: It's hard to know that is how does that? How

481
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Speaker 2: do they handle that part of it too? So the

482
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Speaker 2: best thing I can the best way to answer is,

483
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Speaker 2: like consistency of personality is important and if be who

484
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Speaker 2: you are, but be that all the time, I think

485
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Speaker 2: that's the that's the best, the biggest takeaway I think

486
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Speaker 2: you can you can bring from that.

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Speaker 3: But Brian, the football character is where that is in

488
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Speaker 3: case too, because that's got to be way up on

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Speaker 3: the list. How much do you love the game? How

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Speaker 3: much do you love your teammates and the organization, how

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Speaker 3: all that works.

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Speaker 2: I would say it's really difficult to play quarterback at

493
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Speaker 2: a at a high level if that's not how you feel,

494
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Speaker 2: because there's just so much goes into it and it's

495
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Speaker 2: such a hard it's such an unforgiving position, and it's

496
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Speaker 2: such a hard position to prepare and play that if

497
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Speaker 2: you don't have you know, the league humbles you quickly.

498
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Speaker 2: You can get humbled very quickly, and and you have

499
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Speaker 2: to have that approach that that you're going to do

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Speaker 2: everything possible to be great at your job. Uh and

501
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Speaker 2: you have to love that process because it's hard enough

502
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Speaker 2: as it is, and then you add the pressure playing

503
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Speaker 2: quarterback on top of it and performing it's just a

504
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Speaker 2: it's just a different quarterbacks, just different it's a different

505
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Speaker 2: set of pressures that apply to those guys, and you

506
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Speaker 2: have to have to love playing football, otherwise it's too hard, man,

507
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Speaker 2: it's the hardest position. You have to have a real

508
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Speaker 2: love for what it takes to play the position.

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Speaker 4: All I've heard is a lot of justification of why

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Speaker 4: the quarterback get paid so much.

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Speaker 2: We didn't come here for that. Right.

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Speaker 4: Tackles are important too, okay, love, guards are important to the.

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Speaker 2: Cat keeps going up, that money keeps going up. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: I mean did you ever think you're going to when

515
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Speaker 2: you finished playing? You see guards making twenty twenty plus minutes?

516
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Speaker 2: No guards? No, we were the guard position.

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Speaker 4: We're just talking ball. Was just oh, you're just a

518
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Speaker 4: cover up for the tackle, or hey have you got

519
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Speaker 4: a really good center? You just a trinket to them.

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Speaker 4: And now with the emergence of a Jeff Simmons of

521
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Speaker 4: it to Vondrix, what a Aaron Donald the interior pass rush,

522
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Speaker 4: they've realized that that guy left guard, that guy right

523
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Speaker 4: guard matters man a lot, and uh, it's good to

524
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Speaker 4: see it. I will say that to us. I'm a

525
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Speaker 4: reunion guy too.

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Speaker 2: So I love saying great. I love seeing guys get

527
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Speaker 2: paid the.

528
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Speaker 4: Florida million dollars real quick too. Since I got you,

529
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Speaker 4: I got to ask you about a guard in particularly

530
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Speaker 4: you have the ability to shop in free agency or

531
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Speaker 4: retain in the house. That's something that you guys have

532
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Speaker 4: said too. Uh. Borganzhia said that Chad has said that also.

533
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Speaker 4: You guys shared that same sentiment. What's the idea of

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Speaker 4: I'll just actually this because free agency is a part

535
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Speaker 4: of it. How do you feel the guy like Dylan

536
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Speaker 4: Raiding's has done over the year that you've seen him,

537
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Speaker 4: his role that he's had to play.

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Speaker 2: You know, I thought he really had for for the

539
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Speaker 2: first time in his career, had an opportunity to sort

540
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Speaker 2: of sink his teeth into playing guard. And I thought

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Speaker 2: as the year went on, he played better and better.

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Speaker 2: I was really pleased with I thought he was probably

543
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Speaker 2: of the guys up front, he's probably the most improved player.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's the one that played at a you know,

545
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Speaker 2: the level that you were hoping to see, and he

546
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Speaker 2: got better his year went along. So you know, that'll

547
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Speaker 2: be it'll be interesting to see what his more market.

