WEBVTT - 2011 with Devon Walker 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:07.640 Welcome back to another episode of look Back at It, 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:10.360 the podcast where we put or a moment and we 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:14.280 unpacking and the funniest way possible. I am on the post, 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:20.239 Sam Jay, and today's guest is a I guess we 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:30.720 gotta say improviser now improvisor comedian after former live podcaster 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:37.960 of the Amazing podcast is my favorite lyrics just all 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:40.000 around cool, laid back dude. 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:45.880 Devin Walker. All right, what's going on? Hey? Nice to 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:46.960 nice to be here. 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:50.400 Here everyone program, He's finally here. 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:53.080 Look at look at Look at. 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:53.920 That, Devin. 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:56.840 We're a very honest pod. We don't lie to our guests. 0:00:57.320 --> 0:00:59.880 You picked twenty eleven and we got a bunch of 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:06.560 search on twenty fifteen the year. But we're still gonna 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:08.360 dive in. And what we usually do. I guess when 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:10.920 we we first start digging into the year that they chose, 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:13.720 it's kind of asked who they are in this year? 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:15.319 Who are you in two thousand and how old are you? 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:17.440 Where are you? What? 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:20.040 What is Devin Walker like? Twenty eleven? 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:22.200 Devin Walkery eleven, I'm twenty. 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:24.160 Years old, okay, finished years old. 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:28.479 I'm in college. What else am I up to? I'm 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:32.800 like I'm taking risks. I'm taking risks stylistically, you know 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:35.080 what I'm saying. This was like, you know, I feel 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:37.160 like I picked twenty eleven a lot because because of 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:40.559 the music that was happening during that time and Frank Ocean, 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:41.120 it just came out. 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:41.959 Where are you in school? 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:42.880 Where are you going to school? 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.480 You're in Austin, in Texas. Not in Austin. I'm in 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:47.160 a town called San Markets, Texas. 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.840 San Markets, Texas, which is like, it's like a town. 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:51.160 What's what's the name of the school? 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:52.400 Texas State University. 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:56.600 Okay, So it's a like like is it one of 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:58.800 those schools where kids go to when they don't really 0:01:58.800 --> 0:01:59.840 want to go to school, but you gotta to go to. 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:02.520 Schoo Basically, it's like if you couldn't get into like 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:04.840 the like the University of Texas or like an m 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:06.960 but you still wanted to go to college, this was 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:08.560 like one of those top schools. 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:12.919 After that, I'm student respect, Okay, it's okay. School. We 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:14.160 all went to schools in the. 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:16.480 Similar school very similar. 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:20.960 Yeah, okay, maybe to school below. 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:23.200 No, it's okay. 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:26.600 I Also I know I didn't I didn't put the 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:28.800 effort force to go to a better school than I. 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:29.799 Mean, look what we all are. 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:30.079 Well. 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:32.280 I also feel like we all have this in common 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:33.880 where it's like if we really put pedal to the 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:36.400 medal and decided like I'm gonna get these straight a's, 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:37.240 we all could have did it. 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.680 Yeah, it just wasn't It wasn't a priority. I got. 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:42.639 I got into Clark, but I didn't really want to 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:43.519 say school. 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:45.560 They let me. 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:47.840 They let me do a tour of Clark and more 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:50.839 House and they were like, Nah, you're not going down here. 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:52.200 You gonna be it's gonna be too much. 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:54.600 She was about to be acting up Alex Alex in 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:56.680 Atlanta at like eighteen, come. 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.519 On whatever, whatever when I would have dropped out. 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:03.040 Whatever whatever the gay guy equivalent and getting praid whatever 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:04.919 it is, that's not good. 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.400 What is it? What is it just like a child 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:11.359 something you can't get rid of. 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.600 I don't think that. I don't think that's the same. 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:22.080 Yo. That was why that was crazy, and we're leaving 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:22.239 it in. 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.120 Keeping it and leaving it in is the result of 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:27.639 I ended up with that ship exactly. 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.239 So, actually, that's not how that works. 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:36.400 You had a school system failed them, so you're twenty. 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:42.560 You're at Texas State University. You're you're experimenting with your look. 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.360 Yes true and what you still do that now though 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:47.280 that hasn't left you. That's true. 