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Speaker 1: M and I invited you here. I thought I made

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Speaker 1: myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home,

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Speaker 1: So how did you dare to surbey me?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to, I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineker. I'm

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Speaker 2: in a perfect, perfect place right now. I you know,

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Speaker 2: I spilled a little water on my shoe a few

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Speaker 2: my shoes off and my sock is wet. That none

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Speaker 2: of this matters. None of it matters to you, the listener.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy you're here, and I'm so happy our

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Speaker 2: guest is here. Everybody loves Joe Firestone, Joe, Welcome to.

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Speaker 2: I said, no gifts.

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be amazing?

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Speaker 2: No? If my name was Raymond, everybody loves Raymond.

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Speaker 3: It's Raymond. Everybody Raymond.

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm good. I just I had dinner right before this,

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Speaker 3: and I, you know, oh, we don't really talk during dinner.

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Speaker 3: We watched television in our home and I just watched

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Speaker 3: the first twenty minutes of a juicy episode of The

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Speaker 3: Guilded Age.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, of the very first episode of that show.

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Speaker 3: No, the eighth episode.

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Speaker 2: Oh so you're deep into it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, have you seen this show?

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Speaker 2: I've seen half of the pilot.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you know exactly what it's about. It doesn't change

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Speaker 2: That's it. I've seen the first season of Downton Abbey,

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Speaker 3: Okay, there is more CGI, but one big difference. And

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you have familiars in Britain or

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Speaker 3: whatever insight on this. Here's the thing in Downton Abbey.

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Speaker 3: Whenever somebody doesn't mean bad, somebody's always watching. So there's

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Speaker 2: People are just going hog wild.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's like there's kisses, and there's all sexual

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Speaker 2: So it's just kind of chaos anarchy.

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Speaker 3: Everybody can do whatever accent they choose.

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Speaker 3: Is important? Do you are you inspired by anything right now?

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Speaker 2: This show is incredible. This it's a British couple, Dick

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Speaker 3: Wow. You know, if you really want to get rich,

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Speaker 3: you do have to have multiple streams of income. That's

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Speaker 3: what I learned from Mark Wahlberg.

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Speaker 2: When did Mark Wahlberg just his life in general?

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Speaker 3: Which ones? You know?

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Let's I assume some sort of car dealership.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you a hint. It rhymes with Seth Dorty.

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Speaker 2: Dive, Seth doherty dive, Beth caath meth uh Seth dorby dive.

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Speaker 2: Now he went for Wallberg the pun with Wallburgers. It's

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Speaker 2: Mark Waterberg?

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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah, no, Yeah, I'm glad you'd said Mark Waterburg.

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Speaker 3: What it's called, Helen Mark Wallberg water. I'll find out, holl.

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Speaker 2: Let me say wallberg Burg wall we uh Wetburg.

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Speaker 3: But where you prefer multi?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess you kind of have to write you

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Speaker 2: I mean you, you're a kind of multi.

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Speaker 3: Everybody has to be. There's no other way to be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah? And then I said, I don't think I I'm

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Speaker 2: Yes, interesting, so interesting.

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Speaker 3: That's what I learned is that it's not so.

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Speaker 2: I'm uh, I'm fine at school. I'm a huge procrastinator,

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Speaker 3: You know? I struggled. I struggled with I just am

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Speaker 2: Everything is pushed to the very last minute. I don't

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Speaker 2: So how did you break the habit?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I have, And like during that time, I got

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Speaker 3: Of the list. You feed yourself dinner.

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Speaker 2: I do feed myself dinner, but I don't make it.

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Speaker 2: I'm waking up at about these days, about six forty five?

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Speaker 2: I have four daughters who need me. No, I'm just

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Speaker 2: by eleven pm. Well six six forty five, I'm eating

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Speaker 3: Wow? Well that's what you're wake up okay, okay? And

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Speaker 2: I try to read it, you know, a chapter two,

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Speaker 3: What's the hurdle?

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Speaker 3: No? Well, I got a dog and so at eight am,

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Speaker 3: He's like he's like twenty pounds or something. He's right here.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, he doesn't. Real quick, real quick, real quick. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Oh it's the best feeling in the world. Thing beats it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: This doesn't make sense to me.

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Speaker 3: I know breakfast, I don't. I could do eat breakfast.

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Speaker 3: If I got to do breakfast, I'll do a piece

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Speaker 3: of a piece of toast.

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Speaker 2: Okay, just some dry toast or a jam. What that's stopping?

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Speaker 3: What actually stopping with? That's the only way.

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Speaker 2: To get duckuit eat out of a pond.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's pregnantly I gotta ring it out. It's got

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Speaker 3: so much. Yeah, it's a butter butter heavy toast.

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Speaker 2: I become very nauseous if I'm not if I don't

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Speaker 3: Fargo the movie or the TV show the movie the

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Speaker 3: movie the movie?

438
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Speaker 2: Yes?

439
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 3: So do you know that seeing where Francis McDormand has

440
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 3: to get up at like four a m. Yeah, pregnant, Yeah, pregnant,

441
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,719
Speaker 3: and her husband makes her this like huge breakfast feast

442
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 3: that she eats happily. That scene makes me so sick.

443
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 3: And for some people it like would be the best

444
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 3: thing ever. But I'm like that it sounds horrible, horrible,

445
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 3: this dark outside. You're eating all of this.

446
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 2: Food if it's a dark outside, I do agree, Like

447
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know that I want to be

448
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 2: eating a big breakfast. If I can see the sun,

449
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,959
Speaker 2: I would happily eat a you know, Midwest minute are

450
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 2: they they're They're not in Fargo, They're actually in Where

451
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 2: does Francis's character live in Fargo? Outside of Fargo? I

452
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 2: believe I would eat a nice, big breakfast from whatever

453
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 2: city that is any day. Pregnant not pregnant. My husband's

454
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Speaker 2: whipping up breakfast. I mean, here's my question there is

455
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 2: he's got to be clanging around in the kitchen, and

456
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,479
Speaker 2: that takes a while to make. Yeah, so your partner,

457
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: her partner is a giant nuisance. As far as I

458
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 2: can tell, I would be furious. I don't care what

459
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 2: you're doing for me. Let me sleep. But she is

460
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 2: trying to solve a.

461
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: Mystery she is does and she does a good job, and.

462
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 2: They love each other. In that movie, they have a

463
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:10,959
Speaker 2: very nice relationship.

464
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 3: That's great. What a great thing to have a nice

465
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 3: relationship in a movie.

466
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just two adults who love each other.

467
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Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be nice? Do you do? You? What do

468
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 3: you read? You read mystery books by Agatha Christie.

469
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Speaker 2: I haven't read an Agatha Christie in a while. I

470
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 2: have read in the past a couple Agatha Christie's. I'm

471
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: currently reading something called In the Distance, which is a Western,

472
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 2: which is tremendous. I can't recommend it enough western. It's

473
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 2: a Western about a Swedish immigrant who gets separated from

474
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Speaker 2: his brother. They're both on on He ends up in California.