548
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's certainly a free agent, and those are

549
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Speaker 2: things that will come up here in the next couple

550
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Speaker 2: of weeks. But as far as his performance and his improvement.

551
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Speaker 2: I thought he really improve over the course of the season.

552
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Speaker 4: Definitely.

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Speaker 1: We know that free agency is around the corner as well.

554
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of just conversation swirling around the Tennessee Titans.

555
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Speaker 1: Between the first pick and the draft, You're being connected

556
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Speaker 1: to every quarterback, both in the draft and in free

557
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Speaker 1: agency that's ever existed. There's just a lot of conversation

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Speaker 1: right now around this team. How do you navigate all

559
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Speaker 1: of that, all of the attention that's being put on

560
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Speaker 1: this club and what needs to happen in the next

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Speaker 1: weeks and months.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have. We got to work cut out for us.

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Speaker 2: You know, We've got a lot of work to do.

564
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Speaker 2: We got to nail it too, you know, we got

565
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Speaker 2: to keep hitting in these player acquisition cycles, in the

566
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Speaker 2: draft and free agency. It's an important part if we

567
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Speaker 2: want to keep getting our team better. And it's not

568
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Speaker 2: lost on me. I'm very aware of it all. You know.

569
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Speaker 2: I understand the magnitude of the position we're in and

570
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Speaker 2: why we're getting the attention we're getting. I'd prefer not

571
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Speaker 2: to to have that particular attention because you know, again

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Speaker 2: I said it before, I don't like being first in

573
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Speaker 2: the draft. That means that we didn't we weren't good

574
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Speaker 2: enough this year, and so we got to keep getting better,

575
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Speaker 2: both as coaches and players, and then we got to

576
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Speaker 2: keep adding the right pieces. So at the end of

577
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Speaker 2: the day, the attention is good for the general organization

578
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Speaker 2: and for our you know, you want people to see

579
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Speaker 2: what we're doing and then you hope that we knock

580
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Speaker 2: it out of the park and people are excited about

581
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Speaker 2: how we've won about the process. So that's the best

582
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Speaker 2: way I can say it is that it's it's just

583
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Speaker 2: it's it comes with the territory. Thankfully. I've been in

584
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Speaker 2: this position before and I've kind of seen how the

585
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Speaker 2: ups and downs of the off season when you're in

586
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Speaker 2: this spot, so I have a little bit of fel

587
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Speaker 2: how to navigate it. But yeah, there's a there's a

588
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Speaker 2: lot of eyes on us, and and you know, we

589
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Speaker 2: we have to do a good job with with the

590
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Speaker 2: position we've been been given. We earned this position, unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: but we have to do a great job with the opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Well, Brian Callahan, we know you are the busiest man

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, so we're gonna let you go, but thank

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Speaker 1: you for taking some time with us.

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Speaker 2: Sure, absolutely. Thanks good sitting down. It's good way to

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Speaker 2: start today.

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Speaker 1: back to the OTP. Mike Bergonzi. We are so excited

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Speaker 1: to have you here on the OTP from sunny Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for taking the time with us.

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Speaker 5: Thank you excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: You are the general manager of the Tennessee Titans. You

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Speaker 1: have the first pick in the NFL draft. Are you

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Speaker 1: the most popular man at the combine here?

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Speaker 5: I think so for the way my phone's been bringing

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Speaker 5: the last couple of weeks. But it's an exciting time.

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Speaker 5: It's exciting time for the looganzation to have the first

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Speaker 5: pick right now. And you know, we've we've been working

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Speaker 5: now for the for the past month with the staff,

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Speaker 5: you know, evaluating the college and free agency right now.

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Speaker 5: So it's certainly an exciting time and getting to know

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Speaker 5: the staff here over the last month it has been great.

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Speaker 1: This is the place where a lot of those seeds

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Speaker 1: are planted, so a lot of conversations are happening, not

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Speaker 1: only about trades or player evaluations or things like that,

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Speaker 1: but also about some free agency thing. How many of

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Speaker 1: the seeds that are planted right now are going to

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Speaker 1: turn into moves that we see in draft weekend and

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Speaker 1: in free agency.