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:48.960 I feel like college is when it really started. 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:51.440 What were you wearing? 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:51.880 Man? 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.480 I had a I had an afro. I had a 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:56.800 big afro. I started reading. I started reading. It was 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:58.880 my first time being around, like being immersed in white 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:01.360 people in that type of way. Like where I grew 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.720 up was like it was like very diverse. It was 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.400 like a very I grew up right outside Austin. 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:07.080 In a black part. 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.240 I grew up in a mixed park. I grew up 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:09.840 in a mixed park. 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:11.320 I grew up like the high school that I went 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:14.000 to was literally like split It was like thirty percent 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:15.720 white and thirty percent Mexican. 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:16.479 And thirty percent Okay. 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:17.320 It was like split up. 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:19.719 It was like very like in my neighborhood. 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.279 It was literally like me and like a Nigerian family, 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.479 like a Mexican family, like a Korean family and like 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:25.240 an Indian kid. 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:28.719 Like got you experience is like you're with the whites. 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:30.560 I was really deep in it with the white so 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:30.960 you had. 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:33.880 To get extra black, you know what, I'm to Surban 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:35.120 High School and I got real black. 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.200 Yeah, you turn it up in a different type of way. 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:38.640 I get it. 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:40.680 Yeah, I like I almost was in a white boy 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:41.479 frat for a second. 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:43.599 I can see that. I think you would have been happier. 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:46.960 No, I don't think I white. That's what I was like, 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:49.320 this this ain't for me. I like thought, because like I, 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:51.920 I transferred to the school in my sophomore year and 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:53.600 I didn't know that many people. And so I was like, 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:55.440 all right, I had a white boy roommate who's a 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:56.880 white boy frat. And I was like, all right, like 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.560 he's doing that, Like maybe I'll move over and and 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:01.080 do that for a second. And I tried it, and 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:02.560 I was like, and that made you get it? 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:04.400 And I and then I and then I said, you. 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:05.880 Know, are you reading? 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:07.760 Like are you reading? I'm reading literature? 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:08.280 What are you reading? 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:13.960 That's like that, That's the way. 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:20.880 I read it. I went over there. 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:23.479 I got deep in the whiteness, and I said, I 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.040 need the course correct. 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:26.880 I gotta get I started reading Soul. 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:32.919 All the way over there. Michael Eric Dyson are you 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:33.719 harper Books? 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:35.520 Are you mad? 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:35.960 Though? 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:36.839 Or you just are you? 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:37.040 Like? 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.479 Are you reading it and going like the thirty crackers, 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:40.960 are you just like I got info? 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:41.200 Now? 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:41.560 Yeah? 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:42.800 I was like I need to I was like I 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:44.720 need to read up on this because obviously they don't 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:45.200 teach you that. 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:46.040 Like school. 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:48.760 Did you grow up with African American studies and your Mike. 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.600 That's so wild to me because it was a requirement 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:54.560 in Detroit public schools that you had Africa, you had 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:55.440 Social studies. 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:56.080 And then you had African American. 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.919 Detroit is like like black Haven. 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:00.600 Yeah. 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:02.800 Yeah, yeah, it's just a lot of me when like 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:05.520 I meet people like new friends, like later on the 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:07.680 lafe and I'm like, oh, y'all not here, like y'all 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:10.120 didn't have or it was like an elective class you 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.560 could choose choose like history like no. I literally from 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.560 like third grade up until like eighth it was like, 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:17.920 go learn about niggas. 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.960 Yeah, that's why the Troit got the most niggerous. 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.640 That's why Troit got got a super intended. They can't read. 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:30.240 You don't even I don't got to bring up. 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:36.400 Ocean with an afro. 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:38.680 I gotta I had an afro and I had like 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:40.520 a I had an afro with like a part in it. 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:41.920 I had like an afro with. 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.960 A party where you wearing the Frank Ocean yellow bandana. 