WEBVTT - Pronatalism 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:07.800 Also media Welcome to it could happen here the only 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:13.120 podcast where anti British discrimination is a way of life? James, 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:15.760 are we allowed to say that? Do you remember the training? 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:18.000 I haven't done yet. 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:21.079 I was giving that training my full attention throughout the 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:23.440 duration of the video. Every single time I've watched It's 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:26.279 good various employees for the last half decade or so, 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:29.560 there was no there was no section on anti British discrimination. 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:35.360 Yet again, another example that victimized. 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:37.640 Last time I took that training, there was a straight 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:39.960 up anti Asian racism in it that they didn't address 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:42.000 at all. So I'm assuming if that's okay, then anti 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:43.560 British racism was fine. 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.159 Like some shit in those videos, which is wild. 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:47.919 Okay, there you go. 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:50.360 I think that's a lady who's literally called Karen and 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:52.960 they do her wrong in the in the in the video. 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:54.920 See I am. 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:58.520 I am definitely pro British discrimination. But you do get 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:02.880 a point for having Peter O'Toole, so at least it's 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:05.840 it's it's not all the way because the o'tool factor 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.480 keeps you from the full might of my wrath. 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:13.120 Frankly, go, yeah, I'm sure that's the case. 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:16.080 I'm Garson Davis and joined by Mia Wong, James Stubven, 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:19.720 and Robert Evans. This episode, we are talking about babies. 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:21.039 Should there be more? 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:21.759 Yeah? 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:22.360 M hmm. 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.200 We're on a pro natalist kick. We're going to have 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:28.680 that off putting couple who look like vampires but like 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:32.920 not any of the good kinds on the show. Very 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:36.039 excited to have those people on. They seem nice. But 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:38.920 before we do that, we all decided maybe we should 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.800 talk about other pro natalist policies in world history and 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:44.600 how well they've worked generally. 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:49.880 We're going to start by talking about what the US 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:53.880 policy might be, or that the people proposing US policy, 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:59.080 and then we will discuss how those policies went historically. 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.360 Yeah, so like to start with Trumps. 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:07.240 Besides one executive order in February supporting IVF, the new 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:11.480 administration has yet to tackle pro natalist concerns on the 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:16.000 policy front, but a collection of lobbyists, activists, and influencers 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:19.040 are vying for the president's ear while proposing a multitude 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.520 of plans to grow the number of heterosexual marriages and 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:27.720 incentivize childbirth. The pronataists certainly think that the new administration 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:31.359 is at the very least ideologically sympathetic, if not in 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:35.399 cahoots with their agenda. The main inns on the pronatalist 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:38.720 front have come from the Peter Thiel tech right wing 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:41.639 of the White House Right. This is like JD. Vance 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:46.480 and previously Elon Musk. Musk has been doom posting for 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:49.000 years about how a drop in fertility rates could be 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:52.760 leading to a large scale population collapse, and at an 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.919 anti abortion rally this past January, Vance addressed the crowd 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.960 saying quote, I want more babies in the United States 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:02.360 of America, more happy children in our country. And I 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:05.040 want beautiful young men and women who are eager to 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:07.400 welcome them into the world and eager to raise them. 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:08.320 Uh huh. Yeah. 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.280 And you got to like whatever you're listening to one 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.560 of these things, you got to like have a little 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:16.519 parenthesies anytime anytime someone says baby, there's a little parentheses 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.560 there that says white. 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.560 This is this is real Nazi shit. 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:23.400 Like yeah, A lot of this, a lot of the 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:26.639 stuff that's certainly like based on like like great replacement 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.920 rhetoric that the alt right, like Trojan Horst and like 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:33.360 pushed forward in like twenty eighteen, which is now so 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:37.400 widely normalized thanks to I mean really, Musk has done 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:40.720 a lot of work in normalizing great replacement stuff. 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:43.560 Yeah, Tucker calls into Carlson of course. 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:47.160 Well, and Musk's family goes into this, right, like this 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.360 is the kind of thing like his grandparents were involved in. 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:52.280 Like it was a little bit less of like the 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:56.440 standard great replacement shit and a little more like focused 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.440 on like we need to be breeding high IQ white 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:01.000 people together. Yeah, you chant like that, that is that 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:03.520 is what he inherits. He comes by it honestly, I 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:04.280 guess you could say. 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:08.040 Well, and oftentimes printles rhetoric is also tied in with 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:12.080 like the tradwife and like loss of traditional family structure 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:12.720 type stuff. 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:12.880 Right. 