WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Changing Expectations? 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:05.680 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:07.280 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:17.360 Cowboys. This He's Talking Cowboys Straining live from the Dallas 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:20.599 Cowboys World Hours at the Star in Friscoll. 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:27.680 Straight Stown, dot TSI, TSI Touchdowns. 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:33.200 And now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, John Mashoda, 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:35.000 and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:40.000 It's a Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Black 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:43.560 Rifle Coffee Company, the official coffee of the Dallas Cowboys. 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:47.360 As Week two is here. The Dallas Cowboys and the 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:51.120 New York Jets on tap for Sunday afternoon, three twenty five. 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:56.840 Kicking today, we preview the Dallas defensive matchup with John Machoda, 0:00:56.920 --> 0:01:00.920 Nick Harris, Isaiah Standback, Chris Beam in the back. Yeoman's gentlemen, 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:04.160 how we doing today? Who that was good? 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:04.759 Doing good? 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:05.759 Bring the energy today? 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:07.560 Bring oh always? 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:09.679 Did you usually your Black Rifle coffee this morning? 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.720 I did not. Haven't either, honestly sleep RTG. 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:13.240 He did. 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:15.520 I had to rebound from sleep, from coming in off 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:16.959 two hours on Monday. 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:17.640 And then still recovering. 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:20.679 Yeah, recovery yesterday, Like there was a there was. 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:22.840 A part of me though when that media schedule came out, 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.720 they're moving today's stuff today afternoon because they treat I 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:29.160 guess the Sunday night game. Uh, Mike McCarthy wants to 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.320 give them like extra time. I guess, I don't know, 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:34.320 to rest or whatever. But like Wednesday stuff is way later. 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:37.400 Normally we'll do the show, then we'll go McCarthy locker 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:40.560 room practice, all that stuff. But now it's Mike McCarthy 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:43.600 isn't going until like, I don't know, three thirty thirty. Yeah, 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:45.880 So because of that, I was kind of thrown off 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:46.920 and thinking, oh, I don't have to be out there 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:50.080 three thirdy oh yeah, SHOWR you got a podcast. 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:54.480 Yeah, Uh, we're happy here here, so that's good. But yeah, 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:56.160 a little bit of a break for the guys, and 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:58.320 I think, I mean, forty to nothing, you kind of 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:00.440 deserve a little bit of a breather. And it's good 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:02.440 to get back into the swing of things because these 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:04.960 first three weeks. I've always said, and honestly I learned 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:08.040 this from Caden Gates, one of our producers. H my 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:11.240 first season in this position, it takes about three weeks 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:14.160 for everyone to fill into a rhythm, to to kind 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:16.799 of find their own footing, and whether it's from a 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:20.440 content standpoint or a production standpoint, or of course a 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:22.760 player standpoint, it takes a little bit of time to 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:25.840 get back into a full season's worth of rhythm. And 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.840 so I can only imagine the gentleman that travel here 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:32.120 that that makes things tougher for sure, going back and forth. 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:34.799 But Isaiah is still waking up. He's getting his black 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:35.520 rifle coffee. 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:37.959 It was my sleeping, Yeah, it wasn't. I didn't have 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:38.880 to wake up till six. 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.520 Okay, that's right. 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:44.520 I can probably count on my hand how many times 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:47.600 I'm woken up at six this year. Wow, I'm not. 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:49.799 And when you do, are you happy about that? 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:50.560 Heck? 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:51.720 No, no close. 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:59.160 With us previewing the defensive side of the football, I 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.440 have a fan quest if you want to tweet. 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:05.240 It in the Fan Questions today. Okay, let me find. 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:06.639 The text line and then I'll give you the fan question. 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:09.120 But I'll send you guys a question first. Have the 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:15.000 expectations changed on defense? Haveszick completely changed with the forty 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:18.079 to nothing blanking that they did against the New York 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:22.560 Giants on Sunday Night? Have the expectations changed at all? 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.080 Are they are they increased or do they stay right 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:26.399 around the same with what you anticipated. 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:29.680 That'll be a negative ghostwriter. I believe that the expectations 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:31.880 are still the same. I think that my question marks 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.720 we're revolving around this defense are still in place in 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:37.960 terms of where the question marks actually laid, and obviously 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:39.480 that's going to be in a running game, and obviously 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:43.160 that would be tested today extreme this week. I would 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:48.360 assume as long as the Jets are not too far behind, Yeah. 