475
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: His brother is apparently in New York, and he's making

476
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Speaker 2: his way against the stream of various travelers flowing through

477
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: the country. He's going the other direction, having a horrible time,

478
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 2: running into scammers, mysterious naturalists, this kind of thing, and

479
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: having just a difficult time, as I believe a te

480
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:13,719
Speaker 2: Swedish teen would in pioneer times. WHOA, now, what are

481
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 2: you reading?

482
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 3: Well, I asked, because I'm reading Agatha Christie and I

483
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: thought maybe what were the chances that maybe you read

484
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 3: the same one. I just finished it today, The Moving Finger.

485
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 2: Oh, I've never heard of the Moving Finger.

486
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 3: It's okay, it's okay. Yeah, I just found out who

487
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 3: did it?

488
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: So, oh was it a surprise?

489
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 3: Yeah? It always is, It always is.

490
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: Did you have did you feel like you came close

491
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:39,719
Speaker 2: to guessing?

492
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 1: No?

493
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 3: I'm always wrong. But they say that, they say that

494
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 3: there's like so there's like that. I forget what they're called.

495
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 3: It's like a like it's like a association of mystery writers.

496
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 3: They were like these famous mystery writers in Britain that

497
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 3: like they all had a pledge where they had to

498
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 3: write mystery stories where it had to be plowed and

499
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,959
Speaker 3: it had to be solvable, and they all took this

500
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: oath and Agatha Christie was part of that. So I

501
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 3: guess technically it's solvable. Never done it.

502
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: Those I mean, I you know, I guess she's Agatha

503
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 2: or let's say was was Agatha Christie for a reason

504
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 2: she had all these mysteries she I mean, it's hard

505
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: to really prove if they're actually solvable. I mean, how

506
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 2: do you actually, you know, scientifically say yes, people could

507
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 2: have guessed this well, I mean I guess probably because

508
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: people guessed.

509
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 3: It could be could be. Ye, that's science. If if

510
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 3: it happens, it happens. That's what they say about science.

511
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 3: But that's yeah.

512
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 2: But I've never guessed. I've never guessed an Agatha Christie.

513
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: I mean I read, uh, what is the uh? And

514
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: then there were none? And have you read that book?

515
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 3: I have read that one.

516
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: I mean, the the person who did it. I don't know.

517
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: It feels a little unfair, I.

518
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 3: Would say, I would say as well, Yeah, I would

519
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: say I said huh at the end of that one.

520
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a look, Agatha did her thing, and we

521
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 2: love her for it. Yeah, we're all. She's written a

522
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: lot of books. I read a lot of Mary Mary

523
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 2: Higgins Clark in seventh grade.

524
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did that last year.

525
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mary, how did you feel about it?

526
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,239
Speaker 3: I love that stuff. But here's the thing is, I

527
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 3: was I was by myself while I was reading it,

528
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 3: and it's all it's so scary. She's she's really I

529
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 3: don't know how you did this as a seventh grader.

530
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 3: It's really loved it.

531
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 2: I lapped it up. Saw me reading that. They should

532
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 2: have said, we've got a gay son. That should have

533
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: been very clear, but I was balancing it at the time.

534
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 2: With Tom Clancy novels, I was kind of like a

535
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: grandma and a grandpa, but a seventh grade Wow.

536
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 3: Wow Tom Clancy and Mary Higgins clerk.

537
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of these, you know, best sellers. She's the

538
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: queen of suspense. He's the I don't know, army guy.

539
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: I don't remember as much about Tom Clancy as I

540
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: do Mary Higgins. We'll say that she made a bigger impression.

541
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 3: She's yeah, me too. I tried reading a spy novel

542
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 3: and I didn't understand one cent of that industry. That

543
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 3: doesn't it doesn't make any sense to me. Can you

544
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 3: do you understand spy networks?

545
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: Be honest spy networks. I frequently just say I'm too dumb.

546
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: Just keep reading. Eventually this will resolve itself, you know.

547
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 2: I just kind of let a spy thing wash over

548
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: me because eventually it's just like, there's so much double crossing,

549
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: there's so many disguises and ins and outs that I

550
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: just think I have to trust that the author has

551
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: figured it out for me, and I try to enjoy

552
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: the you know, going to an exotic location or you know,

553
00:29:54,880 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: a backstabbing but the mystery a spy thing frequently confuses me.

554
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, really confusing stuff. Yeah, really confusing.

555
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean speaking of confusing, yes, speaking of mysteries.

556
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: This feels like there has never been a better moment

557
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: to kind of just go at you here. Look, you

558
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: and I are just kind of meeting as of right now.

559
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: But I was aware of you from Afar. We have

560
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: a lot of mutual friends and what have you is

561
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 2: And I've always loved Joe Firestone from Afar, and so

562
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: I was so excited when you agreed to be on

563
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: this podcast. I said, no gifts. I thought, Joe's gonna

564
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: come on. She does it all, she knows it all,

565
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: She'll be the perfect guest. Nothing will go wrong, you know,

566
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: we won't come close to blows and then eventually maybe

567
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: we'll meet in person and continue to have a pleasant time.

568
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: So I was a little upset yesterday. You know, I

569
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: went out to the mailbox as I do, and you know,

570
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: you never know what you're going to find in the mailbox,

571
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: something stressful, something exciting, maybe the weekly circular. And I

572
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: opened it and found a little red envelope address to me,

573
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: and it was the return address, I will say, says Firestone,

574
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 2: and I thought that's strange. Joe, or at least someone

575
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 2: with the last name Firestone will be on the podcast tomorrow.

576
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: I put it away. I didn't give it a second thought.

577
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: And now, just talking to you here, I'm kind of

578
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: having a you know, flashback to yesterday, and I'm thinking, oh,

579
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: maybe I should just approach you and ask you is

580
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: this a gift for me?

581
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? I know you sent no gifts, but.

582
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: Sometimes that's all you have to say for yourself.

583
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I heard you the host with the

584
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: most and I couldn't come and be handed.

585
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: Well, should I open it here on the show?

586
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: I suppose.

587
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm happy to get into this. It's a little envelope.

588
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: As I said, it's red. It has both of our

589
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: addresses on it, which I will politely not share publicly.

590
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 3: Your choice.

591
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: There's a little there's a beautiful stamp on it with

592
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 2: a black cat and a raven, which I love. It's

593
00:32:54,960 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 2: a little spooky, little Halloween yes, And so now we're

594
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: just gonna try to get some envelope noise. Let's see

595
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 2: if that it's too bad. I don't have an envelope

596
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: A letter opener for a sword or hopefully we're getting

597
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 2: a little creek. Something's just dropped into my lap.

598
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, what's happened.

599
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 2: I've got a backup. Something has spilled it. I've okay,

600
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: give me one moment. Okay, there's okay. So there is

601
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: something else in here. There's some sort of letter or

602
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: some paper or a card. But and I could be wrong,

603
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong. But the thing they just

604
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: spilled into my lap are an orange and a green

605
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: tic tac?

606
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

607
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: Should I before we get into the tic TACs? Should

608
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: I open the card and read it?

609
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? Why not? Oh?

610
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: This is an adorable It's kind of a little everything

611
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: about this package is very autumn. You know, it's kind

612
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: of a it is.

