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This is The Socks Machine Podcast with 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:57.440 your hosts Jim Margolis, James Vegan, and Josh Nelson. 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:01.480 Welcome to a new episode of The Machine podcast, part 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:04.880 of the File Territory Network. I'm your host Josh Nelson, 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.360 and the Major League Baseball trade deadline for the twenty 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:12.080 twenty sixth season is ova as the White Sox made 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:15.840 some moves as they acquired everything on their shopping list. 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:19.560 They wanted a starting pitcher, they wanted another reliever, they 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:23.880 wanted a catcher. They also added another player to the 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:28.160 squad that we weren't expecting before the deadline. Here's Chicago 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:32.120 White Sox Generald manager Chris Gatz explaining the moves and 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:36.080 the rationale behind those moves that he made before the 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:37.520 August third trade deadline. 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:45.560 Hello, everyone, Thanks for getting together this evening after you know, 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.800 the trade deadline kind of you know the trade deadline. 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:52.400 I feel like I've gone through a day night doubleheader myself, 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.680 but couldn't be more excited with what we were able 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.960 to accomplish. Obviously, you're at the mercy of other clubs 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:04.280 and having deep talks and dialogue and a lot of 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:09.160 good ideas, wild ideas, bad ideas come about in those conversations. 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:12.560 But what we were trying to accomplish was certainly a 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:17.320 starting pitcher, which we were able to accomplish with Louis Castillo, 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:23.280 Brenton Doyle, someone that's going to help in the outfield, 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:29.840 Rosa Van, a strong reliever, it's going to help our 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:34.400 pitching staff. And then Joey Bart from a catching standpoint. 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:39.880 So you know, going into this trade deadline, you know 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.080 you don't exactly know who you're going to be able 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:46.000 to acquire, but to be able to get a an 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:50.680 experienced starter like Louis Castillo, a really strong defender with 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:56.560 what we feel like is untapped offensive potential in Brenton 0:02:56.639 --> 0:03:02.519 Doyle and Joey Bart adding depth to our catching group 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:07.160 and someone that is experienced and is only going to help. 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:12.120 And then of course Brosaban that is some who is 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.639 someone that's going to help our bullpen. So feel really 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:19.560 good with what we were able to accomplish, and you know, 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:23.200 I feel like we're well positioned for the remainder of 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.000 the year and we'll see what happens. 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:27.320 One of the goals that Chris Getz in the Chicago 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:30.000 White Sox run off as had was trying to keep 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:33.840 their top ten prospects unless there was a deal out 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.920 there that it made sense for the White Sox just 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:38.400 didn't find that deal. 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:42.080 Yeah, the last couple of days and including today, very 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:48.120 open minded we were, but you know, we did want 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:52.280 to preserve our top prospects in which we felt like 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:57.440 we were able to accomplish and make measurable steps forward 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:01.600 with the talent on our major league club. You know, 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.760 we've got a lot of players that rask for from 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:08.920 our prospect group. I understand that it's not that we 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:13.120 were dismissive and unwilling. It just didn't make sense with 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:19.520 some of the asks. So yeah, I mean it. Yeah, 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.440 it's very clear that you know, a Caleb Bottom or 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:27.880 a Billy Carlson very attractive pieces. But then you you know, 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:32.840 with us wanted to maintain the group that we've been 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:37.360 able to grow on the minor league side. That's only 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:39.680 going to help us in the future. We felt like 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.440 we were able to accomplish not only adding wins to 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:46.480 our major league club, but also maintaining prospect devv. 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:50.200 With acquiring Joey Bart, the Chicago White Sox and Chris 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:53.280 Gatts have to make a decision on the catching situation 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:57.240 between Drew Romo and Edgar Carro Gets explained his rationale 0:04:57.240 --> 0:04:58.760 behind that decision making. 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:04.279 So in the meantime, we are optioning Edgar Carrow with 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:07.960 Joey Bart being the addition here, so we'll do a 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:11.160 combination of he and Romo. Edgar Carroll has done a 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.640 nice job since he's come back. Really, you know, he's 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.760 helped us win games and he's working on both of 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:21.200 receiving an offensive game has taken, you know, a step 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:24.960 forward for where it was earlier, but we've maintained that depth. 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:30.880 I would say when Kyle Tiel comes back, obviously that'll 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:33.880 be the biggest boost we look forward to that time. 