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:49.880 They haven't changed. For me, I thought that this had 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.280 the potential being the best defense in the NFL, and 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:55.840 they certainly played like that week one, So yeah, I 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:59.040 agree with Isaiah the run game. The way the game started, 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:01.000 I give them a little bit of a pass just 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.280 because you have a bunch of starters that didn't play 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:06.040 in the preseason and they were getting gashed early on 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:08.800 for about six yards of carry get warmed up. Yeah, 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:10.960 and so if that carried down throughout the game, I 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:12.160 think it would have been a little bit more of 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:16.320 a concern. But I was impressed without Jonathan Hankins played 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:19.600 and I know says well in the middle. So the 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:21.880 other interesting part is just to see how guys like 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:24.680 Bell and Wayie times. Some of the safety is coming 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:26.760 up playing lineback. How would they hold up against the run? 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:30.560 And they did a good job Sunday night. But yeah, no, 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:32.160 expectations have not changed for me. 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.280 I'm the same. Expectations are still the same for me 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.320 because when we came into the season, we expected them 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:37.880 to be great and that's what they gave us in 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:39.480 Week one. I don't think we're going to get the 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:41.560 level of that greatness week in and week out. But 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:43.920 it's something I've been kind of thinking about last couple 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.080 of days. You know, what would be a disappointing effort, 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:48.040 you know, game by game for this defense. And I 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:49.920 think back to the Houston game last year. I think 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.440 back to the Jacksonville game last year, or even Green 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.640 Bay in the second half, and what were the the 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:57.680 causes of all those effects? It was lack of death. 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:00.640 And they had that depth now, whether that be the secondary, 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:02.880 whether that be on the defensive line, second level, whatever, 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:06.800 they have those pieces now. So fully my expectation is 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:08.400 for them not to have a lapse like they had 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.520 like last year on multiple ocasions. Like sure, over a 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:13.400 seventeen game season, you're gonna have a bad day that 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:15.840 will happen, But when it happens three four games in 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:17.840 a row, then you know that that's when it gets 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:20.120 a little worrisome to me. That's my expectation is that 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:22.120 that does not happen on a week two week basis, 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:23.920 and we haven't. We didn't see that week one, so 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:26.840 we saw the I think we saw the greatest of 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:28.240 what this product could look in week one. 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:31.560 Yeah, does that? I feel like that's kind of the 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:34.440 reasoning behind the question though. If that's the greatest, if 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:36.600 that's the peak of what this product could look like, 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:40.800 then is there that much of a gap to where 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:43.440 the expectations do change a little bit moving forward? Or 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:46.240 do you expect more? There's like an it's hard, it's 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:47.960 hard to really push for more, right. 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:49.760 Yeah, there's like an echelon and like they were up 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.200 here and they still could be here if they wanted 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:53.920 to be. You know, like it's still like this gap 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.200 of expectation that I have for them personally at least. 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.400 Was there any weak spot on the defense? Was there 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.719 anybody that or any position group that you looked at 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:04.360 and you said, Okay, they did not play their best game. 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.520 They did not go at least to that upper echelon 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:08.440 that you're talking about. 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:10.440 I guess we talked about DeMont Clark yesterday, and then 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:11.760 that kind of had to do with on the first 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:13.760 drive the running game kind of being able to pick 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:15.880 up those five six yards of carry, And you know, 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:17.520 I'd like to see that second level be a little 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:19.760 bit more improved from from that from last week. But 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.240 I would still give that grade pretty dang good. 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:22.640 You know. 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:25.560 I feel like the defense overall really executed. But Ffel 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.200 was nitpicking then maybe the second level. 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:30.600 I mean, I think it would be nitpicking to say 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:33.080 any of those groups this is the NFL. I understand 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.440 it's forded to nothing, and people just think that. You 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:37.080 can look back at the game and go ooh, I 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:39.880 don't know about that play that one right there. I 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.040 think Trayvon could have been like, what are we doing here? 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:44.120 It's forded to nothing? Like sure do that every week? 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:46.520 Start out, give up six yards a run on that 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:48.160 first series and play the rest of the game like that, 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.520 and you'll be remembered, like, you know, the eighty five Bears, 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:54.760 the two thousand Ravens, whatever legion of Boom Seahawks, whatever 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:56.200 you want to do there, they will be it won't 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.960 be best defense of this season in the NFL, it'll 0:06:59.960 --> 0:07:02.080 be one of the like iconic great defenses. If you 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.080 continue to play like that, it's a lot to ask for. 