613
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 3: The first day of spring, so I figured why not.

614
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: This episode was recorded in October twenty eighteen. No, it's

615
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: a little mountain scene with you know, some fall leaves.

616
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: It's absolutely gorgeous. And now we're going to open it up,

617
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 2: it says Hay Bridger. And now this is addressed, I

618
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: mean dated three sixteen of twenty two, twenty twenty two. Sorry,

619
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: I know you said no gifts. Hope you enjoy these

620
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: fruity tic TACs. I bet you've never tasted anything like

621
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 2: the green one show Firestone, and You're absolutely right. I've

622
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: never had I've had an orange tictac, have never had

623
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 2: a green Tictac, and I'm gonna I'm gonna taste it.

624
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: I mean, it's obviously interesting that we were just talking

625
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: about kind of a difficult journey across the country with

626
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: my book, and now we have two tic TACs who

627
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: did the same.

628
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: Can I can im I get this recommendation? Please please

629
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 3: have the orange one first, okay, because I have had

630
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 3: more experiences and.

631
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 2: I yeah, I want to talk about the orange because

632
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: I think it's an incredibly undervalued, underrated flavor which has

633
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 2: been around about as long as I can remember. I'm

634
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: putting it into my mouth now. So far it tastes nothing.

635
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: It takes a minute for a tick Tack to kind

636
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: of kick in.

637
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 3: Not sure, guess I'm not sure.

638
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: But and I could be proven wrong in this very

639
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: moment because I haven't had an orange tic Tack and

640
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: probably I would say seven years I bet seven years

641
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: ago I had a tictack biting them to it to

642
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: try to get.

643
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 3: Is it coming out?

644
00:35:54,440 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: It's coming out? In the lightest, lightest possible away. I

645
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: wonder if it's lost.

646
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: No, it was sealed in by an envelope. There's no

647
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 3: way it could have lost a hundred flavor.

648
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 2: This is making me. I'm not kidding. The flavor is

649
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: as weak as a tictac possibly could be. It feels

650
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 2: like a mildly sweet, like the most mild I could.

651
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: I could almost mistake this as a pebble. I'm like,

652
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 2: if I had never had an orange tictack, I would

653
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 2: not be able to even begin to sense the flavor

654
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 2: of this thing.

655
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 3: Well, I just don't know where the flavor would have gone.

656
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 3: Can you taste the letter? Taste the letter?

657
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: Let me taste the Oh, I'm using my molars. I'm

658
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: grinding the tictac. I'm finally tasting a spark of orange.

659
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 3: Oh, spark.

660
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: A spark doesn't smell okay. I just licked it, okay,

661
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: and it tastes like nothing.

662
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 3: Okay. Well, and there's that's a mystery.

663
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: Okay. I'm I am going to get I'm going to

664
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: taste the green one in a minute. But I do

665
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: need so, But I don't have some sort of palate cleanser.

666
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a glass drink of water here.

667
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems s if you know, that would be worse.

668
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 3: What are you cleansing if it didn't, if it only

669
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 3: had a spark, you knows.

670
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: I just want to make sure my palate is absolutely

671
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: as neutral as possible for this experience that you're promising

672
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: in the card, unlike anything I've ever tasted. Now, are

673
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: you a regular tic tac eater? But you had two

674
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: different types of tic TACs that you were, and enough

675
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: to spare two of one of each to send across

676
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: the country. Did you go out and buy tic TACs

677
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: in order to send them to me?

678
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: One could say so?

679
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 2: And where are the rest of the tic TACs now?

680
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 3: Well? Eating them quite a bit, and so now we're

681
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 3: down to the very drinks if you can.

682
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 2: That's my favorite part of I mean, outside of, of course,

683
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 2: the flavor that I was kind of championing earlier. Uh,

684
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: the package of a tic tac, although probably not good

685
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: for the environment at this point, it's a deeply plastic case,

686
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 2: deeply plastic, but I love it. It's almost like a

687
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: little medical device. It's it looks like something out of

688
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: a lab. You know, you could fill that with blood.

689
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 2: It's the perfect shape. It has the fun little lid

690
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: that you can pull off, open up, and close. And honestly,

691
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 2: for what does a box of tic TACs cost at

692
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 2: this point a dollar? Fifty?

693
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 3: Well, I actually use two dollars.

694
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: Two dollars, but you're in New York and I feel

695
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 2: like you're getting, you know, are fifty cents more.

696
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 3: Hey did you ever? Did you have? I don't know

697
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 3: how old you are, I'm sure you're in your twenties.

698
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 3: But if you are familiar with the smint.

699
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: Smint, describe what it is because that sounds vaguely familiar.

700
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 3: If you like the tic Tac container, you're gonna love smint.

701
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: Smint is a blue container with a push button top,

702
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 3: so you push down the top and then out comes

703
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: one single smint at the bottom.

704
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: Oh no, that's like kind of a Gerbil device.

705
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 3: It's exactly like that.

706
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: And why is is there a reason it's called smint?

707
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 2: What does the S do for mint?

708
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: Probably like sneaky. Sneaky probably stands for sneaky mint.

709
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: Are they a good flavor?

710
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: I was either a strong flavor, probably the strongest on

711
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 3: the market when it was around.

712
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: Like a nice that to me seems like an early

713
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 2: thousands product, does that?

714
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, a fresh breath fresh breath aid. When you

715
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: were in high school.

716
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: Was that one of the little strips you would put

717
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: on your tongue and it would dissolve?

718
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: No?

719
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 3: Oh those are fun those, but you really can't have

720
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 3: more than one. And you ever have you ever put

721
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 3: one of those? If you put that in? Have you

722
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 3: put that in? Put a mask on? Oh boy, you're

723
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 3: gonna have trouble, trouble, trouble trouble.

724
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 2: You had one of those that recently? Yeah, yeah, within

725
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: the pandemic, you've had one of the what are those

726
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: even called, like a breath strip or something?

727
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, breath strip. Yeah, I had one of those that

728
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 3: put a mask on. Oh, my eyes were upset.

729
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 2: That sounds intoxicating.

730
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty bad, as you know, blinded by

731
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 3: my own breath.

732
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 2: Where do you even buy those? Because I don't feel

733
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: like you see them by the gum.

734
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 3: No, they're not with the gum, are they by the flaws? There?

735
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 2: By the flaws, they're kind of like a little skin

736
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 2: or a scale.

737
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of like skin, tongue skin.

738
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: That's the experience of an eating skin. While we have

739
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 2: something for.

740
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 3: You, Yeah, eating skin that hurts your eyes. Yeah, you're

741
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 3: gonna love this though. It's great.

742
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: Do you feel like it's time for me to get

743
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: into this green tic tac.

744
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 3: Or do you think it's sounded there? Are you ready? Yeah?

745
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 2: I mean I don't want you to tell me what

746
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: flavor it is. I want to try to guess because

747
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 2: I think that this could either be green apple or lime.

748
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: I mean, there are other green things that could potentially be,

749
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: but it's not a vegetable flavor. I'm gonna put it

750
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 2: in my mouth and begin the journey. This might take

751
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: a minute, so I might as well put it in.