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Speaker 5: So we've gone through the process of evaluating these free

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Speaker 5: agents for the past month here with the staff, and really,

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Speaker 5: you know, they give us that negotiation window here and

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Speaker 5: in a couple of weeks and we'll have a chance

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Speaker 5: to sit down and talk with some of the agents

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Speaker 5: there at that point. But certainly there's a lot of

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Speaker 5: buzz around here. You know, it's you've worked in the

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Speaker 5: league long enough, and you know, you know a lot

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Speaker 5: of the people that work in the league, so you

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Speaker 5: start to pick up information. You know, this is like

639
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Speaker 5: an information gathering session here for everything for the players

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Speaker 5: and information and free agency, so you get.

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Speaker 1: It all here. Is it hard to navigate being in

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Speaker 1: charge of both friends, this is your first time doing this?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I'm lucky that I have a good staff

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Speaker 5: right now, you know, you know, with Chad who have

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Speaker 5: known for years, and we made some new hires with

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Speaker 5: Dave Ziggler and Regie McKenzie, which have been a huge

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Speaker 5: help to me. Both people have sat in that chair before,

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Speaker 5: so there really been a big help for me just

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Speaker 5: navigating these these this first month and a half. Here

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Speaker 5: some job.

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Speaker 6: Mike, let's talk about let's go back a minute when

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Speaker 6: you were hired and Chad had put out there and

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Speaker 6: it resonated with me very very quickly. You're going to

654
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Speaker 6: dark February now, kind of feel us in let let

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Speaker 6: the ot people kind of. I've lived that in my

656
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Speaker 6: career twice, so I know what you were talking about.

657
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Speaker 6: Kind of give us an idea of what that was.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's early mornings and late nights, so you really

659
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Speaker 5: don't say the daylight. So I mean we're we're we

660
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,719
Speaker 5: were in there grinding from seven am to seven pm

661
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Speaker 5: on the college on the college on the draft, and

662
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Speaker 5: then you know after that we were meeting on free

663
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Speaker 5: agents probably till about midnight. So you know, you literally

664
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Speaker 5: don't have a minute during the day. And if I

665
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Speaker 5: did have a minute, I had to call my wife

666
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Speaker 5: at that point. But you have all these people calling

667
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Speaker 5: you and and you try to tell them, you know,

668
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Speaker 5: we're going dark right now. That's that's what we tell them.

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Speaker 5: It's that dark phase. So you know, we went through

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Speaker 5: it for a few weeks. But you have to go

671
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Speaker 5: through that process. I think it's the only way to

672
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Speaker 5: do it, to really dive, you know, in on the tape,

673
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Speaker 5: have conversations with the scouts about it and and that's

674
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Speaker 5: and that's where you feel like it's a collaborative process

675
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Speaker 5: when you're a room with everybody together and you're discussing

676
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Speaker 5: these players and you want to make the best decision

677
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Speaker 5: for the Titans. So I think that's the only that's

678
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Speaker 5: the only way I've done it, and I think it's it.

679
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Speaker 5: You have to do it.

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Speaker 2: You have to go through that process.

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Speaker 6: As I said, thank you for doing for explaining that,

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Speaker 6: because I've lived that, you know, twice in my career,

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Speaker 6: and it is it's so time in intensive. It's very

684
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Speaker 6: time sensitive also, so you've got to plan out and

685
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Speaker 6: you know, people hear this and say, you know, well

686
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Speaker 6: we're there from seven in the morning until midnight. Yeah, sure,

687
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Speaker 6: that's the truth. I mean you had food brought in too, right.

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Speaker 5: We did. Yeah, see he didn't food We didn't know.

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Speaker 5: And the cafeteria did a great job of providing us

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Speaker 5: food throughout the meetings as well, and of course we're

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Speaker 5: snacking all day, so I.

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Speaker 2: Got some workouts to catch up on. Well, thank you

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Speaker 2: for that.