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:37.440 In the meantime, we feel like Joey and Romo are gonna, 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:41.599 you know, set us up for you know, wins here 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:44.200 when it comes to the to the month of August. 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:46.599 But in the meantime, we are optioning Edgar Carroll. 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:51.359 There were lots of quality rental starting pitchers in the 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:54.000 sense that they're rentals because they're going to become free 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:57.360 agents after the twenty twenty six season. We explained into 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:00.600 the past couple episodes. Robbie Ray was a tar gonna mind. 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:04.479 He went to San Diego. Kevin Gossman went to Chicago, 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:06.839 but to the Cubs and not the White Sox. I 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.159 still think that would have been a great addition for 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:12.960 the White Sox team. The White Sox didn't acquire any 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.880 of those rental starting pitchers, and Chris Getz explains. 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.120 Why funny names out there that we felt like could 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:23.720 really help us. The asking prices and looking at what 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:26.520 some of those returns were, like, we we just couldn't 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:29.680 match up. And some of that was our unwillingness to 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:35.400 part with the top of our system and also just 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:39.599 how our system is set up right now. And you know, 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:44.320 we've got some guys that are you know, various or 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:47.680 I should say very obvious candidates. Like at the top 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.960 he had top hundred guys. There is a little bit 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:55.640 of gap to the next group, and so you know, 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:59.320 you look at some of those returns, I think that 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.640 there was some plays that were in between you know 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:06.560 that that existed in other organizations that we weren't able 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:10.160 to provide, So you were forced into topper end guys. 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:13.560 So yeah, it was kind of just a victim of 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.720 how we're set up right now. In the future, who 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:19.400 knows how we would play that out. But based on 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.480 what we've been able to accomplish right now, where were 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:25.320 things are, you know, where we feel like things are going, 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:28.960 it just felt like it was it was the right move. 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:32.320 Now that the trade deadline is over, Chris gets his 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:36.080 belief in his team continues to grow, especially with what 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:38.960 the White Sox have accomplished in their past two series 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.920 against the Yankees and Rays, and what lies in front 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:45.320 of them this week against the Red Sox and Guardians. 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:50.360 You know, they compete, you know, against anyone obviously, you know, 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:52.200 you look at what we did with the Yankees those 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:54.480 final two games and taking two out of three. The 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:59.840 Tampa Bay Rays. You know, still like objectively when you 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:01.520 line up with some of these clubs and you look 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:03.760 at the names out of the other club versus our club. 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:06.560 You know, I'm sure there are people that you know, 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:10.640 might choose the other club versus us. But we go 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:12.320 out there and we're not scared of anyone. 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:13.240 We aren't. 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:18.320 We're not, so you know, I just you know, we've 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.320 accomplished a lot so far. I think we can do 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.640 even more. 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You need me injury law 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.800 made personal. That's ink in Law. 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:58.880 And now continuing the conversation with me on the White 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:03.800 SOX twenty twenty trade deadline activity is SOX Machines Managing 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:08.440 editor Jim Margolis and beat reporter James Vegan And hello gents, 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:14.040 what's a busy last four days for us at a 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:17.880 Sox Machine. I Chris Gets I think said it perfectly 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:19.959 like for him it feels like he just played a 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:22.760 day night doubleheader, and I kind of feel the same 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:27.600 way as well. Just a NonStop content creation, either the 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:30.040 podcast front and all the columns that we've been writing 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:35.199 on soxmachine dot com. So let's give our first impressions 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:38.960 our instant reaction to the White Sox trade deadline. I'll 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.240 start with you, James, what's the first thing that you 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:44.040 think of when it comes to the White Sox trade activity? 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:47.440 The first thing I think of. 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:51.920 For the person says the day night doubleheader and did 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:54.560 a trade at one thirty in the morning while I 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:56.800 was trying to get three hours of sleep from my 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:57.720 rescheduled flight. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:01.160 What the first thing I thought? 