752
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: It's too have a microphone right in my mouth so

753
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: people could hear my saliva?

754
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 3: Can you do gives teeth?

755
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: Sound the two? This is aurll hell? Pretty much? Everyone?

756
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,479
Speaker 2: Okay the flavor. I already am sensing a flavor which

757
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 2: is way beyond what the orange was doing. The orange,

758
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: as you know, did not work until I had completely

759
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: crunched it in the back of my mouth, off the

760
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: top of my I mean, my initial reaction is this

761
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: is green apple, but it's becoming more and more clear

762
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 2: that this is green apple. Am I right?

763
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: Yeah? What have you ever tasted that No, have.

764
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 2: I ever tasted green apple candy you're asking, or this

765
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 2: sensation of a green apple.

766
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 3: In a candy, sensation of green apple in a candy.

767
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: Never. I have actually have a very personal relationship to

768
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: green apple because in third grade the Saint Patrick's Day party,

769
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 2: everyone got to bring some green food. Everyone brought green

770
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 2: apple candy and it made me sick. Oh, this might

771
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: be the first time I've had green apple flavor since

772
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: I was nine years old. It's not third grade, and

773
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: it's not making me sick. Oh, I've just beitten into it.

774
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: And it's sour, and this is sensational. That's truly like

775
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: an apple. I love this. This is way better than

776
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: the orange. Are you do like this? Do you like

777
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 2: the slavers? I think it's incredible.

778
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 3: I thought it was fantastic. That's what I sent it

779
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 3: to you, that this is a fantastic wind?

780
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: Is that?

781
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 3: I mean?

782
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: My question though, obviously the job of a tic tac

783
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,959
Speaker 2: is to make your mouth smell fresher, But the idea

784
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 2: of this making my mouth my breath's more sour, I

785
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: don't know that that's quite what you want. I mean,

786
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 2: I'm not mister tic tac. Uh never will be but

787
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: I imagine they know more than I do as far

788
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: as breath freshening, so I think, I mean, as far

789
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 2: as just a snack. What an absence? I mean flavor

790
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: perr an inch. You're not gonna get a better I'm

791
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: going to say on this podcast right now, that thing

792
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 2: is the size of a bead, and my mouth is

793
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: exploding with flavor. I could eat an entire sandwich and

794
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: not get that burst of flavor. I think it's amazing,

795
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 2: and I'm not exaggerating. I truly think that that is

796
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: a delicious mint tick attack reach out. Do they describe

797
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: this tick tac as a sour apple or just green apple?

798
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: They don't say, They don't say, they don't say anything.

799
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: No can be true.

800
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 3: There's no copy.

801
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: You found a plastic container with green pill shaped items

802
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 2: in it and sent me one.

803
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 3: I'll tell you. Wait. Wait questions hold on, there's hold on,

804
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 3: there's a oh gosh, wait my press stickers covering those

805
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 3: things this questions Okay, okay, hold on, this is really

806
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 3: getting good. Okay. Questions one eight hundred six eight eight

807
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 3: three five five two.

808
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: Should I try to call them now?

809
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 3: Yes? Call them now? Okay?

810
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: At this point, uh Tictac brand ambassador, did pick up

811
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 2: the phone, was not happy to be talking to me,

812
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 2: did not want to tell me what the green flavor

813
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: of the tic Tac was, told me to go to

814
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: the website, and hung up before I could even ask

815
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: if we could record the audio. So that's, you know,

816
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 2: a little behind the scenes of reaching out to Tic Tac,

817
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: reaching out to your favorite brands is you know, it's

818
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: not always a sunny experience. And that's fine. Oh yeah,

819
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 2: hung up on now, wow to use the audio?

820
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 3: Okay, hold on, Ticktac.

821
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 2: How do you call yourself a brand ambassador if you're

822
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: not willing to answer a simple question about Ticktack?

823
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 3: Really tough.

824
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 2: That guy was not happy to hear from me.

825
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 3: He was. He was really not in a good place

826
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 3: with us. But listen, here's the thing. Here's the Tictac

827
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: flavors we have. Okay, that was a bust, but here

828
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 3: we go. So we have now Okay, so there's a

829
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 3: new tic Tac, a new tic Tac coca cola flavor.

830
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 2: Oh no, that doesn't feel right to me.

831
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot going on here.

832
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 2: How many flavors do they have?

833
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 3: I'm looking right now and it's looking like a there's

834
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 3: a tic TAC messenger. Do we want to go through

835
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 3: the head?

836
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 2: Is that like a chat bot?

837
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 3: Yeah?

838
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 2: Uh huh ask the chatbot, see if that has an

839
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 2: answer for us.

840
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 3: Okay, great, create your message type here. Okay, So I say, okay, idea,

841
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 3: Oh this is not this is not helpful at all.

842
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll put this in the chat. This is

843
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 3: really not helpful. This is not customer service at all.

844
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 2: Okay, it's sending a tic TAC generator. What share? This

845
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: is just something to put a message on a like

846
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: a picture of a tic tac. Is that what I'm

847
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: looking at here?

848
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what this is for.

849
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 2: You create like a little tic tac character almost you

850
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: can put a hat on a tictac. They're blushing. U.

851
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: There's let's see, there's nothing to show. This is as

852
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 2: far from customer service as you're going to get. It says,

853
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 2: it's an augmented reality experience. What so I can have

854
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: the tic tac like up here in my room? Is

855
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 2: that what we're talking about?

856
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 3: Okay? Okay, I figured out there's Okay. There's currently one, two, three,

857
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 3: four five. There are five flavors of tic Tac on

858
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 3: the market.

859
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: Are you basically creating jelly beans at this point? Breath

860
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: mint Okay, let's hear them.

861
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 3: Coca Cola winter green okay, Big Berry Adventure, Oh, I

862
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 3: love fresh mint? Orange? And fruit Adventure.

863
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 2: Why none of them are green?

864
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 3: Fruit Adventure is where the green comes from? Now? The

865
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 3: fruit a Venture now that I read on the website

866
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 3: has four flavors.

867
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: Oh, tanny orange? Okay? Which is that? That's what I had?

868
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

869
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 2: Which was not? I mean this?

870
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 3: I mean yeah? Yes? Two is sweet cherry.

871
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: Oh okay, nice red? I imagine that was bright red.

872
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 3: Three is a juicy passion fruit.

873
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: Oh what color is that?

874
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 3: Yellow?

875
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: Yellow? How cand that makes sense?

876
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 3: Are you ready for the one I need to know?

877
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 3: Tart apple?

878
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: Tart apple? So I was wrong with both of my guesses,

879
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 2: neither sour nor green.

880
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 3: This is really hard. I mean, we really tried our

881
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 3: best to figure out the answers here, and luckily the

882
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 3: tic tac A website was very helpful ultimately, but wow,

883
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 3: really tough.

884
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to get anyone in trouble, but that

885
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: was I thought I was going to get answers to

886
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: whatever I wanted, and I can't even get a you

887
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: know what? The green flavor is.

888
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is you know, I think that honestly,

889
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 3: this is the tic Tac. I guess what we learned

890
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 3: is that TikTok's down to business, no poppy, no funny business.