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:16.040 Vance has laid blame at childless cat ladies and. 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:20.120 Referred to our quote unquote broken culture that tax masculinity 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:22.760 and turns our nation's youth into androgynous idiots. 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:23.760 Hey shout out. 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:24.599 Yeah. 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.839 I've also started referring to women with kids as catless 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:29.560 child ladies as a result of this. 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:30.760 I think he's. 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:36.040 Reactions action, I don't know, they very negatively. 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:38.799 Robot. 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:43.799 A declining birth rate has also been attributed to women 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:46.920 in the workplace who are not getting married and raising 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:50.800 kids at home from an early enough age, and some 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.000 of this rheteric has rubbed off on Trump right and 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.560 Trump at seapack in twenty twenty three, he said, quote, 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:58.719 we will support baby booms, and we will support baby 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:00.719 bonuses for a new baby boom. 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:03.239 I want a baby boom cool. 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:07.599 Trump has floated a five thousand dollars cash quote unquote 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:11.320 baby bonus to American mothers after delivering a baby, calling 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:12.880 this proposal a good idea. 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.200 Well, Garrison, that's almost three months at a preschool. 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:17.200 Oh yeah, I'm sure that's enough. 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:19.280 Not quite three months at a lot of preschools, like, 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:22.960 not even great pre schools. It's very preschools and unbelievably expensive. 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.400 The actual cause of like of a declining birth rate 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.039 is due to skyrocketing cost of living, so people aren't 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.800 financially stable to have kids in their early twenties anymore, 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:33.520 so instead they're waiting until their thirties. 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:34.960 That's part of it at least. 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:37.440 Yes, if you want people to have kids more, you 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:40.400 should make the world more affordable. And a five thousand 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.520 dollars baby bonist doesn't actually solve the key issues that 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.440 would cause people to be worried about, you know, trying 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.040 to like get buried and have kids at a young 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.120 age in a world where that seems kind of like 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:54.240 unfathomably expensive. Now, luckily Trump does have a few other 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:59.120 ways of sorting of sorting out this problem. The new Big, 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:02.559 Beautiful bud bill that recently passed the House will create 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:07.200 quote unquote Mega savings accounts for new kids. And here 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:12.600 Mega stands for money accounts for growth and in for 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:14.320 growth and advancement. 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.600 Just fucking stop stop it. 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:21.479 So when parents are guardians open a new Mega savings 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:24.400 account for their kids, the federal government will contribute one 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:28.720 thousand dollars for babies born between January first, twenty twenty 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:31.920 four and December thirty first, twenty twenty eight. 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.240 That that'll help, great, great. 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:38.880 I believe California also does it. Yeah, California have something 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:43.560 called the California Child Saving Accounts Program, which already gives 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:45.840 children like up to one thousand dollars. And I think 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.200 it's like a college savings account from what I understand. 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.200 Yeah, that's that's pretty much what this is. Although specifically 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:54.400 in the for the Mega accounts, it also lists home ownership. 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:56.360 Oh cool, because this is like a big This is 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.120 a big part of this pronatalst thing is you need 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.719 to like own a home. We get in a straight marriage, 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:03.400 start having kids in your early twenties. 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:06.400 Yeah, sure, make Instagram videos of yourself chopping would badly 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:07.960 like we understand. 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:08.719 Yeah yeah. 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:12.000 The big beautiful budget bill also prohibits Medicare funds. We're 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:13.480 going to planned parent hut great. 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.040 Yeah, let me tell you, one thousand American dollars, even 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:19.240 with compounding interest, isn't going to do shit to buy 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.040 you a home anywhere in the United States. 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:26.480 Now, the Heritage Foundation's Devasit Center for Life, Religion, and 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:30.960 Family have pushed for a policy that exponentially increases the 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:35.040 child tax credit for each additional child a married couple has. 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:36.680 This is a little bit. 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:38.880 Similar to a policy proposed in twenty twenty three by 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:44.160 Republican Representative Brian Slaton of Texas, who proposed increasing property 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:48.080 tax cuts for married heterosexual couples who have never been 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:52.400 divorced and have four or more children starting after marriage. 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.040 So there's a lot of caveats. 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:59.000 There, Jesus Christy, Yeah, okay, sure, yeah, no, this sign 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:00.920 is are we taking issue with this? 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:04.080 That is some Yeah, this is part of my British 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:07.520 arity trade. We developed our own religion so that dudes 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.360 could get divorced. It is, it is. Yeah, it is 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:11.920 a bill of rights for British guys. 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.320 Obviously a lot of a lot of caveats in there 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:17.720 so that you can have your little like tread Christian family. 