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Speaker 6: I mean that enlightens the people a little bit about

695
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Speaker 6: what really goes on when you get a hold of

696
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Speaker 6: one of these things and you're brand new and trying

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Speaker 6: to bring everybody together.

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Speaker 3: Mike, and now that you're back into the light of

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Speaker 3: this out of dark February, I want I want you

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Speaker 3: to speak to us here on the excitement level that

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Speaker 3: you have as first time general manager and your confidence

702
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Speaker 3: in the level of preparedness that you are in this

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Speaker 3: next phase this week at the combine here in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm I'm tremendously excited about being in this position

705
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Speaker 5: here and aft that I'm working with. So you go

706
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Speaker 5: through the process, you know, that's going through their dark

707
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 5: process where you're watching the film the whole time, and

708
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 5: now we're kind of out in the light here. So

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Speaker 5: now we get to meet these players now here this

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Speaker 5: next process, get to sit down and interview them. For

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Speaker 5: a lot of us, a lot of the juniors you

712
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 5: know that we had they weren't an All Star games,

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Speaker 5: So you get to sit down with them and interview

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Speaker 5: them and answer any questions that you might have about them.

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Speaker 5: And then it's an opportunity to get the coaches involved

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Speaker 5: now with the two So during those interviews, the coaches

717
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Speaker 5: are sitting in on them and going through tape with them.

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Speaker 5: They'll make a cut up tape and they'll ask them questions.

719
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Speaker 5: So now we're trying to drill down on the football

720
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Speaker 5: intelligence piece of it as well. So this is this

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Speaker 5: is a you know, one of the touch points here

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Speaker 5: throughout the offseason, but it's a it's a big one

723
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Speaker 5: because this is the first opportunity we really get to

724
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Speaker 5: sit down and talk with these guys, talk football with them,

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Speaker 5: talk about their background and any questions that we might

726
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Speaker 5: have they came up in their background as well. And

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Speaker 5: then we'll have this next month here of pro Day's

728
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Speaker 5: thirty day visits, potential private workouts. So really this is

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Speaker 5: the start of it.

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Speaker 6: Though, talk to us a little bit about when you're

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Speaker 6: in these face to face meetings here, which is huge,

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Speaker 6: I mean it's huge for everybody. Do you use point

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Speaker 6: of attack tapes? Do your coaches put these together? Your

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Speaker 6: scouting group put these together? How does that work? How

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Speaker 6: much tape do you employ? In that eighteen minute segment,

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Speaker 6: we got them, So we wanted to get the coaches

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Speaker 6: to put the tape together so they could ask the

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Speaker 6: questions when they really drill down on it.

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Speaker 5: So there'll be some good plays and there'll be some

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Speaker 5: bad plays that maybe we have questions on. And so

741
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Speaker 5: we gave them a list of players a few weeks

742
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Speaker 5: ago when we first got here. They made a caught

743
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Speaker 5: up tape, so were in those interviews. It's eighteen minutes.

744
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Speaker 5: So if we don't have any background information, any questions

745
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 5: that we need answered, we hand it right over to

746
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Speaker 5: the coaches to really drill down on some of the

747
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Speaker 5: some of the football intelligence and questions that they might

748
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Speaker 5: have when they're watching the tape. It's a great opportunity,

749
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Speaker 5: even though it's eighteen minutes you can get you can

750
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Speaker 5: get good information out of those eighteen minutes to really

751
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Speaker 5: see if a player really has a foundation of the

752
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Speaker 5: football knowledge that they really need to at the next level.

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Speaker 6: It makes me excited just listen to you talk about it.

754
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Speaker 6: I'm already starting to miss doing that kind I miss

755
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Speaker 6: that I can go sit in Lucas Oil all watch.

756
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Speaker 6: But that stuff is what's important.

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Speaker 5: It gets the juices going on.

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Speaker 1: Well, and Mack, I think that that's kind of what

759
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Speaker 1: we're learning over time here is that, Yes, the measurements

760
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Speaker 1: and the physical evaluation is incredibly important, the medical is

761
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Speaker 1: incredibly important. But the human interaction and getting to understand

762
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Speaker 1: who these guys are, what makes them tick, and what

763
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Speaker 1: they're seeing when they look at a play or a

764
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Speaker 1: board or something like that, that's really the meat of

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Speaker 1: what this week is able to provide.