891
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 3: And that's that's exactly what happens. So then when they

892
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 3: get apple, it's tart apple strictly business, although.

893
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 2: They're talking about big berry adventures. And I mean the question,

894
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 2: the thing that I'm thinking about Tiktac is, you know,

895
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 2: they have one that's just literally called orange, and then

896
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 2: they have one called big beer. Why is the orange

897
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 2: not fun sounding? Why isn't it like outrageous orange?

898
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 3: You think that big berry adventure sounds more fun than orange?

899
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: I mean only I can only speak to my own experience,

900
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: but a big berry adventure sounds like something I'd rather

901
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 2: do than orange.

902
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 3: You'd rather go. If I said you want to go

903
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:02,479
Speaker 3: on a big berry adventure, you would say yeah.

904
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 2: I would say, my bag is packed, when do you

905
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 2: pick me up?

906
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 3: What if I asked you, do you want to go

907
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 3: on a fruit adventure?

908
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 2: Fruit adventure? It would be like how much dow tickets cost? Oh,

909
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 2: let me look at my calendar. I would seriously consider it.

910
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, you really wouldn't be as enthusiastic as a

911
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 3: big berry adventure.

912
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, and orange or winter Green or Coca Cola.

913
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 2: Don't pick up the phone, don't email me, don't ask,

914
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: not even it's not happening. I mean, would you go

915
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 2: on a big berry adventure?

916
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 3: Well, I guess it kind of depends you know what's

917
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 3: going on there. The thing is is if it's involved

918
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 3: in picking berries, I am in. Have you had a

919
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 3: berry picked in? Have you picked it?

920
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: I've never I mean outside of like, you know, strawberry

921
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 2: plants and people's gardens, or it sounds like I'm going

922
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 2: through people's gardens looking through strawberries like a badger or something,

923
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: a little deer just eating people's berries. But you know,

924
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: like a neighbor would have a strawberry plant or whatever,

925
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 2: and you would. I nothing better in the world. There's

926
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: nothing better than just eating a strawberry directly off the plant.

927
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: Have you gone on like a berry picking, for lack

928
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 2: of a better word, adventure.

929
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 3: I went on a big berry adventure ones I picked blackberries. Oh,

930
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 3: I tell you what, a lot of people don't think

931
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 3: you should microwave fruit. But that's because they never had

932
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 3: hot blackberries? Whoa that so much better than cold? You

933
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 3: gotta put your microwave in the fruit, I mean whatever.

934
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 3: You will switch that.

935
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 2: In post right, Oh yeah, that will all be flipped around.

936
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: We'll use computers to make that the perfect statement, just

937
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 2: a beautiful poetic you know. But no, I look this

938
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: is This may come as a surprise to you, but

939
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: one of my favorite ways to eat a BlackBerry is

940
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 2: hot in a BlackBerry cobbler. Oh phenomenal, Yeah it is.

941
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 2: I love that cold BlackBerry, but hot? Who never microwaved?

942
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 3: You have one?

943
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 2: How long are you microwaving the berry?

944
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 3: Fifteen seconds?

945
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 2: They're just popping it in your mouth. Are is like

946
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 2: a full bowl of blackberries? Or do you just place

947
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: one in the middle of the carousel and let it go?

948
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it depends on you're serving size. But

949
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 3: you really don't have to chew these things. And you know,

950
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 3: the microwave breaks the skin right down, makes you wonder

951
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 3: what it's doing in there, But it is. It's nice.

952
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 2: It's nice, kind of a mush. Are you eating it

953
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 2: with a spoon?

954
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? You should, you should because otherwise you're going to

955
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 3: get you know, every time you touch markers, do you

956
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 3: get them all over your hands.

957
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 2: Oh, there's no question. No matter how careful I am, I.

958
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 3: Get markers all And this is the same with fruit.

959
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 3: With you know, fruit, get it all over my hands.

960
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: And when you're eating the hot fruit with a spoon,

961
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 2: are you drinking anything? Are you combining it with a

962
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 2: dry toast?

963
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? You make my life sound so cool. I guess,

964
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 3: I guess, I guess. If I'm eating hot fruit, usually

965
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 3: I would do it something. Just have fruit by itself.

966
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 3: Sounds like it's kind of, you know, a little bit tough.

967
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 3: You know that's that's kind of it's tough. You got

968
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 3: to add it to something, right, I.

969
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: Mean, I'm picturing you doing this in a corvette cut

970
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 2: or like a ski boat or something, So if that helps.

971
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 3: Do you have a convertible?

972
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 2: I would love to have a convertible. I would love

973
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 2: to cruise around.

974
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 3: You don't have one.

975
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: I don't have a convertible. Have you ever driven a convertible?

976
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 3: No?

977
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 2: I've never driven one either, and I don't I actually

978
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 2: don't know that. I would enjoy myself really too much wind.

979
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 2: Oh you don't like windet, I don't like wind. Okay,

980
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 2: do you think you'd have a good time.

981
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think i'd have a great time. Well, one time,

982
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 3: I'd tell you this. One time. I used to be

983
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 3: caterer and my boss she lived next near me, in

984
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 3: the same neighborhood, so she'd take me home sometimes at night,

985
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 3: she'd drive me home into convertible. Oh this woman didn't

986
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 3: even like me, and boy, were those the best times

987
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 3: of my life. Driving over the bridge, wind in the hair,

988
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 3: smelling like food is the best. It's the best feeling.

989
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 2: A convertible is an excellent car for someone who works

990
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 2: in food service, because every time I worked in food service,

991
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 2: I would come home smelling like the restaurant. But if

992
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 2: you're in a convertible, you can just go to your

993
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: next destination that's getting blown out and you smell like

994
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: the night air.

995
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 3: Oh it was heaven. It was heaven.

996
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 2: What sort of convertible was it, I.

997
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 3: Don't know, something probably green.

998
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 2: Was it like a fancy new convertible or was it

999
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 2: like an older I think it was.

1000
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 3: An older model. I mean, this was really this was

1001
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 3: really the taps for me. It was really really nice

1002
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 3: that convertible ride.

1003
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: Now that we're getting into it, I will say one

1004
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 2: of my two dream cars is the Chrysler le Baron,

1005
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 2: which is a convertible car. You know. I think they

1006
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 2: were probably made between nineteen eighty six and nineteen ninety two.

1007
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 2: Snappy little convertible car. I would be happy to drive

1008
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: one of those. I would have to put on a

1009
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 2: lot of sunscreen. Yeah, maybe I have a goggle. But

1010
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: I saw a woman driving one a few months ago,

1011
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: and I'm not an advocate of smoking, you know, I

1012
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 2: don't think that smoking is healthy. This woman, she had

1013
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 2: kind of a shock of blonde hair. She was driving

1014
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 2: a white Chrysler Le Baron convertible, giant cigarette in her hand,

1015
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: and I thought, that is the coolest woman I've ever seen.

1016
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been, so that's really cool.

1017
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 2: I want to be that person. Wow, So maybe I

1018
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:03,959
Speaker 2: would drive a convertible. It's hard to say.