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.920 But four kids would equal a forty percent cut. Ten 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.840 kids would equal no property taxes at all. 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:27.080 Well, I mean, shit, that's hard to argue with. Yeah, 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:29.520 this is property taxes. You also have to own the 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:31.680 property to begin with to be paying property tax. 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:33.640 Yeah, all of these yea, all these people want you 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:35.760 to be like homeowners with a stay at homework. 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:37.840 This is like, this is what they want, but they 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.480 don't want to actually do things to meaningfully make home 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:41.360 ownership accessible. 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:43.600 No, this is just like self selecting for like well 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:46.680 off white Christians, right like yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah, 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:50.120 Slaton said in a statement quote, with this bill, Texas 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:53.559 will start saying to couples, get married, stay married, and 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.560 be fruitful and multiply unquote. 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:57.280 For Fox's sake. 0:08:57.840 --> 0:08:58.600 It's a disaster. 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:00.360 And yeah, I mean and like a lot of this 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:02.599 stuff is too is it's this is the sort of 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:06.320 flailing reaction to like one of the things that actually 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:09.719 drives like declining birthrates, which is not having teen pregnancies 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:14.120 like significantly decreases birth rates because it turns out they're like, oh, yeah, right. 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:17.000 It turns out a huge part of like why birthrates 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:21.080 is so high is just direct social coercion. And if 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:24.120 you stop having that or like you know, the amount 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:27.920 of the coercion decreases, then yeah, like fucking birthrates are 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.480 gonna decline because women aren't being forced to have babies 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:32.839 like and you know, and so they're trying to do 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:35.840 all this like you know, unhinged tinkering bullshit to sort 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:39.080 of like deal with the fact that if you don't 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:43.800 force people to have children as teenagers, they won't. 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:47.920 Yeah, because life, they quickly realize there's things in life, 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:54.559 like you know, drugs and stuff. Yeah, they'll go back 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:55.079 to the club. 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:59.720 In March, Trump called himself the quote unquote fertiliz. 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:08.000 They president, and the White House is expected to soon 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:10.839 release a report on how to expand access and affordability 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:15.640 of IVF. Now this is where things get sticky insert pun. 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:19.760 There is hot debate amongst advisors and think tanks on 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:23.600 the religious ethics of ivf Right. There's no real consensus 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:27.400 among the pronatalst voices who are lobbying Trump. This sort 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:30.120 of breaks down into the new tech right versus the 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:34.480 more religious Christian family sector of conservatism, and Vance is 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:36.880 kind of caught in the middle of this, but these 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:41.240 groups may end up compromising to form an alliance. Now Heritage, 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:45.040 the Heritage Foundation recommends a program to use government funds 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:49.320 for education that promotes quote unquote natural fertility, teaching women 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:52.120 how to track their mental cycles using charting courses to 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:57.000 both help get pregnant and avoid using birth control. They 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:01.360 propose that food, nutrition, and lifestyle chain could improve quote 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:06.880 unquote natural conception. Instead of using assisted reproductive technologies, Heritage 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:10.480 proposed to something that they call restorative reproductive medicine as 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:14.760 a holistic approach to treating infertility through quote unquote hoonon 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:20.640 balancing and dieting and nutritional adjustments, environmental changes, and surgery unquote. 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:24.720 Yeah, you just need some fucking uh some of those 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.960 some of those baby teething pills Highlands made that kill babies. 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:29.840 That's that's what you get to take. It's a holistic 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:33.160 approach to you. Some put a bunch of random chemicals 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:36.280 and lead in your body from an unregulated supplement company. 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:40.480 Heritage itself critiques IVF as failing to address the underlying 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:43.679 causes of infertility as well as you know, out of 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:45.439 concern for embryo. 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:47.240 Personhood rights for fuck sake. 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:52.040 So they advocate for embryo adoption and have proposed legislation 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.880 to make the production of embryo spares. 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:58.559 Illegal embryo adoption because they believe that these are like 0:11:58.720 --> 0:11:59.800 full like people. 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.600 Now, on the other side of the you know, pro 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.679 natalist right, you have people like the vampire couple that 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:13.320 Robert mentioned. Simone Collins, a pronatalist activist and failed Pennsylvania 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:14.319 congressional candidate. 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:16.840 She could still pull it off. Stay in line if 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:17.960 your vote hasn't been counted. 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:21.280 People her and her husband are self described quote unquote 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:24.440 techno Puritans, and she is the. 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:33.760 Fucking super shit. Like, put these people on a boat 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:36.600 and send it across the Atlantic, Like, can they get scurvy? 