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:46.040 Also with this afro. 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:47.400 It was it was red and white. But I did 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:51.719 have I didn't have what's the outfit with the bandana? 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:54.159 Like, yeah, what's the outfit that's going with this outrow? 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.800 Like what's the rest? I mean at that time, I 0:06:57.880 --> 0:06:59.440 was probably wearing. I probably had. 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.000 Skinny jeans on and like I probably had skinny jeans 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:02.680 and sperries and. 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:06.200 Like a throwback like hoodie or something. Okay, you know 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:06.720 what I'm saying. 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:09.159 I was. I was trying a lot of I was 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:10.720 trying to mix and match. I was trying to be 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:11.600 I was trying to be collected. 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:16.160 Are you fucking uh? Yeah? Yeah yeah, white girls sometimes, 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.280 but you're mixing it up. I'm mixing it up. Black 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:20.600 girls are getting in there, yeah of course. Okay. 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:23.000 You always say it like it's a given, but it's not. 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:25.280 It's not given with you. 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.400 What the funk? Don't talk to me like that. Sure, 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.480 but you had to grow in Sure, I would say, 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:32.280 you know what I was saying. 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:35.640 I would say I would say my ward one first 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:39.560 of all, predominantly white institution. You know what I'm saying, 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:42.720 so it is like it's it's it's a lot of 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:45.200 it's a lot of white women around for sure, but 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:48.160 it's like, but it was never exclusively that it was No, 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:49.880 I was never I was never one of them type. 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.880 I'm not thinking it's exclusive. I'm thinking you're taking what's coming. Sure, 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.280 you're catching vibes. When you're catching vibes. 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:56.800 You know what I'm saying is my my levels didn't 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.200 need to even out. You know what I'm saying, based 0:07:59.200 --> 0:07:59.600 on like. 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:02.200 Asian happening, I think you're getting mixing. 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:03.560 It's not really that many Asians. 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.400 But but I don't think it's just getting like black 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:07.680 girly until I think it was a switch in here. 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:10.560 It definitely it turned up the older I got. I 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:12.320 definitely I had directly. 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:13.640 What I'm saying, you had to get your you got 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.000 to get a little level set. 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.320 Yeah, but I don't think two year old Devin had 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:18.240 that level set yet. 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:20.120 I mean, you were getting ready to join a white turn. 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:21.400 I think it's white city. 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.800 I think I think you're running through white boom. 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:28.280 Running through is what that's. I think that's a little 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:30.120 bit different than what he was trying to say. But 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:32.280 what would you deny running through? 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:38.120 It was it was around, it was pressure, it was president, 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:39.400 and there was definitely around. 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:40.679 I don't know if I I don't know if I 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:41.240 was running through. 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:45.880 I wasn't there yet when we don't have research, This 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:46.520 is wonderful. 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:48.760 This is not what I thought this podcast. I thought 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:50.560 we were supposed to talk about specific years. 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:58.440 We will, we will, Yeah, you are first, just like 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:01.600 I think, I think, I think a white people period 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:01.960 of fucking. 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:04.520 It's just like that can just be part of life sometimes, 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:05.880 you know what I'm saying. I had, I had a 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:07.840 part of life like that. My friend Alex is maybe 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:10.400 a period. 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:12.160 Of in college for me, I was not. 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:14.600 I think, actually, actually, I think me and Alex did 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:15.640 the opposite of verse. 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:17.199 I think me actually in verse. 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.280 I think younger mean early twenties, a lot of white 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:22.319 girls and then that decreased. I think Alex, Alex a 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.480 lot of niggas early and then white boys. 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:29.520 Later, an exhaustive number of niggas early and you know, 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:35.839 let's try and not just white, not just white. I 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.640 went on and diversified my profile, I will say, especially 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:39.880 when I got to New York, because I was like, 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:42.040 the world is just so much bigger than I would 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:42.880 have ever imagined. 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.240 And so yeah I experimented, Yeah I did. 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:47.480 I don't. I don't have a problem with saying that 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:50.080 at all. It might have been a reverse. That's a 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.000 good thing. You should start black, you start black as hell, 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:55.480 and then you move into the world to diversify yourself. 