1019
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 3: Have you ever had somebody say, oh, I saw you

1020
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,959
Speaker 3: walking near I saw you driving, and then they didn't

1021
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 3: say hi, And then you are afraid of what you

1022
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 3: are truly.

1023
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 2: Like because the fact that they chose not to approach me,

1024
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 2: or they just.

1025
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 3: That they like, you know, maybe they just couldn't come

1026
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 3: say hi, but they saw you in your natural elements.

1027
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 2: Oh, kind of just in the wild and I got

1028
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 2: to observe you without me putting up whatever, putting on

1029
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 2: whatever mask I put on to interact with them. Basically, huh.

1030
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 2: I've never thought about that, but it's terrifying.

1031
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 3: It is a little bit. Yeah.

1032
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 2: I mean with car situations, I'm usual. I'm frequently singing

1033
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 2: or clapping my hands.

1034
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 3: Clapping your hands, you would, I'll.

1035
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 2: Clap along to a song, I'll dance. I have the

1036
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 2: time of my life in the car. I think everyone

1037
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 2: should have the time of their life in a car.

1038
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 2: If you're not listening to music the exact music you

1039
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 2: want at a high volume, why are you paying for

1040
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 2: a car at your little personal dance machine?

1041
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: Do it?

1042
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 3: Wow? Do you like that? Do you like that song

1043
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 3: Boys by Carly XCX? Oh?

1044
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 2: Of course it's an incredible song.

1045
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 3: That one's a really good song.

1046
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 2: It's got the little like Mario Coin sound. Yeah, huh,

1047
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 2: which is so addictive.

1048
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 3: Do you have any other good songs?

1049
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 2: Off the top of my head? Oh, too much pressure.

1050
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: You can't do that to me.

1051
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 3: Okay, just one other song? Okay, what just one other song?

1052
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 3: That's cool. Just we can have a playlist of two

1053
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 3: to remember us back.

1054
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 2: Oh, I'll say there's a song by a band called

1055
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 2: Young Gov and it's called Can I Just Call You?

1056
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 2: That's very fun to listen to, but also a little heartbreaking,

1057
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 2: but also reflective of our time.

1058
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 3: I can't wait, I can't wait kind of.

1059
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 2: I think it kind of deals with the you know,

1060
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 2: texting or bing on your phone with someone without actually

1061
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 2: calling them. It's a perfect song as far as I'm concerned.

1062
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh. Hey, have you ever

1063
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 3: heard that song? On the telephone?

1064
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: Under the telephone, on the telephone? Oh h the I

1065
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 2: believe that the band was The Nerves and then Blondie

1066
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 2: covered it.

1067
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 3: Wait wait, wait, wait, hold on on the telephone, hanging

1068
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 3: on the telephone, hold on, Oh I see what you're

1069
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 3: talking about. That's because I said the name wrong. Okay, Okay,

1070
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 3: I figured it out.

1071
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: What is it?

1072
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 3: Bless the telephone, Bless the telephone?

1073
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? Who sings it?

1074
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 3: Uh? Lobby sifferent?

1075
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 2: What is this song? I want to hear a little

1076
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 2: bit of it. I'm gonna play a little bit for

1077
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 2: myself and try to describe. Okay, YouTube is loading. Okay,

1078
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 2: we're getting a New York Times article or advertisement. I'm skipping.

1079
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 2: I'm already into it. It's a little folky. It's kind

1080
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: of a fingerpicked acoustic guitar. This is a This is

1081
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 2: the sort of song that will make me ball.

1082
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 3: I don't listen to it right now.

1083
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 2: This if that is a I mean, I haven't even

1084
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 2: I listened to ten seconds of that song, and I

1085
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 2: can't recommend that song enough. That is that's the sort

1086
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 2: of song that you put on a playlist to, you know,

1087
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 2: and people are so impressed with you. That's a gorgeous song.

1088
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 2: I made a playlist last year and I put this song.

1089
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 2: What is it called. It's by a band called The

1090
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 2: Female Species, and it's called Till the Moon Don't Shine.

1091
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 3: Ooh, okay, such.

1092
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 2: A gorgeous piece of music.

1093
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 3: Till the Moon Don't Shine just.

1094
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 2: You know, one of these old songs that makes you

1095
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 2: just feel the entire human experience.

1096
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 3: Wow.

1097
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 2: Wow, Well, this is a nice little recommendation corner we've

1098
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 2: kind of found.

1099
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 3: Is nice, really nice.

1100
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 2: Okay, But just to be clear for the listener, if

1101
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: you're looking up Bless the Telephone, it's by an artist.

1102
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 2: You want to spell the artist's name.

1103
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, is l A b I uh? And then seth

1104
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 3: is s I F F R E.

1105
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 2: Where did you find that song. It's so beautiful it came,

1106
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 2: it came through. I do think songs about telephones and

1107
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:40,479
Speaker 2: calling other people are by nature very sad, poignant things

1108
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 2: because it's about connecting over a distance. Yeah, you're just

1109
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 2: you're kind of This is a tip to all songwriters,

1110
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: our large songwriting audience. If you're looking to Penna hit,

1111
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 2: think about calling someone and the experience of hearing someone's

1112
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 2: voice right next to your ear, The intimacy, the connection,

1113
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 2: maybe the loss of connection, the echoes of time. It's

1114
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 2: a perfect arena for songwriting.

1115
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 3: It's good. That's really good. I'm so glad. You know

1116
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 3: there's multi hyphenite musicians around here that's listen to this.

1117
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 3: It's really good.

1118
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 2: Joe, I think it's time to play a game. Will

1119
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 2: you play a game with me? Yes, you're very good

1120
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 2: at games. You've kind of you are, you know, a

1121
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 2: game genius. So I'm a little intimidated. But I think

1122
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: we're going to play a game called Gift Master. Okay,

1123
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 2: I need a number between one and ten from you.

1124
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 3: I want to say eight.

1125
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 2: Okay. I have to do just some light calculating to

1126
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 2: get our game pieces right.

1127
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: Now.

1128
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 2: You can recommend something promote something. You have the microphone

1129
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 2: for some amount of time. I'll be right back.

1130
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I guess, you know, I guess it's really

1131
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 3: sometimes I feel like I can't draw, and today I

1132
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 3: go gold Flower and then I clicked on the images,

1133
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 3: and you know, I just kind of tried to draw

1134
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 3: what I saw it. Did it turn out? No, but

1135
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 3: it kind of did. It kind of did a little

1136
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 3: bit look like what I thought of Flower did look

1137
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 3: like closer than I've ever gotten. So if you think

1138
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 3: you can, you also, yesterday I couldn't. My sink was broken,

1139
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 3: and so I YouTube how to fix sink and I

1140
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 3: actually did remove a lot of stuff. Didn't fix it,

1141
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 3: but did remove a lot of stuff. So I'm just saying,

1142
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 3: the internet pretty is helpful. Pretty much.

1143
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 2: That's a perfect recommendation. Okay, you've been very helpful. This

1144
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 2: is how the game played. The game works, gift Master,

1145
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 2: I tell you three gifts. You'll be giving away three items, experiences,

1146
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 2: what have you. And I'm going to name three celebrities,

1147
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 2: famous people. You're gonna tell me which person you're going

1148
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,959
Speaker 2: to give which gift? And why does that make sense?