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Speaker 5: Right, Yes, I mean the testing and the measurements and

767
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Speaker 5: all that stuff, it's great. It really just validates what

768
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Speaker 5: you try to see on film really to a standpoint,

769
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Speaker 5: and then it could create some red flags. You may

770
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Speaker 5: have to go back and watch a person if they

771
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Speaker 5: didn't run a certain way or or or performer drill

772
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Speaker 5: a certain way. Kind of gives you that kind of

773
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Speaker 5: red flag system. But really, to sit down, the hardest

774
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Speaker 5: part about this process to me is the hardest thing

775
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 5: is to try to predict human behavior. Right, That's the

776
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 5: hardest part about this process, any hiring cycle for any organization.

777
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Speaker 5: So that's that's the important part here is we're really

778
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 5: trying to get to know the player on a personal

779
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Speaker 5: level and also how much football knowledge they have as well.

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Speaker 3: Mike, when you're talking about it being a people business,

781
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 3: dealing with people, there's no exact science. You've just pointed

782
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Speaker 3: that out, But are there moments where it could be

783
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Speaker 3: body language could be something a prospect says, But how

784
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Speaker 3: do you how do you know when a guy has

785
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Speaker 3: that football character you're looking for a titan that that

786
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Speaker 3: that they absolutely love the game, there'll be a good teammate.

787
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Speaker 3: How does that? How does that work?

788
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Speaker 5: So that goes back years now with our area of

789
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 5: scouts are going in talking to their sources in the

790
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 5: school and building a profile on this player personal character,

791
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 5: football character. And then once they get that profile together,

792
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 5: you know, we start to drill down on a little

793
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 5: bit more. We might make phone calls to coach at

794
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 5: the school. At that point, if I have a relationship

795
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 5: with someone at a school, I'll call them. So it's

796
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 5: really a team effort when we're trying to really figure

797
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 5: out the player. But that process really starts years in

798
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 5: advance when you're trying to build that profile of the player,

799
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Speaker 5: and then you have these different touch points. This is

800
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Speaker 5: the first one thirty day visit. You know, we might

801
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 5: go out to a pro day, we might go out

802
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 5: to a private workout. So all these different touch points

803
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 5: is where we want to drill down this person really

804
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 5: love football? Are they a good person? And do they

805
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 5: love the game of football. That's what we're trying to

806
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 5: figure out.

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Speaker 1: When coach Callahan brought in his coaching staff in twenty

808
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Speaker 1: twenty four, one of the very first things that they

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Speaker 1: did was they established blueprints by position of what a

810
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Speaker 1: titan looks like, measurables, they had performance characteristics, they had

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Speaker 1: all of these different things. Is that something that you've

812
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: worked with him to refine a little bit to say

813
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: at each position, this is what a Tennessee Titan looks like.

814
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 5: So that's a good question. We actually during our lunch break,

815
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 5: we didn't have much time during these meetings, I would

816
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 5: sit down with the staff and every day was a

817
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 5: different position and we would go we go down the

818
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 5: whole list and talk about the players that are currently

819
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 5: on the team, but then also what they look for

820
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 5: in each position, Like you just said, measurables, and we

821
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 5: have a profile that we use in our scouting and

822
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Speaker 5: the most important thing is to make sure we're on

823
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Speaker 5: the same page of these players fitting the system and

824
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 5: we bring it in the right type of people that

825
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 5: fit their system on offense, defense, special teams. So for

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Speaker 5: the past three weeks we've been meeting with coaches going

827
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Speaker 5: over all that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike Bergonzi, we know that you're a busy man.

829
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Speaker 1: You're the prettiest girl in the room right now, so

830
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Speaker 1: we're gonna let you go and just we know you

831
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Speaker 1: have a lot of work ahead of you. So thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for taking some time.

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Speaker 5: With Thanks for having me on great Thank you.

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