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Speaker 3: kick things off today with a response to some of

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Speaker 3: our older episodes on numeracy the human number sense.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's have it.

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Speaker 3: This is from Charlotte. Charlotte says, Hi, thank you for

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Speaker 3: a great podcast. A while ago, I listened to your

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Speaker 3: episode on numerosity and the approximate number system where you

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Speaker 3: mentioned that we still don't know much about the ideology

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Speaker 3: just like to highlight that I published an article last

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Speaker 3: year on the heritability of the approximate number system in infancy.

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Speaker 3: This is the first study on the heritability of the

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Speaker 3: ans the approximate number system and the largest infant twin

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Speaker 3: study in the world. We found that the ANS was

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Speaker 3: partly heritable but also largely influenced by factors unique to

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Speaker 3: each twin. Not sure if this is interest of interest

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Speaker 3: to you, but here's the link anyway, Best regards, Charlotte.

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Speaker 3: So Oh man, I love getting email like this. Always

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Speaker 3: love to hear from a researcher who's done direct research

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Speaker 3: on a topic we touched on. So I looked into

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Speaker 3: this paper. This is by Charlotte Victorson at All published

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Speaker 3: in the journal Developmental Science just this year twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 3: called infant sense of approximate numerosity, heritability and link to

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Speaker 3: other concurrent traits. So, as Charlotte said, the paper is

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Speaker 3: looking at the approximate number system, which is a very

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Speaker 3: interesting ability that we have in our brains. Of course,

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Speaker 3: it's obvious that we can look at two groups of

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Speaker 3: And the supplies typically to groups of items greater than four.

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Speaker 3: Apparently the brain uses a different system, but obviously this

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Speaker 3: So anyway, thank you so much Charlotte for getting in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, all right. We also heard from folks already

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Speaker 3: My inclination is to agree with you there, Steve. I

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Speaker 2: As ever, thank you for creating your wonderfully weird and

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Speaker 3: Weird House on Danger, Diabolic, and other things to come,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, see you next Monday. But as always we'll have

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Speaker 2: we set aside most serious concerns to just talk about

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Speaker 2: a weird movie on Weird House Cinema.

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Speaker 3: Huge thanks to our excellent audio producer jj Pos. If

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