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:56.840 You sound like O. J. Simpson. 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:07.280 Hey, I'm not black, I'm Alex. You shut it down, 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:09.000 cut the mic off. 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:11.880 I get that was good. 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:14.560 I didn't like it was bad. I don't. 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:16.719 I don't support that, and I don't want you to 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:17.920 say stuff like that no more. 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:20.839 I feel like the white boys came as Alex was 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.760 transitioning into a top too. Oh sure, I think that 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:25.880 was a part of it, too. Sure, I think it 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:27.520 was a part of his black dominance. 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:33.880 He was like, I'm about to show whose boss? 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:37.520 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, something about something about don't 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:41.880 say whatever about allow don't say something about allowing a. 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:43.720 White man to like interview the skills. 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:45.480 I'm too educated today. 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.120 And see now you're and you know what, I'm not 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:47.760 going to address this. 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.920 I'm not going to I'm not wearing a. 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.760 Public forum and I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna. 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:56.920 I'm a little educated to white vagina. 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.880 Really, that's how I feel. I know too much, and 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:04.600 I believe what you. You cap it on the mic and. 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:09.000 Excuse me, what you know? Say what you want to say? No, no, no, no, 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:09.600 let's do it. 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:14.439 Let's let's let's do it, Alex. 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:16.360 I never got talked by a white man. 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:21.920 Yeah, you out here lying like I don't know you. 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:24.880 That's crazy. And you say and you say it on 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:26.800 stage too, he says it on stage and you don't 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:28.360 do it. And I'm like, I know that. 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:30.559 I don't do it. Really, I don't do it. I've 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:32.360 done it, but I don't do it. It's a difference. 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:36.800 Does that mean a big difference between That's a big difference. 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.199 In those words, doing it and having done it are 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:43.079 two different things. I don't participate in that activity regularly. 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.240 Parts through what he's talking about. 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:52.200 It checks out, it checks out. I don't engage really check. 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.800 I don't do it. I've done it. 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:58.800 Before, but I do participate in it actively. Can we 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:04.760 get some research regularly? I think Samma bin Latin was murdered. 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:06.800 I think we need some information. 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:10.000 He was murdered in twenty eleven. I said murder. He 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:10.720 was murdered. 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:30.200 You brought up Frank Ocean, so like, yeah, I've discussed 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:32.600 this man with you on your podcast before. Well now 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:35.200 you're just this is your this is your floor to 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:38.240 discuss your relationship. What's your relationship with Frank Ocean? What's that? 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.520 What's that music? Because you said this is this is 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.240 twenty eleven was tied into your music. Tases's brought up Frank. 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:46.200 What is Frank doing for you that no one else 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:47.000 is doing in music? 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.640 Honestly, all of all of our future just had started 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:51.840 to shop that year. This was right when that started. 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.800 That's perfect for you. I feel like there's a generation 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:57.640 of black youth. It was like y'all needed that. Of 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:02.360 course that a little bit like jee see because if 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.160 type like because like. 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:06.880 At twenty eleven, I'm twenty nine. 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.560 You know what I'm saying, I'm like a I'm a 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:13.400 nerd kid, like I was at the beginning of like 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:14.600 niggas being weird. 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.640 I always say this, Like I was into anime very young. 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:21.240 I was way into nerd. I was listening to like 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.560 alternative music, you know what I mean. We were like 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.760 it was a little generation of us that were like 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.880 niggas would be like, what's going on over there with y'all. 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:32.520 Well, I was dying my hair with like kool aid. 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.520 I was like fucking around and hot topic. 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.280 You know what I mean. And I had had a 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:37.800 wallet chain. 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:38.920 I had a wallet chain. 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.120 And I had a boyfriend who like wore jingos and 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:42.120 had a wallet chain. 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:43.000 Crazy for me to hear. 