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:10.000 They like, there was points like like a week out 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:13.320 where I'm just like trying like talking to people and like, hey, 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:16.679 is this like a fair assessment of what you want? 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:21.720 Starter pitch starting pitcher preferably is control leverage arm catcher, 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:25.760 And they're like, yes, you're on it. They got starting 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:30.200 pitcher leverage, really farm starting pictures control and a catcher 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:32.880 and you know you've framed it at the time like 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:34.600 a catcher who was really just holding you over until 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:35.880 Kyle teals thumps back. 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:37.800 That's what they got. 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.360 And then they pursued this need that I didn't even 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:43.120 realize that they thought they needed in terms of Breton Doyle, 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:48.840 so like in terms of like objectives and knowing that 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:53.520 they are they had to be dragged into this is 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:55.920 some bit like obviously this is from June. They were 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.040 kind of changing their tune in terms of, you know, 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.000 we have to treat this, you know team with respec 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.720 back like their contending team. They came to this point, 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:06.800 you know, three games out in front biggest divisionally in 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:10.800 the AL is you know my uh one esteemed voice 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:17.560 and the socks of media spear. Let me know, it's 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.520 so I think Chris gets even like elucidated, like a 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:24.360 further point of like maybe even like a self particular system. 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:26.439 Was what he said is like, we have our top 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:28.480 hundred guys that we could get big pieces with that 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:30.760 we don't really want to touch, and then we have 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:32.920 like you know what they traded, which was the tier 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:39.160 of like Gabe Davis, Boston Smith, Mason Adams and feeling 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.040 like they were a little light in terms of like 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:44.280 the territory between that that might have helped them land 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.720 some other you know pieces or maybe you know, makes 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.840 a rental deal happen, and feeling like they had to 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.280 because they didn't want to use the big pieces. They 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:56.040 kind of had to scrap together with that more like 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:00.320 middle tier guys who were in the teens of like 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:06.400 an average system's prospect list, And because of that, everything's 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:07.440 like a little. 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:09.600 There's like a little. 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.559 Qualifire, and that's true for every player, but like it's 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:15.240 a Luis Castillo, this guy is awesome, three time all starts. 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:16.880 In the press release, he's having the career where a 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.880 season you're kind of gidding him because you're taking on 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:23.960 a contract of the Mariners. Clearly see his onerous for 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.720 someone who's trying to make you better right away, you 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:28.040 kind of have to fix it or at least get 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:28.560 it on track. 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:29.640 I know they. 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:31.240 Downplay the idea of like, oh, we need to overhaul 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:34.000 his arsenal for him to be good again, but like 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.480 that's got to be part of it, right, Like there 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:38.280 are a lot of indicators that this like isn't the 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:41.760 best he's looked the worst he's looked Somewhat some people 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.839 are saying bart is clearly a backup, like this is 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:46.880 someone who hasn't really been like a full time you know, 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:51.440 starting catcher for a contending team recently or you know, 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.400 arguably for a long period of time. Like that said, 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:56.880 it was was paired off a pretty optimistic projection for 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.960 Kyle Tealem saying he could be back by September first, 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:03.160 or at least early next month. So that even maybe 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:08.640 drills down further upon like why you don't get much 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.160 more than like someone who's a good backup in that time? 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:14.280 And also we can't really hold like why didn't you 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:17.440 pay this for Tyler Stevenson when Tyler Stevens doesn't move 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:20.560 and the Reds don't trade him or Brady Singer, And 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:22.520 generally it's like what were those were your guys doing? 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:24.440 Rather than what were the White Sox not doing? 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:25.160 To get it? 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.680 And uh, even even Bronzebino, I think is the most objective, like, hey, 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:32.120 here's a reliever who's pitching good right now. You can 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:35.640 throw him in a leverage mix that's almost a straightforward 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.000 like that's all you're looking for when we trade a reliever. 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:40.200 But it's like, oh, he's got years of control. Oh 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.200 he'll probably be forty by the time he gets free 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:45.160 agency because of his journey, Like there's just a little thing. 