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Speaker 1: Already swimming upstream episode sixty one. I am not joining

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Speaker 1: with Alex Corvern with Eli Sussman pinch hitting for Alex today.

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Speaker 1: But we have a very very special guest on. We

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Speaker 1: have Jacob Marcy of the Pensacola Blue Wah, who's recently

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Speaker 1: acquired in the Luisa Rias trade, one of the three

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Speaker 1: players acquired four players acquired in that trade. Jacob, what's up?

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Speaker 1: Welcome first of all to fish On First, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to I guess Tomorrow's organization. We're very excited to have

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Speaker 1: you here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: So we need to start with a few things about

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Speaker 3: the trade itself. All about a full month ago. You

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Speaker 3: news could just take us through who told you about

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Speaker 3: it and hollowed the rest of your new went from there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I had just gotten out and I was coming

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Speaker 4: looking at me weird, And I was like something, something's

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Speaker 4: going on. Either they're like mad at me for some reason,

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Speaker 4: and I'm coming out of the game because I heard

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Speaker 4: him say like, well, who's gonna play outfield? And then

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Speaker 4: tell the manager that they need to get Mortoroll out

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Speaker 2: So I went over to him.

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Speaker 4: It was like, like, who, where's he going? Where's he

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Speaker 4: getting traded to? Because like I just obviously I knew

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Speaker 4: what was going on at that point, and he was like,

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Speaker 4: are we going? And he told me Miami. So I

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Speaker 4: was just pretty pumped. And then obviously change a turn

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Speaker 2: But it's been good since then.

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Speaker 3: And the moment kind of went viral from from Martorella

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Speaker 3: was on the second vase. So where were you when

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Speaker 3: that exchange happened? Were you in the dugout or were

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Speaker 3: you already like back in the clubhouse or something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I was in the dugout that I was

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Speaker 2: So that makes it a lot easier.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And one more thing on that you found out

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Speaker 3: out it was in exchange for Louisa Rise? How does

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Speaker 3: that change your reaction to the deal when you figure

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Speaker 3: way for this all star player in the prime of

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Speaker 3: his career. How does that change the way that you

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Speaker 3: like think about it considering that you're involved in something

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think in general, just knowing a

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Speaker 4: team wants to by trading for you is super exciting.

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Speaker 4: But then for it to be for a guy like

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Speaker 4: just because how good of a player is and they're

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Speaker 4: it means a lot. So it definitely made it exciting

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Speaker 4: knowing that they wanted me over here.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel maybe any added pressure knowing the type

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Speaker 1: of player Leise Rises? You know, two time batting champs,

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Speaker 1: Do you feel any pressure knowing that you know that's

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Speaker 1: the player you were traded for.

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Speaker 4: No, Honestly, like, I don't ever put pressure on myself.

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Speaker 4: I just try to be the best version of myself.

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Speaker 4: And clearly they saw something they liked in the way

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Speaker 4: I played the game. So I always play with the

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Speaker 4: chip on my shoulder in general. So I think just

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Speaker 4: it just feels the fire a little bit more. But

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Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't put any pressure on myself.

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Speaker 4: I just try to be me every day.

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Speaker 1: Been here for about a month now. Just have you

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Speaker 1: spoken any of the front office members? Peter, maybe Gabe

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Speaker 4: My agent has talked to them, I think a little

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Speaker 4: bit more than I have. I've only talked to Rachel

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Speaker 4: I think they're just trying to let me be and

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Speaker 4: not putting any pressure on me or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: Now, diving through your history, not just in the minors,

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Speaker 3: at Central Michigan in summer ball, in rookie ball, in

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Speaker 3: the Fall League. Now at Double A, you draw a

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Speaker 3: lot of walks. It's a really high walk rate. You're

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Speaker 3: always at like fourteen percent or higher, even higher this

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Speaker 3: a really rare thing to see that kind of consistency

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think I just really take pride

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Speaker 4: take a lot of pride in that too, because just

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Speaker 4: I know as a base runner, I'm way more effective

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Speaker 4: So I'd rather be on first by a walk or

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Speaker 2: So I just I just want to make it as.

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Speaker 4: Hard as possible on that picture, and it just is

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Speaker 2: So it's just something that I've always kind of been doing.

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, I learned a lot in

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Speaker 4: college about really working on that approach and making it better.

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Speaker 1: You know, we spoke a little bit about the offense,

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Speaker 1: so defensively, I believe you've played almost every single game

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Speaker 1: in center field. Just talk to us a little bit

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Speaker 1: about how much pride you taking your defense, because this

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Speaker 1: at least lacked some center field depth, and you've been

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Speaker 1: able to provide a lot of it. You can play

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Speaker 1: all three outfield spots. Just talk to us a little

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's something that I know that even

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Speaker 4: when I'm not hitting like I can make an impact

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Speaker 2: Really I try to.

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Speaker 4: I try to go out there and MVP every day

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Speaker 4: and work on my routes, get the best reads up

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Speaker 4: And that's just something that I've always like take pride

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Speaker 4: just because I know that's something that you can control.

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Speaker 4: Rather hitting, you can you can be hitting good and

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Speaker 4: not get the results, where defense you can always can

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Speaker 3: We're here with Jacob Marsa here on swimming upstream. You

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Speaker 3: may have noticed already it's only been a month since

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Speaker 3: It has been a crazy pitcher friendly league so far

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Speaker 3: this season, a lot of one nothing games in two

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Speaker 3: is that you look at your numbers since coming over, because,

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Speaker 3: like on the surface, if somebody just glances at a

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Speaker 3: far they say you're hitting two twenty two. You have

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Speaker 3: three home runs in the course of a month. But

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Speaker 3: you consider, like the environment that you guys are playing in,

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Speaker 3: the league adjusted numbers for you are great. They say

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Speaker 3: that you've been maybe the best hitter on the team

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Speaker 3: you just see that all these games are low scoring

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Speaker 3: and you can do more? How do you like process

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Speaker 3: playing in a picture friendly league like.

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Speaker 4: This, Yeah, I mean, to be honest, I don't I

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Speaker 4: like this sucks. But like when I was in San

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Speaker 2: So I mean, I'm kind of used to it.

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Speaker 4: I just like try to do what I can and

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Speaker 4: But I definitely think when you look at my numbers

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Speaker 4: this year that it definitely doesn't show how I've actually

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Speaker 4: as far as like, as long as I keep having

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Speaker 2: And that's just what I keep telling myself.

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Speaker 4: Just to keep going having good at bats and helping

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Speaker 4: the team win games, and the numbers will take care

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Speaker 4: not to look at those too much. But it definitely

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Speaker 3: To let it.

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Speaker 1: I guess what were the biggest differences for you from

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Speaker 1: biggest differences you've noticed from I guess that league you

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Speaker 4: I think when you went on the road in San Antonio,

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Speaker 4: So I mean, I've got to spend a lot of

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Speaker 1: Alrighty, So we're gonna wrap it up here with with

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Speaker 1: Jacob Marcy. Jacob, thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate the time. From Jacob Eli myself. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you guys all on the next episode swimming upstream.

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Speaker 2: Peace out and go fished.

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