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:05.400 We didn't talk about the nickname. 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.159 We had the whole conversation last year involving around the nickname, 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:10.080 and Micah just squashed everything. 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:12.440 Yeah. Yeah, just Doomsday, right. 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:16.360 Yeah, the Legion of Doomsday. Yeah, yeah, that's what that's 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.880 what ended up. I think last year our our winner 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:21.400 was Legion of booms Day. 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:22.640 For the nickname. 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:23.840 I think Mike had just ended all that. 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.679 Yeah, it's the Legion of Doomsday. That's what its official. 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:29.720 It's different Legion of doombyna argue with him. 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:31.600 Yeah, I'll take it. I'll take it you. 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:35.240 Micah shirt, it's going to. 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:39.680 Yeah. As soon as he said it was like okay 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:42.560 in to print, so okay. So then on the opposite 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:45.160 side of that question, if if we don't want to nitpick, 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.720 let's let's nitpick in a good way. Which which unit 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.840 impressed you the most in that matchup and how can 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:53.400 they continue that against the Jets in Week two? Was 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:57.240 it the pass rush, the secondary corner safety, the unit. 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.920 That impressed me? The most we're talking about just defense. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:01.560 Yeah, it's like giving a player of the game. It's 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:04.520 hard to do. The smelly stickers were tough this week. 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:08.120 I honestly seven. This is gonna sound really bad. 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:08.600 I was. 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.760 I wasn't impressed. It was it was an expectation for me. 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:12.960 Seven sacks. 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:16.160 Yes, for any team that gets behind. 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.720 Yes, we talked about the possibility of hitting seventy sacks 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:20.239 or whatever. 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.080 The I mean the number was. I know I probably 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:23.360 sound dirt, but I. 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:26.120 Said, but that's they're well on. 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:28.360 I mean, that's that's honestly for me. 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:32.000 That was the expectation for any for a team that 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:36.440 is offensively built, is built offensively like the Giants are. Okay, 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.120 that's predicated primarily on the run. If you get behind, 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:42.480 you're unable to run. That's what I expect. That's what 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:44.760 I expect. Honestly, that's truly what I expect. That's why 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:44.920 I was. 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.199 I was unamused. When I was watching the game, it 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.679 was another one. Hope somebody else cool, Right, you watch. 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:50.840 The Sounds of the Sideline this week? 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:51.200 I didn't. 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:53.040 Oh, you gotta watch it. It's really good. 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:53.720 It was fun. 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:55.480 It was fun, Oh, said Diggy's who was on the 0:08:55.520 --> 0:09:00.599 sideline and he's he's pulling the oprah uh saying he's like, 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:02.440 you get a sack, you get a sack he stole, 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.640 he goes, he goes, look under your seat and everybody 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.840 would receive a sack like it's just like a whole thing. 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:10.679 Go check it out. And Alex slowly did a great 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:15.240 job as always seven sacks times seventeen and nineteen. 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:15.959 Did I just did that? 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:16.400 Did you? 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:19.160 I know? Yeah? 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:21.160 Right, yeah, yeah, I would say for me, it's that 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:26.720 hybrid linebacker safety group that included Bell, Juan Ye Thomas. 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:27.599 I get it. 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:29.839 They look good in training camp, they look good in 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:32.199 the preseason. It's another for Week one to step in 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.480 the way they did. I mean, there were some plays 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:37.600 that Bell made that he looked like he'd been playing 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:41.360 like he is a full time starting NFL linebacker. That 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.839 that's I just impressed me. Like I expected him to 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:46.880 get in and have a role. I didn't think he 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.800 would make as many plays that he did, And now 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.360 makes me look at their linebacker group a lot different 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.439 than I did when they originally cut it down to 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:56.360 fifty three. You know, you see overshow and go down 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.800 you think and man, that's probably a weak spot right there, 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:01.240 but a man, I think get that production for those 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.240 guys going forward, they'll be fine at linebacker. 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:04.560 Yeah. 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.280 Absolutely, I would give it to the pass rush group 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:10.360 just because of the dominance that they had from the 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.000 very gig go and being able to just overwhelm the 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:14.520 right side of that offensive line. I know we talked 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:16.640 about it last couple of days, but that was just unreal. 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:21.480 I liked your Nicked Night, by the way, the column 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.440 that you just put on Dallas Cowboys dot Com kind 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:25.440 of spoke to what John's talking about about that depth. 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:27.520 It doesn't matter how the role players got here, but 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:29.600 they're here now and you got to take advantage of them. 