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:51.520 And then Brenton Doyle, like, you know, he's obviously it's 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:54.440 a reclamation project and maybe not reclamations the right word. 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.360 They use it like they have hitting tweaks that they 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:59.200 already have in mind with him, and that's great, and 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:01.520 obviously that's a st regular season is how many guys 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.520 they've been able to fix offensively, But that's part of 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:07.000 what's coming in as a guy who's one just not 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.520 hitting well the season because he's been injured, it didn't 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:11.920 hit well last year. But also you're kind of thanking 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.440 on him coming in and you're literally, you know, Tafane 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:16.720 Evers prayer, so you're kind of saying, like, we think 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.160 can be better than him, and you know, kind of 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:20.880 sounds like they're counting on going to be better than Austin 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.960 Hayes because that's an option that's you know, pressing on 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:25.760 them and they don't really have an answer for how 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:27.920 that's going to fit in and it's not clear how 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:33.680 it would. So it's it's all these like I need 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:35.760 to like we need to like put some sort of 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.640 governor like limit on Simpson's references here. But it's like 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:42.120 a lot of slightly burnt like series Active Where coming 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:45.400 in where you know what time and how burn like 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:47.960 it's available now and we'll see how out burn it 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.440 is as time where is on. So it's like, yeah, 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:54.360 you did everything you need to do. You were shopping 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:57.600 kind of in the discount aisle and shopping well in 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:00.000 discount isle is obviously the story your season is something 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:05.960 like Hellttle Miguel Vargus, but it's it's not like, hey, 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.560 we're serious, like where the Yankees and died. It's not 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.040 how those teams are moving necessarily in terms of like 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:15.520 how much they're kind of banking on the rebounds coming 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:17.080 as these guys get in the house. 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:21.080 Well, that was a very detailed instant reaction to the 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.480 White Sox trade deadline. So, Jim, I'm not sure how 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:25.000 you want to follow that up, but what was your 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:26.200 first impression. 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:28.880 After the You feel like it's really a lot. 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.720 Hey, I could stop there if you want to conserve 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:36.960 the airtime, but I would say, they passed the twenty 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:40.160 twenty test, as we talked about in terms of they 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:43.880 had needs and they acknowledged them and they did something 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:46.800 for them, unlike in twenty twenty when they just got 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:50.560 draw Dyson and that was it. Even though everybody could 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.320 kind of see if the pitching was falling apart, there 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:57.080 wasn't any level of Now they're even like getting Brenton Doyle, 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:01.240 which is a little bit weird in terms of they 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:04.119 had a Brenton Doyle and the roster previously and Derek Hill. 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:07.160 They kind of had one in Everson Pereira. They kind 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.680 of well, they don't have Austin Hayes, not Brenton Doyle 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.359 in terms of playing center, but just they have a 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.760 lot of right handed outfielders and to add another one 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:19.760 when that wasn't necessarily in the cards because they have 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:24.760 so many right handed outfielders of precarious situations, be it 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.520 a lack of options, be it service time, being able 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:31.160 to reject assignments that you didn't know exactly what they're 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:33.360 going to do with them, and then Brenton Doyle shows up. 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.359 But it was an acknowledgement that, hey, Tristan Peters is 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:41.520 really scuffling. It's been a minor miracle what they've gotten 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.879 from him so far. The fact that he's an All 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:47.479 Star looks, you know, it was incredibly unlikely. It might 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:49.560 be one of those things that after the season, depending 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:51.639 on how the rest of his second half goes, you 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.360 might think, like, how did that ever happen? They might 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:58.719 have to explain to future generations. But they acknowledged it 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:00.560 by saying, Hey, this guy might be he's struggling a 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:02.960 little bit. He might be biting off finally more than 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.480 he can chew. So we got to give him some help. 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.119 And we don't trust Everson Prayer enough to cover center 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.920 field the way we're asking Tristan Peters to cover center field. 