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:38.040 Have they already got? They look a little bit like 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:39.920 they may already have scurvy. To be fair, they do 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.679 look like they have scurvy. Constantly they deprive them of 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.079 lime juice and save the world from a fucking. 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.600 Put them on the next starship and see how far 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:48.240 up it gets. 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:52.439 No, they won't get that. 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.440 Let them try. I support the human spirit. 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.960 Collins is also the former managing director of an exclusive 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.880 Peter teal In social club called a Dialogue. 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:03.839 Now. 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:07.640 She has called the new administration quote unquote inherently pronatalist 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:11.319 and has sent several draft pronatalist executive orders to the 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.080 White House, one of which would award a quote unquote 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:18.720 National Medal of Motherhood to mothers with six or more children. 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.280 This is some churchescu shit, Like, I know we're going 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.360 to talk about that, but Jesus Christ. 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:27.920 She herself wants at least seven kids. And she claims 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:32.760 to use special technology to select embryos with high IQs, 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:37.040 which relates back to what Robert was saying earlier. Yes, 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:41.040 so they use IVF to to specifically select the embryos 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:44.520 that they think are like naturally predisposed to have more 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.760 desirable traits, including high IQ's. They have not discussed the 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.800 exact method. That's why it's called special technology. 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.240 They're looking for one with the big head or something, 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:55.520 So you don't know. I guess I'm not even that 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:57.000 far along that they win the IVF. 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:58.600 So that's abways pretty fucked up. 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:00.439 And then I guess finally, one of the few things 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:04.920 that actually has happened in advancement of this ideology was 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:09.720 way back like in February, Trump's Transportation secretary Sean Duffy, 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:12.600 who is a father of nine and has ten siblings, 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:16.160 sent out a memo directing his staff to prioritize transportation 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:19.720 funds to quote give preference to communities with marriage and 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:23.640 birth rates higher than the national average unquote, which would, 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.080 in ef fact, mean less money for urban public transit 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:29.960 and instead send it towards like wealthier, rural, white conservative areas. 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:35.120 Yeah, I'd imagine Latino communities have higher marriage rates at 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.120 least than like the national average. 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:40.040 Yeah, I'm not sure if Sean Duffy really wants his 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:41.920 employees to select for that, though. 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:43.920 No, neither of my I that's kind that's what I'm 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.680 That's what I'm that's what I'm wondering for. Yeah, Samuel 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.120 Huntington thinks they have higher birth rates, right, Like that's 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:49.800 his whole stick. 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:52.240 If you look at the full memo, I think this 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.080 is this is just like a dog whistle for like 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:58.640 white Christians, Like that is that is really what he's saying, sick, 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.280 that is what I have for the. 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:04.080 Current the current peroneals policies. 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.400 We should go on and ad break and then return 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:10.640 to learn the historical implications of pro natalist policies. 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:23.560 M h. All right, we are back and we are 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:28.320 spinning our globe, our big ball of pro natalism, and 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:33.280 it is slowing down and is landed on Japan, where 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:35.920 mir is going to explain pronatalist policy. 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:39.920 Yeah, and I guess I want to open on a 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.440 kind of global thing, which is a concern over like 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:45.520 birth rates for like fascists is a really old thing. 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.040 I mean it predates fascism. Like this is like like 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.600 if you go to like the eighteen seventies, every single 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.040 person is complaining about like, oh my god, the birth 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:55.040 rate of the right, well, the white race keeps declining 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.360 and we're gonna get like overwhelmed by the Asiatic chords. 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.600 And then you go to like the Asiatic words and 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:04.600 it's like Japan has been having the same fucking panic 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:09.280 for literally so long. Like I cannot emphasize enough. You 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:12.520 can just go back through newspaper archives and you just 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:14.920 it's you're literally reading the same article over and over 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.440 and over again, going back just decades and decades and decades. 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.800 So like the first big modern freak out about birth 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:24.400 rates is in like nineteen eighty seven. Yeah, they have 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:28.760 the first big like japan birth rate declining freak out. 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.240 This has been happening longer than like most of the 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:32.480 people here have been a lie. 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.560 I can remember from my child. It's just been like, oh, 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:38.040 they're panicking about their birth rates again. 