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:35.679 Kind of go through your I guess inspiration to write 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:37.959 that piece in the way that you did, because it 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:42.240 did it outlined exactly how a game like that happens 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.040 because you need it from all three phases. You need 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:45.599 it from every guy on the roster. You need it 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:47.400 from your depth, and I think the depth was just 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.240 as impressive as some of the starting players and some 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:51.839 of the superstars were in that game. 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:54.600 Yeah, it was more so thinking back to the offseason, 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:57.199 whenever you know somebody made the fifty three cut, or 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:00.679 somebody was traded for in Igbinoghani's case, or you know, 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.280 an acquisition was made and it's you know, Twitter being 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:05.320 Twitter and it's like, who's this guy? Why does this matter? 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:09.320 You know, screw that through this and all those guys 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:11.800 that would be quote unquote forgotten are not cared about 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:13.679 when they're acquired. Those were the guys that set the 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.080 tone on Sunday. It was you know, it was one 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:17.880 year Thomas coming and blocking the field goal was no 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:21.319 eggnogny running it down the sideline. You know, when Deron 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:23.599 Bland was drafted, you know, probably people didn't give a 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:25.720 give a damn about that, and then he's the one 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.200 that gets to pick six. So it was a lot 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:30.040 of those guys setting the tone. And you know it's 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.640 basically like, you know, don't it shouldn't matter how they 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:34.480 get here. They're here now and they're performing now. 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:36.319 So the other things like what it was about, I 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:38.280 think like about that is that I mean, just from 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:42.440 my perspective of covering the Dallas Cowboys, there's probably too 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.880 much focus on the stars like that is generally, you know, 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:48.120 you're playing the hits when you when you cover this team, 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.920 you're that and nationally that's what's being talked about all 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:52.559 the time and stuff. So when you see some of 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.000 these players that aren't talk about as much because even 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:57.959 like undrafted guys fits around pick stuff like that. I'm 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.360 even gonna include somebody like a Dante follower that you 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:02.559 kind of sometimes forget, like how many times were you 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:04.880 sitting there talking about like, oh, Dante followed this. Dante 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:07.959 followed that during like training camp, and he kind of 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:09.480 goes under the radar and then you just watch the 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:11.480 way he plays in that game, you forget like, oh, yeah, 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:13.400 you know, I mean that's a really high round pick 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:17.640 or high pick and it just comes from some areas 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:19.559 that you don't I mean, you're expecting Mike, you know, 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:22.800 you're expecting you know, CD and tray Von Diggs and 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.439 Dak and stuff like that. But to see some of 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.559 the guys that you mentioned right there throwing a Cavante Turpin. 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:30.720 Cavanti Turpin had three carries. He had three carries off 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:34.040 last season. He had three receptions. I think he only 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:37.160 had two last season. So the fact of like them 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:40.720 getting hit him that involved. I don't think there's anybody 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:44.160 that really expected that Week one from Cavante Turpin. 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.640 So it was quick the way that they were able 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:49.760 to get him involved. The fact that Turpin was utilized 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:51.560 the way that he was. I mean, that's that's been 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:54.400 an emphasis. That's been something that the coaching staff has 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:56.920 talked about. But like you said, John, I don't think 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:58.400 you expected it in week one like that. 0:12:59.240 --> 0:12:59.640 I like it. 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:05.400 I like I mean, listen, coach McCarthy, I believe that 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:09.280 he not only possesses the knowledge and the wisdom right 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:12.400 from his past experiences, but I also believe that he 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.240 learns from dan Quinn and I think they learned from 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:16.880 each other, and I think that's a relationship that they 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:20.119 have and to say that they don't would be ridiculous. 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:22.840 Just because you're in the head coach of position doesn't 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.360 mean that you can't pick up insight from others. And 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.880 I think that one thing by being around dan Quinn 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.079 that he's learned is put your players in a position 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:35.440 to be successful, regardless of how high caliber they are 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.280 or not. Right, So you talk about somebody like Turpin 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:42.280 who his sole purpose and sole job this training camp 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:44.880 was to earn the trust of the offense, earn the 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.680 trust of those of coach McCarthy, a Schotenheimer earned their 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:50.600 trust that they can trust you as an offensive threat. 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:54.320 And he did that in training camp, not in the preseason. 