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:14.560 So with that in mind, they did acknowledge all of 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:20.320 those deficits and did something to help. I will say that, 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:23.000 you know, to to James's point about like the prospect 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:25.560 here that they couldn't deal from, I think it's another 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:29.800 example of just not having an up and running international 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:34.360 arm Yet they've made improvements, or they've changed leadership, they're 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:37.840 gonna get a new facility. It's a long process, you know, 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:39.800 takes what five to seven years or something like that. 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.560 From you know, I think David Keller taking over to 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.639 finally seeing results. But we've seen this before, you know, 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:49.040 whether it's the how within the prospect lists are, how 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:53.440 the White Sox aren't able to supply reinforcements to their 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:55.720 own roster or trade guys away, the way the Padres 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:59.399 are able to just make six trades a deadline and 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:01.359 seven more in the off season with just how many 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:07.600 interesting young talent, uh you know they have at premium positions, 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:12.199 uh and pitching. So I think it's another example of 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:14.760 missing that, missing that Jefferson Rojas type of just you know, 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:18.600 they've done well enough with the draft. Uh, they've done 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:23.080 wealth recolimation projects, but not having that wing where like 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:25.120 a third or more of your talent supposed to come 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:29.160 from just kind of ignoring it and barely getting any 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:32.080 kind of guys that surface to the majors. And if 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:35.240 they do surface, like Lenine Sosa, who is you know, 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:39.679 has some talent but is limited, it just limits what 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:44.320 they can do with either acquiring players or supplying their own. 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:47.440 So they had to work around it, and they did 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:50.920 work around it. Yeah, I was thinking like outlet mall, 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:53.440 like a kind of a shopping spree where you know, 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:58.000 everything's just not quite right to some regard, but. 0:19:59.440 --> 0:19:59.879 They didn't. 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:03.080 I don't think they overpaid for it. He maybe Castillo, 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:05.360 I guess we'll get to him, you know, individually might 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:07.120 be the one where I think they might have paid 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:09.639 too much just in terms of the obligation they're taking on. 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:13.919 But I think they paid appropriate prices otherwise for players 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:16.400 who might be able to help, and if they don't help, 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:20.760 at least after the season, whatever happens, GETS can say 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:23.439 I tried something. You know, maybe I could have been 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:26.679 a little bit bolder, but also I didn't ignore it, 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:28.840 and hope things get better and just cross my fingers 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:31.240 that luck would curious in the postseason and then I 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:33.320 could get away with just you know, having all the 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:36.359 prospects I had and not having to make a choice. 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.400 Well, the first part of this show we heard from 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:43.560 Chris Gatz. I would kind of describe it as exhausted enthusiasm, 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:47.879 as he's very tired working the phones and working the 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:50.560 text messages. And I don't even know if gms email 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:52.600 each other. But I agree with you guys that as 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:55.280 far as the White Sox shopping list, they checked off 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:58.320 every item. It's just that other teams the American League. 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:01.960 I like the move by Tampa Bay Liam Hicks. Boston 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:06.600 really believes after sweeping the Los Angeles Dodgers in LA 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:10.159 to go get Attalie Rushman. That's a huge move for 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:14.000 Boston's perspective. I'm not sure how much the New York 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:17.280 Yankees have improved. I'm not sure that the Houston Astros. 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:20.639 They got Dalton varshow, but their farm system is pretty 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:23.000 much depleted. That's as best as they could do, and 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:25.639 they had as trade one of their starting pitchers. But 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:28.399 I feel like for White Sox fans after the deadline, 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:36.200 there is room for wanting more from this deadline, especially 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:40.600 with what Cleveland did, and with Cleveland getting Foster Griffin 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:46.240 and Joe Adell and Nathaniel Lowe, that is going to 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:48.560 put some pressure on the White Sox. So this upcoming 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:52.760 weekend at home, that just increases the importance of that 0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:55.920 series between the White Sox and Guardians. Is the White 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:58.919 Sox still have the series lead. They have four wins 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:02.359 while the Guardians have so that's heighbreaker could really come 0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:05.679 important for the White Sox. But Chris Getz still believes 0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:08.800 with the team that he's got And to your point, Jim, 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:12.440 it's not twenty twenty. 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