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:47.160 He had a little eyebrow ring and he was a 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:48.880 little weird boy, you know. He used to die his 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:52.400 heir blonde. What And when Tyler came out, I remember 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:57.920 like that first joint. I'm a fucking dross sratops that ship. Yes, 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:00.800 I remember calling my ex boyfriend and being like, what 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:02.920 do you think about this? He's like, it's so fucking cool. 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:05.440 I wish I had this, And I was like, yeah, 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:09.400 we didn't have a lot of spaces to find our 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:11.840 black identity within the. 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:13.000 Ship that we were into. 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:14.320 It was like nerve. 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.480 That's why that's why Pharrell became like everything to us, because. 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:18.560 It was like, whoa, this is. 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:22.320 God the only thing that's letting us fuck around. And 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:26.640 so when I saw like y'all coming up and just 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:30.800 getting to be like weirdos but still black, Yeah, it 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:33.840 was like it was I saying it was so dope. 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.120 It was like, oh, this is such a cool thing 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:40.120 that y'all get to exist in this space because we 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:43.840 were having to like look outside of our identity to 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.320 get that. 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.520 That it scratched what you know, but to that to 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:53.200 that effect though, now you see what happened with Tyler 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:57.920 last year when he paid his respects to di'angelo and 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:02.760 all these cookie, crazy, weirdo white boys didn't know how 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:06.640 to act with that. How do what what is your 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:10.160 take on that whole thing, because now, like the fan 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.600 base that he has, you know, accumulated like these these 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:16.000 motherfuckers don't have the same like even though we were 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:19.160 able to be weird and black and you know, alternative 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:20.280 in a way that Tyler was. 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.320 Do you think he saw the writing on the wall? 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:23.240 I mean he was also like. 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:26.000 What seventeen, He wasn't even like all this, He wasn't 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:28.160 even developing in his brain enough like to know what 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:32.600 he was creating and how his relationship with black culture 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:36.440 would not really fully be seen through what he was 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:40.320 making so or seen by black people as a connection 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:41.880 to what he was making, or like even the white 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.040 people that were enjoying so what do you make of 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:46.080 like that whole thing that happened last year. 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:48.240 I mean, I think that's kind of bound to happen. 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:50.000 I mean I think, like I don't know, in most 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:51.920 in most forms of like art, like if white people 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:53.680 don't fuck with what you're doing, you're probably not gonna 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:55.560 be that successful. 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:57.600 House. 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.800 You know what I'm saying. And Malcolm xIC just jumped 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:03.440 you feel what I'm saying. 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:05.320 Like it's like I don't know, like we we all 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.560 have like had careers that like a big part of 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:09.240 our careers are like white people do kind of funk 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.520 with what we do. And if white people don't fuck 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:13.880 with what you do, then like there's only so far 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:16.400 a lot of times, and there are exceptions to these rules. 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:18.400 But like I do think generally, if you want to 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:21.720 become really mainstream popular, a lot of white people do 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:22.440 have to like you. 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:26.360 I think I think it's it's breaking though, because now 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.000 it's becoming siloed so much. 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.880 True everybody's just creating their culture. 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:32.920 So you look at like Deontay Kyle, and it's like 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.080 he just over there created his church and eighty five soup. 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:39.400 They just over there making their church. Anyway, if you 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:40.640 could grab your two million. 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:45.480 Sure, you're good, You're right, I mean you remember that 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:46.160 we did. 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:50.760 And we were like, oh, it's hello, white people in here. Sure, 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:52.760 even like niggas who were trying to get into this show, 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:54.760 We're like, we can't get into that capacity. And then 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:56.160 we were like, oh, number one, we got to go 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:58.120 down We gotta go downstairs the bar room. 0:16:58.600 --> 0:16:59.520 We need more space. 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:01.920 And we were all three of us, Me and Gary were like, 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:06.040 and we gotta do Nigga out because because the crowd was. 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.640 Just so kind, you have to be conscious of it. 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:08.960 Yeah. 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:11.080 I was like, can we should start like doing some 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:13.159 like gorilla marketing, just like tell niggas we see in 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:14.120