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:41.120 Yeah, so like the running thing with Japanese politics. So 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.960 we're roughly doing these in order of like most to 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:48.880 least hinged in terms of like in terms of these 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:52.600 like natalist policies, Japan I think has an interesting series 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:55.160 of sort of political contradictions in their like kind of 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.200 pro natalist Paul Wall, it's if they have they have 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:01.440 political contradictions in their pro natalist polics and political contradictions 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:05.600 in their conservative faction. Because Japan is basically like a 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:09.320 one party liberal democratic state. Liberal Democratic Party is the 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:12.320 one party. This is a party established by a World 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.119 War two Nazi, but that means that they run all 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.959 of politics, so like every political factor effectively runs through them. 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:22.560 They're early attempts in like the nineties are focused on 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:26.600 the deregulation of daycare jobs. So basically their plan is 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:28.320 like in the ninety two thousands, they're like, Okay, we're 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:31.520 going to like deregulate the childcare industry so that we 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:35.000 can have more affordable child There'll be more childcare jobs, 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.600 so people can pay for childcare. This is how we're 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:39.840 going to promote this. And this is sort of one 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.360 of the first places you see this huge intra intra 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.520 class conflict between the peer social conservatives who want to 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:47.480 just like send every woman back to the household to 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:50.480 raise children, and the business people who are like, no, 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:53.560 you can't do that. We need to exploit these women's 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:57.960 labor to like make money. And so the fight that 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:00.520 starts to break out is this fight between like paying 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:05.000 for childcare leave versus like paying for daycare. So originally 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:06.480 that their plan is like, okay, so we're going to 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:07.800 do the daycare stuff. That doesn't work. 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:09.840 Like, none of these things they're going to do does. 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:12.320 Jack shit, right, Like that's going to be a through 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:15.359 line here, Yeah, yeah, Like no, none of this stuff works. 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:16.920 And so like like Shinzo Abe, I think is the 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:18.760 most famous person who spends much of time trying to 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.600 deal with this and like again, so they have started 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:23.800 worrying about this in nineteen eighty seven. It is now 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:29.760 twenty thirteen. The birth rate keeps declining recipitously. Shinzo wabey 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:32.159 rest and piss you fascist bastard is still trying to 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:35.520 like cook something, right, I'm I'm going to read this 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:39.760 quote from the Archives of Clinical Pediatrics. Shortly after the 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:43.119 formation of Abe's second cabinet, the quote Task Force for 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:47.120 Overcoming Population Decline was established in twenty thirteen, introducing three 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:51.919 key strategies, supporting child rearing, reforming work styles, and promoting marriage, 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:55.160 pregnancy and childbirth. So you can do these are going 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:58.000 to become sort of like the three pillars of Japanese 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:01.480 pro natalist policy, right. A lot of it is focused 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:05.560 on this sort of social push stuff to promote the 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:10.120 traditional family and promote marriage, and this hasn't ever really 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:15.480 worked for this. Supporting child rearing is one that is 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:18.119 going to get a lot of attention in subsequent administrations. 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:20.320 There's a lot of attempts to reduce, like to reduce 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:23.280 the cost of child rearing, where we're going to see 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:27.760 them try like thirty five thousand different proposals to do this. 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:34.680 The one that's actually interesting is reforming work style. So, like, 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:38.240 part of the problem here is that, you know, everyone 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:43.400 in Japan is working a just genuinely unhinged amount unbelievably 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:45.720 staggering overwork, right, I mean, it's one of these things 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:48.280 that's like a persistent social crisis. There's a persistent sort 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:51.840 of suicide crisis because of how long everyone is working 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:55.119 all the time. So shinto Abe's plan for this was 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:58.760 to put into place a soft cap of you can 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:02.120 only work one hundred hours a month of overtime. Now, 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:05.760 this doesn't do shit, right, Like one hundred hours a 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:08.840 month of overtime is enough to kill you, right, like, 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:11.480 you know, especially when like your regular hours are this long. 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:14.440 But this is this is again this problem that he's having, 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:18.520 which is that like, okay, so yes, you probably could 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:21.840 maybe like people maybe would have more children if you 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:24.240 weren't working literally all the time and you weren't just 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:27.760 like being worked to death. But that's really bad for 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:30.760 Japanese business. And and like quote unquote Abba nomics, which 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:32.560 is like abe sort of you know economic plan like 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:36.800 relies on maintaining this extremely high level of labor hours 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:40.080 from everyone in the entire population. And it's also based 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:42.320 on putting more women into the workforce to expand the 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:45.080 size of the workforce to you know, extract more hours 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:46.920 so they can all these people can make more money. 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:47.399 Right. 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:51.600 They were also supposed to do free preschool for all children, 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.479 and this just like didn't happen, which over and over 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:56.440 again they're like, we're gonna do these kind of like 0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.680