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:56.520 He did it in training camp. And because he did 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:58.480 it in training camp, and they saw it every day 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.240 through and through, saw his ability to take the plays, 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.480 apply the plays, do the assignments, all those things. Now, 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:06.839 you put yourself in a position to be utilized in 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:10.160 a game like that outside of your position, simply because 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:13.040 the fact that these coaches trust you, so it just 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:16.520 adds another threat. The guys are not this roster this 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:20.120 team on both all three phases, regardless of what your 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:23.120 position title is, they are going to put you in 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.200 position to be successful. And I think that's an awesome 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:25.880 thing about this team. 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:27.360 And the other thing about the turf and thing going 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:29.120 tying that in. There's a lot of things that he 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:30.640 did that you can sit there and go, well, they 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.040 can do some of the stuff with duce Vaughn too. 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:33.360 You know, they never really had to get to the 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.480 duce Vawn part of anything because they did de late 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:37.840 in the game, but obviously it was already over. But 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.040 I'm talking about with like the ones mixing him in 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:43.160 in certain situations teams as they're playing. And that stands 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:45.440 out to me because of there's just been many times 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:47.880 over the last couple of years where Mike McCarthy's talked 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.640 about them being like a dome team, even though you know, 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.760 they don't really play in a dome. It's technically indoor 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.080 outdoor type stadium, but they're built like that. They play 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:59.240 on turf, they're built to, you know, have a fast 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.280 team that you could really take advantage of some of 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.920 those those different things. And so to see that in 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.160 that game, that was that was pretty interesting because I 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:09.840 was not expecting that type of usage from from from Turpin, 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:12.960 not in some meaningful roles right away. I thought maybe 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:15.240 it would grow to that, but yeah, that was that 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:16.560 was I didn't expect. 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:19.040 That Interurpin wasn't the only one that shined during training 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:22.560 camp and the preseason and got their shot in Week one. 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.440 I mean, we've talked about it at nauseum about Janye Thomas. 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.680 I think it's the best example of that. Marquise Bell 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.280 is in there too, but you also look at some 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:32.640 of the other guys, I mean, Layton Vandersh and Michael Parsons. 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.240 We were talking about that that set where Parsons is 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.320 rushing as as the nose tackle he's as a zero technique. 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.240 Then you have Layton van Derresh coming off the edge. 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:43.080 What happened A pressure happened in that uh in that 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.000 play whenever they pulled it out, And that's probably not 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:46.400 the only time you're going to see a look like 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:48.160 that from dan Quinn. He's gonna mix it up a 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:48.560 little bit. 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:50.600 I charted it at least three times, and yeah, I 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:52.000 still need to go back and give it a full, 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:55.120 full end depth chart. But during the game, I gave 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.320 it three times and I believe they were able to 0:15:57.400 --> 0:15:59.040 generate pressure on the backfield on two of those. 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.960 So we talked about OSA. We talked about and even 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:04.880 from an offensive standpoint. I know this is the defensive preview, 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:07.760 but from an offensive standpoint, we also talked about the 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.280 iron sharpens iron a lot when we were in Oxnard, 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.280 about how facing this defense constantly is going to make 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:15.680 you better. Talk about the offensive line in the way 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:17.800 that they stood up against a really good defensive front 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:20.600 from New York. And you have Chiuwa Madoga coming in, 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:23.320 plugging in not necessarily lighting the world on fire, but 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:26.240 also doing his job the right way. It's probably because 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:28.840 he was facing Mike Hah Parsons and Osa Digizua and 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:31.760 Jonathan Hankins and these guys that just flashed on Sunday 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:33.840 Night football. He was able to do that in practice 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:35.320 and face him in practice every single day. 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:35.760 Yeah. 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:37.480 I know, that's why I stayed away from now because 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:38.960 I know we're on defense today, but that was my 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:41.400 vote for most impressive offensive line. 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.840 Didn't expect that level of performance against them, okay, And. 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:47.720 There are definitely times in practice in training camp where 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:50.440 those practices would have looked exactly like the Giants game 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:53.120 did for the Cowboys offense. Yeah, there's a thing where 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:55.720 you can't hit Dak Prescott, you have to run by him, 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:58.200 and so it allows him to do a scramble drill 0:16:58.280 --> 0:16:59.960 and things like that where the play just doesn't stopped. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:01.720 There were many times out there where you were like, 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:04.920 if this was a game, I mean, they would three 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:06.000 and out, three and out, three and out. 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:08.480