1149
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 3: Yes?

1150
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 2: Pretty simple? Okay, these are the gifts you'll be giving.

1151
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 2: So this first one is combat training, so that's kind

1152
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 2: of an experience or a skill you'll be giving them.

1153
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 2: Number two is certainly an experience a food born illness,

1154
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 2: So take your pick. As far as food born illness goes,

1155
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 2: salmonilla tapeworm, I don't know. I guess the tapeworm is

1156
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 2: more of a parasite. So, but that's up to you.

1157
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 2: And number three is hardwood floors. So that is a

1158
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 2: beautiful addition to a home. Okay, these are the people

1159
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 2: you'll be giving them to. Number one is actor Dustin Hoffman, okay.

1160
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 2: Number two is actor Salma Hayek, and number three is

1161
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 2: NBA great Scottie Pippen.

1162
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 3: Okay, So, Samahayek, I think I'm giving her combat training, Okay.

1163
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 3: Why I think she's so strong and she could only

1164
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 3: get stronger.

1165
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 2: That's a good piece, a good way to go about that.

1166
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Skottie pipping, I would say, I want to give

1167
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 3: him hardwood floors. There's nothing like giving a basketball, but

1168
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 3: her hardwood floors. That's the best gift you to give it.

1169
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 2: It was exactly what to do with them.

1170
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 3: He knows exactly what to do with him.

1171
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 2: You can never have too many hardwood floors.

1172
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you cover in wat and then you jump, but

1173
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 3: you jump around, that's what you do. So then I

1174
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 3: got to give a food born illness to Dustin Hoffman.

1175
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 3: It's hard to say it as a sentence and it's

1176
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 3: harder even to execute. But I'll do it. I'll do it.

1177
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 2: I mean, can you imagine what sort of food borne

1178
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 2: illness he would get?

1179
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 3: Well, one time I got something from rice. You had

1180
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 3: to it comes from rice more than you think because

1181
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 3: rice it sits in a temperature that's not food safe

1182
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 3: sometimes because you make a big bat of rice and

1183
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 3: then you don't think about make it a food safe

1184
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,439
Speaker 3: certified just so you know. And so I would say

1185
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 3: that the rice could get you something where you have

1186
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 3: to choose whether you're gonna get which which product on

1187
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 3: the rug. You know, one of one end is going

1188
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 3: in the toilet and one end goes on the rug.

1189
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 3: So you got to pick which one. And there is

1190
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 3: a right answer, you know what it is. You know

1191
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 3: which one you want on the rug.

1192
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 2: You had this conversation with a fellow chiropractor.

1193
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 3: Sure sure, sure, I said, yeah, listenday, you wanna you

1194
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,919
Speaker 3: wanna what do you wanna do? You wanna you want

1195
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 3: to put the pencil things in the in the rug

1196
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 3: or you want to pencil things in the toilet, And

1197
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 3: the answer is pencil things in the toilet.

1198
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 2: Pencil. I think that's a beautifully played Dustin Hoffman. He's

1199
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 2: probably it's probably been years since he had a food bornail. Once,

1200
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 2: you know, you get to a certain level and you

1201
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 2: kind of leave food borne illness behind. And it's always

1202
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 2: nice to have a memory of your you know, your

1203
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 2: diarrheas you're throwing ups even late in life.

1204
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 3: Yes, you just don't eat it again. You know, you

1205
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 3: just cust your clear. That's all, no big deal.

1206
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 2: That's tricky with rice though, I mean, are you does

1207
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 2: the thought of eating rice now make you sick?

1208
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 3: I love rice.

1209
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 2: It's so my, It's so just a mild thing to eat.

1210
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 3: I love rice. I love it. I love it. I

1211
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 3: love it. I make it with Oh, I put that.

1212
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 3: I put butter in there, and I put it with

1213
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 3: them with the with this bullion. Oh it turns out

1214
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 3: so salty. Oh, it's so good. You ever do that.

1215
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 2: I've never, shockingly, I've never had butter and rice. What

1216
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1217
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 3: You try to put bullion and butter.

1218
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 2: How much butter?

1219
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 3: Tablespoon?

1220
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 2: Tablespoon? Okay, so not a whole cube of butter.

1221
01:06:58,320 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 3: Kind of depends on how you look at a cube.

1222
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's really good. You really are gonna love it.

1223
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 2: Sounds lovelyather. Are you eating it with a vegetable?

1224
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 3: Sure? You put something on top of it. And you

1225
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 3: can't just eat rice sometimes because sometimes you really do

1226
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 3: need to eat protein. But it is so can't recommend

1227
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:15,919
Speaker 3: it enough.

1228
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 2: It's a lovely recipe that's free to the listener. Yeah, okay,

1229
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 2: you played that perfectly. Let's answer a listener question before

1230
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 2: people freak out.

1231
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 3: Okay, you know people.

1232
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 2: Write into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. Oh,

1233
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 2: and they have problems. They have concerns things are not

1234
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: going right in their lives, mostly about gifts or social situations.

1235
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 2: And then I end up kind of having to deal

1236
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 2: with their garbage. And so I bring a guest along.

1237
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 2: Will you answer one with me?

1238
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? I'd love to.

1239
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 2: Okay, here's here's a good one, says dear Bridger and

1240
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 2: sparkling guest. My husband and I need your help with

1241
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 2: a gift for our retired nextdoor neighbors. A friendly older

1242
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 2: couple who been so lovely to us since we moved

1243
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 2: in about three and a half years ago. To give

1244
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 2: some background, our homes are close together and we have

1245
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 2: street parking. The husband, let's call him Paul, is very

1246
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 2: personnicoty about parking. We learned in the very few We

1247
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 2: learned in the first few months of being neighbors, so

1248
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 2: we listen. Whoever wrote this is overusing comments. I don't

1249
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 2: want to be unkind, but maybe take the gas take

1250
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 2: the foot off the gas on the commas. Well, we

1251
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 2: learned in the first few months of being neighbors, so

1252
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 2: we try our best to respect that that is persincitty

1253
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 2: about parking. Okay, they're both retired teachers, have a couple grandkids,

1254
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 2: and the wife plays the piano. The situation is this

1255
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 2: on trash days, Mondays and Thursdays, either Paul or his

1256
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,679
Speaker 2: wife let's call her Meg, has been lugging our trash cans,

1257
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 2: which are heavy, back up our yard to the side

1258
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 2: of the house for us after the trash has been

1259
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 2: picked up. While this is a nice gesture, I can't

1260
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 2: help but wonder if Paul is annoyed that our cans

1261
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 2: are sitting at in the street too long. Okay, I'm

1262
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 2: seeing what's happening here, messing with parking, and he just

1263
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 2: takes matters into his own hands by passive aggressively bringing

1264
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 2: our cans back up for us before I even get

1265
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 2: the chance to go out there and do it myself.

1266
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 2: With every passing trash day, my husband and I feel

1267
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 2: more indebted to this couple. Please help. We want them

1268
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 2: to know we're grateful, but don't really want them doing

1269
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 2: this for us. I need to give them a gift

1270
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 2: before they think that we assume this is just their

1271
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 2: job now, Sincerely, Jay and B. So basically what's happened

1272
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 2: is Jay and B have kind of turned this elderly

1273
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 2: couple into their servants and are trying to back out

1274
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 2: in a way that feels like they don't want to

1275
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 2: take responsibility, and they think that just a one time

1276
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 2: gift is going to be enough for all of the

1277
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 2: times that Paul dragged heavy. And that's something else that

1278
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 2: I'm a little confused about. Heavy heavy garbage cans which

1279
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 2: are empty.

1280
01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 3: We're empty.

1281
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 2: My experience with a trash can you know that's given

1282
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 2: to me by the city or what have you, is

1283
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 2: a large plastic thing on wheels, which are I don't

1284
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 2: know what seven pounds and what J and B are

1285
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 2: describing here sounds like lead mm, which is illegal. Thank you,

1286
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 2: So the already we know someone's breaking the law. I

1287
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 2: don't know if it's the city that they live in

1288
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 2: they're distributing lead garbage cans, or if J and B

1289
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 2: have kind of, you know, taken on a hobby of

1290
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 2: making their own lead garbage cans, which then they then have,

1291
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 2: you know, nearby seniors drag around the city.

1292
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 3: Terrible.

1293
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there is a decent amount of shame

1294
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 2: that these people should be feeling, whether Paul and Meg

1295
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 2: are helping them or not filling the air with lead. Yeah,

1296
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 2: but what sort of gift do we give these I'm

1297
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 2: going to assume injured, uh, retired teachers who dedicated their

1298
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 2: lives to service. They've probably changed. Paul and Meg are

1299
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 2: retired teachers. They Jamie say, uh, these two people have

1300
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:21,839
Speaker 2: molded young lives, young minds and are now dragging garbage.

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Speaker 3: It's that right, shameful?

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01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 2: And I don't know, uh it is. I mean, it's

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01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 2: just flat out shameful. And I don't know that is

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01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 2: there any gift big enough to pay this debt?

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01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? Maybe just maybe some t shirts to say my

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01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 3: neighbors are shameful.

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01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 2: That they can wear while dragging the garbage cans.

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01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that'd be really nice. And and Harry

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01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 3: and David.

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01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 2: Like a nice nuts sampler, uh.

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01:11:56,360 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 3: Moose munch payers oranges from Florida, that all kinds of things.

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01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 3: I think those are called ariola oranges, Aerola oranges.

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01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 2: Pretty sure I've never heard of the stife of orange.

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01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 2: What kind of what are Harry and David doing?

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01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it's called ariola oranges. I'll double check,

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01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 3: but be sure. What do you think they should give?

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01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't imagine that Paul or Meg has

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01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 2: ever had a big berry adventure. Maybe like a small

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01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 2: box of tic TACs. I think that to me, for me,

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01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 2: giving them something as small as a box of tic

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01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 2: TACs will truly solve the problem. Because there's also the

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01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 2: possibility that Paul and Meg are they feel like they're

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01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 2: doing this kind of subtle way of the growing debt

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01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 2: towards them that they don't think their neighbors have quite

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01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 2: noticed yet, and they think that they're going to eventually

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01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 2: be able to call on the neighbors and ask for

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01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 2: the ultimate favor I don't know what the ultimate favor

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01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 2: is going to be.

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01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:58,879
Speaker 3: But that's really scary.

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01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 2: They could ask them to get hill something along those lines,

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01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 2: and you don't want to end up in that place

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01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 2: with your neighbors. So yeah, nip it in the butt,

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01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 2: give them a box of tic TACs. They're insulted, they

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01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 2: stop doing, but you're you're not getting assaulting it.

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01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 3: I just want to say this is that they're not

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01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 3: called Ariola oranges. They're called kara oranges. So I'm sorry,

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01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 3: where did ariola come from? I don't know. I'm sorry

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01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 3: I mentioned it.

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01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:37,719
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if there's a you know, variety

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01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 2: of oranges called Ariola oranges, maybe not sold by Harry

1341
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 2: and David. It feels a little risque for the company. Uh,

1342
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,679
Speaker 2: but so they're selling a kara orange.

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01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 3: Yes, Kara oranges. So I would recommend, you know, I

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01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 3: recommend the orange super pack Orange tick Tacks Kara oranges

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01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 3: if you could find them Ariola oranges and put them

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01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 3: over there, and you know, because red means stuff and

1347
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 3: green means gold, but what about orange? Just keep it,

1348
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 3: keep it a casual. That's the perfect gifts, a perfect.

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01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 2: Gift, and you know then maybe for all we know,

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01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 2: Paul loves doing it and this is his little pastime.

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01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:19,639
Speaker 2: You know, he thought he was going to do something

1352
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 2: with else with his life in retirement and found this

1353
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 2: new passion. So don't rain on his parade.

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01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably ripped a hell.

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01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, his arms are just gigantic, his calves. He's dragging

1356
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 2: that thing up the driveway. This man looks incredible at seventies,

1357
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 2: never looks better.

1358
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 3: Really good. Yeah, And you got to think about these people,

1359
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 3: you know, Vanity.

1360
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 2: You have these deeply vain neighbors only care about their bodies,

1361
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 2: and they'll do anything in including dragged lead garbage cans

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01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 2: around the driveway to keep it tight. And so you're

1363
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 2: giving them t shirts that say my neighbors are shameful.

1364
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 2: We're giving them an orange super pack Tic TACs. And

1365
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 2: eventually you're gonna go out there one day and Paul

1366
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 2: will probably be pinned beneath one of these garbage cans,

1367
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 2: and you say you lifted off of him and the

1368
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 2: debt is repaid. I think it's perfect.

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01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 3: Seems like a fair square deal to.

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01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 2: Me, Joe. We've answered the question more than perfectly. I've

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01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 2: had a new experience it's been exhilarating. It was mysterious. Yeah,

1372
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 2: I think this feels very agathic. Christy, let's just say it.

1373
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 2: You wrote your own little mystery today.

1374
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 3: Well, Linnoy, didn't we?

1375
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 2: Thank you. I've had such a wonderful time with you.

1376
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me on this incredible podcast.

1377
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. I loved it.

1378
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 2: Listener, Now go do your thing. I feel like whatever

1379
01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 2: it is, whatever's in store for you today is going

1380
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 2: to be perfect and incredible, and you'll look back on

1381
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 2: this moment as when you knew that your day was

1382
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 2: everything in your life was going to change for the better.

1383
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:18,799
Speaker 2: Take care of yourself. Bye bye. I said, No Gifts

1384
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 2: is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear

1385
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,879
Speaker 2: friend Analise Nilson and it's beautifully mixed by John Bradley.

1386
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 2: The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle

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1388
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 2: At I said no Gifts, I don't want to hear

1389
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 2: any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of

1390
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:40,680
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1391
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:44,040
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1397
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 1: And I invited you here, thought, I made myself perfectly clear.

1398
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:14,679
Speaker 2: But you're I guess to my home.

1399
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty. And I said, no,

1400
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 1: guess your own presences. Presence enough that I already had

1401
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: too much stuff.

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01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 2: So how did you dan to surbey me